Comments on: Verizon’s ‘Controversial And Unsavory’ Record http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:19:00 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Kahoneez http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4094570 Kahoneez Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:22:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4094570 Notice how the FACT companies are spying for NSA, allowing them to access their system is not being discussed in the media , it's not even an issue because the so called " News" media don't care if our rights are being violated . And NOBODY should be doing business with these gangsters , NOBODY , so encourage everybody you know to drop SPYRIZON , AT&T and the rest and to blatantly refuse service to NARAL , purely to pander to the right, makes me think, WHAT else are these corporate fascist doing . WHAT ELSE ? Notice how the FACT companies are spying for NSA, allowing them to access their system is not being discussed in the media , it’s not even an issue because the so called ” News” media don’t care if our rights are being violated . And NOBODY should be doing business with these gangsters , NOBODY , so encourage everybody you know to drop SPYRIZON , AT&T and the rest and to blatantly refuse service to NARAL , purely to pander to the right, makes me think, WHAT else are these corporate fascist doing . WHAT ELSE ?

]]> By: danaj33 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4094302 danaj33 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:45:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4094302 #11 Here here! I just sent a blasting email to the president of Verizon (thanks to #3) and I'm pulling out of my contract. I've been with them since my first mobile phone. DAMN! #11

Here here! I just sent a blasting email to the president of Verizon (thanks to #3) and I’m pulling out of my contract. I’ve been with them since my first mobile phone.

DAMN!

]]> By: Arne Langsetmo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4094019 Arne Langsetmo Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:33:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4094019 #15 Leftside Annie: <i>Well, crap. They all claim they’ve done nothing wrong or unlawful…then if that’s true, then why the hell do they need a blanket immunity?</i> In case they did anything <i>illegal</i>. Cheers, #15 Leftside Annie:

Well, crap. They all claim they’ve done nothing wrong or unlawful…then if that’s true, then why the hell do they need a blanket immunity?

In case they did anything illegal.

Cheers,

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4093926 Leftside Annie Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:48:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4093926 Well, crap. They all claim they've done nothing wrong or unlawful...then if that's true, then why the hell do they need a blanket immunity? $%%$^$^!!! Well, crap. They all claim they’ve done nothing wrong or unlawful…then if that’s true, then why the hell do they need a blanket immunity?

$%%$^$^!!!

]]> By: Arne Langsetmo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4093913 Arne Langsetmo Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:40:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4093913 #8 Xisithrus: <i>Actually, much of the telecommunications surveillance falls under CALEA be it ATT, Verizon, t-mobile or whatever.</i> CALEA requires a wiretap warrant (Title III warrant) for "call content" (voice) or a pen-register/trap'n'trace court order for "call data" (who called who when). These require specific "targets" to be named <i>in the court order</i>. You can't just ask for all telco records to be turned over <i>en masse</i>. All carriers (and ISPs now) must comply with CALEA or be subject to penalties if they can't comply when presented with a warrant. Cheers, #8 Xisithrus:

Actually, much of the telecommunications surveillance falls under CALEA be it ATT, Verizon, t-mobile or whatever.

CALEA requires a wiretap warrant (Title III warrant) for “call content” (voice) or a pen-register/trap’n'trace court order for “call data” (who called who when). These require specific “targets” to be named in the court order. You can’t just ask for all telco records to be turned over en masse.

All carriers (and ISPs now) must comply with CALEA or be subject to penalties if they can’t comply when presented with a warrant.

Cheers,

]]> By: Yankeluh http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4093875 Yankeluh Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:18:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4093875 I received this email from a Verizon area manager a few minutes ago: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE September 27, 2007 MEDIA CONTACT: Jeffrey Nelson Verizon Wireless 908.559.7519 Jeffrey.Nelson@verizonwireless.com VERIZON WIRELESS STATEMENT ON TEXT MESSAGING BASKING RIDGE, N.J. – On Wednesday, September 26, Verizon Wireless received a letter from NARAL regarding the company’s policy on text messaging. The following statement may be attributed to Jeffrey Nelson, spokesperson for Verizon Wireless. “The decision to not allow text messaging on an important, though sensitive, public policy issue was incorrect, and we have fixed the process that led to this isolated incident. “Upon learning about this situation, senior Verizon Wireless executives immediately reviewed the decision and determined it was an incorrect interpretation of a dusty internal policy. That policy, developed before text messaging protections such as spam filters adequately protected customers from unwanted messages, was designed to ward against communications such as anonymous hate messaging and adult materials sent to children. “Verizon Wireless is proud to provide services such as text messaging, which are being harnessed by organizations and individuals communicating their diverse opinions about issues and topics. We have great respect for this free flow of ideas and will continue to protect the ability to communicate broadly through our messaging service I received this email from a Verizon area manager a few minutes ago:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

September 27, 2007

MEDIA CONTACT:

Jeffrey Nelson

Verizon Wireless

908.559.7519

Jeffrey.Nelson@verizonwireless.com

VERIZON WIRELESS STATEMENT ON TEXT MESSAGING

BASKING RIDGE, N.J. – On Wednesday, September 26, Verizon Wireless received a letter from NARAL regarding the company’s policy on text messaging. The following statement may be attributed to Jeffrey Nelson, spokesperson for Verizon Wireless.

“The decision to not allow text messaging on an important, though sensitive, public policy issue was incorrect, and we have fixed the process that led to this isolated incident.

“Upon learning about this situation, senior Verizon Wireless executives immediately reviewed the decision and determined it was an incorrect interpretation of a dusty internal policy. That policy, developed before text messaging protections such as spam filters adequately protected customers from unwanted messages, was designed to ward against communications such as anonymous hate messaging and adult materials sent to children.

“Verizon Wireless is proud to provide services such as text messaging, which are being harnessed by organizations and individuals communicating their diverse opinions about issues and topics. We have great respect for this free flow of ideas and will continue to protect the ability to communicate broadly through our messaging service

]]> By: The Shadow http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4093869 The Shadow Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:15:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4093869 This is exactly why those Rightwing idiots need to stop voting for Republicans. Think for yourself. What country in history spyed on it's people? That's right, the Soviet Union. We spent trillions of dollars to oppose the Soviet Union to end up becoming that which our soldiers fought and died for. I've said for years that the rightwing in this country remind me of the brownshirts who supported Hitler. They didn't question his abuse of Jews and it led to that Country becoming supporters of genicide. We are on the brink of become a dictatorship under Rudy and the Republicans. Wake up and get your friend out to Vote Democratic. This is exactly why those Rightwing idiots need to stop voting for Republicans. Think for yourself. What country in history spyed on it’s people? That’s right, the Soviet Union. We spent trillions of dollars to oppose the Soviet Union to end up becoming that which our soldiers fought and died for. I’ve said for years that the rightwing in this country remind me of the brownshirts who supported Hitler. They didn’t question his abuse of Jews and it led to that Country becoming supporters of genicide. We are on the brink of become a dictatorship under Rudy and the Republicans. Wake up and get your friend out to Vote Democratic.

]]> By: The Shadow http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4093860 The Shadow Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:11:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4093860 I am a a verizon customer and I had no idea they were in bed with the government. But I will soon be leaving them to join another cell phone provider. I urge all readers to do the same. It's about time Verizon learned a lesson. I don't pay them to spy on me. Dump Verizon and join someone who doesn't spy on us. I am a a verizon customer and I had no idea they were in bed with the government. But I will soon be leaving them to join another cell phone provider. I urge all readers to do the same. It’s about time Verizon learned a lesson. I don’t pay them to spy on me. Dump Verizon and join someone who doesn’t spy on us.

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4093851 tombaker Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:07:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4093851 I live in WA state - can anyone recommend a wireless company that's not buried it's nose in Righty's ass - my contract with AT&Spyonu is coming to term, and I sure as hell won't be switching to Verizon. I live in WA state – can anyone recommend a wireless company that’s not buried it’s nose in Righty’s ass – my contract with AT&Spyonu is coming to term, and I sure as hell won’t be switching to Verizon.

]]> By: Xisithrus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4093795 Xisithrus Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:43:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4093795 As far as blocking text goes thats just not right, I mean, they, telecomm/ISP cant even block email spammers who consume gobs of bandwidth that falls on the recipient, you and me, to filter out. As far as blocking text goes thats just not right, I mean, they, telecomm/ISP cant even block email spammers who consume gobs of bandwidth that falls on the recipient, you and me, to filter out.

]]> By: Xisithrus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4093783 Xisithrus Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:37:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4093783 Actually, much of the telecommunications surveillance falls under CALEA be it ATT, Verizon, t-mobile or whatever. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act Actually, much of the telecommunications surveillance falls under CALEA be it ATT, Verizon, t-mobile or whatever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4093745 RUCerious Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:14:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4093745 Another BushItCo corporate enabler. I was considering moving my cell service from t-Mobile to Verizon, but not now. Bastards. Another BushItCo corporate enabler.
I was considering moving my cell service from t-Mobile to Verizon, but not now. Bastards.

]]> By: A Patriot Acting http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4093741 A Patriot Acting Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:13:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4093741 "Before proceeding"... "Congress may want to take a closer look to determine whether" this Administration's " “dusty” record merits rewarding them with the public’s trust." There, that's better! “Before proceeding”… “Congress may want to take a closer look to determine whether” this Administration’s ” “dusty” record merits rewarding them with the public’s trust.”
There, that’s better!

]]> By: Picklee http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4093735 Picklee Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:05:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4093735 Verizon needs to get their act together or they'll end up looking like Larry Craig: an indecisive, babbling idiot/liar, that can't even stick to their own immoral stories like the rest of the Right does. Props for The NYT. =D Verizon needs to get their act together or they’ll end up looking like Larry Craig: an indecisive, babbling idiot/liar, that can’t even stick to their own immoral stories like the rest of the Right does.

Props for The NYT. =D

]]> By: linda http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4093734 linda Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:04:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4093734 actually, if what i read is true -- that the naral service is opt in -- then the verizon spokesman deliberately mislead the nyt reporter when he threw out the bs about spam, etc. and the reporter was too clueless to follow up. what a surprise. actually, if what i read is true — that the naral service is opt in — then the verizon spokesman deliberately mislead the nyt reporter when he threw out the bs about spam, etc. and the reporter was too clueless to follow up.

what a surprise.

]]> By: rastaman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4093733 rastaman Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:03:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4093733 Ivan G. Seidenberg Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Verizon Ivan.G.Seidenberg@verizon.com Ivan G. Seidenberg
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Verizon

Ivan.G.Seidenberg@verizon.com

]]> By: Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4093732 Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:03:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4093732 Very-zone: seems to be part of the same corporate mentality that has given us: Bush, nine-eleven, Diebold, Enron, Iraq, Blackwater, Halliburton, Social Security "reform" i.e., destruction by privatization, the busybodying of poor Terri Shivao (sic), napalming of Fallujah, et al ad nauseum... Very-zone: seems to be part of the same corporate mentality that has given us: Bush, nine-eleven, Diebold, Enron, Iraq, Blackwater, Halliburton, Social Security “reform” i.e., destruction by privatization, the busybodying of poor Terri Shivao (sic), napalming of Fallujah, et al ad nauseum…

]]> By: Menehune http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-4093714 Menehune Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:48:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/dusty-verizon/#comment-4093714 Verizon: We never stop spying on you Verizon Wireless: The NSA can hear you now Verizon:
We never stop spying on you

Verizon Wireless:
The NSA can hear you now

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