Comments on: NY lawmakers threaten to punish Columbia over speech. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:14:57 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: wingnutjeff http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4091833 wingnutjeff Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:41:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4091833 So how many would let Osama Bin Laden speak at Columbia? Comment by ron — September 24, 2007 @ 5:37 pm I certainly would let him speak at Columbia, we'd have a better chance of detaining him and bringing him to justice under campus police jurisdiction. Ask Bushie if his good friend OBL is available for a booking. So how many would let Osama Bin Laden speak at Columbia?

Comment by ron — September 24, 2007 @ 5:37 pm

I certainly would let him speak at Columbia, we’d have a better chance of detaining him and bringing him to justice under campus police jurisdiction.

Ask Bushie if his good friend OBL is available for a booking.

]]> By: IraqCatastrophe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4091448 IraqCatastrophe Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:18:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4091448 Is it me or does anyone else not think that the Iranian President doesn't sound so crazy, or at least no crazier than our home-grown, usually right-wing, crazies? Ahmadinejad may be questioning the Holocaust (weird, for sure) but we've got at least three prominent politicians aspiring to be the Republican candidate for POTUS who deny the veracity of Evolution, for God's sake! Iran persecutes its gay citizens while our military simply denies they exist. We, along with our client state Israel, have a gazillion nuclear weapons and we're screeching about Iran possibly getting one. Why are Americans so stunningly hypocritical?? When we do it, it's good/wonderful/virtuous; when someone we don't like, or is an adversary, does it, it's evil/horrible/sick. Let's try to get back to judging people, even ourselves, by our actions, not by what political party we belong to, or what country we were born in. Is it me or does anyone else not think that the Iranian President doesn’t sound so crazy, or at least no crazier than our home-grown, usually right-wing, crazies? Ahmadinejad may be questioning the Holocaust (weird, for sure) but we’ve got at least three prominent politicians aspiring to be the Republican candidate for POTUS who deny the veracity of Evolution, for God’s sake! Iran persecutes its gay citizens while our military simply denies they exist. We, along with our client state Israel, have a gazillion nuclear weapons and we’re screeching about Iran possibly getting one. Why are Americans so stunningly hypocritical?? When we do it, it’s good/wonderful/virtuous; when someone we don’t like, or is an adversary, does it, it’s evil/horrible/sick. Let’s try to get back to judging people, even ourselves, by our actions, not by what political party we belong to, or what country we were born in.

]]> By: Pete Bogs http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4090392 Pete Bogs Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:17:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4090392 terrific! only the students will suffer... terrific! only the students will suffer…

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4090321 Gregor Samsa Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:23:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4090321 <i>There invitation was rescinded where too many liberal activist got involved- fact Comment by ron — September 25, 2007 @ 12:44 am</i> No government official got involved to threaten retaliation against the colleges that invited the Minutemen. And the co-founder of the Minutemen has been invited to talk, and was able to deliver his message at the MSU. <a href="http://www.mediamouse.org/features/042307minut.php" rel="nofollow">Fact.</a> There invitation was rescinded where too many liberal activist got involved- fact
Comment by ron — September 25, 2007 @ 12:44 am

No government official got involved to threaten retaliation against the colleges that invited the Minutemen.

And the co-founder of the Minutemen has been invited to talk, and was able to deliver his message at the MSU. Fact.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4090314 Gregor Samsa Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:13:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4090314 <i>REPORT: The Right Wing Domination Of Talk Radio And How To End It Comment by ron — September 25, 2007 @ 12:43 am</i> Are you having reading comprehension issues tonight? That report is about how to end the almost total control right-wing talk radio, not about shutting them down. The point is to offer more view points than we currently have. So, in your head, right-wing radio must have total domination or nothing, and there cannot be a healthy balance? What a weird world you live in... REPORT: The Right Wing Domination Of Talk Radio And How To End It
Comment by ron — September 25, 2007 @ 12:43 am

Are you having reading comprehension issues tonight?

That report is about how to end the almost total control right-wing talk radio, not about shutting them down. The point is to offer more view points than we currently have.

So, in your head, right-wing radio must have total domination or nothing, and there cannot be a healthy balance? What a weird world you live in…

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4090169 Gregor Samsa Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:34:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4090169 <i>My point was to show you that the iranian nutjob was met with open arms, any conservative is protested and attempts at violence towards them. Comment by ron — September 24, 2007 @ 10:39 pm</i> Er, there were protests outside the university. And Iran has already been threatened with violence, where were you when Pres Bush said that "all options are on the table"? <i>so why did the minutemen not get a chance?</i> I would expect security to be heightened when a foreign dignitary is on campus. <i>or why does this website want to shut down rt wing radio? is that free speech</i> I have no idea what in the world you are talking about. When has ThinkProgress stated they want to shut down any radio station? My point was to show you that the iranian nutjob was met with open arms, any conservative is protested and attempts at violence towards them.
Comment by ron — September 24, 2007 @ 10:39 pm

Er, there were protests outside the university.

And Iran has already been threatened with violence, where were you when Pres Bush said that “all options are on the table”?

so why did the minutemen not get a chance?

I would expect security to be heightened when a foreign dignitary is on campus.

or why does this website want to shut down rt wing radio? is that free speech

I have no idea what in the world you are talking about. When has ThinkProgress stated they want to shut down any radio station?

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4090079 Gregor Samsa Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:30:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4090079 <i>Comment by ron — September 24, 2007 @ 5:41 pm</i> You sort of missed the point of the comment you were replying to: As far as I know, no lawmaker has threatened to punish a college or university that invites Horowitz to speak. Comment by ron — September 24, 2007 @ 5:41 pm

You sort of missed the point of the comment you were replying to: As far as I know, no lawmaker has threatened to punish a college or university that invites Horowitz to speak.

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4089984 The Republic of Stupidity Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:48:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4089984 The liberal college isnt about freedom of ideas, its about freedom of ideas only if they meet their own ideology. Comment by ron — September 24, 2007 @ 5:41 pm Yeah, just like Free Republic... The liberal college isnt about freedom of ideas, its about freedom of ideas only if they meet their own ideology.

Comment by ron — September 24, 2007 @ 5:41 pm

Yeah, just like Free Republic…

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4089749 Marie Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:39:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4089749 Not funny, squeegeeboo. Not funny, squeegeeboo.

]]> By: Squegeeboo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4089727 Squegeeboo Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:35:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4089727 Marie <em>If we can’t have free discussion at an institution of learning, we are in one sorry, sorry state.</em> I think they were in NY, not NJ. So I guess I'm a little confused about your point. Marie
If we can’t have free discussion at an institution of learning, we are in one sorry, sorry state.

I think they were in NY, not NJ. So I guess I’m a little confused about your point.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4089713 Marie Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:30:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4089713 If we can't have free discussion at an institution of learning, we are in one sorry, sorry state. It makes no matter who the speaker, despot, leader is - we cannot operate in a bubble where we don't engage people with whom we disagree. This knee-jerk reaction is ignorance on display. If we forbade ignoramuses and dictators from giving speeches in America, we'd have to prevent Bush from giving another state of the union address. If we can’t have free discussion at an institution of learning, we are in one sorry, sorry state.
It makes no matter who the speaker, despot, leader is – we cannot operate in a bubble where we don’t engage people with whom we disagree.
This knee-jerk reaction is ignorance on display.
If we forbade ignoramuses and dictators from giving speeches in America, we’d have to prevent Bush from giving another state of the union address.

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4089686 Doc Rock Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:21:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4089686 With hold salaries from these idiot legislators! With hold salaries from these idiot legislators!

]]> By: had enough http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4089677 had enough Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:18:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4089677 <em>NY lawmakers: 'Not to mention unconstitutional'</em> What? And since when in the past 7 years has the constitution meant anything? I am sick to death of the war monger's hiding the truth in order to continue the drum beat to war. It is appalling we are not allowed discussion, must settle for lies and therefore continue to watch the ruination of our country and world. NY lawmakers: ‘Not to mention unconstitutional’

What? And since when in the past 7 years has the constitution meant anything?

I am sick to death of the war monger’s hiding the truth in order to continue the drum beat to war. It is appalling we are not allowed discussion, must settle for lies and therefore continue to watch the ruination of our country and world.

]]> By: impeachcheneythenbush http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4089672 impeachcheneythenbush Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:16:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4089672 Can you imagine Bush going to speak at an Iranian university? Can you imagine Bush going to speak at an Iranian university?

]]> By: Luis M http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4089640 Luis M Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:02:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4089640 <em>Squegee, I was being a little “1984″. But, yeah, you watch your ass. Heh. Comment by Juan C. — September 24, 2007 @ 4:58 pm</em> Everyone knows facts have a liberal bias... Squegee, I was being a little “1984″.
But, yeah, you watch your ass. Heh.
Comment by Juan C. — September 24, 2007 @ 4:58 pm

Everyone knows facts have a liberal bias…

]]> By: Oldfart http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4089630 Oldfart Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:59:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4089630 The LAW that was broken is THOU SHALT NOT ALLOW ANYONE ISRAEL DISAGREES WITH TO SPEAK IN NEW YORK. Get it thru your heads. This is not about anything but protecting the Jewish vote. If he had been speaking in, say, Atlanta, nothing would have been said except maybe by the Dixie Chicks. The LAW that was broken is THOU SHALT NOT ALLOW ANYONE ISRAEL DISAGREES WITH TO SPEAK IN NEW YORK. Get it thru your heads. This is not about anything but protecting the Jewish vote. If he had been speaking in, say, Atlanta, nothing would have been said except maybe by the Dixie Chicks.

]]> By: Juan C. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4089628 Juan C. Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:58:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4089628 Squegee, I was being a little "1984". But, yeah, you watch your ass. Heh. Squegee, I was being a little “1984″.

But, yeah, you watch your ass. Heh.

]]> By: sdunes http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4089613 sdunes Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:49:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4089613 So what law was broken exactly? NY lawmakers sound pretty vindictive. So what law was broken exactly?
NY lawmakers sound pretty vindictive.

]]> By: IgnoranceIsNotBliss http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4089611 IgnoranceIsNotBliss Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:48:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4089611 There is absolutely no reason why the University should be penalized for anything. Freedom of Speech. Expression of ideas. Aren't these reasons why we go to University in the first place? There is absolutely no reason why the University should be penalized for anything. Freedom of Speech. Expression of ideas. Aren’t these reasons why we go to University in the first place?

]]> By: Squegeeboo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4089603 Squegeeboo Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:45:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/lawmakers-threaten-to-punish-columbia-over-speech/#comment-4089603 Juan C. <em>Ban the troll in 43. Speaking without facts.</em> Woah, that gets us banned now? Man I'm in trouble. Juan C.
Ban the troll in 43.

Speaking without facts.

Woah, that gets us banned now? Man I’m in trouble.

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