Comments on: Huckabee rips Bush’s foreign policy approach. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:45:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: bernarda http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-2/#comment-4097592 bernarda Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:08:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4097592 Huckabee plays to his audience and has all the religious credentials to be credible to them. But I have read some statements by him that make me wonder if he hasn't become a closet doubter. He usually doesn't do that much bible-thumping and generally makes just general statements about his faith. His policies as governor weren't so bad when you look at the other Republican candidates. On Pew Forum, he even joked about religion. "Fortunately for all of us, and the airline, we made it here safely. What is really a miracle – for those of you who need any affirmation of the intervention of God in life – is that the U.S. Airways flight was actually on time. (Laughter.) And if you have flown them lately, you know that only God could have intervened to make that happen. (Laughter.) What's more, the bags made it as well. As one who travels on airplanes a lot, I wish somebody in the debates would ask me the question, What would you do as president to try to make airlines a more efficient industry? I'm not sure that I have the answer, but, boy, could I ever explain the problem." http://pewforum.org/events/?EventID=150 "There are some interesting points of opposition that I faced along the way. I love to tell the story of the lady who asked me in my early political life if it was true that I was a Baptist minister, and I said, "Yes, ma'am, that is true." She said, "Well, let me ask you, are you one of those narrow-minded Baptists who think only Baptists go to heaven?" I said, "No, ma'am, actually I'm more narrow than that; I don't think all of the Baptists are going to make it." (Scattered laughter.)" Huckabee also had this strange comment for a Republican, "I believe that when people elect public officials, they don't elect people to be horizontal; they are looking for vertical leaders. Vertical leadership is when you really are leading people on the basis of things that will directly impact their lives, like, Will we improve schools? Will we improve roads that people drive on? Will our actions make for a better environment, or a worse one? Will we have a safer nation with safer borders – more secure borders? Will our tax system be fair? Will it penalize people who are trying to be productive, or will it be a heel in the face of those who are trying to reach the next rung on the ladder?" Huckabee plays to his audience and has all the religious credentials to be credible to them. But I have read some statements by him that make me wonder if he hasn’t become a closet doubter.

He usually doesn’t do that much bible-thumping and generally makes just general statements about his faith. His policies as governor weren’t so bad when you look at the other Republican candidates.

On Pew Forum, he even joked about religion.

“Fortunately for all of us, and the airline, we made it here safely. What is really a miracle – for those of you who need any affirmation of the intervention of God in life – is that the U.S. Airways flight was actually on time. (Laughter.) And if you have flown them lately, you know that only God could have intervened to make that happen. (Laughter.) What’s more, the bags made it as well. As one who travels on airplanes a lot, I wish somebody in the debates would ask me the question, What would you do as president to try to make airlines a more efficient industry? I’m not sure that I have the answer, but, boy, could I ever explain the problem.”

http://pewforum.org/events/?EventID=150

“There are some interesting points of opposition that I faced along the way. I love to tell the story of the lady who asked me in my early political life if it was true that I was a Baptist minister, and I said, “Yes, ma’am, that is true.” She said, “Well, let me ask you, are you one of those narrow-minded Baptists who think only Baptists go to heaven?” I said, “No, ma’am, actually I’m more narrow than that; I don’t think all of the Baptists are going to make it.” (Scattered laughter.)”

Huckabee also had this strange comment for a Republican,

“I believe that when people elect public officials, they don’t elect people to be horizontal; they are looking for vertical leaders. Vertical leadership is when you really are leading people on the basis of things that will directly impact their lives, like, Will we improve schools? Will we improve roads that people drive on? Will our actions make for a better environment, or a worse one? Will we have a safer nation with safer borders – more secure borders? Will our tax system be fair? Will it penalize people who are trying to be productive, or will it be a heel in the face of those who are trying to reach the next rung on the ladder?”

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-2/#comment-4097351 The Republic of Stupidity Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:42:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4097351 Then Bush turned around and called them part of the Axis of Evil for ‘harboring terrorists’. What a goddam jerk. Comment by chimpeach — September 29, 2007 @ 4:42 pm yeah, but "Axis of Evil" made for such killer sound bites on Fox, like "Shock and Awe", or "Bring 'Er On", or "Git 'Er Done"... Unfortunately, most of the world apparently doesn't watch Fox... Then Bush turned around and called them part of the Axis of Evil for ‘harboring terrorists’. What a goddam jerk.

Comment by chimpeach — September 29, 2007 @ 4:42 pm

yeah, but “Axis of Evil” made for such killer sound bites on Fox, like “Shock and Awe”, or “Bring ‘Er On”, or “Git ‘Er Done”…

Unfortunately, most of the world apparently doesn’t watch Fox…

]]> By: chimpeach http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-2/#comment-4097119 chimpeach Sat, 29 Sep 2007 20:42:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4097119 Huckabee called it exactly right. In fact, we asked Iran to keep the al Qaeda operatives it was holding in order to keep them out of Afghanistan, and they did. Then Bush turned around and called them part of the Axis of Evil for 'harboring terrorists'. What a goddam jerk. Huckabee called it exactly right. In fact, we asked Iran to keep the al Qaeda operatives it was holding in order to keep them out of Afghanistan, and they did. Then Bush turned around and called them part of the Axis of Evil for ‘harboring terrorists’. What a goddam jerk.

]]> By: foxdie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-2/#comment-4096886 foxdie Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:02:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096886 I thought Ron Paul was already the Republican maverick? He's been saying things like this all along. I thought Ron Paul was already the Republican maverick? He’s been saying things like this all along.

]]> By: Badger http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-2/#comment-4096778 Badger Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:15:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096778 “When we first invaded Afghanistan, Iran helped, especially in dealings with their ally, the Northern Alliance,” he said. “They wanted to join us in fighting al Qaida. Actually, we wanted to JOIN THEM in fighting al Qaeda. “When we first invaded Afghanistan, Iran helped, especially in dealings with their ally, the Northern Alliance,” he said. “They wanted to join us in fighting al Qaida.

Actually, we wanted to JOIN THEM in fighting al Qaeda.

]]> By: Red Pill http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-2/#comment-4096774 Red Pill Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:01:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096774 I'm no Huckabee fan, but the man is right on with this. Bush approaches geopolitics as a child. His foreign "policy" recalls Abraham Maslow, who said, "If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail." I’m no Huckabee fan, but the man is right on with this. Bush approaches geopolitics as a child. His foreign “policy” recalls Abraham Maslow, who said, “If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.”

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-2/#comment-4096773 Chocolate Jesus Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:01:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096773 >This is fascinating. “Rory” is also posting on another thread continuously, >and the grammar, phrasing and syntax are totally different. Right.....this "Rory" if you notice on this thread, also has Jakes excessive, fake politeness, and now, Rory is asking "anything else?" instead of "anyone else?", like it (and Jake) was before. Hey Rory, is this the first website you've ever commented on? If no, could you kindly point us to some of your old posts? Since you're not jake, I couldnt be on your "ignore list" (tm) >This is fascinating. “Rory” is also posting on another thread continuously, >and the grammar, phrasing and syntax are totally different.

Right…..this “Rory” if you notice on this thread, also has Jakes excessive, fake politeness, and now, Rory is asking “anything else?” instead of “anyone else?”, like it (and Jake) was before.

Hey Rory, is this the first website you’ve ever commented on? If no, could you kindly point us to some of your old posts? Since you’re not jake, I couldnt be on your “ignore list” ™

]]> By: Badger http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-2/#comment-4096770 Badger Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11:17:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096770 I just heard on the BBC overnite that China has established a new foreign investment board to decide where to move its $200 Billion in foreign reserves....now mostly invested in American T-bills...to get a Better Return. Bin Laden used boxcutters and airline tickets...but his real weapon was the same one he used against the Soviet Union...BANKRUPTCY ! I just heard on the BBC overnite that China has established a new foreign investment board to decide where to move its $200 Billion in foreign reserves….now mostly invested in American T-bills…to get a Better Return.
Bin Laden used boxcutters and airline tickets…but his real weapon was the same one he used against the Soviet Union…BANKRUPTCY !

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-2/#comment-4096767 Jay Randal Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:50:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096767 War on Iran appears imminent. Emergency funding has been given to Bush, by the Congress, so attack might commence this weekend. War on Iran appears imminent. Emergency funding has been given to Bush, by the Congress, so attack might commence this weekend.

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-2/#comment-4096744 The Republic of Stupidity Sat, 29 Sep 2007 05:03:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096744 Like the entire global community. Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 29, 2007 @ 12:50 am Uh... yeah... I'd be SOOO lyin' if I said I wasn't scared shi*tless... Like the entire global community.

Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 29, 2007 @ 12:50 am

Uh… yeah… I’d be SOOO lyin’ if I said I wasn’t scared shi*tless…

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-4096738 The Republic of Stupidity Sat, 29 Sep 2007 04:41:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096738 Why none other than our own George Bush. Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 29, 2007 @ 12:39 am Well, damn... he is a uniter after all! Why none other than our own George Bush.

Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 29, 2007 @ 12:39 am

Well, damn… he is a uniter after all!

]]> By: PollM http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-4096737 PollM Sat, 29 Sep 2007 04:41:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096737 Finally someone is talking the shameful foreign policy. Make your voice count, shame on them. Always ask yourself who owns the Lobby system, and where more emphasis needs to be put going forward to get your rights. Who do you think won the All American Presidential forum debate at Baltimore's Morgan State University? ----> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=604 Finally someone is talking the shameful foreign policy.

Make your voice count, shame on them. Always ask yourself who owns the Lobby system, and where more emphasis needs to be put going forward to get your rights.

Who do you think won the All American Presidential forum debate at Baltimore’s Morgan State University?

—-> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=604

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-4096718 The Republic of Stupidity Sat, 29 Sep 2007 04:09:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096718 He had NO WAY TO ATTACK THE US!!! PERIOD. Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 28, 2007 @ 10:59 pm Hmmm... right you are, Bartlebee. Back in The Build-up to the War™, did you hear ONE bit in the news about the Mighty Iraqi Airforce, or the Mighty Iraqi Navy? Didn't think so, 'cause, in truth, THEY DID'T HAVE ONE! Geez... get a clue, folks! He had NO WAY TO ATTACK THE US!!!

PERIOD.

Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 28, 2007 @ 10:59 pm

Hmmm… right you are, Bartlebee.

Back in The Build-up to the Warâ„¢, did you hear ONE bit in the news about the Mighty Iraqi Airforce, or the Mighty Iraqi Navy? Didn’t think so, ’cause, in truth, THEY DID’T HAVE ONE!

Geez… get a clue, folks!

]]> By: 1984 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-4096679 1984 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:12:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096679 All diplomatic solutions are designed to fail, the neocons want war and have wanted for a long time. WMDs and terrorism will the bogus reasons for the PNACcio invasion.. All diplomatic solutions are designed to fail, the neocons want war and have wanted for a long time. WMDs and terrorism will the bogus reasons for the PNACcio invasion..

]]> By: woodguy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-4096651 woodguy Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:50:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096651 DigDug, I agree completely with all of but one of your points, i.e. they have no "deep down", but are as shallow as a puddle of piss. DigDug,

I agree completely with all of but one of your points, i.e. they have no “deep down”, but are as shallow as a puddle of piss.

]]> By: DigDug http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-4096638 DigDug Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:40:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096638 <em>Actually, barfly, both Bill and Hillary Clinton DID fully appreciate Saddam’s evil. Comment by Rory </em> Was Saddam evil? Certainly. But he was also weak, largely dis-armed, and completely contained. And now, in his place we have a huge, home-grown Al'Qaida presence that may actually be a problem for us. In short we created a problem where there was none. And everyone knows this, even the heavily partisan 30% who still try to deny it. Deep down, they know. Actually, barfly, both Bill and Hillary Clinton DID fully appreciate Saddam’s evil.

Comment by Rory

Was Saddam evil? Certainly.

But he was also weak, largely dis-armed, and completely contained.

And now, in his place we have a huge, home-grown Al’Qaida presence that may actually be a problem for us. In short we created a problem where there was none. And everyone knows this, even the heavily partisan 30% who still try to deny it. Deep down, they know.

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-4096603 The Republic of Stupidity Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:22:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096603 If Huckabee wanted to raise a stink, he should have done it two days ago, when Congress was giving Bush unlimited authority to invade Iran. Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 28, 2007 @ 10:18 pm Ya got that damned straight... If Huckabee wanted to raise a stink, he should have done it two days ago, when Congress was giving Bush unlimited authority to invade Iran.

Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 28, 2007 @ 10:18 pm

Ya got that damned straight…

]]> By: Above the Clouds http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-4096515 Above the Clouds Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:37:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096515 Huckabee is an idiot--Bush dioesn't have any foreign policy. Huckabee is an idiot–Bush dioesn’t have any foreign policy.

]]> By: Ryan Neat http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-4096514 Ryan Neat Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:36:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096514 <em>I’m a “she” as well. Comment by Rory — September 28, 2007 @ 9:29 pm</em> How very transgender of you... Doesn't change the fact you're a bedwetting wingnut, little girl. I’m a “she” as well.
Comment by Rory — September 28, 2007 @ 9:29 pm

How very transgender of you…

Doesn’t change the fact you’re a bedwetting wingnut, little girl.

]]> By: woodguy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-4096513 woodguy Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:36:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/28/huckabee-rips-bushs-foreign-policy-approach/#comment-4096513 Are these comments what Larry Craig would call a "Rory hole"? Are these comments what Larry Craig would call a “Rory hole”?

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