Comments on: Maliki downplays Iran’s influence in Iraq. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:44:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4091437 bilbobaggins Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:15:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/#comment-4091437 <em>Why don’t you blame the troops, when they are the ones doing the ACTUAL killing? When a mob boss hires a hit man whose does the ACTUAL killing, do you not blame the hit man also?</em> Sorry, but your analysis is full of holes. There is one big difference. The soldier enlists in the military and from that day on is honor bound to follow the orders of their commanders. Whereas with a hit man and the mob boss, the hit man is free to walk away or is free to not take the assignment. Our soldiers don't have that kind of freedom. BTW, I'm sure the righties would be delighted to seeing you compare our military brass to mob bosses. Why don’t you blame the troops, when they are the ones doing the ACTUAL killing?
When a mob boss hires a hit man whose does the ACTUAL killing, do you not blame the hit man also?

Sorry, but your analysis is full of holes. There is one big difference. The soldier enlists in the military and from that day on is honor bound to follow the orders of their commanders. Whereas with a hit man and the mob boss, the hit man is free to walk away or is free to not take the assignment. Our soldiers don’t have that kind of freedom.

BTW, I’m sure the righties would be delighted to seeing you compare our military brass to mob bosses.

]]> By: Spudge Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4091430 Spudge Boy Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:11:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/#comment-4091430 <blockquote>this picture is just a week old..</blockquote> Sorry Chocolate Jesus, but this picture is more than a week old. I blogged about the Iran/Iraq partnership back on Sept 12, 2006 which is when the picture was taken. <a href="http://spudgeboy.blogspot.com/2006/09/iran-and-iraqmaking-like-friends.html" rel="nofollow">Iran and Iraq......Making Like Friends</a> But, your point is still valid. Iran and Iraq are buddies.

this picture is just a week old..

Sorry Chocolate Jesus, but this picture is more than a week old. I blogged about the Iran/Iraq partnership back on Sept 12, 2006 which is when the picture was taken.

Iran and Iraq……Making Like Friends

But, your point is still valid. Iran and Iraq are buddies.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4091426 bilbobaggins Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:08:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/#comment-4091426 You know, I would really like to see Congress make Bush PROVE that Iran is meddling in Iraq. So far, no one has seen any proof. The only proof we have is what our government tells us and we all know how reliable that is! And why aren't we condemning Saudi Arabia for funneling all that money to the Sunni insurgents? They are killing Americans too. Just because Saudi Arabia didn't actually give them the weapons, they are still guilty by giving them the money to buy weapons. And the sad thing about it is that they are probably buying American weapons on the black market. You know, I would really like to see Congress make Bush PROVE that Iran is meddling in Iraq. So far, no one has seen any proof. The only proof we have is what our government tells us and we all know how reliable that is!

And why aren’t we condemning Saudi Arabia for funneling all that money to the Sunni insurgents? They are killing Americans too. Just because Saudi Arabia didn’t actually give them the weapons, they are still guilty by giving them the money to buy weapons. And the sad thing about it is that they are probably buying American weapons on the black market.

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4091420 Doc Rock Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:07:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/#comment-4091420 Bush with fingers in his ears, "I'm ignoring, uh, I can't hear you!" Don't tell the Bushies what they don't wanna hear. You're already targeted for replacement, Nouri. Bush with fingers in his ears, “I’m ignoring, uh, I can’t hear you!”

Don’t tell the Bushies what they don’t wanna hear. You’re already targeted for replacement, Nouri.

]]> By: Badger http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4091401 Badger Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:54:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/#comment-4091401 the insurgents in Iraq have more US made weapons than our own troops do. From Mondays Newshour on PBS: Talking about the M-16, which our troops use in Iraq.... They're right exactly where they were when we gave them the M-16 in 1960. They haven't advanced an inch. Meanwhile, the competition, ...., the Soviet-designed automatic Kalashnikov AK-47, is in its third generation, as the AK-74. The M-16, it turns out, is still plagued with problems it experienced from the outset. A finicky device, it has jammed from the jungles of Vietnam to the deserts of Iraq, the suburbs of northern Virginia. So the Kalashnikov is the weapon of choice by insurgents in Iraq. As the Viet Nam War era saying goes...Kalashnikov "fires when filthy" the insurgents in Iraq have more US made weapons than our own troops do.

From Mondays Newshour on PBS:

Talking about the M-16, which our troops use in Iraq….

They’re right exactly where they were when we gave them the M-16 in 1960. They haven’t advanced an inch.
Meanwhile, the competition, …., the Soviet-designed automatic Kalashnikov AK-47, is in its third generation, as the AK-74.
The M-16, it turns out, is still plagued with problems it experienced from the outset. A finicky device, it has jammed from the jungles of Vietnam to the deserts of Iraq, the suburbs of northern Virginia.

So the Kalashnikov is the weapon of choice by insurgents in Iraq. As the Viet Nam War era saying goes…Kalashnikov “fires when filthy”

]]> By: impeachcheneythenbush http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4091391 impeachcheneythenbush Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:40:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/#comment-4091391 “we can finds friends elsewhere” http://freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=50171 hmmm.. so if its not iran, who is he looking to buddy up with.. Comment by Chocolate Jesus — September 25, 2007 @ 7:06 pm Try China and Russia. “we can finds friends elsewhere”

http://freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=50171

hmmm.. so if its not iran, who is he looking to buddy up with..

Comment by Chocolate Jesus — September 25, 2007 @ 7:06 pm

Try China and Russia.

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4091364 Chocolate Jesus Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:08:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/#comment-4091364 >And they probably paid less for them > than you and I did with our tax dollars. Probably... Blackwater has to get thier markup from somewhere...nice to know that Blackwater IS giving material support to a terrorist group...because our government says they are..and we all know our government wouldnt lie about something as important as TERROOR TERROOOOR TERRROOOOOORRRR! >And they probably paid less for them
> than you and I did with our tax dollars.

Probably… Blackwater has to get thier markup from somewhere…nice to know that Blackwater IS giving material support to a terrorist group…because our government says they are..and we all know our government wouldnt lie about something as important as

TERROOR

TERROOOOR

TERRROOOOOORRRR!

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4091362 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:07:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/#comment-4091362 Criticalthinker: "Do you think that George Bush could commit his crimes against humanity without troops who KNOWINGLY invaded a country that did not nor was in the process of attcking us? Do you also not blame the troops on the other side, and only blame the leaders?" Troops don't make decisions. They follow orders. And, it's an awful lot harder than people think for a soldier to even contemplate NOT following an order because he thinks it's unconstitutional. No, the responsibility for the carnage of this war is right there in Bush's lap. It's his baby. Criticalthinker: “Do you think that George Bush could commit his crimes against humanity without troops who KNOWINGLY invaded a country that did not nor was in the process of attcking us?

Do you also not blame the troops on the other side, and only blame the leaders?”

Troops don’t make decisions. They follow orders. And, it’s an awful lot harder than people think for a soldier to even contemplate NOT following an order because he thinks it’s unconstitutional. No, the responsibility for the carnage of this war is right there in Bush’s lap. It’s his baby.

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4091361 Chocolate Jesus Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:06:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/#comment-4091361 "we can finds friends elsewhere" http://freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=50171 hmmm.. so if its not iran, who is he looking to buddy up with.. “we can finds friends elsewhere”

http://freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=50171

hmmm.. so if its not iran, who is he looking to buddy up with..

]]> By: Clyde the Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4091359 Clyde the Ripper Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:03:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/#comment-4091359 There is no longer a need for Iranian weapons to flow into Iraq. Bushco has a corner on the market. I will wager my usual odds ($20 to a glass of warm pee) that the insurgents in Iraq have more US made weapons than our own troops do. And they probably paid less for them than you and I did with our tax dollars. There is no longer a need for Iranian weapons to flow into Iraq. Bushco has a corner on the market. I will wager my usual odds ($20 to a glass of warm pee) that the insurgents in Iraq have more US made weapons than our own troops do. And they probably paid less for them than you and I did with our tax dollars.

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4091358 Chocolate Jesus Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:03:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/#comment-4091358 http://www.islamicmediacity.com/cms_files/news_images/1190391250.jpg this picture is just a week old.. I'm sure they were just meeting to discuss Iran's waning influence...has blackwater left like maliki said they should yet? http://www.islamicmediacity.com/cms_files/news_images/1190391250.jpg

this picture is just a week old.. I’m sure they were just meeting to discuss Iran’s waning influence…has blackwater left like maliki said they should yet?

]]> By: Zappatero http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4091357 Zappatero Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:01:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/#comment-4091357 If Iran was a real problem, Patreaus would have asked Bush for thousands of troops to <strong>secure the border</strong>. Bush would have given them no questions asked. Unfortunately it's just a political prop being used by both, with our guys dying in the meantime. If Iran was a real problem, Patreaus would have asked Bush for thousands of troops to secure the border. Bush would have given them no questions asked.

Unfortunately it’s just a political prop being used by both, with our guys dying in the meantime.

]]> By: Fan of Man http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4091356 Fan of Man Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:51:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/#comment-4091356 our troops, who are TERRORIZING iraqis are the terrorists... i dont blame them, i blame chimpco. our troops, who are TERRORIZING iraqis are the terrorists… i dont blame them, i blame chimpco.

]]> By: StratRat http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4091355 StratRat Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:50:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/maliki-downplays-irans-influence-in-iraq/#comment-4091355 He's just the elected leader of Iraq. Why would we believe him? Anybody who thinks the Iraqis are in control of their own destiny are deluded. What happened to all those purple fingers, anyway. What were the elections for? What was the 'surge' supposed to accomplish? Lots of questions, few answers. He’s just the elected leader of Iraq. Why would we believe him?
Anybody who thinks the Iraqis are in control of their own destiny are deluded. What happened to all those purple fingers, anyway. What were the elections for? What was the ’surge’ supposed to accomplish?
Lots of questions, few answers.

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