Pentagon delays security handover in Iraq.
By on Sep 20th, 2007 at 3:39 pm
Pentagon delays security handover in Iraq.
For the second time this year, “the target date for putting Iraqi authorities in charge of security in all 18 provinces has slipped yet again, to at least next July.” The delay highlights “the difficulties in developing Iraqi police forces and the slow pace of economic and political progress.”
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September 20th, 2007 at 3:41 pmAnd it’s going to keep “slipping”, folks.
Remember the administration’s real object: the establishment of a permanent military foothold in the M.E..
September 20th, 2007 at 3:44 pmIs this part of the “success” this crappy administration and the rest of the horseshit GOP is gloating about ?
September 20th, 2007 at 3:47 pmPentagon:
September 20th, 2007 at 3:50 pm“Oops, we slipped again, another bombed pipeline spilling that greasy black stuff we don’t know anything about.”
“Progress”?
September 20th, 2007 at 3:50 pmWTF?
How do you spell P E R M A N E N T O C C U P A T I O N ???
“Thus far seven of the 18 provinces have reverted to Iraqi control.â€
TP would like you to believe there is no progress at all.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — September 20, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
2 target dates in this calendar year being pushed back to now a date in July of NEXT YEAR is not ‘progress’ , you ignorant Chimpy stooge……………..
September 20th, 2007 at 3:51 pm“Thus far seven of the 18 provinces have reverted to Iraqi control.â€
TP would like you to believe there is no progress at all.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — September 20, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
When does self-deception end and a sense of personal shame begin for supporters of this misbegotten war?
September 20th, 2007 at 3:52 pmLast year, the relatively peaceful southern provinces of Muthanna, Dhi Qar and Najaf were returned to Iraqi security control. In April, Maysan province in the southeast was the fourth to convert.
In May the Kurdish regional government assumed security responsibility for the three provinces that make up the largely peaceful Kurdish region of northern Iraq: Dahuk, Irbil and Sulaimaniyah.
Seven of the relatively Shiite and Kurdish provinces, yes.
But the article continues….
An independent commission that examined the issue of provincial Iraqi control in recent months concluded in a report to Congress on Sept. 4 that the process is too convoluted and an impediment to the overall U.S. goals of speeding the transition to Iraqi control and supporting sovereignty.
“Our current policy of determining when a province may or may not be controlled by its own government reinforces the popular perception of the (U.S.-led) coalition as an occupation force,” according to the commission, headed by retired Marine Gen. James Jones. “This may contribute to increased violence and instability.”
The commission recommended that all 18 provinces return to Iraqi control immediately. U.S. forces would continue to operate in the areas they are now, in coordination with Iraqi authorities; Iraqi control would mean U.S. troops could transition to less combat-intense roles.
P E R M A N E N T O C C U P A T I O N
September 20th, 2007 at 3:54 pmSo the flowers and chocolates are another Freidman unit away. Color me shocked.
September 20th, 2007 at 3:55 pm“Thus far seven of the 18 provinces have reverted to Iraqi control.â€
TP would like you to believe there is no progress at all.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — September 20, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
So after 4 years we are not quite halfway there. Why hasn’t Bush proposed the long term spending for this then? Why hasn’t he asked for the Trillions it’s going to take to correct his f#ck ups?
September 20th, 2007 at 4:00 pmQuote Of The Day
By Greg Sargent – September 20, 2007, 3:16PM
“It is a sad day in the Senate when we spend hours debating an ad while our young people are dying in Iraq. Now that the Senate has twice voted on this ad, it is time to move on and vote to end the war.”
– Chris Dodd, in a statement on the Senate’s votes today on whether to condemn MoveOn (Via Atrios).
September 20th, 2007 at 4:00 pmThe seven provinces which have “reverted” to Iraqi control is similar to the current Afghani situation, warlords and robber-barons making their own deals on the side with the oil companies and ethnic tribes.
Iraqi control is an oxymoron, the same as the control the Kabul government has in Afghanistan. It stops at the city limits.
September 20th, 2007 at 4:01 pmGood Lord — why do we even PRETEND we have a date?
September 20th, 2007 at 4:09 pmIf you have been around alot of Middle Easterns you would know that most of them are easily corrupted, hold loyality to their clan and just in general cannot be trusted. So what if 18 provinces have Iraqi control, that just means that one side of their Warlords has control.
Buck Fush
September 20th, 2007 at 4:12 pm“Progress�
WTF?
How do you spell P E R M A N E N T O C C U P A T I O N ???
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Comment by RUCerious
You mean like Korea, Germany etc…
Comment by ron — September 20, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
No , they don’t
Korea was part of the “Korean War”
Germany was part of “WORLD WAR II”
There is no such amendment as the “Iraq War”.
Shut up already , you Chimpy backing moron…….
September 20th, 2007 at 4:14 pm“Our current policy of determining when a province may or may not be controlled by its own government reinforces the popular perception of the (U.S.-led) coalition as an occupation force,” according to the commission, headed by retired Marine Gen. James Jones. “This may contribute to increased violence and instability.”
Well, duh! Who in the hell are we telling the Iraqi’s how to govern their country. 70% of the Iraqi people want us to get the hell out of their country. So, trolls, why should we not listen to what the Iraqi people want. Who are we to tell them that they can’t govern their country.
September 20th, 2007 at 4:18 pm“7 out of 18 Iraqi provinces have reverted to Iraqi control.”
And how was this done? By either killing or forcing out any and all opposition to the provincial leadership. I thought democracy was supposed to be about working with your opposition, not killing them.
That’s progress?
September 20th, 2007 at 4:20 pm*
OT – but, what does this mean? … anything?
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September 20th, 2007 at 4:20 pmhttp://www.ameinfo.com/132690.html
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You mean like Korea, Germany etc…
Comment by ron
Are you saying that we are occupying Germany and Korea. What grade did you make it to before you dropped out of school? We have a military force in those two countries at the invitation of their government. We are not telling them how to run their country and we are not trying to steal their natural resources. They want us there. The people of Iraq (70% to be exact) do not want us in their country.
September 20th, 2007 at 4:23 pmWhen does self-deception end and a sense of personal shame begin for supporters of this misbegotten war?
Comment by VerbalKint — September 20, 2007 @ 3:52 pm
the one – personal shame – will not allow
September 20th, 2007 at 4:24 pmthe end of the other – self-deception…
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the one – personal shame – will not allow
the end of the other – self-deception…
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Comment by katy — September 20, 2007 @ 4:24 pm
Oooo… look at Ms Smartypants…:-D!
September 20th, 2007 at 4:28 pmMakes since because Iraq troops told the truth about Blackwater murdering innocent Iraqi people. Bush/Cheney are showing the Middle East that PM Maliki doesn’t run Iraq the White House does. Until Iraq and Iran turn over the oil rights the US killer contractors will continue to kill Iraqis that wont their country back. Pat Tillman was murdered by White House contractors. Americans support the White House actions and so does the GOP. Good Religious values of sending killers to invade a country to steal. The GOP and White House aren’t concerned that 3 more soldiers died today or that innocent soldiers who followed orders and trained to torture prisoners by hired contract killers.
If Americans don’t believe our country is run by a mad man, Bush today said Saddam killed Nelson Mandela.
September 20th, 2007 at 4:50 pmComment by CaptainMantastic — September 20, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
So, Captain… **cough… cough**… how will this MAJOR domestic terrorism take place? Hoards of crazed Al Qaida soldiers paddling across the ocean in little rubber boats? Or will they conquer Mexico first, then stream across the border by the thousand? Or perhaps Canada?
I notice the good Captain … **cough… cough**… keeps slipping the word “appeasement” into his posts, just like another troll did earlier. Seems to be the GOOPer “buzz word” of the day.
September 20th, 2007 at 4:51 pmMaybe it will inspire them to stand and renounce the intolerance and hate that Islamic fundamentalists spread to the detriment of all Muslims.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — September 20, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
It’s not Islamic fundamentalists who spread hate. An Islamic fundamentalist is merely a Muslim who adheres to the fundamentals of the religion (and these fundamentals do NOT include acts of terrorism, by the way). The fundamentals include believe in the one God (Allah to them, Jehovah or Yahweh to Jews and Christians), prayer five times a day, acts of charity, fasting during Ramadan, and a pilgrimage to Mecca during one’s lifetime.
The fanatics who have perverted Islam into some bizarre twisted version of how they think the world should be, and are willing to use extreme violence to achieve their goals are NOT fundamentalists. You can call them terrorists if you like, extremists perhaps, or maybe even dangerous nut cases.
If you insist on presenting your paranoia of how terrorists will be walking down our streets if we leave Iraq, at least get your terminology right.
September 20th, 2007 at 4:53 pmShrub just asked for 6 more months as that is what will make things go good. 1. October, 2. Nov, 3. Dec….6. March !
And they won’t be ready for security till July – Already the 6 months is slipping.
September 20th, 2007 at 5:03 pmSo we should blow up most of Texas or Oklahoma, and kill and/or displace 40% of the population there because of Christian “fundamentalists” and extremists who blow up federal buildings and abortion clinics?
September 20th, 2007 at 5:11 pmMagical flying carpets like in Aladdin.
;-)
September 20th, 2007 at 5:12 pmComment by katy @ 4:24 pm
Oooo… look at Ms Smartypants…:-D!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity @ 4:28 pm
hey! :-P
was i wrong???
September 20th, 2007 at 5:26 pmGee, just when we were making so much progress (snark)
September 20th, 2007 at 6:53 pmSo we should blow up most of Texas or Oklahoma, and kill and/or displace 40% of the population there because of Christian “fundamentalists†and extremists who blow up federal buildings and abortion clinics?
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Comment by wiseass.org — September 20, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
Might actually be a big improvement…we could stop the onslaught of the christo-fascists there before they show up at our doorsteps terrorizing the neighborhood. Plus I heard Texas and Oklahoma have oil enough to pay for the whole operation. Operation Okie Freedom.
September 20th, 2007 at 8:32 pm> My argument is that our offensive
> posture in the middle
> east is the only
> thing inhibiting the progress
> of jihadists from focusing resources
> on operations in the U.S.
another moron rears his head. exactly where, in the middle east, other than iraq, are we in an “offensive posture”?
exactly where in the middle east, other than iraq, are we disrupting anything?
your telling me the jihadis where in iraq BEFORE we invaded? if not, they went there willingly later… not exactly “pinned down”….do you really think the borders arent porus enough that they couldnt get out if they wanted to?
they’re staying there because we’re giving them training and target practice with our prescense.
and I love your article with, unsurprisingly, no links….. “al-queda has nuclear weapons”… if they really had these, why havent we found a single one? all our intelligence, all our special operations, all our military, cant even find ONE?
and why hasnt the “we know where saddam’s WMD are” crowd been talking about this?
why hasnt bush or cheney brought up the fact they have them?
they sure wernt shy about bringing up the fact that saddam had nuclear capability (even though he did it). yet im never heard either of them utter that phrase abotu al-queda currently possesing them.
you think these folks with questionable motives who you cite in the article know something bush and cheney dont?
it takes complex labratory equipment to even maintain this stuff.. why havent we found ANY of it? anywhere? and I guess since these weapons go bad in about a decade without knowledgeable maintence, they should be going off pretty soon, like your article says, right?
and i love it how NONE of these guys who claim al-queda has nukes dare speculate about what a country they are hidden away in….. a cave somewhere?
hahahah.
your even more of a paranoid idiot than your masters.
no country is going to sell world ending technology to apoclyptic religious fanatics. even if they would, tranporting and deploying it would be a logisitcal nightmare. how many planes does al-queda have access to again? remind me… they had to borrow a few of ours just to kill a measly 3000 people…. less than die on americans highways each month…
September 21st, 2007 at 12:57 amoh wait.. my bad.. rereading the article, the nukes are actually currently buried in the united states, according to Captain Masterbatastic.
Nice article by a bunch of anti-arab nutballs..
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=91634
supposedly, this same nutball he cites was predicting an imminent nuclear attack last year, also
Sept 2006 Next Attack Imminent:
Muslims ordered to leave the United States
By Paul L. Williams & David Dastych
“..The al Qaeda operatives who will launch this attack are awaiting final orders….”
well thank god we’ve got all the phone lines to the middle east besieged so they cant call in and give the order.. hahahaha
“… The American people will be treated to a final audio message from Osama bin Laden which will be aired within the next two weeks…”
guess he was a little late with that “final message”, huh?
writing from the same anti-arab nutball captain Masterbatastic cites..
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49950
“Mir said that he met with an Egyptian engineer last week who lost an eye after one of bin Laden’s nuclear tests in the Kunar province of Pakistan. ”
hahahaah. he talked to someone who “Lost an eye” in a nuclear test? funny, I didnt know nuclear tests could poke out peoples eyes. explain to me, how exactly does one lost a single eye in a nuclear test
look at banner on the side of the website giving this guy airtime.. site sponsored by “zion oil”… no joke..
I think that speaks for itself…
you crack me up which troll are you Captain? citing people who “lost an eye in a nuclear test…. hahahahaha… wow..thats about as riduclous as muckdog quoting the guy who said cigarettes were good for you and that asbestos would have saved the world trade center…
are you muckdog…?
September 21st, 2007 at 1:20 amanother moron rears his head. exactly where, in the middle east, other than iraq, are we in an “offensive posture�
exactly where in the middle east, other than iraq, are we disrupting anything?
A lot of people in Palestine and Lebanon consider our posturing for Israel over the past 40 years pretty offensive – does that count?
September 21st, 2007 at 6:46 am>Well, if you would support tapping
> jihadist phone calls into the U.S.
Who says its only jihadists we’re tapping? the same people who told us “we know where the weapons are”?
How many years before you look like an ass when none of the buried nukes in americ goes off?
September 22nd, 2007 at 2:56 am