Harkin: ‘Maybe Limbaugh was high on drugs again.’
Today on the Senate floor, Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) condemned Rush Limbaugh’s “phony soldiers” comment, saying that the radio host makes these “provocative things to make more money.” He then offered another possible explanation for Limbaugh’s “over-the-line” remarks:
Well, I don’t know. Maybe he was just high on his drugs again. I don’t know whether he was or not. If so, he ought to let us know. But that shouldn’t be an excuse.
(HT: TP commenter Candyce)
Transcript:
HARKIN: I’ll just close, Mr. President, by noting that in August, seven soldiers published an op-ed in the New York Times criticizing the current strategy in Iraq. Tragically, two of those soldiers were subsequently killed in action, making the ultimate sacrifice for their country.
I can only assume by Mr. Limbaugh’s definition that they too were “phony soldiers.” Now what’s most despicable is that Mr. Limbaugh says these provocative things to make more money. So he castigates our soldiers, this makes more news, more people tune in, he makes more money.
Well, I don’t know. Maybe he was just high on his drugs again. I don’t know whether he was or not. If so, he ought to let us know. But that shouldn’t be an excuse.
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As much as I dislike rightwing idiots, I dont think personal issues should be brought up to bash any stupid statement made by stupid people.
We could have the cleanest guy saying stuff about US soldiers or about bombing Iran and he still would be dead wrong.
October 1st, 2007 at 3:44 pmHe never quit being high on drugs and little boys. Slam dunk!!!
Buck Fush
October 1st, 2007 at 3:45 pmit’s…uhhh…not my viagra, I swear!! i was, err..holding it for…uhhh, a friend.
October 1st, 2007 at 3:47 pmWill this be what gets Rush off of Armed Forces Radio? They don’t have much of a choice as it is, but we can surely do better.
October 1st, 2007 at 3:49 pmHello congress, there’s a war or two going on. Can we please focus on things that actually matter!
October 1st, 2007 at 3:53 pmHow about showing this type of balls when talking about Cheney, Bush, and the Republican Senators? Call out my Senator Lugar. I have called his office several times but who am I? Nobody. Call him and the others out on the floor of the Senate. They should be ashamed of how they have acted these past 7 years.
October 1st, 2007 at 3:54 pmAs Rush Limbaugh just said on his radio program, quit hiding behind the Senate microphone and come on to his show, and have it out like a real man.
You Dems are cowards, and wouldn’t dare go head to head with Rush, because he would slaughter you. You are right to fear him.
October 1st, 2007 at 3:56 pmWRONG
It was John Soltz that called out Limpballs to have him on his show last week. Lush is late to the party. He will say on his program that nobody would come and you will believe it.
And I would take Lush any day.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:00 pmZING! I actually think Harkin was being nice to Limbaugh… the truth is, it’s not drugs, Rush is just a d**k…
October 1st, 2007 at 4:01 pmThis IS about the war. Chicken hawks pushing it and patriots trying bring our men home.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:01 pmRepublicans divide Americans for $$$.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:01 pm“As Rush Limbaugh just said on his radio program, quit hiding behind the Senate microphone and come on to his show, and have it out like a real man.”
or maybe rush should “man up” and run for senate.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:02 pmI think I’m going to go around town b!tchslapping any Republican I see and call it “enchanced manhood challenges”.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:03 pmI disagree with the conclusion. I dont think Rush intended to denigrate any soldier.
Comment by Vendetta — October 1, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
Do you believe MoveOn meant to?
October 1st, 2007 at 4:04 pmpull Rush from Armed Forces Radio, the way they did Air America…
October 1st, 2007 at 4:05 pmHarkin:”We like to know what was he smoking…so we know how to draft the bill…”!!
October 1st, 2007 at 4:07 pm“That would be foolish of him. He makes more money and has more influence right where he is.”
plus, he’d lose.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:07 pmI agree that the Senate and the House are wasting a lot of time on matters concerning MoveOn and now Limbaugh, Columbia University, et al.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:13 pmBut these are the levels to which the news and the public attention has stooped.
All that being said, I regret that time which should be spent in dealing with really important legislation, the war in Iraq and Bush&Co lies, secrecy and felonious activities is being spent on this.
However, the Repugs are still controlling the rules of play, and taking the higher ground doesn’t succeed in this adversarial climate.
It’s fair to fight back. You have to get the attention of the bullies.
I don’t know - this seems like a sideshow. Tit for tat. The republicans were stupid to waste their time and our money on condemning the MoveOn ad and the Dems are stupid for wasting their time and our money on this. Let’s get on with ending this war, not throwing a tantrum every time someone on the other side of the argument throws an insult.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:15 pmComment by familyman — October 1, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
While I support your ideals, your naive idealism is the reason why the Republicans can call the Dems unpatriotic every time the Dems attempt to do something to end the war.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:22 pmSo how about bringing those troops home? Or I guess it’s more important to bash right wing nut jobs. Because they are so rare.
~Sean
October 1st, 2007 at 4:23 pmWhat can I say - I’m a dreamer.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:23 pmOur worthless Democrats…
I am registered Democratic, but my party is really disgusting me. It really seems as though they’re more interested in having issues and beating the Republicans than anything else. That’s why they won’t end the war. They want the issue in 2008. “Why do anything that might change the public’s mood when it is so heavily in their favor?” is the attitude. It doesn’t seem like “because you can save thousands of lives” is a good enough answer. It seems like if there are 99 Dems and one Republican senator in the Senate (who decides to put a block on whatever bill Dems want to pass), the Democrats will throw up their hands and do nothing and insist that we’ve just got to beat that one guy in the next election to get anything done.
And now this. Democrats focus all the public’s attention into a “gotcha” of the Republicans for denouncing MoveOn and now having to denounce Rush or look like hypocrites. Guess what, we already know Republicans are hypocrites. Sadly, now we know that you are, too. You could have brought an end to the Iraq War like you said you would, but instead you choose to point out hypocritical Republicans.
Oh, and one more thing. It’s called free speech. Don’t denounce people for exercising that right.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:24 pmI like Harkin (and really dislike Limbaugh) but this is just wrong. It’s a very cheap shot and it leaves us on the Left open to ridicule for always paying lip service to compassion and understanding of human foibles while ridiculing the afflicted.
Let’s face it, folks, as odious as Limbaugh is, he *is* afflicted by his addictive nature. We can’t go around ridiculing him for it.
jb
October 1st, 2007 at 4:28 pmOur troops will be there for decades. Get a grip?
Comment by Michael — October 1, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
Then you better sign up Michael, they need you. Don’t forget to get the kids involved too. They would have fun over in Iraq. 115+ daily, getting shot at, and blown up. I mean if it is so urgent, and important, then it is your patriotic duty to serve, and make sure you family serves as well. Otherwise the Islamofacsists win.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:29 pm“Then you better sign up Michael”
if his ‘ardent support’ of the military is anything like rush’s, it stops at a certain point just short of actually signing up.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:34 pmHigh on Drugs Nothing! Limbaugh is a Certified Moron.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:36 pmboreas: I disagree. His dependency is “his problem”, that’s true - but when he uses it to make excuses for his behavior which is “public” then he invites the criticism. He deserves all the criticism for both his dependency on drugs as well as his mouth. Since they are connected, they cannot be separated and dealt with that way. He is the sum total of ALL of his parts, as we all are. You can’t begin to sort and cull and then castigate others for believing that he’s unable or unwilling to kick the habit and uses it to excuse his disgusting behavior. Life just doesn’t work that way.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:38 pmBoreas: P.S. No one but Rush is putting those addictive drugs down his throat! He owns both - the addiction and the behavior. Plenty of people have overcome their addictions because they “wanted to”.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:40 pmWhat can I say - I’m a dreamer.
Comment by familyman — October 1, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
but you’re not the only one. . . .
Damn it, now that song is in my head.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:43 pmI would like Harkin to quote exactly where he called an active or retired soldiers or soldiers who actually were in Iraq or Afghanistan phony. He was referring to those “phony soldiers” that make up things like Jesse Macbeth, a former hero to the left. Macbeth claimed to be a an Army Ranger and alleged US military was routinely murdering Iraqi civilians. He claimed to kill 200 people himself, many at close range, including some as the prayed in mosque.
I am sure the enemy ate that up for their agenda toward United States efforts in Iraq. Another example of the left willing to do anything, yet still do nothing at all.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:55 pmYou Dems are cowards, and wouldn’t dare go head to head with Rush, because he would slaughter you. You are right to fear him.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Thanks for the laugh Jason. I needed that. The thought that Rush Limbaugh could slaughter any Democratic opponent gave me a good laugh. Hell, I could out debate Rush. No one fears him, it’s just that no one thinks that he is worth the time of day.
How about this, once one of the Rethugs has a public debate with moveon.org about their Betrayus ad, then we’ll talk to you about having one of our Democrats go on Rush’s show. My bet is that there isn’t a Republican out there who would dare go face to face with moveon.org.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:55 pm“My bet is that there isn’t a Republican out there who would dare go face to face with moveon.org.”
keep in mind that repubs will only do a debate if there are no minorities involved.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:59 pmHe was referring to those “phony soldiers†that make up things like Jesse Macbeth, a former hero to the left.
Comment by ANeccessaryEvil
Sorry Right Wing Loon ANeccessaryEvil. That excuse has been thoroughly debunked. Limbaugh didn’t mention Jessie Macbeth until long after he had already called our soldiers “phony soldiers”.
Besides, if that is the case, then why did Rush apologize?
October 1st, 2007 at 5:05 pmVendetta, the US is highly sensitive when it comes to its soldiers. I would say that there is people who is doing its best out there and people who is deranged, soldiers are not different from this.
Soldiers that thought the whole invasion was wrong, that delivering democracy with guns and weapons, that suspected about their true mission when the Oil Ministry was the most important building in Baghdad to be seized, are correct and are good, intelligent people.
Soldiers that raped women and shot point blank kids in Qana, are despicable as any tyrant.
I hold special regards for soldiers as much as I hold special regards for cooks or gardeners.
So the MoveOn issue as the Rush issue is almost irrelevant for me while soldiers are being shot and civilians still bombed.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:05 pm“I can only assume by Mr. Limbaugh’s definition that they too were “phony soldiers.â€
Yet another politician making uninformed comments based on other political hacks trying to defend MoveOn.org.
Comment by Tracy1
Right Wing Loon Tracy1 thinks that calling Limbaugh on his insult to our troops is defending moveon.org. S/he makes a typical Rethug leap in coming to that conclusion. But then s/he has to do something to deflect attention from the fact that her hero Rush opened his big fat prejudiced evil mouth one time to many and got caught with his pants down. Too bad so sad Right Wing Loon. Get over it.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:09 pmDrudge visitors: just read the comments, you’ll see what this movement is all about.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:10 pmYou people are crazy!
Comment by Billy Hill
No Right Wing Loon Billy Hill, you are delusional. Rush said absolutely nothing about ABC news or about Jesse Macbeth during the conversation he was having with the so-called “soldier”. They were both talking about a previous caller who was supporting soldiers speaking out against the War in Iraq. No matter how many times you want to try to twist what Rush did into something that suits your purpose, you can’t argue with what he really said, not want you want us to think he said. I have read the transcript of his show and it didn’t happen like you would like to think it happened.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:12 pmClearly this is an unbalanced individual.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
I agree.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:18 pmTP should ban Tracy for writing threats against another commenter.
people like billy hill are crazy. Look at how you have to parse and select Rush’s statements to defend him! Your minor god Rush, screwed up big time, and it looks like it is biting him in the ass.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:19 pmAnyone notice how Harkin wants to say “it’s no excuse” for Limbaugh to be on drugs and (allegedly) say things he disagrees with, but just last week Harkin wanted a retiring General to distance himself from comments which said that there’s no place for adultery in the Armed Forces?
Harkin is now not only unreliable, he’s laughable. We should e-mail Harkin and tell him that it’s no excuse to be a U.S. Senator and to act the way he is acting purely for political gain.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:21 pmYou can get the facts with less energy than it takes to rant against Bush or make ad hominem attacks against Rush.
All the transcripts are available on RushLimbaugh.com. Probably too difficult to take the time to read the facts and make an honest assessment. Much easier to whine and emote. Bush hating fanaticism at it’s best. Such a miserable bunch. Completely overcome with profound, irrational hatred.
Very amusing to watch.
Let the crackup continue!
October 1st, 2007 at 5:28 pmLet the crackup continue!
Comment by laughing_all_the way
Yeah, tell us when youve found Bin Laden, buddy.
I bet that you were laughing all the way on 9/11.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:32 pmMuch easier to whine and emote. Bush hating fanaticism at it’s best. Such a miserable bunch. Completely overcome with profound, irrational hatred.
Comment by laughing_all_the way — October 1, 2007 @
Change Bush hating to Bush loving, and it sounds exactly like the current crop of right wingers. Though Bush worshiping might be more accurate.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:33 pmIf you like Limbaugh or not is a moot point here. The fact is Senator Harry Reid is using Mcarthy-like attacks on a private citizen and denying a person their first amendment rights. You can disagree with a person, but to use the power of the United States Senate on the senate floor to do so is going way to far.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:36 pmThe fact is that Limbaugh never said the things the way that Senator Reid and others have said that he did. Mr. Limbaugh was talking about an individual who claimed to have been in the war and killed people in the war, but was found out he actually washed out of basic training and never did the things he claimed he did and that other soldiers did with him. He was talking about people like that.
Senator Reid, can you say ethics violation? When the facts some out that he claimed a private citizen said something he did not say and attempted to deny a person their first amendment rights I doubt if he will remain the majority leader, and maybe not even a senator, much longer. To deny someones constitutional right is a serious offense.
It is amazing how obsessed the left is with Rush!!! The truth really does hurt, that is why they are so focused and reactionary to every little thing he says.
Just a reflection of how great a job he is doing to promote his ideas.
Keep up the good work Rush! We all know the truth. On the left, and the right. The fascist lefties are going to keep trying silence you!
Looking forward to this electoral season, it is going to be one heck of a roller coaster ride!
Viva RUSH!
October 1st, 2007 at 5:38 pmWas Harkin high on drugs when he married that ugly man he calls his wife?
October 1st, 2007 at 5:39 pmRush challenged Homosexual Harry to come on his show and repeat his lies. We all know Homosexual Harry lacks the cojones for that.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:41 pmTo Billbobaggins and others …
You are wrong…again. Rush had a morning update on September 25th, a day before the caller that everyone is now so upset about.
The update is about Jesse Macbeth, the supposed Army Ranger corporal who told of the abuses by American troops, killing unarmed civilians — hundreds of men, women, and even children. In one gruesome account, translated into Arabic and spread widely across the Internet, MacBeth describes the horrors this way: “We would burn their bodies… hang their bodies from the rafters in the mosque.”
The trouble was this guy a phony. He lasted 44 days in the Army, never mde it out of boot camp, never was a Ranger, never was a corporal, never went to Iraq and recently was sentenced to 5 months in jail for falsifing his military record.
The Rush Limbaugh update discussed how the anti war movement uses these phone soldiers with phony stories to support allegations against the military. Then when the truth is known, no one every corrects the record or apologizes to the troops for the slander.
That was the phone soldier story - that was what Limbaugh was referring to. You clearly have not read the transcript.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:45 pmIronic thing is that Harkin is just the kind of “phony soldier” that Limbaugh was talking about…those that exaggerate or falsify their service history.
“In 1979, Mr. Harkin, then a congressman, participated in a round-table discussion arranged by the Congressional Vietnam Veterans’ Caucus. ‘I spent five years as a Navy pilot, starting in November of 1962,’ Mr. Harkin said at that meeting, in words that were later quoted in a book, Changing of the Guard, by Washington Post political writer David Broder. ‘One year was in Vietnam. I was flying F-4s and F-8s on combat air patrols and photo-reconnaissance support missions. I did no bombing.’
“That clearly is not an accurate picture of his Navy service. . . . Mr. Harkin’s Navy record shows his only decoration is the National Defense Service Medal, awarded to everyone on active service during those years. He did not receive either the Vietnam Service medal or the Vietnam Campaign medal, the decorations given to everyone who served in the Southeast Asia theater.”
October 1st, 2007 at 5:45 pmThe fascist lefties
Comment by laughing_all_the way
Folks, I think all has been said.
Maybe Mussolini and its Fascio were really from the left and it went unnoticed… mmmm…
October 1st, 2007 at 5:45 pmComment by Juan C
Isn’t that rich.
Awe, now play nice in the sandbox tough guy. No need for more name calling “buddy”
Focus your rage on Bush and Rush… let it alllll out. We don’t want you hurting yourself.
But then, we all know Bush orchestrated 9/11 right? Why worry about Bin Laden?
What a tool.
Heh, heh… Good times.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:46 pmNice try liberals!
Let the troops decide if Rush was dishonoring them.
Another fine example of the Libs taking something out of contest and trashing them.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:47 pmLOL Rush stepped in it, and the rightards are out trying to make him sound like a human. Sorry guys, it doesn’t appear to be working. Perhaps you should scream louder. Rush called soldiers phonys, if they didn’t support the Iraq. Time to go back to reading comprehension 101.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:49 pmBut then, we all know Bush orchestrated 9/11 right? Why worry about Bin Laden?
Comment by laughing_all_the way
Maybe we should ask the FBI why OBL isnt wanted for 9/11.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:49 pmTP, Tracy1 should be banned.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:51 pmNow comes Tom Harkin. On Monday the Iowa Senator lashed out at Dick Cheney, claiming the Vice President had no right to criticize Mr. Kerry’s policies for the war on terror because Mr. Cheney had a deferment back then: “When I hear this coming from Dick Cheney, who was a coward, who would not serve during the Vietnam War, it makes my blood boil.”
“Coward”? Such a comment would take chutzpah coming from anyone. But Senator Harkin is a proven fabricator when it comes to his own Vietnam-era record, as shown during his own failed 1992 Presidential bid. Consider this excerpt from a Wall Street Journal news story by James M. Perry from December 26, 1991:
“In 1979, Mr. Harkin, then a congressman, participated in a round-table discussion arranged by the Congressional Vietnam Veterans’ Caucus. ‘I spent five years as a Navy pilot, starting in November of 1962,’ Mr. Harkin said at that meeting, in words that were later quoted in a book, Changing of the Guard, by Washington Post political writer David Broder. ‘One year was in Vietnam. I was flying F-4s and F-8s on combat air patrols and photo-reconnaissance support missions. I did no bombing.’
“That clearly is not an accurate picture of his Navy service. . . . Mr. Harkin’s Navy record shows his only decoration is the National Defense Service Medal, awarded to everyone on active service during those years. He did not receive either the Vietnam Service medal or the Vietnam Campaign medal, the decorations given to everyone who served in the Southeast Asia theater.”
It turned out Mr. Harkin had not seen combat and was stationed in Japan.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:51 pmgmood:
Good job. I had forgotton about Homosexual Harkin’s lies about his military service.
This seems to be a phenomenon amonst the left. Dan Rather used to claim that he was a former Marine. However, Rather washed out during boot camp and, thus, never earned the title “Marine.”
Let’s also keep in mind that the pussy Podesta was Bill Clinton’s chief of staff. Unlike Rush Limbaugh and his support for the military, the draft-dodger Clinton said he loathed the military.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:52 pmBTW, Bush can hardly orchestrate his English…so… I think thats out of the question.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:52 pmWOW!!!!! it is utterly scary and down right appalling to listen to some of the childish comments on here. Please, by all means don’t bother to even do some of your own research to understand the true story and unfolding of events. 1) Sickening to see our so-called senators wasting our time and money over a trivial matter over a 3 minute conversation just because they need something to stand on (they’re drowning in their own vomit) 2) Since when did the liberal movement ever support the troops, never!!!!all the while paying for a full page ad “defaming” an actual individual and his integrity and character, which by the sounds of it most of you individuals on this post seem to lack. 3) Liberals can never be trusted to run government, period!!!!! how can anyone take you seriously with all the name bashing going on in here. Stop Whining so damned much about the war(s). Its inevitable, we as a country voted for it, humanity requires it, history supports it, utopia’s don’t exist so stop trying to create one. Extreme Islam needs an attitude adjustment and we’re here to do just that. Quit crying about our soldiers dying for whatever cause you may think they’re dying for. They’re professional, they made the choice and are living with it day to day and doing it well.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:54 pmThe Homosexual Harkin, until he figured out that the Marines and soldiers would become angry, tried to get Limbaugh taken off of Armed Forces Radio.
Note that there has been no outcry from members of the military to have Limbaugh removed from their radio station. They know the sissies in the Democrat Party are lying about what Limbaugh said. They’re not as gullible as these idiots who are spoonfed lies from Think Progress and Media Matters.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:57 pmHarkin is the real phony. If you will correctly remember, he tried for years to pass himself off as a combat aviator. He got away with it for years but finally it was dicovered he was a ferry pilot stateside. He got a few strings pulled and he got a cush duty here in the states but tried to pass himself off as a something else. Most of you people who hate Rush no deep down where your courage should reside that he is almost always accurate and right about most everything. He did show courage when he got himself into rehab and told it like it was on the air for all to hear.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:58 pmkeithn, propaganda happy hour is in about 2 hours. Catch up.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:59 pmbtw, go to FBI.gov and look at the statistics of violent crime here in America…we kill ourselves more each day in this country, than whatever “war statistics” you may read about in the news. Put your perspectives in place. No its not justification for 1 life lost in Iraq or Afghanistan, but they’re doing a job while we just kill each other here everyday for stupid things like road rage, and getting picked on at school. Your so concerned about pulling out of Iraq, how about all the deaths related to just trying to get a higher education in this country.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:03 pmAll the wingnuts are pouring in from their first line of attack- Drudge (the eggman). Get the disinfectant ready.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:03 pmMost of you people who hate Rush no deep down where your courage should reside that he is almost always accurate and right about most everything. He did show courage when he got himself into rehab and told it like it was on the air for all to hear.
Comment by FactChecker16 — October 1, 2007 @
Oh man that line had me rolling. The best so far. Where are the rest of the ditto heads to explain what “Rush Really Meant”
October 1st, 2007 at 6:04 pmWikipedia notes the following about Homosexual Harkin’s lies about his military service: “References to this controversy were deleted from Wikipedia by staffers from Harkin’s senate office”
Isn’t it interesting how liberals such as Harkin lie about others and then try to hide the truth about themselves? It’s a shame he didn’t go flying with Wellstone.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:04 pmOuch. That hurt Rush’s feelings. Now he’ll need to self-medicate.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:05 pmIt would be funny, if it wasn’t so sad, to see all you liberals getting all worked up over an issue you don’t have the facts right. You’re only making fools of yourselves if you keep depending on Media Matters and MoveOn.org for your information. They don’t care about accuracy. They only care about creating misinformation that they use to get YOU to send them checks. And you liberals are sadly dumb enough to fall for it.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:06 pmlol..sorry juan, i guess the my thread went off on a tangent…
October 1st, 2007 at 6:06 pmSen. Harkless, just like the rest of the libs/lefitists, and the Demoncratic losers, know Rush was referring to your hero, Jesse Macbeth. Jesse was a complete fraud in the grand tradition of Demoncratic support of our troops, thus his hero status in your eyes. As the lowlifes you are, I am amazed any of you have the audacity to suggest that Rush be removed from his armed services broadcasts. If you weren’t so much like the Sandanistas, I would suggest polling the troops, but your kind was never much for letting others make their own choices. The undeniable loathing of the military by the Demoncrats and their leftists allies (you) makes the indigniation charade too comical.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:06 pmLimbaugh and O’Reilly exhibit more narcissistic traits than anybody I’ve ever observed. Boderline pathogical, it seems, to the point that the truth really doesn’t matter to them. It is a waste of time to debate their truthfulness. It just doesn’t matter. I’m independent, but have been accused of being a liberal by some right wing conservatives. That’s the truth.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:07 pmI’d rather be a right wing nutjob than a liberal with no nuts and no job!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:10 pmI love when war apologists and Bush supporters talk about misinformation and tools.
Maybe they didnt get the memo that there were no WMDs in Iraq.
Played like fine cajun banjos.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:12 pmSen. Harkless, just like the rest of the libs/lefitists, and the Demoncratic losers, know Rush was referring to your hero, Jesse Macbeth. Jesse was a complete fraud in the grand tradition of Demoncratic support of our troops, thus his hero status in your eyes. As the lowlifes you are, I am amazed any of you have the audacity to suggest that Rush be removed from his armed services broadcasts. If you weren’t so much like the Sandanistas, I would suggest polling the troops, but your kind was never much for letting others make their own choices. The undeniable loathing of the military by the Demoncrats and their leftists allies (you) makes the indignation charade too comical.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:14 pmThis thread must have gotten linked by the drudge report or something given the large number of whackos showing up to defend Rush. Funny thing is, I had never heard of the Jesse MacBeth guy until all this started. I guess he wasn’t much of a hero to the left after all. Rush on the other hand is a minor god to the right. A sad, sad state of affairs.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:14 pmDemocrats - Harkin and Reid have made you look verrrrrrrrrrrrrry foolish. This is made all the more sad after reading above that Harkin is, himself — a phony soldier in the same vein as Macbeth.
I’m thinking most of you are wishing you could revoke your post now that you know that Rush was, again — right.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:16 pmSoooooo predictable. As usual, in leiu of an actual statement relative to the issue at hand, the liberals resort to personal attacks and name calling. That’s why left wing talk radio doesn’t work. Once you get past “Bush Sucks,” they really don’t have much to contribute. While we’re on the subject of demoralizing the troops, what effect do you think it has on our fighting men and women when people like Harry Reid give up and say the war is lost, no reason for you to be there anymore? I can tell you one thing….Rush will not let your hypocrisy go unchallenged. MEGA DITTOS and God bless our troops!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:17 pmThe “Best Comment On This Website” award goes to:
ROADKING - for his nutjob response.
signed — Think Progress staff.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:19 pmIt’s hilarious that any lib would even TRY to act like they support the troops more than Limbaugh. Any of you libs on this thread been over to Iraq to show your support like Rush has?
If the liberals are piling on Rush, he must really being doing a lot of things right. Attacking Limbaugh (and being intellectually dishonest) for this statement proves liberals are really grasping at straws in an effort to take him down.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:19 pmHaving perused every comment in this thread, one thing is obvious: none of the commenters actually heard the referenced exchange between Rush and the caller at the time it happened. I’m sure that lots of you heard the soundbite after the fact, but by then your opinions had already been formed by whoever was spoonfeeding you that day.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:19 pmI was listening to Rush that day and heard it all as it happened, including the previous caller who is referenced in the exchange. When Rush spoke the words “phony soldiers” I immediately knew he meant Macbeth, Beauchamp, and their ilk. It was unmistakable.
One other thing. When Rush apologised, he was apologising to the armed forces for Reid and Co’s slander, not his own. Rush has not said anything that he needs to apologize for.
“Then you better sign up Michaelâ€
if his ‘ardent support’ of the military is anything like rush’s, it stops at a certain point just short of actually signing up.
Comment by cha cha cha — October 1, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
I am in the military, I have made it a career that is progressing into its 22nd year. Two of my sons are in the military. ALL THREE OF US have been in both wars over the last 24 months. I just returned from a one year assignment in Balad.
My oldest is a MARINE Captain, my second oldest is a PVT in the Army.
ALL THREE OF US know that we need to be there. I am often amazed by some people who have never wore the uniform believe themselves to be experts in what we need and our desires.
More than 80 percent of the military members that I have talked to believe that we’re on the right course NOW. I will be the first to say that mistakes were made. But if you know war, there are always mistakes made. The thing to remember is to learn from them. We were losing WWII for two years until we got our heads out of our ***. Its a good thing that some of you were not around then.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:19 pmWhat a bunch of losers, having to twist words to come up with blanks to fire at Rush. He runs circles around all those clown democrats. And if he’s doing in while on drugs then that’s just more insulting to the dem’s intelligence level. Go read the transcript of what was really said, and see what a farce it is. Murtha, Carry, and the whole bunch should be apologizing to him and the whole country for such weak actions. The same ones who voted to cut of funding for our troops show who really lacks patriotism, and where’s they’re long awaited apology?? we won’t be holding our breath for that..ha. But that’s ok, Rush did apologize to the troops for the Dems and their “in the pocket” mainstream media.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:21 pmI LOVE IT, 11% APPROVAL AND SINKING !
NOW THEY DEFEND PHONY SOLDIERS BY ATTACKING THOSE
WHO ATTACK PHONY SOLDIERS !!!
A-HA-HAAAAAA IT JUST GETS BETTER EVERYDAY !!!
LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOL
October 1st, 2007 at 6:22 pmWhy all the name calling? This just divides the country. I disagree with many of what Rush says, but I don’t lower myself to the religious right levels, and call him names. Name calling is for childeren. That aside, has anyone actually listened to any proof that limbaugh said what he did. On his show, he claims that we are lying. Let’s not assume that he is guilty simply becaus ewe dislike him. Is that the America we want? Why is congress wasting time addressing this? That is not what I voted for. I want change, not political sound bites. Shame on them.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:23 pmNavy Senior Chief - Thanks to you and your family for your service.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:24 pmThis just goes to show how uninformed you are. Knowing the background info on Macbeth et al is essential to understanding the context of Rush’s remarks. But don’t let that stop you.
One good thing you can say for ignorance - it causes some interesting arguments.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:24 pmeloquently put Lakota, thats it, I’ve rarely ever heard of anything substantial from liberal spew, other than namecalling. case in point, 911truth.org, etc… there is a significant amount of minds out there that actually believe that 911 was a conspiracy of the government and that some of the planes didn’t even crash, they were missiles, we planted explosives in the towers!!! disturbing…simply disturbing…
October 1st, 2007 at 6:25 pm“Limbaugh and O’Reilly exhibit more narcissistic traits than anybody I’ve ever observed”
Comment by Koko Loco — October 1, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
Don’t know about O’Reilly, but Limbaugh does it as a joke, knowing it drives you libs crazy.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:29 pmMan, you dems. are really mentally challenged.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:30 pmRight on, Sen. Harkin. Limbaugh told Reid to come to his show to face him with his charges. Reid should go on Limbaugh’s show after Rush has Jon Soltz from VoteVets on the show.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:31 pmOne good thing you can say for ignorance - it causes some interesting arguments.
Comment by Sole_Earwitness — October 1, 2007 @ 6:24 pm
I was pointing out, that MacBeth’s false story was not as highly spread around as you claim. You can call me ignorant, that is fine, but I had never heard of the guy until this blew up into Rush’s face.
A little link for you to peruse: http://armyofdude.blogspot.com/2007/09/real-deal.html
October 1st, 2007 at 6:34 pmThese right-wing hate mongers are no better than Father Coughlin, and do this country a terrible disservice by lying to their dim bulb followers to divide this country into patriots — those who agree with them — and traitors. They have no understanding of democracy, instead resorting to name calling rather than actually debating issues. I’d love to debate a Rush Limbaugh or Hannity or any of them, although it would be unfair. I’d be armed with facts while they would have to resort to half-truths and name calling. As Jon Stewart pointed out, “Reality has a liberal bias.”
October 1st, 2007 at 6:34 pmSenior Chief, thank you for you and your family’s service!!!!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:37 pmSo, now that you know about Macbeth, now that you understand the true context of Rush’s remark, do you have the intellectual honesty to admit you were wrong?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:38 pmwow, Jon Stewart is a comedian and is very funny, just like Rush Limbaugh. but to say that Rush and Hannity spew half-truths is quite unfair yourself. Can you point out any examples?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:40 pmadmit you were wrong?
Comment by Sole_Earwitness — October 1, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
Rush referred to any soldier who doesn’t support the Iraq war as phony. So no I am not wrong. Referencing something he said from two days previous is well phony on his part, and a sad attempt to deflect his statements.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:41 pmRightman says get it right. He never talked about those 7 soldiers.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:42 pmGo to his website and see and hear the….TRUTH!. If you dare. Or lets just play around with the media that don’t matter again.
With 1/2 my brain tied behind my back the question is, do you libs listen to the news reports? Kerry made a fool of his self while trying to run for president saying, ‘if you don’t go to college you will end up in Iraq’ http://www.cafepress.com/aaronscase/2035570. Gore made an idiot of his self by trying to claim the internet was his invetion. Now, Harkin makes a jerk of his self trying to lambaste Limbaugh over a out of context ‘phony solder’ statement. Please Scotty, beam me up!!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:42 pmWould it surprise anyone of you angry, bitter people that Limbaugh did not make the remarks which have been attributed to him?? Would it surprise you headline whores to find out that you have been duped AGAIN because you failed to actually investigate something before jumping on the tired old bandwagon?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:43 pmI thought not.
What an ugly, hateful bunch of ignoramus punks. It’s very sad.
KRAZNY — please supply a reference to this allegation.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:43 pmDavidknows :
” They have no understanding of democracy…”
BUH-WAH-HA-HAAAA
TALK ABOUT DIM BULBS. LAST TIME WE LOOKED, THE USA
WAS A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC !
LOLOLOLOOLOLOL
HARKIN THE COMBAT VETERAN WHO FLEW OVER NORTH VIETNAM ! ?
A-HA-HAAAA !!!!!!!!
YEAHHH RIIIGGGHHTT !!!!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:44 pmtoday its rush yesterday it was billo they never make mistakes and everyone but them should be held accountable
October 1st, 2007 at 6:45 pmKrazny, He said She said…you seem to be forgetting that none of the military is calling for his appology, in fact, quite support him in his support of the troops. Hes a radio talk host. Seriously, why would our elected officials waste tax payers dollars trying to defame him when there are other more important matters at hand. Like actually supporting our troops and the success of planting a seed of freedom and democracy in that god-forsaken place called the middle east.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:45 pmIf this was 1942 the Democrats would be tried for treason. The have aided and encouraged our enemy with their speech. Slandering our troops and their commanders at every oppurtunity. The truth does not matter to these people and the effect their words have on our troops doesn’t either. They give hope to our enemy that if they just kill a few more Americans we will turn tail and run. Imagine the effect on our enemy if we were united and said “We will not leave until we achieve victory. No matter what the cost.” Democrat leaders are despicable. Now they attack a private citizen, knowing full well that they are spreading lies. There has been no greater supporter of our troops than Rush Limbaugh and they know it. All this from the party that has already declared our troops defeated; that has compared out troops to Nazis, accused them of torture; from a party that is quick to belive the very worst instead of seeing the very best in our troops ie Haditha; a party that insults a four star general leading our troops in battle, HEY, HE IS ONE OF THE TROOPS!! that did not stop you from calling him a liar. You disgust me. Rush is more of a patriot than any of the Democrat leaders will ever know how to be. Rush beat his addiction to painkillers to bad the democrats can’t show the same amount of strength and beat their addiction to deafeat in Iraq
October 1st, 2007 at 6:46 pmDid any of you self described “progressives” actually hear what was said? Or did you take the bait your friends at Media Matters threw out?
Do your homework before you post comments and look like bigger fools each and every day.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:46 pmI thought not.
Ok, everybody! You are no longer allowed to reference anything you said 2 days ago, it confuses liberals. Please keep all remarks current enough for those with short memories/attention spans to keep up with.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:47 pmOtherwise, this is what happens.
Is this for REAL? I can’t believe a senator would stoop so low. That’s over the line. How ignorant. Just like a Democrat to try to throw a red herring. Stick to the point .. RUSH IS RIGHT (even when he was high he was better than most liberals! and at least he took responsibility for his problem and appears to have solved it)
October 1st, 2007 at 6:47 pmWOULD YOU PEOPLE JUST GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. RUSH COMMENTED ON THE “PHONY SOLDIERS” JUST AS ABC DID. IN FACT, ABC REPORTED ON THE SAME PHONY SOLDIER - FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON’T DO YOUR HOMEWORK, THAT MEANS THIS SOLDIER NEVER SERVED IN IRAQ AND MADE UP HIS STORIES.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:47 pmIT IS HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT YOU PEOPLE VOTE!
TO DRAW CONCLUSIONS WITHOUT FINDING OUT THE FACTS - IN OTHER WORDS - TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE TOLD WITHOUT ASKING QUESTIONS IS VERY DISTURBING.
YOU HAVE A BRAIN - USE IT TO CHECK OUT THE FACTS!
DD
What does Jackie and Dunlap have to say about this brew-haha!?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:48 pmAs Jon Stewart pointed out, “Reality has a liberal bias.â€
Comment by Davidknows — October 1, 2007 @ 6:34 pm
You mean Jon Stewart the world renown scholar?
Understanding Democracy? Question - Did our founding fathers attend church services in the Capitol Building and other federal buildings? Did our founding fathers ever determine to setup a welfare state? Were our founding fathers for or against high taxes (even the rich)? And so forth. I’m talking about the guys who wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. The documents that have propelled this country into being the greatest of all time.
If you’re against religion in government and schools, if you think it’s ok to force people by threat of imprisonment (IRS) to give money to charities they don’t agree with (welfare and entitlements) if you’re for high taxes on anyone, then YOU have no clue about the original meaning of Democracy.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:49 pmeverything outside of a “headline” confuses liberals…
October 1st, 2007 at 6:49 pmThe rights godly voice from above slipped in a pile of manure and now they must defend him no matter what. I wonder what they said to the bottle of viagria he had on him after his return from a Jamacian vacation. I am sure it was for medical purposes. Link to him referring to soldiers as phonys.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709270010
October 1st, 2007 at 6:50 pmI wish one member of the party of appeasement would make a valid point rather than make a personal attack on Rush. The fact is Sen. Reid and all of you know what the truth is about what was said but don’t have an ouce of integrity to admit it. You get so angry and emotional that you will lie and deceive your way into the power you love so much. No morals, no ethics and no class describes each of you perfectly. Atleast Rush has some balls.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:50 pmHelloooooooooooooo. You guys forgot….. It’s the charge that counts not the substance. Dee Dee Dee!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:50 pmComment by keithn — October 1, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
Why did the republicans insist on wasting time and taxpayer money on the Move.org ad, or is that different?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:51 pmFirst of all, Rush DID apologize. He apologized on behalf of Harry Reid, John Murtha, Dick Durbin and John Kerry for their comments in the past when they attacked our troops. Those attacks are part of the Senate Record. Rush has nothing to apologize for and believe me, he won’t. The “phony soldiers” to whom he was referring were Jesse Macbeth and his ilk. Macbeth IS a phony soldier who was kicked out of the Army after 44 days in boot camp. Later he claimed to have earned a Purple Heart in Afghanistan and that he was an Army Ranger who participated in the killing of innocent civilians. He, and those like him, ARE “phony soldiers”. These are the individuals Rush was talking about. A simple review of the show’s transcript will confirm this. My question is, “When will Senator Harkin apologize to recovering addicts?”
October 1st, 2007 at 6:51 pmHas anyone read the transcript of what Rush said? He actually named a man who was found guilty of impersonating a solider. He was a ‘phony solider’. It appears this whole issue is growing off of a false description of his statement. Don’t let people like Reid rile us up over a falsehood.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:52 pmHey Kranzy! They did that to support our soldiers.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:52 pmKrazny, you are a coward.
But that’s ok, I’m tired of battling wits with an unarmed person.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:53 pmAtleast Rush has some balls.
Comment by daxawyes — October 1, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
To bad he needs help with them
http://www.cbsnews.com/ stories/ 2006/ 06/ 27/ national/ main1753947.shtml
October 1st, 2007 at 6:53 pmTo Keithn,
Why are the Stalinists wasting time on private citizens who denigrate phony soldiers who deserve instead of writing legislation?
Hmm, you know, stuff like maybe a BUDGET!
LOL
October 1st, 2007 at 6:53 pm*who deserve it
October 1st, 2007 at 6:55 pmSenator Harkin, to paraphrase Henry Fonda in “Fort Apahe”, you a blagart, a crook, a fool and a stench in the nostrils of honest men.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:56 pmSome Dem’s are Libs, all Libs are Cowards. Reid and Harkin don’t have the Balls to debate with Rush. They’re both Libs.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:56 pmHarkin the most ultra liberal Anti American, Anti Military says what? He was pitted on Soldiers as they came back from Viet Nam as he was smoking dope! To Harken go to hell you wimpy littlle coward with no balls!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:59 pmheheh, downright scary to think half the Americans in this country support that mindset. i suppose its really not worth commenting on Krazny so i’ll just stop here and now. but yeah, its quite annoying to see my taxpayers dollars going to something so damned trivial…
October 1st, 2007 at 6:59 pmKrazny, you are a coward.
But that’s ok, I’m tired of battling wits with an unarmed person.
Comment by Sole_Earwitness — October 1, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
How am I a coward? I have continued to debate despite your obvious inability to do so. A coward would have run.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:00 pmKrazny, Can’t you read?
First of all, Rush DID apologize. He apologized on behalf of Harry Reid, John Murtha, Dick Durbin and John Kerry for their comments in the past when they attacked our troops. Those attacks are part of the Senate Record. Rush has nothing to apologize for and believe me, he won’t. The “phony soldiers†to whom he was referring were Jesse Macbeth and his ilk. Macbeth IS a phony soldier who was kicked out of the Army after 44 days in boot camp. Later he claimed to have earned a Purple Heart in Afghanistan and that he was an Army Ranger who participated in the killing of innocent civilians. He, and those like him, ARE “phony soldiersâ€. These are the individuals Rush was talking about. A simple review of the show’s transcript will confirm this. My question is, “When will Senator Harkin apologize to recovering addicts?â€
October 1st, 2007 at 7:02 pmIn reading through the posts on this board, one would have question whether there is any intelligent life forms left in the Democratic party. I think that we all know that there is still some in the Republican party.
Did any of you get to attend the DNC party in San Fran yesterday?
In going through the Democratic roster, I find that they have done everything in the book, that normal people would be in jail for. The majority of them are nothing more than petty little thieves, in my opinion!
Incidentally, the Republicans are only one step above the Dem’s.
Harkin is just a miniature Murtha, but with the same degree of intelligence, which is to say, (politely) the whole damned party is running a “few bricks shy of a full load.”
October 1st, 2007 at 7:02 pmSenator Reid:
I have just finished reading a transcript of your diatribe on the Senate floor today regarding Rush Limbaugh. I can assure you, Senator, that no one is fooled by your nonsensical rhetoric. The facts speak for themselves. Mr Limbaugh is not guilty of anything you claim. As always, he speaks the unadulterated truth, and for that, gets to be on the receiving end of such bilge that you proffer as statesmanlike debate.
When are you going to realize, sir, that the troops are not some political pawn for you and those of your ilk to use in the promotion of your misguided view of the direction Americans want this country to go in. The troops whom you claim now to defend, those very troops whom you have repeatedly called failures by your declaration that the war is lost, know exactly what you are trying to do with your smear of Mr. Limbaugh. Those very troops are fighting to protect your right to make a complete ass of yourself on the Senate floor. They know it. You know it. We all know it.
You are very much aware of the soldiers to whom Mr. Limbaugh was referring last week. Those individuals who made false claims as to thier service, were embraced by the left in this country as having a valid point of view for political purposes, then subsequently outed as the frauds they truly are.
There’s something you can surely relate to, sir. Fraud. I would respectfully suggest you finish out your term quietly so as not to do any more damage to this country. Then go back to Nevada and live out your life in the obscurity you deserve.
Robert Henry
Peabody, MA
716-***-****
I would urge you to call me, but I know you don’t have the stones.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:03 pmNotice how liberals act like defending oneself from any attack is its own new offense. “Shut up and take it like a man!”, is their standard demand. “Allow us to disparage and defame you, and if you dare to try and defend yourself, that only serves to prove our point that you are a horrible person! Admit it and apologize, or there’s hell to pay!”.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:05 pmOh, but not William Jefferson and his frozen $90k. Oh, but not Harry Reid and his corrupt real estate transactions. Oh, but not the Clintons and their too-many-to-mention abuses of people’s trust.
Oh no.
HARKIN FLASHBACK:
1984-1992 HARKIN claimed to have been a combat pilot flying F4`s and F8`s on combat air patrol and photo-reconnaissance support missions. Challenged by Sen.Goldwater Harkin backtracked and stated only over Cuba did he fly combat sorties.
Finally the liar and phony combat soldier Harkin admitted he had only served as a ferry pilot in Japan merely flying aircraft to be repaired to the Philippines.
Harkin the LIAR finally admitted he did not fly any combat missions or air patrol in Vietnam.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/gss/media/books.html
October 1st, 2007 at 7:06 pmLiberals -
“We’re for the military when we can use them to attack one of our poilitcal enemies. Otherwise we pretty much hate them.”
October 1st, 2007 at 7:06 pmFirst of all, Rush DID apologize. He apologized on behalf of Harry Reid, John Murtha, Dick Durbin and John Kerry for their comments in the past when they attacked our troops.
Comment by Tatum — October 1, 2007 @ 7:02 pm
Sorry didn’t realize that Rush was an appointed representative of Harry Reid, John Murtha, and and others. What a pathetic little specimen you are. I mean seriously. Try shutting off Rush sometime, clear your head. You might think a little straighter.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:06 pmBelow is a transcript of the inital story for which Rush defines, or sets as his definition, what a “phony soldier” is, Jesse MacBeth.
This is a story of who the left props up as heroes. They have their celebrities and one of them was Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth. Now, he was a “corporal.” I say in quotes. Twenty-three years old. What made Jesse MacBeth a hero to the anti-war crowd wasn’t his Purple Heart; it wasn’t his being affiliated with post-traumatic stress disorder from tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. No. What made Jesse MacBeth, Army Ranger, a hero to the left was his courage, in their view, off the battlefield, without regard to consequences. He told the world the abuses he had witnessed in Iraq, American soldiers killing unarmed civilians, hundreds of men, women, even children. In one gruesome account, translated into Arabic and spread widely across the Internet, Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth describes the horrors this way: “We would burn their bodies. We would hang their bodies from the rafters in the mosque.”
Now, recently, Jesse MacBeth, poster boy for the anti-war left, had his day in court. And you know what? He was sentenced to five months in jail and three years probation for falsifying a Department of Veterans Affairs claim and his Army discharge record. He was in the Army. Jesse MacBeth was in the Army, folks, briefly. Forty-four days before he washed out of boot camp. Jesse MacBeth isn’t an Army Ranger, never was. He isn’t a corporal, never was. He never won the Purple Heart, and he was never in combat to witness the horrors he claimed to have seen. You probably haven’t even heard about this. And, if you have, you haven’t heard much about it. This doesn’t fit the narrative and the template in the Drive-By Media and the Democrat Party as to who is a genuine war hero. Don’t look for any retractions, by the way. Not from the anti-war left, the anti-military Drive-By Media, or the Arabic websites that spread Jesse MacBeth’s lies about our troops, because the truth for the left is fiction that serves their purpose. They have to lie about such atrocities because they can’t find any that fit the template of the way they see the US military. In other words, for the American anti-war left, the greatest inconvenience they face is the truth.
A true “Phony Soldier”
October 1st, 2007 at 7:06 pmI ran across this blog accidentally and all I can say is we need better leadership. This demo - repub bullshit serves noone. don’t you all see that these 2 parties are running us down a road to death? This gets all of you upset to fight with each other and miss what’s really going on. It is us VS. the establishment. Everyone needs to calm down. Why is it that in real life liberals and consevitives can agree on almost anything. Democrats and republicans just fight tit for tat. This is our country and it takes all types to succeed. Democratic leadership doesn’t care about you and neither does the republicans. It’s time to overhaul with some new ideas. All this bickering and name calling just divides further.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:08 pmAh, revision of history - another favorite hobby of liberals.
After I nailed your ass to the wall on your intellectual dishonesty you just pretended that it didn’t happen and changed the subject by launching an ad hominem attack on Rush WRT his use of Viagra. Very mature.
You may possibly know when you are beaten (doubtful), but you definitely don’t know when to shut up and stop making yourself look like a fool.
You are a coward and a fool, and I’m no longer inclined to suffer your drivel. Good bye, and good luck on growing a functional brain. Please have yourself neutered at your earliest convenience.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:11 pmHas anyone actually read Limbaugh’s comment? Doubtful Sen. Harkin has. So much for diliberation (sp?).
October 1st, 2007 at 7:11 pmhttp://www.amazon.com/ exec/ obidos/ tg/ detail/ -/ 096670360X/ qid=1092847772/ sr=8-1
October 1st, 2007 at 7:13 pmTom Harkin and the rest of the cast of idiots do not have a clue to what Rush said. If they are so concerned about what is said about the troops, they should put themselfs in chek for what they are saying abot our brave men and women.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:15 pmHarry Reed is a card carrying communist, I don’t know why people have such a hard time accepting it. He isn’t alone in the congress, we are being over run with commies. If we don’t get them out of office, we are destined to fall from within.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:15 pmTom Harkin is the StalinistsakaDems attack dog !?
Candidate Harkin Stretches the Truth
Vietnam isn’t the only instance.
the Iowa lawmaker has found himself accused of misleading reporters about the troubles of his deaf brother. In addition, the budgetary mathematics he weaves into his basic stump speech have been challenged on network television. And allegations about Mr. Harkin’s truthfulness extend back well before the current campaign, back to his claims that he was a combat pilot in Vietnam.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005497
October 1st, 2007 at 7:16 pmComment by Sole_Earwitness — October 1, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
Delusions of adequacy I see, a common problem with ditto heads. Sorry man you didn’t “nail” me to anything. (How are those homo-erotic attractions coming?), and you clearly aren’t “done” with me. Sadly for you, I am heading home from my job. I am sure your rejoinder will be witty and intelligent.(doubtful), but you will be twisting in the wind as usual.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:17 pmTypical librals! You go by emotions and don’t read the transcripts of what was actually said! He was talking about ONE soldier Jesse MacBeth who falsified his military record and said there were soldiers killing civilians in Iraq. (No one in the lib media bothered to check their facts! Was this guy even in Iraq? Not that is would matter since liberals don’t think! ) ONE solder is what he was talking about — and the liberal media (and some people on this blog) take whatever they hear and don’t bother to get the facts. If you view is the only view then why can’t you back anything up with facts?
October 1st, 2007 at 7:18 pmThat is the first intelligent thing you’ve said.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:19 pmWas the investigative reporting done by Dan Blather?
October 1st, 2007 at 7:21 pmLol…politicians kill me with how they take everything out of context and reframe it into a slur. Has Senator Harkin actually HEARD what Rush said?
October 1st, 2007 at 7:24 pmDid you read comments 160 and 168 above. Surely they must be lies? That would make Rush’s comments well, taken out of context by my hero, Sen Harkin, and we all know he is next to saintlyness (he’s no crooked land-dealer like those NJ, NY, NV and IL senators).
So let’s stick to topic and talk about getting our troops home NOW. We all know that the right thing to do to help all those folks in Iraq is to pull our troops out, just like we did in Vietnam and, heck, only a couple of million died after that.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:28 pmoops - now comments 159 and 168. I guess the numbers change as comments get pulled because they conflict with the thought police.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:29 pmAmazing. This is my first time on this blog, and I discover none of the liberals and self described clear and free thinkers actually take the time to check what Limbaugh said. The groupthink atmosphere would stun George Orwell.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:32 pmHarkin’s statement is Sick Sick Sick. This is the problem with the Democratic Party, their msg is Hate Hate Hate.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:36 pmTo hell with Limbaugh.
He is no better than Reid or Harkin.
Just another bigot….an anti-Southern one at that.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:36 pm