Senate Democratic Leaders Demand Apology For Limbaugh’s ‘Outrageous,’ ‘Unconscionable’ Remarks
Senate Democratic Leaders Demand Apology For Limbaugh’s ‘Outrageous,’ ‘Unconscionable’ Remarks
ThinkProgress has obtained a letter being circulated on Capitol Hill today by the Senate Democratic Leadership that calls on Clear Channel CEO Mark Mays to repudiate its employee Rush Limbaugh’s “phony troops” remark. Clear Channel is Limbaugh’s parent company, and it owns or operates at least 1,165 radio stations in the United States.
The letter, signed by Sens. Harry Reid (D-NV, Dick Durbin (D-IL), Charles Schumer (D-NY), and Patty Murray (D-WA), states that Limbaugh’s comments were “outrageous” and “unconscionable”:
Although Americans of goodwill debate the merits of this war, we can all agree that those who serve with such great courage deserve our deepest respect and gratitude. That is why Rush Limbaugh’s recent characterization of troops who oppose the war as “phony soldiers” is such an outrage.
Our troops are fighting and dying to bring to others the freedoms that many take for granted. It is unconscionable that Mr. Limbaugh would criticize them for exercising the fundamentally American right to free speech. Mr. Limbaugh has made outrageous remarks before, but this affront to our soldiers is beyond the pale.
Yesterday, ThinkProgress asked whether lawmakers who voted to attack a MoveOn newspaper ad would now condemn Limbaugh. The Senate leadership is challenging all their colleagues to demonstrate whether they can show principled condemnation by signing onto the letter. It specifically calls on Clear Channel to issue an apology and demands Limbaugh do the same:
Thousands of active troops and veterans were subjected to Mr. Limbaugh’s unpatriotic and indefensible comments on your broadcast. We trust you will agree that not a single one of our sons, daughters, neighbors and friends serving overseas is a “phony soldier.” We call on you to publicly repudiate these comments that call into question their service and sacrifice and to ask Mr. Limbaugh to apologize for his comments.
Read the full letter here. Call your Senators and ask them to sign on.
UPDATE: More smears against the military by Limbaugh. Huff Post notes that he called Iraq war vet Paul Hackett a “staff puke,” claiming he went to Iraq “to pad [his] resume,” and attacked him as “a liberal hiding behind a military uniform.”
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He should also be pulled from Armed Forces Radio until he apologizes. Go ahead and complain trolls,.
September 28th, 2007 at 2:41 pmCrickets…
September 28th, 2007 at 2:43 pmThe heck with Rush’s boss, that’d be like getting Soros to condemn
September 28th, 2007 at 2:43 pmMoveOn. They should circulate the same Senate resolution that was
circulated about the Betrayus add and dare the Repubs not to sign it.
Caption Contest;
I just love long hard things in my mouth.
September 28th, 2007 at 2:46 pmWhat makes me sick is that men and women are fighting and dying over there while Dems and Repubs make big hay over these ads and those comments. Just do SOMETHING to bring them home and out of that hell! We can condemn that and this until faces are blue, but it does not save one single life. Let the Repubs grow a conscience and Dems grow some nads. But too much energy is taken up by this ridiculous finger-pointing left and rightward. Bring ‘em home.
September 28th, 2007 at 2:48 pmWe’ll see if as many Republicans are willing to condemn Rush as there were Democrats willing to condemn MoveOn.
And then, once each side has gotten theirs, maybe the Senate can go back to DOING SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE instead of passing an endless chain of “sense of the Senate” resolutions?
Oh wait — the Senate is all about obstruction these days, not production.
September 28th, 2007 at 2:49 pmJust wait a few minutes - the dittoheads are still busy trying to prove something on the other Rush threads right now.
September 28th, 2007 at 2:51 pmDon’t tas me bro!
September 28th, 2007 at 2:51 pmRush’ comment ranks even with the drug store cowboy Imus.
September 28th, 2007 at 2:51 pmLimpwad should be dropped.
From a significant height.
Didn’t take you long to reveal your true colors, did it? You do realize that as a Federal PAC, Move on can’t accept donations larger than $5,000 and that if Soros did donate to Move on, a contribution of that size would give him little voice in the organization at all. The thought of Soros’ invisible hand only exists in the tiny minds of the conservative conspiracy theorists.
September 28th, 2007 at 2:53 pmAnyone here know what Jesse MacBeth is?
Comment by Tracy1
Another GSE?
September 28th, 2007 at 2:55 pm10 - is he any relation to Jeff Gannon, or Matt Sanchez? I have heard of them.
September 28th, 2007 at 2:57 pmAnyone here know what Jesse MacBeth is?
Comment by Tracy1 — September 28, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Here it comes, the “Rush was really talking about Jesse MacBeth” excuse. Along with “the Left has been using Jesse MacBeth” excuse.
Sorry, up until your buddies tried to claim he was relevant, I’d never even heard of the guy. The Left has been doing a terrible job using him if the Righties are the only ones who know who he is.
September 28th, 2007 at 2:58 pmRemember, Limbaugh is using OUR radio airwaves to spew his hate. Why can’t the FCC pull his plug?
September 28th, 2007 at 2:58 pmKeltoi…damnit man, think for yourself.
September 28th, 2007 at 2:59 pmSapre Aude
[have courage to use your own intelligence]
Why would I use Jesse Macbeth?
Because some pundit insinuates, by lemming psychology, I do?
September 28th, 2007 at 3:01 pmAnyone here know what Jesse MacBeth is?
Comment by Tracy1
No the correct question is do YOU condemn Rush Limberger or stilll carry water for his trashing Real Soldiers and Veterans?
September 28th, 2007 at 3:01 pmStupid is stupid. The senate wasting time on the move on ad is just as dumb as the senate wasting time on this turd.
Do the business of the people fer chrissakes. Nurse your wounded sensibilities on your own time.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:01 pmAnyone here know what Jesse MacBeth is?
Comment by Tracy1
I believe he was a soldier that supposedly wrote some blogs from Iraq (published by the NYTs) and were later found to be false.
Hence the reason Rush was doing all he could to backtrack from his comments and blame this guy for the filth that spewed from his piehole.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:01 pmThe best thing I ever did: Turn off the TV.
The second best thing I ever did: Turn off talk radio.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:02 pmThis photo of junkie Limbaugh takes the cake! If this doesn’t epitomize his brand of hate, nothing does.
Since Congress took time from it’s otherwise mundane (sarcasm) schedule to admonish MoveOn for what will be shown to be true; that is, David Petreus not only betrayed himself but betrayed each of us when his cooked books and lies are exposed, then it would be totally hypocritical if there did not admonish the likes of this druggie, vile filled, military hating draft dodger.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:03 pmMacBeth wasn’t a soldier and was exposed as a liar. He got what he deserved.
Rush has been exposed as a liar and has slandered the US Military. He’s now getting what he deserves.
The gloves are off and Rush has nowhere to hide.
Quit defending him and acknowledge his remarks are harmful the the US Military.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:04 pm“a liberal hiding behind a military uniform.â€
Is Rush saying that only conservatives serve in the military?
September 28th, 2007 at 3:04 pmLet me tell you this Tracy1, for future reference, I dont read the NYT and I do not take what the media says, left or right, for granted. No matter what a pundit says, don’t believe it.
Do your own homework and never rely upon a talking head interested in ratings and partisan politics no matter how much their ideology appeals to you.
Sapre Aude.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:05 pm#21: I’m with you. My household has totally boycotted mainstream news. I’ve never been into talk radio much other than catching something interesting on NPR. It’s time citizens show their voice to our whoring propagandist media. After all, without their lies and spin, the people of this country would not have been intentionally “duped” into this war. We need to hold each and every one of them accountable and responsible for this mess as well.
Boycott them all! Your day will improve immeasurably without listening to all of their spin & lies.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:05 pmThat’s right, X…..”Believe nothing you read OR hear”….because the shapeshifters are walking among us. The “enemy within” is our own corporately owned fascist media.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:06 pmFree yourself from Bush’s propaganda machine! Boycott all mainstream news programs today!! Your life will improve immediately without these “devils” chattering in your face.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:07 pm“Anyone here know what Jesse MacBeth is?”
Comment by Tracy1
The lost boyfriend of Tania Head?
September 28th, 2007 at 3:09 pmTY Veritas
September 28th, 2007 at 3:09 pmI sent out approximately 15 letters to Democratic senators yesterday (including all the ones on that list) - used the text of the TP post with regard to Limpyballs and asked them to “step up to the plate.”
Glad to see that some of them *are* stepping up. ;o)
September 28th, 2007 at 3:15 pmDebkakes #5 nailed it.
We discuss, others die.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:16 pmI have never heard of Jesse McBeth. He was certainly no poster boy for the anti-war movement. I daresay most of us here have never heard of him.
I do remember Matt Sanchez, however, who was the darling of the right, their very own gay porn pet.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:18 pmIt must be going to rain. The pigs are running around with sticks in their mouths.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:19 pmHave any of you read the transcript for yourselves? I was mad as hell about what Limbaugh “said” but it’s not true. I don’t have to agree with him politically but I will not stand for breathing false information. Mr. Limbaugh was referring about a “veteran” who testified that he had seen and committed atrocities in Iraq. This 23 year old was kick out if boot camp after 44 days. He has no purple heart, did not serve in Iraq, and did not participate in what he said he did. I don’t have to like Limbaugh but I will not sign on to lies. I have more character than that and I hope you do to.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:27 pmNo argument from me on MacBeth. Who are the other “phony soldiers” that speak out against the conflict?
If Rush can’t or won’t clarify then he is painting the entire military with that brush. You want to defend that? You will be crushed.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:33 pmjohnny and v - although i don’t think 2 qualifies as a “circle-jerk” i’ll leave the two of you here to your dirty business - just remember to clean up after yourselves.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:46 pmFabulous Vendetta, Rush apologized to the US Military for slandering them. Glad to hear it. Too many cats out of the bag now for him to just be silent. His history of incivility to those who have served but don’t walk lock step in dittoland has come to the surface.
It’s time for him to pay the piper. And forgive me if I didn’t know that earlier. I listen to news, not have someone tell me what I should think.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:49 pm#5 & #32
You fail to realize that as long as the Republicans are allowed to frame the debate, the Dems will always be responding and never attacking.
The Republicans will never cease attempting to frame the debate. They will never cease to question the patriotism of the left. It has been this way for several years now and what do we have to show for it?
I’m sorry if you disagree, but the Republicans need to be challenged.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:51 pmWelcome to the discussion johnny. So when Rush said “phony soldiers” he was talking about who and how many? And since I’m not listening to his opinion show I wouldn’t know how he clarified this.
Could you enlighten me on this. And yes, until a clarification he is calling all soldiers “phony”.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:52 pmI do remember Matt Sanchez, however, who was the darling of the right, their very own gay porn pet.
Comment by Candyce — September 28, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
Sanchez also got caught scamming money for his “deployment to Iraq”, when he was not even scheduled to deploy.
It is curious that even after he was outed as a gay porn star, he wasn’t discharged. Guess the “Don’t ask, Don’t tell” rule is only for liberal gays
September 28th, 2007 at 3:52 pmOT but very relevant. On Ed Schultz yesterday Dennis Kucinich said he is seriously considering introducing a “privilege resolution on impeachment”. I looked it up and here’s what he is talking about:
http://www.impeachbush.tv/impeach/privilege.html
I say we all contact Kucinich and encourage him to do this. Since none of the other Democrats have the courage to directly confront Bush, Kucinich feels like he may have to do it. Specifically he is very worried about Bush attacking Iran. Here’s where to go to contact him:
http://www.dennis4president.com/contact/
While you are there, check out what Kucinich has to say. I think you will be very favorably impressed. If the MSM had not decided to boycott him, I believe that Kucinich would be right up there with the top contenders.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:58 pmThis is what happens when you listen to a liberal interpret what Rush said on his show. Did any of you listen to the program? I did, live. Rush was discussing Jesse MacBeth with the caller. Jesse MacBeth IS a phony soldier in every sense of the word.
I’ve been an Army wife for 14 years and work on a military post. My husband is an OIF and he agrees that Jesse MacBeth is a phony soldier. There’s no doubt about this. Rush was not referring to all soldiers (unlike John Kerry…oh, he was just referring to the ones in Iraq; or John Murtha…oh, he was just referring to the Haditha Marines who’ve been aquitted of the charges against them). Rush was referring to Jesse MacBeth who is a crowing example of how eager the anti-war left is to believe the worst about our troops. MacBeth was never a soldier; he never made it out of basic training.
You guys all owe Rush an apology. This Army wife and her soldier stand by Rush and see him as a champion of the military.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:59 pmThe heck with Rush’s boss, that’d be like getting Soros to condemn
MoveOn. They should circulate the same Senate resolution that was
circulated about the Betrayus add and dare the Repubs not to sign it.
Comment by Keltoi
Just can’t resist perpetuating myths, can you Keltoi. George Soros has nothing to do with moveon.org. That is a myth that the right created.
But I do agree with you, the Democrats should introduce a “sense of the senate” resolution to condemn Limbaugh.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:02 pmMacBeth is a phony soldier in the sense that he never was a soldier. Amy you should know that you aren’t a real soldier until you pass basic.
Rush said “phony soldier” in the context of the left parading them out to slam the military. Whatever MacBeth was attempting is abhorrent.
Any Kerry comment or Murtha comment is in the same vein as this one from Rush. It’s pitiful on all sides.
Rush doesn’t deserve an apology. He’s an alarmist and is enjoying all of this.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:03 pmThe GOP is now setting up to attack Bill Clinton for his recent comments regarding the MoveOn ad.
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/ news/ politics/ blog/ 2007/ 09/ gop_its_time_for_bill_clinton.html
September 28th, 2007 at 4:03 pmI demand an apology from the Democratic leadership for quietly passing billions more for Iraq yesterday.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:04 pmThis is what happens when you listen to a liberal interpret what Rush said on his show. Did any of you listen to the program? I did, live. Rush was discussing Jesse MacBeth with the caller. Jesse MacBeth IS a phony soldier in every sense of the word.
Comment by Amy P — September 28, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
Here’s the transcript of the call. Please point to the place where Rush was “discussing Jesse MacBeth with the caller.”
Apparently, you dittoheads know all about Jesse MacBeth, except for the part of about him being some kind of poster child for the Left. As far as I’ve been able to tell, the “Left” has never heard of the guy.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:06 pmI e-mailed this letter to TX Senator Cornyn. (I live in Texas)
I honestly doubt anything will come of it, but I can’t say I didn’t try.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:11 pmSounds like backpeddling to me.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:18 pmCALLER 2: No, it’s not, and what’s really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.
LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.
CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they’re willing to sacrifice for their country.
Notice he says phony soldiers (plural)
He does not mention MacBeth here at all.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:19 pmThe excuse given by trolls and Limberger is a damn lie.
Poor Rush — Everyone is Piling on!
Poor O’Riley — Everyone is smearing me
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
September 28th, 2007 at 4:19 pmWow, Thanks for the link to Rush’s words. I didn’t get offended. It rambled and rambled and rambled on.
I don’t believe Rush was slandering all soldiers. I believe he poorly choose his words. I believe he infered active duty soldiers that have spoken out. He won’t clarify that but I don’t really expect him to.
I do find it interesting that earlier this week there was a thread discussing the horrid treatment vets were still getting from this administration.
It had less posters than this does now. And I don’t think one of the defenders of Rush spoke out on it at all.
I cannot compete the the verbal barrage that comes from Rush. He is an inciter and an alarmist.
I believe the “phony soldiers” remark was insulting to soldiers. I am a vet and don’t believe anyone who hasn’t served can be justified in making that statement with any accuracy.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:27 pmWell, all the Rush defenders here should be outraged at the White House for piling on the pilled up junkie.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:27 pmjohnny swank, The plural part was what I was upset about. Who are the others that he infers to?
September 28th, 2007 at 4:28 pmBecause there is more than one “phony soldierâ€.
Comment by Johnny Swank — September 28, 2007 @ 4:22 pm
The context was anyone not supporting even though they served was called a phony soldier.
And I listened to the whole recording and read the transcript
You trolls are disgusting.
Really? Explain?
Comment by Michael — September 28, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
michael, stick it where the sun don’t shine.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:31 pmWhy don’t you prove me wrong, instead of playing your 20 questions game.
Backup your own statements, dillweed.
I believe the “phony soldiers†remark was insulting to soldiers. I am a vet and don’t believe anyone who hasn’t served can be justified in making that statement with any accuracy.
Comment by hellinabucket — September 28, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
Exactly…..
September 28th, 2007 at 4:32 pmJohnny, I already did.
Comment by hellinabucket — September 28, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
Now, who are these other soldiers?
September 28th, 2007 at 4:35 pmDon’t hold your breath waiting for these clowns to apologize. They will twist anything they get their grimy hands on to make Rush or O’Reilly look bad. They’re pathetic!
Defending pedophiles
typical
September 28th, 2007 at 4:36 pmMoveOn.Org might come and take our commie cards away.
Comment by Johnny Swank — September 28, 2007 @ 4:31 pm
Now we see that you are just a troll, who has nothing but slander and lies to offer.
Thanks for clarifying.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:37 pmDon’t hold your breath waiting for these clowns to apologize.
Comment by Michael — September 28, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
Don’t hold your breath for michael to back up even one inane statement he makes.
But bet on him getting caught in lies over and over again, when he isn’t stalking the women posters here.
michael is possibly the stupidest troll to ever post at TP
September 28th, 2007 at 4:41 pmHere’s the context via Rush’s podcast.
It starts out with a caller, a soldier, who called to talk about “real” soldiers serving in Iraq, who know they will likely serve in Iraq and/or Afghanistan after basic training and AIT vs. “phony” soldiers championed by the left like Jesse MacBeth, who said:
I’m sure you know MacBeth’s story. Rush was referring to him and Jimmy Massey types (Massey was a soldier who was discharged from the Army for PTSD and was sent home from Iraq after 6 weeks for chickening out), who lied about war crimes that he didn’t see and cannot be corroborated becasue they didn’t happen.
Those are the “phony soldiers” Rush and the caller were talking about. Listen to the entire 7 minute discourse via the podcast link to You Tube. The transcript #57 posted isn’t from Rush’s site (of course) it’s from Media Matters, so it stops far short of contextual. He goes on just AFTER Media Matters ends the transcript to describe Jesse MacBeth as the “phoney soldier”.
I wonder why Media Matters didn’t post the entire transcript? Hmmmm…Why, not even a link to the real transcript. I guess they know it’s easier to mislead a bunch of lefties with a partial transcript than to risk posting the entire thing.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:42 pmwayne, what lies are you referring to?
Comment by Michael — September 28, 2007 @ 4:38 pm
Every time your lips move or everytime you type a post.
You have been caught too many times to list
September 28th, 2007 at 4:43 pmAccuses our troops of terrorizing women and children at night (kerry)
Comment by Michael — September 28, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
The rape and murder of a 14 year old Iraqi girl, the burning of her body, and the murder of her family by members of our military in Iraq never happened, did it Bud?
Oh, but that’s an exception, I’m sure.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:44 pmKind of scarey that someone on the left actually served their country.
Comment by Michael — September 28, 2007 @ 4:40 pm
nice attempt at being Rush and slandering veterans, especially since you could never even give your NEC to back up your claim of being in the Navy.
You claimed you never had one, hilarious
September 28th, 2007 at 4:47 pmComment by Wayne — September 28, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
Wayne, soldiers (plural) are referenced THREE times in the text you posted. This was not about ONE soldier.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:47 pmComment by Johnny Swank — September 28, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
I actually did read the transcript from Rush’s show with the “phony soldiers” remark. Not once did he indicate he was talking about Jesse Macbeth. Furthermore, Jesse Macbeth is only one person — Rush definitely used the plural. The “phony soldiers” remark was made by Rush in response to his caller saying “they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.” The only thing I can infer from this exchange is that Rush is applying the label to any soldier who “talk(s) to the media”. Would this include the op-ed written by soldiers from the 82nd Airborne? Are they all phony? Some of them have suffered not so phony deaths since.
This is all just Rush spin. Rush also calls it a “smear” when his exact words are thrown back at him. He calls O’Reilly’s racist musings about Sylvia’s in Harlem “innocent comments”. And he criticizes people for not going to his website when he CHARGES people to do so (you can get today’s stuff for free, but you have to be a subscriber to get into the archives).
Spin all you want, Rush. But it will take more spin than you can muster to dislodge yourself from this cowpie.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:48 pmAmy, Jimmy Massey’s name doesn’t come up in the original transcript, nor does it come up in today’s so far.
I’m done with Rush Limbaugh, he has lied and skirted the truth for more things than I care to count. He himself said he is an entertainer (playboy ariticle) and that’s what I consider him. It’s unfortunate that his “schtick” convinces so many on his distortions.
McCain has asked him to apologize. I thought you guys were done eating him up? He’s back for seconds, start the feasting on McCain 2nd course.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:48 pmYou guys all owe Rush an apology. This Army wife and her soldier stand by Rush and see him as a champion of the military.
Comment by Amy P
Wow, we have a new Right Wing Loon. Welcome Amy, stick around and make a fool of yourself. You are off to a good start.
My bet is on Amy being one of a new batch of recruits that the RNC has sent out to try to salvage Limbaugh’s reputation.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:53 pmAh, the do nothing democrats, introduce a meaningless resolution. Where are all those great things you were going to accomplish once you gained control of Congress?
Comment by Michael — September 28, 2007 @ 4:26 pm
Glad you agree that Cornyn’s amendment was meaningless. Because if you do, you run the risk of agreeing that the attacks towards MoveOn are meaningless, too.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:54 pmWhat lies wayne?
–michael the dork
you could never even give your NEC to back up your claim of being in the Navy.
You claimed you never had one, hilarious
First post you ever made you claimed proof there were only a cetain amount of people at the DC protest. You were going to post that non-existant link. You never did.
Want me to go on and keep embarassing you, Fake?
Sorry, I fogot, you would have to have a concience to be embarrassed
September 28th, 2007 at 4:55 pmAh, the do nothing democrats, introduce a meaningless resolution. Where are all those great things you were going to accomplish once you gained control of Congress?
Comment by Michael
Right Wing Loon Michael wants to know where all the accomplishments of the Democrats are. Well Loon, they are all behind the Republican’s filibuster threats. You know, the “it deserves an up or down vote” Republicans? I really do wish that you loons had nuked the filibuster. If you had, we would be in a lot better shape as a nation than we are now.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:55 pmThis was not about ONE soldier.
Comment by Bad Eye — September 28, 2007 @ 4:47 pm
I know
September 28th, 2007 at 4:56 pmDemocratic presidential candidate John Edwards said if he wasn’t elected president, the population of African-American males is likely to either wind up in prison or dead.
Comment by ron — September 28, 2007 @ 4:53 pm
Off topic.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:57 pmhttp://www.rushlimbaugh.com/ home/ daily/ site_092807/ content/ 01125106.guest.html
Now don’t get offended…just read it.
Comment by Tracy1
Too funny. Right Wing Loon Tracy sends us to Rush Limbaugh’s site so that we can be educated and learn what he really meant.
Nice try Loon Tracy, but we are not morons like you.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:58 pmBy the way, the military is representative of all of society. There are liberals in the military (the proof is Abu Ghraib.. you don’t have Christian conservatives getting female soldiers pregnant and disobeying orders, abusing inmates). But Phony Soldiers are ones who LIE about what goes on in the war. Rush is right. If he were saying all soldiers who disagree with the war are phony soldiers I’d disagree with him. I know a couple soldiers who disagree with the war but they are not phony. This isn’t a matter of all soldiers, it’s a matter of fake, phony or lying soldiers making up the facts to suit their anti-war agenda.
Here are some other “phony soldiers”:
-Jesse MacBeth (doing jail time)
-Jimmy Massey
-Scott Thomas Beauchamp, the discredited “Baghdad Diaristâ€
-Amorita Randall
-Josh Lansdale (who was snatched up and appeared in Wesley Clark’s ad)
-Micah Wright
Heard of any of these, #57?
September 28th, 2007 at 4:59 pmBut, but, but, you’re the majority?
Comment by Michael
Loon Michael, are you a moron or what? A majority of 1 cannot overturn a filibuster threat. And that so called “majority” is not really a majority because LIEberman is more a Republic than a Democrat.
Why was it OK for the Republics to demand an “up or down vote”, but not the Democrats? Why was it wrong for the Democrats to filibuster but it’s OK for the Republics. What are you, a hypocrite? (that’s a rhetorical question, btw).
September 28th, 2007 at 5:01 pmThere are liberals in the military (the proof is Abu Ghraib.. you don’t have Christian conservatives getting female soldiers pregnant and disobeying orders, abusing inmates).
Proof? Or are you just full of sh*t?
September 28th, 2007 at 5:01 pmWhat number on the dd214 wayne?
Comment by Michael — September 28, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
if you have your dd214 you should know where your NEC is.
Too bad you didn’t even know what a dd214 was untill we told you months ago.
LMAO
September 28th, 2007 at 5:04 pmThey are so far to the left, they don’t represent the best interest of the democratic party, only their own.
Oh really, then why have they collected over a million dollars in the last week? Apparently a lot of liberals think that moveon.org has the best interest of the Democratic Party, more than the DLC and other party leaders.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:04 pmHey Michael, why don’t you explain to us how the issues raised by MoveOn’s ad is an attack on all the members of the military?
September 28th, 2007 at 5:07 pmI like the way you guys resort to name calling rather than fact checking.
This is a simple case of “Media Matters didn’t post the whole transcript”.
Loon, eh? I may be just a military wife with the highest award from the military to a military spouse (Mary Walker Award) but I don’t think that qualifies me as a “loon” (unless you’re asking John Kerry)
#92, you’ll notice Rush said “phony soldierS”. Plural. He was referring to them indirectly but specifically to Jesse MacBeth. There’s just no gettign around that fact.
#96, great logic. Have you ever heard Rush suggest a liberal’s mind can be changed by reason?
September 28th, 2007 at 5:10 pmEarth to hell, earth to hell. Come in hell.
He did clarify it for the better part of three hours today.
Comment by Vendetta
Right Wing Loon Vendetta thinks that we should all take Rush’s word for it that he was not slandering the military. He got caught with his pants down when he slurred our brave men and women in the military. Now, today, he has come up with some excuse saying that he was really talking about something else. They are good at that, the Right Wing Loons. They get caught with their pants down and then they either “misspoke”, were “misquoted” or “misunderstood”.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:13 pmI didn’t know what you were referring to by NEC.
Comment by Michael — September 28, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
You were in the Navy and you do not know what a NEC (Navy Enlisted Classification ) is.
Priceless.
“LMAO
Comment by Wayneâ€
Maybe at yourself?
Comment by Michael — September 28, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
Definately at you, Clown
September 28th, 2007 at 5:15 pmNever said it was.
Comment by Michael — September 28, 2007 @ 5:08 pm
So you agree it wasn’t and you denounce Cornyn’s amendment.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:15 pmI get it, “It was just a joke”.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:17 pmKeep drinking the kool-aid.
You guys trying to defend Rush are just pathetic.
Can you get more un-patriotic?
There are no phony soldiers in the US Military. To say there are is flat out wrong.
Amy, your post stating the Abu Gahraib disgrace was just that, disgraceful. To say they are liberal and then slander them is just wrong. You should know that there are many female soldiers getting pregnant and aren’t liberal or conservative or other.
I’m sure you know that christians in the military have sex. If you don’t ask your husband. I’m pretty sure he could inform you all types of soldiers are having sex. That is not a slam at you or your husband.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:17 pmDon’t take it personally Amy. It’s what liberals do when backed into a corner. Give em hell!
Comment by Michael — September 28, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
Yeah! Bring it on, Amy!
September 28th, 2007 at 5:18 pm“I like the way you guys resort to name calling rather than fact checking.
Comment by Amy Pâ€
We are supposed to “fact check” like you do? Believing anything that Right Wing Loons like Limbaugh and O’Reilly say? Or believing anything that the sociopath in the White House says? What most regular posters on this blog post here can be verified by links to reputable sources. You verify your sources by links to Faux Noise or Michelle Malkin.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:18 pmDidn’t read the amendment.
Comment by Michael — September 28, 2007 @ 5:20 pm
Maybe you should.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:22 pmLoon, eh? I may be just a military wife with the highest award from the military to a military spouse (Mary Walker Award) but I don’t think that qualifies me as a “loon†(unless you’re asking John Kerry) Amy P
Isn’t the internet grand. We can be anything we want to be and no one can prove otherwise (except when you can’t keep track of your age). I have a Nobel Prize in Mathematics, but I didn’t want to brag.
So you don’t like being called a Right Wing Loon. Well, you can thank your friend Billo for that term. I borrowed it from him and substituted Right for Left.
Even if you are who you say you are, that doesn’t mean you are not a Right Wing Loon. Everything that comes out of your mouth is Right Wing Lunacy.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:23 pmAnd then check out the MoveOn ad, because I doubt you’ve seen it.
And then come back and discuss why it was wrong for MoveOn to raise the issues they did in the ad.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:24 pmGAO: Wounded vets still getting shoddy treatment.
This was a thread earlier in the week. Only 20 posts, all in defense of the soldiers and disgust in this administration’s handling of them after being wounded.
None of the alarmists that are posting here to defend Rush were posting there.
selective patriotism? Or marching orders from the king dittohead himself.
phony patriots.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:25 pm“links to reputable sources.
Comment by bilbobagginsâ€
Like?
Comment by Michael
You don’t get out much do you Loon Michael? Many posts here have links to reputable sources. If you are asking me to list what kind of sources I deem reputable, all I can say is any source that is not run by right wing loons, like Faux Noise.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:26 pmI’m off to a football game, dudes. Will return later tonight. Have a good evening.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:26 pmThis was a thread earlier in the week. Only 20 posts, all in defense of the soldiers and disgust in this administration’s handling of them after being wounded.
Comment by hellinabucket — September 28, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
yeppers, and I posted there noting the lack of the trolls being there to condemn the shoddy treatment of the war wounded and veterans.
It is so telling.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:29 pmBut yet attack the blowhard and they come out of the woodwork.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:31 pmI wonder why Media Matters didn’t post the entire transcript? Hmmmm…Why, not even a link to the real transcript. I guess they know it’s easier to mislead a bunch of lefties with a partial transcript than to risk posting the entire thing.
Comment by Amy P — September 28, 2007 @ 4:42 pm
And I wonder why your transcript has no mention at all of the MacBeth story that the caller was supposedly referencing. Perhaps it’s because the name doesn’t show up until after Rush is off the phone with the caller and he starts talking about a previous broadcast.
The caller makes no reference to MacBeth, nor does the previous caller, who spoke out against the war and was told by Rush that he couldn’t really be a Republican if he didn’t support the war. In fact, Rush mocked him for his opinion.
The whole MacBeth strawman is intended to draw attention away from what anyone who is not a dittohead can see very clearly, in plain English. And the only people that even know who MacBeth is are the dittoheads that have been listening to Rush use him as an example of anti-war soldiers and Vets in an attempt to discredit their opinions.
The dishonest ones are Rush and you dittoheads.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:44 pmMichael, find that NEC yet?
Should be easier for you to fake now that you know what it is.
Absoloutly hilarious…..
September 28th, 2007 at 5:51 pmComment by Johnny Swank — September 28, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
You are here now, go back and read the thread then tell me what is more outrageous to you. The attacks on Rush or the neglect of our soldiers.
That’s why this is bogus.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:56 pmI am one of dem loony libruhl turds and I spent 6 whole years in the military! Must have been that fake military!
September 28th, 2007 at 6:02 pmI am one of dem loony libruhl turds and I spent 6 whole years in the military! Must have been that fake military!
Comment by PLU Tim — September 28, 2007 @ 6:02 pm
Thanks for your service, Tim
September 28th, 2007 at 6:08 pmBecause the contributers are using mom and dads credit cards. My neice in college happens to be one of them. MoveOn is hurting the democratic party. They are pushing middle of the road people out of the party. Clinton was elected by these middle of the road voters. They are almost as worse as the religous right in terms of how they hurt the party in the long run. Your card will always be safe bilbobaggins.
Comment by Johnny Swank
Hey Right Wing Loon Johnny - using their parents credit card? Is that anything like George Bush using your great grandchildren’s credit card to pay for the fiasco in Iraq?
You only wish that the people who support moveon.org are what you want to define them as. Too bad you are wrong. And you are wrong about what the people in this country want. A recent survey showed that a large majority of people in this country identify with liberal values on things like health care, education, and of course the war. You are dead Loon Johnny, you just won’t recognize it until one day in 2009 when you wake up with a Democratic President and a veto proof majority. Then your nightmare will begin.
September 28th, 2007 at 6:25 pmYes I did read it. His clarifcation was filled with attacks at Kerry.
I find this very telling. Defending someone whose admitted to being nothing more than an entertainer. His use of the term “phony soldier” is a poor choice of words and it inferred that there are active duty members that fit that catagory. Coming from someone who has never served is pitiful.
Didn’t see you post on the thread earlier this week that showed the disgraceful treatment the wounded vets are still receiving.
very telling.
Rush is an alarmist and rings your bell.
September 28th, 2007 at 6:26 pmHere you go Johnny, chew on this for a while:
http://people-press.org/ reports/ display.php3?ReportID=312
September 28th, 2007 at 6:30 pm#105
Comment by bilbobaggins — September 28, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
Dispute what is in the link or admit that you didn’t read it.
Comment by Tracy1
So Loon Tracy, this is a yes or no question. When did you stop beating your husband/wife? That is about as honest a question as telling people to go to Rush Limbaugh’s page and dispute what his excuses are for dissing soldiers. It can’t be done. You can’t dispute what someone wants you to believe or what someone believes in their own mind.
September 28th, 2007 at 6:32 pmPeople who have a broad understand of how our global economy works thinks of them for what they really are, FOOLS!
Comment by Michael — September 28, 2007 @ 5:08 pm
“People who… thinks?” Huh? Li’l problem w/ basic grammar?
September 28th, 2007 at 6:33 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — September 28, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
michael disappeared after I showed he has no credibility and made fun of it.
He will pop back eventually, like a slug crawling from under a rock.
September 28th, 2007 at 6:36 pmI know that you would never allow you mind to wander outside it’s narrow thinking parameters.
Comment by Tracy1
Sorry Loon Tracy, you are the one with narrow thinking parameters. You only listen to your Right Wing Loon talking heads and other MSM that verifies your right wing view of the world.
I read mostly liberal blogs because conservative blogs like redstate.org have banned me from even being able to view their page because I had the nerve to post something that challenged their myopic view of the world. Besides, I spend 5 minutes at a conservative blog site and I either want to throw up or take a bath. I can’t stand being in the presence of people who have so little compassion for their fellow human beings.
September 28th, 2007 at 6:42 pmComment by Tracy1 — September 28, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
Defending Rush is defending the indefensable.
Just like you cannot ever bring yourself to condemn the horrid treatment the war wounded and veterans are getting at the hands of the Bush (Mis)administration. Too drunk on koolaide.
September 28th, 2007 at 6:43 pm#59 Comment by Johnny Swank — September 28, 2007 @ 4:15 pm Here are his own words.
Right Wing Loon Johnny, like Right Wing Loon Amy, think that just because Limbaugh has made up a pile of hooey to try to justify what he said, we should all just believe him and give him the benefit of the doubt.
Sorry Loons, I won’t do that. This is not the first time that Limbaugh has disparaged people and then tried to talk his way out of it. The truth of the matter is that Limbaugh is a soulless slime who hates everything and anyone that doesn’t fit into his myopic view of the world.
September 28th, 2007 at 6:48 pmOh come on and can’t possibly be as bad as it is for me trying not to drown in this blog which is a big cest pool of intellectual dishonesty and crudeness.
Comment by Tracy1
Loon Tracy - I have a suggestion for you. Leave! I would never stay at a place that made me want to throw up, why would you want to do that?
And No, I did not read Rush Limbaugh’s excuse. Why should I? It will prove nothing other than the fact that the man has no soul and doesn’t know how to admit when he made a mistake.
Besides, I’ve read the analysis of the people who had the stomach to read his hooey and they pretty much say he’s full of it. That he didn’t mention his straw man until after the people he talked to were off the phone.
September 28th, 2007 at 6:54 pm“I had the nerve to post something that challenged their myopic view of the world.â€
Are you sure it wasn’t because of some personal insult you posted?
Of course it was because of an insult I posted. Right Wing Loons consider any opinion that is contrary to theirs to be a personal insult. I did not call anyone a name like your friends Billo, Rush and Hannity do, I simply expressed an opinion that was contrary to theirs (including a link to my data). They allowed me to do that, I think three times, before they banned me. Didn’t hurt my feelings except for the fact that they shot themselves in the foot. By banning my IP, they banned everyone who works at the company I work at from being able to view redstate.org. I doubt many of the people I work with would even want to go there, but you never know.
By your answer, I take it you think anyone who insults another poster should be banned. Well by following your rules, 90% of the Right Wing Loons who post here would have been banned a long time ago.
September 28th, 2007 at 6:59 pmDid YOU actually read the transcript from Rush’s show I posted for today?
Comment by Tracy1 — September 28, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
I read that and read where media matters caught Rush’s edit ofhis web site to cover up his mess. HILARIOUS.
Again, you avoid the veteran issue as well, figures.
September 28th, 2007 at 7:01 pmCite an example.
Comment by Tracy1
Michael J. Fox
September 28th, 2007 at 7:01 pmMichael J. Fox
Comment by bilbobaggins — September 28, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
Beat me to it.
September 28th, 2007 at 7:08 pmAre you sure it wasn’t because of some personal insult you posted? Comment by Tracy1 — September 28, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
So your response is to personally insult someone else as being insulting? Classic GOP.
Dude you didn’t even read the actual transcript from today…did you? Comment by Tracy1 — September 28, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
You mean where caller2 said real soldiers were all pro-iraq-war and Rush agreed? That transcript.
Oh come on and can’t possibly be as bad as it is for me trying not to drown in this blog which is a big cest pool of intellectual dishonesty and crudeness. Comment by Tracy1 — September 28, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
If you could critically read your own posts, and those of your fellow extremists you’d realize that the cesspool of intellectually dishonesty and crudeness you experience here emanates from you and your friends.
September 28th, 2007 at 8:35 pmComment by Ryan Neat — September 28, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
Good to see you on Ryan =)
Been a long time since I have seen that name
September 28th, 2007 at 8:46 pmComment by Tracy1 — September 28, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
Where did Rush apologize? Here?
So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act.”
That is not an apology. It is a conditional statement. “I will apologize if.”
Please…show us where Rush admitted to being wrong in his characterization, and where he said “I apologize.”
As for Clinton, yes, it was about the sex. Republicans were itching to get him out of office only months after he had taken office in 1993. Not only did they want to boot him out of office, they wanted to embarrass him to the fullest extent. They didn’t try to get him on anything that would have harmed national security like, say, selling nuclear secrets to China. Nope…not sensational enough. Paula Jones was their ticket. Poor little Paula was in it for the attention. I’m sure you recall her getting in front of the cameras for all the world to see and crying about how terrible her ordeal with Clinton had been. Her performance was so convincing that you’d think she couldn’t stand to be anywhere near Clinton, yet on two occasions after her crying stint, she appeared at a National Press Club event where Clinton also attended, and she showed up at an appearance by Clinton in a town that had been hit by a tornado. On top of that, this poor little victim was so overtaken by grief and so humiliated that she got a boob and nose job so that she’d look good on TV and posed nude in Playboy.
September 29th, 2007 at 12:26 am“BTW it was the lying to a grand jury that got him impeached not the affair.”
Comment by Tracy1
A grand jury which never would have heard his testimony if Starr hadn’t misued his powers as a special prosecutor. He was investigating a twenty-year-old land deal, remember, which had nothing to do with a consensual affair between two adults.
You neglect to tell the whole truth, literally every time you post.
September 29th, 2007 at 12:32 amThere are liberals in the military (the proof is Abu Ghraib.. you don’t have Christian conservatives getting female soldiers pregnant and disobeying orders, abusing inmates).
Comment by Amy P — September 28, 2007 @ 4:59 pm
Still waiting for your proof.
Besides, if anyone is a phony, it is you. To waltz in here and make such a pathetic claim as this, in only your third post in this thread, you aren’t even remotely serious about carrying on a serious discussion about the topic at hand. But like a good little troll, you drop in on one of the threads, drop a few sh*t bombs, and then disappear.
September 29th, 2007 at 12:34 amComment by Tracy1 — September 29, 2007 @ 9:24 am
Saying that you will apologize “if” is not an apology. It is the promise of an apology if a condition is met. “I apologize” is an apology, and Rush never did that.
September 29th, 2007 at 11:15 amAll those on their knees fellating Rush and spinning his crap need to realize that in the reality based world we know what he was saying and so do you. He was slandering every soldier who does nto have a political outlook that mirrors his own, and especially those who speak out. You are grasping at straws when you try to pull his discussions from earlier in the show into this debate. His message and meaning are very clear, stop the spinning.
September 29th, 2007 at 2:33 pmThis is ridiculous.
September 29th, 2007 at 3:50 pmI am an Iraq vet myself, and I would caution you all against trying to make a big deal over the Rush Limbaugh transcript from Media Matters.
In the audio and transcript they disseminated, they deliberately cut off the next things that Rush said. When Rush referred to “phoney soldiers” he was talking about fakes like Jesse Macbeth, who falsely claimed to be an Army ranger and Iraq veteran. You can hear the complete audio here:
http://homepage.mac.com/ mkoldys/ iblog/ C168863457/ E20070928194023/ index.html
What about it, Tracy? Where is Rush’s apology? Oh, that’s right. There wasn’t one.
Just as if I called you an idiot, and then a few days later say “I will apologize if my characterization of Tracy was wrong.”
If I never admit that I was wrong, then I haven’t apologized.
October 1st, 2007 at 12:29 pm