Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — September 30, 2007 @ 12:38 pm

McCain didn’t say non-Christians shouldn’t be able to hold the office of president, only that people should consider the candidate’s faith when voting. He made this statement based upon the fact that the majority of people in this country claim to be Christians. ;)

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

United States Constitution, Article VI, Paragraph 3.

Nothing more need be said.

How Long Before McCain Apologizes? At the top of the Huffington Post we have John McCain’s remark that he’d prefer a president who has a “solid grounding in my faith.” I’m in New York, about to take a flight for Las Vegas (to give a speech, not to gamble). My question is: how long before McCain apologizes? Before I land?
P.S. I’ve just landed in Las Vegas and McCain has already clarified his statement.
-Arianna Huffington
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

This is from the Treaty of Tripoli:
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/treaty_tripoli.html

News flash!

“But I just have to say in all candor that since this nation was founded primarily on Christian principles, personally, I prefer someone who I know who has a solid grounding in my faith.” – John McCain

Voices I respect much more:

The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.

— John Adams

It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible.

— Thomas Paine

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between church and State.

— Thomas Jefferson

These quotes are direct and very easy to understand even for the likes of you, Mr. McCain.

ugh… why did you even have to go there…

it doesn’t matter.
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Art IV, Clause 3: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Sorry, Sen McCain, Darryl, and anyone else who agrees with these two people, but the constitution specifically prohibits what you are advocating. You can’t have religious freedom in this country if our government officials are only allowed to adhere to one set of religious beliefs. Besides, what evidence (meaning, something based on provable facts) do you have that we atheists aren’t right?

Thank you. Wasn’t Locke’s work nearly plagerized for the Declaration? Weren’t terms like ’self-evident’ scientific terms of the time? I get so tired of the idea that the Bible was used directly when there’s more evidence that it wasn’t. Our founding is based on life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness regardless of faith.

Human Goodness has nothing to do with religion, but a lot to do with how one is raised. love, security, guidelines.

Only the lowest of the low (or the most fearful & so the most dangerous) are trying to coopt God and Religion to further their own political agendas…

Our Constitution was created to protect US, the PEOPLE from those who seek to be all powerful and destroy our government. (and there are always people and forces who seek to do that in whatever guise they choose to hide their ambition) That is why we had separation of church & state, balance of power between the branches, habeus corpus etc.

Now we see again the scalywags who would use religion and religiousity to gain and hold power.

If you mix religion with government you create a monster of huge powerful proportions …and because PEOPLE are not GODS they misuse this power. Saying you belong to a religion does not make you good. Just look at all the religious politicians now in jail or soon to be tried. Christians ALL!!!!

Our founding fathers had seen how governments misuse their power over and over and how religion combined with government created monster power. That is why they strove so hard to keep ideology OUT of our government and constititution. Why they wanted it to be by and for the people…..not someone’s religion and certainly not by and for the corporations.

McCain must have realized that what he said was prettyy anti-semitic, so he fell back on that Eisenhower-era dodge, ‘Judeo-Christian.’ So, John, now it’s the Judeo Christian Church you went to? Not the Baptists, because they don’t seem very friendly to the Judeo’s.

Most of the dominionists jump on the mention of a creator and ride it all the way to Jesus Christ and the redemption of sins. they figure they can get away with it, since their main enemy is atheistic secularism–and the Founders mentioned God! Game over, man!

But there’s a sect which believes in God, who believes that life, libertty and the pursuit of happiness are the direct gifts of God, and that all religions worship the same God. That sect is the Freemasons, and nearly all the founders belonged to it.

The Declaration embodies a vision that Christianity of the time did not, and that the Darylls of today still do not. that unbelievers and believers have the same basic rights, the right to live, the right to be free, and the right to strive after happiness. Fundamentalist Christians believe that rights only derive from adherence to Jesus Christ, and that all else is depravity.

I for one am proud to live in this Masonic country.

Comment by Picklee — September 30, 2007 @ 11:48 am

The Constitution wasn’t based on “Christian principles”. It was based on John Locke’s work. The attempts of McCain and others to say this sort of nonsense never ends. Talk about pimping yer own sorry *ss…

What about democracy McCain?

If anyone buys this garbage, then they need to have their brains looked at. Anyone with a proper high school education will tell you that those rich Judeo Christians were the ones that persecuted everyone else, and in fact the combination of democracy and the persecuted was what made this nation the greatest experiment ever.

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Thomas Jefferson
George Washington
Booker T. Washington
Rosa Parks
Susan B. Anthony

I am Catholic myself. You can peach all you want about Christianity shaping this great nation, but where’s your evidence and support?

I am not buying it.

Comment by Erroll:
“Unless McCain is intent upon establishing a theocracy in this country, to evoke Judeo-Christian principles as some sort of a litmus test to be president is simply ludicrous as well as being unconstitutional. Simply another reason why this man is extremely unqualified to be president of the U.S.”

Why should McCain be any different from the rest of the Republican field? By now all of them have demonstrated themselves to be unqualified through their own words & actions. All are either openly contemptuous or unconcernedly ignorant of this country’s founding principles and ideals. The fact that they’re taken seriously in this country as potential “Leaders of the Free World” is by far the most alarming aspect of their respective candidacies.

jb