Fox analyst: ‘generals are betraying our soldiers.’
By on Sep 29th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
Fox analyst: ‘generals are betraying our soldiers.’
In an opinion column posted on Foxnews.com, Fox News analyst Col. David Hunt, a frequent guest on The O’Reilly Factor, declares that “Our generals are betraying our soldiers … again.” Hunt claims that “our generals put their careers over their men’s lives” and that “we should be putting these generals on trial.” Glenn Greenwald wonders if Hunt’s “attack on the honesty and integrity…of members of the United States Armed Forces” will be denounced on the Senate floor.
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Let’s get on with trials against these generals. Either that or they can wait for the Nuremberg-style war crimes tribunal that Bush & Cheney will be attending.
September 29th, 2007 at 2:14 pmBushCheney may believe that it’s over for them when they leave office; the truth is that when they are free it will be just the beginning of some serious problems for each of them.
September 29th, 2007 at 2:15 pmWe should be putting these generals on trial, first for going along with Rummy and just as important for not trusting their soldiers. At the very least, we should have a rule that states if you charge a soldier — like what happened in these cases — and they are cleared, YOU get charged and thrown in jail. Unfortunately, after the trials and after these soldiers’ careers and lives have been ruined and after they clear up the mountain of debt they will amass from these trials, the generals involved will get promoted.
Disgusting.
How low can Fox News go; putting a disgruntled former employee on too rag Our Military’s performance. Simply disgraceful!
September 29th, 2007 at 2:17 pmWatch FOX- ‘THE’ satanic network with ‘THE’ most anti-christian programming of any network.
Honest Press? Remember, We Sue, Rightfully, to Lie to You.
September 29th, 2007 at 2:19 pmBush betrayed our soldiers long before they took to the field of battle (from Crooks and Liars):
How much money does Bush think a US soldier’s life is worth? How much money does Bush think the lives of our allies’ soldiers or innocent Iraqis are worth?
As we’re finding out, not very much. On March 17, 2003 President Bush issued the warning: “Saddam Hussein and his sons must leave Iraq within 48 hours. Their refusal to do so will result in military conflict commenced at a time of our choosing ,†yet now thanks to a transcript leaked to the Spanish newspaper El Pais, we learn that more than three weeks prior to that Bush had told former Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar that “The Egyptians are speaking to Saddam Hussein. It seems he’s indicated he would be prepared to go into exile if he’s allowed to take $1 billion …†When confronted about the leaked transcript yesterday, Whitehouse spokeswoman Dana Perino did not dispute its accuracy.
Just last week we learned from former Fed Chair Alan Greenspan that the real reason behind the war in Iraq was oil , and now we are finding out that the entire war could have been averted for letting him get away with $1 billion. That’s just than one tenth of 1% of what this insane invasion and occupation of Iraq, that continues claim the lives of our country’s bravest men and women, has now been forcast to cost. Think about that just for a second. Every single death, Iraqi and American coalition alike, could have been saved and Bush could have had Saddam’s oil, but apparently he didn’t even seriously consider it. Topping that, he then lied in public to the entire world about it just so he could have his war regardless. How’s that for compassionate conservatism?
September 29th, 2007 at 2:33 pm“Aren’t you the same person who, just a few topics ago, defended MoveOn’s right to do the very same thing? Or was someone namejacking back there?”
Comment by O. Bigfoot
That was me. I guess you have a hard time distinguishing sarcasm.
And it isn’t “the very same thing.” Fox’s analyst made a straight-forward assertion – not the tactic used by Fox (and MoveOn).
September 29th, 2007 at 2:36 pmComment by O. Bigfoot — September 29, 2007
Remember Carville saying, “Its the economy, stupid” ?
Its the hypocrisy stupid!
September 29th, 2007 at 2:38 pmIts the hypocrisy stupid!
Comment by Xisithrus — September 29, 2007 @ 2:38 pm
You’re right on both counts, Xisithrus. It is about the hypocrisy, and yes, Li’l Foot is simply TOO STUPID to get it.
September 29th, 2007 at 2:42 pmSo Bigfoot, feeling a little conned now that we learn Bush could have removed Saddam for a paltry billion dollars? We’ve spent more than that on death benefits, hospitalization and rehab of the troops killed and maimed.
Mission Accomplished? We could have bought Saddam off on the cheap – but then Bush couldn’t have swaggered on an aircraft carrier, glad-handing the same troops he was consigning to death because he wouldn’t pony up a measly billion dollars.
September 29th, 2007 at 2:45 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — September 29, 2007
Yeh, just watch the Republicans wont vote for the resolution to condemn Rush, or this guy Hunt. And if they dont they need to rescind the one against moveon.org or alter the wording to include FOX, Rush and Hunt.
September 29th, 2007 at 2:47 pmSo Bigfoot, feeling a little conned now that we learn Bush could have removed Saddam for a paltry billion dollars? -Barfly
Heck Bremer lost 8 times as much in cash over there.
September 29th, 2007 at 2:49 pmResolution condeming both Fox News and Rush Limbaugh! Otherwise, cowardly hypocrites…
September 29th, 2007 at 2:50 pmOnce a soldier reaches the rank of Colonel they’re a politician. That means they’re fair game.
September 29th, 2007 at 2:50 pm“Resolution condeming both Fox News and Rush Limbaugh! Otherwise, cowardly hypocrites…”
Comment by dantheman
A “news organization” who hires a traitor like Ollie North would find Limbaugh a valued resource.
September 29th, 2007 at 2:56 pmWe can count on Fox bring a blind eye and to speak out of one side (the far right) of their mouths. Pitiful bunch of liars. They would serve the country better standing at a top sign asking for spare change.
September 29th, 2007 at 2:57 pmtop should read stop.
September 29th, 2007 at 2:57 pmBush couldn’t have swaggered on an aircraft carrier, glad-handing the same troops he was consigning to death because he wouldn’t pony up a measly billion dollars.
Comment by barfly — September 29, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
Don’t hold yer breath Barfly. Li’l Footie is only capable of recognizing his own facts. Back before Bush launched his unilateral, illegal, ghoulish attack on and invasion of a broken down, 3rd world, OIL-RICH country, there was an article in the local big-city newspaper about this offer. I was stunned at the time.
This entire bloody nightmare could have been avoided apparently. Somewhere near to a million dead Iraqis, all the dead, maimed, and crippled American soldiers, the enormous crushing cost, the hostility burning like crazy all across the ME, the alienation around the world…
But then, Kommander Kodpiece and Dick “Five Deferments” Cheney couldn’t have been “Warriors” then, could they?
It’s just not infuriating. It’s repulsive beyond the ability of the word to carry the meaning.
September 29th, 2007 at 3:00 pmI guess Faux NoNooz can now be officially called the BushCo War Mongering network. Between this sick f@ck Hunt, billo’s continuous rants about the left being “traitors”, their recent Betrayus fluffer piece and the “Bomb Iran” sales pitch, they seem to have all the warmongering bases covered.
September 29th, 2007 at 3:08 pm“Don’t hold yer breath Barfly. ”
Biggie secretly loves the abuse we heap upon him. It validates his existence, such as it is.
September 29th, 2007 at 3:10 pmthey seem to have all the warmongering bases covered.
Comment by upside99 — September 29, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
They certainly have the “fluffler” part down cold…
September 29th, 2007 at 3:10 pmIt validates his existence, such as it is.
Comment by barfly — September 29, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
I sadly suspect yer right about that. His opinions are so one-sided and irrational, I can’t believe even he takes himself seriously.
September 29th, 2007 at 3:11 pmTruthot.org posted a thread this morning.Why doe’s Bush need 190 billion if he plan’s to draw down troop’s next year.? Been wondering that myself.
Next….Read in several places last year (on the old computer) and was not able to save….We were in debt more than 11 trillion then and that did not count the supplemental war fund’s….Hummmmmm.
For your research enjoyment and part of the reason for my rage since 2000…In the patriot act is wording somewhere that absolves and make’s it imposible for us to try this bunch in the administration for their crime’s after they leave office….This was put in the second one.
In the first patriot act there is wording that say’s basicly the president can go to war on any country…This is when I become so vocal with our representative’s and found out basicly few if any of them even read the entire bill they voted on…
I’m gonna go hug a bunch of trees….Blessings
September 29th, 2007 at 3:40 pmIsn’t interesting that Co. D. Hunt can say :”Our generals are BETRYING our soldiers”and Fox network seems to agree,
September 29th, 2007 at 3:49 pmbut if Moveon says:” general Petraeus BETRAYING us ” it is a big time outcry that demands a Congress, Senate resolutions and condemnation. So, if it is ‘plural-generals’…it is OK, but if its ’singular-general’…it is not OK.
I looked in vain on this thread for comments from our house “conservatives” criticizing Col. Hunt and Fox News in the strongest terms, for criticizing active duty general officers. All we’ve been hearing from these people for weeks is how heinous the “slander” against Gen. Petraeus was and how there was no excuse at all for criticizing the “troops”, including generals.
So, O. Bigfoot? Rory? Vendetta?
Crickets . . .
September 29th, 2007 at 4:08 pmFor those who haven’t seen it, here are some phony soldiers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A3dKDig6wQ
September 29th, 2007 at 4:30 pmThe FOCUS must remain on the substance of the fact that the generals are putting their careers before the welfare of their troops. Forget about the namby-pamby of sense of the Senate resolutions condemning this or that–focus on the troops!
September 29th, 2007 at 5:03 pmI will have to withhold judgement until I see the exchange in it’s entirety.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 29, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
Won’t matter… you never acknowldege the true anyways…
September 29th, 2007 at 5:11 pmComment by O. Bigfoot — September 29, 2007
What? You cant click on the FOX link cited above?
September 29th, 2007 at 5:15 pmAnd as for critisizing Col. Hunt for his comments, I will have to hear them for myself, in complete context, before I can directly address what he said.
There has been even more dishonesty than usual on the liberal blogs lately when it comes quotes being taken out of context. I will have to withhold judgement until I see the exchange in it’s entirety.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 29, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
You really are pathetic. He *WROTE* the words posted on foxnews.com as the link in the article makes very clear. It’s at most three minutes of reading, Bigfoot.
I’m unlikely to see you either criticize the colonel for something you’ve been screeching madly about liberals doing, or to apologize for suggesting that the colonel was misquoted. You’re not an honest person, nor are you particularly conscious of what is going on around you.
September 29th, 2007 at 5:19 pmWhat? You cant click on the FOX link cited above?
Comment by Xisithrus — September 29, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
No time! No time! Must run off and avoid acknowledging error.
September 29th, 2007 at 5:21 pmIt’s at most three minutes of reading, Bigfoot.
Comment by gummitch — September 29, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
There’s yer problem right there, gummitch. It would take about 2 and 1/2 minutes longer than Li’l Footie can manage…
September 29th, 2007 at 5:22 pmOur generals are betraying our soldiers … again -David Hunt
Seems pretty clear to me that he is calling the generals betrayers Big (O).
September 29th, 2007 at 5:22 pmSeems pretty clear to me that he is calling the generals betrayers Big (O).
Comment by Xisithrus — September 29, 2007 @ 5:22 pm
That’s why Li’l Footie’s havin’ problems wi’t it, Xisithrus. It IS clear.
D-OH!!!
September 29th, 2007 at 5:24 pmNo time! No time! Must run off and avoid acknowledging error.
Comment by gummitch
LOL. I think hypocrisy is bred into their genes, they simply will not ackknowledge truth, even when it comes from their beloved news source.
September 29th, 2007 at 5:25 pmThat’s why Li’l Footie’s havin’ problems wi’t it, Xisithrus. It IS clear.
D-OH!!! Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Indeedly diddly-dooo naybor!
September 29th, 2007 at 5:27 pm“Libs debate best when there is no debate at all.”
Comment by O. Bigfoot
How would you know? You haven’t actually tried to debate anything, simply regurgitate the latest wingblog agitprop. Slapping down your spin is like shooting a fish in a barrel – over, and over, and over…
September 29th, 2007 at 5:37 pm“Full page NYT [sweetheart deal] ad” less important than coward smearing all soldiers who disagree with the mission.
September 29th, 2007 at 5:41 pmObscure essay =/= Full page NYT [sweetheart deal] ad.
Comment by Toliver — September 29, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
And we are stunned and amazed that another wingnut comes up with a totally lame excuse for not acknowledging that a fellow “conservative”, who is a regular contributor on FoxNews, has “slandered” not one, but multiple generals, on active duty in the US military.
Most of the time, the wingnuts like to brag about how important and influential FoxNews is, and ditto (heh) O’Reilly. Suddenly, they’ve been reduced to obscurity. Ah, not important. Doesn’t count. Blah blah blah NY Times!
September 29th, 2007 at 5:53 pmThere has been even more dishonesty than usual on the liberal blogs lately when it comes to quotes being taken out of context. I will have to withhold judgement until I see the exchange in it’s entirety.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 29, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
That’s because liberal blogs permit dishonest posts from people like you, and you folks have been even more dishonest than usual…
September 29th, 2007 at 6:08 pmDon’t know if this guy is a conservative or nott, but he went tooo far.
Again the essay is obscure as this cat isn’t even syndicated as far as I know.
The MoveOn ad was a full page smear that targeted one man by name. Big difference.
Comment by Toliver — September 29, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
It’s so obscure it’s on foxnews.com. The advertisement would have rapidly faded into obscurity if not for wingnuts screeching about it.
I do agree, though, there is a big difference. The ad specifically targeted one person, while this column generically targets the entire general staff.
“goes too far”? “Our generals are betraying our soldiers” goes too far? Writing a whole column about this betrayal is worse than a headline on an advertisement? Doesn’t the stench of hypocrisy bother you at all?
September 29th, 2007 at 6:15 pmI found that Faux Noise article totally disgusting in more than one way. But what disgusted me the most is the person writing it thought it was just peachy keen that the army would “bait” people by leaving ammunition or a faulty gun lying around. Then if someone picked it up, they shot them. It doesn’t matter if the person picking it up was innocent. Maybe it was a dad picking it up so his kids wouldn’t get their hands on it. And this writer is mad because the Generals are supposedly prosecuting the troops who were ordered to do this. That is news to me. I’ve never read anything about that before.
But what I have read is Sargents ordering their men to kill someone the Sargent deemed someone who should be killed, and the Sargent told the soldier to plant something on the dead person so that it looked like it was a terrorist. Well, it was the soldier who was charged with a crime, not the Sargent who ordered the soldier to do it. Since our soldiers do not have the privilege of refusing a direct order, the person who committed that murder was the Sargent, not the soldier. But the Sargent got away scott free and the soldier is going to prison for planting the evidence on the body. That’s where there is something seriously wrong with our military system of justice.
September 29th, 2007 at 6:18 pmAgain the essay is obscure as this cat isn’t even syndicated as far as I know.
The MoveOn ad was a full page smear that targeted one man by name. Big difference.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7944/moveonthugbq0.jpg
Comment by Toliver — September 29, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
You mean like Rush’s smear of Murtha to millions of listeners, targeting him by name? That kind of smear?
September 29th, 2007 at 6:20 pmOr Toliver, were you referring to smears against Max Cleland, Al Gore and John Kerry? You wingnuts are at the heart of virtually ever smear in recent political history, hypocrite.
September 29th, 2007 at 6:22 pmFor those who haven’t seen it, here are some phony soldiers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A3dKDig6wQ
Comment by Candyce
Rush Limbaugh should be put in a soundproof room and made to watch that clip for 24 hours straight. I am weeping as I am writing this. What have we done?
September 29th, 2007 at 6:27 pmThere has been even more dishonesty than usual on the liberal blogs lately when it comes quotes being taken out of context. I will have to withhold judgement until I see the exchange in it’s entirety.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
It’s not hard OBigFootInMouth. Just go to the link and read the article. It should not be hard for you, it’s on Fox and you love fox. Then come back and tell us why it’s ok for this guy to say that these Generals are Betraying the Soldiers but it is not OK for moveon.org to say that Betrayus is betraying his soldiers and his country. I’m not holding my breath because doing this would take some courage and honesty and you have neither.
September 29th, 2007 at 6:31 pmYou mean like Rush’s smear of Murtha to millions of listeners, targeting him by name? That kind of smear?
Comment by Ryan Neat
Or Rush’s smear on Chuck Hagel calling him Betrayus?
I am constantly amazed at the level of hyprocracy the right can raise to. It seems endless.
September 29th, 2007 at 6:32 pmThe MoveOn ad was a full page smear that targeted one man by name. Big difference.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7944/moveonthugbq0.jpg
Comment by Toliver
You are right, there is a difference. One General, multiple Generals. Speaking out against one General is definitely worse than speaking out against a multiple of Generals. NOT!
Your critical thinking skills are on the par of an 8 year old. Perhaps you should take a class at your local junior college. It will do you a world of good.
September 29th, 2007 at 6:35 pmMost of us thinking people have had it with divisive media like Fox.
Maybe that is why Obama, who won’t appear on Fox after they smeared him mercilessly, is gaining steam. He reminds me of Clinton in ‘92. Obama now leads Clinton in likely Iowa caucus-goers. Let’s not forget Dean, McCain and all the other early leaders who nearly always flame out by the end. Right on the war when it mattered, a uniter and very principled, Obama is a good one to watch.
http://rawstory.com//news/2007/Obama_leads_pack_among_Iowa_likely_0929.html
September 29th, 2007 at 6:41 pmgive us some of Soros’ bullet points then Bigfoot – fact us all up
September 29th, 2007 at 6:55 pm….what a joke.
September 29th, 2007 at 6:56 pmThinking people know the truth, and the only truths spoken on lib websites like this comes from the opposition, not from the parrots.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 29, 2007 @ 6:52 pm
How are you doing, plowing through that looooong column by the colonel?
You’re not only dishonest, you’re arrogant in your own dishonesty and ignorance.
September 29th, 2007 at 6:56 pmhell, gum, folks like that are proud of what they don’t know.
September 29th, 2007 at 7:00 pmI have let go of my rage over Cor(hole)yn and the backstabbing psuedo-Democrats’ attempt to derail MoveOn’s cogent advertisement about the Petraeus appearances before Congress.
I am afraid they succeeded. We are talking about NeoCon hypocrisy (no suprise/news/talking points there) when we should be talking about the weakness of Petreaus’s defense of the current corrupt, crooked administration’s disasterous occupation and destruction of Iraq.
Petraeus was pitiful in his defense. He had no “successes” to report. He simply tried to distract the Congress from the indefensible disaster that comprises our ham-handed actions in Iraq, just as the MoveOn.org ad predicted.
Talking about the NeoCons’ hypocrisy, is like talking about their whoring for their pimps, the corrupt global conglomerates, or their love of money, or their hateful denigration of people of color, or their lack of morals, integrity, and honesty, or their decitful warmongering. Hypocrisy, like the rest of their moral faults is an integral part of their so-called “character.” They are mostly criminals waiting to be indicted.
So, I prefer to talk about how we, as progressives, can cut through NeoCon fake “issues” and their distraction stratagies and begin to establish a pogressive coalition that can elect some more Democrats like Dennis Kucinich to the House and Senate, and eventually to the Presidency. I don’t think that will happen all at once in 2008, or even in 2010 or 2012, but if we keep our eyes on what is important, and refuse to let the NeoCons, and their trolls, distract us, I think it will happen eventually.
Talking about NeoCon, and NeoCon troll, hypocrisy won’t cut it!
September 29th, 2007 at 7:22 pmSurely he must be talking about Petreaus and Pace. In that case, I would have to agree. They get the air conditioned offices and play at politics while the troops doing the hard, dangerous work are dying.
September 29th, 2007 at 7:30 pmWhatever happened to the lessons we learned from Nuremberg. It’s no excuse to say you were just following orders. A good soldier knows not to comply when his superiors are issuing illegal, immoral or otherwise improper orders.
September 29th, 2007 at 7:36 pmWould some progressives please weigh in on my comment @ 7:22 pm? The NeoCon troll has already spouted crap about “real issues” without delineating them, as usual.
I was speaking to progressives, not the distracting NeoCon trolls.
UNDER THE BRIDGE, TROLLS!
September 29th, 2007 at 7:40 pmIt’s not going to happen, because the people of the United States know what the real issues are.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 29, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
Actually, it is happening. the people of the United States do know what the issues are, but the traitors of the Unuted States (Bigfoot, et al), are constantly creating facts where there never were any, following the lead of the traitor Bush, who never, ever, talked about destroying the Republican Guard as a goal, of democtratizing Iraq as a goal, until his first handful of lies had been thrown back in his treasonous face. Bigfoot has no case, except a caseful of lies, and he’s not demonstrating arrogance, but fear and ignorance. Bigfoot has no truth, and every post is another set of treasonous, twisted lies in the service of his party, over his country. The very fact that he refuses to enlist to fight this war is the proof of his cowardice and treason. Like all sociopaths, he lacks the capacity for shame and self-examination. We can only feel very, very sorry for his family members, whom he will happily send off to die for his lies.
September 29th, 2007 at 7:52 pmFunny, bigfoot, rightwing propaganda in place of facts. Who would have guessed? Not a word of truth, just the same old worn-out, made-up bullshit by antiAmerican scum.
September 29th, 2007 at 7:54 pmWrong, gummitch. I am correct.
The wise among you know it, but cannot admit it for fear of losing face. The ignorant among you cannot admit it primarily due to lack of knowledge. The stupid among you refuse to face the facts.
Am I arrogant in my knowledge? Certainly. I have no problem with that.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 29, 2007 @ 7:26 pm
Did they have a special on bloated egos at the liquor store, or what?
Has someone read you the referenced article yet, and are you ready to denounce this retired colonel for libeling American generals? Or are you still working on some manner of weaseling?
All this puffed-up horsesh!t about your “knowledge” would be funny if it wasn’t so creepy.
September 29th, 2007 at 7:59 pmDid someone say we’re winning in Iraq? hahahahahaha!
September 29th, 2007 at 8:00 pmBetween Boehner, Limpbaugh and now Fox “News”, Bush sure will be busy calling people “disgusting”, won’t he?
September 29th, 2007 at 8:00 pmOr, he’ll continue to be a giant hypocrite.
Want some real issues, dipshit? How about: U.S. security. Economy. Low unemployment. Dealing with Iran’s meddling in Iraq. Winning in Iraq.
You “Progressives†only know the issues TP, MoveOn, and KOS provide for you every morn. The liberal talking points of the day.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 29, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
Your list is missing a few: deficit, national debt, subprime loans, health care, erosion of civil liberties, the “unitary executive”, military preparedness . . .
I’d say you got all your talking points from FoxNews, but apparently even they are too difficult for you to follow.
September 29th, 2007 at 8:02 pmO, Bigpoot, you are so mercifully free of the ravages of intelligence.
September 29th, 2007 at 8:03 pmBigfoot, all of the issues you listed were much more positive when Clinton was president. Better security, better economy, better unemployment numbers, better iraq situation, better iran situation. it wasn’t until Bush stole the White House that Al Qaeda mounted a successful attack on the WTC and the Pentagon (THE PENTAGON!), with the leader and planner of those attacks still at large. Good job, neocon cowards, good job. You are wrong, utterly and completely, and claiming you are right only makes you look even weaker and more out-of-touch than the weakling in the White House.
September 29th, 2007 at 8:09 pmOMG, Congress must act immediately, drop everything and begin drafting a resolution to respond to this outrage! Someone criticized the military. This will not stand. Why even have a Congress unless it’s to tell us what’s acceptable speech and what isn’t? This is the most important thing in the world!
There, now I’m a Republican.
September 29th, 2007 at 8:19 pmThere you have the facts. Anything else we need to cover today? I’ve got to get to cooking some steaks…
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 29, 2007 @ 8:21 pm
Run off quickly, because none of your “facts” stand any scrutiny at all, even when you attempt to offer “facts” rather than your retarded “non-issue” response. Clearly, you’re more than happy with the notion of an over-powering executive, you’re in denial about the state of the armed forces (ask the generals how prepared we are), you’ve got health coverage so tough noogies for everyone else, ditto the poor saps encouraged by the head of the federal reserve to take the subprime loans handed out by the fed head’s pals, and the massive debt being created by this “conservative” administration is no concern to you because, hell, you’ll be dead and those aren’t really your kids anyway.
You’re a great example of a pathetic, head-in-the-sand pseudo-conservative. Enjoy your steaks.
September 29th, 2007 at 8:31 pmDon’t let us hold you up.
September 29th, 2007 at 8:32 pmSomeone should request equal time for all the sewage directly from wh message machine flowing out the fraud “news” big pipe.
September 29th, 2007 at 8:34 pmWatch out as they tear down the military and justify rampaging private killers the dollar costs will climb.
Keep an eye where all the profits are.
Only a short time left now to drain what’s left of any gold and bushcon is after that too.
Remember both sides or in this case all the different sides must have guns, bombs and supplies to continue the freefall in the desert.
And bushcon have to establish enough out-of-control fires throughout the world to keep the ammo machines churning no matter who get’s what’s left in 09.
Don’t be distracted.
Who ever said this amount could be spent?But why no stopping??
Must be very good business for the wh bomb salesmen.
I’ve provided plenty of facts. That you choose to ignore what doesn’t fit George Soros’ vision for a “New Americaâ€, is your problem, not mine.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 29, 2007 @ 6:52 pm
As opposed to Bill Kristol and the Neocons’ vision of a “New America”?
September 29th, 2007 at 8:46 pmI smell burning cow…
September 29th, 2007 at 8:48 pmIgnore the facts, Lefty, it just makes you look more pathetic while you spout your George Soros talking points. Perhaps you need to get your news from some places other than ThinkProgress….
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 29, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
Irony piled on irony.
Would you suggest news sources like, oh, NewsMax or the Grudge Report? Because we certainly wouldn’t want to be stuck with a bunch of “talking points.” We want to be a genius like you!
September 29th, 2007 at 8:49 pmIgnore the facts, Lefty, it just makes you look more pathetic while you spout your George Soros talking points. Perhaps you need to get your news from some places other than ThinkProgress….
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 29, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
Sorry, you poor, deluded liar. All the numbers were far better under Clinton. i know it’s uncomfortable for a loser like you to admit, but it’s just a fact. All the numbers were better under Clinton. 8 years of peace and prosperity, what a horrible nightmare for you rightard whackjobs. Republicans are fiscally reckless, failures at national defense, and perverts on a universal scale. No wonder you don’t want to look at the truth, you’d shoot yourself.
September 29th, 2007 at 8:50 pmYou’re a great example of a pathetic, head-in-the-sand pseudo-conservative. Enjoy your steaks.
Comment by gummitch — September 29, 2007 @ 8:31 pm
That’s not “sand” he’s got his head stuck in, or, perhaps “UP” would be more descriptive…
September 29th, 2007 at 8:52 pmNot a word of truth, just the same old worn-out, made-up bullshit by antiAmerican scum.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 29, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
Wow! Listen to him describe himself w/ such candor and accuracy…
September 29th, 2007 at 8:53 pmDefecit and national debt: Irrelevant. We’ve paid it back before, we can do it again.
America will be a third world country by the time we pay off that 9 trillion dollar deficit.
Winning in Iraq is the issue, money should not be an issue in that cause. Borrow more if need be.
If you borrow more, you decrease the value of dollar.
Subprime loans: People shouldn’t have borrowed what they couldn’t pay back.
The lenders shouldn’t have made loans to people who couldn’t afford them.
The problem is minor and is being worked on by both loan companies and the Federal Government.
I think we have a major problem on our hands. And I don’t think the government should be helping any lenders who made loans people who couldn’t afford them.
Buy a house for a place to live, not as an investment you think you are going to make money from. Net effect to the economy: negligable.
The economy depends on people taking equity out of their homes and spending the money.
Health Care: Red Herring issue. Health care is fine in this country. Only liberal scare tactics try to make this an issue.
Nah, There’s a crisis.
Civil Liberties: No erosion, no issue. You have more freedom today than the day Bush took office.
Nah, there has been erosions.
The “Unitary Executiveâ€: Non-issue.
Nah, big issue.
September 29th, 2007 at 9:06 pmYou like to make up stuff, don’t you?
Comment by Zooey — September 29, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
He’s a manly man’s con, Zooey. He’s making his own reality, just like Fox News and Bush Admin. That’s why nothing gets across to him. You can call him on his lies a hundred times, document ‘em endlessly, and he’s just going keep repeating them. He thinks if he says it enough times, it’ll become true, because he says so.
He’s a stone fraud, period.
Please feel free to copy and paste this on every thread Li’L Footie shows up on. Mebbe we can laugh him offa this site.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — September 29, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
September 29th, 2007 at 9:10 pmNo gay Republicans or Iranians.
I just heard Sam Seder on the Ring of Fire podcast from last week. Sam was talking about Larry Craig and the Republican politicians and I think he was right on.
Sam said that the gay Republican politicians are in the closet and repressed. This explains their bizarre illegal behavior like Craig admittedly soliciting gay sex in an airport bathroom stall. It explains that Republican official in Florida recently caught trying to explain his buying a blowjob from an undercover police officer in a bathroom stall by saying he was afraid of black people. It explains Haggerty and his drug addiction and gay affair.
Sam said he personally knows of at least two other Republican Senators he thinks are gay. I’m guessing Lindsay Graham, a former JAG officer no less (a double whammy with the Republican we don’t want gays in the military policy).
Sam recounted how he walked the floor of the Republican convention trying to find a single person who would admit they were gay. He said he walked and walked. Finally someone took him aside and pointed him to an admittedly gay Republican delegate from Florida. Sam said the man was about 64 years old and had undergone a life changing self-realization. Sam said the man was almost crying as he told Sam, if I don’t stay here who will voice the opinion of gay people? That is the only gay person Sam could find. Right.
So all this brings me to, who else, the evil object of Republicans’ obsessions – Ahmadinejad. When asked about gay people at Columbia, Ahmadinejad said, oh no, we don’t have those kind of people in Iran. The crowd burst out laughing at how ridiculous and homophobic the statement was. That is how out of touch the Republican Party is today. No gays in Iran. No gays in the Republican Party.
PS Sam speculated that the person who had the enormous juice to set that gay prostitute up with a phony security clearance and press pass for hundreds of “social visits” to the White House is none other than Rove. That would be the ultimate irony. The master gay basher – the biggest of them all – pulling hundreds of Larry Craig’s in the White House. Seder speculated that shortly after the gay prostitute in the White House scandal a story was floated that Rove was having a heterosexual affair to act as cover for Rove’s real sexual orientation. It reminds me of hearing Palast say after reading hundreds of Rove’s emails which he accidentally sent to the wrong address (a friend of Palast’s), that he would not comment on Rove’s sexual orientation. Palast said it in such a way that raised an issue in my mind. Normally I couldn’t care less about a person’s sexual orientation, but it would be highly relevant for Rove because he is the ringleader of gay bashers in the Republican Party. Rove put the issue in play. Anyway, it’s all speculation, just based on someone else’s public statement.
September 29th, 2007 at 9:16 pmHe’s a stone fraud, period.
Please feel free to copy and paste this on every thread Li’L Footie shows up on. Mebbe we can laugh him offa this site.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — September 29, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Not to mention, he has yet to respond to the thread: a retired colonel, a regular contributor to FoxNews, has maligned acting general staff. Where is the outrage from the “conservatives”? Where is the outrage from O. Bigfoot? Doesn’t hypocrisy leave a nasty taste in the mouth?
I think we should ask him these questions wherever he raises his scaly head.
September 29th, 2007 at 9:18 pmDoesn’t hypocrisy leave a nasty taste in the mouth?
I think we should ask him these questions wherever he raises his scaly head.
Comment by gummitch — September 29, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
If Li’l Footie has a nasty taste in his mouf, I assures ya, it ain’t jes’ from hypocrisy!
September 29th, 2007 at 9:39 pmps Bigfoot – I’ll take what Soros advocates over the psychos of PNAC any day of the week.
cultist.
September 29th, 2007 at 10:26 pmI’ve provided plenty of facts. That you choose to ignore what doesn’t fit George Soros’ vision for a “New Americaâ€, is your problem, not mine.
Once I have spoken, my job is done. It’s your choice whether to believe or not.
Thinking people know the truth, and the only truths spoken on lib websites like this comes from the opposition, not from the parrots.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — September 29, 2007 @ 6:52 pm
You have provided ZERO facts. You consider a fact to be anything that you say or anything that you cite from your Right Wing Loon websites.
Here are some facts for you, read them and weep:
http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=312
September 29th, 2007 at 10:56 pm“Just like a kook liberal, when the facts don’t fit, ignore the facts.”
Coming from a WMD bedwetter, I can’t decide if this is truly hilarious, or just sadly pathetic.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:55 am> I’ve provided plenty of facts.
like those specific numbers for the specific amounts Abrahmhoff contributed to democrats? still waiting for those…. maybe micheal can help you, he’s so fact obsessed in sure he has them.
> Am I arrogant in my knowledge?
>Certainly. I have no problem with that.
Right.. your too stupid to realise that someone who doesnt understand the difference between “accoutant” and “accountability” doesnt deserve to be arrogant about his vocabularly, let alone his worldly knowledge in general.
Figures though, that someone who beleives Bush is a good president has NO idea what the word “accoutability” means, or what an accountant does (balance the books, something bush is incapeable of).
But then again, you’re supporting a party whose current 2008 frontrunner insists we can pay for one tax cut by making a second one…
You’re white trash, redneck scum. Period. Your wife is obviously an even worse judge of character than you, or she’d still be with the father of her children instead of making what could only be considered a fall down the evolutionary ladder by marrying you.
Please explain your intellectual or educational background that makes you deludedly beleive your better than any of us?
>you spout your George Soros talking points.
right, its just you poor common folk against us champagne sipped burgoies fruitcakes, such a shame you have no ridiculously rich right wing people to help you out in your crusade to manipulate popular opinion..
September 30th, 2007 at 7:52 am