U.S. coordinates with Gulf nations on possible air strikes.
By on Sep 30th, 2007 at 5:15 pm
U.S. coordinates with Gulf nations on possible air strikes.
“The American air force is working with military leaders from the Gulf to train and prepare Arab air forces for a possible war with Iran, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal.”
UPDATE: “John Bolton, the former US ambassador to the United Nations, told Tory delegates today that efforts by the UK and the EU to negotiate with Iran had failed and that he saw no alternative to a pre-emptive strike on suspected nuclear facilities in the country.”
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Bring ‘em on.
Can’t wait for Russia and China to start warming their nukes up.
Hopefully the will wipe the US off of the face of the map.
September 30th, 2007 at 5:23 pmJohn Bolton is a liar.
If he wasn’t a neo-con, nor even a “Reagan conservative”, then why did he sign the PNAC letter to Clinton (see here), and how did he get to be appointed Ambassador to the UN? Does he know what the terms he is using mean? This is the same man who once told an interviewer that the president has an obligation to fulfill the agenda of the people who voted for him, and had no obligation to the rest of ther country. Why does anyone think his advice has value, when it doesn’t even have validity?
September 30th, 2007 at 5:37 pmJohn (JINSA member) Bolton? Another pro-Zionist Israel-firster wanting war with Iran?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bolton
YOU DON’T SAY!!!
September 30th, 2007 at 5:42 pmOp-Ed: The Next War
By Wesley K. Clark
Washington Post | Sunday, September 16, 2007
http://securingamerica.com/node/2671
Snippets…
Think another war can’t happen? Think again. Unchastened by the Iraq fiasco, hawks in Vice President Cheney’s office have been pushing the use of force.
But if it’s clear how a war with Iran would start, it’s far less clear how it would end. How might Iran strike back? Would it unleash Hezbollah cells across Europe and the Middle East, or perhaps even inside the United States?
Iran is not the only country where the next war with the United States might erupt. Consider the emergence of a new superpower (or at least a close competitor with the United States). China’s shoot-down of an old Chinese satellite in January was a wake-up call about the risks inherent in America’s reliance on space. The next war could also come from somewhere unexpected; if you’d told most Americans in August 2001 that the United States would be invading Afghanistan within weeks, they’d have called you crazy.
But the big lesson is simply this: War is the last, last, last resort. It always brings tragedy and rarely brings glory. Take it from a general who won: The best war is the one that doesn’t have to be fought, and the best military is the one capable and versatile enough to deter the next war in the first place.
September 30th, 2007 at 5:45 pmThe US will not respect the law or listen to reason. It seems driven by it’s own paranoia created by it’s own propaganda.
The only two options available to Iran are, give in to terrorism or tell the terrorists to “Bring It On, Beeach”.
September 30th, 2007 at 5:48 pmThe American air force is working with military leaders from the Gulf
PROVE THIS
John Bolton, the former US ambassador to the United Nations, told Tory delegates today that efforts by the UK and the EU to negotiate with Iran had failed and that he saw no alternative to a pre-emptive strike
September 30th, 2007 at 6:07 pmPROVE THIS Bolton… we ALL know he IS LYING… we ALL know the thug he is Why does he and the others bother with the effort of lying? Regardless of what the public feels, the Bush crime family are going to do as they please anyway.
I now agree with the Pope… our military needs desperately to RESIST any order striking Iran.
Hopefully the will wipe the US off of the face of the map.
Comment by JPV — September 30, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
Not very cool.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:09 pmHas he also talked to James Dobson – again?
Dobson, Bolton, and the far-right at the United Nations
September 30th, 2007 at 6:10 pmAnd we can thank those spineless democrats whom we placed in office in the mid-terms for selling us out on this one. Soon we will be so embroiled in multiple wars, that this country will be down the tubes.
What the hell were we thinking to imagine that these democrats would care about what the people think? It goes without saying the Repukes are living on a different planet but the dems now, too?
What the hell was Hillary doing leading the charge in favor of the Lieberman/Kyl admendment?? There’s no way in hell this country can “afford” to have her at the helm that’s now certain.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:11 pmand with what military do we plan to involve ourselves in yet another war? I guess we’re as deluded about the strength of our military as Bush is about balancing a budget in 6 years. We’ve got one deluded commander in chief with his trigger on the destruction of this country right now. He’s mentally ill and the people know it. Why are there not enough knowledgeable congressmen to see this precipice upon which we are perched? How can the NOT see that Bush has gone mad??
September 30th, 2007 at 6:13 pmI do not see what proponents of the Iran war hope to achieve. If we have “limited, surgical strikes” against Iran, they are not going to just give up on nuclear research and decide they love Israel. This will not be a “limited” engagement, just like Iraq did not last for “weeks not months”. Does anyone here remember what the “trigger” was that initiated the invasion of Iraq in March 2003? It was not Al-Qaeda. It was not 9/11, that was in 2001. What precipitated the invasion of Iraq in 2003? Bush ordered the UN weapons inspectors out, so that coalition forces could go in and search for WMD. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Once the “limited, surgical strikes” are finished, how long is America willing to continue to put forces into Iraq? How many tours are our soldiers going to serve? How many American lives will be lost? For what?
September 30th, 2007 at 6:13 pmIt may be time for our own military to stand down any order to strike Iran. It’s time to take this power out of the hand of this juvenile delinquent. It’s time for the people to now show what they are made of…..do or die time, folks.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:14 pmNot very cool.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — September 30, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
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Of course it’s not but what would you wish would happen to nations that sponsor and commit terrorism?
And how would you describe terrorism?
September 30th, 2007 at 6:15 pmChrisL: you’re preaching to the choir here and we all concur. The only conclusion we can ascertain from these obvious threats of a madman is that he’s hell bent on destroying this country….and perhaps the world as we know it. The true “Anti-Christ” has been identified at last and he’s been our own “enemy within” all the time.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:16 pmJust as before, history will repeat itself – in the course of 4 days we’ve gone from the Lieberman(sack of shit)/Kyle amendment to now entertaining “surgical strikes”…..which is precisely the identical MO Bush had for Iraq. Of course, the surgical strikes escalated within a matter of days/weeks….and voila! A full fledged invasion.
Iran is another story all together though. They are ready for Bush and his notorious crimes. They will put is in our place in one fell swoop I fear. We’re playing with fire here and this time we will get burned. This is not child’s play but Bubble Boy doesn’t have a clue as to what he is setting into motion. I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes karmically speaking.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:19 pmAnd how would you describe terrorism?
Comment by Abby — September 30, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
My objection is to specifically calling for someone’s death, or in this case, a nuclear attack on the US. I certainly have no use for Bush or what he’s done. I just don’t think a comment like that helps anything.
“Hopefully, they will wipe the US off the face of the Earth”???
This doesn’t sound like sarcasm. A distinct possibility, yes, but why HOPE for it?
BTW, an attack big enough to destroy the US would pretty much destroy the rest of world too…
September 30th, 2007 at 6:20 pmWhat is occurring right now is a direct consequence of the horrendous derelection of duty by the democrats who bent over to be screwed once again by the Bush Cabal. I guess it’s something like the battered woman syndrome – they get beat up every time but still can’t seem to quit the man.
I believe that we need to have the official roll call on that disgusting vote and derelection of the mandate of the people during the midterms to stop this war and certainly NOT begin another one.
Once we have the names and contact information for each and every one of those spineless democrats, it’s time to bombard their phones, emails and offices with mail letting them know what they’ve done.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:22 pmNo enlightened comment here, just the observation that John Bolton is a mad dog.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:22 pmAbbey & TRos: No matter how you dice it, it ain’t going to be a pretty sight if it happens here. Maybe we should consider that when we engage in nuclear pissing contests with real contenders?
September 30th, 2007 at 6:24 pmstewarjt: Mad dog or Mad Pig.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:24 pmThe true “Anti-Christ†has been identified at last and he’s been our own “enemy within†all the time.
Comment by Veritas — September 30, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
And all the Repug Sheeple here continue to worship and prop him up, so that makes them disciples of ……….. “the Anti-Christ”.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:24 pmThere is good information about Iran in Wikipedia even though it’s disputed information. Start with Operation Ajax and go from there. It helps to read the dispute info on Wikipedia probably moreso than the actual articles.
I just can’t wrap my mind around fighting over resources in the modern world. I got a real problem with it. About morality and survival.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:30 pmHere’s the link to the roll call for the Kyl-Lieberman amendment:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00349#position
Knock yourself out calling all of the “Yea” voters. The Democrats are rooting for an attack too.
I highly recommend Tim Weiner’s “Legacy of Ashes” to all of you who think the U.S. is a good nation. We’ve been really evil for more than 50 years. Let freedom ring indeed.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:36 pmIsraeli ambassador to the UN Dan Gillerman praised Bolton at a New York Jewish assembly on Saturday the 18th of November,2006 for his staunch support of Israel.
According to a report by Arutz Sheva online: “U.S. ambassador John Bolton is Israel’s ’secret weapon’ in the international body”.
According to Arutz Sheva, Gillerman told the Jewish assembly:”the Israeli delegation to the United Nations is not five people as most believe,but six,including Bolton,who is the Israeli government’s secret weapon”.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:45 pmAbbey & TRos: No matter how you dice it, it ain’t going to be a pretty sight if it happens here. Maybe we should consider that when we engage in nuclear pissing contests with real contenders?
Comment by Veritas — September 30, 2007 @ 6:24 pm
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And it would be a pretty sight if it happens to them? And who exactly are the real nuclear contenders?
The idea is, if it is horrible to even contemplate such an act upon our country and our kids, it has to be equally horrible to contemplate such an act upon their country, their kids.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:55 pmYou did notice what countries were threaten to join the US in Iraq. Now many are there now? Don’t look for any large country to join now maybe a small country will send monkeys to help our Grand Wizard in his illegal effort to bomb Iran. Somebody on this blog said it right look for other countries to stand up and Nuke up as well as stand against the White House. You thought our Stock Market was bad now you haven’t seen any thing yet. When the Stock Market hits it’s low of 1,000 Dow call me or email me.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:55 pmImpeach Cheney now!
September 30th, 2007 at 7:25 pmI’m really confused. The neocons seem to have unquestioning loyalty to Israel and the Saudis and unquestioning hatred towards Iran and Iraq. I can understand that we put in the juntas in Iran and Iraq and that both eventually tried to throw us out.
But how do they reconcile training the arabic countries’ air forces for military strikes without increasing the risk that these countries may use their newfound skills against Israel ?
September 30th, 2007 at 7:37 pmI believe the New York MUTT fans here that were talking smack a couple of months back , owe me a big apology ……..
How does it feel to be so coldly reminded you are a 2nd rate franchise ; even in your own city ?
Way to collapse like no other team ever has in Major League history..
September 30th, 2007 at 7:43 pmHey I have no problem with the US striking Iran pre-emptively as long as every lawmaker who supports it pledges that at least two (2) members of his or her immediate (or extended) family is required to join the military and be sent overseas to fight for the USA. I mean if they can’t persuade their own family members to fight for our freedom and security then I don’t think they have a moral standing to send anyone else. This way at least 400 to 500 new Americans will be in the military. Also we should send every blogger and pundit that supports such a war to go over and fight too.
Anyone wanna bet they’ll become pacifists in a second?
September 30th, 2007 at 7:51 pmBut how do they reconcile training the arabic countries’ air forces for military strikes without increasing the risk that these countries may use their newfound skills against Israel ?
Comment by MapleStreet
Hmmm… not a bad idea after all.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:05 pmAnd if they drive us out of the middle east, essentially liberating Iraq and Iran, they’ll be just like the US when we drove out the Germans from Poland, France and Italy.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Except the Nazis weren’t as evil as the Americans.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:06 pmBTW, an attack big enough to destroy the US would pretty much destroy the rest of world too…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
So what? Humans are deranged and evil animals that shouldn’t be allowed to exist anymore.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:10 pmNot very cool.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
And the US continuing to endanger the security of the rest of the planet is?
September 30th, 2007 at 8:11 pmHrrr, is the oil gonna pay for the rebuilding of the Iranian infrastructure as well?
So far the Iraqi oil hasn’t paid for much of anything.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:21 pmIt’s easy to imagine a “Guns of August†scenario …
Mike Gravel and I are thinking along the same lines here. JFK read Barbara Tuchman’s book (about World War I) in the months before the Cuban Missile crisis. It’s theme was about mistakes spiraling into World conflagration.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:23 pmLike today, right wing religious hawks were urging him to nuke godless Cuba. His level headed leadership probably saved the Earth from World War III.
I wish I could tie Bush up, and make him listen to Tuchman’s cautionary tale on” Books on Tape”.
Like today, right wing religious hawks were urging him to nuke godless Cuba. -Badger
Well, I think the religious angle is a canard to get people behind the idea of empire building.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:28 pmNot very cool.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
He’s probably one of the “Rapture Right”. They are all foaming at the mouth that Armageddon is around the corner and they will be transported to their version of heaven. Problem is, they were lied to. Every one of them will end up in hell, which is where they belong.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:29 pmHe’s probably one of the “Rapture Rightâ€. They are all foaming at the mouth that Armageddon is around the corner and they will be transported to their version of heaven. Problem is, they were lied to. Every one of them will end up in hell, which is where they belong.
Comment by bilbobaggins
Not in the least. Just an American fed up with all this BS.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:31 pmWell, I think the religious angle is a canard to get people behind the idea of empire building.
Comment by Xisithrus
DUH! You think?
As is the terrorist canard.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:32 pmIt’s time to take this power out of the hand of this juvenile delinquent. It’s time for the people to now show what they are made of…..do or die time, folks.
Comment by Veritas
Frankly, I’m about ready for a military coup in this country. That appears to be the only way we can wrest control of this country from the hands of the insane people who are now running the show.
I read recently that many Generals have told Bush that they will disobey orders if they are ordered to Nuke Iran. That is probably why Bush is pushing Israel to Nuke Iran instead. I hope that those Generals also plan to disobey orders to bomb Iran. They have to know what chaos that will cause and how it will put our soldiers in Iraq in terrible jeopardy.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:33 pmSo what? Humans are deranged and evil animals that shouldn’t be allowed to exist anymore.
Comment by JPV — September 30, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
You need psychiatric help before you hurt yourself or someone else.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:33 pmNot in the least. Just an American fed up with all this BS.
Comment by JPV
You’re fed up? And you want someone to Nuke this nation and kill millions of our citizens. You are one sick puppy.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:34 pmJust an American fed up with all this BS.
Comment by JPV
Calling for the murder of all humans? I say you have lost one too many fruits from your loops, bud
September 30th, 2007 at 8:38 pmThe Religious Angle: It was most prominent in the anti-communist fervor that gripped America after World War II. So much so , that we supported fundamentalist muslim mujahadeen,aka freedom fighters, in their effort to oust the Godless Soviets from Afghanistan.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:40 pmNow these God fearing Islamists are blowing us up in the Middle East.
You’re fed up? And you want someone to Nuke this nation and kill millions of our citizens. You are one sick puppy.
Comment by bilbobaggins — September 30, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
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Don’t be an idiot or does the very thought of a terrorist strike on us make you irrational?
The point is: What’s the difference between their terrorist strike on us or our terrorist strike on them? Why is their terrorist attack on us more horrible than our terrorist attack on them?
They are not planning anything. It is we who is planning to kill their innocent men, women and children, remember? Just like we did to Iraq and the Iraqis. We are the terrorists.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:44 pmComment by Abby — September 30, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
You are defending jpv, why?
Do you agree with his statement at 45?
Do you defend this insanity?
September 30th, 2007 at 8:48 pmThe point is: What’s the difference between their terrorist strike on us or our terrorist strike on them? Why is their terrorist attack on us more horrible than our terrorist attack on them?
There is no difference. I don’t advocate nuking anyone anywhere at any time. I just find it rather sick that someone who lives in the United States would advocate someone nuking us.
And I agree with you. We have become the leading terrorists in the world thanks to Bush & Company.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:53 pmAnd I agree with you. We have become the leading terrorists in the world thanks to Bush & Company.
Comment by bilbobaggins — September 30, 2007 @ 8:53 pm
Yep, Bush is the new Hitler. Pelosi, who refuses impeachment is complicit in his crimes as well.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:55 pmYou are defending jpv, why?
Do you agree with his statement at 45?
So what? Humans are deranged and evil animals that shouldn’t be allowed to exist anymore.
Comment by JPV
Do you defend this insanity?
Comment by Wayne — September 30, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
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LOL. No, of course not. I must have missed that one.
I was referring to his earlier statement regarding an attack on the US of the type we are planning to launch on the Iranians. What is good for the goose should be good for the gander, no?
As for the other question, human beings need reeducation, not extermination.:)
September 30th, 2007 at 9:06 pmYep, Bush is the new Hitler. Pelosi, who refuses impeachment is complicit in his crimes as well.
Comment by Wayne — September 30, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
September 30th, 2007 at 9:10 pm——————–
Too many liberals and progressives either don’t see or mentally block out the very active part the Democratic Party has played in enabling the Bush agenda. Without this complicity on the part of the “opposition” Party, we would not be where we are today.
Hair Commander sir?
September 30th, 2007 at 9:12 pmIt’s about the hot dogs, sir, I was asked if they’re Kosher.
And the kool-aid, it’s melting thru the styrofoam cups.
Shall I water it down a bit?
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — September 30, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
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Would you support air strikes against Iran? If not, why not? If so, what do you believe they would accomplish?
September 30th, 2007 at 9:22 pmComment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — September 30, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
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You still haven’t answered my question from #73 – Am I on your ignore list?
September 30th, 2007 at 9:31 pmIs this really gonna happen? I honestly cannot believe what I’m reading today regarding us attacking Iran.
September 30th, 2007 at 9:33 pmPre-emptive war was the doctrine of Nazi Germany and Japan, and our dads fought that doctrine in WW2.
The US doesn’t start wars, we end them.
Or at least we used to.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 30, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
this morning on CBS SUNDAY MORNING, a segment about
“the singing cowboy”, gene autry…
further proof that dubya is no cowboy:
September 30th, 2007 at 9:49 pmfrom the “Cowboy Code” – A COWBOY NEVER SHOOTS FIRST…
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Yes I do support airstrikes on Iran, just not at this time.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — September 30, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
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When would be a good time? What would this accomplish? I do not believe this would halt their nuclear research, on the other hand it would encourage more. I do not believe this would engender them towards Israel either, Ahmanidiot would still call for their destruction. It would not cause them to stop aiding the Shia in Iraq, either. The Badr Militia would take their focus off destroying Muqtada Sadr and the Mehdi Army, and more towards attacking American troops. In other words, air strikes would do the exact opposite of what America wants, and they would be the beginning, not the end.
September 30th, 2007 at 9:51 pmChris L, where did you get the idea that Ahmadinejad said that he wanted the destruction of Israel?
Why are all these false ideas throw around like facts?
September 30th, 2007 at 10:16 pmGene Autry’s Saturday matinee saddle pals wanted to be just like their hero. Gene responded with the Cowboy Code, sometimes known as the Cowboy Commandments. They are as relevant today as they were then.
1. The Cowboy must never shoot first, hit a smaller man, or take unfair advantage.
2. He must never go back on his word, or a trust confided in him.
3. He must always tell the truth.
4. He must be gentle with children, the elderly, and animals.
5. He must not advocate or possess racially or religiously intolerant ideas.
6. He must help people in distress.
7. He must be a good worker.
8. He must keep himself clean in thought, speech, action, and personal habits.
9. He must respect women, parents, and his nation’s laws.
10. The Cowboy is a patriot.
http://www.autry.com/home.php
…
it’s really difficult to be a Cowboy…
September 30th, 2007 at 10:23 pmthere can’t be too many of them…
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Chris L, where did you get the idea that Ahmadinejad said that he wanted the destruction of Israel?
Why are all these false ideas throw around like facts?
Comment by Juan C. — September 30, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
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I have spent three years living in the Middle East. I know Arab/Persian mentality from experience. Yes, they are very anti-Israel, and for good reasons. But that is a conversation for another time. To be honest, once you understand their perspective, you have a rather different point of view towards Israel. I would favor sanctions against Israel before sanctions against Iran.
September 30th, 2007 at 10:30 pmIraq IS Bush’s Poland.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 30, 2007 @ 9:25 pm
It’s also lookin’ like his Russia…
September 30th, 2007 at 10:32 pmI have stated this many, many times.
September 30th, 2007 at 10:35 pmAnyone who believes we can just bomb Iran and not have to fight a ground war on yet another front is just plain stupid. Or insane.
Chris L, my post was regarding the “oh, Iran Pres just said that Israel should be wiped from the Earth” comment, which is a mistranslation from Farsi to Arabic made by Al-Jazeera.
Sure, the guy is an idiot and is as conservative as any US national extremist, but he didnt advocate for the destruction of Israel: he advocated for the destruction of Israel’s regime…completely different. The only ones exterminating another country are Israel in the West Bank and Gaza and US in Iraq.
Just that. I agree with the rest.
September 30th, 2007 at 10:38 pmWhy the hell do we have to listen to ANYTHING from the discredited former UN Ambassador John Bolton — who could not get confirmed by the US Senate and served only because of Bush’s recess appointment?
Who gives him the right to determine or report on US foreign policy?
September 30th, 2007 at 10:39 pmAnyone who believes we can just bomb Iran and not have to fight a ground war on yet another front is just plain stupid. Or insane.
Comment by Wayne
Then Im stupid, Wayne.
Why cant it be like Gulf War I?…you know, a lot of bombing, some troops moving, but no invasion, whatsoever.
Or another scenario, just the bombing, like in Serbia.
Im ignorant in these issues, so Im requesting your opinion.
September 30th, 2007 at 10:40 pmWhy cant it be like Gulf War I?…you know, a lot of bombing, some troops moving, but no invasion, whatsoever.
Comment by Juan C. — September 30, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
Because as soon as we bomb they will be hitting our bogged down troops stationed next door in Iraq with no restraint.
September 30th, 2007 at 10:45 pmWait until the early morning coal trains have crossed the frontier and then release the armored spearheads.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — September 30, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
Good Lord, yer a self-important fool.
September 30th, 2007 at 10:47 pmRegarding John Bolton, I love the way these WWII vet kicks his ass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO87jib5o8w
September 30th, 2007 at 10:49 pmNow let me get this straight. We don’t want a country like Iran to have the bomb, because they are suicidal lunatics?
Hmmm… ever hear of the”Samson Option”?
September 30th, 2007 at 10:49 pm
Somebody throw the troll a bone so he can play.
September 30th, 2007 at 10:53 pmIll try to dredge up a more common historical footnote next time, promise.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — September 30, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
I understood the reference. I find you disgusting. You think you’re some sort of card while talking about people dying. You’re pathetic.
September 30th, 2007 at 11:09 pmbut you would probably just whine about the excessive hedonism on display and be in a perpetual bad mood.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — September 30, 2007 @ 11:18 pm
Umm… no, I did understand. I’m probably better read than you. As far as your shallow attempt at smug humor, it falls about as flat as most of your other comments here tonight. You are an horrifically empty fraud.
You seem to think you’re bieng catchy when you talk about so many people dying. You’re absolutely DISGUSTING.
September 30th, 2007 at 11:27 pmMichael sez:
Which nukes would those be, Michael?
September 30th, 2007 at 11:43 pmyou wont have to worry about any scantily-clad women celebrating the miracle of capitalism around you.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — September 30, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
Yer a phony.
September 30th, 2007 at 11:50 pmBARTLEBEE sez:
Don’t be too hard on him, bart…this is what happens when you’re stupid enough to swallow the administration’s pablum unquestioningly.
September 30th, 2007 at 11:50 pmTHEN we’d have that war the right wing keeps claiming we’re in.
It could be really bad.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 30, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
Yo! Stalingrad anyone? 6th Army? Could happen…
September 30th, 2007 at 11:54 pmDont bother with a retort, Im sure youre still mad at me.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — September 30, 2007 @ 11:50 pm
Don’t bother w/ a retort. You’re such a mindless, sick fraud, you couldn’t possibly have anything of value to say.
September 30th, 2007 at 11:56 pmThis peice of shit is a remnant of what our dads fought half a century ago in a REAL war.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 30, 2007 @ 11:55 pm
Right. Just… DISGUSTING attitude.
September 30th, 2007 at 11:57 pmBut hey, what can you expect from a historical neophyte who believes in the Chamberlain doctrine of appeasement?
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 1, 2007 @ 12:04 am
Indeed, and what can we expect from a committed idiot who believes in the Hitlerian doctrine of the Big Lie?
October 1st, 2007 at 12:06 amFigures its from Vegas. Home of the rip off , corruption and greed.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — October 1, 2007 @ 12:05 am
It just goes to Vegas to be relieved of its money by the locals.
October 1st, 2007 at 12:07 amDont bother eating beforehand because your innards may suffer a beating.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 1, 2007 @ 12:06 am
Perhaps you’d care to meet our local Iraq War vet, Wayne, and talk to him like that?
God, yer a rancid wanker.
October 1st, 2007 at 12:08 amBut like I said. What can you expect from a snibbling, murdering scumbag who embraces the HITLER DOCTRINE of pre-emptive war?
Comment by BARTLEBEE — October 1, 2007 @ 12:08 am
I’d suggest this disgusting fraud go read what Wayne had to say about above, but odds are this one is way too self-absorbed and fascinated w/ his own smugness to get it. Pathetic excuse for a human.
“But… but… the chicks in Vegas think I’m cool! At least they said they did… until I was broke…”
October 1st, 2007 at 12:12 amThe Anti-Christ has till Jan 09 to do his worst, looks like he is right on schedule.
Buck Fush
October 1st, 2007 at 12:12 amFabulous is the best descriptor, highly recommended.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 1, 2007 @ 12:12 am
Indeed, spoken by someone who NEVER understands how people are laughing at him. Pahetic. Keep it up, Chuckles… yer really quite the Komedy Krackup!
October 1st, 2007 at 12:14 amLas Vegas!!! It’s For Fools!
October 1st, 2007 at 12:14 amAnd being a soldier doesn’t mean turning a blind eye to oppression.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — October 1, 2007 @ 12:13 am
Incapable of getting it, Bartles. Are these freaks really paid posters?
This guy has all the credibility of a cardboard cutout… can’t… CAN’T… be a real person. NO ONE could be this big of a jackass in real life. So what’s the point? The GOOPers admit they’re getting their butts kicked on the nets. Are they really out to scramble things up anyway they can?
‘Cause this CAN’T be a real person. NO ONE could POSSIBLY be this obnoxious in real life. It’s GOTTA be an act.
October 1st, 2007 at 12:18 am:|
Those weren’t chicks.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — October 1, 2007 @ 12:18 am
Ewwwww… (Psst… don’t tell him… it might be, ahem, embarrassing…)
October 1st, 2007 at 12:19 amDefinitely not a CP’er and you wouldnt be caught dead in the Trop or at any place in Old Town.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 1, 2007 @ 12:21 am
I’ve always found Vegas and the fools who go there to be relieved of their money to be ridiculous… Gosh, yer quite the Schwinger…
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA… yer killin’ us… no, really, ya are.
October 1st, 2007 at 12:23 amare really just whoever’s manning the console at Messiah U at any given moment.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — October 1, 2007 @ 12:22 am
I’m pretty sure I’ve caught trolls working off of scripts here. There was a very peculiar comment a troll made months ago, about the Dems playing us for suckers.
“The Dems are playing w/ you the way we play w/ our religious nuts.”
I’m pretty sure that was the EXACT wording.
About 2 months later, Jake D said the exact same thing. EXACT.
What are the odds of 2 different trolls making the exact same statement, months apart, on such a specific subject matter?
Kinda creepy/smarmy, huh?
October 1st, 2007 at 12:27 amGuess the soldiers are crying for his loss, while he’s in here cheering on theirs.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — October 1, 2007 @ 12:25 am
Kind of disgusting, actually. The attitude, that is.
October 1st, 2007 at 12:28 amMore than likely that involves finger sandwiches and subdued background music.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 1, 2007 @ 12:28 am
Prattling on and on to itself. Sad… and delusional, too.
October 1st, 2007 at 12:32 amI notice it’s quit trying to engage us directly at all.
This CAIN’T be a real person. Very bizarre… very, very creepy.
Did I mention obnoxious???
October 1st, 2007 at 12:34 amSee? No attempt to engage around the subject matter. Just going on and on as though he were actually talking to someone about gambling.
Truly bizarre phenomenon.
October 1st, 2007 at 12:36 amRovian Stormtrooper Commander sez:
I was just going to continue to refuse to engage the parody troll, but this passage explores whole new vistas of stupid.
Are you actually bragging about your wife’s inability to play blackjack?
October 1st, 2007 at 12:40 amDont tell me, Bart drags himself from bed every morning and proceeds to spend every waking moment in deep thought about our troops in Iraq, barely bothering to eat or drink.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 1, 2007 @ 12:37 am
Clearly, you think the whole thing is a joke. How much do you get paid to make a pain in the ass of yerself here? Or are you such a die hard ideologue ya do it fer free? Givin’ it away? Tsk…
Jes’ like the girls in Vegas who luv ya… no, really, they do…
October 1st, 2007 at 12:41 amBart in which Im indirectly referenced as “it†precluded any meaningful attempt at discussion.
As Madonna would say, “my badâ€.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 1, 2007 @ 12:40 am
Considering the kind of comments you’ve been making, it does preclude any attempt at meaningful discussion. No real human could be this obnoxious and not know it. How much ya gettin’ paid?
October 1st, 2007 at 12:42 amNot only him but the Commander in Chief as well.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 1, 2007 @ 12:42 am
Do ya get medical benes? No? Geez, guess who’s gittin’ screwed, and not in Vegas!!! ;-D!!
October 1st, 2007 at 12:44 amRovian Stormtrooper Commander sez:
Well, at least I know how to use apostrophes.
G’Night.
October 1st, 2007 at 12:55 amAw, geez, Bart… he was jes’ about ta spill tha beans ‘n tell me how much trolls git paid fer bein’ obnoxious pricks… ‘n ya scaired him offin…
October 1st, 2007 at 1:00 amIt is MY war after all, so please keep your nose out of it.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 1, 2007 @ 12:59 am
Aw COM’ON.. ya cain tell us.. how much????
October 1st, 2007 at 1:01 amIts too late for me….save yourself.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 1, 2007 @ 1:11 am
Wow… yer really cool… no, really, you are.
What do you think is going on here, Bart? Clearly, whoever this is, they have no real political opinion to express. They’re out to be deliberately obnoxious as possible. Kind of a shameless performance.
Just… amazing… so, my guess is he accepts payment in the form of food stamps and all the T-bird he can drink in one setting… jes’ like the GOOPers… they even lowball their trolling.
At least this one isn’t in India…
October 1st, 2007 at 1:17 amlimited to those who dont share your political views?
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 1, 2007 @ 1:14 am
Naw… just directed at obnoxious cretins like you. Bart and I had quite a serious talk about politics last night here. I’ve had long discussions w/ people who actually have REAL political opinions here, and we did disagree.
You? Awww… hang it up, moron. Yer not foolin’ anyone.
October 1st, 2007 at 1:20 amIf Bush attacks Iran without Congressional approval he should be impeached. He won’t seek it because he knows this House won’t give it as there is no justification for invading Iran like Iraq.
Comment by Probus
FFS, pay attention please.
By declaring the Iranian army a terrorist group, via the Lieberman/Kyle bill, Bush doesn’t need Congressional approval anymore.
The Democrats already gave him approval.
Idiot.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:27 am>What are the odds of 2 different trolls making the
> exact same statement, months apart,
>on such a specific subject matter?
Originality or creative thinking is not these guys strong point, in any event. One of them may have thought the other said something profound and cut and pasted it into a wordfile of allegedly memorable quotes.
> No place on earth like Sin City.
If your into cliches, sure. Did your imaginary wife like the fact you spent her imaginary money?
Is this some new trolling method? Boring us to death with semi-coherent PG-13 “fear and loathing in las vegas” slash fiction?
Accusations that democrats don’t know how to have fun? Last I checked, Larry Flynt was on our side, Falwell is on yours. Next thing you know you’re going to accuse us of hating gays and minorities.
Seriously, I’m just wondering what your goal in regaling us with these inane loss vegas stories is. Are you trying to irritate us by boring us to death? Or do you just need attention? You do know you’ll never be able to get the time you spent writing this stuff back, right?
In any case, enjoy posting your drivel, at some point you’ll get banned, and at some point TP will wise up and start banning IP’s, then i guess you’ll have to find somewhere else to seek attention.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:38 am>Without it he will commit an impeachable offense.
Not trying to be an @ss, but hes been there, done that. Dude.. congress doesnt even have the b@lls to say no to AIPAC lobbying. And where oh where did these contempt citations for harriet myers ever go? I bet these same “blue dog” scumbag democrats in the house who voted for continued illegal surveillance won’t dare vote for a contempt citation against thier dear leader and eternal commander in cheif
October 1st, 2007 at 7:43 amPNAC Bolton wanted Iran to kick out Arms Inspectors, he tells AIPAC (audio track as well as text)
October 1st, 2007 at 9:52 am“… they have not done anything more dramatic, such as withdrawing from the nonproliferation treaty, or throwing out inspectors of the International Atomic Energy Agency, which I actually hoped they would do – that that kind of reaction would produce a counter-reaction that actually would be more beneficial to us.”
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_jim_harr_070302_bolton_wanted_iran_t.htm