Bush flip-flops on Iraq Study Group.
Bush flip-flops on Iraq Study Group.
President Bush on the future of Iraq, 5/24/07:
[Bush] talked about a transition to “a different configuration” in Iraq after the surge of U.S. troops is completed this summer. When pressed on whether he was talking about a post-surge Plan B, Bush answered: “Actually, I would call that a plan recommended by Baker-Hamilton, so that would be a Plan B-H.” […]
Yes, that same Baker-Hamilton plan now seems to be official White House policy.
President Bush on the future of Iraq, 9/19/07:
In an interview with a group of columnists that I attended Wednesday, [Bush] dismissed the notion of establishing the 2006 recommendations of the Iraq Study Group as official U.S. policy. […]
“My attitude is, I accept what [U.S. Iraq commander] Gen. [David] Petraeus recommended, not what they recommend,” he said, referring to Members of Congress pushing the ISG approach, which includes moving U.S. troops from a combat role to one of “overwatch.”
(HT: Atrios)
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September 21st, 2007 at 5:44 pmTP, it would be really helpful if you could find links that didn’t require a subscription. These Roll Call links are particularly irritating . . . although this possibly spared me having to read something by Morton Kondracke.
September 21st, 2007 at 5:46 pmIf ANYONE still listens to this A$$wipe, please let me know! His cred meter has just pegged out at the bottom of the dial.
September 21st, 2007 at 5:47 pmits like watching a fish on the dock….flip….flop….flip…flop…googley eyed plea for help….flip….flop…
September 21st, 2007 at 5:49 pmLet’s be frank. These aren’t flip flops. They’re lies. Next week it will be something else to keep everyone off-balance.
September 21st, 2007 at 5:51 pmKen Salazar thinks the ISG recommendations are good!
September 21st, 2007 at 5:52 pm-Colin Powell
September 21st, 2007 at 5:52 pmLet’s be frank. These aren’t flip flops. They’re lies. Next week it will be something else to keep everyone off-balance.
Comment by Candyce — September 21, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
look candyce, stop taking my ice cream away when im still enjoying it
September 21st, 2007 at 5:52 pmYes. I can give you a lesson on Jeffersonian democracy that will bring tears to your eyes, but when I was doing business as the secretary of state, the word I used was reform, less so than democracy. When I dealt with the Arab world, we had several conferences on reform. The word democracy frightened them. As a Saudi leader said to me, “Colin, please, give us a break. Do you really want to see Jeffersonian democracy in Saudi Arabia? Do you know what would happen? Fundamentalists would win, and there wouldn’t be any more elections.†President Hosni Mubarak in Egypt would say the same thing. They all were saying, “Take a look at our history and where we are. You can talk to us about reform, but don’t tell us to become Jeffersonian democracies tomorrow. It’s not possible.â€
-Colin Powell
Comment by Xisithrus — September 21, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
too bad power didnt have a meat cleaver to open bushes head and dump tha tinfo in - sad. really.
September 21st, 2007 at 5:53 pmsorry, powell*
September 21st, 2007 at 5:54 pmOur Preznit cannot remember what he thought a few minutes ago, let alone what he said or thought a few months ago. We expect too much of this burn out………….
September 21st, 2007 at 5:56 pmComment by IALib — September 21, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
The past several weeks DUbya has looked like a person mailing it in. He has no fire, no comprehension and no short term (or long term) memory.
Either he has given up and/or is on SERIOUS meds.
September 21st, 2007 at 5:59 pmBush, as Sydney Greenstreet in “The Maltese Falcon,” has set up Petraeus to be Elisha Cook Jr.
September 21st, 2007 at 6:01 pmLet’s be frank. These aren’t flip flops. They’re lies. Next week it will be something else to keep everyone off-balance.
Comment by Candyce
Candyce is wise, and quite correct. Bush is simply going to tell us anything and everything until he leaves office. Leaving the huge mess for somebody else to clean up - ya know, sorta like his life history so far. I really feel sorry for the last 26%r’s. They keep on wanting a king, and Bush keeps on looking like the class clown.
September 21st, 2007 at 6:03 pmlook candyce, stop taking my ice cream away when im still enjoying it
Comment by bob h — September 21, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
heh, sorry, bob! Here - have some of mine.
September 21st, 2007 at 6:05 pmHe’ll say what ever he can to drag this thing out for the next couple of presidents to fix. Then he can hide out in South Amercia at his ranch with the Billions he turned into gold or Euro’s because the USA will be in Depression 2.0. Of course there will be the World Criminal Courts trying to snatch him up also. He probably has that ranch well guarded.
Buck Fush
September 21st, 2007 at 6:05 pmGeorge:
“…so that would be a Plan B-H.â€
“…so that would be a Plan B-S.”
Fixed it for ya, cowboy.
September 21st, 2007 at 6:06 pm(Don’t mention it…)
Mostly want Bush wants to do is run out the clock long enough to get out of office. For once his daddy’s pals weren’t able to fix the problem for him, and he has no idea what to do. So like a stubborn drunk, he sticks to one course of action.
September 21st, 2007 at 6:07 pmI’m reminded of Abraham Lincoln’s riddle:
September 21st, 2007 at 6:09 pmIf you call a dog’s tail a leg….how many legs does the dog have??”
The answer of course is FOUR…because calling a dog’s tail a leg doesn’t MAKE IT a leg.
Bush is making it up as he is forced to deal with the REALITIES of Iraq. Whatever twisted narative he comes up with…It will be called the Path to Victory.
Of course there will be the World Criminal Courts trying to snatch him up also. He probably has that ranch well guarded.
Buck Fush
And Paraguay has no extradition treaty with the US, so he may be out of reach when the reality of his criminal enterprise becomes more apparent.
September 21st, 2007 at 6:09 pmWhat’s wrong with getting up-to-speed?
Comment by CT is the Dean — September 21, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
I don’t know. Why don’t you give it a try?
September 21st, 2007 at 6:12 pmComment by CT is the Dean — September 21, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
You’ve dot dumb to spare don’t ya. Did you read the ISG?
September 21st, 2007 at 6:14 pmThe president has selected General Petraeus’ current judgment over those year-and-a-half-old lecture notes. What’s wrong with getting up-to-speed?
Comment by CT
Backing a mouthpiece in uniform over several seasoned diplomats is just what Bush would do. Bush has flip flopped for so many FU’s, he needs a roadmap to find the bathroom.
It is amazing that some folks do not value the vast education and knowledge the ISG group participants bring to the table. Certainly, if the ISG supported Bush’s strategy, they would be hailed as wise men. Since they didn’t blindly support his strategy, the right thinks they are unAmerican shills for the defeatocrats. In Bush’s world the wrong comment takes you from a hero to a zero very quickly.
September 21st, 2007 at 6:18 pmThe ISG was papa Bush’s gift to his son. It would have allowed George W. to climb out of the Iraqi Qaugmire, and make Iraq a bi-partisan effort. Bush rejected the ISG, and now he and his Republican enablers OWN the War. That’s their position for November 2008.
September 21st, 2007 at 6:26 pmISG’s book is out of date. The complexities of war change rapidly.
Comment by CT is the Dean
One man, and his many sycophants, are destroying this country. I would rather consider the varied and valued remarks of several statemen over the uninspired and lazy neocon views of Cheney’s adminstration. We revolted against the king in the past, and maybe it is about time real Americans start to think abot the boy king squatting in our White House. Also your post was incorrect: The complexities of a failed invasion for oil change rapidly. The wrong people invaded the wrong country for all of the wrong reasons - and you still support this imbecile? History will frown on those who worship a king, rather than the constitution. Which side are you?
September 21st, 2007 at 6:30 pmKing or country?
I’d settle for an explaination on why the ISG is out of date.
September 21st, 2007 at 6:33 pmI’d settle for an explaination on why the ISG is out of date.
Comment by hellinabucket
You will not get one from CT. He finds it difficult to breath with his nose shoved up Bush’s backside. Quite a view, huh?
September 21st, 2007 at 6:35 pmSo Bush is either so insane that he can’t remember what he said and what his own position is, or he’s the biggest fricken liar/used car salesman ever.
September 21st, 2007 at 6:38 pmFormer B-52 fleet commander leading probe of nuclear missile incident
Created: September 20, 2007 06:04 PM Modified: September 21, 2007 10:43 AM
U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates has asked a retired general who once commanded the nation’s fleet of B-52s to lead an outside inquiry into how one of the bombers was mistakenly armed with nuclear weapons at a base in North Dakota and flown to Barksdale Air Force Base.
The Air Force began investigating the episode three weeks ago but Gates wants an outside inquiry, led by former Air Force Chief of Staff Larry Welch.
September 21st, 2007 at 6:41 pm[…]
http://www.ktbs.com/ news/ Former-B-52-fleet-commander-leading-probe-of-nuclear-missile-incident-5123/
Comment by katy — September 21, 2007 @ 6:41 pm
This is like having Laura critiquing Dubya’s speeches and blaming Barney for all the f@ckups.
And I bet at least one 2nd Loot and an Airman1Class will be severely punished too!
September 21st, 2007 at 6:56 pmISG’s book is out of date. The complexities of war change rapidly.
Comment by CT is the Dean
Then why is Bush following it now, since it is out of date?
September 21st, 2007 at 6:58 pmPlease explain your reasoning or lack of, that caused you to come to this conclusion.
Reported, as it violated the TOS.
Comment by CT is the Dean — September 21, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
Better watch yourself closely then.
One libtard or other such namecalling slip from you and I personally report you, as well as a few others here I suspect.
September 21st, 2007 at 7:01 pmThis is like having Laura critiquing Dubya’s speeches and blaming Barney for all the f@ckups. […]
Comment by upside99 — September 21, 2007 @ 6:56 pm
i hear ya… but it’s SOMEthing…
anyone hear any more about the deaths of those airmen
who were related to that story, on leave, turned up dead?
not sure how much was urban myth… 2 i saw had actual news stories to go along with their “accidents”…
September 21st, 2007 at 7:06 pmfreaky…
.
I recognize that GWB is by no means an intelligent president,
Comment by CT is the Dean — September 21, 2007 @ 6:56 pm
You support a president you think is not intellegent. hahaha
You carry water for a baffoon who canot even put together a coherent sentence by himself.
“And so, in my State of the — my State of the Union — or state — my speech to the nation, whatever you want to call it, speech to the nation — I asked Americans to give 4,000 years — 4,000 hours over the next — the rest of your life — of service to America.â€
~ George W. Bush, Bridgeport, CT, 2002-09-04
You carry water for this guy.
September 21st, 2007 at 7:10 pmYou trust him to protect you from the terrorist when he cannot even secure our own borders.
Bwahahahahahahahahaha.
Unbelievable.
Awwww, wittle Dean got his undies in a bunch? You are so cute and cuddlie. Maybe you need a flea bath or something. Go fetch the stick.
Watch everything this “it” posts, report even the slightest infraction.
September 21st, 2007 at 7:17 pmReported, what a laugh riot…the monitors are gonna get a laugh out of that one.
September 21st, 2007 at 7:27 pmMost of what you post is offensive to intelligent people.
What did we, the taxpayers, pay for the Iraq Study Group? Remember back in Dec. 2006 (9 1/2 months ago) when Bush supported the findings of the ISG to great fanfare in the media?
One month later, he said f… y.. to the ISG and ordered the “surge.” Now, with the “surge” a failure and Gen. BetrayUs supporting Bush’s plans for 10 more years of War, Bush totally dismisses the ISG.
What did we, the taxpayers, pay for the Iraq Study Group?
September 21st, 2007 at 7:27 pm“… And no, you can’t quiz me on Clinton because I wasn’t into politics at all during those years. I do admit to slight bias in retropect, however, because my parents didn’t like him.
Comment by CT is the Dean
Thanks for confirming that you’re a political rookie. It makes it easier to discountyour ill-thought posts, knowing that you are a neophyte to the political arena and not too well schooled on what’s going on.
September 21st, 2007 at 7:50 pmAnd neither does yours.
September 21st, 2007 at 7:57 pmI couldn’t help that he was reelected in 2004, since I didn’t vote.
[…]I wasn’t into politics at all during those years. I do admit to slight bias in retropect, however, because my parents didn’t like him.
Comment by CT is the Dean — September 21, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
so totally not worth a diddly-damn, an admitted political idjit…
listen and learn, dean… otherwise, your uneducated, biased,
worthless, meaningless LIES are not welcome here…
you have a lot of nerve, trying to pass off your brand of guile…
but you’re still here… i’ll give you some credit…
September 21st, 2007 at 8:17 pmsome of this truth must be rubbing off on you…
listen and learn… we all are…
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There’s nothing admirable about Betrayus. He served up two cans of Fail with his previous assignments. That’s neatly glossed over.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:16 pmHe’s just another walking Peter Principle, happily failing upward, like Condimelda.
I’m no political rookie, not that your opinion matters.
If your knowledge of political history begins with Bush, you’re very much a rookie.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:28 pmGreetings OHC, long time no see.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:29 pmOh, my God!
Look at Post #1.
That’s what Valiant Venus stood for:
W!
Thanks, Xisithrus
September 21st, 2007 at 10:32 pmIt only gives the appearance of “flipflopping”; actually, he doesn’t have a clue as to what he is talking about. When his mouth opens, amazing drivel spew forth - contradictory type drivel at best, outright lies at worst. If you want to know if he is lying, just watch his mouth. If it’s open: he is!
September 21st, 2007 at 11:05 pmHey, barfly, thanks. I been lurking around.
September 22nd, 2007 at 12:52 amI recognize that GWB is by no means an intelligent president, but I will defend his decision
Comment by CT is the Dean — September 21, 2007 @ 6:56 pm
In the famous words of Obi-Wan Kenobi:
“Who’s the more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him?”
It would be funny, if it didn’t have such tragic consequences…
September 22nd, 2007 at 2:05 amCT, better mind your Ps and Qs. Oh, and if Mr. P comes on, he better too, assuming of course that he’s not you. One foul up, and that’ll be at LEAST two people who will click the report abuse flag on you.
Time to clean up your act, bub.
September 22nd, 2007 at 12:43 pmDubbie’s tell : The more he’s lying, the more polysyllabic words he tries to pack in to his statements/answers.
September 22nd, 2007 at 1:03 pm