Blackwater Fired First In 84 Percent Of ‘Escalation Of Force’ Incidents Since 2005
Blackwater Fired First In 84 Percent Of ‘Escalation Of Force’ Incidents Since 2005
On Sept. 16, private security contractors working for Blackwater USA opened fire in a crowded traffic circle in Central Baghdad, killing 11 Iraqis. Since the incident, Blackwater and the State Department have insisted that the guards were responding to a “hostile attack.”
But a comprehensive report by Iraq’s Ministry of Interior, released last week, concluded that the Blackwater employees “fired an unprovoked barrage in the shooting” and that the “company is considered 100 percent guilty” for the incident.
Newsweek’s Kevin Peraino, who has had access to “an extensive evidence file put together by the Iraqi National Police,” told CNN today that the evidence is “largely consistent with what the Iraqi officials…have been saying all along”:
They said that Blackwater, the firing was unprovoked. They don’t know why it happened. All the witness statements that I saw, that they had collected there, said that there was no apparent reason for the firing to begin.
Watch it:
Though the State Department has yet to issue it’s own incident report, Blackwater has a history of firing first that would appear to support Peraino and the Iraqi government’s claims.
In a memo released today, House Oversight And Government Reform Chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA) reveals that of the 195 “escalation of force” incidents Blackwater has been involved in since 2005, Blackwater forces fired first in over 160 of them:
According to the Blackwater incident reports received by the Committee, Blackwater personnel have participated in 195 incidents in Iraq from January 1,2005, through September 12, 2007 , that involved firearms discharges by Blackwater personnel. This is an average of 1.4 incidents per week. In 32 of those incidents, Blackwater personnel were returning fire after an attack, while on 163 occasions (84% of the shooting incidents), Blackwater personnel were the first to fire.
Despite the controversy around Blackwater, the Pentagon recently awarded the firm a new contract worth $92 million. Tomorrow, Blackwater CEO Erik Prince will testify before Waxman’s committee tomorrow.
Read more highlights from Waxman’s memo here and here.
UPDATE: The Oversight Committee’s staff also found evidence that the State Department “helped create an environment where Blackwater guards could use deadly force with minimum reprisal.”
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84% preemptive strikes is pretty telling, I’d say. Don’t we realize that we are still responsible for the activities of those whom we employ? I suspect a huge lawsuit just over the horizon.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:58 pmIf these allegations are proven to be true, will Blackwater then be finally held accountable for their actions?
October 1st, 2007 at 5:58 pmJust another one of PsychoChimp’s failures!
October 1st, 2007 at 5:59 pmErrol: Since when is the individual “employing and paying” another to do it’s dirty work (aka hiring hitmen) not equally responsible under the law? Yes, and this should reflexively involved Chimpy and Deadeye.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:00 pmNewshound did a piece were Fox News attacked the families that are suing them… what scumbags.
Fox is covering for Blackwater…. go figure.
http://www.newshounds.us/ 2007/ 10/ 01/ fox_news_cuts_mic_on_mother_and_brother_of_murdered_blackwater_security_guard.php
October 1st, 2007 at 6:00 pmThe avalanche of $hit which will be hitting the fan each and every day is going to make our skin crawl and the longer Bush remains in office, the greater the damage will be.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:01 pmJust imagine: If he’d been impeached when Pelosi took impeachment “off the table”, we wouldn’t be in a pissing contest right now with Iran. It gets worse folks when serious karmic actions are involved. Two wrongs never made a right and the longer we permit this capricious chimp to run our show, the deeper and deeper into the abyss we go.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:02 pmhehe Mr. Pee. You don’t fool us; besides, nice act of “plagiarizing” and parodying my creation of “PsychoChimp”. Get a brain of your own please.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:03 pm#7 Your disgraceful rant has no place in this forum. Be gone Satan or you’ll be frozen out.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:04 pmLooks like bad news for the republican party.
http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ap/ 20071001/ ap_on_el_pr/ conservatives_third_party
October 1st, 2007 at 6:05 pmCobert said that Blackwater should change their name to something the Iraqis can appreciate… Drinkingwater.
What a band of thugs, run by a Reich-wing “Christian” no less.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:05 pm#5 Thanks for the link. Good one!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:06 pmdavemartin7777: That would be “run by a Reich-wing AntiChrist” to put it more succinctly.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:07 pmThough the State Department has yet to issue it’s own incident report, Blackwater has a history of firing first that would appear to support Peraino and the Iraqi government’s claims.
If the State Department has not issued it’s report, then what was all that claptrap in the Washington Post the other day about how Blackwater was completely innocent and that they were just defending themselves?
The last I heard Blackwater was involved in 56 incidents. Now we hear it was 195. Something is very wrong with this picture and we need to do something about it, NOW!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:07 pmYour disgraceful rant has no place in this forum. Be gone Satan or you’ll be frozen out.
Comment by Veritas
He is not Mr. P. He has been posting here since some weeks back.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:07 pmThanks Krazny. The “third party” is on the cusp right now.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:08 pmJust who does Blackwater represent? And who holds them accountable? This has to end.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:10 pm“Psycho President” is not Mr.P, he’s a good friend of ours…..
October 1st, 2007 at 6:10 pmMr. P was on this morning as “White People Did It To” or some such…
Everything this government does is a case of “cooking the books”. We haven’t gotten a truthful assessment from any department in this administration. It’s all been total smoke & mirrors, unblanced budgets, and fudged facts. And then ask yourself about the “official 911 report” and you KNOW what’s up with that. Why should that report be any different than any of the other canards of this prez?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:11 pmNevar: Thanks for the clarification; however, that kind of garbage does not elevate the respect of Think Progress one iota. Maybe it’s sarcasm but many people do take things at face value. Finding pleasure in taking lives would not be considered by anyone’s set of moraes to be anything but disgusting and degrading to the forum in which it appears.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:13 pmNevar: Maybe Psycho President needs to locate a different venue for his bizarre sense of humor then?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:14 pmIt’s a joke, Veritas. I don’t find the persona particularly amusing, myself, but I just skip the comments.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:15 pmVeritas, no shit those people are positively evil.
Security operatives filming themselves shooting at civilians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z0NMKcVHHM
October 1st, 2007 at 6:16 pmBlackwater and like security companies are a threat. Becoming reliant upon them will grow out of control. You will see them eventually used on our streets for domestic security after a catastrophy. Answerable to no one.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:16 pmThanks gummitch. I only flit through occasionally throughout the day and it reminded me too much of that disgusting troll. Besides, if children are reading these comments, how would they know it’s a joke? I don’t happen to find jokes involving murder and bigotry at all funny and I think this type of sarcasm can easily be misinterpreted and turn viable posters off.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:18 pmleftcoast: Under martial law, that’s precisely what woud happen. No doubt Blackwater would be a consideration for the post.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:18 pmdavemartin: Thanks for the link.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:19 pmI was not defending “Psycho President”…
October 1st, 2007 at 6:19 pm…just passing along info regarding identity….
I suppose they thought that since it’s a preemptive war, they can shoot preemptively.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:21 pmShall I play taps for ya, dude?
Waa wa waaa, wa wa waaaaa, wa wa wah, wa wa wah, wa wa wah…
October 1st, 2007 at 6:21 pmveritas: how are you? Been awhile. I wrote an oped for our paper about Blackwater’s ongoing attempt to opening a training base here. This is a frightening group with very right-wing religious fervor at their core beliefs.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:23 pmDaryll, you shouldn’t drink black water….
October 1st, 2007 at 6:24 pmDaryll drinks the kool-aid of fear as a basis for his vote. I will vote for freedom not fear.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:27 pmDaryll, you shouldn’t drink black water….
Comment by Nevar — October 1, 2007 @ 6:24 pm
Oy, Doobie Brothers!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:29 pmIf you want to have a normal life that is full of freedom and liberty, leave the Blackwater organization alone. Worry about Pelosi making inconsistent votes geared against everyone who supports your party.
Comment by Daryll — October 1, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
“leave the Blackwater organization alone”? What does this even mean, Darryl? Was Jesus a big fan of mercenaries?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:30 pmPresident Eisenhower said it best:
October 1st, 2007 at 6:32 pm“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.”
Blackwater USA’s CEO, Erik Prince, is an extremist evangelical, with connections to all the heavy evangelical militant christianists.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:33 pmMaybe this is why Daryll is going to bat for him.
If you want to have a normal life that is full of freedom and liberty, leave the Blackwater organization alone. Worry about Pelosi making inconsistent votes geared against everyone who supports your party.
Comment by Daryll
Blackwater would just as soon put a bullet in your head as to look at you. Loyalty at the point of a gun. Now that sounds like freedom to me! I really wish we had our country back. I hear Finland is nice this time of year.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:35 pmDaryll says I should worry more about Nancy Pelosi, then a heavily armed mercenary army, that is answerable to no one? Dude get help.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:35 pmBlackwater USA’s CEO, Erik Prince, is an extremist evangelical, with connections to all the heavy evangelical militant christianists.
Maybe this is why Daryll is going to bat for him.
Comment by Nevar — October 1, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
Ah. Got it. Probably sent out word through the wingnut churches to start peddling this line of bull.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:36 pm“If you want to have a normal life…”
is that some kind of a threat?
this one is such a pervert and a shill and an idiot…
i am completely sick and tired of those so-called holy ways…
i wish it would just stay the hell away from this forum and talk the hypocrisy and self-righteousness somewhere else…
i HATE these kinds…
October 1st, 2007 at 6:37 pm…
If you want to have a normal life that is full of freedom and liberty, leave the Blackwater organization alone.
Well, well, Daryll wants us to leave the hired mercenaries alone. Boy that’s a surprise! I thought Dear Daryll darling loved the constitution.
Hmm. Why does Daryll love dictatorship?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:38 pmkaty: religion is being perverted for political gain by those who are not really “holy”.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:40 pmRUCerious: well said. Why does he hate freedom?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:40 pmIf you want to have a normal life that is full of freedom and liberty, leave the Blackwater organization alone.
Comment by Daryll — October 1, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
Clarify what you mean by this.
Blackwater is a mercenary group. Hired guns. Killers
Nothing about them represents America, or should represent America.
Clarify what you mean.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:41 pmIf you want to have a normal life that is full of freedom and liberty, leave the Blackwater organization alone. Worry about Pelosi making inconsistent votes geared against everyone who supports your party.
Comment by Daryll
So Daryll - what are you going to have to say when Bush declares Martial Law and puts Blackwater out on to the streets of our nation like he did in New Orleans?
What would Jesus tell you is right? Would he say it is right for mercenaries to kill innocent civilians? Or would he tell you “thall shalt not kill?” I’m quite sure the Jesus you say you love would be horrified to find out what is in your black little heart. And you can give up on meeting him in heaven, because that’s definitely NOT where you are going.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:42 pmWell, well, Daryll wants us to leave the hired mercenaries alone. Boy that’s a surprise! I thought Dear Daryll darling loved the constitution.
Hmm. Why does Daryll love dictatorship?
Comment by RUCerious
The 28%r’s are already accepting the dictatorship. they are begging for it. No more thought, no more choices, no more silly decisions to make. just do what the king says and you will be alright. Every patriot who fought and died for this country must be spinning in their graves. Just spinning.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:42 pmbut your party continues to degrade them.
And now the FBI is investigating them. Why does the FBI hate freedom?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:44 pmYou libs kill me. These men of excellent stature are trying to bring security to Iraq, but your party continues to degrade them. Are you defeatists. This will probably be one of the security contactors that will play a part in our success in Iran. Respect them.
Comment by Daryll — October 1, 2007 @ 6:43 pm
You bible-humpers kill me.
I don’t suppose you have any proof to back your claims of their excellent stature,or any other statement you have made?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:45 pmOf course you don’t……..
You libs kill me. These men of excellent stature are trying to bring security to Iraq, but your party continues to degrade them. Are you defeatists. This will probably be one of the security contactors that will play a part in our success in Iran. Respect them.
Comment by Daryll — October 1, 2007 @ 6:43 pm
You’re certifiable, Daryll.
These “men of excellent stature” (what, they’re all 6′2″?) are responsible for chaos, not security. If they’d followed instructions in Fallujah, the US Military might actually have made greater strides in increasing stability, but their behavior actually precipitated greater conflict.
If you ever bothered to read something behind church bulletins, you might learn something.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:47 pmDaryll: I’m sure there are many good men and women in Blackwater. That’s not the point and in your heart you know it. These are not liberal posts, but to the contrary these posts reflect the strict (re: conservative) interpertations of our Constitution.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:49 pmMen of excellent stature.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:52 pmOur military is stretched thin. Blackwater is easing the load on our military.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:53 pmDaryll: then we must boost the military ranks, not call for mercenarires. How about a draft? It worked in my time when I was in. And then we have the entire nation involved, unlike those who sit on the sidelines as pundits.
These are not liberal posts, but to the contrary these posts reflect the strict (re: conservative) interpertations of our Constitution.
Comment by leftcoast — October 1, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
Daryll only cares about his Bush worship. He has proven over and over again, in his posts, that he believes the Constitution is a “goddammed piece of paper”, like every other good neocon.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:54 pmI was browsing around looking for Blackwater material and came across this interview with author Jeremy Scahill. This is something I was not aware of:
Is it normal for contractors working for the government to be paid death benefits out of taxpayer dollars? This company is making tons of dough and isn’t providing its employees with a benefit package?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:54 pmRucerious and Wayne, this has nothing to do with dictatorship. Stop diverting from the true subject. Our military is stretched thin. Blackwater is easing the load on our military.
Comment by Daryll — October 1, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
Try reading the facts. Our military doesn’t want anything to do with Blackwater, and the mercenaries blundering in Falluja resulted in the deaths of 26 US soldiers and 600 civilians.
I’m glad you recognize how desperately thin the military has been stretched, Darryl. Now you know why an attack on Iran is absurd.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:54 pmYou libs kill me. These men of excellent stature are trying to bring security to Iraq, but your party continues to degrade them. Are you defeatists. This will probably be one of the security contactors that will play a part in our success in Iran. Respect them.
Comment by Daryll
Well, Daryll has finally exposed himself for what he truly is, another Right Wing Loon. Sorry Daryll, I can never respect people who shoot other people without provocation. I can’t respect an outfit that has been involved in 195 violent incidents where they shot first 160 times.
As I said before, you definitely WILL NOT be going to heaven. You will meet your ilk in Hell and you can all piss and moan and complain about how those damn liberals took back this country and gave it back to the people.
And I think the other poster was correct. I’m sure that the evangelicals are burning up the phone lines and e-mail getting their troops out there to stand up for the murderers who are called Blackwater.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:54 pmDaryll: then we must boost the military ranks, not call for mercenarires. How about a draft? It worked in my time when I was in. And then we have the entire nation involved, unlike those who sit on the sidelines as pundits.
Comment by leftcoast — October 1, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
Daryll would apply for Conscientious Objector status so fast your head would spin.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:55 pm!
PLEASE STOP REPEATING THE IGNORANT COMMENTS.
PLEASE!
a referral by number or time is WAY MORE RECOGNITION
than that treasonous trooll deserves.
PLEASE.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:55 pm.
Blackwater is easing the load on our military.
Comment by Daryll — October 1, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
Are you serious, Daryll?? Supporting and condoning a mercenary SS Corps? This is absolutely against all that our Founding Fathers set up for this Democracy. If they came goose-stepping down your street, you may very well change your tune.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:56 pmhe believes the Constitution is a “goddammed piece of paperâ€, like every other good neocon.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:56 pmWayne: I believe you’re right. May he spend his days at GITMO under democrat rule since the authority will be ours (unfortunately for America).
Sorry Katy. You’re right.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:57 pmBlackwater sent 4 of their employees into a dangerous Falujah neighborhood WITHOUT protection for cooking fixtures. Their families are suing Blackwater.
Iraqis really resent the shoot first actions of Blackwater, and their immunity from justice. Our military resents the resentment of the Iraqis caused by Blackwater.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:58 pmRucerious and Wayne, this has nothing to do with dictatorship. Stop diverting from the true subject. Our military is stretched thin. Blackwater is easing the load on our military.
Comment by Daryll
Oh, I beg to differ with you. Bush’s private armies (the contractors in Iraq) are all part of Bush’s plan to install himself as our permanent dictator. He is quite likely to declare Martial Law before the next election and install Blackwater and their ilk in as his private army. Are you OK with that? He will have to install Blackwater and others as his private Army because he knows that if he tries to take over our government, our military will perform a coup and march his ass off to jail.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:59 pmI will be interested to see Gates’ report. He was so upset with the State Dept. report that he decided to have Defense look into it. Gates may be appointed by Bush but I believe he is more objective than State who has botched this war from the beginning.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:00 pmYou don’t actually think these guys want to be mercenaries because they DON’T want to shoot people - do you?
October 1st, 2007 at 7:01 pmDaryll would apply for Conscientious Objector status so fast your head would spin.
Comment by gummitch
Yes he would. I would bet my bottom dollar on it. He’s a warrior at the keyboard, but a chickenhawk in real life. All hat and no cattle - just like his king.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:01 pmblack water is NOT EASING THE BURDEN — THE ARE THE BURDEN.
THEY ARE COSTING THE TREASURY AND THE REPUTATION
OF THIS COUNTRY.
THEY ARE MAKING ANY KIND OF PEACE IMPOSSIBLE.
THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN THE MILITARY AND DONE THEIR JOBS
INSTEAD OF QUITTING THE COUNTRY TO MAKE MORE MONEY -
BLOOD MONEY.
MERCENARY BLOOD MONEY.
.
i’m done with this… makes me sick to my stomach…
… privitizing a nation’s soldiers… who ever would’ve guessed…
October 1st, 2007 at 7:04 pm.
Didn’t have time to read all the post’s sorry, been to busy today….Everyone get’s all excited about these evil mercineries and their name, Blackwater……Well, guess what folk’s, those of us that know about blackwater, own RV’S, deal with blackwater all the time and the answer to the word is one flushes it, the same need’s to be done with this administration……..Blessings
October 1st, 2007 at 7:04 pmIsrael ( God’s chosen people).
Comment by Daryll
Lord knows you got left behind, Daryll….
October 1st, 2007 at 7:05 pm(death of a poster)
Comment by Psycho President
Oh No! Say it isn’t so. Crap, I loved the posts from him/her/it.
And Daryll you are so wrong in so many different ways.
Buck Fush
October 1st, 2007 at 7:05 pmGummitch, by removimg 60% of the soldiers from Afghanistan, 30% from Iraq and adding numerous Security Contractors, we will have more than enough to overthrow Iran.
Comment by naive troll
If I am not mistaken, Iran has one million soldiers in it’s armed forces right now. We have about 165,000 in iraq plus another 180,000 mercenaries. Darryl, that leaves us quite short of doing any good in Iran - unless you consider the wholesale slaughter of your fellow citizens a good thing. I think yours is some kind of fuzzy math, no? Please stop trying to defend the indefensible. It makes you appear foolish and uninformed.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:06 pmkaty, it’s worse than that. Read this post over at TPM.
Let’s just outsource the whole State Department. God knows Condi isn’t doing the job.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:08 pmDaryll sez:
First of all, Daryll, the identity of “God’s chosen people” tends to differ according to which magic book you happen to be consulting.
Second, the Iranian regime does not want to “destroy Israel”. That tired lie has been debunked enough times already. Stop it.
Third, it’s interesting that you’re praying for the overthrow of the regime…an event guaranteed to be accompanied by much death and suffering…rather than pray for…say… Ahmadinjad to see the light, accept Jesus Christ as his personal Savior, and lead his people down the path of righteousness. Funny how you Fundies always pray for war and death…what would Jesus think?
October 1st, 2007 at 7:09 pmby removimg 60% of the soldiers from Afghanistan, 30% from Iraq and adding numerous Security Contractors, we will have more than enough to overthrow Iran.
Yeah…let’s hire the mujahadeen like we did in the 80’s as Security Contractors. they are enemies of Iran, and Rumsfeld probably still has their phone numbers.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:11 pmGummitch, by removimg 60% of the soldiers from Afghanistan, 30% from Iraq and adding numerous Security Contractors, we will have more than enough to overthrow Iran. I have prayed for the overthrow of the Iranian Regime because they want to destroy Israel ( God’s chosen people).
Comment by Daryll — October 1, 2007 @ 7:02 pm
We can afford to removing 60% of the soldiers in Afghanistan and 30% in Iraq?
Wow.
So let’s just do that for starters. Let them come home and rest for a year or two, since Darryl has demonstrated that they’re unnecessary where they are now.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:16 pmWhat do we expect, these are “Storm Troopers” just like out of “Star Wars”. Their paid job is to fire first and clear the area, not to act like Americans.
Dave
October 1st, 2007 at 7:20 pmFunny how you Fundies always pray for war and death…what would Jesus think?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — October 1, 2007 @ 7:09 pm
well said Trip.
Bet Daryll ignores your post.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:23 pmok - i read another comment and have to point something out…
correct me if i’m wrong - but to fulfull the prophecy of the rapture thing,
don’t the israelites HAVE to be destroyed so that all the good christians
can inhabit the holy land… before ascending into the heavens…
i’m not up on the stories, but i’m fairly sure that
israel MUST be destroyed… according to the christians…
eh?
October 1st, 2007 at 7:30 pmI’m not up on the stories either, katy…especially the “Rapture”, which is a childish and transparent revenge fantasy.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:35 pmYou’re subhuman slime, CI. I wouldn’t spit on you if you were on fire.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:36 pmFirst the Israelis have to rebuild the temple in jerusalem. Unfortunately for them , the muslims have built a mosque on top of it.
And just a visit by Ariel Sharon to the site set off the antifadah.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:36 pmok - i read another comment and have to point something out…
correct me if i’m wrong - but to fulfull the prophecy of the rapture thing,
don’t the israelites HAVE to be destroyed so that all the good christians
can inhabit the holy land… before ascending into the heavens…
Comment by katy — October 1, 2007 @ 7:30 pm
The rapture is not even in the Bible. It is a myth that was made up by an american preacher.
The Rapture is cult idiocy invented by Darby in 1802 and has been rebuked by churches throughout the rest of the world.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:36 pmCan I second that Bravo to TMM…..My magic book’s say harm none and I’m a pagan……Gees these warmonger’s are evil and tiresome..Guess it goes along with bushco’s cut it, drill it or kill it plan…..Blessings all
October 1st, 2007 at 7:40 pmComment by Cynicon Implant — October 1, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
You are a disgusting sub-human piece of filth.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:41 pmMy magic book’s say harm none
Comment by Witch1 — October 1, 2007 @ 7:40 pm
“Do what ye will, but harm none.”
Wise words and not easily followed, because forethought into every action must be made to insure no harm to others.
Thanks for reminding us, Great Lady =)
October 1st, 2007 at 7:45 pmWow…Mike Gravel on tonights Newshour just laid the blame for the recent Iran resolution at the doorstep of AIPAC.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:45 pmTake your pick, Implant, here’s another choice for you…
(see it?)
October 1st, 2007 at 7:46 pmBlackwater scum. Shameful.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:47 pmComing from you Wayne, I can’t tell you how little that bothers me.
Comment by Cynicon Implant — October 1, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
From your vile comment, I would assume very little bothers you at all.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:47 pmThe sad fact is, soldiers (regular military) regularly use, and are encouraged to use, loud music with violent lyrics to get themselves pumped up going into battle.
We can scarce imagine what the mercenaries pump themselves up with.
Perhaps “Money” by Pink Floyd……
October 1st, 2007 at 7:55 pmAnd from reading many of your comments,
Comment by Cynicon Implant — October 1, 2007 @ 7:52 pm
I’m shocked!
You can actually read?
October 1st, 2007 at 7:59 pmNot only that but I can type too!
Comment by Cynicon Implant — October 1, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
Wonders never cease. =D
October 1st, 2007 at 8:03 pmWayne, stop feeding the infantile little troll. As you can see from his earlier “joke in bad taste”, he’s desperate for attention…any attention.
Don’t give it to him. If he wants to discuss issues like an adult, that’s one thing, but this is quite another.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:04 pmI have prayed for the overthrow of the Iranian Regime because they want to destroy Israel ( God’s chosen people).
Comment by Daryll
And I am sure when God hears your prayers, he shudders to think what he has created. You pray for death and destruction. My what a good little Christian you are.
And that canard of Iran wanting to destroy Israel was debunked a long time ago. He was talking about destroying the Israel Government, not Israel as a whole. On the other hand, I could not blame him for wanting to destroy Israel considering how they are always threatening other nations, kind of like we do.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:13 pmWayne, stop feeding the infantile little troll.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — October 1, 2007 @ 8:04 pm
Sorry was fascinated for a minute there, like poking a slug with a stick, to see what it does.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:16 pmheh
Usually just gets the stick slimy…… ;)
October 1st, 2007 at 8:21 pmThis really was inevitable. This is going to get ugly.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:30 pmi poor salt on the slugs in my garden…
if only words do what salt does to slugs…
October 1st, 2007 at 8:35 pm…
Looks like CI got punted
October 1st, 2007 at 8:49 pmLooks like CI got punted
Comment by Wayne — October 1, 2007 @ 8:49 pm
When their hatred and blind bushco man-love gets in the way of reality, that can happen.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:57 pmSaucers of beer left in the garden will take care of slugs… it’s actually a pleasurable task refilling the saucers….
October 1st, 2007 at 9:17 pmYOu mean the private contractors just shoot people?
/sarcasm
October 1st, 2007 at 9:23 pmThat’s the big problem with guns. Men want to use them.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:37 pmmen of excellent stature
Kind of reminds me of
Rodents of unusual size???
October 1st, 2007 at 10:28 pmOur military is stretched thin. Blackwater is easing the load on our military.
You little slime toad. I served in the military when we had our own cooks and drivers and were self sufficient. WE didn’t need mercenaries.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:30 pmPiss off.
I served in the military when we had our own cooks and drivers and were self sufficient. WE didn’t need mercenaries.
Comment by RUCerious — October 1, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
That was very true, in the pre-GWB world.
They are bleeding the military as dry as they are bleeding the treasury.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:28 pmWith more caring towards the dollars, than then men and women serving.
Psycho come back! He always made be spurt my coffee everywhere! This is an adult site!
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:22 amI have a question.
If guys like Daryll and Tracy are such badasses, why don’t they go to work for Blackwater too?
I hear you don’t have to be ex military. I hear they train people too.
Why not join blackwater if they’re so brave?
I know why.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — October 1, 2007 @ 7:04 pm
I’m not sure if Daryll has ever responded to a question like yours. But Tracy, some months ago on a Giuliani thread, responded to a question about why he’s not in the military and fighting in the war he sports that he doesn’t “want to be away from (his) wife and kids for an extended period of time.” In other words, a typical chickenhawk.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:34 amTo initiate firing means that the other, hostile and ready to fire side does not fire first. If the other side does not fire first chances of survival for you and those that you protect go up. And that is why you go the job in the first place. In every exchange like that - does not matter if you are first one to fire or not - there is a danger of unwanted collateral damage. What do you prefer: to be dead or to have slightly increased probability collateral damage by the first shot? Besides, if you elliminate the thread on the onset, chance of a collateral damage goes dramatically down in the overall statistics.
So, please, do not insult our intelligence by complaining about being alert and reacting on it….
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:59 am