ThinkFast: September 21, 2007
ThinkFast: September 21, 2007
“Republicans reacted angrily yesterday” to Bush’s pledge to veto increased funding for children’s health insurance. “I’m disappointed by the president’s comments,” said Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA). “I’m very, very disappointed,” echoed Sen. Gordon Smith (R-OR).
89.6 million: The number of Americans under the age of 65 who “had no health insurance for some or all of 2006 and 2007, according to a study released Thursday by Families USA, an advocacy group for the uninsured. The number is “almost double the number of uninsured reported by the Census Bureau for 2006.”
In a protest march in Jena, LA, yesterday that “filled streets, spilled onto sidewalks and stretched for miles,” more than 10,000 demonstrators rallied to protest the treatment of six black teenagers arrested in the beating of a white schoolmate last year. Support the Jena 6 here.
The appointment of Donald Rumsfeld as a “distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution is drawing fierce protests from faculty members and students at Stanford University.” “Some 2,100 professors, staff members, students and alumni have signed” a petition protesting his appointment.
Rep. Peter King (R-NY), who recently said “there are too many mosques” in America, continues to advise former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani “chuckled” at the suggestion of dumping King. “I’ve known Pete for 41 years, so I’m not about to do that,” he said.
The U.S. “corroborated” Israeli intelligence that formed the basis for Israel’s decision to attack a site inside Syria on Sept. 6. While some reports indicate it was a suspected nuclear site, others report it was “missiles and/or weapons parts.” Bush refused to make any comment on the matter yesterday.
Attorney General nominee Michael Mukasey assured Senators yesterday “that he would limit contacts between the Justice Department and the White House to halt any political meddling with ongoing investigations.” The Senate Judiciary Committee also approved a bill, introduced by Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), that will limit communications between the Justice Department and the White House regarding ongoing investigations.
In the first comprehensive account of Sunday’s shootout in Baghdad involving Blackwater contractors, the Iraqi Interior Ministry concluded the guards fired “an unprovoked barrage” on Iraqis in their cars in midday traffic. The report recommends that “the dozens of foreign security companies” in Iraq “should be replaced by Iraqi companies, and that a law that has given the companies immunity for years be scrapped.”
And finally: The famous wax museum Madame Tussauds “flew its wax statue of Abraham Lincoln to D.C. on a Delta Shuttle flight on Thursday. Abe rode in the coach section with regular, non-presidential passengers.” Picture below:
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So Republicans are "reacting angrily" to Bush? I'll believe it when their votes match their words.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:09 amThe appointment of Donald Rumsfeld as a “distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution is drawing fierce protests from faculty members and students at Stanford University.â€
Now, is this the real Stanford, or the "ivy-league" Stanford that Jason Misogynist Hendler and Shakey Jake attended? ^_^
September 21st, 2007 at 9:10 amGeez -- no matter where Rummy goes, he's greeted with all the warmth due a skunk at a church picnic. I think he has reached shuffleboard time.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:10 amIn a protest march in Jena, LA, yesterday that “filled streets, spilled onto sidewalks and stretched for miles,†more than 10,000 demonstrators rallied to protest the treatment of six black teenagers arrested in the beating of a white schoolmate last year. Support the Jena 6 here.
About ten times that number showed up in D.C. last weekend to protest the Iraq Occupation...but you'd never know it by listening to the MSM.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:13 amRudy, your decision to keep a blatant bigot on your staff speaks well of your loyalty but not of your common sense. Having King in your corner might play well to the narrow-minded sector of America, but you have to get more of the country than that to win.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:13 amJake D. sez:
The U.S. Constitution does not grant the federal government the power to revoke habeas corpus, either, Shakey...but they seem to have managed that...
September 21st, 2007 at 9:15 amJake D. sez:
Which Stanford, Shakey? The ivy-league one or the real one?
September 21st, 2007 at 9:16 amThe U.S. Constitution does not grant the federal government the power to provided health insurance for children.
I agree. I'm glad to see Jake D. sticking by the Constitution. Now what about illegal wiretapping (Fourth Amendment)? What about the Webb Amendment (Article I, Section 8)? What about Habeas Corpus (Article I, Section 9)?
~Sean
September 21st, 2007 at 9:18 amJake D. sez:
"For the record", that sounds an awful lot like a reply to my earlier post, shakey, since no one else has mentioned the protest in D.C.. Am I off The List â„¢ now?
And yes, it WAS at least 100,000. One need only look at the photos of the event to confirm this.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:19 amThe U.S. Constitution does not grant the federal government the power to provided health insurance for children.
Comment by Jake D. — September 21, 2007 @ 9:11 am
Oh, what were we thinking? We need to immediately dismantle all federal programs not specifically granted by the U.S. Constitution. Goodbye Social Security, Medicare, National Parks, NASA, etc.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:19 amsarc/off
The U.S. “corroborated†Israeli intelligence that formed the basis for Israel’s decision to attack a site inside Syria on Sept. 6.
Ok folks, here we go. Now the US is going to claim that Syria is trying to build a nuclear bomb. I am not surprised that the Israelis believed Bush's intel. What I am surprised about is that Israel has not already started the war Bush is itching for in Iran. Right now I would say that the United States and Israel are the two most dangerous nations to the remainder of the world.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:20 amThe U.S. Constitution does not grant the federal government the power to provided health insurance for children.
Comment by Jake D.
"Strawman on aisle D, Strawman on aisle D, request a cleanup."
September 21st, 2007 at 9:21 amI'm surprised they had enough legroom for Honest Abe in coach. The guy was six foot four, after all...
September 21st, 2007 at 9:21 amJake D. sez:
Shakey, why don't you just abandon your silly pretense of an "ignore list", as it is obvious you're responding to my posts.
It's interesting that you bring up the Supreme Court like you think it's some sort of valid point, when this is the same SCOTUS that, in a blatant overstepping of their authority, 'appointed' Chimpy President, ushering in this era of darkness and shame.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:22 amJake D., so I assume you're voting Ron Paul? (I am).
~Sean
September 21st, 2007 at 9:24 amTMM, to continue the discussion of Jena yesterday, I was sent an article (unsourced, sorry) that stated the kid who first attacked the white victim was himself the victim of the prior attack by white kids.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:25 amPer the article, earlier that day, the white victim had been "bragging" about the black victim being assaulted. Then later that night, the 6 kids beat the tar out of him while he lay unconscious.
It also stated the reason for the all-white jury was that all African Americans called to jury duty didn't show up.
It’s interesting that you bring up the Supreme Court like you think it’s some sort of valid point, when this is the same SCOTUS that, in a blatant overstepping of their authority, ‘appointed’ Chimpy President, ushering in this era of darkness and shame.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — September 21, 2007 @ 9:22 am
Ah, but that's exactly why "Independents" love SCOTUS.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:25 amWhat DON'T republicans react angrily to? Its their way of life!
September 21st, 2007 at 9:25 amAnd yes, it WAS at least 100,000. One need only look at the photos of the event to confirm this.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
But, but, Jake the Flake was there. He counted the protesters, so he knows what he is talking about...right?
September 21st, 2007 at 9:25 amNational parks and NASA are authorized under the Constitution.
Comment by Jake D. — September 21, 2007 @ 9:23 am
I'm trying to recall exactly where space shuttles fit into the Constitution, Jake. Maybe you could help us out with this one.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:27 amAs a gay man, I wonder why a gay person can get beaten (to death even) and the attacker gets away with it (usually using the ridiculous "gay panic" defense) without marches and rallies. Oh, that's right... it's okay to hate gays because God says so.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:28 amActually, the US constitution DOES grant the federal govt power to provide health care:
Preamble:
"...provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare..."
I defense only defined as foreign aggressors? How would you define general welfare?
September 21st, 2007 at 9:28 amI believe the “conservative†position is, indeed, to immediately dismantle all federal programs not authorized by the U.S. Constitution. Goodbye Social Security and Medicare. National parks and NASA are authorized under the Constitution.
Comment by Jake D.
Isn't it interesting that Jake the Flake wants to use the constitution as an excuse to privatize our entire government but when it comes to things like our rights to privacy and habeas corpus, he's fine with dismantling the constitution. Typical selective reasoning by a neoCON conservative. It's kind of like what the evangelicals do with the bible. They cherry pick the phrases they want to use to justify discrimination against gays and ignore the remainder of the bible.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:29 amGod doesn't say its OK to hate gays. The hate part is an addition by republicans.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:29 amRight now I would say that the United States and Israel are the two most dangerous nations to the remainder of the world. -Bilbobaggins
Agreed. Hands down.
And most arrogant, as well.
Why are no Israelis part of the 'Coalition of the Willing'?
Why is Israel allowed nukes with no accountability?
Why are we handing them $30 Billion for more weapons when they only answer to whom they choose?
September 21st, 2007 at 9:30 am@31, I was being sarcastic. ;)
September 21st, 2007 at 9:32 amThere is no "discussion" with Jake the Fake. He makes his erronious, ignorant pronouncements, and anyone who disagrees goes on his ignore list. He's a 7-year-old on mommy's computer. with no understanding of either the Constitution or "principles". He's now on my IGNORE list. I don't argue with kids and drunks.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:35 amIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†(from before or after registration) wants to discuss anything, let me know.
Comment by Jake D.
This guy's arrogance and ignorance are beyond breathtaking. He actually thinks that someone on this blog thinks that he has something to say that is worthwhile discussing. And his "ignore list" is like a 5 year old who says "I can't see you, you are on my ignore list".
Also, I am willing to bet the farm that Jake the Flake has never even set foot on the Stanford campus. I bet he has never even been on any college campus. In order to graduate from college one needs to have good critical thinking skills. Jake the Flake has zero critical thinking skills. There's no way he could have ever made it through college. And then there is his writing style. Again, zippo. There is no way any teacher would have passed him with his level of writing skills.
For the record, Jake the Flake is a phony.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:36 amWho is talking about a free handout? You'll be paying for healthcare with your taxes.
Is disease not a common threat?
For God sakes, cancer has killed far more than those mean old Muslims.
If health care is universal, it is applied to the COMMON good. The common good includes individuals.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:36 amWhy are we handing them $30 Billion for more weapons when they only answer to whom they choose?
Comment by Zimzone — September 21, 2007 @ 9:30 am
Better question: Why do we give them even one dime while we have people in the US, uninsured, homeless or unemployed?
( Because helping Americans in need, providing for the common welfare, does not line the pockets of weapons dealers, who then line the pockets of politicians. )
September 21st, 2007 at 9:37 am“Republicans reacted angrily yesterday†to Bush’s pledge to veto increased funding for children’s health insurance. “I’m disappointed by the president’s comments,†said Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA). “I’m very, very disappointed,†echoed Sen. Gordon Smith (R-OR).
The may be disappointed, or even very disappointed, but they'll vote against the increased funding.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:38 amJake, might I add that if you are against free handouts, you need to abandon the GOP as GOP presidents have increased "free handouts" far more than dem presidents:
http://www.cato.org/pubs/tbb/tbb-0510-26.pdf
WHOOOPS! Its even a conserative source!
September 21st, 2007 at 9:38 amJake D. sez:
Coward.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:41 amWell, then you'll never vote GOP again then, right Jake?
With all those free socialist handouts.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:42 amWhy are you guys even responding to Jacko, who is hiding behind his childish "Ignore List", so he doesn't have to back up even one inane statement?
He posts crap, so he can get off from the reactions of those who respond. Ignore him and he can't get his jollies.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:43 amI think Jake is serious. Its fun to slap these sorts of people down.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:45 amWow -- limiting communications between the DoJ and the White House regarding ongoing investigations? To halt political meddling? What a novel idea!
So who thought of this first? Did Mukasey think of it and then Sheldon Whitehouse said "that's such a great idea I think I'll introduce a bill to that effect!"? Or did Mukasey make his assurance in reaction to the bill because he wants the AG job?
Not that it matters either way -- if Bush and Cheney want a lapdog in that position, that's what they'll get.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:47 amFor the record, Jake D. Fake, are you not ignoring someone on your snore list that changed his/her posting name?
September 21st, 2007 at 9:48 amjust asking...
The Senate Judiciary Committee also approved a bill, introduced by Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), that will limit communications between the Justice Department and the White House regarding ongoing investigations.
What's with "limit". How about "prohibit". Using the term "limit" is a slippery slope and we DO NOT want to give this administration or any future administration a slippery slope they can slide down!
September 21st, 2007 at 9:50 amThe report recommends that “the dozens of foreign security companies†in Iraq “should be replaced by Iraqi companies
This sounds like a good idea. So it's not going to happen if I understand the decision making process correctly.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:51 amWhy are we handing them $30 Billion for more weapons when they only answer to whom they choose?
Comment by Zimzone — September 21, 2007 @ 9:30 am
Better question: Why do we give them even one dime while we have people in the US, uninsured, homeless or unemployed? -Wayne
Thanks, Wayne. Agreed. 80+ million w/o health care last year? America, where did our conscience go? Those of you who's lives center around a belief in God and support the President are OK with this? We should be ashamed of ourselves and our President. He's not only the laughingstock of much of the world, we've become the same.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:52 amThe report recommends that “the dozens of foreign security companies†in Iraq “should be replaced by Iraqi companies, and that a law that has given the companies immunity for years be scrapped.â€
Wow, the Iraqi's are finally standing up to Bully Boy Bush. Now lets see if they follow through on it. I say they demand that the US government pay Iraqi "mercenaries" $100,000 a year the same as what they paid Blackwater employees. They should make that a condition of the US staying in their country.
It's nice to see the Iraqi government growing a spine and standing up for their country. More of it please.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:52 amBest line of the week:
Hillary calling Cheney Darth Vader!
September 21st, 2007 at 9:53 amAmerica, where did our conscience go? Those of you who’s lives center around a belief in God and support the President are OK with this?
Of course they are. Didn't you know that God was a capitalist?
September 21st, 2007 at 9:54 amThe U.S. Constitution does not grant the federal government the power to provided health insurance for children.
Comment by Jake D. — September 21, 2007 @ 9:11 am
It can be argued that Universal Health Care is a basic human right. For anyone who has the constitution (no pun intended) to read an incredibly boring arguement for this:
http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/109/12/1460
September 21st, 2007 at 9:54 amBilbo,
September 21st, 2007 at 9:55 amGod may be a capitalist, but Jesus was a Socialist.
Are there to many Christian church's in America? Does Christianity influence America and politics to much? If you even kinda think the answer is yes to either of these questions, you really have no right slamming Peter King.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:56 amIf Jake was really trained in the law, he would know the precedents that the Court has settled regarding public purpose which would make matters of federal healthcare Constitutionally appropriate for enactment by Congress.
Public purpose
Interstate commerce
Sunshine Anthracite Coal Co. v. Adkins
"there has long been recognition of the authority of Congress to obtain ... social, health or economic advantages from the exercise of constitutional powers"
Congress's authority over "commerce among the several States" empowers the national government to address all activity, "whatever its nature ... if it exerts a substantial economic effect on interstate commerce.
I'm surprised that a self-proclaimed lawyer would propose that because the word healthcare (which didn't exist at the time of the Founders) doesn't occur in the Constitution, it is therefore unconstitutional.
Wait, no I'm not. It's Jake.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:58 amsome have had questions about how many private contractors there are in iraq... this article appeared yesterday in my daily paper ( i found a link at the google news):
In Iraq, private contractors outnumber U.S. troops
By Richard Lardner The Associated Press
WASHINGTON — The United States has assembled an imposing industrial army in Iraq that's larger than its uniformed fighting force and is responsible for such a broad swath of responsibilities that the military might not be able to operate without its private-sector partners.
More than 180,000 Americans, Iraqis and nationals from other countries work under federal contracts to provide security, gather intelligence, build roads, improve infrastructure, forge a financial system and transport needed supplies in a country the size of California.
That figure contrasts with the 163,100 U.S. military personnel,...
[...]
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/iraq/2003893181_iraqoutsource20.html
...
and not very well, i might add...
September 21st, 2007 at 9:59 am.
Best line of the week:
Hillary calling Cheney Darth Vader!
Comment by Zimzone
I saw that. It was hilarious. I hate to admit it, but she is starting to grow on me. But, she is still a little too corporate and military minded for my taste. My dream team is Al Gore/Dennis Kucinich. Talk about a dynamic duo!
September 21st, 2007 at 10:00 amjaked: You are a servile idiot. Your blather is beyond description. You have absolutely no concept of America, other than what your right wing handlers tell you to post.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:01 amIndependent? BS; you are an coulter/malkin/rove wannabe.
Fortunately, after 2008, your voice, along with the other screaming hate-filled troglodites, will be a whisper in the wilderness.
Jake
Bush was not the most conservative candidate. Gore would have continued Clinton's plan to pay off the debt. Bush's debt record proves he is not the most conservative of the 2.
You do know that you have more than 2 choices, right?
September 21st, 2007 at 10:02 amAlso, I am willing to bet the farm that Jake the Flake has never even set foot on the Stanford campus. I bet he has never even been on any college campus. In order to graduate from college one needs to have good critical thinking skills. Jake the Flake has zero critical thinking skills. There’s no way he could have ever made it through college. And then there is his writing style. Again, zippo. There is no way any teacher would have passed him with his level of writing skills.
For the record, Jake the Flake is a phony.
Comment by bilbobaggins — September 21, 2007 @ 9:36 am
And, this is further proof that he has no law degree (unless it is from JC Penny's or Falwell's Regent U). Without critical thinking and commmunication skills, he wouldn't get into a law program, let alone past L1.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:02 amIf Jake was really trained in the law....
Only in the fantasy life he has built for himself. Can you imagine living a life so void of any accomplishments that you have to steal a person's persona and pretend you are something you are not? Its very sad.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:03 amAs a gay man, I wonder why a gay person can get beaten (to death even) and the attacker gets away with it (usually using the ridiculous “gay panic†defense) without marches and rallies. Oh, that’s right… it’s okay to hate gays because God says so.
Comment by Will — September 21, 2007 @ 9:28 am
Gays are treated as second class citizens in this country and shouldn't be. Its unfortunate today's "civil rights" leaders are so willing to ignore this.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:03 amRoger_Rhetoric sez:
Sorry, RR, but as the number of Mosques in this country is but a tiny fraction of the number of churches, the first part of your argument holds no water.
As for the second part, as King was fallaciously equating mosques with radical Islam, rather than stating that Islam influences America and politics too much, it's just another one of your sloppy Straw Men, and it holds no water either.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:03 amSomething has been missing in open new's report's....Noted yesterday in bull shit's speech he answered a question briefly about the foreign country that wanted to buy into the stock exchange, said it would be looked into..Yah! I bet it will (not).Keep it quiet, don't cover it...Dubi is wanting to buy in, you all remember, the same group that baught into the port's, said they would seel, then they coulden't find a buyer so they still own them. ...The same out fit that is joined at the hip with the most evil in charge cheney and in a cancerious way is linked to the very people that supported the 9/11 bomber's.....Evil doeing's still going on.....Blessings
September 21st, 2007 at 10:04 ambilbobaggins:
September 21st, 2007 at 10:04 amMy dream is Obama or Dodd or Richardson or Gore for President and Hillary for Supreme Court. Could you imagine the right wing heads exploding if Clinton has a lifetime appointment to the Court. I'll buy the popcorn.
Fortunately, after 2008, your voice, along with the other screaming hate-filled troglodites, will be a whisper in the wilderness.
I can hardly wait. What a relief it will be.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:04 amComment by Candyce — September 21, 2007 @ 9:58 am
Nice catch, Candyce. Thanks. ^_^
September 21st, 2007 at 10:04 amIn Iraq, private contractors outnumber U.S. troops
By Richard Lardner The Associated Press
and when has the use of mercenaries ever ended up a good thing for the nation paying for their services? not too often.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:04 amI only know this number because it came up in another post a few days ago and I looked it up.
There are over 400,000 churches in America. There are 1209 mosques.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:05 amNope, I've never posted under another name.
Now answer my question
September 21st, 2007 at 10:05 amMy dream is Obama or Dodd or Richardson or Gore for President and Hillary for Supreme Court. Could you imagine the right wing heads exploding if Clinton has a lifetime appointment to the Court. I’ll buy the popcorn.
Oh, I like it. That would be amazing. And, I think she would make a very good Supreme Court Justice.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:05 amJake D. sez:
The doubt is starting to gnaw at you, isn't it, Shakey?
September 21st, 2007 at 10:05 amComment by TripMaster Monkey — September 21, 2007 @ 10:04 am
I'm trying to get on The List. :P
September 21st, 2007 at 10:06 amCandyce sez:
Well, calling him on his lies is one of the fast ways, as we've all seen. ;)
September 21st, 2007 at 10:09 amI now present you with a legitimate way for Dems to achieve one of their priorities - the redistribution of wealth from corporations / financial institutions to individuals and families:
Repeal the increased term of mortgages from 30 years to 20 years -
Dems should gradually reduce the length of the longest term mortgage from 30 years to 20 years by 6 months every year for 20 years, so as to have minimal impact on home prices, while increasing the savings rate and equity individuals and families have in their homes. No other single policy change will move money from corporations / financial institution into the pockets of individuals and families.
More than 30 years ago, mortgage terms were increased from 20 years to 30 years, as a short term "solution" to high home prices, but the policy backfired, raising home prices ever higher, while vastly diminishing the accrued equity in homes (killing the savings rate). No other policy has forced families to have two income earners as much as this one, and it should be gradually repealed.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:09 am"Dems to achieve one of their priorities - the redistribution of wealth from corporations / financial institutions to individuals and families"
OMG! You are a moron!
September 21st, 2007 at 10:12 amBilbo,
I would eagerly support a Gore / Kucinich ticket myself.
My best choice would be Gore / Clark, however.
Gen. Clark has matured a lot since '04. He's much more 'polished' as a speaker, and exudes a charisma not often seen in ex-military people.
How about it, TP? Gore / Clark '08!
September 21st, 2007 at 10:14 amComment by Jason M. Hendler — September 21, 2007 @ 10:09 am
Good idea, Jason, but an even better way would be to stop mortgaging our grandchildren's future by selling this country to China and lowering the dollar to Canadian Loonie status. What's next, getting it down to Mexican peso value? And BushCo is on the fast track to do that, for sure.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:14 amBilbo,
I would eagerly support a Gore / Kucinich ticket myself.
My best choice would be Gore / Clark, however.
Gen. Clark has matured a lot since ‘04. He’s much more ‘polished’ as a speaker, and exudes a charisma not often seen in ex-military people.
How about it, TP? Gore / Clark ‘08!
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Comment by Zimzone — September 21, 2007 @ 10:14 am
okay take a step back from fantasy island now
September 21st, 2007 at 10:17 amMan, I'm friggin' laughing my arse off at Jake D. Fake's paranoia.
SUCKA!!!
September 21st, 2007 at 10:18 am...programs not specifically granted by the U.S. Constitution. Goodbye Social Security, Medicare, National Parks, NASA, etc. sarc/off
Comment by missmolly — September 21, 2007 @ 9:19 am
well, you know the righties would LOVE that...
September 21st, 2007 at 10:19 am...
bob h,
A man can dream, can't he?
(...ze plane, boss! ze plane!)
September 21st, 2007 at 10:20 ameven TP registration could not stop all the love and affection
and attention that the jake trooll so wants and needs...
too bad...
September 21st, 2007 at 10:20 am.
I wouldn't be surprised if Clark were nominated Sec Def under a Clinton administration, though. Veep would be unlikely since he's from Arkansas, like the Clintons.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:20 amI'd like to see him in the federal government. I think he'd be great. I wish he were running for president, though.
Hmm, Jake? Have you even read the constitution?
"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
Which word are you NOT understanding?
September 21st, 2007 at 10:20 amBeyond the calls Allen made while cooperating, prosecutors also have thousands of conversations the FBI recorded while secretly wiretapping phones belonging to Allen and fellow VECO executive Rick Smith. Agents also secretly videotaped meetings between contractors and state politicians at a hotel suite in Juneau, Alaska's capital.
countdown to republicans wanting to eliminate wiretapping.....10....9....8
September 21st, 2007 at 10:21 amjake cant see owlbear....his head is tooo far up his own ass
September 21st, 2007 at 10:21 amThanks for answering my question (refusing to do so and/or resorting to personal attacks are the only ways to get on the “Ignore Listâ€).
Comment by Jake D.Paranoid Fake — September 21, 2007 @ 10:20 am
Are you sure detroitsuperfly is not a regular renamed? Seems to be common lately, eh Jake?
September 21st, 2007 at 10:23 amI'm mean, how often have you seen detroitsuperfly here?
Or am I obviously jumping to conclusions prematurely?
well Jake, which is it???
I now present you with a legitimate way for Dems to achieve one of their priorities - the redistribution of wealth from corporations / financial institutions to individuals and families:
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — September 21, 2007 @ 10:09 am
It's interesting that you seem to think individuals and families gaining wealth is a bad thing.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:24 amhuh...
Mattel apologizes to China for toy recalls
BEIJING (Reuters) — Mattel, the world's largest toymaker, apologized on Friday for damaging China's reputation after recent massive recalls of its Chinese-made toys, admitting it targeted some goods that were actually up to scratch.
[...]
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2007-09-21-mattel-china_N.htm
so sorry, china...
September 21st, 2007 at 10:26 am...
the redistribution of wealth from corporations / financial institutions to individuals and familiesin need:
Comment by Jason Misogynist Hendler — September 21, 2007 @ 10:09 am
Well Jason, how very Christian of you! I figured your 40 year non sexual status may be good for something!!!
(Bold is mine)
September 21st, 2007 at 10:26 amToo true. "The list" (that no one ever sees) is just one of the many dodges the troll uses to avoid a real discussion. Then he goes on to bait other people, and gets petulant when people call him on it. Much better to simply make your own "Ignore List" and put one name on it.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:27 ammattel is saying sorry to their new masters.....
September 21st, 2007 at 10:27 amComment by bob h — September 21, 2007 @ 10:21 am
hahahaha!
I just love this story. That nasty old santimonious twit. Couldn't happen to a greater guy.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:28 amWho is dodging questions?
September 21st, 2007 at 10:29 amJAKE
Actually Jake, if you look at GOP history since the 60s, you'll see that the dems are far more fiscally conservative than the GOP presidents.
If you kenw history, you wouldn't vote GOP if you wanted fiscal conservatism.
7 trillion of our nearly 9 trillion debt was spent by "conservatives"
So you only vote for people who can win? How sad for you to have such weak ideals!~
September 21st, 2007 at 10:29 amNoticed the jason troll want's his share of attention so he reposted one of his yesterday comment's....It's just so unfair that jakeie is getting all the attention....Lol...You all have fun tossing troll's I'm off to hug the Bear and some tree's...Blessings
September 21st, 2007 at 10:29 amWill Mattel be apologizing to the 3 year old who has been sucking pure lead for the last 6 months?
Will Mattel be paying for the lead screening blood tests?
How much did your profit margin increase by outsourcing to cheap labor and mgmt, Mattel?
How high did your CEO's salary jump after outsourcing?
Toys are for kids; profits are for CEOs.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:31 amWhat did we miss? Let us know in the comments section.
"Yesterday, William Lerach, 61, agreed to pay the government fines and penalties of $8 million and to plead guilty to a charge of conspiracy to obstruct justice....
He and his firms gave more than $3.6 million to Democrats in the past decade, according to campaign finance records. President Bill Clinton spent a night at Lerach's mansion in the late 1990s and later appointed him to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Council...
Lerach, his family and members of his new law Lerach Coughlin law firm accounted for nearly $78,000 in donations to John Edwards' campaign in the first half of this year, making the trial lawyer one of the North Carolina Democrat's leading "bundlers" of contributions.
In May, Edwards used the bully pulpit of his presidential campaign to publicly pressure the Securities and Exchange Commission not to oppose Lerach's new law firm in a Supreme Court case over whether Lerach's lawsuits could proceed against banks on behalf of investors who lost millions in the collapse of energy giant Enron...
All of this transpired while Edwards campaigned against what he calls a "corroded and corrupt" Washington system in which politicians raise money from special interests who then seek their help on government matters."
Washington Post
September 21st, 2007 at 10:32 am9/19/2007
Are there to many Christian church’s in America? Does Christianity influence America and politics to much? If you even kinda think the answer is yes to either of these questions, you really have no right slamming Peter King.
Comment by Roger_Roger — September 21, 2007 @ 9:56 am
You're comparing apples to oranges here. No, I don't think there are too many Christian churches in America. Yes, I think Christianity (or, more accurately, the brand of "Christianity" the rabid right hides behind) influences American politics more than it should. But my thoughts on those questions really don't have anything to do with many of the outrageous statements made by Peter King.
I have never said that Christians are an enemy living among us, nor have I ever thought that "infiltrating" churches was necessary. I've also never suggested that Christians should tell us what goes on within their churches.
Christianity, like Islam, has a few adherents whose interpretation of the doctrine is over the top. Where I differ from Peter King is that I still believe that freedom of religion must be respected in this country -- and that means all religions, not just my own.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:33 amIOKIYAR, remember? Illegal for Dems,legal for Rethugs....
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September 21st, 2007 at 10:33 amSo why are you here defending GOP policies?
YOu don;t have any consistency, boy!
September 21st, 2007 at 10:34 amLead concerns prompt warning to consumers about lunch boxes
By STEVE LAWRENCE Associated Press Writer
SACRAMENTO—State officials on Thursday urged consumers not to use some 56,000 potentially lead-tainted lunch boxes from China that were distributed through the Department of Public Health in an effort to get people to eat more fruits and vegetables.
Tests found elevated levels of lead in three of the boxes, officials said.
The boxes were given out at health fairs and other events and carried a logo saying "eat fruits and vegetables and be active."
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http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_6950045?source=most_viewed
so sorry, china...
September 21st, 2007 at 10:34 am.
Thank you, missmolly, couldn't have said it any better.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:34 amThere is no Constitutional Party, Jake. Did you mean the theocratic party, the Constitution Party?
September 21st, 2007 at 10:36 amThe U.S. Constitution does not grant the federal government the power to provided health insurance for children.
Comment by Jake D. — September 21, 2007 @ 9:11 am
It doesn't say anything about your f*cking Social Security either.
Shut the F*ck Up.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:37 amLerach, 61, admitted in a plea agreement that prosecutors filed yesterday that he participated in a scheme that secretly paid kickbacks to recruit plaintiffs for more than 150 class-action lawsuits brought against U.S. companies.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:38 am====
Forgot that part Exley...
The U.S. Constitution does not grant the federal government the power to provided health insurance for children.
Comment by Jake D. — September 21, 2007 @ 9:11 am
And it doesn't expressly forbid it either, *SSHOLE.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:39 amJake D sez:
And then he goes on to say:
So, Shakey, did the "Constitutional" Party candidate have a realistic chance of winning the last election?
(BTW, idiot, it's "Constitution Party", not "Constitutional Party". You might have known that if you actually voted as you claimed.)
September 21st, 2007 at 10:39 amBeat me to it, Candyce ^_^
You're well on the way to getting on The List â„¢ (if your constant embarassing of Jake hasn't already earned you a place there. ;) )
September 21st, 2007 at 10:41 amIf you defend conservative opinions why do you defend GOP economic policy?
There is nothing conservative about it.
Dems are FAR more fiscally conservative than the GOP.
You seriously should vote Hillary in 08 if you want economic conservatism.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:43 am#115.
Yep, that is what that major Democratic fundraiser and John Edwards ally William Lerach did....And that's why he is going to jail. Is Edwards going to return Lerach's tainted money and renounce this guy?
September 21st, 2007 at 10:44 amLet Hoover know how they are tarnishing their reputation by having a war criminal:
horaney@hoover.stanford.edu
September 21st, 2007 at 10:44 am"... lowering the dollar to Canadian Loonie status."
Comment by upside99 — September 21, 2007 @ 10:14 am
Hey, don't take Bush's stupdity out on the Canucks. They haven't done anything wrong here.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:44 amwow, ex... you can't even do a decent job of posting articles...
shouldn't use quotation marks like that - wrong...
but, i found the article... what took you so long? that was 9/19...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/18/AR2007091802211.html
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Yesterday, he agreed to pay the government fines and penalties of $8 million and to plead guilty to a charge of conspiracy to obstruct justice. The deal ends a seven-year investigation into allegations that he and his former law firm secretly paid people to serve as plaintiffs. Under the terms of the plea, which requires court approval, he will serve at least one year and no more than two years in federal prison.
"I have always fought for my clients aggressively and vigorously in order to hold powerful corporations responsible when their actions harmed people," Lerach said in a statement. "However, I regrettably crossed a line and pushed too far. For my actions, I apologize and accept full responsibility for my conduct."
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now THAT"S something you don't see much from the repugs...
September 21st, 2007 at 10:46 am...
"Hey, don’t take Bush’s stupdity out on the Canucks"
It wasnt an insult, the Loony, is a term used for the Canadian dollar.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:47 amdetroitsuperfly sez:
Heh...that's information us Michiganders normally take for granted. ;)
Sometimes I forget that not everyone lives within sight of Canada.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:49 amWhy is Israel allowed nukes with no accountability?
Comment by Zimzone — September 21, 2007 @ 9:30 am
Once you have nukes, you don't account for them to anyone. That genie got out of the bottle a looong time ago.
Israel probably would not have survived w/ out nukes. I personally think the US and Britain made sure the Israelis got 'em just for this reason. Do you really think a new, and struggling, country can come up w/ something as complicated as a nuclear bomb in such a short lenght of time if no one helps them?
September 21st, 2007 at 10:49 amnot only THAT, but a "cntl - f" search
DID NOT EVEN TURN UP EDWARDS' NAME
in that wapo article...
chicken-shite coward, exlax, can't even post accurate information.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:52 am.
Hey, take it easy on Exley and his misquotes.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:53 amBesides being the constant antagonist, he's still steaming from the Mets blowing not 1, but 2 three run leads last night!
(You know I'm just giving you $hit, Ex, as my team is done. Now I have the opportunity to focus my attention on those 2-0 Lions! *cough* *cough* **spat**)
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September 21st, 2007 at 10:54 amwhy does nothing update until I post?
It wasnt an insult, the Loony, is a term used for the Canadian dollar.
Comment by detroitsuperfly — September 21, 2007 @ 10:47 am
I know the Loony is a term used for the Canadian dollar. I was partially joking, but it was also in the way the comment was phrased. "lowering the dollar to Canadian Loony STATUS".
You can say lower it to the VALUE of the Loony, and that's not an insult, but the STATUS? That infers it's a somehow a lesser currency, and then the bit about the Peso continues it. If OPEC goes off the US Dollar and over to the Euro, you'll see how much status the Dollar really has.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:55 amIn the first comprehensive account of Sunday’s shootout in Baghdad involving Blackwater contractors, the Iraqi Interior Ministry concluded the guards fired “an unprovoked barrage†on Iraqis in their cars in midday traffic. The report recommends that “the dozens of foreign security companies†in Iraq “should be replaced by Iraqi companies, and that a law that has given the companies immunity for years be scrapped.â€
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Wonderful. The Iraqis are wanting to take over their own security. I think this is wonderful news. Let's do it.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:56 amwhy does nothing update until I post?
Comment by whiteyfresh — September 21, 2007 @ 10:54 am
bartelbee and others have complained about that same problem...
send a message to TP, i guess, using the form at above right link...
use both ways!
i'm on a mac os10 and no problems...
September 21st, 2007 at 10:57 amsome have said firefox helps...
...
i’m on a mac os10 and no problems…
some have said firefox helps…
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I'm on a linux box with firefox, and yeah, no problems.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:58 amI see your point. IF OPEC goes over to the Euro? Its really a question of WHEN. The dollar is plummeting. With our spiraling GOP debt, there is no end in sight.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:58 amFunny how quiet Shakey got after we exposed his lie about his voting for the Constitution Party...
^_^
September 21st, 2007 at 10:59 amMornin Jake! a little to the Left,as usual. Sorry, TP really tickin me off today. I dont know why, but I can't refresh to read new posts?!?! nIt only updated the comments thread when I post a comment. Also, It seems like TP is freezing up, like the front page locks up but the comments keep going. Yesterday, I clicked on a story the frontpage said had 3 comments, and there were 72.
WTF TP?!?!?!
ANYHOO, I hope you are doing well today.
You like my new addition?
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September 21st, 2007 at 10:59 amthis morning on TODAY, maria? from cnbc was talking about the dollar's devaluing... she treated us to an account of her recent trip to europe and her husband's train ride, and the 2 drinks they had at the hotel bar...
well, i won't be heading off to europe anytime soon, i guess...
but i sure do feel bad for those that do... NOT.
September 21st, 2007 at 11:00 am...
whiteyfresh,
September 21st, 2007 at 11:00 amI got an email from Faiz yesterday. They're working on the glitches. For me, TP doesn't update AFTER I post. I have jump off line and then get back on to review any updates.
Will Mattel be apologizing to the 3 year old who has been sucking pure lead for the last 6 months?
Comment by Zimzone — September 21, 2007 @ 10:31 am
Only after the parents take them to court and sue the bejeesus outta them.
Of course, Mattel will probably try to force the case into Federal court, where the pace is much, much slower, and seek to deny the plaintiffs class action status, so they can beat each pair of parents up one at a time, and in the end, settle out of court and admit no wrong doing. Hey, it's the American Way!
**cue up Battle Hymn of the Republic**
Whatta country! The well being of corps matters more than the the well being of small children. Hmmm... corps... corpse... oh, the irony...
September 21st, 2007 at 11:01 amGood morning, whitey. ;)
What's your new addition?
Do you like mine?
September 21st, 2007 at 11:01 amdetroitsuperfly sez:
Exactly. The tipping point will be when China decides to dump U.S. currency. Our economy could never recover from such a blow.
September 21st, 2007 at 11:03 amI see your point.
Comment by detroitsuperfly — September 21, 2007 @ 10:58 am
Thank you, and I really was kidding in the first post, kind of.
September 21st, 2007 at 11:03 amHere is a little something that was missed. Looks like Blackwater is back in action.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070921/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq;_ylt=ArBqGlwDOfavNWtPcPFke6es0NUE
September 21st, 2007 at 11:03 amwhitey, Zooey,
Hello, do you like my hat?
September 21st, 2007 at 11:04 amkaty,
"For my actions, I apologize and accept full responsibility for my conduct.â€
Oh, well, then, by all means, let's let him go!
September 21st, 2007 at 11:05 amExactly. The tipping point will be when China decides to dump U.S. currency. Our economy could never recover from such a blow.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — September 21, 2007 @ 11:03 am
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Sorry to jump into the conversation, but also remember that King George has borrowed a ton of money from China to finance his adventures in Iraq. China is eventually going to want that paid back.
September 21st, 2007 at 11:07 am#129, DRxJ,
Please, I am asking you as a personal favor...Please do not bring up the New York Pathetic, Choking, @&#&#% Mets!!!!
Hey, I am rooting for your Lions...I have always had a soft spot for them....Great uniforms and they remind me of Thanksgiving...Go Lions!
September 21st, 2007 at 11:08 ampoooOOOOoop
September 21st, 2007 at 11:09 amExley the mets can't be doing worse then the Mariners, who after having a 3 game lead in the wild card, and 2 games behind the Angels for first place went 2 and 12 to completely lose out of any hope of post season play.
September 21st, 2007 at 11:10 amYou think the Mets are bad?
Look at all the all stars and stat leaders the Tigers have. They should be far and above 1st place in the AL central.
September 21st, 2007 at 11:10 amwoo-HOOO!!
LIONS ROCK!!!
...now if only they knew how to play football.....
September 21st, 2007 at 11:10 amExactly. The tipping point will be when China decides to dump U.S. currency. Our economy could never recover from such a blow.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — September 21, 2007 @ 11:03 am
There are other ways to beat a country other than militarily, and Bush might have handed his head on a platter, still smirking, to the Chinese w/ that one.
September 21st, 2007 at 11:11 amHow long will it be before Michelle Malkin isolates the culprits responsible for the anti-Rumsfeld petition at Stanford and then sics her rabid goon squad on them?
September 21st, 2007 at 11:11 amTMM,
The hat looks good on you -- so shiny....
I got my $ out of the market last week. I'm thinking it was a wise move.
Later, y'all. ;)
September 21st, 2007 at 11:14 amhrrrmmm...
posting to read..Hya Zooey! My new addition is below. I plan to nuture it until it grows ridiculously long....
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September 21st, 2007 at 11:15 amoops, not sure what nuture is, but I know how to nuRture..
September 21st, 2007 at 11:15 amStock Market...? I think I've heard of it...
September 21st, 2007 at 11:16 amThe Republic of Stupidity sez:
Not his head, TRoS...our heads.
He's going to be yukking it up down in Paraguay when all that sh!t hits the fan.
September 21st, 2007 at 11:20 am#124 Katy's post calling for Lerach's release because he apologized reminds me of a "The Simpson's" episode, "Home The Vigilante:"
BURGLAR: I sincerely regret any inconvenience I may have caused...
and although I have stolen your material goods... let me assure you that your dear town has stolen my heart.
CROWD: Aww!
SKINNER: Oh, he's so charming. -
BARNEY: Let's let him go!!
CROWD: Yeah!!!!
CHIEF WIGGUM: Oh, sorry, folks! I really hate to spoil this little love-in... but Mr. Malloy broke the law. And when you break the law, you gotta go to jail.
MAYOR QUIMBY: That reminds me. Here's your monthly kickback.
CHIEF WIGGUM: You just-- You couldn't have picked a worse time.
September 21st, 2007 at 11:20 amComment by Exley — September 21, 2007 @ 11:20 am
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As long as you support jail terms for ALL who break the law, regardless of political party...
http://www.beyonddelay.org/
September 21st, 2007 at 11:23 am#151, Krazny,
True, but at least the Mariners collapse came in August and you never had the division lead...The Mets current collapse in historic!
No team in the history of MLB has had a seven-and-a-half game division lead (which we did with just 17 games remaining) in September and then lost the division....The Mets are on the verge of doing just that....And last night's humiliating disaster may be something they cannot come from....
Sorry to be off-topic, folks
September 21st, 2007 at 11:25 amSince this new registration thing, I have to reboot my computer to get any new threads. Anyone else having that kinda of problem?
September 21st, 2007 at 11:32 am"Katy’s post calling for Lerach’s release"
Did I miss this? Or are you just making stuff up?
September 21st, 2007 at 11:33 amPost 124 says nothing about releasing him.
Or are you just full of it?
And go Indians!
September 21st, 2007 at 11:34 am#152, Detroitsuperfly...Believe me, I know how you feel:
From ESPN:
General manager Omar Minaya frequently says, "We knew this year was going to be tougher,"
but one scout flatly disagreed, saying, "that [Mets] team should be up by 20 games. No one should even be close at this point."
I agree with the scout!!!!
September 21st, 2007 at 11:37 amDERPA-DERPA
September 21st, 2007 at 11:37 amEek sorry Ex didn't realize it was that bad.
September 21st, 2007 at 11:51 amgumyo-jibble post
September 21st, 2007 at 11:51 amgrrrrrrrrr....
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September 21st, 2007 at 11:53 amso, is there anything after the daily 'Thinkfast' update on TP yet?
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September 21st, 2007 at 11:55 amThis pr!ck has all the money in the world to enrich his family and cronies but none for needy children...what an evil man.
September 21st, 2007 at 12:12 pmDonald Rumsfeld is a pathetic deluded old man that long ago outlived his usefulness to this country. I'm sure he'll do just fine though his fellow crooks and liars will see to that
September 21st, 2007 at 12:19 pmHe’s going to be yukking it up down in Paraguay when all that sh!t hits the fan.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — September 21, 2007 @ 11:20 am
I was wondering the other day if that's where Rove went - down South to set up "the Base"... that word, again...
September 21st, 2007 at 12:30 pmTechnical note: Seems like hitting the "Refresh" button lets you see the latest comments. Doesn't update the page. The only way to see what has been posted since the last posting is to input a message yourself.....(WHich is what I doing right now!)
September 21st, 2007 at 1:25 pm#170,
Oh, it's bad, Krazny...It is VERY bad.
September 21st, 2007 at 1:26 pm...
and once again, exlax proves it is a lowly L I A R.
...
thanks Wilco @ 11:33 am
September 21st, 2007 at 1:57 pm...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGH.
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September 21st, 2007 at 2:58 pmI now present you with a legitimate way for Dems to achieve one of their priorities - the redistribution of wealth from corporations / financial institutions to individuals and families:
Repeal the increased term of mortgages from 30 years to 20 years -
Dems should gradually reduce the length of the longest term mortgage from 30 years to 20 years by 6 months every year for 20 years, so as to have minimal impact on home prices, while increasing the savings rate and equity individuals and families have in their homes. No other single policy change will move money from corporations / financial institution into the pockets of individuals and families.
More than 35 years ago, mortgage terms were increased from 20 years to 30 years, as a short term "solution" to high home prices, but the policy backfired, raising home prices ever higher, while vastly diminishing the accrued equity in homes (killing the savings rate). No other policy has forced families to have two income earners as much as this one, and it should be gradually repealed.
September 21st, 2007 at 3:27 pmHey look, our favorite (or least) 40 year old virgin boy is in da howse!
He's got so much pent up frustration, he's posting the same garbage over and over.
Dude, I heard there's a stall in Minnesota that may help your DSBU problem.
September 21st, 2007 at 3:34 pmtap tap tap (yackity yack)
Although Yale (courtesy of the Kissyface connection in Connecticut) could easily move to the front of the line to land the George W. Bush Library, Harvard could also make a case for such a prestigious honor. But, now Stanford, with its connection to the Hoover Institution could also lay claim.
But W does come from a long line of New England bluebloods. As the only occupant of the Oval Office born in Connecticut; having gone to prep school in Andover, MA; to undergraduate school at Yale (CT, having been refused by the University of Texas) and graduate school at Harvard (MA); using his connections to avoid service in Vietnam deserting in the process; his fear of horses; and his affinity to riding bicycles it is absolutely beyond belief that the people of Texas buy the drivel that he is one of them--that is, unless what I've just described is what people in Texas have become.
September 21st, 2007 at 3:56 pm