ThinkFast: September 27, 2007
ThinkFast: September 27, 2007
During his Senate testimony, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said that despite his “intent” to move towards closing Guantanamo Bay, he has run “into several obstacles put up by lawyers within the executive branch.”
Gates also asked Congress yesterday for “an additional $42.3 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan,” bringing the total request for 2008 to $190 billion — “the largest single-year total for the wars so far.”
A federal judge ruled yesterday that “two provisions of the USA Patriot Act are unconstitutional” because they allowed federal surveillance and searches of Americans without demonstrating probable cause.
Verizon Wireless is refusing to allow Naral Pro-Choice America “to make Verizon’s mobile network available for a text-message program,” claiming it has “the right to block ‘controversial or unsavory‘ text messages.”
3,801: the number of American soldiers who have died in Iraq as of today. One of the most recent casualties, Sgt. Zachary Tomczak, 24, of Huron, Okla., was on his fourth tour of duty in Iraq.
Yesterday kicked off the third annual Clinton Global Initiative, drawing more than 50 current and former world leaders and 1,300 other attendees. Commitments included “150 million to provide health services to 30 million women and children” and $2.4 billion for a Florida clean energy program. Make your own commitment HERE and follow the event’s activities at the CGI blog.
Insurgents in Iraq staged six car bombings across the country yesterday, killing at least 30 people and wounding dozens. “We have seen an upturn in levels of violence in the last few days,” said Brig. Gen. Kevin J. Bergner.
“Seven months after a major investigation spelt out Europe’s involvement in a murky U.S. torture and kidnapping programme, the EU’s governments have claimed they are powerless to prevent such human rights abuses in the future.”
And finally: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and his protege, columnist Armstrong Williams, are bonded by “storms” in their lives. “For Thomas, it was [his] contentious confirmation process. For Williams, it was his government contract promoting President Bush’s No Child Left Behind Act, which triggered a Justice Department investigation.” “That is a bond for us,” says Williams.
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we have a very sick country…. is there a doctor in the house?
September 27th, 2007 at 9:04 am“A federal judge ruled yesterday that “two provisions of the USA Patriot Act are unconstitutional†because they allowed federal surveillance and searches of Americans without demonstrating probable cause.”
Great — a federal judge (one of the few not bought and paid for by the current administration) has ruled what we already knew. So when it gets to the Supreme Court, what do you think will happen? The Bush Five on the court will come up with a creative interpretation of the constitution that says the fourth amendment applies only when the president says it does.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:06 amHoorah Federal Judges standing up for the Constitution. When I read that on CNN this morning I was very happy.
~Sean
September 27th, 2007 at 9:06 amVerizon Wireless is refusing to allow Naral Pro-Choice America “to make Verizon’s mobile network available for a text-message program,†claiming it has “the right to block ‘controversial or unsavory‘ text messages.â€
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I suppose that, as a private company, Verizon can do whatever it wants. Of course, now that Verizon has declared that it can decide what text messages can and cannot be sent on their network, their customers may choose to switch to a less intrusive and judgmental wireless company. Such is the way of free enterprise.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:09 amA federal judge ruled yesterday that “two provisions of the USA Patriot Act are unconstitutional†because they allowed federal surveillance and searches of Americans without demonstrating probable cause.
Finally some sanity which results in good news. Now Bush will find one of his sycophant judges to take the case to on appeal and that “activist judge” will overrule the sane job.
#1 – I agree totally. This has become a very sick country and will stay that way until the outrage of the people becomes so loud that the people running this country can’t help but hear.
That’s why I recommend that every Democrat who is disgusted with the spinelessness of our Democratic leaders register as an Independent. Not necessarily permanently, just long enough to send a very loud message to the Democratic party. Right now the Democrats leading Congress don’t look a hell of a lot different than the Republics.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:09 am“Insurgents in Iraq staged six car bombings across the country yesterday, killing at least 30 people and wounding dozens. “We have seen an upturn in levels of violence in the last few days,†said Brig. Gen. Kevin J. Bergner.”
Oh, but this doesn’t count because car bombings don’t count — right? Therefore, this “upturn” in violence doesn’t exist, and the 30 dead aren’t really dead.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:11 amsarc/off
“Seven months after a major investigation spelt out Europe’s involvement in a murky U.S. torture and kidnapping programme, the EU’s governments have claimed they are powerless to prevent such human rights abuses in the future.â€
Oh really, the word “no” doesn’t exist in their languages? Or is it that they are being blackmailed by Bully Boy Bush. It is beyond me how such a moron can wield so much power over so many.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:14 amFor Williams, it was his government contract promoting President Bush’s No Child Left Behind Act, which triggered a Justice Department investigation.†“That is a bond for us,†says Williams.
That’s so sweet. Two creeps bonding over creepy behavior.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:16 amLets hope this becomes a trend.
Will the “progressives†hold their own responsible for their participation. Most likely not.
Comment by Vendetta
This makes absolutely no sense. What the fu(k are you talking about?
In general the progressives do hold their own responsible for what they do, unlike the Republics who never do.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:17 amVerizon Wireless is refusing to allow Naral Pro-Choice America “to make Verizon’s mobile network available for a text-message program,†claiming it has “the right to block ‘controversial or unsavory‘ text messages.â€
They are a private company, so I would assume they do have the right. Unless theres some sort of public airwaves counter argument.
the EU’s governments have claimed they are powerless
September 27th, 2007 at 9:20 amSo France controls the continent now?
I had Verizon wireless until yesterday.
Here’s a sample text message that Verizon has deemed unsavory:
Pretty outrageous, eh?
Subscribers have to opt in to receive text alerts. It’s not like these messages just appear out of nowhere without your permission. So, it’s a free market, Verizon can do what they like, and I’ll choose to spend my money on another carrier.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:27 amJeez, a 24-yr-old on his 4th tour in Iraq. What are we doing to our kids?
September 27th, 2007 at 9:30 amGood Morning, Proud Liberals:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07269/820479-35.stm
September 27th, 2007 at 9:32 amSo much for the European Convention on Human Rights.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:37 amGood Morning, Proud Liberals:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07269/820479-35.stm
Comment by helenahandbasket
Thanks for the link. I read the article and it made me feel so much better. I am so angry at the Democrats right now it is making my head hurt. But I am still a liberal and proud of it. I have never hidden my liberal leanings. And just because I have revoked my membership in the Democratic party does not mean I don’t support liberal causes. I just can’t stomach, right now, being a member of a party that is so spineless. I will be working fervently to elect liberal/progressive candidates to replace the spineless Democrats out there.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:40 amOne man has 4 tours in Iraq versus hundreds of thousands of ‘Republican chickenshit chickenhawks’ cowering under Bush’s chickenshit wing…GOP sucks.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:41 am“Verizon Wireless is refusing to allow Naral Pro-Choice America “to make Verizon’s mobile network available for a text-message program,†claiming it has “the right to block ‘controversial or unsavory‘ text messages.—
WHOA, Hold up a bit!
How does Verizon Wireless know the text-message is “controversial or unsavory”??? Do they have the right to read our text-messages??? Do they claim the right to listen to our phone conversations too???
September 27th, 2007 at 9:42 am“A federal judge ruled yesterday that “two provisions of the USA Patriot Act are unconstitutional†because they allowed federal surveillance and searches of Americans without demonstrating probable cause.”
At least some of our judges are actually upholding the Constitution they swore to uphold
TP:
-why no posts regarding Burma?
-also, a very interesting article regarding our most “liberal” Supreme Court justice:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/23/magazine/23stevens-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
September 27th, 2007 at 9:48 amPeter C
How does Verizon Wireless know the text-message is “controversial or unsavory�?? Do they have the right to read our text-messages??? Do they claim the right to listen to our phone conversations too???
Reading comprehension is your friend. This is a text message ‘Program’. That means that a company has made a deal with Verizon to send text messages out to customers as a way of advertising, or as a PSA, or any other reason that batch text messages would be sent to Verizon customers.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:53 amReading comprehension is your friend.
Sorry, I just realized that comes off rather jerkish. Wasn’t the intent.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:54 amBush balks at $22 million for healthcare for our children, repair of our physically-deteriorating infrastructure and yet has the brass cajones to pimp Gates to ask for an additional $42.3 Billion to maim & destroy in these ridiculous wars?
If this isn’t the case of “throwing good money after bad”, I don’t know what is!
It’s certainly a case of “contorted priorities” with the sadists putting murder & destruction before the health and welfare of our children.
When you fail to tend to your “own backyard”, we all know what happens next…..
September 27th, 2007 at 9:57 amO. HairyApe: Because we know the highlighting of Bush of the repression of the demonstrators is simply his new PR method of showing what will happen to people who demonstrate against him in this country. He’s so amazingly transparent these days that a strong wind could blow him to kingdom come in a flash.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:58 amO. Bigfoot
Because they havn’t figured out how to link the violence in Myanmar/Burma to George W. Bush, Republicans, and the “neoconsâ€â€¦â€¦.yet.
As stupid of a way of phrasing it as that is. I think Bigfoot may be right. My general perception of TP is that they try to post mainly news that affects, or is directly caused by America. So Iraq/Afghanistan gets a lot of play. Israel/Palestine, just the occasional reference.
Additionally, they seem to ignore a lot of single occurrence issues, such as the Jena 6, until they can be used as a way of pointing out a larger societal issue that TP wants to highlight.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:59 amBush’s PR campaign of “FEAR” is no longer working since it’s now been proven that he fabricated the threat against Washington DC just to amp up the fervor for his illegal spy game. There’s no hope for this liar.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:59 amhelenahandbasket; great link, many thanx.
Bush sez: “3801 US dead = 3801 commas.”
September 27th, 2007 at 10:03 amKilled on his FOURTH tour of duty?
I’ve said it before and I’m saying it again, they’re just going to keep sending these poor bastards back again and again until they die on the battlefield before they’ll admit error and bring them home.
September 27th, 2007 at 10:13 amO. Bigfoot
Gee, can you still stand or sit up straight after twisting around like that? This website exists to primarily bash Bush, Republicans, and what they call “neoconsâ€. If the story can’t be spun, no matter how wildly, in a manner that supports that goal, the story does not exist.
This site exists (IMO) to push TPs version of the ‘liberal agenda’ as such, they are going to be harsh to those people who fight against that agenda, which means, generally speaking, Republicans. This makes people like Bush natural targets due to their high profile and constant F ups. While it makes most democrats, natural non-targets, because of thinking along the lines of “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” for the D’s that would otherwise be attacked more by TP.
My point still stands, untwisted.
September 27th, 2007 at 10:13 amGee, can you still stand or sit up straight after twisting around like that? This website exists to primarily bash Bush, Republicans, and what they call “neoconsâ€. If the story can’t be spun, no matter how wildly, in a manner that supports that goal, the story does not exist.
In TP’s world, (which includes the website and it’s adoring base of fellow travelers) no Republican can every do right, but Democrats are right most of the time, especially when they are directly fighting Republicans.
(Except for frauds like Bill Clinton: He can NEVER do wrong in TP’s world.)
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 27, 2007 @ 10:09 am
You mean to say the blog has an agenda? Horrors!
As usual, someone took the time to actually explain things to you and you failed to comprehend a word of it because of your own blinkers — and yet you freely accuse the blog and the “fellow travelers” (ooooh, shades of the 50s) of being blinkered.
Get the plank out of your eye, Bigfoot, before you judge anyone else.
September 27th, 2007 at 10:14 amDid someone call for a doctor?
-Dr. Jack Kevorkian
September 27th, 2007 at 10:23 amI’ve seen several Republicans do the right thing. Hagel, Lugar and on occasion Specter have shown to put the country first
September 27th, 2007 at 10:31 am(Except for frauds like Bill Clinton: He can NEVER do wrong in TP’s world.)
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 27, 2007 @ 10:09 am
Damn… one subject Li’l Footie actually has expertise in… bein’ a FRAUD!!!
THIS POSTER IS A PHONY!
September 27th, 2007 at 10:40 amBigfoot, I usually have coffee in the morning.
It appears that Kool-Aid is your favorite drink.
There are people that think Bush is the destroying America one bit at a time. The man is a jinx. He was in office when the worst attack on America ever occurred and the perpetrators of said crime are STILL on the prowl.
Where is Osama Bin Laden? Why did Bush allow Bin Laden’s family to leave America without questioning them?
China is building their military stronger using US capital that has been poured into China by the traitorous Bush Administration.
Russia is flush with oil money and has begun renewing cold war rhetoric and has begun bombing flights again.
Bush and you and your ilk are destroying liberty at home and promoting America hating abroad.
Even a conservative businessman like Donald Trump said he travels the world and has never seen America held in such low regard.
So keep up with your Bush induced fantasies. Keep believing the Bush spin…Like when he told Pat Robertson “no Americans will die in Iraq”. Like when he told the Spanish Prime Minister Aznar that the US will attack Irag “but we will not destroy anything”. Just like when Bush said the GOP will retain the House and Senate in ‘06.
Keep believing that it is anyone but Bush and your ilk that are dismantling this once great nation.
Keep on fu*king believing.
-GSD
-GSD
September 27th, 2007 at 10:45 amDid someone call for me?-
reply by Dr. Death
September 27th, 2007 at 10:45 amO. Bigfoot
What we do not do, is blindly accept a radical agenda primarily promoted by folks who despise their own country, want to see our leaders dangling from the end of a rope, and hate our military men and women.
No instead you blindly accept a radical agenda primarily promoted by folks who despise the common man, and who want to see their oligarchy get rich at the expensive of anyone or thing that can be taken advantage of.
Instead of a far left partisan your a far right partisan. There is no issue with being left or right. However there is an issue with being a partisan. It blinds you to any rational arguments put forward by your intellectual/economic/political/(etc for whatever you are a partisan in) opponents, while allowing you to blindly follow any argument put forward by the leaders of your group, regardless of how good or bad the argument is in structure, formation, and most importantly, implementation.
A different view point does not make someone an enemy, it makes them a learning tool for you, that allows you to receive new ideas, ingest them, understand them, and better yourself.
September 27th, 2007 at 10:47 amWow, Squeegy. Nice work. ;)
September 27th, 2007 at 11:08 amO. Bigfoot
Unless that point of view is patently incorrect.
Well if your going to use that as a starting point. Then the Neo-con view of Iraq should make them the enemy of everyone. Their view has constantly been shown to be ‘patently incorrect’ from the reason for starting the war (WMD, Saddam in bed with AQ to name two top ones) the length of the war, their expectations of progress along gov’t and security stand points in Iraq. Every one of these has been flat out wrong. Yet you view the people who are point this out as your enemies, as opposed to the people who, using your metric of ‘point of view is patently incorrect.’ that you still support.
September 27th, 2007 at 11:12 amEveryone has the right to believe, no matter how kook the theory. However, the rest of us also have the right to counter those beliefs, and the right to have beliefs of our own.
I didn’t say don’t have your beliefs. I said that even from people you disagree with, you can still learn, as long as you don’t dismiss them out of hand as you seem to do here. And I’m not saying you have to convert to learn, you can still use views that disagree with you to better understand their arguments, so you can better hone your own arguments, as opposed to the twisted logic and semantics arguments that are thrown around by most trolls here.
Wow, some bad grammar, sentence structure in my last post, but I think the point is still there.
September 27th, 2007 at 11:15 amZooey
Wow, Squeegy. Nice work. ;)
Thanks baby. Like I told spit take yesterday, it burns me to my soul, to be lucid and valid, but eventually even I’m forced to.
September 27th, 2007 at 11:16 amThanks baby. Like I told spit take yesterday, it burns me to my soul, to be lucid and valid, but eventually even I’m forced to.
Comment by Squegeeboo — September 27, 2007 @ 11:16 am
Had to happen sometime, Squeegy. ;)
I’m proud of you.
September 27th, 2007 at 11:24 amReality is far, far, different than what liberal blogs such as this portray.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 27, 2007 @ 10:35 am
Really? Let’s take a look at your “reality” — one comment at a time.
“most people believe the United States is a great and noble country”
– Agreed. And I am among them. This is why I hate to see this country taken down by the criminals occupying the executive branch, and why I intend to fight to see democracy restored.
“we generally support our elected leaders, despite our criticisms, and give our support when support is due (There is no call for trials at the Hague, hangings, our even impeachments)”
– About three quarters of the population disapprove of the job Bush is doing. The other quarter of the population (what you are calling “most people”) will blindly support Bush even if he were to eat live babies on television, simply because he is the president and thus should be treated like some sort of god. Reality is on our side on this one.
“we give our military, from Generals to Privates, the support and thanks they deserve for a job well done”
– Obviously, this is a dig at critics of Petraeus. You will find far more support of the military on TP than you will ever find attacks. Criticism of Petraeus was primarily motivated by his transparent parroting of the Bush agenda, which is endangering the troops we are supporting.
“What we do not do, is blindly accept a radical agenda”
– Uh…yes you do. You have shown yourself to be an obedient mouthpiece for the administration. Have you EVER disagreed with any of the GOP talking points? Even though I’m a liberal and a Democrat, I don’t agree with everything my party stands for. I don’t “blindly” accept anything.
“primarily promoted by folks who despise their own country”
– Ah yes. Anyone who disagrees with you hates America. That makes everything so easy for you, doesn’t it? I don’t hate my country. I love my country, and I weep when I see some of the things going on in it. However, I still have faith that Americans are the greatest people in the world, and they will eventually restore this country to being the respected presence in the world it once was.
“want to see our leaders dangling from the end of a rope”
– Not me. Unlike conservatives, I’m against capital punishment. I just want to see our leaders investigated (Clinton was investigated on far flimsier evidence of wrongdoing than our current leaders have racked up), impeached if the investigation turns up evidence of criminal activity, and imprisoned if they are convicted of criminal activity. But I don’t want anyone to die.
“and hate our military men and women”
– There you go with the “you hate the troops” drumbeat again. The liberal record of supporting the troops outshines the conservative record by quite a bit. We support paying them decently, protecting them from harm, giving them decent armor and equipment, giving them enough time off to actually get rested, and taking care of them at home when they come back wounded. What are the conservatives doing to “support” them? Besides obstructing and voting down every bit of help the Dems are trying to give them?
“The general population of the United States is wiser than folks like you would like to believe”
– No, I think we know just how wise the general population of the U.S. is. A clear majority of them don’t like the job Bush is doing. A clear majority of them think the war in Iraq is a mistake and always was. A clear majority of them don’t want to invade Iran. A clear majority of them want our troops withdrawn in Iraq. It seems the American people have more common sense than YOU would think.
“which is indicated by the minute percentage of people who subscribe to the agenda of websites such as this”
– If you are talking about the people who actually post here — yes, that’s a very small percentage of the population. It’s the same for any blog site, right or left. But as far as how the rest of the population thinks — I wouldn’t call the majority of Americans who are sick of Bush and sick of Iraq a “minute percentage”.
But you seem happy in your little world. Enjoy.
September 27th, 2007 at 11:29 amBravo Squegee………….Blessings
September 27th, 2007 at 11:31 amCheck your headlines, folks:
Verizon Wireless said on Thursday it reversed an earlier refusal to allow an abortion rights advocacy group to set up a text message alert system with subscribers and changed its policy on such messaging.
Verizon Wireless had denied a request from NARAL Pro-Choice America to set up text message alerts for subscribers who sign up for notices with a number known as a short code.
The decision was based on what the company described as an “outdated” policy that aimed to protect subscribers from unwanted messages.
September 27th, 2007 at 11:33 amhe United States is the greatest nation ever on the face of this planet. TWe are a noble nation that acts on noble causes.
Our citizens have the right to hate our own country, leaders, and military, however misguided they may be. However, I also have the right to call them on it at my leisure.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 27, 2007 @ 11:25 am
That sentence I highlighted is one of the most ignorant and naive comments I’ve seen yet, even from you. You really need to take a good hard look at the real history of American foreign policy. To keep it simple (which appears essential for you), spend some time reading about US intervention in Latin America since the late 19th century.
None of the people commenting here hate our country; rather, we bemoan the willingness of people like you to destroy the freedoms that have made it worth loving. We don’t hate the military, but rather the manner in which the military is used for repellent purposes. And if we hate some of our leaders, it’s because they’ve earned that hatred by their attempts to destroy the republic.
September 27th, 2007 at 11:34 amThe plan for 9/11 was being laid out prior to Bush becoming President, and the previous President did absolutely nothing to stop it. He could have,
Comment by O. Bigfoot In Mouth — September 27, 2007 @ 11:25 am
When you live in hypotheticals, the world is indeed your stage, to which you can believe whatever you want.
Let’s use some other examples, shall we:
Had the previous president budgeted more for the Space Shuttle program, the Challenger disaster never would have happened.
Had the previous administration considered more seriously the space/time continuum, the Tigers would have won the 2007 World Series.
Had President Reagan not called the then USSR an “evil empire”, O.Bigfoot in Mouth possibly would have got laid.
Gee, that was fun!
September 27th, 2007 at 11:36 am“we give our military, from Generals to Privates, the support and thanks they deserve for a job well doneâ€
Except when it’s a democrat. Then, republicans make fun of their service. Remember the Purple heart bandaids? A democrat would never do that.
September 27th, 2007 at 11:40 amWitch1
Bravo Squegee………….Blessings
Thanks, went with a name change I see. Hope you’ve been well.
September 27th, 2007 at 11:46 amVerizon has reversed its decision on allowing the unsavory NARAL pro-choice text message alerts.
September 27th, 2007 at 11:46 amBack at ya Squegee, Yep! had to, some one else was using my name….Just as well, I like the little fly in’s…..Bear and I are surviving well…..You.?…..Blessings
September 27th, 2007 at 11:53 amWow, quite a post by bigfoot. I never ever expected a straight faced lecture from a right wing Kool-Aid gulper on the notion that reality is different in the real world than what we think it is. The right wing and their far right radical regressive agenda have been polluting the country for far too long. He fails to realize that we too think America is a great place, great enough that we do not need to blame it for the actions of others. While it may be true that we from time to time blame the political and foreign policy decisions made by our leaders we do not blame the country its self. For instance condemning the use of torture in countries like North Korea while turning a blind eye to our “allies” the Saudis. Nope it is generally those on the right that blame America first.
How so? They confuse loyalty to a leader with a radical agenda with loyalty to the country. They confuse foreign policy decisions and criticism of them as being disloyal. What they have no problem with is claiming that the freedoms we enjoy as Americans, the very freedoms that make up America are the proximate cause of anger against us. How many times have we heard that god removed his protection from America because we allow homosexuals to be accepted, or because we don’t allow prayer in school, or because we allow women the right to choose the course of events with their own body’s, or because we give even the most heinous criminals like Gacy and Bundy rights according to the constitution? How many times have we heard from the right that we can surrender our right to privacy in our phone calls because 1) if you have nothing to hide there should be no problem and 2) 911 changed everything. How many times have we heard that we were attacked because of our permissive culture, therefore we must curtail how we live and restrict the rights of those whom the terrorists don’t approve of. The agenda of the right in America is not too far off from those whom they have hosen to fight. I could go on all day listing out example after example of where the right really shows their hate for our country and our culture. Face the right wing really does hate this country so much that they are willing to completely sacrifice it and what it stands for just to get their way. Bigfoot is no exception.
Now the latest hate du jour is advertising/political statements they don’t agree with. They think it is treasonous to criticize a military leader in a time of war. However they willfully choose to overlook the fact that this particular leader was acting in a political manner to sell a political agenda for the president. They forget that this military leader was a vocal supporter of the president in the past. They forget that this military leader has been wrong, dead wrong in a major way in the past. They look past the fact that the military leader and his political backers (who have thrown previous military leaders under the buss when they outlived their usefulness) have once again moved the goal posts, have changed the goals of the mission (the surge) from a goal of buying the Iraqi’s time to one of reducing violence. They overlook the fact that every other report out there contradicts the testimony of the military leader and his political backers and pretty much confirm that the violence has been reduced by playing with the numbers. The right also forgets that in our country the military is supposed to be under civilian control, yet they from time to time defer policy decision to the military like they did with General P.
BF and the right claim to respect and support the troops, except they only like those troops who toe the line, Anny who don’t toe the party line are hammered mercilessly. Witness how they reacted to the troops who wrote the NY Times editorial, the trooper who asked Rummy about body armor, Pat Tilman and his beliefs, any veteran who has spoken out against the war or any US policy, any general who dared utter anything that was not in line with administration policy. The right only supports the military when the military is to be used as a tool for fathering the rights political ambitions, other wise they toss the military aside like they do everything else that has no usefulness to their radical agenda.
BF is right, there is a real world out there that is immune to the spin and immune to the radical politics of a political party gone wild drunk on power. However his post and his comments do not flow from that reality they flow from the highly radicalized and alternate reality creating agenda of the right. He is also right in saying that the population of the US is immune to the radical agenda, but he got the side wrong, we have become immune to the radical agenda of the right wingers who lap up anything uttered by their pundits and politicos without nary a word of questioning or dissent. Sadly that 29% of the country (roughly the same % support the National Socialist Party had) will never listen to reason, they will never drop their radical destructive agenda. They are not interested in debate, discovery or coming to a correct resolution on any issue, they are only concerned with getting their way right or wrong.
Two things we can always assume fromt he right are blind acceptannce of their leaders and somewhere they will blame Clinton for it, whatever it may be, even their own policy errors.
September 27th, 2007 at 12:09 pmWitch1
Bear and I are surviving well…..You.?…..Blessings
Life, it’s a good right now. My complaints are many and petty as opposed to few and large.
As an aside, the direction of todays TF has made me think of Boondock Saints, specifically this line:
And I am reminded, on this holy day, of the sad story of Kitty Genovese. As you all may remember, a long time ago, almost thirty years ago, this poor soul cried out for help time and time again, but no person answered her calls. Though many saw, no one so much as called the police. They all just watched as Kitty was being stabbed to death in broad daylight. They watched as her assailant walked away. Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men.
Emphasis added by me
September 27th, 2007 at 12:09 pmSeverus and Squegee, outstanding post’s…..Thank you for posting here…Blessings
September 27th, 2007 at 12:29 pmHiya Zooey! Off topic here, but I’m packed and ready to go on the bus tomorrow night for the trip to DC, & protest @ the White House. Dumbya and 5 deferment Dick will most likely split before then though.
September 27th, 2007 at 12:38 pmChina is building it’s military using capital from the Bush administation?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 27, 2007 @ 11:25 am
You misused “it’s” in that sentence. “It’s” is a contraction of the verb “it is.” You were trying to use the neutral possessive, “its.” See the corrected sentence below.
China is building its military using capital from the Bush administation?
September 27th, 2007 at 12:43 pmI send Blessings to you and all the protester’s Uncle Ho….Thank you for what you do and have a safe trip……
September 27th, 2007 at 2:03 pmSo in attempting to close Gitmo, Gates has run “into several obstacles put up by lawyers within the executive branch.†Did any else but me notice another clearcut case of blurring the lines between the Executive and Judicial branches here?
AF
September 27th, 2007 at 2:20 pmWitch1; thanks. Join a protest in your area, it doesn’t have to be a big one in a major city. Last Saturday, we had 50 people in Port Huron there for one.
September 27th, 2007 at 2:51 pmUncle Ho, I do and I have often….Blessings
September 27th, 2007 at 2:58 pmWe cannot rely on the pussy Dems to do anything about the Patriot Act. It is up to American citizens to pursue litigation through the justice system to enact any change.
September 27th, 2007 at 3:48 pm>we have a very sick country…. is there a doctor in the house?
we could use Cheneys personal physician, Dr. Kevorkian, but he’s busy in iraq. The iraqis were suffering from an acute, terminal lack of freedom and are currently being euthanized at the rate of of about 100 per day.
anyone notice that the media reports of violence in iraq have gone dead, but if you dig enough in the foreign media, you still hear reports of renewed bombings and whatnot… part of thier slick PR campaign is no doubt making an all out effort to supress reports of violence in iraq..
September 28th, 2007 at 4:17 amhttp://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/recent/
and they only post these if they are reported by multiple well known news sources.. imagine how many are flying under the radar..?
September 28th, 2007 at 4:23 am>which is why I am here to counter the spin, support America,
don’t forget “confuse the words ‘accountant’ and accountability”
your ignorant trailer trash. just because something is long-winded doesnt make it any more true.
after 6 years of this nonsense, pretty much everyone outside of the 20-30 ish percenters like you have woken up.
please cite polls inticating which beleifs of yours are in the majority?
September 28th, 2007 at 4:50 am