Comments on: Did Conservative Reporter Conspire With Bush On Question Bashing Democrats? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:21:43 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-5/#comment-4087271 freeman Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:19:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4087271 GI Joe just wondering if you support an administration which can now arrest an American on secret charges ,if they bother charging you at all and trying you on secret evidence or perhaps evidence obtained through the use of torture . What is it your fighting for ,the glory of the fatherland ? Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with the attack on our shores and everything to do with control of world oil supplies .The trials at Nuremberg and our own code of military justice supply that it is the duty of a soldier to disobey a command if it is immoral and that committing an atrocity whether it was ordered or not is a crime ! The mission ? You are not responsible for the failures of American foreign policy but take off the rose colored glasses already ,the mission is naked aggression in violation of ALL of our basic values as a nation in violation of all our international agreements ,by people who are dismantling the constitution ! Our ground forces are stretched to the breaking point or so Colin Powell says and after hurricane Katrina we had a the Mexican army and Blackwater ,a mercenary army outside government control policing our streets . Who will defend the homeland and our legitimate interests abroad ,out of work pinochet army regulars and hired thugs ?The general who presented the neo con's sales pitch even admits he isn't sure this is making us any safer . We live as far as I know ,still ,in a democracy. If you don't like decent maybe your fighting for the wrong country ! This is America , we are the planet ,a nation of immigrants from all over the globe and we are not worth fighting for if we abandon our values as a nation . GI Joe
just wondering if you support an administration which can now arrest an American on secret charges ,if they bother charging you at all and trying you on secret evidence or perhaps evidence obtained through the use of torture . What is it your fighting for ,the glory of the fatherland ?
Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with the attack on our shores and everything to do with control of world oil supplies .The trials at Nuremberg and our own code of military justice supply that it is the duty of a soldier to disobey a command if it is immoral and that committing an atrocity whether it was ordered or not is a crime !
The mission ? You are not responsible for the failures of American foreign policy but take off the rose colored glasses already ,the mission is naked aggression in violation of ALL of our basic values as a nation in violation of all our international agreements ,by people who are dismantling the constitution !
Our ground forces are stretched to the breaking point or so Colin Powell says and after hurricane Katrina we had a the Mexican army and Blackwater ,a mercenary army outside government control policing our streets .
Who will defend the homeland and our legitimate interests abroad ,out of work pinochet army regulars and hired thugs ?The general who presented the neo con’s sales pitch even admits he isn’t sure this is making us any safer .
We live as far as I know ,still ,in a democracy. If you don’t like decent maybe your fighting for the wrong country ! This is America , we are the planet ,a nation of immigrants from all over the globe and we are not worth fighting for if we abandon our values as a nation .

]]> By: FunMe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-5/#comment-4087267 FunMe Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:17:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4087267 Who cares what that CLOWN bush says at the end. (What is this elementary school with this childish act?) Bottom line: way MORE people know who MoveOn.org is now. AND let's not forget, bush helped MoveOn.org raise over half a million $dollars! Who cares what that CLOWN bush says at the end. (What is this elementary school with this childish act?)

Bottom line: way MORE people know who MoveOn.org is now.

AND let’s not forget, bush helped MoveOn.org raise over half a million $dollars!

]]> By: Spudge Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-5/#comment-4087233 Spudge Boy Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:54:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4087233 "You attack one, you attack all. Comment by Johnny Swank — September 21, 2007 @ 4:24 pm" Since I am a vet that means you are attacking all vets. Don't you see how stupid your logic sounds? “You attack one, you attack all.
Comment by Johnny Swank — September 21, 2007 @ 4:24 pm”

Since I am a vet that means you are attacking all vets.

Don’t you see how stupid your logic sounds?

]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-5/#comment-4087221 freeman Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:48:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4087221 Hey swank thanx for admitting what everyone here and abroad already know .But wouldn't it be a good idea since the oil your prepared to kill innocents men women and children over , just like our enemies in the 2nd world war ,is going to run out in 20 years or so any way and is responsible for altering our climate and causing an extinction of unprecedented proportion against the fossil record to develop mass transit ,alternative energies ,and mandate decent fuel economies from our automakers . Ride a bicycle perhaps the fresh air will help you to think more clearly.Hitler and his bunch ,whom the world reviles were all of the same ilk and were only possible because people either ignored them and what was happening in their country or like yourself supported nationalism no matter how immoral and shortsided .The end of the second world war left many German cities over 90 % destroyed and in ruins . He who lives by the sword dies by the sword ! The vets who defended us against fascism would roll over in their graves to hear you say you condone such immoral behavior from a country which until recently was a shining beacon for all . Hey swank
thanx for admitting what everyone here and abroad already know .But wouldn’t it be a good idea since the oil your prepared to kill innocents men women and children over , just like our enemies in the 2nd world war ,is going to run out in 20 years or so any way and is responsible for altering our climate and causing an extinction of unprecedented proportion against the fossil record to develop mass transit ,alternative energies ,and mandate decent fuel economies from our automakers .
Ride a bicycle perhaps the fresh air will help you to think more clearly.Hitler and his bunch ,whom the world reviles were all of the same ilk and were only possible because people either ignored them and what was happening in their country or like yourself supported nationalism no matter how immoral and shortsided .The end of the second world war left many German cities over 90 % destroyed and in ruins .
He who lives by the sword dies by the sword ! The vets who defended us against fascism would roll over in their graves to hear you say you condone such immoral behavior from a country which until recently was a shining beacon for all .

]]> By: Luis M http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-5/#comment-4087219 Luis M Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:48:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4087219 <em>You attack one, you attack all. Comment by Johnny Swank — September 21, 2007 @ 4:24 pm</em> When a troop rapes and kills a 14 year old girl, ALL troops rape and kill a 14 year old? No, they don't. Can you criticize the rapist murdering soldier without criticizing ALL of the troops? Yes, you can. Get some perspective. Soldiers may be a team but they're also individual human beings who can (and sometimes do) fail. You attack one, you attack all.
Comment by Johnny Swank — September 21, 2007 @ 4:24 pm

When a troop rapes and kills a 14 year old girl, ALL troops rape and kill a 14 year old? No, they don’t.

Can you criticize the rapist murdering soldier without criticizing ALL of the troops? Yes, you can.

Get some perspective. Soldiers may be a team but they’re also individual human beings who can (and sometimes do) fail.

]]> By: Spudge Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-5/#comment-4087217 Spudge Boy Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:47:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4087217 "You must not have any friends with the amount of time you spend in here." Thanks for your concern, but I actually haven't been posting here or anywhere much for that matter. Moron. "The enlisted soldiers may not like commisioned soldiers, but they RESPECT them!!!" Wrong. You know nothing of the military. Join up dumb a$$. "A word in which your father must have forgotten to teach you." Respect is not something you get because you wear a particular rank on your collar. You earn it just like everybody else dumb sh!t. “You must not have any friends with the amount of time you spend in here.”

Thanks for your concern, but I actually haven’t been posting here or anywhere much for that matter. Moron.

“The enlisted soldiers may not like commisioned soldiers, but they RESPECT them!!!”

Wrong. You know nothing of the military. Join up dumb a$$.

“A word in which your father must have forgotten to teach you.”

Respect is not something you get because you wear a particular rank on your collar. You earn it just like everybody else dumb sh!t.

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-5/#comment-4087199 Leftside Annie Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:36:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4087199 And I, Lt. Col. Joe, am tired of people like you who drink the Kool-aid and presume to lecture me on your bullsh*t version of history. While I thank you for your service, I still think you're a dupe and I pity you for it. And I, Lt. Col. Joe, am tired of people like you who drink the Kool-aid and presume to lecture me on your bullsh*t version of history.

While I thank you for your service, I still think you’re a dupe and I pity you for it.

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-5/#comment-4087194 Leftside Annie Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:34:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4087194 So.... do tell us, *dear* Rogerx2 - and all the rest of you frothing rightwingers who are soooo very upset about the alleged slander of our troops by MoveOn ..... What do you think of Saxby Chambliss' campaign ad with regard to "slandering" one of our troops, former Senator Max Cleland, who lost both his legs and an arm in service to our country...? Remember that one? They morphed his face into Osama bin Laden's. (pretty slanderous, if you ask me!) Or perhaps you could expound - at length, PLEASE! - upon the Swift Boat liars who smeared John Kerry - another "troop" who served his country...? Let's hear about how those disgraceful individuals should be tarred and feathered and ridden out of America on a rail, maybe...? Or arrested and charged with treason, maybe...? Or forced to apologize, maybe...? Or censured by the U.S. Senate, maybe...? Gad. The silence is just ...deafening, isn't it...? So…. do tell us, *dear* Rogerx2 – and all the rest of you frothing rightwingers who are soooo very upset about the alleged slander of our troops by MoveOn …..

What do you think of Saxby Chambliss’ campaign ad with regard to “slandering” one of our troops, former Senator Max Cleland, who lost both his legs and an arm in service to our country…? Remember that one? They morphed his face into Osama bin Laden’s. (pretty slanderous, if you ask me!)

Or perhaps you could expound – at length, PLEASE! – upon the Swift Boat liars who smeared John Kerry – another “troop” who served his country…?

Let’s hear about how those disgraceful individuals should be tarred and feathered and ridden out of America on a rail, maybe…?

Or arrested and charged with treason, maybe…?

Or forced to apologize, maybe…?

Or censured by the U.S. Senate, maybe…?

Gad. The silence is just …deafening, isn’t it…?

]]> By: Spudge Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-5/#comment-4087098 Spudge Boy Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:52:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4087098 " I guess you did not read “The Terms of Use” Spudge Boy? Attacking others is a no-no according to TP’s rules. You have a history of this. Why not dedate, not attack. Typical! Comment by Johnny Swank — September 21, 2007 @ 3:48 pm" Go fu*k yourself. I will never back down from traitors like yourself and Roger Roger. Never. "You attack one, you attack all." And it is here you show your lack of militaary experience. Non-commissioned officers and enlisted soldiers hate commissioned officers, because they all are entitlement sh!ts just like Bush. Join up, they need your help and it would allow you to speak from experience. ” I guess you did not read “The Terms of Use” Spudge Boy? Attacking others is a no-no according to TP’s rules. You have a history of this. Why not dedate, not attack. Typical!

Comment by Johnny Swank — September 21, 2007 @ 3:48 pm”

Go fu*k yourself. I will never back down from traitors like yourself and Roger Roger. Never.

“You attack one, you attack all.”

And it is here you show your lack of militaary experience. Non-commissioned officers and enlisted soldiers hate commissioned officers, because they all are entitlement sh!ts just like Bush.

Join up, they need your help and it would allow you to speak from experience.

]]> By: whiteyfresh http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-5/#comment-4087076 whiteyfresh Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:39:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4087076 I'm out y'all!! Jake D. Thanks for the help, but I just can't take this crap anymore.... >:-[ I’m out y’all!! Jake D. Thanks for the help, but I just can’t take this crap anymore….

>:-[

]]> By: whiteyfresh http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-5/#comment-4087071 whiteyfresh Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:38:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4087071 rumble GRUMBLE.. Recommend | Tickle| Report Abuse | Ignore | Flip Off | Spank | DESTROY | Whip | Squeeze rumble GRUMBLE..

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]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-5/#comment-4087063 freeman Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:34:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4087063 Yeah my country right or wrong, jonny.You'd have made a good footsoldier in the 3rd reich .The very rights which you renounce are the ones that better men than you have fought to protect ! Grow a conscience !3/4 of a million dead Iraqi's and 4 million refugees aren't enough to satisfy the wet dreams of a group of oil executives who wrote pre 911 that they planned to control China and the developing world through the control of Persian gulf oil ! Iraq had nothing to do with 911 , as stated by the 911 commission and even the general admitted that he couldn't say that this war was making us any safer !&0 plus percent of the Iraqi are polled as wanting us to leave their country ,but neither they nor the vast majority of Americans have the right to descent . Yeah my country right or wrong, jonny.You’d have made a good footsoldier in the 3rd reich .The very rights which you renounce are the ones that better men than you have fought to protect !
Grow a conscience !3/4 of a million dead Iraqi’s and 4 million refugees aren’t enough to satisfy the wet dreams of a group of oil executives who wrote pre 911 that they planned to control China and the developing world through the control of Persian gulf oil !
Iraq had nothing to do with 911 , as stated by the 911 commission and even the general admitted that he couldn’t say that this war was making us any safer !&0 plus percent of the Iraqi are polled as wanting us to leave their country ,but neither they nor the vast majority of Americans have the right to descent .

]]> By: greenpagan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-4/#comment-4087049 greenpagan Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:28:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4087049 Some are of the opinion that Bush, Sammon and Petreaus are all useless bloody sacks of shyte…! ---- <a href="http://greenpagan.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Greenpagan (web log)</a> <a>Greenpagan’s Newsfront</a> ==== Some are of the opinion that Bush, Sammon and Petreaus are all useless bloody sacks of shyte…!

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Greenpagan (web log)

Greenpagan’s Newsfront

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]]> By: hellinabucket http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-4/#comment-4087038 hellinabucket Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:23:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4087038 roger roger, could you please expound on why you believe the General? The questions the moveon ad raised are legitimate so I am curious to know why you believe the General. roger roger, could you please expound on why you believe the General? The questions the moveon ad raised are legitimate so I am curious to know why you believe the General.

]]> By: Roger_Roger http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-4/#comment-4087022 Roger_Roger Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:07:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4087022 #194 I believe the general. You are free (because he protects that freedom) to disagree. To call him a liar is wrong since you don't have any solid proof. That is slender BTW since you are stating something simply to smear their reputation without proof (a general none the less). #194 I believe the general. You are free (because he protects that freedom) to disagree. To call him a liar is wrong since you don’t have any solid proof. That is slender BTW since you are stating something simply to smear their reputation without proof (a general none the less).

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-4/#comment-4086999 bilbobaggins Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:49:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4086999 <em>We have been silent for too long. We have played the game politely and we have played by the rules. We have been screwed, people. Our opponent in this game is a gang of exigent, sociopathic, neocon fascist THUGS and their lemming-like followers - who will say or do anything to win, right up to and including cheating, lying, thievery and God knows what else. Are we going to let them win?</em> Good on you Annie. I agree with you completely. These words you have written should be sent to every Democratic representative out there. I say it's time we start playing the game their way. How about threatening to go "nuclear" on the filibuster as an initial move? We have been silent for too long.

We have played the game politely and we have played by the rules.

We have been screwed, people.

Our opponent in this game is a gang of exigent, sociopathic, neocon fascist THUGS and their lemming-like followers – who will say or do anything to win, right up to and including cheating, lying, thievery and God knows what else.

Are we going to let them win?

Good on you Annie. I agree with you completely. These words you have written should be sent to every Democratic representative out there. I say it’s time we start playing the game their way. How about threatening to go “nuclear” on the filibuster as an initial move?

]]> By: TripMaster Monkey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-4/#comment-4086994 TripMaster Monkey Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:46:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4086994 Roger_Rhetoric sez: <blockquote><em>Last time I checked, a general is a troop, thus they are slandering a troop. It wrong, it is anti-troops</em></blockquote> I'm getting <b>really</b> tired of explaining this to you and your playmates, RR. 1) Calling a liar on his lies is <b>not</b> slander. If General Petraeus is going to discard his honor and integrity and mouth the administration's lies, he's just going to have to get used to being called a liar. 2) Even if it <em>was</em> slander, slandering one individual does <strong>not</strong> equate to slandering the entire Armed Forces, all your <em>Semper Fi</em> "I claim to have served in Desert Storm, so my opinion is better than yours" bullsh!t notwithstanding. If you don't have the courage and integrity to speak the truth, that's your lookout. But stop trying to impugn the integrity and honor of those who do with lies of your own. It's getting <i>seriously</i> old. Roger_Rhetoric sez:

Last time I checked, a general is a troop, thus they are slandering a troop. It wrong, it is anti-troops

I’m getting really tired of explaining this to you and your playmates, RR.

1) Calling a liar on his lies is not slander. If General Petraeus is going to discard his honor and integrity and mouth the administration’s lies, he’s just going to have to get used to being called a liar.

2) Even if it was slander, slandering one individual does not equate to slandering the entire Armed Forces, all your Semper Fi “I claim to have served in Desert Storm, so my opinion is better than yours” bullsh!t notwithstanding.

If you don’t have the courage and integrity to speak the truth, that’s your lookout. But stop trying to impugn the integrity and honor of those who do with lies of your own. It’s getting seriously old.

]]> By: Spudge Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-4/#comment-4086986 Spudge Boy Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:37:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4086986 "#181 Last time I checked, a general is a troop" Thus you show that you don't have one single ounce of knowledge about the military dumb fu*k. “#181 Last time I checked, a general is a troop”

Thus you show that you don’t have one single ounce of knowledge about the military dumb fu*k.

]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-4/#comment-4086985 freeman Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:37:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4086985 Hey Mack and who will decide what is right , a C student from the upper class ? A christian who advocates war and torture ? I'll make my own decisions thank you .Love is a personal choice , I don't need a priest to guide me or worse yet a lawyer politician or a fanatic . Our constitution ,which you obviously have no use for , says we are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights.First among them is the right to follow your own conscience . Free will is gods greatest gift to us , and my relationship to God and the universe is personal .I've chosen truth love and beauty as my passion .What do you do with your time ? Hey Mack
and who will decide what is right , a C student from the upper class ?
A christian who advocates war and torture ? I’ll make my own decisions thank you .Love is a personal choice , I don’t need a priest to guide me or worse yet a lawyer politician or a fanatic .
Our constitution ,which you obviously have no use for , says we are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights.First among them is the right to follow your own conscience .
Free will is gods greatest gift to us , and my relationship to God and the universe is personal .I’ve chosen truth love and beauty as my passion .What do you do with your time ?

]]> By: gummitch http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/comment-page-4/#comment-4086982 gummitch Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:35:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/21/sammon-bush-moveon/#comment-4086982 <em>#181 Last time I checked, a general is a troop, thus they are slandering a troop. It wrong, it is anti-troops, and it isn’t something either political party should endorse. I enver minded moveon.org until this. After they slandered an active duty troop, I feel both poltical parties should avoid moveon and publicly denounce them. I served in Desert Storm. Slandering me, my officers, or my general is all the same in my eyes. Comment by Roger_Roger — September 21, 2007 @ 3:31 pm</em> They did not slander a troop. They criticized a troop. And they support the thousands and thousands of other troops, which is why they cricitized this troop. It is your inability to comprehend such a simple, basic reality that is causing you to look like such a prat. And that, by the way, is not slander. It's a criticism. And an observation. #181 Last time I checked, a general is a troop, thus they are slandering a troop. It wrong, it is anti-troops, and it isn’t something either political party should endorse. I enver minded moveon.org until this. After they slandered an active duty troop, I feel both poltical parties should avoid moveon and publicly denounce them. I served in Desert Storm. Slandering me, my officers, or my general is all the same in my eyes.

Comment by Roger_Roger — September 21, 2007 @ 3:31 pm

They did not slander a troop. They criticized a troop. And they support the thousands and thousands of other troops, which is why they cricitized this troop.

It is your inability to comprehend such a simple, basic reality that is causing you to look like such a prat. And that, by the way, is not slander. It’s a criticism. And an observation.

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