Harkin: ‘Maybe Limbaugh was high on drugs again.’
Harkin: ‘Maybe Limbaugh was high on drugs again.’
Today on the Senate floor, Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) condemned Rush Limbaugh’s “phony soldiers” comment, saying that the radio host makes these “provocative things to make more money.” He then offered another possible explanation for Limbaugh’s “over-the-line” remarks:
Well, I don’t know. Maybe he was just high on his drugs again. I don’t know whether he was or not. If so, he ought to let us know. But that shouldn’t be an excuse.
(HT: TP commenter Candyce)
Transcript:
HARKIN: I’ll just close, Mr. President, by noting that in August, seven soldiers published an op-ed in the New York Times criticizing the current strategy in Iraq. Tragically, two of those soldiers were subsequently killed in action, making the ultimate sacrifice for their country.
I can only assume by Mr. Limbaugh’s definition that they too were “phony soldiers.” Now what’s most despicable is that Mr. Limbaugh says these provocative things to make more money. So he castigates our soldiers, this makes more news, more people tune in, he makes more money.
Well, I don’t know. Maybe he was just high on his drugs again. I don’t know whether he was or not. If so, he ought to let us know. But that shouldn’t be an excuse.
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As much as I dislike rightwing idiots, I dont think personal issues should be brought up to bash any stupid statement made by stupid people.
We could have the cleanest guy saying stuff about US soldiers or about bombing Iran and he still would be dead wrong.
October 1st, 2007 at 3:44 pmHe never quit being high on drugs and little boys. Slam dunk!!!
Buck Fush
October 1st, 2007 at 3:45 pmit’s…uhhh…not my viagra, I swear!! i was, err..holding it for…uhhh, a friend.
October 1st, 2007 at 3:47 pmWill this be what gets Rush off of Armed Forces Radio? They don’t have much of a choice as it is, but we can surely do better.
October 1st, 2007 at 3:49 pmHello congress, there’s a war or two going on. Can we please focus on things that actually matter!
October 1st, 2007 at 3:53 pmHow about showing this type of balls when talking about Cheney, Bush, and the Republican Senators? Call out my Senator Lugar. I have called his office several times but who am I? Nobody. Call him and the others out on the floor of the Senate. They should be ashamed of how they have acted these past 7 years.
October 1st, 2007 at 3:54 pmAs Rush Limbaugh just said on his radio program, quit hiding behind the Senate microphone and come on to his show, and have it out like a real man.
You Dems are cowards, and wouldn’t dare go head to head with Rush, because he would slaughter you. You are right to fear him.
October 1st, 2007 at 3:56 pmWRONG
It was John Soltz that called out Limpballs to have him on his show last week. Lush is late to the party. He will say on his program that nobody would come and you will believe it.
And I would take Lush any day.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:00 pmZING! I actually think Harkin was being nice to Limbaugh… the truth is, it’s not drugs, Rush is just a d**k…
October 1st, 2007 at 4:01 pmThis IS about the war. Chicken hawks pushing it and patriots trying bring our men home.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:01 pmRepublicans divide Americans for $$$.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:01 pm“As Rush Limbaugh just said on his radio program, quit hiding behind the Senate microphone and come on to his show, and have it out like a real man.”
or maybe rush should “man up” and run for senate.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:02 pmI think I’m going to go around town b!tchslapping any Republican I see and call it “enchanced manhood challenges”.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:03 pmI disagree with the conclusion. I dont think Rush intended to denigrate any soldier.
Comment by Vendetta — October 1, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
Do you believe MoveOn meant to?
October 1st, 2007 at 4:04 pmpull Rush from Armed Forces Radio, the way they did Air America…
October 1st, 2007 at 4:05 pmHarkin:”We like to know what was he smoking…so we know how to draft the bill…”!!
October 1st, 2007 at 4:07 pm“That would be foolish of him. He makes more money and has more influence right where he is.”
plus, he’d lose.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:07 pmI agree that the Senate and the House are wasting a lot of time on matters concerning MoveOn and now Limbaugh, Columbia University, et al.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:13 pmBut these are the levels to which the news and the public attention has stooped.
All that being said, I regret that time which should be spent in dealing with really important legislation, the war in Iraq and Bush&Co lies, secrecy and felonious activities is being spent on this.
However, the Repugs are still controlling the rules of play, and taking the higher ground doesn’t succeed in this adversarial climate.
It’s fair to fight back. You have to get the attention of the bullies.
I don’t know – this seems like a sideshow. Tit for tat. The republicans were stupid to waste their time and our money on condemning the MoveOn ad and the Dems are stupid for wasting their time and our money on this. Let’s get on with ending this war, not throwing a tantrum every time someone on the other side of the argument throws an insult.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:15 pmComment by familyman — October 1, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
While I support your ideals, your naive idealism is the reason why the Republicans can call the Dems unpatriotic every time the Dems attempt to do something to end the war.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:22 pmSo how about bringing those troops home? Or I guess it’s more important to bash right wing nut jobs. Because they are so rare.
~Sean
October 1st, 2007 at 4:23 pmWhat can I say – I’m a dreamer.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:23 pmOur worthless Democrats…
I am registered Democratic, but my party is really disgusting me. It really seems as though they’re more interested in having issues and beating the Republicans than anything else. That’s why they won’t end the war. They want the issue in 2008. “Why do anything that might change the public’s mood when it is so heavily in their favor?” is the attitude. It doesn’t seem like “because you can save thousands of lives” is a good enough answer. It seems like if there are 99 Dems and one Republican senator in the Senate (who decides to put a block on whatever bill Dems want to pass), the Democrats will throw up their hands and do nothing and insist that we’ve just got to beat that one guy in the next election to get anything done.
And now this. Democrats focus all the public’s attention into a “gotcha” of the Republicans for denouncing MoveOn and now having to denounce Rush or look like hypocrites. Guess what, we already know Republicans are hypocrites. Sadly, now we know that you are, too. You could have brought an end to the Iraq War like you said you would, but instead you choose to point out hypocritical Republicans.
Oh, and one more thing. It’s called free speech. Don’t denounce people for exercising that right.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:24 pmI like Harkin (and really dislike Limbaugh) but this is just wrong. It’s a very cheap shot and it leaves us on the Left open to ridicule for always paying lip service to compassion and understanding of human foibles while ridiculing the afflicted.
Let’s face it, folks, as odious as Limbaugh is, he *is* afflicted by his addictive nature. We can’t go around ridiculing him for it.
jb
October 1st, 2007 at 4:28 pmOur troops will be there for decades. Get a grip?
Comment by Michael — October 1, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
Then you better sign up Michael, they need you. Don’t forget to get the kids involved too. They would have fun over in Iraq. 115+ daily, getting shot at, and blown up. I mean if it is so urgent, and important, then it is your patriotic duty to serve, and make sure you family serves as well. Otherwise the Islamofacsists win.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:29 pm“Then you better sign up Michael”
if his ‘ardent support’ of the military is anything like rush’s, it stops at a certain point just short of actually signing up.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:34 pmHigh on Drugs Nothing! Limbaugh is a Certified Moron.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:36 pmboreas: I disagree. His dependency is “his problem”, that’s true – but when he uses it to make excuses for his behavior which is “public” then he invites the criticism. He deserves all the criticism for both his dependency on drugs as well as his mouth. Since they are connected, they cannot be separated and dealt with that way. He is the sum total of ALL of his parts, as we all are. You can’t begin to sort and cull and then castigate others for believing that he’s unable or unwilling to kick the habit and uses it to excuse his disgusting behavior. Life just doesn’t work that way.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:38 pmBoreas: P.S. No one but Rush is putting those addictive drugs down his throat! He owns both – the addiction and the behavior. Plenty of people have overcome their addictions because they “wanted to”.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:40 pmWhat can I say – I’m a dreamer.
Comment by familyman — October 1, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
but you’re not the only one. . . .
Damn it, now that song is in my head.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:43 pmI would like Harkin to quote exactly where he called an active or retired soldiers or soldiers who actually were in Iraq or Afghanistan phony. He was referring to those “phony soldiers” that make up things like Jesse Macbeth, a former hero to the left. Macbeth claimed to be a an Army Ranger and alleged US military was routinely murdering Iraqi civilians. He claimed to kill 200 people himself, many at close range, including some as the prayed in mosque.
I am sure the enemy ate that up for their agenda toward United States efforts in Iraq. Another example of the left willing to do anything, yet still do nothing at all.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:55 pmYou Dems are cowards, and wouldn’t dare go head to head with Rush, because he would slaughter you. You are right to fear him.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Thanks for the laugh Jason. I needed that. The thought that Rush Limbaugh could slaughter any Democratic opponent gave me a good laugh. Hell, I could out debate Rush. No one fears him, it’s just that no one thinks that he is worth the time of day.
How about this, once one of the Rethugs has a public debate with moveon.org about their Betrayus ad, then we’ll talk to you about having one of our Democrats go on Rush’s show. My bet is that there isn’t a Republican out there who would dare go face to face with moveon.org.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:55 pm“My bet is that there isn’t a Republican out there who would dare go face to face with moveon.org.”
keep in mind that repubs will only do a debate if there are no minorities involved.
October 1st, 2007 at 4:59 pmHe was referring to those “phony soldiers†that make up things like Jesse Macbeth, a former hero to the left.
Comment by ANeccessaryEvil
Sorry Right Wing Loon ANeccessaryEvil. That excuse has been thoroughly debunked. Limbaugh didn’t mention Jessie Macbeth until long after he had already called our soldiers “phony soldiers”.
Besides, if that is the case, then why did Rush apologize?
October 1st, 2007 at 5:05 pmVendetta, the US is highly sensitive when it comes to its soldiers. I would say that there is people who is doing its best out there and people who is deranged, soldiers are not different from this.
Soldiers that thought the whole invasion was wrong, that delivering democracy with guns and weapons, that suspected about their true mission when the Oil Ministry was the most important building in Baghdad to be seized, are correct and are good, intelligent people.
Soldiers that raped women and shot point blank kids in Qana, are despicable as any tyrant.
I hold special regards for soldiers as much as I hold special regards for cooks or gardeners.
So the MoveOn issue as the Rush issue is almost irrelevant for me while soldiers are being shot and civilians still bombed.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:05 pm“I can only assume by Mr. Limbaugh’s definition that they too were “phony soldiers.â€
Yet another politician making uninformed comments based on other political hacks trying to defend MoveOn.org.
Comment by Tracy1
Right Wing Loon Tracy1 thinks that calling Limbaugh on his insult to our troops is defending moveon.org. S/he makes a typical Rethug leap in coming to that conclusion. But then s/he has to do something to deflect attention from the fact that her hero Rush opened his big fat prejudiced evil mouth one time to many and got caught with his pants down. Too bad so sad Right Wing Loon. Get over it.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:09 pmDrudge visitors: just read the comments, you’ll see what this movement is all about.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:10 pmYou people are crazy!
Comment by Billy Hill
No Right Wing Loon Billy Hill, you are delusional. Rush said absolutely nothing about ABC news or about Jesse Macbeth during the conversation he was having with the so-called “soldier”. They were both talking about a previous caller who was supporting soldiers speaking out against the War in Iraq. No matter how many times you want to try to twist what Rush did into something that suits your purpose, you can’t argue with what he really said, not want you want us to think he said. I have read the transcript of his show and it didn’t happen like you would like to think it happened.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:12 pmClearly this is an unbalanced individual.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
I agree.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:18 pmTP should ban Tracy for writing threats against another commenter.
people like billy hill are crazy. Look at how you have to parse and select Rush’s statements to defend him! Your minor god Rush, screwed up big time, and it looks like it is biting him in the ass.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:19 pmAnyone notice how Harkin wants to say “it’s no excuse” for Limbaugh to be on drugs and (allegedly) say things he disagrees with, but just last week Harkin wanted a retiring General to distance himself from comments which said that there’s no place for adultery in the Armed Forces?
Harkin is now not only unreliable, he’s laughable. We should e-mail Harkin and tell him that it’s no excuse to be a U.S. Senator and to act the way he is acting purely for political gain.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:21 pmYou can get the facts with less energy than it takes to rant against Bush or make ad hominem attacks against Rush.
All the transcripts are available on RushLimbaugh.com. Probably too difficult to take the time to read the facts and make an honest assessment. Much easier to whine and emote. Bush hating fanaticism at it’s best. Such a miserable bunch. Completely overcome with profound, irrational hatred.
Very amusing to watch.
Let the crackup continue!
October 1st, 2007 at 5:28 pmLet the crackup continue!
Comment by laughing_all_the way
Yeah, tell us when youve found Bin Laden, buddy.
I bet that you were laughing all the way on 9/11.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:32 pmMuch easier to whine and emote. Bush hating fanaticism at it’s best. Such a miserable bunch. Completely overcome with profound, irrational hatred.
Comment by laughing_all_the way — October 1, 2007 @
Change Bush hating to Bush loving, and it sounds exactly like the current crop of right wingers. Though Bush worshiping might be more accurate.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:33 pmIf you like Limbaugh or not is a moot point here. The fact is Senator Harry Reid is using Mcarthy-like attacks on a private citizen and denying a person their first amendment rights. You can disagree with a person, but to use the power of the United States Senate on the senate floor to do so is going way to far.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:36 pmThe fact is that Limbaugh never said the things the way that Senator Reid and others have said that he did. Mr. Limbaugh was talking about an individual who claimed to have been in the war and killed people in the war, but was found out he actually washed out of basic training and never did the things he claimed he did and that other soldiers did with him. He was talking about people like that.
Senator Reid, can you say ethics violation? When the facts some out that he claimed a private citizen said something he did not say and attempted to deny a person their first amendment rights I doubt if he will remain the majority leader, and maybe not even a senator, much longer. To deny someones constitutional right is a serious offense.
It is amazing how obsessed the left is with Rush!!! The truth really does hurt, that is why they are so focused and reactionary to every little thing he says.
Just a reflection of how great a job he is doing to promote his ideas.
Keep up the good work Rush! We all know the truth. On the left, and the right. The fascist lefties are going to keep trying silence you!
Looking forward to this electoral season, it is going to be one heck of a roller coaster ride!
Viva RUSH!
October 1st, 2007 at 5:38 pmWas Harkin high on drugs when he married that ugly man he calls his wife?
October 1st, 2007 at 5:39 pmRush challenged Homosexual Harry to come on his show and repeat his lies. We all know Homosexual Harry lacks the cojones for that.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:41 pmTo Billbobaggins and others …
You are wrong…again. Rush had a morning update on September 25th, a day before the caller that everyone is now so upset about.
The update is about Jesse Macbeth, the supposed Army Ranger corporal who told of the abuses by American troops, killing unarmed civilians — hundreds of men, women, and even children. In one gruesome account, translated into Arabic and spread widely across the Internet, MacBeth describes the horrors this way: “We would burn their bodies… hang their bodies from the rafters in the mosque.”
The trouble was this guy a phony. He lasted 44 days in the Army, never mde it out of boot camp, never was a Ranger, never was a corporal, never went to Iraq and recently was sentenced to 5 months in jail for falsifing his military record.
The Rush Limbaugh update discussed how the anti war movement uses these phone soldiers with phony stories to support allegations against the military. Then when the truth is known, no one every corrects the record or apologizes to the troops for the slander.
That was the phone soldier story – that was what Limbaugh was referring to. You clearly have not read the transcript.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:45 pmIronic thing is that Harkin is just the kind of “phony soldier” that Limbaugh was talking about…those that exaggerate or falsify their service history.
“In 1979, Mr. Harkin, then a congressman, participated in a round-table discussion arranged by the Congressional Vietnam Veterans’ Caucus. ‘I spent five years as a Navy pilot, starting in November of 1962,’ Mr. Harkin said at that meeting, in words that were later quoted in a book, Changing of the Guard, by Washington Post political writer David Broder. ‘One year was in Vietnam. I was flying F-4s and F-8s on combat air patrols and photo-reconnaissance support missions. I did no bombing.’
“That clearly is not an accurate picture of his Navy service. . . . Mr. Harkin’s Navy record shows his only decoration is the National Defense Service Medal, awarded to everyone on active service during those years. He did not receive either the Vietnam Service medal or the Vietnam Campaign medal, the decorations given to everyone who served in the Southeast Asia theater.”
October 1st, 2007 at 5:45 pmThe fascist lefties
Comment by laughing_all_the way
Folks, I think all has been said.
Maybe Mussolini and its Fascio were really from the left and it went unnoticed… mmmm…
October 1st, 2007 at 5:45 pmComment by Juan C
Isn’t that rich.
Awe, now play nice in the sandbox tough guy. No need for more name calling “buddy”
Focus your rage on Bush and Rush… let it alllll out. We don’t want you hurting yourself.
But then, we all know Bush orchestrated 9/11 right? Why worry about Bin Laden?
What a tool.
Heh, heh… Good times.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:46 pmNice try liberals!
Let the troops decide if Rush was dishonoring them.
Another fine example of the Libs taking something out of contest and trashing them.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:47 pmLOL Rush stepped in it, and the rightards are out trying to make him sound like a human. Sorry guys, it doesn’t appear to be working. Perhaps you should scream louder. Rush called soldiers phonys, if they didn’t support the Iraq. Time to go back to reading comprehension 101.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:49 pmBut then, we all know Bush orchestrated 9/11 right? Why worry about Bin Laden?
Comment by laughing_all_the way
Maybe we should ask the FBI why OBL isnt wanted for 9/11.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:49 pmTP, Tracy1 should be banned.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:51 pmNow comes Tom Harkin. On Monday the Iowa Senator lashed out at Dick Cheney, claiming the Vice President had no right to criticize Mr. Kerry’s policies for the war on terror because Mr. Cheney had a deferment back then: “When I hear this coming from Dick Cheney, who was a coward, who would not serve during the Vietnam War, it makes my blood boil.”
“Coward”? Such a comment would take chutzpah coming from anyone. But Senator Harkin is a proven fabricator when it comes to his own Vietnam-era record, as shown during his own failed 1992 Presidential bid. Consider this excerpt from a Wall Street Journal news story by James M. Perry from December 26, 1991:
“In 1979, Mr. Harkin, then a congressman, participated in a round-table discussion arranged by the Congressional Vietnam Veterans’ Caucus. ‘I spent five years as a Navy pilot, starting in November of 1962,’ Mr. Harkin said at that meeting, in words that were later quoted in a book, Changing of the Guard, by Washington Post political writer David Broder. ‘One year was in Vietnam. I was flying F-4s and F-8s on combat air patrols and photo-reconnaissance support missions. I did no bombing.’
“That clearly is not an accurate picture of his Navy service. . . . Mr. Harkin’s Navy record shows his only decoration is the National Defense Service Medal, awarded to everyone on active service during those years. He did not receive either the Vietnam Service medal or the Vietnam Campaign medal, the decorations given to everyone who served in the Southeast Asia theater.”
It turned out Mr. Harkin had not seen combat and was stationed in Japan.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:51 pmgmood:
Good job. I had forgotton about Homosexual Harkin’s lies about his military service.
This seems to be a phenomenon amonst the left. Dan Rather used to claim that he was a former Marine. However, Rather washed out during boot camp and, thus, never earned the title “Marine.”
Let’s also keep in mind that the pussy Podesta was Bill Clinton’s chief of staff. Unlike Rush Limbaugh and his support for the military, the draft-dodger Clinton said he loathed the military.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:52 pmBTW, Bush can hardly orchestrate his English…so… I think thats out of the question.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:52 pmWOW!!!!! it is utterly scary and down right appalling to listen to some of the childish comments on here. Please, by all means don’t bother to even do some of your own research to understand the true story and unfolding of events. 1) Sickening to see our so-called senators wasting our time and money over a trivial matter over a 3 minute conversation just because they need something to stand on (they’re drowning in their own vomit) 2) Since when did the liberal movement ever support the troops, never!!!!all the while paying for a full page ad “defaming” an actual individual and his integrity and character, which by the sounds of it most of you individuals on this post seem to lack. 3) Liberals can never be trusted to run government, period!!!!! how can anyone take you seriously with all the name bashing going on in here. Stop Whining so damned much about the war(s). Its inevitable, we as a country voted for it, humanity requires it, history supports it, utopia’s don’t exist so stop trying to create one. Extreme Islam needs an attitude adjustment and we’re here to do just that. Quit crying about our soldiers dying for whatever cause you may think they’re dying for. They’re professional, they made the choice and are living with it day to day and doing it well.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:54 pmThe Homosexual Harkin, until he figured out that the Marines and soldiers would become angry, tried to get Limbaugh taken off of Armed Forces Radio.
Note that there has been no outcry from members of the military to have Limbaugh removed from their radio station. They know the sissies in the Democrat Party are lying about what Limbaugh said. They’re not as gullible as these idiots who are spoonfed lies from Think Progress and Media Matters.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:57 pmHarkin is the real phony. If you will correctly remember, he tried for years to pass himself off as a combat aviator. He got away with it for years but finally it was dicovered he was a ferry pilot stateside. He got a few strings pulled and he got a cush duty here in the states but tried to pass himself off as a something else. Most of you people who hate Rush no deep down where your courage should reside that he is almost always accurate and right about most everything. He did show courage when he got himself into rehab and told it like it was on the air for all to hear.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:58 pmkeithn, propaganda happy hour is in about 2 hours. Catch up.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:59 pmbtw, go to FBI.gov and look at the statistics of violent crime here in America…we kill ourselves more each day in this country, than whatever “war statistics” you may read about in the news. Put your perspectives in place. No its not justification for 1 life lost in Iraq or Afghanistan, but they’re doing a job while we just kill each other here everyday for stupid things like road rage, and getting picked on at school. Your so concerned about pulling out of Iraq, how about all the deaths related to just trying to get a higher education in this country.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:03 pmAll the wingnuts are pouring in from their first line of attack- Drudge (the eggman). Get the disinfectant ready.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:03 pmMost of you people who hate Rush no deep down where your courage should reside that he is almost always accurate and right about most everything. He did show courage when he got himself into rehab and told it like it was on the air for all to hear.
Comment by FactChecker16 — October 1, 2007 @
Oh man that line had me rolling. The best so far. Where are the rest of the ditto heads to explain what “Rush Really Meant”
October 1st, 2007 at 6:04 pmWikipedia notes the following about Homosexual Harkin’s lies about his military service: “References to this controversy were deleted from Wikipedia by staffers from Harkin’s senate office”
Isn’t it interesting how liberals such as Harkin lie about others and then try to hide the truth about themselves? It’s a shame he didn’t go flying with Wellstone.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:04 pmOuch. That hurt Rush’s feelings. Now he’ll need to self-medicate.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:05 pmIt would be funny, if it wasn’t so sad, to see all you liberals getting all worked up over an issue you don’t have the facts right. You’re only making fools of yourselves if you keep depending on Media Matters and MoveOn.org for your information. They don’t care about accuracy. They only care about creating misinformation that they use to get YOU to send them checks. And you liberals are sadly dumb enough to fall for it.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:06 pmlol..sorry juan, i guess the my thread went off on a tangent…
October 1st, 2007 at 6:06 pmSen. Harkless, just like the rest of the libs/lefitists, and the Demoncratic losers, know Rush was referring to your hero, Jesse Macbeth. Jesse was a complete fraud in the grand tradition of Demoncratic support of our troops, thus his hero status in your eyes. As the lowlifes you are, I am amazed any of you have the audacity to suggest that Rush be removed from his armed services broadcasts. If you weren’t so much like the Sandanistas, I would suggest polling the troops, but your kind was never much for letting others make their own choices. The undeniable loathing of the military by the Demoncrats and their leftists allies (you) makes the indigniation charade too comical.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:06 pmLimbaugh and O’Reilly exhibit more narcissistic traits than anybody I’ve ever observed. Boderline pathogical, it seems, to the point that the truth really doesn’t matter to them. It is a waste of time to debate their truthfulness. It just doesn’t matter. I’m independent, but have been accused of being a liberal by some right wing conservatives. That’s the truth.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:07 pmI’d rather be a right wing nutjob than a liberal with no nuts and no job!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:10 pmI love when war apologists and Bush supporters talk about misinformation and tools.
Maybe they didnt get the memo that there were no WMDs in Iraq.
Played like fine cajun banjos.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:12 pmSen. Harkless, just like the rest of the libs/lefitists, and the Demoncratic losers, know Rush was referring to your hero, Jesse Macbeth. Jesse was a complete fraud in the grand tradition of Demoncratic support of our troops, thus his hero status in your eyes. As the lowlifes you are, I am amazed any of you have the audacity to suggest that Rush be removed from his armed services broadcasts. If you weren’t so much like the Sandanistas, I would suggest polling the troops, but your kind was never much for letting others make their own choices. The undeniable loathing of the military by the Demoncrats and their leftists allies (you) makes the indignation charade too comical.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:14 pmThis thread must have gotten linked by the drudge report or something given the large number of whackos showing up to defend Rush. Funny thing is, I had never heard of the Jesse MacBeth guy until all this started. I guess he wasn’t much of a hero to the left after all. Rush on the other hand is a minor god to the right. A sad, sad state of affairs.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:14 pmDemocrats – Harkin and Reid have made you look verrrrrrrrrrrrrry foolish. This is made all the more sad after reading above that Harkin is, himself — a phony soldier in the same vein as Macbeth.
I’m thinking most of you are wishing you could revoke your post now that you know that Rush was, again — right.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:16 pmSoooooo predictable. As usual, in leiu of an actual statement relative to the issue at hand, the liberals resort to personal attacks and name calling. That’s why left wing talk radio doesn’t work. Once you get past “Bush Sucks,” they really don’t have much to contribute. While we’re on the subject of demoralizing the troops, what effect do you think it has on our fighting men and women when people like Harry Reid give up and say the war is lost, no reason for you to be there anymore? I can tell you one thing….Rush will not let your hypocrisy go unchallenged. MEGA DITTOS and God bless our troops!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:17 pmThe “Best Comment On This Website” award goes to:
ROADKING – for his nutjob response.
signed — Think Progress staff.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:19 pmIt’s hilarious that any lib would even TRY to act like they support the troops more than Limbaugh. Any of you libs on this thread been over to Iraq to show your support like Rush has?
If the liberals are piling on Rush, he must really being doing a lot of things right. Attacking Limbaugh (and being intellectually dishonest) for this statement proves liberals are really grasping at straws in an effort to take him down.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:19 pmHaving perused every comment in this thread, one thing is obvious: none of the commenters actually heard the referenced exchange between Rush and the caller at the time it happened. I’m sure that lots of you heard the soundbite after the fact, but by then your opinions had already been formed by whoever was spoonfeeding you that day.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:19 pmI was listening to Rush that day and heard it all as it happened, including the previous caller who is referenced in the exchange. When Rush spoke the words “phony soldiers” I immediately knew he meant Macbeth, Beauchamp, and their ilk. It was unmistakable.
One other thing. When Rush apologised, he was apologising to the armed forces for Reid and Co’s slander, not his own. Rush has not said anything that he needs to apologize for.
“Then you better sign up Michaelâ€
if his ‘ardent support’ of the military is anything like rush’s, it stops at a certain point just short of actually signing up.
Comment by cha cha cha — October 1, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
I am in the military, I have made it a career that is progressing into its 22nd year. Two of my sons are in the military. ALL THREE OF US have been in both wars over the last 24 months. I just returned from a one year assignment in Balad.
My oldest is a MARINE Captain, my second oldest is a PVT in the Army.
ALL THREE OF US know that we need to be there. I am often amazed by some people who have never wore the uniform believe themselves to be experts in what we need and our desires.
More than 80 percent of the military members that I have talked to believe that we’re on the right course NOW. I will be the first to say that mistakes were made. But if you know war, there are always mistakes made. The thing to remember is to learn from them. We were losing WWII for two years until we got our heads out of our ***. Its a good thing that some of you were not around then.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:19 pmWhat a bunch of losers, having to twist words to come up with blanks to fire at Rush. He runs circles around all those clown democrats. And if he’s doing in while on drugs then that’s just more insulting to the dem’s intelligence level. Go read the transcript of what was really said, and see what a farce it is. Murtha, Carry, and the whole bunch should be apologizing to him and the whole country for such weak actions. The same ones who voted to cut of funding for our troops show who really lacks patriotism, and where’s they’re long awaited apology?? we won’t be holding our breath for that..ha. But that’s ok, Rush did apologize to the troops for the Dems and their “in the pocket” mainstream media.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:21 pmI LOVE IT, 11% APPROVAL AND SINKING !
NOW THEY DEFEND PHONY SOLDIERS BY ATTACKING THOSE
WHO ATTACK PHONY SOLDIERS !!!
A-HA-HAAAAAA IT JUST GETS BETTER EVERYDAY !!!
LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOL
October 1st, 2007 at 6:22 pmWhy all the name calling? This just divides the country. I disagree with many of what Rush says, but I don’t lower myself to the religious right levels, and call him names. Name calling is for childeren. That aside, has anyone actually listened to any proof that limbaugh said what he did. On his show, he claims that we are lying. Let’s not assume that he is guilty simply becaus ewe dislike him. Is that the America we want? Why is congress wasting time addressing this? That is not what I voted for. I want change, not political sound bites. Shame on them.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:23 pmNavy Senior Chief – Thanks to you and your family for your service.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:24 pmThis just goes to show how uninformed you are. Knowing the background info on Macbeth et al is essential to understanding the context of Rush’s remarks. But don’t let that stop you.
One good thing you can say for ignorance – it causes some interesting arguments.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:24 pmeloquently put Lakota, thats it, I’ve rarely ever heard of anything substantial from liberal spew, other than namecalling. case in point, 911truth.org, etc… there is a significant amount of minds out there that actually believe that 911 was a conspiracy of the government and that some of the planes didn’t even crash, they were missiles, we planted explosives in the towers!!! disturbing…simply disturbing…
October 1st, 2007 at 6:25 pm“Limbaugh and O’Reilly exhibit more narcissistic traits than anybody I’ve ever observed”
Comment by Koko Loco — October 1, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
Don’t know about O’Reilly, but Limbaugh does it as a joke, knowing it drives you libs crazy.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:29 pmMan, you dems. are really mentally challenged.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:30 pmRight on, Sen. Harkin. Limbaugh told Reid to come to his show to face him with his charges. Reid should go on Limbaugh’s show after Rush has Jon Soltz from VoteVets on the show.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:31 pmOne good thing you can say for ignorance – it causes some interesting arguments.
Comment by Sole_Earwitness — October 1, 2007 @ 6:24 pm
I was pointing out, that MacBeth’s false story was not as highly spread around as you claim. You can call me ignorant, that is fine, but I had never heard of the guy until this blew up into Rush’s face.
A little link for you to peruse: http://armyofdude.blogspot.com/2007/09/real-deal.html
October 1st, 2007 at 6:34 pmThese right-wing hate mongers are no better than Father Coughlin, and do this country a terrible disservice by lying to their dim bulb followers to divide this country into patriots — those who agree with them — and traitors. They have no understanding of democracy, instead resorting to name calling rather than actually debating issues. I’d love to debate a Rush Limbaugh or Hannity or any of them, although it would be unfair. I’d be armed with facts while they would have to resort to half-truths and name calling. As Jon Stewart pointed out, “Reality has a liberal bias.”
October 1st, 2007 at 6:34 pmSenior Chief, thank you for you and your family’s service!!!!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:37 pmSo, now that you know about Macbeth, now that you understand the true context of Rush’s remark, do you have the intellectual honesty to admit you were wrong?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:38 pmwow, Jon Stewart is a comedian and is very funny, just like Rush Limbaugh. but to say that Rush and Hannity spew half-truths is quite unfair yourself. Can you point out any examples?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:40 pmadmit you were wrong?
Comment by Sole_Earwitness — October 1, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
Rush referred to any soldier who doesn’t support the Iraq war as phony. So no I am not wrong. Referencing something he said from two days previous is well phony on his part, and a sad attempt to deflect his statements.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:41 pmRightman says get it right. He never talked about those 7 soldiers.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:42 pmGo to his website and see and hear the….TRUTH!. If you dare. Or lets just play around with the media that don’t matter again.
With 1/2 my brain tied behind my back the question is, do you libs listen to the news reports? Kerry made a fool of his self while trying to run for president saying, ‘if you don’t go to college you will end up in Iraq’ http://www.cafepress.com/aaronscase/2035570. Gore made an idiot of his self by trying to claim the internet was his invetion. Now, Harkin makes a jerk of his self trying to lambaste Limbaugh over a out of context ‘phony solder’ statement. Please Scotty, beam me up!!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:42 pmWould it surprise anyone of you angry, bitter people that Limbaugh did not make the remarks which have been attributed to him?? Would it surprise you headline whores to find out that you have been duped AGAIN because you failed to actually investigate something before jumping on the tired old bandwagon?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:43 pmI thought not.
What an ugly, hateful bunch of ignoramus punks. It’s very sad.
KRAZNY — please supply a reference to this allegation.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:43 pmDavidknows :
” They have no understanding of democracy…”
BUH-WAH-HA-HAAAA
TALK ABOUT DIM BULBS. LAST TIME WE LOOKED, THE USA
WAS A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC !
LOLOLOLOOLOLOL
HARKIN THE COMBAT VETERAN WHO FLEW OVER NORTH VIETNAM ! ?
A-HA-HAAAA !!!!!!!!
YEAHHH RIIIGGGHHTT !!!!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:44 pmtoday its rush yesterday it was billo they never make mistakes and everyone but them should be held accountable
October 1st, 2007 at 6:45 pmKrazny, He said She said…you seem to be forgetting that none of the military is calling for his appology, in fact, quite support him in his support of the troops. Hes a radio talk host. Seriously, why would our elected officials waste tax payers dollars trying to defame him when there are other more important matters at hand. Like actually supporting our troops and the success of planting a seed of freedom and democracy in that god-forsaken place called the middle east.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:45 pmIf this was 1942 the Democrats would be tried for treason. The have aided and encouraged our enemy with their speech. Slandering our troops and their commanders at every oppurtunity. The truth does not matter to these people and the effect their words have on our troops doesn’t either. They give hope to our enemy that if they just kill a few more Americans we will turn tail and run. Imagine the effect on our enemy if we were united and said “We will not leave until we achieve victory. No matter what the cost.” Democrat leaders are despicable. Now they attack a private citizen, knowing full well that they are spreading lies. There has been no greater supporter of our troops than Rush Limbaugh and they know it. All this from the party that has already declared our troops defeated; that has compared out troops to Nazis, accused them of torture; from a party that is quick to belive the very worst instead of seeing the very best in our troops ie Haditha; a party that insults a four star general leading our troops in battle, HEY, HE IS ONE OF THE TROOPS!! that did not stop you from calling him a liar. You disgust me. Rush is more of a patriot than any of the Democrat leaders will ever know how to be. Rush beat his addiction to painkillers to bad the democrats can’t show the same amount of strength and beat their addiction to deafeat in Iraq
October 1st, 2007 at 6:46 pmDid any of you self described “progressives” actually hear what was said? Or did you take the bait your friends at Media Matters threw out?
Do your homework before you post comments and look like bigger fools each and every day.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:46 pmI thought not.
Ok, everybody! You are no longer allowed to reference anything you said 2 days ago, it confuses liberals. Please keep all remarks current enough for those with short memories/attention spans to keep up with.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:47 pmOtherwise, this is what happens.
Is this for REAL? I can’t believe a senator would stoop so low. That’s over the line. How ignorant. Just like a Democrat to try to throw a red herring. Stick to the point .. RUSH IS RIGHT (even when he was high he was better than most liberals! and at least he took responsibility for his problem and appears to have solved it)
October 1st, 2007 at 6:47 pmWOULD YOU PEOPLE JUST GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. RUSH COMMENTED ON THE “PHONY SOLDIERS” JUST AS ABC DID. IN FACT, ABC REPORTED ON THE SAME PHONY SOLDIER – FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON’T DO YOUR HOMEWORK, THAT MEANS THIS SOLDIER NEVER SERVED IN IRAQ AND MADE UP HIS STORIES.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:47 pmIT IS HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT YOU PEOPLE VOTE!
TO DRAW CONCLUSIONS WITHOUT FINDING OUT THE FACTS – IN OTHER WORDS – TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE TOLD WITHOUT ASKING QUESTIONS IS VERY DISTURBING.
YOU HAVE A BRAIN – USE IT TO CHECK OUT THE FACTS!
DD
What does Jackie and Dunlap have to say about this brew-haha!?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:48 pmAs Jon Stewart pointed out, “Reality has a liberal bias.â€
Comment by Davidknows — October 1, 2007 @ 6:34 pm
You mean Jon Stewart the world renown scholar?
Understanding Democracy? Question – Did our founding fathers attend church services in the Capitol Building and other federal buildings? Did our founding fathers ever determine to setup a welfare state? Were our founding fathers for or against high taxes (even the rich)? And so forth. I’m talking about the guys who wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. The documents that have propelled this country into being the greatest of all time.
If you’re against religion in government and schools, if you think it’s ok to force people by threat of imprisonment (IRS) to give money to charities they don’t agree with (welfare and entitlements) if you’re for high taxes on anyone, then YOU have no clue about the original meaning of Democracy.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:49 pmeverything outside of a “headline” confuses liberals…
October 1st, 2007 at 6:49 pmThe rights godly voice from above slipped in a pile of manure and now they must defend him no matter what. I wonder what they said to the bottle of viagria he had on him after his return from a Jamacian vacation. I am sure it was for medical purposes. Link to him referring to soldiers as phonys.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709270010
October 1st, 2007 at 6:50 pmI wish one member of the party of appeasement would make a valid point rather than make a personal attack on Rush. The fact is Sen. Reid and all of you know what the truth is about what was said but don’t have an ouce of integrity to admit it. You get so angry and emotional that you will lie and deceive your way into the power you love so much. No morals, no ethics and no class describes each of you perfectly. Atleast Rush has some balls.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:50 pmHelloooooooooooooo. You guys forgot….. It’s the charge that counts not the substance. Dee Dee Dee!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:50 pmComment by keithn — October 1, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
Why did the republicans insist on wasting time and taxpayer money on the Move.org ad, or is that different?
October 1st, 2007 at 6:51 pmFirst of all, Rush DID apologize. He apologized on behalf of Harry Reid, John Murtha, Dick Durbin and John Kerry for their comments in the past when they attacked our troops. Those attacks are part of the Senate Record. Rush has nothing to apologize for and believe me, he won’t. The “phony soldiers” to whom he was referring were Jesse Macbeth and his ilk. Macbeth IS a phony soldier who was kicked out of the Army after 44 days in boot camp. Later he claimed to have earned a Purple Heart in Afghanistan and that he was an Army Ranger who participated in the killing of innocent civilians. He, and those like him, ARE “phony soldiers”. These are the individuals Rush was talking about. A simple review of the show’s transcript will confirm this. My question is, “When will Senator Harkin apologize to recovering addicts?”
October 1st, 2007 at 6:51 pmHas anyone read the transcript of what Rush said? He actually named a man who was found guilty of impersonating a solider. He was a ‘phony solider’. It appears this whole issue is growing off of a false description of his statement. Don’t let people like Reid rile us up over a falsehood.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:52 pmHey Kranzy! They did that to support our soldiers.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:52 pmKrazny, you are a coward.
But that’s ok, I’m tired of battling wits with an unarmed person.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:53 pmAtleast Rush has some balls.
Comment by daxawyes — October 1, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
To bad he needs help with them
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/27/national/main1753947.shtml
October 1st, 2007 at 6:53 pmTo Keithn,
Why are the Stalinists wasting time on private citizens who denigrate phony soldiers who deserve instead of writing legislation?
Hmm, you know, stuff like maybe a BUDGET!
LOL
October 1st, 2007 at 6:53 pm*who deserve it
October 1st, 2007 at 6:55 pmSenator Harkin, to paraphrase Henry Fonda in “Fort Apahe”, you a blagart, a crook, a fool and a stench in the nostrils of honest men.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:56 pmSome Dem’s are Libs, all Libs are Cowards. Reid and Harkin don’t have the Balls to debate with Rush. They’re both Libs.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:56 pmHarkin the most ultra liberal Anti American, Anti Military says what? He was pitted on Soldiers as they came back from Viet Nam as he was smoking dope! To Harken go to hell you wimpy littlle coward with no balls!
October 1st, 2007 at 6:59 pmheheh, downright scary to think half the Americans in this country support that mindset. i suppose its really not worth commenting on Krazny so i’ll just stop here and now. but yeah, its quite annoying to see my taxpayers dollars going to something so damned trivial…
October 1st, 2007 at 6:59 pmKrazny, you are a coward.
But that’s ok, I’m tired of battling wits with an unarmed person.
Comment by Sole_Earwitness — October 1, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
How am I a coward? I have continued to debate despite your obvious inability to do so. A coward would have run.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:00 pmKrazny, Can’t you read?
First of all, Rush DID apologize. He apologized on behalf of Harry Reid, John Murtha, Dick Durbin and John Kerry for their comments in the past when they attacked our troops. Those attacks are part of the Senate Record. Rush has nothing to apologize for and believe me, he won’t. The “phony soldiers†to whom he was referring were Jesse Macbeth and his ilk. Macbeth IS a phony soldier who was kicked out of the Army after 44 days in boot camp. Later he claimed to have earned a Purple Heart in Afghanistan and that he was an Army Ranger who participated in the killing of innocent civilians. He, and those like him, ARE “phony soldiersâ€. These are the individuals Rush was talking about. A simple review of the show’s transcript will confirm this. My question is, “When will Senator Harkin apologize to recovering addicts?â€
October 1st, 2007 at 7:02 pmIn reading through the posts on this board, one would have question whether there is any intelligent life forms left in the Democratic party. I think that we all know that there is still some in the Republican party.
Did any of you get to attend the DNC party in San Fran yesterday?
In going through the Democratic roster, I find that they have done everything in the book, that normal people would be in jail for. The majority of them are nothing more than petty little thieves, in my opinion!
Incidentally, the Republicans are only one step above the Dem’s.
Harkin is just a miniature Murtha, but with the same degree of intelligence, which is to say, (politely) the whole damned party is running a “few bricks shy of a full load.”
October 1st, 2007 at 7:02 pmSenator Reid:
I have just finished reading a transcript of your diatribe on the Senate floor today regarding Rush Limbaugh. I can assure you, Senator, that no one is fooled by your nonsensical rhetoric. The facts speak for themselves. Mr Limbaugh is not guilty of anything you claim. As always, he speaks the unadulterated truth, and for that, gets to be on the receiving end of such bilge that you proffer as statesmanlike debate.
When are you going to realize, sir, that the troops are not some political pawn for you and those of your ilk to use in the promotion of your misguided view of the direction Americans want this country to go in. The troops whom you claim now to defend, those very troops whom you have repeatedly called failures by your declaration that the war is lost, know exactly what you are trying to do with your smear of Mr. Limbaugh. Those very troops are fighting to protect your right to make a complete ass of yourself on the Senate floor. They know it. You know it. We all know it.
You are very much aware of the soldiers to whom Mr. Limbaugh was referring last week. Those individuals who made false claims as to thier service, were embraced by the left in this country as having a valid point of view for political purposes, then subsequently outed as the frauds they truly are.
There’s something you can surely relate to, sir. Fraud. I would respectfully suggest you finish out your term quietly so as not to do any more damage to this country. Then go back to Nevada and live out your life in the obscurity you deserve.
Robert Henry
Peabody, MA
716-***-****
I would urge you to call me, but I know you don’t have the stones.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:03 pmNotice how liberals act like defending oneself from any attack is its own new offense. “Shut up and take it like a man!”, is their standard demand. “Allow us to disparage and defame you, and if you dare to try and defend yourself, that only serves to prove our point that you are a horrible person! Admit it and apologize, or there’s hell to pay!”.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:05 pmOh, but not William Jefferson and his frozen $90k. Oh, but not Harry Reid and his corrupt real estate transactions. Oh, but not the Clintons and their too-many-to-mention abuses of people’s trust.
Oh no.
HARKIN FLASHBACK:
1984-1992 HARKIN claimed to have been a combat pilot flying F4`s and F8`s on combat air patrol and photo-reconnaissance support missions. Challenged by Sen.Goldwater Harkin backtracked and stated only over Cuba did he fly combat sorties.
Finally the liar and phony combat soldier Harkin admitted he had only served as a ferry pilot in Japan merely flying aircraft to be repaired to the Philippines.
Harkin the LIAR finally admitted he did not fly any combat missions or air patrol in Vietnam.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/gss/media/books.html
October 1st, 2007 at 7:06 pmLiberals -
“We’re for the military when we can use them to attack one of our poilitcal enemies. Otherwise we pretty much hate them.”
October 1st, 2007 at 7:06 pmFirst of all, Rush DID apologize. He apologized on behalf of Harry Reid, John Murtha, Dick Durbin and John Kerry for their comments in the past when they attacked our troops.
Comment by Tatum — October 1, 2007 @ 7:02 pm
Sorry didn’t realize that Rush was an appointed representative of Harry Reid, John Murtha, and and others. What a pathetic little specimen you are. I mean seriously. Try shutting off Rush sometime, clear your head. You might think a little straighter.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:06 pmBelow is a transcript of the inital story for which Rush defines, or sets as his definition, what a “phony soldier” is, Jesse MacBeth.
This is a story of who the left props up as heroes. They have their celebrities and one of them was Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth. Now, he was a “corporal.” I say in quotes. Twenty-three years old. What made Jesse MacBeth a hero to the anti-war crowd wasn’t his Purple Heart; it wasn’t his being affiliated with post-traumatic stress disorder from tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. No. What made Jesse MacBeth, Army Ranger, a hero to the left was his courage, in their view, off the battlefield, without regard to consequences. He told the world the abuses he had witnessed in Iraq, American soldiers killing unarmed civilians, hundreds of men, women, even children. In one gruesome account, translated into Arabic and spread widely across the Internet, Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth describes the horrors this way: “We would burn their bodies. We would hang their bodies from the rafters in the mosque.”
Now, recently, Jesse MacBeth, poster boy for the anti-war left, had his day in court. And you know what? He was sentenced to five months in jail and three years probation for falsifying a Department of Veterans Affairs claim and his Army discharge record. He was in the Army. Jesse MacBeth was in the Army, folks, briefly. Forty-four days before he washed out of boot camp. Jesse MacBeth isn’t an Army Ranger, never was. He isn’t a corporal, never was. He never won the Purple Heart, and he was never in combat to witness the horrors he claimed to have seen. You probably haven’t even heard about this. And, if you have, you haven’t heard much about it. This doesn’t fit the narrative and the template in the Drive-By Media and the Democrat Party as to who is a genuine war hero. Don’t look for any retractions, by the way. Not from the anti-war left, the anti-military Drive-By Media, or the Arabic websites that spread Jesse MacBeth’s lies about our troops, because the truth for the left is fiction that serves their purpose. They have to lie about such atrocities because they can’t find any that fit the template of the way they see the US military. In other words, for the American anti-war left, the greatest inconvenience they face is the truth.
A true “Phony Soldier”
October 1st, 2007 at 7:06 pmI ran across this blog accidentally and all I can say is we need better leadership. This demo – repub bullshit serves noone. don’t you all see that these 2 parties are running us down a road to death? This gets all of you upset to fight with each other and miss what’s really going on. It is us VS. the establishment. Everyone needs to calm down. Why is it that in real life liberals and consevitives can agree on almost anything. Democrats and republicans just fight tit for tat. This is our country and it takes all types to succeed. Democratic leadership doesn’t care about you and neither does the republicans. It’s time to overhaul with some new ideas. All this bickering and name calling just divides further.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:08 pmAh, revision of history – another favorite hobby of liberals.
After I nailed your ass to the wall on your intellectual dishonesty you just pretended that it didn’t happen and changed the subject by launching an ad hominem attack on Rush WRT his use of Viagra. Very mature.
You may possibly know when you are beaten (doubtful), but you definitely don’t know when to shut up and stop making yourself look like a fool.
You are a coward and a fool, and I’m no longer inclined to suffer your drivel. Good bye, and good luck on growing a functional brain. Please have yourself neutered at your earliest convenience.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:11 pmHas anyone actually read Limbaugh’s comment? Doubtful Sen. Harkin has. So much for diliberation (sp?).
October 1st, 2007 at 7:11 pmhttp://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/096670360X/qid=1092847772/sr=8-1
October 1st, 2007 at 7:13 pmTom Harkin and the rest of the cast of idiots do not have a clue to what Rush said. If they are so concerned about what is said about the troops, they should put themselfs in chek for what they are saying abot our brave men and women.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:15 pmHarry Reed is a card carrying communist, I don’t know why people have such a hard time accepting it. He isn’t alone in the congress, we are being over run with commies. If we don’t get them out of office, we are destined to fall from within.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:15 pmTom Harkin is the StalinistsakaDems attack dog !?
Candidate Harkin Stretches the Truth
Vietnam isn’t the only instance.
the Iowa lawmaker has found himself accused of misleading reporters about the troubles of his deaf brother. In addition, the budgetary mathematics he weaves into his basic stump speech have been challenged on network television. And allegations about Mr. Harkin’s truthfulness extend back well before the current campaign, back to his claims that he was a combat pilot in Vietnam.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005497
October 1st, 2007 at 7:16 pmComment by Sole_Earwitness — October 1, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
Delusions of adequacy I see, a common problem with ditto heads. Sorry man you didn’t “nail” me to anything. (How are those homo-erotic attractions coming?), and you clearly aren’t “done” with me. Sadly for you, I am heading home from my job. I am sure your rejoinder will be witty and intelligent.(doubtful), but you will be twisting in the wind as usual.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:17 pmTypical librals! You go by emotions and don’t read the transcripts of what was actually said! He was talking about ONE soldier Jesse MacBeth who falsified his military record and said there were soldiers killing civilians in Iraq. (No one in the lib media bothered to check their facts! Was this guy even in Iraq? Not that is would matter since liberals don’t think! ) ONE solder is what he was talking about — and the liberal media (and some people on this blog) take whatever they hear and don’t bother to get the facts. If you view is the only view then why can’t you back anything up with facts?
October 1st, 2007 at 7:18 pmThat is the first intelligent thing you’ve said.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:19 pmWas the investigative reporting done by Dan Blather?
October 1st, 2007 at 7:21 pmLol…politicians kill me with how they take everything out of context and reframe it into a slur. Has Senator Harkin actually HEARD what Rush said?
October 1st, 2007 at 7:24 pmDid you read comments 160 and 168 above. Surely they must be lies? That would make Rush’s comments well, taken out of context by my hero, Sen Harkin, and we all know he is next to saintlyness (he’s no crooked land-dealer like those NJ, NY, NV and IL senators).
So let’s stick to topic and talk about getting our troops home NOW. We all know that the right thing to do to help all those folks in Iraq is to pull our troops out, just like we did in Vietnam and, heck, only a couple of million died after that.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:28 pmoops – now comments 159 and 168. I guess the numbers change as comments get pulled because they conflict with the thought police.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:29 pmAmazing. This is my first time on this blog, and I discover none of the liberals and self described clear and free thinkers actually take the time to check what Limbaugh said. The groupthink atmosphere would stun George Orwell.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:32 pmHarkin’s statement is Sick Sick Sick. This is the problem with the Democratic Party, their msg is Hate Hate Hate.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:36 pmTo hell with Limbaugh.
He is no better than Reid or Harkin.
Just another bigot….an anti-Southern one at that.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:36 pmOkay let’s see. Top rated Right Wing radio host versus left wing loony bird Senator.
Rush-very successful
Senate 20% approval rating
Rush-fights for the troops
The left gives up for the troops.
I bet Harkin didn’t even listen to the sound bite of the show. Shame on you Sen Harkin.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:38 pmTo all of you dufus liberals (all are dufuses as well as most in the media), did you actually listen to what Rush had said or have you heard about this from somewhere else? Rush was talking about a specific individual that was known not to have gone to Iraq and was only in boot camp. All that he “phony soldier” had said was made up. Harkin is making an a$$ out of “u”, but not “me”. He said that he “assumed” Rush was talking about soldiers against the were as phony soldiers which is not true. I guess you can lead a liberal to water – and push him/her in!
To Buckie Boy: There is no slam dunk here. You have been deceived.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:41 pmBoy, Harkin and the pro-defeat Leftists are really desperate. Just like everything else that the Leftistas do, it will back fire on them big time.
I also note how the regular readers of this blog act like a typical bunch of little insulting sozialistoids. Just reminds you : nazis are always leftists.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:46 pmIt seems to me that Senators like Harkin are the reason Congress now has an all time low…. Even lower than Bush. Go and listen to the Youtube video of what Rush really said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm84gOXkZaY
October 1st, 2007 at 7:47 pmHarkin and all of the other surrender democrats can go to hell! Everyone knows that the democrats want the US to loose the war. It’s the same old “Blame America First” crap and I am so sick and tired of it. They can now see that things are starting to turn around in Iraq and they are nervous as hell! Rush speaks the truth! I can’t wait until the election, there will be some unemployed democrat’s, you mark my words!
October 1st, 2007 at 7:50 pmThe worst part of the call Limbaugh took was when the crazy Lefty caller tried to smear the vast majority of active troops by suggesting that they didn’t join the military to serve the country, but for rather less noble reasons:
CALLER 2: I have a retort to Mike in Chicago, because I am a serving American military, in the Army. I’ve been serving for 14 years, very proudly.
LIMBAUGH: Thank you, sir.
CALLER 2: And, you know, I’m one of the few that joined the Army to serve my country, I’m proud to say, not for the money or anything like that.
Disgusting.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:50 pmAt 5,000 per, I don’t have time for comment. Trash the condoms.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:02 pm“This thread must have gotten linked by the drudge report or something given the large number of whackos showing up to defend Rush.”—Comment by Krazny
Reckon we “whackos” are interrupting their daily circle jerk!!!
TPers are a Bunch of delusional red-diaper-doper crybabies.
Rush Limbaugh for POTUS, and Anne Coulter for VP. Yeah!
October 1st, 2007 at 8:05 pmHarkin is pathetic
This is all part of the Dem 08 strategy. We will see more of this from both sides.
Nothing is gained here except for heightening emotions, polarizing sides and collecting political donations.
Keep sending in your cash.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:11 pmUm larfor, If you read the Federalist Papers you will discover that the founding fathers railed against the intrusion of religion in government. As for taxes, I’m against them too — especially my taxes being used to support this insane war. And perhaps you’ve seen the cover of the latest issue of American Progressive, with General Pet on a cover headlined Sycophant Savior — isn’t that what MoveOn said? As for half-truths, you see it isn’t always what they say, it’s that they only give half the story, so you only hear one side. As for an example, Hannity said recently that Rudy was a popular Mayor of New York — actually his popularity rating on September 10th was under 30%. New Yorkers, of which I am, despised him. But Hannity supports him so you won’t hear that. By the way, in every poll New Yorkers strongly support Hillary over Rudy, you won’t hear that either. That’s an example of a half truth.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:19 pmFirst let’s get the facts straight. Mr Limbaugh was refering to you man who said the he was an Army Ranger, served in Iraq, witnessed countless atrocities from beatings to hangings etc. The Dems were so happy with what the heard they made this kid an anti war poster child before checking him out. They made complete fools of themselves. Not only were his stories untrue. This poster child never finished bootcamp before he was kicked out of the Army. There was another similar situation with another young soldier. I can’t remember all of the details, but it was the same situation. The heard what they wanted to hear and the stories turned out to false. This kid again was made a poster child and the libs/dems end up with egg on their face. Mr Limbaugh was refering strickly two these two instances. I listened to the broadcast that day and got the whole story. As a military member, I would feel comfortable calling these two worthless peons phonies. In fact, the word coward fits them better. The fact is that the left is too quick run any story they hear. It doesn’t even have to be proven true. Then when they get caught with their pants around their ankles because they were stupid and didn’t verify stories. The result to name calling and doing anything to discredit anyone who calls them on it. Another fact is that Mr Limbaugh and also Mr Hannity have done more to support and help service members then any liberal or democrat could ever do. If you want to bash somebody, start in your own left wing of the “house”. The Dems control congress and have yet to do a thing about nothing. The bring up a non-binding resolution here and there that gets shot down. Didn’t you elect them to end the war and change the country? They have the power to end the war tomorrow, but they don’t have the courage to do it. Why don’t you get mad and bash them. They are the real problem. I forgot. It’s all the Bush administrations fault. Nancy Pelosi disapears for 6 weeks and shows back up with a new face lift. Isn’t there a war on? You people on the left have been had. You bought the pander. Deal with it!
October 1st, 2007 at 8:26 pmLimbaugh’s comment of “phoney soldiers” . . . what is the context and did he say “soldier” or “soldiers” . . . I think that it makes a big difference. If he used “soldiers” then he is just trying to spin his way out by attacking his critics. If he used “soldier” then his critics are taking the term out of context to cover their current record.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:35 pmdgaggi, anyone who listens to Limbaugh, as I do for laughs, knows exactly what he meant. And he meant exactly what he is being accused of saying. Notice the previous caller said he was a Republican who was against the war — and Rush continued to insist the caller wasn’t a Republican, because no Republican could be against the war. Get the point? Or is that too complicated. You tell me, how does Rush know to which party the caller belonged? But if he disagreed with what Rush declared all Republicans must agree therefore he couldn’t be a Republican. Whoa, that’s a neat bit of logic. And why do you continue to believe a proven liar. (See oxycontin case)
October 1st, 2007 at 8:39 pmHarkin and Reid either know what Limbaugh actually said, and know that they are lying, or don’t know what he said, jumped on a false bandwagon (perhaps to try to live down supporting the thugs of MoveOn) and are total incompetants.
Facts, data, details, truth – irrelevant to them and why not? From the comments here, most of you prefer blinding hatred to reality. Pitiful.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:42 pmWhy can’t we all just get along?
October 1st, 2007 at 8:46 pmComment by Rickster
Another closeted republican.
It is to laugh.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:47 pmThis is a sad state of affairs………..Post 188 is RIGHT ON THE MONEY. There is a reason that the Democratic controlled senate has a lower approval rating that the President, and this poor display is an excellent case in point. It’s time to “MOVEON.org!”
October 1st, 2007 at 8:48 pmFacts, data, details, truth – irrelevant to them and why not? From the comments here, most of you prefer blinding hatred to reality. Pitiful.
Comment by Rickvid in Seattle
Says the WMD bedwetter…
October 1st, 2007 at 8:48 pmComment by WP Bob
Are you living in a bubble? You’d have to be, to have missed his quote.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:50 pmIt’s time to “MOVEON.org!â€
Comment by jugdish
We will – to a veto-proof majority in the Senate, next year.
Then you guys will really squeal!
October 1st, 2007 at 8:51 pmIN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OCTOBER 1, 2007
Mr. KINGSTON submitted the following resolution
Honoring all Americans serving in the Armed Forces of the United States and commending broadcaster Rush Limbaugh for his relentless efforts to build and maintain troop morale through worldwide radio broadcasts and personal visits to conflict regions.
Whereas the need to show support for American troops serving and fighting both here and abroad during a time of global conflict has never been greater, with the need to communicate an uplifting message of encouragement to American soldiers eternally important, in addition to the morale-boosting value of personal visits to combat region by highly-regarded individuals;
Whereas every American, to include service men and women and broadcasters, is entitled to free speech and the free exchange of ideas; Whereas daily radio broadcasts reaching tens of millions of civilians and soldiers both in America and abroad by way of the Armed Forces Radio Network are conducted five days a week by Rush Hudson Limbaugh III;
Whereas Mr. Limbaugh has consistently used his broadcast time to praise American troops and support them during their ongoing efforts to secure peace in a troubled world;
Whereas Mr. Limbaugh has met with troops in Afghanistan; raised and donated millions of dollars to the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation, which provides college scholarships to the children of Marines and veterans of other branches killed in action; features an “Adopt a Soldier†program which provides them with free subscription access to his online program features; and Whereas Mr. Limbaugh’s commitment to American troops serving both here and abroad remains as strong as ever: Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the House of Representatives
P.S. Limbaugh was talking about a “self proclaimed” veteran who “suposedly” witnessed atrocities by the US military by the name of Jesse Macbeth, (who was incidently reported by ABC with the same use of “phony soldier”)who had been kicked out of boot camp and never was in the military and those like him, of which there have been several, albeit useful to the Dems and their willing accomplices in the drive by media.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:54 pmIt is unbelievable to me that a United States Senator of any party would attack a private citizen and distort their comments that they are free to give. For Leftist liberals to now look like they are pro-millitary shows their desparate attempts to get past their embarassing display during the Petraeus hearings.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:55 pm“Nothing is gained here except for heightening emotions, polarizing sides and collecting political donations.”
Comment by zoo2
Not so, little one. “What is gained” is a souring of “conservative” voters for their available candidates. The religious right doesn’t have a favored candidate, and they hate the current republican field. That’s one third of votes for repub candidates. They are currently talking about going third-party on your asses.
Then what will you guys do?
October 1st, 2007 at 8:58 pm“t is unbelievable to me that a United States Senator of any party would attack a private citizen and distort their comments that they are free to give.”
Except for the fact that what you’ve just said is a lie.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:59 pmLimbaugh’s comment of “phoney soldiers†. . . what is the context and did he say “soldier†or “soldiers†. . . I think that it makes a big difference. If he used “soldiers†then he is just trying to spin his way out by attacking his critics. If he used “soldier†then his critics are taking the term out of context to cover their current record.
Comment by WP Bob — October 1, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
Unfortunately, there have been several…and Limbaugh has commented of each of them as they are trotted out by the anti-war crowd…so he’s justified in using the plural.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:00 pmComment by scottked —
It’s funny how you bedwetters fell for the WMD claim, and now think we’re the ones who have fallen for a false assertion – when Rush has already been busted cooking his transcripts.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:01 pmHow many of you left-wing liberal morons have heard what Rush actually said? Have you heard of Jesse MacBeth? Ms- I’m not a lesbian Cackle Fruit- Clinton is having her way with the media. The media has lost so much credibility! ABC in particular is the mouthpeice of the anti-Bush, anti U.S. Democrats! Hillary, aka Joseph Goebbels are like the pitbulls of Michael Vick and the Nazis of WWII rolled into one.. Isn’t ironic that the real voices of descent-Rush and Bill O’Reilly are being attacked in “the Media”. Well, Ms- I’m not a lesbian Cackle Fruit- Clinton couldn’t destroy the country if anyone disagreed. The liberal Democrat party should be renamed The National Socialist Party-Nazi. Remember Hitler promised the Germans everything and gave them hell on earth!! Do we want the same?
October 1st, 2007 at 9:01 pmThe real issue here is that no one believes Rush would attack American soliders. He loves the military and has made it obvious for years.
The general public also knows that a left wing wackos at Moveon.org actually hate our men and women in uniform. The postings actuallly cheer on the enemy are all over the site and have been reposted ad nauseum to the Wall St. Journal, USA Today and other mainstream publications.
Also, Rush has the truth on his side here. The whole interchange in question is posted on his site and it makes it plain where the truth lies.
Moveons smearing of a U.S. commander (one that was only a few months before confirmed to his post by a democrat controlled congress) is also a matter of public record.
The true facts speak for themselves.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:02 pmComment by gmood
Unhinged…
Have you been sampling Rush’s OXY?
October 1st, 2007 at 9:02 pm“The real issue here is that no one believes Rush would attack American soliders. He loves the military and has made it obvious for years.”
Baloney for sale…
October 1st, 2007 at 9:03 pmMoveons smearing of a U.S. commander (one that was only a few months before confirmed to his post by a democrat controlled congress) is also a matter of public record.
The true facts speak for themselves.
Comment by johnny
How silly. You weren’t here complaining when Fox News did the same thing to Murtha, by asking a question instead of making a statement.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:04 pmBarfly,
The GOP will unite, if for no other reason than to vote against either Comrade Chairman Clinton or Comrade Chairman Obama.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:05 pmLeft Wing Radical Democrats at it again.. Thinking if they LIE enough folks will buy it!! WRONG this time it is on tape. So now Dems think drug use is wrong..interesting. Jesse was a Left Wing Democray hero here in the Puget Sound area. The good little Sick Liberals had a real spokeperson for their Hate the Troops Parade. Once again we see the the Dems are lying and KNOW the facts THEY are LYING about MediaMatters, Soros, Hillary Clinton behind this one. Good little QUEENS like Harkin, David Brock, Hillarys Press Sec. C. Neel Latimore are ALL in on this TOO. Good one GIRLS!
October 1st, 2007 at 9:06 pmComment by mikey309
Perhaps you can answer a question: Why do repubs hate the troops? They sell weapons to terrorists, and thinks nothing of it.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:07 pmComment by scottked —
That “comrade” stuff just doesn’t have the same zing, now that the USSR failed.
Hold tight to that fantasy, Bunky. It will be all you have to keep you warm, when you’re back in the political wilderness…
October 1st, 2007 at 9:09 pm“So now Dems think drug use is wrong..interesting.”
No, we think hypocrisy is wrong. And Rush is a hypocrite for ragging on drug users.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:10 pmDavidknows little(190),
October 1st, 2007 at 9:10 pmI’m sure that you listened as oblectively as you sound. That’s the left’s problem. If you listened to the same broadcast that I did, you would know that he was refering only to soldiers who MADE up war stories that were later proven totally false. Oh, and he was being sarcastic about the caller that against the war. I’ve been serving for 17 years. It’s OK to be against the war. That’s what people before me have died defending and what I’m willing to die defending. It’s not OK to make up stories that aren’t true and not very responsible not to check out stories before you run with them. Rush Limbaugh is an “entertainer” my friend. He doesn’t make policy. Why don’t you focus on the “get nothing done” congress that’s in power right now.
” If you listened to the same broadcast that I did, you would know that he was refering only to soldiers who MADE up war stories that were later proven totally false.”
That’s not what I heard. But thanks for playing.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:12 pm“That’s what people before me have died defending and what I’m willing to die defending.”
Whenever a troll is intellectually bankrupt, trotting out an unproveable claim usually comes next.
Your supposed service brings nothing to this debate.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:14 pmBarfly said ” – when Rush has already been busted cooking his transcripts.”…uh huh…can anyone say disconnected from reality?
October 1st, 2007 at 9:14 pmWhat is it like Barfly to live on lollipop lane, in a little gum drop house? I’d like to know what color the sky is in your world, so I can visit it when I need a break from reality…
“That’s not what I heard. But thanks for playing.”
October 1st, 2007 at 9:15 pmNo, thank you for playing.
“What is it like Barfly to live on lollipop lane, in a little gum drop house? I’d like to know what color the sky is in your world, so I can visit it when I need a break from reality…”
Comment by scottked
Another WMD bedwetter with no proof. Don’t you guys ever get tired of being punked?
October 1st, 2007 at 9:16 pmI see no troll has been able to debunk the fact that Rush got caught editing his transcripts, to make it seem he hadn’t just insulted troops in the field – which is what he did.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:18 pmThen what will you guys do?
Comment by barfly — October 1, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
We’ll quite simply lock ‘n load barf-lie.
Semper Fidelis
October 1st, 2007 at 9:18 pmAnd no troll has been able to explain why it is only republican presidents who arm terrorists.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:19 pmBarfly,
October 1st, 2007 at 9:20 pmare you calling me a phony? Careful… The Dems might be slamming you tomorrow. You do drugs?
Commet to gmood
Can you cite another example of a “phoney soldier” that Limbaugh could have been calling a name other than Jesse Macbeth? You said that there were “several.”
I ignore all the name callers on this board who have to stoop to that level when they can’t respond to arguments whether they are Limbaugh supporters or critics.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:20 pm“We’ll quite simply lock ‘n load barf-lie.
Semper Fidelis”
Comment by roboright
I’m shakin’.
You ‘ll first have to put down the game controller…
October 1st, 2007 at 9:21 pmWow!!! The dems really stepped in it this time. The real question is whether Reid and Harkin knowingly misrepresented what Rush said or if they just ran with the media matters hatchet job story. I can’t believe grown men can behave in this manner. It reminds me of how the Nazis used the press to smear their enemies with lies before they were actually able to send them to the gas chambers. The Dems are literally snatching defeat from the jaws of victory with this BS and it’s very entertaining to watch. Too bad it only hurts the country. They took the 2006 “mandate” from voters and wiped their backsides with it!
October 1st, 2007 at 9:21 pmLOL….
October 1st, 2007 at 9:24 pmAs far as I can tell, the entries made by the libs must be generated by the same moron and the person is getting paid by George Soros on a per entry basis.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:24 pmBarfly,
are you calling me a phony? Careful… The Dems might be slamming you tomorrow. You do drugs?
Comment by dgaggi
See? You used a question to construct that strawman, just like MoveOn used a question. And no, I didn’t call you a phony – just as the Petreaus ad wasn’t a smear, because they asked a question. I said your sercice whether real or imagined, brings nothing to this debate.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:24 pmI love this.This is the beginning of the end of Bumrush.
A couple of years from now,he’ll be doing infomercials.Then after his wife leaves him and threatens to unleash all of his shortcomings unless she gets a lionshare of his money,he’ll be on the qt dating scene trying to convince some much younger woman he had the most listened to radio show in the nation.
This punk is on his way out.He just doesn’t know it yet.
There you have it.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:24 pmI’m shakin’.
You ‘ll first have to put down the game controller…
Comment by barfly — October 1, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
Yukkety Yuk Yuk. The only game controller I have is a .308!
Not that you’d know what that is, sissyboy.
Robo
October 1st, 2007 at 9:25 pm“As far as I can tell, the entries made by the libs must be generated by the same moron and the person is getting paid by George Soros on a per entry basis.”
Comment by livesiyrallih
God, I wish.
And did using the word moron just now give you a little thrill? How about enlisting? That’s where the real thrills are.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:27 pmNot that you’d know what that is, sissyboy.
Robo
Comment by roboright
C’mon over some night and find out, ya’ little nerd.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:27 pm“I love this.This is the beginning of the end of Bumrush.
A couple of years from now,he’ll be doing infomercials.Then after his wife leaves him and threatens to unleash all of his shortcomings unless she gets a lionshare of his money,he’ll be on the qt dating scene trying to convince some much younger woman he had the most listened to radio show in the nation.
This punk is on his way out.He just doesn’t know it yet.
There you have it.”
…yea, you libs have been saying that for 19 years..
October 1st, 2007 at 9:28 pmdgaggi, it has been said that patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, but perhaps we should now modify that to something like, satire is the last refuge of the intellectually-deprived. It seems that whenever rightwingers are caught saying something they regret they claim they were kidding, that is was just satire. That’s what Ann Coulter said when criticized from claiming the mistake Timothy McVeigh made was not blowing up the New York Times building. You don’t even know what satire is — and I assure it ain’t what Limbaugh was doing. He wasn’t kidding, he hung up a caller who proved him wrong because he didn’t have a response to him.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:30 pmThe Limbaughs and Hannity’s of the world do this country no good. And I do want to point out that both broadcast from New York — and New York now has no statewide elected Republicans and even the Mayor has left the party, so I don;t think they’re doing a very good job selling their line.
I think Ronald Reagan said it best, “The libs are not ignorant, they just know so much that isn’t so.”
October 1st, 2007 at 9:30 pmReply to barfly
Already did my time in the 1970’s. But I didn’t run to Canada like you probably did.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:32 pmWatch the little bastards scream and twist their panties about how mean and nasty the dems are.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:38 pmC’mon over some night and find out, ya’ little nerd.
Comment by barfly — October 1, 2007 @ 9:27 pm
Sure, Barf-lie! I’ll be easy to recognize as the only straight in whatever particular hangout of yours that you choose.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:41 pmIf I didn’t know better, I’d say the pubs let the dems take control of congress just to let Americans know where the dems truly stand. One year ago, I’d say there wouldn’t be a chance in hell that a pub would win the presidential election in 2008. Now I’d say that it’s a foregone conclusion that the pubs will retain the executive office because of this type of dead agenting and black propaganda. Keep it up dems and the pubs will control all three branches of government again.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:42 pmHey Joe,
October 1st, 2007 at 9:45 pmI totally agree…
Mr. Harkin
October 1st, 2007 at 9:49 pmYou just lost my vote in Iowa. I listened to the program and Media Matters completely took this out of context… THEY LIED, and you should be ashamed of not doing your own homework.
Wow! All you libs sound just like those nasty republicans when you condemn someone for using drugs. I thought it was none of your business if someone wants to use drugs. I also thought you should feel compassionate for people who have problems with addiction. Isn’t it a disease? Of course, all of your beliefs go up in smoke when it’s someone you disagree with.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:52 pmAll you Woodward and Berstein wanna-bees out there should do some investigative reporting to find out that, Rush Limbaugh was calling a man who made up his military service, a “phony”. Put down the building 7 conspiracy papers and the Halliburton financial records and find out what was really said. The transcripts are out there for everyone to read.
And no troll has been able to explain why it is only republican presidents who arm terrorists.
Comment by barfly — October 1, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
Barf-lie has trouble recalling Slick’s Amb. Notbright being “fooled” by N. Korea and then approving the sale of nuke missile guidance systems to the Chicoms.
And BTW, barf-lie, only republican presidents DISARM terrorists, ya puke.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:53 pmHey Robo,
October 1st, 2007 at 9:58 pmI think Barfly flew to the bar…Monday must be 5 cent draft night..
Thank-you DRINKDUFF, it is refreshing to see someone who actually researches before sounding off. Many of these posters could learn from you.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:58 pmWhy don’t you liberal morons act as smart as you pretend you are? I know none of you liberal whackjobs are interested in the TRUTH but if any of you would care to READ the transcript of what Rush Limbaugh actually said you are free to visit his website to read the transcript. So why don’t all you military hating libs quit being such hypocrits and stop pretending that you love the military. We see you for what you really are, you hate and despise the military and would just as soon spit on them as look at them. But SILLY ME! I forgot!! John Kerry was in Vietnam!! How could I let that slip my mind??! Rush was referring to ONE soldier by his remark that was taken WAY out of context…and who is a phony soldier receiving benefit not entitled to. It is beyond me how you can take TWO words out of a monologue and and try to make it say something the person never said.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:59 pmHey Pubs,
October 1st, 2007 at 10:00 pmWin the White House? With which one of these guys? The guy who married his cousin and cheated on two wives and will bring The First
Mistress to the White House? The guy off the shelf at Wal-Mart with his
hair glued into place who is either lying now or lied to the voters of Massachusetts six years ago? The sad and tired old man who has difficulty remembering what he said a week ago and sold out his ethics at Bob Jones University? The one who visited his cancer-ridden wife in the hospital to tell her he was divorcing her to marry the woman with whom he was having an affair? The Governor who does not believe in evolution? And all of whom will keep us in Iraq against the wishes of 65% of the American populace? I’m afraid you’ve been swimming in the Kool-Aid.
Interesting Davidknows!! Speaking of Iraq…NONE of the candidates running for president on the democratic ticket will say that they are going to pull out of Iraq if elected. Now why is that?? Because they know it will be DISASTER if they do.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:05 pmNot to mention every dem candidate lied to their constituency about pulling out of Iraq…
October 1st, 2007 at 10:07 pmI never expected much from Tom Harkin but this is despicable, especially coming from the hypocrites who are so sanctimonious about defending free speech. This crowd will wail and moan about their speech being censored when it is only being challenged, and yet they not only are trying to censor speech that upsets them with the fairness doctrine but then they have to personally attack the speaker by citing a former personal weakness. Truly below the below the belt, and coming from a US Senator, too. Not only personally unworthy but also a dodge of the point Rush is making. They know who and what the “phony soldier” comment is. They just either choose to dishonestly represent it because they can get mileage out of it or they are not free to distance themselves from their masters – George Soros and all the groups that spring from his ill-gotten cash.
Had this been a Republican senator citing Sean Penn’s drugs and alcohol and violent tendencies in a mocking speech on the senate floor in an effort to either rebut a point or just score points with his base, I’d be writing the same about that. Too few Democrats in this post have that sort of sense or decency and it’s to their own detriment. It just makes it that much harder to believe the sincerity of anything else they say.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:10 pmAhh, but here’s the difference jmiah22. The Dems will leave a small force there — that’s what they’ve said. All the Republicans will leave the current sized force intact, McCain even wants to add more troops. And let me ask you this question: What will that disaster be? Do you think the Iraqui’s are going to allow Al Quadea to take control any more than they have let us take control? How about Iran, the Iraqui’s lost a million men in the war against Iran, think they’re going to let the Iranians get control of the oil?
October 1st, 2007 at 10:14 pmWhat will happen is what has happened in every other dictator led state that has been broken up — it will end up in smaller states finding a way to share revenue. Will people die? Unfortunately, they will, but fortunately they won’t be your kids. And they definitely won’t be mine. Tell me, seriously, what is this disaster you’re threatening? That’s just some more Bushspeak to keep you scared and in line. Think! Think! Think!
” I know none of you liberal whackjobs are interested in the TRUTH but if any of you would care to READ the transcript of what Rush Limbaugh actually said you are free to visit his website to read the transcript.”
You mean his edited transcript? How dull are you?
October 1st, 2007 at 10:15 pmThe pubs could nominate an empty suit at this point and he’d beat Hillary. Sorry Dems, the game is over and the writing is on the wall. Ya’ll had your chance to shine and blew it. Maybe you guys can get it together again before 2010.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:18 pm“Speaking of Iraq…NONE of the candidates running for president on the democratic ticket will say that they are going to pull out of Iraq if elected. Now why is that??”
Comment by jmiah22
Because Bush isn’t giving us the true picture, and only an idiot would make predictions based on partial info.
Oh, I forgot: that’s just what you bedwetters did before the invasion! And we all know how bad your side is at predicting future events, eh, cakewalk boy?
October 1st, 2007 at 10:20 pmHey, they ARE going to nominate an empty suit. That’s all they have.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:24 pm“Thank-you DRINKDUFF, it is refreshing to see someone who actually researches before sounding off. Many of these posters could learn from you.
Comment by Iowa College Instructor
He’s an idiot, and you admire him? The standards in Iowa must have hit rock bottom if you’re an instructor – and I’m speaking as a former Iowan.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:25 pmHarkin, Reid, Pelosi and Clinton are all cowards and traitors to the United States.
Harkin is an idiot and a buffon with the IQ of a watermelon——-one without any seeds!!!!
Reid should be ex-communicated from the Morman Church.
The Wicked Witch of the West (Pelosi) and the Wicked Witch of the East (Clinton)——-dropping a house on their fat heads would be a terrible waste of good timber!!!!
God Help Us—–The Idiots are now in charge!!!!
October 1st, 2007 at 10:25 pmIf you would bother to read the transcript of the actual conversation between Rush and a caller you would with any intelligence know that this whole thing has been blown out of proportion . Imagine a senator taking the time from the senate to degrade a private citizen. Jealousy and fear. Rush is 100 times the man that wimpy Reid is. The people in Nevada should stop and think about who they are putting in office. They should be ashamed of themselves.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:26 pmComment by Joe Armstrong
Joe’s arm may be stong, but he’s got a flyweight intelligence…
October 1st, 2007 at 10:27 pmYankeeBill’s found Rush’s stash, it would appear…
October 1st, 2007 at 10:28 pmGod Help Us—–The Idiots are now in charge!!!!
Comment by YankeeBill
They have been in charge that is why the congressional approval rating is at 11%..the lowest in history!!
October 1st, 2007 at 10:29 pm“If you would bother to read the transcript of the actual conversation between Rush and a caller you would with any intelligence know that this whole thing has been blown out of proportion .”
That would be the edited version. How gullible are you guys?
Oh, yeah; I forgot how you guys hyperventilated at the mere mention of WMD’s.
Sorry.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:30 pmThou shalt pull thy head out…
October 1st, 2007 at 10:31 pmThey have been in charge that is why the congressional approval rating is at 11%..the lowest in history!!
Comment by scottked
Wait until next year, and the veto-proof majority. Then you guys will really squeal!
October 1st, 2007 at 10:31 pmCommet to gmood
Can you cite another example of a “phoney soldier†that Limbaugh could have been calling a name other than Jesse Macbeth? You said that there were “several.â€
I ignore all the name callers on this board who have to stoop to that level when they can’t respond to arguments whether they are Limbaugh supporters or critics.
Comment by WP Bob — October 1, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
He talked quite a bit about Scott Thomas Beauchamp.
The Scott Thomas Beauchamp controversy concerns the publication of a series of diaries by Scott Thomas Beauchamp (b. 1983 St. Louis, Missouri) – a private in the United States Army, serving in the Iraq War, and a member of Alpha Company, 1/18 Infantry, Second Brigade Combat Team, First Infantry Division.[1][2]
In the The New Republic, under the pen name “Scott Thomas”, Beauchamp filed three entries about serving at FOB Falcon, Baghdad. These entries concerned misconduct by soldiers, including Beauchamp, during the US post invasion Iraq involvement.
An Army investigation concluded the allegations made by Beauchamp were false. Howard Kurtz of The Washington Post reported that the Army statement said “His platoon and company were interviewed and no one could substantiate the claims.”
I know there have been others, it seems like they pop up every couple of months…Scott Thomas is the only one I remember by name.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:32 pmSure, Barfly, all the Democrat candidates can’t tell us honestly what they will do because mean old George Bush won’t tell them the truth about Iraq. Right. They don’t have access to any information, haven’t made multiple trips to Iraq and haven’t hired a dozen advisors on the subject. Make up your minds – is he an idiot or an evil genius?
And we can’t believe Rush’s transcript because it’s edited? How suicidal would that be if he did that? Only milliions of listeners and dozens of news outlets that record his shows for soundbites could expose it as fraudulent. He would lose more credibility in an hour by his own hand than the entire Democrat leadership ever had.
You know, Barfly, you really don’t have to deal with all these silly points of logic and fact to hold onto your ignorance. You’re allowed. Just do us all a favor and vote somewhere they use butterfly ballots.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:33 pmLiberal woosies are spineless worms and don’t want to hear any facts. I have heard the comments and anyone who thinks Rush is anti-military is a lamb led to slaughter. Go ahead and continue to believe the lie dorks. Please make sure to give up your guns too and all your other rights and don’t forget that the polar ice caps are melting into your kitchen right now.
Let’s see- Leo DiCaprio must know everything about our environment and certainly has no agenda but gosh he was “king of the world” -what a dork. I digress for those of you too slow to read all my words.
Bottom line- Rush challenged wienie democrat politicians to come on his radio show and debate him and guess what- they won’t as they are spineless weasels who bash the military yet somehow attack the biggest hawk in the media for anti-military views…..Duh WTF…I say a stupid strategic move…what say you
October 1st, 2007 at 10:34 pmComment by Law1
Congress still hasn’t seen Saddam’s weapons declaration. They aren’t going to make predictions, given the amount of cherry-picking that’s already been revealed. Your partisanship blinds you to the truth.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:36 pmComment by loangunman
A fine example of republican wit – when it’s spelled correctly.
Or do you make a habit of borrowing other’s guns?
October 1st, 2007 at 10:37 pmCommet to gmood
Can you cite another example of a “phoney soldier†that Limbaugh could have been calling a name other than Jesse Macbeth? You said that there were “several.â€
I ignore all the name callers on this board who have to stoop to that level when they can’t respond to arguments whether they are Limbaugh supporters or critics.
Comment by WP Bob — October 1, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
Actually, I first heard about Tom Harkin’s own embellishment of his service record during the Vietnam War on Rush’s show, but that was years ago…so, he’s been calling out these liars for quite a long time.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:39 pmOh…now we’re off on WMD? Hillary and Obama can’t say if they will definitely pull the troops out because they think George Bush lied about WMD? Interesting point. “He got us in under false pretenses, but I can’t say I’ll pull out because I’m still so confused by it.” You aren’t a John Edwards advisor by any chance?
Yes – the whole world lied to Hillary about WMD. Even her husband.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:39 pm“what say you”
I say let them debate in a neutral forum, where Rush can’t shut off the mike of anyone he disagrees with.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:39 pmloangunman, your post is rambling, dishonest, demented and deceitful. No wonder you are so willing to support Rush Weinie and his hate speech. You wingnuts bash military people, and military heroes that disagree with you constantly, stop whining, coward. Or should I say – dork.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:39 pmHow dull are you?
Comment by barfly — October 1, 2007 @ 10:15 pm
Obviously not as dull as you are distressed!
Oh yeah, answered yer little question up there in #244, barf-lie.
This is way too fun. TPer Barf-lie (chafing under the circle-jerkus interruptus provided by the Drudge link) has inspired me to propose to my conservative brothers and sisters that we form say, a posse to not raid, but KNOT the collective panties of a selected sanctuary of these crybabies with regularity and malice aforethought? Why (k)not? They do it over at TH all the time. Typical punks, they can dish it out but can’t take it.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:40 pmOh…now we’re off on WMD? Hillary and Obama can’t say if they will definitely pull the troops out because they think George Bush lied about WMD?
Man, you’re dense. Bush has been caught lying about many things, so his credibility’s shot.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:41 pmAs the other blogger posted, you all are so misinformed–ABC did a story on phony soliders–the individual that contacted Rush Limbaugh was a PHONY!!!! Rush was correct in hanging up on him–this guy is a disgrace to those real soliders in our military. So what does our dumb ass democratic congress do? They go nuts–if they put so much energy on real issues we would all be better off. This is way they have an approval rating lower than George Bush.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:41 pmC’mon Ryan. Can’t you do any better than personal attacks. Some substance please before I actually destroy your argument. Please getone first and avoid the personal attacks. I am waiting……
October 1st, 2007 at 10:41 pmComment by roboright
Thanks robo. and goodby.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:42 pmGmood,
I am sure your recitation regarding Scott Thomas Beauchamp will be de-bunked by geniuses like Barfly by statements like…oh let me guess…”his transcript was edited”…
Law1..there you go, using logic. Barfly and those like him will surely see through your attempt to “edit” the linear thought process…
October 1st, 2007 at 10:42 pmWaiting
October 1st, 2007 at 10:42 pmsee last comment…uh…waiting…oops forgot there is no argument against mine that holds any water
October 1st, 2007 at 10:43 pmC’mon Ryan. Can’t you do any better than personal attacks. Some substance please before I actually destroy your argument. Please getone first and avoid the personal attacks. I am waiting……
Comment by loangunman — October 1, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
Person attacks? I responded to you, what ‘response’ did you give? None.
As for personal attacks, you referring to Rush’s personal attack on Murtha, or your attack on Murtha by defending Rush?
You hypocrites really make me laugh!
October 1st, 2007 at 10:43 pmbarfly,
Please come back to Iowa. For the most part civility is practiced here regardless of your politics. You should still look at the transcript – research is the foundation for education.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:44 pmsee last comment…uh…waiting…oops forgot there is no argument against mine that holds any water
Comment by loangunman — October 1, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
You didn’t post an argument, you just whined a lot like most conservatives. Your inability to tell the difference is why you guys have lost so many elections for so many decades.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:44 pmSaying that Rush didn’t edit the transcript, after being shown clear evidence to the contrary, brands you as an idiot, Loan.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:45 pmPlease come back to Iowa. For the most part civility is practiced here regardless of your politics. You should still look at the transcript – research is the foundation for education.
Comment by Iowa College Instructor — October 1, 2007 @ 10:44 pm
You mean the transcript which shows Rush calling Murtha a phony soldier, or the one showing Rush ‘edited’ the transcript? And which transcript are you referring to specifically – the real one, or the fake one Rush was caught posting?
October 1st, 2007 at 10:45 pmi am waiting for the personal insults since that is all you liberals ever do well
October 1st, 2007 at 10:46 pmbarfly,
October 1st, 2007 at 10:46 pmI listened to the show… the transcript was not altered. I am the witness.
Saying that Rush didn’t edit the transcript, after being shown clear evidence to the contrary, brands you as an idiot, Loan.
Comment by barfly — October 1, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
That’s not idiocy, that’s delusion. Only medication or a lobotomy could help a poor schlub like loaner.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:46 pmPlease come back to Iowa. For the most part civility is practiced here regardless of your politics. You should still look at the transcript – research is the foundation for education.
Comment by Iowa College Instructor
This doesn’t speak well for intellectual rigor in Iowa. Why would you ask me to read an edited transcript? It doesn’t prove your point.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:46 pmbarfly,
I listened to the show… the transcript was not altered. I am the witness.
Comment by Iowa College Instructor — October 1, 2007 @ 10:46 pm
You lie.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:47 pmyou obviously missed the actual video and I knew the personal criticisms would come because you have no other method of arguing
October 1st, 2007 at 10:47 pmyou obviously missed the actual video and I knew the personal criticisms would come because you have no other method of arguing
Comment by loangunman — October 1, 2007 @ 10:47 pm
Ironic coming from someone pushing an ‘altered’ transcript.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:48 pmTry as they might, the trolls cannot prove that Rush wasn’t referring to all the troops who disagreed.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:48 pmDude- you continue to prove my point Ryan. Instead of dealing with facts you choose personal attacks- i dont have to stoop to your level. can you offer anything of substance???????
October 1st, 2007 at 10:48 pmHow long will they continue to deny reality? Oh, I forgot about Iraq…
October 1st, 2007 at 10:50 pmOh…let me revise then, Barfly. “Because Bush has lied about so much, I obviously can’t trust him to tell us the truth about Iraq and so, only having him as the sole source of information on the subject, I cannot tell you what I will do.” I was wrong – you were a Kerry advisor.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:50 pmDude- you continue to prove my point Ryan. Instead of dealing with facts you choose personal attacks- i dont have to stoop to your level. can you offer anything of substance???????
Comment by loangunman — October 1, 2007 @ 10:48 pm
Dude- what I proved is that you’re a hypocrite that can’t tell the difference between a real transcript and an edited one. But nice passive aggressive personal attack on me, even though it’s just another hypocrisy example…
October 1st, 2007 at 10:51 pm“i dont have to stoop to your level. can you offer anything of substance???????”
Comment by loangunman
We know the transcripts were altered.
Disprove it if you can.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:51 pmi never blog just tired of the BS i see and they never have any argument other than attacking hey have an ex-wife and know what it’s like
October 1st, 2007 at 10:51 pmYou know loangunman, the video is here. And you might want to take an english course if comprehension remains a problem for you, son.
http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&fg=rss&vid=6090537a-9169-4400-9877-f075e9d594a9&from=34
October 1st, 2007 at 10:52 pmRyan- just chill out and get a real cause. My god man life is too short
October 1st, 2007 at 10:53 pmRyan, Ryan
You keep proving my point- you have nothing better to do than personal attacks. Do you practice all night in front of the mirror?
October 1st, 2007 at 10:54 pmi never blog just tired of the BS i see and they never have any argument other than attacking hey have an ex-wife and know what it’s like
Comment by loangunman — October 1, 2007 @ 10:51 pm
The problem is that you confuse your rantings as ‘arguing’, and ‘facts’ as people just arguing with you. No wonder you have an ex-wife, try joining reality son, and maybe they won’t kick you to the curb like some redneck piece of trash.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:54 pm“so, only having him as the sole source of information on the subject, I cannot tell you what I will do.”
It’s called buying a pig in a poke. Why would anyone, given Bush’s track record?
Like he’s just going to wake up tomorrow, and just start telling the truth.
Riiight.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:54 pm“We know the transcripts were altered.
Disprove it if you can.”
OK…Barfly ( and probably Ryan) are bulletproof when it comes to common sense. I’ve wasted enough time with them.
Hey, Barfly, we all know Hillary had Vince Foster killed. Disprove it if you can.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:54 pmRyan- just chill out and get a real cause. My god man life is too short
Comment by loangunman — October 1, 2007 @ 10:53 pm
Ah, but pointing out the compulsive lies of degenerate, losers and GOP rubes is so much fun!
October 1st, 2007 at 10:55 pmOK…Barfly ( and probably Ryan) are bulletproof when it comes to common sense. I’ve wasted enough time with them.
Hey, Barfly, we all know Hillary had Vince Foster killed. Disprove it if you can.
Comment by Law1 — October 1, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
Says the wingnut that’s bullet proof to reality, and videotapes and transcripts! You wingnuts crack me up!
October 1st, 2007 at 10:56 pmAmazingly the video you sent has been edited. Gosh what a surprise that MSNBC would do that. No way. Are you telling me that they are slanted against fair thinking gun loving Americans in order to promote their racist views. No way……who woulda thunk it??????
October 1st, 2007 at 10:56 pmYou people are pathetic; if you listen to the transcript you will see it is not altered–
October 1st, 2007 at 10:57 pmHey, Barfly, we all know Hillary had Vince Foster killed. Disprove it if you can.
Comment by Law1
Ah, the smell of cooked troll is making me hungry. When they start this stuff, you know they’re running on the fumes.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:57 pmYea…Rush and his 30 million listeners are in on the editing of the transcript. A tenth of the population in America have been convinced to lie about what they heard live to protect Rush….can anyone say left wing lunacy?
October 1st, 2007 at 10:58 pmRyan- you really haven’t a clue. You continue to lower yourself to personal attacks and call me redneck when in fact I am African American. Your racism has been exposed as well as assuming many things. Apologize as yes Santa there are black conservatives. Just ask Clarence Thomas.
October 1st, 2007 at 10:59 pmRyan?????
October 1st, 2007 at 11:00 pmOh Ryan????? Please tell me you are not a true racist
October 1st, 2007 at 11:01 pmRyan,
“wingnut” is not a derogatory term for Republican, you idiot. “Wingnut” is a nickname for an airmen in the US Air Force, (like a marine is “jarhead”) a member of the military that you ineptly argued for a few posts ago.
If you’re going to be an illogical ranter then at least get the terms right.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:02 pm“Rush and his 30 million listeners are in on the editing of the transcript. A tenth of the population in America have been convinced to lie about what they heard live to protect Rush.
Comment by scottked
They are synchophants, who railed against drug users with a passion not seen since the Inquisition – until Rush was revealed as a drug user. Then, it was ok.
You remind me of an old joke about a narcissist who contracts a fatal disease, and then says “well, on me it looks good!”
October 1st, 2007 at 11:03 pmRyan Ryan
Oh gosh you assume I didn’t know what wingnut meant- what a stretch how bout the following quote from you:
“The problem is that you confuse your rantings as ‘arguing’, and ‘facts’ as people just arguing with you. No wonder you have an ex-wife, try joining reality son, and maybe they won’t kick you to the curb like some redneck piece of trash.”
Tish tish- racist comment
October 1st, 2007 at 11:05 pmOh, Barfly, it only took turning the tables on you for you to see logic finally. See, you can’t disprove a negative as you kept asking us to do. There is hope for you yet. I’ll take your progress as a personal victory.
Of course Hillary didn’t have Vince killed. He committed suicide, which is, of course, what any sane person would do after seeing her naked.
(That was a joke, Ryan – don’t go to bed crying).
October 1st, 2007 at 11:05 pm“wingnut†is not a derogatory term for Republican, you idiot. ”
Um, yes it is. But continue…
October 1st, 2007 at 11:06 pmGood one- Law1
October 1st, 2007 at 11:06 pmAnd people wonder why congress approval ratings are so low. They are led by idiot democrats. Lets not forget about dingy harry and all his crap from the get go about how we would lose the war and blah blah blah, or Jacka** murtha stating he knew our marines murdered innocent civilians when in FACT they did not. He is now being sued and is trying to hide behind congressional privledge. Wait- this kind of privledge only applies to Dumocrats. I have a solution, all the libs just move to Iran, they will be much happier
October 1st, 2007 at 11:06 pm” it only took turning the tables on you for you to see logic finally. See, you can’t disprove a negative as you kept asking us to do. There is hope for you yet. I’ll take your progress as a personal victory.”
But it wasn’t a negative. Media Matters exposed the deceit.
You just continue to ignore reality.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:08 pmAnd they could all work for Halliburton in Baghdad
October 1st, 2007 at 11:08 pmGood one- Law1
Comment by loangunman
Let the circle jerk commence!
October 1st, 2007 at 11:08 pmMedia Matters- the Clinton propaganda machine- what a joke!!!!
October 1st, 2007 at 11:09 pmBarfly said “They are synchophants, who railed against drug users with a passion not seen since the Inquisition – until Rush was revealed as a drug user. Then, it was ok.” My brain is jello, jello, jello….-Barfly
October 1st, 2007 at 11:09 pmbarfly and Ryan- mini circle jerk- oh yes
October 1st, 2007 at 11:09 pmI have a solution, all the libs just move to Iran, they will be much happier
Comment by planter
Now, this demonstrates the weakness of conservative thought. Liberals are for liberalism – something that is anathema to the strict muslim way of life. Conservatives, on the other hand, love religious repression, so perhaps you should look into it yourself.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:12 pmYou….do…realize….Media Matters is financially backed by the Clinton political machine…Hello…McFly- is there anybody in there??????????
October 1st, 2007 at 11:12 pmSTOP!
How many of you actually listened to his whole radio program that day?
I would say maybe 5 so far that have posted.
As an avid Rush listener I can say listening to the radio program from start to finish from 11 AM to 2 PM central standard time, he talked about Jesse MacBeth. He then took a call from a person named Mike from Chicago. After Mike started arguing about why we should be out of Iraq, Mike decided then it was appropriate that he would suggest that he was a soldier. For everyone listening it was something that a person can say without having any proof to back them up. Knowing that they were never to be called on the fact. Rush then took a call from another caller named Mike, who as all soldiers do announce their station in the military. This is where they started talking about Jesse McBeth and calling people like Jesse McBeth, phoney soldiers because the left loves people that have something horrible to say about the military. The problem is they do not check their facts as in the Jesse MacBeth case. Live with it deal with it. To the left. You needs to open your sources of information beyond what the big 3 and all the left wing news papers have to say. George Soros has to much contol over your lives. To the right. It’s time to move on. Don’t respond. Don’t get sucked in. It’s not worth it. When you are viewed arguing with an idiot the lines between who is the idiot becomes blurred. It’s time to go on to more important things like making sure everyone who votes is a who they say they are. Good luck and God speed.
To all who post after. Listen and learn. To all those who posted before, you spoke to soon.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:13 pm“Media Matters is financially backed by the Clinton political machine…”
And Rush called soldiers in the field “phonies.”
October 1st, 2007 at 11:14 pmAnd the score is:
WHACKOS (emphasis on WHACK) 100
BARFRYAN 0
October 1st, 2007 at 11:14 pmComment by omahawi —
I listened to it – and you’re wrong.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:15 pmThe left doesnt want to report because it exposes them- good point omahawi
October 1st, 2007 at 11:15 pmBARFRYAN 0
Comment by roboright
There’s the unoriginal hack I’ve come to know…
October 1st, 2007 at 11:16 pmbarfly- go order another one
October 1st, 2007 at 11:16 pmAs I said. Don’t argue with idiots. =)
October 1st, 2007 at 11:17 pmWho is Tom Harkins???, Is he the one who endorsed screaming Howard Dean for President.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:17 pmAs usual- a comment with nothing to back it up- like ….uh….facts barfly…………waiting for some…waiting……waiting……….and so on
October 1st, 2007 at 11:17 pmThe left doesnt want to report because it exposes them- good point omahawi
Comment by loangunman
I hope you’re using some protection, like a rubber glove. You never know where omahawi has been sticking that thing…
October 1st, 2007 at 11:18 pmBottom line- liberals can’t deal with facts- cause they lose- every time
They only revert to personal attacks. it’s all they can do since facts on not on their side. Sort of pathetic actually…….
October 1st, 2007 at 11:19 pm“Don’t argue with idiots. =)”
Comment by omahawi
Ok, I’ll leave you alone.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:19 pmActually Demcrats include one only need to look at Obama, Hillary and Biden on the Move.on.org ad trashing Gen. Petraeus.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:20 pmWow- barfly you continue to prove my point. Very witty- you watch the late show with Sean Penn. He is Sooo funny
October 1st, 2007 at 11:21 pmWhat’s pathetic is a bunch of losers wasting time showing their ignorance and hypocrisy – like you guys.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:21 pmLiberalism must be genetic disorder…when there is a gene pool the size of the US, there are bound to be some from the shallow end of the gene pool…
October 1st, 2007 at 11:22 pmActually Demcrats include one only need to look at Obama, Hillary and Biden on the Move.on.org ad trashing Gen. Petraeus.
Comment by RichardNH
Good Oxycontin? Try again.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:22 pmBarfly have you made a single post dealing with issues or have you just insulted everyone who disagrees with you. It isn’t really even witty insults dude. You need to hone your skills and deal with facts as well. Still waiting on some facts not personal attacks…waiting…..waiting…waiting…..
October 1st, 2007 at 11:22 pmIf this a stunt to make the public forget about Gen. Petraeous the Left has failed. Now they look even more stupid because they’ve made a hero out of this idiot Jessie Macbeth. The sheer audacity of Reid, Harken and Kerry makes one’s blood boil. This will come back to haunt them because Rush will become even more popular and powerful.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:23 pmagain reference to drugs that have no bearing at all…..waiting…waiting..waiting…
October 1st, 2007 at 11:23 pmNo one needs to defend Rush. At this point, it’s a matter of public record and the truth has been exposed. However, this debacle is yet another great example of the dem meltdown that is taking place before our eyes. I’m no fan of the pubs, but they’re starting to smell like roses as each day goes by while the dems continue to use fascist tactics to shudder their enemies into silence.
The economy is booming and we’re making progress in Iraq. The Dems would prefer that we pull out of Iraq instead of cleaning up Bush’s mess even if that means millions of people from the middle east have to die. How “progressive”. These are the same kind of “progressives” who promoted eugenics and social darwinism, which Hitler ran with and made into his very own Final Solution. “He who knows only his own generation remains aleways a child”. And there’s quite a few children on this site.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:24 pm“there are bound to be some from the shallow end of the gene pool…”
Comment by scottked —
And hackneyed cliches abound. If you ever had an original thought, it died of loneliness.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:24 pmwaiting…waiting for some facts from barfly…waiting…….
October 1st, 2007 at 11:24 pmYou see when challenged for facts and NOT personal attacks, liberals have nothing to say…not surprised
October 1st, 2007 at 11:25 pmStill waiting on some facts not personal attacks…waiting…..waiting…waiting…..
Comment by loangunman
Rush was caught altering his transcripts. Deal with it.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:26 pmFacts please- you know this how???? Not speculation…waiting..waiting…waiting…..
October 1st, 2007 at 11:27 pmMaybe throw in a personal attack in the meantime while you research
October 1st, 2007 at 11:28 pmyeah- that’s what I thought- no reply
October 1st, 2007 at 11:28 pm“If you ever had an original thought, it died of loneliness”….And hackneyed cliches abound?
October 1st, 2007 at 11:29 pmWell, my job as troll flypaper is about done. Thanks for wasting your time here, and not trashing the other threads with idiotic assertions and comments.
And please tip your waitress…
October 1st, 2007 at 11:30 pmThere’s the unoriginal hack I’ve come to know…
Comment by barfly — October 1, 2007 @ 11:16 pm
That’s WHACK not hack sissypants…and it appears you know it well.
Indeed there’s nothing as unoriginal as the truth, eh Barf-lie? (See #244)
Where’s all the other TPer’s? Are you the only one holding the fort (aka mommie’s basement) tonight?
October 1st, 2007 at 11:31 pmAs I thought- no facts and some sort of reference to trolls and I always tip well, unlike liberals.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:32 pmMaybe throw in a personal attack in the meantime while you research
Comment by loangunman — October 1, 2007 @ 11:28 pm
We supplied the link to the video, just because you’re too ignorant to know how to use the interTUBES, don’t blame us, loser boy.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:32 pmEveryone who thinks Rush is an A@@hole, your right. That is why 25,000,000 million people listen to him daily. Or wait, is it the fact that he is entertaining and 99.5 percent of the time can predict what a politician contender is going to do before they do it. I don’t listen to him because I agree with him ideologically. I listen to him because he can tell me what I don’t know. What everyone “lib” on here does is quote from the small portions of text that they see or hear on the big 3. If anybody really wants it. I have a subscription to Rush 24/7 that my parents got me. If you want the whole audio show let me know. I’m sure Rush wouldn’t mind me giving the show out as a freebie.
You can bend it and twist it, you can misuse it and abuse it, but even GOD cannot change the trust.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:35 pmBarfly expresses the frustration that the rest of us usually, just swallow! While no one wants to resort to name calling, it is difficult to avoid stereotyping those who make the predictable drones over troop withdrawal…
What American “likes” the idea of being in a state of armed conflict with anyone…? Very few I’m sure. However, those of us are concerned about the future of free choices including the “gay-abortions-anti-war” crowd, is well represented on this site, are actually willing to make an effort protect our families and ways of life.
To your dismay, Rush gives voice to our traditional values in a way that urks you and your ilk…unfortunately, the “Reid Clans” are now asking us to not believe our own ears, and adopt their fantasies…of what someone said. This take complete idiocy to a grand, new level. Only one who is himself on some mind-altering substance might expect us to do anything other than laugh at him..and his minions.
What a total joke!
October 1st, 2007 at 11:35 pmAs I thought- no facts and some sort of reference to trolls and I always tip well, unlike liberals.
Comment by loangunman — October 1, 2007 @ 11:32 pm
The facts are Rush insulted our men and women in uniform, he was caught on tape, then he lied and altered his own transcript, and was caught doing that, then in his defense he slandered a Congressperson with the same insult.
You being impervious to facts, doesn’t change their existence, it only indicates the poor state of your mental health. Obviously the divorce, and you being kicked to the curb was as hard on you, as Rush’s 3 cases of marriage failure were. Don’t blame yourself, we’re sure it wasn’t your fault – cough.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:35 pmHey Ryan, good to have you back, man.
It’s just like old times, tag-teaming these dolts.
You might not remember, as I used a different handle back then.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:35 pmRyan, did it take you this long to think of your own petty insult- critiqing my mental health, past marriage and then lie about what I heard in terms of what Rush said. Again you prove my point and say nothing factual and attack me- cough. Sorry that was a real cough caught live on this site and then expect anyone to take you serious. Look up hypocrite in the dictionary and come back and see me then……buh bye
October 1st, 2007 at 11:39 pmI’ve got a good idea. Why don’t all of you Republicans who are so fond of suggesting Democrats move to another country, go fight this war you so love. My kids aren’t going and if you want to waste the lives of your kids fighting a futile fight, please go ahead. And all you people so busy praising the great General Pet, aren’t you the same folks who praised General Powell when he stood in front of the world and lied us into this war? As for the low approval rating of Congress, you dolts, it’s because they won’t take the troops out of Iraq! So they can either raise their rating by ending this war or keep it low by continuing to support it. Tell me, which choice would you have them make?
October 1st, 2007 at 11:40 pmTo your dismay, Rush gives voice to our traditional values in a way that urks you and your ilk…
“Traditional values” – like taking sex-excursions to third-world countries?
Or bashing drug users while using drugs?
Wouldn’t he be more at home living in San Francisco?
October 1st, 2007 at 11:40 pmAh, shaw, roboright and loangunmen, more troop hating wingnuts that will permit one of their own partisan hacks to slander the military as long as it suits their needs.
No wonder these hypocrites are looking at the worst defeat for the GOP in a century, thanks to their behavior! Without wingnuts like you, 2008 will not be such a great year for liberals! You remind the country why poll after poll prefers liberal values and liberal politicians! Thanks for all of the help – useful idiots!
October 1st, 2007 at 11:40 pmI have not yet heard a blog from the circle jerk duo that was factual and still I wait- yet all I get is petty personal attacks- gosh- it hurts- oh I am in pain….ouch….waiting on fact still waiting………you two are pathetic
October 1st, 2007 at 11:40 pmJust agree when they attack you personally and bring it back to the subject at hand. I listened to the program that day. I told you exactly the call scenario and offered to give you the show from my own computer. Do you want reality or do you want to keep dodging it for as long as you live?
Ignorance is bliss, but someday it will get you killed. Have a nice day.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:42 pmyou two are pathetic
Comment by loangunman — October 1, 2007 @ 11:40 pm
Again with the personal insults? Is that all you’ve got?
October 1st, 2007 at 11:42 pmbreaking…
while speaking at the YearlyKos convention in Chicago, Hillary Rodham Clinton boasted of “institutions that I helped to start and support like Media Matters and Center for American Progress.”
Video here (facts regurgitated at 2:20) >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbzC6-N9mwM
October 1st, 2007 at 11:43 pmI dont stoop to the racist comments you have slung- sorry cant stoop that low- remember you called me redneck
October 1st, 2007 at 11:44 pmDo you have something against African American conservatives???????
October 1st, 2007 at 11:45 pmHey Ryan and Barfly,
October 1st, 2007 at 11:45 pmIf Rush altered his transcripts like you say, you must have proof..would you be so kind as to link to the “real” transcript for us all and end this debate?
Ryan, did it take you this long to think of your own petty insult Comment by loangunman — October 1, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
You seem to find everything insulting, except the insults of Rush, how funny!
- critiqing my mental health, Comment by loangunman — October 1, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
Well, that’s not difficult.
past marriage Comment by loangunman — October 1, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
You brought up the topic, and exposed what a loser you were for picking such a bad choice in partners, and then being such a wanker that it all fell apart. Don’t blame me, it’s all you son.
and then lie about what I heard in terms of what Rush said. Comment by loangunman — October 1, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
Hehe, says the wingnut that is lying, to the person that posted the link to the actual video! And you wonder why people critique your mental health ;)
Again you prove my point and say nothing factual and attack me- cough. Sorry that was a real cough caught live on this site and then expect anyone to take you serious. Look up hypocrite in the dictionary and come back and see me then……buh bye
Comment by loangunman — October 1, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
Says the wingnut attacking me falsely, while ignoring the video containing the facts you so desperately seek to avoid. Once again, you wonder why others critique your mental health – bet your ex-wife never did that! That’s right, it’s all our fault that you’re crazy – that’s right! ;)
October 1st, 2007 at 11:46 pmI am just waiting for Rush’s inevitable apology. He knows his sponsors will be leaving, the longer this drags out. Then we’ll have fun listening to the synchophants squeal, when he double-crosses them. It’s coming, guys. He might have a lot of listeners, but his sponsors will fold.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:46 pmThey won’t answer- they are still trying to figure out how not to be racist after everything they called me
October 1st, 2007 at 11:47 pmSo how far does George Soros have his had up every liberals back? I’ll tell you. So far that he can give you the middle finger while they are talking to you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth
October 1st, 2007 at 11:47 pmHey Ryan and Barfly,
If Rush altered his transcripts like you say, you must have proof..would you be so kind as to link to the “real†transcript for us all and end this debate?
Comment by scottked — October 1, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
The real transcript is all over the internet, as is the video (I linked to it), and you can cross reference it to the video. Not that you’ll have the b*lls to do it though ;)
October 1st, 2007 at 11:47 pmYeah- they sure have abandoned him so far after 18 years- yeah Barfly you should be called nostrodamus in another life…hehehe
October 1st, 2007 at 11:47 pmWhat ever happened to Don Imus?
Is he still broadcasting?
This was Rush’s Imus moment.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:49 pmUm, loangunman? I think you probably meant to spell it, lonegunman.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:49 pmLoangunman, I guess, means a gunman on loan. If you can’t even spell
your own name correctly why would anyone pay attention to your
ramblings?
That’s all this is about- bringing down Rush- guess what- liberal losers- aint gonna happen. Nice try- as usual it wont work but nice try- keep trying and wasting your time on this- it’s fun to watch you fail again and again
October 1st, 2007 at 11:49 pmImus was about as popular – until his sponsors folded.
Rush is next.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:50 pmRyan,
October 1st, 2007 at 11:51 pmWould you mind linking again, I can’t seem to find your link in any previous post. Thanks.
Davidknows- good to see another liberal that has nothing better to do than have personal attacks- guess what- I dont care- give me some facts and we can have a good ol real dialog- attack me or anyone else and that prewtty sums up your charachter
October 1st, 2007 at 11:51 pmYou thing Imus is the same as Rush- your ignorance speaks volumes
October 1st, 2007 at 11:52 pmComment by loangunman
Hold tight to that belief. And start looking for an alternative, after Rush gets flushed.
Maybe Malkin? She’s about as toxic as Rush.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:53 pmMake you a bet- Rush will be on the air in a year and still have 10 times the listeners that CNN has viewers. On every show- just like now. Easy money- thanks for giving me the cash in advance. $100,000.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:54 pmPut your money where your mouth is- or shut up
waiting…waiting…waiting……
October 1st, 2007 at 11:55 pmwell???
October 1st, 2007 at 11:55 pmno guts no glory
October 1st, 2007 at 11:55 pmI really don’t care about what the politics or facts are surrounding why Senator Harkin said what he said. I am one of the folks that he is supposed to represent. I am embrassed by Mr. Harkins behavior. Please do not judge Iowa, or Iowans by the poor character shown by Mr. Harkin. The senate floor is not the place to take a cheap shot at a recovering addict, and if someone is going to do such a thing, it should not be an Iowan.
If you are from Iowa, please contact Mr. Harkin and explain that this is no way to behave as our representative, and ask him to publicly apologize for this behavior. We have enough problems with partisans putting politics above decency (as evidenced by almost all of the comments above) without having senators engaging in this this type of filth. How can I ask my children to respect our government when the people that we (Iowans) send to Washington act in a way that would get then grounded? How have we gone so far that adults are cheering for this type of behavior, as if the floor of the senate were nothing but a pro wrestling show?
October 1st, 2007 at 11:56 pmOr would you prefer to just attack me personally again since that is all you have
October 1st, 2007 at 11:56 pmRush insulted troops in the field – only a fool would think there will be no adverse consequences.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:56 pmYou bring up a great point. It’s not the outcome of the matter, it’s in the media’s mind the “Seriousness of the charge”
To everyone that doesn’t like Rush it doesn’t matter what the facts in the end say. It’s that someone said he was giving crap to soldiers. Listen to the show more then a day and you will know this man care about every soldier in the field. He care about every soldier that has ever defended our nation. He care more then all democrats combined about the successful outcome of the conflict at hand. To questions this mans sincerity and belief in our troops no matter what they say about their present situation is ridiculous. You have no moral high ground to stand on. You salivate at anything that may bring down someone who doesn’t believe in what you believe. You preach tolerance when you don’t practice it. May God truely save your soul because you never will.
I don’t have a quote beucase some people are turely beyond them.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:57 pmThe facts are Rush insulted our men and women in uniform, he was caught on tape…sez tag teamers Barfryin
Howz about “the facts” of Jean Le Kerry (our troops are terrorizing Iraqi civillians in the night), Little Dick Turban (troops are like Pol Pot, SS, etc) and Hairy Greed (We’ve freakin LOST) ?
The only tag teaming you two do is at the Rotten Banana after hours.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:57 pm“Or would you prefer to just attack me personally again since that is all you have”
Comment by loangunman
You keep egging us to insult you – you just might have masochistic tendencies.
Too bad I’m a sadist, and won’t indulge you…
October 1st, 2007 at 11:59 pmYes- I have listened since ‘94 and anyone who thinks he doesnt care about the military and individual soldiers simply is ignorant or has an agenda against him or the right. Don’t embarrass yourself those of you who cast stones and live in glass houses.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:59 pmI still can’t seem to find the “before edited” version of Rush’s transcript where he supposedly called all military personnel “Phoney” maybe either Ryan or Barfly can link to it for all of us.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:02 amSo witty- do you go to amateur night at the improv Bar Fly
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:02 amLoangunman, the problem with conservatives is that you can’t deal with the facts. What facts do you want? Limbaugh castigated drug users until he was revealed to be an addict? Limbaugh hung up on a man who claimed to be a Republican against the war because Republicans are not permitted to be against the war? Limbaugh has consistantly attacked military veterans who are against this war? American Conservative magazine in its new issue calls General Pet a Syncophant Savior and accuses him of being a tool of the White House? When General Schinsecki — correctly — disagreed with the neocon strategy of committing limited troops to Iraq he was fired? That in 1998 the neocon Project for the New American Century — Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle et al — wrote that Hussein would be replaced if there is “A new Pearl Harbor?” Tell me, loangunman, want more facts. Please tell me — factually — where one of these statements is wrong.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:02 amno they cant- cause them are hypocrites
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:02 am“Listen to the show more then a day and you will know this man care about every soldier in the field.”
What he cares about is market share, including the military. Anything he’s done can be attributed to his desire to increase his own standing. And that includes donating money – to assure that he keeps his sweetheart broadcast deal with the military.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:03 amWow! Reid and Harkin really showed a lot of guts by going on the Senate floor with this unwarrented attack on a private American citizen. Just another political stunt by a couple of career politicians who never held a real job in their lives. They should take up the challenge from Mr Limbaugh and make their slimey comments to his face! Dingy and Dung…..be men and make your comments in the public arena, not in the protection of your cozy clubhouse called the “Senate floor” You guys are “one sick human beings!”
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:03 amiowafalcon, Thank you. You truly show that when it comes down to it, it’s not you or I. It’s not Rush or Al Frankin. It’s the person that we elected to act in a “professional” manner. To act with tack. We may not think the decision is great but half of diplomacy is treating the other side with some sort of respect even if you disagree. Unfortunately when the first stone is cast, duck and cover.
Hatred blinds people to the reality that stares them in the face.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:05 amLike the Left has ANY room to talk about Rush disrespecting the troops (of which Rush did NOT do). The Left has bashed the troops practically daily since this war began ALONG WITH leaders ON THE LEFT!
Do you recall what John Murtha has said, just to name one? For someone who is an ex-military man and who’s brothers and sisters are out there fighting, he should be ashamed of himself!!!! Dick Durbin is another who was way out of line by his comments directed at the military. It is people like them, from the Left, that is making this war harder to win by giving COMFORT AND AID to the enemy.
If you have ever listened to Rush, you would know that he has respect for every man and woman serving our country. This is just your weak attempt to spread propaganda when you have NOTHING substantive to contribute.
I really liked Harry Reid OF ALL PEOPLE criticizing Rush for his anti-military comment(s). LOL!
Is he getting Rush confused with his own Party?
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:05 am“Wow! Reid and Harkin really showed a lot of guts by going on the Senate floor with this unwarrented attack on a private American citizen.”
MoveOn is comprised of private American citizens as well. Your assertion is weak.
But Rush isn’t a private citizen – he’s a media personality.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:06 amHey Fryin
Checked out yer link at MSLSD–didn’t prove squat junior.
Keep wishin and fishin.
See ya at the “club” Barf-lie.
Gota “pull out” now and go listen to the Great One, Mark Levin.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:07 amHey, here’s an idea for you “support the military” dems…support the military..win the war!
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:08 am“To act with tack. We may not think the decision is great but half of diplomacy is treating the other side with some sort of respect even if you disagree. Unfortunately when the first stone is cast, duck and cover.
Hatred blinds people to the reality that stares them in the face.”
Comment by omahawi
That’s rich.
What about the condemnation of MoveOn? How many “respected politicians” decided to smear them?
Your political myopia is quite acute.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:09 am“Hey, here’s an idea for you “support the military†dems…support the military..win the Iraqi civil war!”
Comment by scottked
Fixed it for you.
But how do we do that?
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:11 amOh no- Rush hung up on a caller. He should be hanged. Damn ye… ye talk show host. Please also give dates and direct quotes about when Rush castigated drug users- oh you cant???What do you mean it really didnt happen????? Rush has spoke out against Murtha and Kerry both war vets and anti-war liars- charges brought by veterans and current war heroes. What does a conservative magazine have to do with Rush and just how out of context are you taking it. Please quote or do you not have the balls to do so young man. I will wait for you to quote but you won’t as you have no fact except for naming magazines and no quotes from within. You are a joke when it comes to being factual. Please expand on the lies if you like but include actual quotes, dates and sources instead of the usual neocon conspiracy drivel……..waiting….waiting…waiting
Liberal Liar wrote:
Loangunman, the problem with conservatives is that you can’t deal with the facts. What facts do you want? Limbaugh castigated drug users until he was revealed to be an addict? Limbaugh hung up on a man who claimed to be a Republican against the war because Republicans are not permitted to be against the war? Limbaugh has consistantly attacked military veterans who are against this war? American Conservative magazine in its new issue calls General Pet a Syncophant Savior and accuses him of being a tool of the White House? When General Schinsecki — correctly — disagreed with the neocon strategy of committing limited troops to Iraq he was fired? That in 1998 the neocon Project for the New American Century — Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle et al — wrote that Hussein would be replaced if there is “A new Pearl Harbor?†Tell me, loangunman, want more facts. Please tell me — factually — where one of these statements is wrong.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:11 amUnfortunately, I had to join this group in order to comment.
I’m a Vietnam Vet. We Vets have been fighting a non-stop battle against those we call “wannabes.” They are those who falsely claim to have been in Vietnam, in whatever capacity they choose, usually claiming various unearned medals and ribbons. There are many of them out there still and we continue to “out” them as fast as we find them.
Each military group has their database of names of past members that they use to check on claims of authenticity. The SEALS know everyone who was a SEAL , as do the RANGERs and Special Forces. Many units know exactly who served and when they served.
Most VN Vets can listen to someone talking about being a Vet and most of the time pick up by the “Vet Speak” whether or not they had really been there.
I believe that the same can be said for the returning Vets of Iraq and Afghanistan. Fakes can be spotted, not always, and not usually by those who never went, but they can be found out.
This guy that Rush was talking about never even made it out of the country. He didn’t finish “basic training”, which is what it was called in the Army. The Marines and Navy have “boot camp.”
I was drafted and knew of guys who were kicked out of Basic Training because they couldn’t take it. Whether it was the discipline, the food, the stress, or homesickness, they never made it through. This “phoney soldier” is exactly what Rush was talking about.
I believe it was Kerry who spoke of atrocities that supposedly happened when he was in Vietnam that he really only picked up second-hand from others when he made his accusatory remarks about the military in Vietnam.
The account coming from this “phoney” sounds all to familiar and very similar to what Kerry falsely claimed.
BTW, you guys all need to proof your comments before you post them. The grammar and spelling is atrocious.
“doc”
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:12 amCo D, 2/502′d Inf, 101st Airborne Div RVN ‘71.
“Liberal Liar wrote:”
So much for you civil tone.
You’re a hypocrite, just like Rush. Is that why you like him?
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:14 amBarfly,Davidknows and Ryan,
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:16 amWaiting on your proof (since you are sure Rush edited his transcript) of your position? Where is it?
Thanks Doc. Spell check is on and appreciate your comments from a true veteran on the site.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:16 amBar fly. I only speak facts and you lie. That’s the fact Jack
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:17 amYour long post can be boiled down to this bullshit:
“I believe it was Kerry who spoke of atrocities that supposedly happened when he was in Vietnam that he really only picked up second-hand from others when he made his accusatory remarks about the military in Vietnam.”
He was talking about free fire zones – something you’d know about if you were ever in Vietnam. He also said that he himself had engaged in free fire, not second-hand. Your assertion is crap. Try again.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:17 amUnlike you Barfly,
I don’t comment on your marital situation or race, just political views.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:18 amWhy does anyone listen to Barfly the anti-american, racist liberal???
You just trashed a war hero . Have you no shame???
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:20 am“I only speak facts and you lie. That’s the fact Jack”
Comment by loangunman
Sung to the tune of Jackson Browne’s “Runnin’ on Empty.”
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:20 amUnlike you Barfly,
I don’t comment on your marital situation or race, just political views.
Comment by loangunman — October 2, 2007 @ 12:18 am
Says the lying hypocrite that compared me to his ex-wife. I’m sure you were always wrong when you argued with her as well, easy to see why you’re divorced ;)
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:20 amYou have something against African Americans Barfly???
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:20 amYou just trashed a war hero . Have you no shame???
Comment by loangunman
Um, no. – unless you know him personally?
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:21 amWhy does anyone listen to Barfly the anti-american, racist liberal???
You just trashed a war hero . Have you no shame???
Comment by loangunman — October 2, 2007 @ 12:20 am
Ironic coming from the wingnut that’s defending rush for trashing a war hero… Ah, GOP hypocrisy, just another toe tapping experience!
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:21 amOh wait the other racist hypocrite is here- Ryan. Missed ya. Did it take you an hour to think up that snazzy display of wit?
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:21 am“Unfortunately, I had to join this group in order to comment.”
Amen to that and everything else you wrote, doc.
God Bless you and goodnight.
The cavalry (Airborne) has arrived.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:22 amBarfly,Davidknows and Ryan,
Waiting on your proof (since you are sure Rush edited his transcript) of your position? Where is it?
Comment by scottked — October 2, 2007 @ 12:16 am
Waiting on you to explain to us why you don’t already know this, yet you feel so educated on the topic you feel qualified to debate!!!!
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:22 am“docâ€
Co D, 2/502′d Inf, 101st Airborne Div RVN ‘71.
I don’t want to put anything more then this.
Thank you from everyone in here. Even if they disagree.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:22 amProps to Gore–el padron del internet has provided us with the medium to expose liberal bias once and for all…
Bite it, Reid et al!
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:23 amOh wait the other racist hypocrite is here- Ryan. Missed ya. Did it take you an hour to think up that snazzy display of wit?
Comment by loangunman — October 2, 2007 @ 12:21 am
Race? When did I ever discuss race? As for hypocrisy, he, funny coming from you. You poor little challenged boy.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:23 am“Barfly the anti-american, racist liberal???”
If you try hard enough, you could probably shoehorn a couple more insults in there.
And it really hurts! (snerk!)
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:24 amProps to Gore–el padron del internet has provided us with the medium to expose liberal bias once and for all…
Bite it, Reid et al!
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 12:23 am
You’re right, reality does have a liberal bias, and the internet exposes it well! That’s why cowards like you are running, when people like Reid catch you in your own hypocrisy!
As for Al and the Internet, you do realize he authored the legislation that created the ‘internet’, right? Poor ignorant little boy.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:25 amIf you try hard enough, you could probably shoehorn a couple more insults in there.
And it really hurts! (snerk!)
Comment by barfly — October 2, 2007 @ 12:24 am
And all of that from the wingnut that ‘never’ insults others! ;)
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:25 amInsults- and no facts- c’mon you ‘boys’ can do better than that. How many times do you need to be proven wrong before you get it. You are a hopeless cause.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:25 amAnd then he follows it up with this:
“Insults- and no facts- c’mon you ‘boys’ can do better than that. How many times do you need to be proven wrong before you get it. You are a hopeless cause.”
Oh, irony!
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:28 amI believe it was Kerry who spoke of atrocities that supposedly happened when he was in Vietnam that he really only picked up second-hand from others when he made his accusatory remarks about the military in Vietnam. Comment by yeahlo sno — October 2, 2007 @ 12:12 am
Actually he was asked to testify in congress about what others had told him, some of which have come to be known to be true (Mai Lai). What, would you prefer he lie, like those at Haditha did? Is that ‘honor’ in your book – dishonesty?
The account coming from this “phoney†sounds all to familiar and very similar to what Kerry falsely claimed. Comment by yeahlo sno — October 2, 2007 @ 12:12 am
Actually Kerry never claimed to see those things, and was very clear about that fact – the phony is you for smearing him!
BTW, you guys all need to proof your comments before you post them. The grammar and spelling is atrocious.
“docâ€
Co D, 2/502′d Inf, 101st Airborne Div RVN ‘71.
Comment by yeahlo sno — October 2, 2007 @ 12:12 am
Ironic sentence structure for someone criticizing the grammar of others! As for proof, your smear of Kerry makes you a real hypocrite!
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:28 amInsults- and no facts- c’mon you ‘boys’ can do better than that. How many times do you need to be proven wrong before you get it. You are a hopeless cause.
Comment by loangunman — October 2, 2007 @ 12:25 am
Yes wwallace, you are the poster of insults without facts. We all know that, as well as understanding that you’re a hopeless cause, and abusive troll…
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:29 amOur county is divided by those who feel we are great and those who loathe us. Those who understand believe that freedom is not free and it is not only for we fortunate ones. It is for everyone on this earth. We are all created equal regardless by creed or color. We are men and women who understand the cause of our greatest. We understand that it is a free man or women who propels our county with great ideas. Understand that our world is governed by the aggressive use of force. We use this force not to oppress or enslave, but to free and educate. We understand that to free others is to grant our security for not only our future but the worlds. We understand that others may not agree but we will allow them to speak. They are given that right by those who have served, are serving or have died for it. We understand that unfortunately some will never understand. We are all created equal and it’s time to free everyone else and stop keeping this great toy called freedom to ourselves. Share and share alike.
Good luck, Good speed, Good night.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:30 amHere’s some of the Limbaugh edits.
[begin audio clip]
LIMBAUGH: I — it’s not possible, intellectually, to follow these people.
CALLER 2: No, it’s not, and what’s really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.
LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.
CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they’re willing to sacrifice for their country.
LIMBAUGH: They joined to be in Iraq. They joined –
CALLER 2: A lot of them — the new kids, yeah.
LIMBAUGH: Well, you –
[begin Limbaugh edit]
LIMBAUGH: — know where you’re going these days, the last four years, if you signed up. The odds are you’re going there or Afghanistan or somewhere.
CALLER 2: Exactly, sir. And, and my other comment was — and the reason I was calling for — was to report to Jill about the fact that we didn’t, didn’t find any weapons of mass destruction. Actually, we have found weapons of mass destruction in chemical agents that [inaudible] been using against us for awhile now.
I’ve done two tours in Iraq. I just got back in June and there were many instances of — since [inaudible] not know what they’re using in their IEDs [improvised explosive devices]. They’re using mustard artillery rounds. The VX artillery rounds in their IEDs.
Because they didn’t know what they were using, they didn’t do it right, and so it just kind of — it, it didn’t really hurt anybody but there are — those munitions are over there, it’s just — it’s a huge desert. If they’ve buried it somewhere, we’re never gonna find it.
LIMBAUGH: Well, you know, that’s a moot point for me right now –
MIKE: Rush –
LIMBAUGH: — the weapons of mass destruction. We gotta get beyond that. We’re, we’re there. What — who cares if, if — we all know they were there and, and Mahmoud [Ahmadinejad, Iranian president] even admitted it in one of his speeches here about — talkin’ about Saddam using the poison mustard gas or whatever it is on his own people — but that, that’s moot, right? What, what’s more important is all this is taking place now in the midst of the surge working.
And all of these anti-war Democrats are getting even more hell-bent on pulling out of there, which means that success on the part of you and, and your colleagues over there is, is a great threat to them.
[end Limbaugh edit]
LIMBAUGH: It’s just, it’s frustrating and maddening, and it is why they must be kept in the minority.
Look, I want to thank you, Mike, for calling. I appreciate it very much. I gotta — let me see — got something — here is a “Morning Update” that we did recently talking about fake soldiers. This is a story of who the left props up as heroes. And they have their celebrities.
One of them was Jesse MacBeth. Now, he was a “corporal,” I say in quotes — 23 years old.
[reading from "Morning Update" (subscription required)]
What made Jesse MacBeth a hero to the anti-war crowd wasn’t his Purple Heart. It wasn’t his being affiliated with post traumatic stress disorder from tours in Afghanistan and Iraq, though. What made Jesse MacBeth, Army Ranger, a hero to the left was his courage in their view off the battlefield.
Without regard to consequences, he told the world the abuses he had witnessed in Iraq: American soldiers killing unarmed civilians, hundreds of men, women, even children. In one gruesome account translated into Arabic and spread widely across the internet, Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth describes the horrors this way:
‘We would burn their bodies. We would hang their bodies from the rafters in the mosque.’
Now, recently, Jesse MacBeth, a poster boy for the anti-war left, had his day in court, and you know what? He was sentenced to five months in jail and three years probation for falsifying a Department of Veterans Affairs’ claim and his Army discharge record.
He was in the Army. Jesse MacBeth was in the Army, folks, briefly — 44-days before he washed out of boot camp. Jesse MacBeth isn’t an Army Ranger. Never was. He isn’t a corporal. Never was. He never won the Purple Heart and he was never in combat to witness the horrors he claimed to have seen.”
You probably haven’t even heard about this, and if you have, you haven’t heard much about it. This doesn’t fit the narrative and the template of the drive-by media and the Democrat [sic] Party as to who a genuine war hero is.
Don’t look for any retractions, by the way, not from the anti-war left, the anti-military drive-by media or the Arabic websites that spread Jesse MacBeth’s lies about our troops, because the truth of the left is fiction, is what serves their purpose. They have to lie about such atrocities ’cause they can’t find any that fit the template of the way they see the U.S. military.
In other words, for the American anti-war left, the greatest inconvenience they face is the truth.
[end audio clip]
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:31 am“Waiting on you to explain to us why you don’t already know this, yet you feel so educated on the topic you feel qualified to debate!!!!”
…still no proof. No link. No transcript. No nothing…of course the truth is nothing but an problem for the libs…
“If you want to piss off a conservative, tell him a lie. if you want to piss off a liberal, tell him the truth..”
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:31 amIt’s been great destroying liberal arguments and the hypocrisy within. I just wanted facts and as anyone can see, not only did I only get insults instead and personal attacks, they were weak ones at that. When I asked for facts, I just got more insults and then a Vietnam Vet chimed in, Barfly and his liberal buddies trashed his patriotism. Why am I not surprised? Again, I want to deal with facts and get nothing but hyperbole. Yes- look that one up libs. It’s next to “hypocrite” in the dictionary. You can relate.
Buh bye and it’s nice to once again be victorious.
-THE Loangunman
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:31 amYeah, there’s no smear of a war hero here…
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:32 am
“Comment by yeahlo sno”
A sample of conservative wit? No wonder the 1/2 Hour Comedy Hour folded.
Some folks never truly leave junior high…
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:32 amIt’s been great destroying liberal arguments and the hypocrisy within.Comment by loangunman — October 2, 2007 @ 12:31 am
Sure brownie, you’ve done a heckuva job ;)
I just wanted facts and as anyone can see, not only did I only get insults instead and personal attacks, they were weak ones at that. Comment by loangunman — October 2, 2007 @ 12:31 am
Says the insulting person that compared me to his ex-wife. Weak indeed!
When I asked for facts, I just got more insults and then a Vietnam Vet chimed in, Barfly and his liberal buddies trashed his patriotism. Comment by loangunman — October 2, 2007 @ 12:31 am
Patriotism? BAHAHA, you’re such a sad little liar wwallace…
As for facts, you ignored them all, son. Explains the EX in ex-wife.
Why am I not surprised? Again, I want to deal with facts and get nothing but hyperbole. Yes- look that one up libs. It’s next to “hypocrite†in the dictionary. You can relate.
Buh bye and it’s nice to once again be victorious.
-THE Loangunman
Comment by loangunman — October 2, 2007 @ 12:31 am
If the game is ‘the biggest loser’, yep, the victory is all yours!
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:35 am“Buh bye and it’s nice to once again be victorious.”
Taking a victory lap before the race is over?
Did you also proclaim yourself winner after getting your ass whipped in school?
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:36 amActually scottked I have no idea if Rush edited his transcript, nor did I ever claim that I did. Please gets your facts right before making a comment. I do know he eliminated several minutes between his original comment and his clarification and that is easily accessed at MediaMatters. But I happened to be listening to Rush that day, I often listen for laughs, he’s a wonderful entertainer and I love listening to dittoheads regurgitate exactly what he says and then hear him congratulate them on how bright they are. Now, as for you, loangunman, he didn’t simply hang up on a caller, he said he had never met a Republican who was against the war. A man called and said he was a Republican against the war. Rush told him he was wrong, ifg he was really a Republican he couldn’t be against the war. And then he hung on him. That’s a fact, that’s about Rush’s ability to deal with facts. As for dates and places, are you telling me Rush supported drug abusers? Deal with it, he’s a hypocrite. He actually threatened his housekeeper that if she didn’t committ a crime and get drugs for him he would fire her. As for Kerry lying, perhaps you didn’t see the Nightline show in which a correspondent actually went to the village where the firefight took place and spoke to the Vietnamese who were there — and confirmed it. Your problem is that you believe something is true because it fits your political belief. The fact that Kerry’s entire crew — minus one man who was fired from the crew — supported him should tell you something about those smears. Yet you choose to believe smear merchants with absolutely no proof. Question to you, did you support Colin Powell when he appeared in front of the UN? Was he correct or incorrect? Don’t avoid these questions, these are very basic. If you can’t answer these yes or no you really shouldn’t be criticizing other people.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:36 am…still no proof. No link. No transcript. No nothing…of course the truth is nothing but an problem for the libs… Comment by scottked — October 2, 2007 @ 12:31 am
You lie, already posted.
“If you want to piss off a conservative, tell him a lie. if you want to piss off a liberal, tell him the truth..â€
Comment by scottked — October 2, 2007 @ 12:31 am
If you want to piss of a conservative, tell him the truth, when he prefers to believe a lie. Your post is what psychiatrist calls ‘projection’. Get some therapy, loser.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:36 amRyan,
Thanks for walkin’ right in to that one–you stated:
“As for Al and the Internet, you do realize he authored the legislation that created the ‘internet’, right? Poor ignorant little boy.”
The Gore statement as recorded by the U.S. Senate (despite attempts later to be stricken from the record):
“During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country’s economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.”
You can’t win Ryan, reality won’t allow you to. I understand where you’re at right now and the intense shame and stupidity you will be feeling soon will allow you to mature as a human being.
God bless!
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:37 am“During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country’s economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.â€
You can’t win Ryan, reality won’t allow you to. I understand where you’re at right now and the intense shame and stupidity you will be feeling soon will allow you to mature as a human being.
God bless!
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 12:37 am
That’s right, the initiative to write the legislation to make the ‘internet’, a private enterprise accessible network that until that point had been a closed government network run by darpa. You’re right the record is there, and it says exactly what I said it does. He took initiative in creating the internet (a private organization), out of darpa.
But keep up the smear, it’s exactly the kind of dishonesty we’ve come to expect from your corrupt, and hateful party of liars and those that believe them!
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:40 amComment by deegeetau
The key word is initiative. “Authored legislation” is the same as “taking the initiative” – especially when “I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives”
That was laughable. Can you do no better?
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:43 amI understand where you’re at right now and the intense shame and stupidity you will be feeling soon will allow you to mature as a human being.
God bless!
Comment by deegeetau
Poor concern troll; he doesn’t realize how silly he sounds.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:45 amThe facts:
Transcript: Vice President Gore on CNN’s ‘Late Edition’
BLITZER: I want to get to some of the substance of domestic and international issues in a minute, but let’s just wrap up a little bit of the politics right now.
Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination process, support you instead of Bill Bradley, a friend of yours, a former colleague in the Senate? What do you have to bring to this that he doesn’t necessarily bring to this process?
ALGORE: Well, I will be offering — I’ll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.
But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I’ve traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country’s economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.
HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From the liberal hacks at Salon.com:
“Next came the media feeding frenzy. On 11 March (2000), Wired News was the first to report Gore’s remarks. Hundreds of articles were quick to appear, many drawing the inevitable comparisons to Gore’s other gaffes.
A Washington Times columnist remembered that Gore took credit for inspiring the tough-guy hero in Erich Segal’s novel Love Story. Segal denied it, saying that Gore’s Harvard roommate, actor Tommy Lee Jones, was the role model.
It didn’t help that soon afterward, Gore described himself as a boots-and-overalls hog farmer who, as a youth, was taught by his father how to muck out stalls, clear land with an ax, and “plow a steep hillside with a team of mules.” Well, not quite.
“Albert Gore actually grew up in the District of Columbia, the pampered, private-school-educated son of a veteran United States senator,” the New York Post said in an editorial.”
…let freedom (of the press) ring!
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:45 am“A Washington Times columnist remembered that Gore took credit for inspiring the tough-guy hero in Erich Segal’s novel Love Story. Segal denied it, saying that Gore’s Harvard roommate, actor Tommy Lee Jones, was the role model.”
Actually Segal said just the opposite. But then, the Washington Times was never known for honest reporting.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:48 am“Albert Gore actually grew up in the District of Columbia, the pampered, private-school-educated son of a veteran United States senator,†the New York Post said in an editorial.â€
But spent summers on his father’s farm…
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:50 amRyan,
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:52 amI don’t get it..where is the Limbaugh defamation of all of the military as “phoneys”? Incidently, Murtha did say “”Our troops overreacted because of the
pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold
blood” (Murtha, May 19, 2006)”
I will link to my sources where you will not to prove Rush edited..
http://www.operationstreetcorner.com/Downloads/EntirePacket.pdf
Incidentally, the Marines and Soldiers were found innocent of all allegations, despite Murthat’s and move-on’s efforts to impune them.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:55 amI don’t get it..where is the Limbaugh defamation of all of the military as “phoneys�
Are you really this dull?
We all know he was NOT talking about the whole military, just those who don’t support the mission.
We need better trolls.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:55 amIncidentally, the Marines and Soldiers were found innocent of all allegations, despite Murthat’s and move-on’s efforts to impune them.
Comment by scottked — October 2, 2007 @ 12:55 am
At Haditha? You’re wrong. A marine at Camp Pendleton was just charged about two weeks ago.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:58 amComment by scottked
Really, when you can’t be bothered to check news sources, one must conclude you’re being willfully ignorant of what’s actually going on.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:01 amBarfryan:
New York Times, “Gore Retells Tall Tale”
“But even his supporters have to say that any notion of having created the Internet is beyond tough to stomach.
According to the encyclopedia Britannica, the Internet dates back to at least 1973 and in an article that broke the Gore story, Declan McCullagh of Wired News says the Net goes back as far as 1967 when Al gore was 19 years old.
The U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency started experimenting with ways to allow networked computers to link and communicate. It was called The Internetting project and the ultimate system became known as The Internet.
We’ve never found any explanation by Gore as to why he made the claim, but he did have a sense of humor about it. At a meeting of Democratic leaders, he said, ” I was pretty tired when I made that comment because I had been up very late the night before inventing the camcorder.”
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:04 amI thought I would throw up when I heard hypocrit Harkin the phony soldier criticize Rush for his so-called phony soldier statement.Harkin LIED in the past saying that he was a combat pilot in Vietnam.He said he flew F4’s and F8’s in combat.When challenged, he admitted he was a FERRY PILOT stationed at NAS Atsugi Japan and he flew repaired aircraft back to Vietnam. He did not engage in any combat.Thus Harkin is the real phony soldier.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:05 amTake another toke Barfly..incidentaly, your commentary.. “are you really this dull” is becoming quite boring..
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:08 amBarfly writes: The key word is initiative. “Authored legislation†is the same as “taking the initiativeâ€
As interpreted by Barfly’s Rules of Rhetoric, perhaps?
Nor should we believe, that oral copulation “sex”.
You seem a little overworked, pal.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:09 amSENATOR HARKIN, IF YOU DEADHEADS CHOOSE TO REMEMBER, SAID THAT HE FLEW SORTIES OVER CUBA, AND LATER SAID HE FLEW SORTIES INTO VIETNAM. HE LATER RENEGED ON BOTH STATEMENTS. SENATOR HARKIN IS THE PHONY SOLDIER! THIS IS THE FIRST “PROGRESSIVE” SIGHT I’VE READ THE POSTS ON. WHAT A SHAME THAT SO MANY AMERICANS CHOOSE TO BE DECEIVED.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:15 amloangunman –
Don’t hold your breath for ANYTHING substantive to come from Liberals.
They live in their own little world of make believe all in the name of advancing their agenda. They don’t care who they destroy or even if they destroy this country in the process.
Liberalism/Progressives MUST be defeated!
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:17 amI thought I would point out one fact: Rush Limbaugh is on Armed Forces radio because our Military men and women overwhelmingly voted for him to be on. They wanted all three hours of his program but were only given one hour.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:20 amBarfryan:
New York Times, “Gore Retells Tall Taleâ€
“But even his supporters have to say that any notion of having created the Internet is beyond tough to stomach.
According to the encyclopedia Britannica, the Internet dates back to at least 1973 and in an article that broke the Gore story, Declan McCullagh of Wired News says the Net goes back as far as 1967 when Al gore was 19 years old.
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 1:04 am
The internet is the public incarnation of the Darpa-Net you refer to. Before the ‘initiative’ that Al Gore and a couple of other politicians took to create the public entity known as the Internet, Darpanet was just a government accessible entity.
Your smear is typical, and dishonest, as is this post. The internet was not created in the 1970s, although much of the underlying technology was. The internet is a specific incarnation of that technology, but I’m not surprised that you would misuse and abuse the terms to fit your propaganda. Just another swiftboat, from another dishonest conservative.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:21 amOkay MaverickCoast let me ask you the questions loangunman didn’t answer: Did you believe General Colin Powell when he spoke before
the United Nations? If so, will you do as he has and admit he was
wrong. If not, then why do you support this war?
Would you let your kids fight for me in Iraq? because I won’t let my
kids fight in Iraq? Also, I’ve yet to have any Republican explain to me
how America is going to suffer when we leave Iraq?
And why do you silly people insist that Americans who disagree with Bush want to destroy this country? I assure you I love this country at least as much as you do and I’m saddened that Bush has made us an international joke.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:24 amOh and deegeetau, I’ll even help you out with the actual legislation. You poor ignorant children are usually completely ignorant of the origins of the internet, and how it came to being – and that’s why you’re so willing to smear one of the key figures in it’s evolution – Al Gore.
If you want to find out about “The Gore Bill”, you know the bill that created the internet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Performance_Computing_and_Communication_Act_of_1991
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:26 amSo Harkin, a proven, exposed military fraud, who lied about his service in Vietnam even more than Kerry, is after Rush for pointing out that phony soldiers are despicable?
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:27 amAnd just who is it who is possibly on drugs?
I guess selling that sort of used sheep fodder works in some parts of the country, but not with anyone who is thinking.
Note to DNC leadership: When attacking those who dare to disagree with you, it is better if you attack people who do not have access to tapes of what they actually said, and who don’t have a massive history of not doing what you accuse them of doing.
Note to Harkin: Quit while you are still just a bit behind. Or not. You are an entertaining liar.
Don’t hold your breath for ANYTHING substantive to come from Liberals.
They live in their own little world of make believe all in the name of advancing their agenda. They don’t care who they destroy or even if they destroy this country in the process.
Liberalism/Progressives MUST be defeated!
Comment by MaverickCoast — October 2, 2007 @ 1:17 am
You describe yourself, and attribute your own shortcomings to others, how Senator Craig, Reverend Haggard of you. The GOP, always the same, hypocrites, liars, and lightweights.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:27 amHunter can’t handle the message, so he attacks the messenger – typical wingnut hypocrite. All smear, no substance.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:28 amWrites Ryan: Just another swiftboat, from another dishonest conservative.
Fascinating. I believe the article leading to this epic thread addressed wrongful smearing of the military. Most, if not all of the swifties opposed to Kerry served with valor and distinction, yet Ryan opts to denigrate them as dishonest. He never debated them face to face and has yet to release his service records. Shameful, really.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:37 amBarfryan,
I’ve already established the fact that the liberal elites and Algore himself scoffs at the concept that he created the internet. Which one of your personalities can’t digest that?
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:40 amWrites Ryan: Just another swiftboat, from another dishonest conservative.
Fascinating. I believe the article leading to this epic thread addressed wrongful smearing of the military. Most, if not all of the swifties opposed to Kerry served with valor and distinction, yet Ryan opts to denigrate them as dishonest. He never debated them face to face and has yet to release his service records. Shameful, really.
Comment by CAJD — October 2, 2007 @ 1:37 am
They were dishonest, Kerry released his records after the election and you swiftboaters were shown to be a bunch of dishonest liars that believe because Kerry had the guts to stand up and repeat the winter soldier testimony for congress you have the right to lie about his service. You people are hypocrites, pure and simple. You believe you have the right to lie, as long as you disagree with the person, and you believe you have the right to be dishonest as long as you believe the goal is good. You’re shameful.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:42 amDemocrats are lying as usual. Rush criticized a particular democratic writer that clamed to be a soldier but wasn’t and called the guy a phony soldier, which he was. So democrats as usual create this false story attacking Rush. They dems know they can lie when addressing the floor of the house or senate and not be sued. Democrats are a party of liars and I will never vote for a democrat.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:43 amBarfryan,
I’ve already established the fact that the liberal elites and Algore himself scoffs at the concept that he created the internet. Which one of your personalities can’t digest that?
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 1:40 am
He never said he created the internet, he said he took initiative in creating the internet – the entire senate created the internet with this bill – originally known as the “Gore Bill”.
Not every person you are quoting realized Gore had been smeared, there’s not excuse for your continuing ignorance other than willful smearing yourself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Performance_Computing_and_Communication_Act_of_1991
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:44 amDemocrats are lying as usual. Rush criticized a particular democratic writer that clamed to be a soldier but wasn’t and called the guy a phony soldier, which he was. So democrats as usual create this false story attacking Rush. They dems know they can lie when addressing the floor of the house or senate and not be sued. Democrats are a party of liars and I will never vote for a democrat.
Comment by Hughston — October 2, 2007 @ 1:43 am
Read the transcripts, you’re the liar. That’s why you hate Democrats, we point out you are a hypocrite and a liar, and you can’t cope with reality!
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:45 amHere’s the thing I don’t get. Limbaugh claims he was talking about a specific phony soldier, but he didn’t mention that soldier for more than two minutes after making the comment. And then, on his site, he eliminates the two minutes of chatter between the accusation and the first mention of the soldier. Those are the facts, that’s how the transcript was edited to make it appear as he named the soldier immediately following the accusation. Those are the facts. Do with them what you will, but remember, everyone is entitled to an opinion, no one is entitled to change the facts.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:46 amSpeaking of serving with honor, where again are Bush’s full service papers?
Oh wait, he didn’t serve out his term for some ‘mysterious’ reason, otherwise known as AWOL.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:46 amThose are the facts. Do with them what you will, but remember, everyone is entitled to an opinion, no one is entitled to change the facts.
Comment by Davidknows — October 2, 2007 @ 1:46 am
But if Republicans don’t distort the facts, they will never win elections. ;)
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:47 amBarfryan,
I’ve already established the fact that the liberal elites and Algore himself scoffs at the concept that he created the internet. Which one of your personalities can’t digest that?
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:49 amBarfryan,
I’ve already established the fact that the liberal elites and Algore himself scoffs at the concept that he created the internet. Which one of your personalities can’t digest that?
Which one?
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:51 amBarfryan,
I’ve already established the fact that the liberal elites and Algore himself scoffs at the concept that he created the internet. Which one of your personalities can’t digest that?
Answer responsibly.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:52 amBarfryan,
I’ve already established the fact that the liberal elites and Algore himself scoffs at the concept that he created the internet. Which one of your personalities can’t digest that?
Your willingness to attempt to defend the indefensible is a testament to your failure.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:55 amIf you take the initiative to rape a young boy after conclusive evidence shows the young boy has been raped, should you be judged any differently?
Algore thinks not.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:00 amdeegeetau, there is a wonderful book called The Cockeyed Egg which is the story of how a researcher discovered East German spies had infiltrated the Intranet, a government computer network that could be used only by the defense industry and other government agencies. Gore was the leader of a group that introduced and passed legislation opening up the Intranet to all of us. You and me. Without that legislation we wouldn’t be shouting at each other. Those are the facts. Again, you’re entitled to your own opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own facts. Without Al Gore’s work there might not be an internet. Fact.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:00 amBarfryan,
I’ve already established the fact that the liberal elites and Algore himself scoffs at the concept that he created the internet. Which one of your personalities can’t digest that?
Your willingness to attempt to defend the indefensible is a testament to your failure.
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 1:55 am
Your spamming the site with your lies doesn’t make them true, it just makes you look juvenile and poorly adjusted.
The “Gore Bill” did in fact create the modern internet. Educate yourself, and stop lying about reality that is easily shown that you’re nothing but a hateful lying smear artist. Poor little losers…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Performance_Computing_and_Communication_Act_of_1991
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:02 am\
Okay, Rush was talking about ONE SPECIFIC FAKE SOLDIER…a guy named McBeth. Liberal news networks did stories on him months ago and the dems didn’t make a peep. McBeth lied about everything and was a proven liar. I will say that Rush over reacted to this. They pushsed his buttons and he bit. Anyone who listens to Rush knows that he has the utmost respect and appreciation for people in uniform. He does fund raisers for survivors of soldiers killed, etc.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:02 amMy opinion is that dems did this to overshadow the Clarence Thomas media blitz. Rush had him on his show for 90 minutes and the 60 Minutes interview replayed the blasting that Thomas gave the senators about the HIGH TECH LYNCHING. Thomas ended by saying EASTERN LIBERALS ARE MORE RACIST THAN SOUTHERN RACISTS. YOU AT LEAST KNOW WHERE THE SOUTHERN RACIST STANDS.
Go Thomas!
What did Rush accomplish? Proving what a bunch of Drug addicted hypocrites run the GOP. What did Al Gore do? He wrote the bill that created the internet
High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (HPCA) was a bill created and introduced by then Senator Al Gore (it was thus referred to as the Gore Bill [1]). It was passed on December 9, 1991. [2]
This bill led to the development of the National Research and Education Network (NREN) [3][4][5] (which was referred to with the rhetoric of the Information Superhighway[6]). It also led to the development of the National Information Infrastructure (also discussed through the rhetoric of the Information Superhighway [7]) the High-Performance Computing and Communications Initiative (an off-shoot of the HPCA), the web browser Mosaic[8], and the creation of a high-speed fiber optic network that, when utilized, would help stimulate the economy.
High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (HPCA) was a bill created and introduced by then Senator Al Gore (it was thus referred to as the Gore Bill [1]). It was passed on December 9, 1991. [2]
This bill led to the development of the National Research and Education Network (NREN) [3][4][5] (which was referred to with the rhetoric of the Information Superhighway[6]). It also led to the development of the National Information Infrastructure (also discussed through the rhetoric of the Information Superhighway [7]) the High-Performance Computing and Communications Initiative (an off-shoot of the HPCA), the web browser Mosaic[8], and the creation of a high-speed fiber optic network that, when utilized, would help stimulate the economy.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:03 amOkay, Rush was talking about ONE SPECIFIC FAKE SOLDIER…a guy named McBeth.
Comment by wiener — October 2, 2007 @ 2:02 am
That’s a complete lie. Rush even called Murtha a Fake Soldier – so Rush contradicted you – LIAR.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:04 amThanks for investing the energy in this dialogue. Now rebut the liberal elites and Algore himself who has stated (come to Jesus) otherwise.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:05 amIf you take the initiative to rape a young boy after conclusive evidence shows the young boy has been raped, should you be judged any differently?
Algore thinks not.
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 2:00 am
Sounds like a GOP party where you all rape young boys.
As for Gore, the 1991 initiative created the INTERNET out of the DARPANET. So yes, his bill, and the Senate vote did create what we now call the Internet.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:06 amThanks for investing the energy in this dialogue. Now rebut the liberal elites and Algore himself who has stated (come to Jesus) otherwise.
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 2:05 am
They said he didn’t ‘invent’ the internet – he never claimed this. So your strawman just shows your dishonesty, and that’s all it proves. That you’d rather attack Al Gore with a fake smear, than face the reality that Rush Limbaugh hates any and all honorable soldiers that disagree with his politics.
Liar.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:07 amGore is seen by many pundits, and presumably by millions in the public at large, as a politician who makes up the facts to fit the desires of the audience. Given the putative “fact” that he claimed to have “invented the Internet,” this tendency towards exaggeration apparently even extends to Gore’s own resume. No one would hire a new employee who was known to have padded a resume; who would vote for a candidate for the presidency who had done the same?
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:07 amAnd I also notice that Thomas claims not to have watched Anita Hill testifying but states that she is lying — without ever offering a shred
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:08 amof evidence to prove that. Now all you neocons who demand evidence
from us Libs, please, show me the slightest shred of evidence that
Thomas is telling the truth and Hill is lying. Thomas can’t do it. He’s
a sad houseman, pulling up the ladder after he’s safely aboard.
He claims to be a strict constuctionist– yet the constitution as
originally written did not make blacks living as slaves citizens,
passively accepting slavery. How about that, you strict constructionist,
you.
Someone left a comment about Algore and inventing the Internet. The Internet began as a way for college and university professors to talk to each other and grew when entreprenuers found you could make money on the thing. Thank God! It has created a whole new economy. Thanks college professors! I bet you never intended that to happen. eBay started as a way for Pez collectors to talk and trade together and look how it has grown. Wonderful US capitalism. It’s great!
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:08 amdeegeetau,
This isn’t a dialog, it’s a lecture session where we have to constantly correct your lies, smears and b*llsh!t that you wingnuts keep repeating as though we’ve never heard it (boring) a million times before from your fellow ignorant ditto heads. You wingnuts are interchangeable. You don’t think for yourselves, and you repeat the same lies even when you learn the truth. Why? Because you’re just liars that prefer lies to reality. That’s why you lose so many elections, and why the majority of voters are now Democrats. We’re all sick of liars like you.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:09 amNo one would hire a new employee who was known to have padded a resume; who would vote for a candidate for the presidency who had done the same?
Actually, more people than voted for George Bush in 2000.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:10 am“Gore’s support… helped to shape…”
Yeah–my support of the Colts helped them shape a Superbowl victory in 2007.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:11 amGore is seen by many pundits, and presumably by millions in the public at large, as a politician who makes up the facts to fit the desires of the audience. Given the putative “fact†that he claimed to have “invented the Internet,†this tendency towards exaggeration apparently even extends to Gore’s own resume. No one would hire a new employee who was known to have padded a resume; who would vote for a candidate for the presidency who had done the same?
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 2:07 am
He never claimed to “invent” the internet – your fellow wingnut posted the excerpt from the Congressional transcript. You posting this is typical of the lies, smears and deception you smear artists are known for.
You’re such a sad, dishonest loser.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:11 am“Gore’s support… helped to shape…â€
Or better yet–my support of the freedom helped Iraq shape a a democracy.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:12 amDavidknows –
Can we move on now and REALIZE that we are now fighting a war? The debate is over with to the point we DON’T need to encourage the enemy by bashing the Commander-In-Chief AND the military. That is what the Left has done relentlessly! Bash Bush, bash the troops, bash Bush, bash the troops……on & on. We need to move on and do whatever possible to make it EASIER for our troops to WIN this war. The Left is only making it harder. WHAT PART OF THIS DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND? It’s time to do what Americans used to do ON BOTH SIDES OF ISLE and come together during a time of war. I guess you guys really don’t care, though, do you? You’ll do anything to take down Bush.
As far as I’m concerned, Hussein’s violations of at least 17 articles of the cease fire agreement, justified action against him. Also, he ACTED like he was hiding something by not allowing the inspectors to have total access to defined areas. Don’t you think that kind of threw up a few “red flags” and said he is hiding something? Why he not allow the inspectors in if he weren’t hiding something?
At the beginning of the war EVEN DEMOCRATS were saying the same thing Bush did after they looked at the same evidence Bush did! Not only that, their had been certain Democrats even before Bush warning about the grave threat Hussein presented to the region and the world.
The Left has made this war political at the expense of this Country and the men and women who have died for itand are still serving. Groups such as Move On.org and Media Matters are JUST AS MUCH ENEMIES TO THIS COUNTRY as are foreign enemies abroad. They attack the great institutions of this Country, with their perverted ideals and beliefs. Soros is the one of the most dangerous men today, engaged in changing the landscape of every American’s life.
Just look at the special interest groups that associate themselves with the Left. Groups that represent everything America is NOT. Ideals that were never a part of America’s greatness! Don’t you notice that the Left NEVER have anything good to say about this Country. They always want to blame the world’s problems on the U.S.! That’s why I’m a Conservative! BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE GREATNESS OF THIS COUNTRY AND THE FOUNDATION IT WAS BUILT ON. It’s not always perfect, but it’s the best the world has to offer.
Let me leave you with a Chinese proverb that I believe sums up Conservatism quite brilliantly……
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime!
Liberals can’t get past the first sentence because they need voters who DEPEND ON THEM TO GIVE THEM HANDOUTS! Helping a person is not keeping them dependent on Government! Freedom is not being dependent on the Government!!!
May God bless America! Yes, the U.S. always has and always will be a Godly nation!
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:12 am“Gore’s support… helped to shape…â€\
Yeah–my support of the Colts helped them shape a Superbowl victory in 2007.
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 2:11 am
Why, did you write the “Colts Bill” for the NBA?
Because the bill that created the Internet was called the “Gore Bill” in congress originally.
More dishonest smear, from someone that defends the draft dodging, druggie military hater Rush.
You thieves, liars and cowards do clump together – that’s for sure!
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:12 amSomeone left a comment about Algore and inventing the Internet. The Internet began as a way for college and university professors to talk to each other and grew when entreprenuers found you could make money on the thing. Thank God! It has created a whole new economy. Thanks college professors! I bet you never intended that to happen. eBay started as a way for Pez collectors to talk and trade together and look how it has grown. Wonderful US capitalism. It’s great!
Comment by wiener — October 2, 2007 @ 2:08 am
Actually it began as a government funded research project run by Darpa, not for colleges. Government funding, and not capitalism created the internet! Capitalism created AOL, thank god for government research is all I can say!
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:14 amLiberals can’t get past the first sentence because they need voters who DEPEND ON THEM TO GIVE THEM HANDOUTS! Helping a person is not keeping them dependent on Government! Freedom is not being dependent on the Government!!
May God bless America! Yes, the U.S. always has and always will be a Godly nation!
Comment by MaverickCoast — October 2, 2007 @ 2:12 am
Ironic coming from the party that gives so many handouts to Halliburton and the rest of the GOP handout crowd! The hypocrisy from you folks is disgusting!
As for god bless america, you sound like a Muslim cleric – lunatic!
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:15 am“Gore’s support… helped to shape…â€
Or better yet–my support of the freedom helped Iraq shape a a democracy.
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 2:12 am
That’s true. Support from losers like you has shaped the f*cked up mess in Iraq from your willingness to defend hatemongers like Rush, while smearing anyone that disagrees with you! I will say that it’s true, you and your fellow GOP losers did help shape Iraq, as the failed democracy of thuggery and corruption it currently is! Who know that a GOP founded government would be just like the GOP! I’m still waiting for the cross dressing presidential candidate in Iraq to come on the news! ;)
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:18 amSo Rush smears a Congressmen and all Honorable soldiers that disagree with him, and instead of admitting he was wrong, the trolls smear Democrats. And they wonder why everyone knows they’re hypocrites, liars and irresponsible people.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:24 amRyan Neat wrote: thank god for government research is all I can say!
You’re just a government lover, aren’t you? Capitalism made it what it is today, not the government!
I’ll take the private sector’s productivity, EFFICIENCY, success’, and results over the government’s ANY DAY!!
Our government is out of control!
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:25 amMaverickCoast,
I’m pleased that you’ve made a reasonable argument without resorting to name calling, although I disagree completely with that argument. In 1998 a conservative think tank called the Project for the New American Century, among the members Cheney, Rumsfeld, Richard Perle, Kristol, outlined what they believed our foreign policy should be for the next century. It began with deposing Saddam Hussein. They understood this would be an evolutionary process rather than a revolutionary process unless — and these are their words — “There is a new Pearl Harbor.” Well, they got their Pearl Harbor on 9/11 and for the first time in our history we became an aggressor nation. That’s why we attacked Iraq, everything you mentioned was part an elaborate deception to convince this nation that we were threatened by Iraq. That was simply not true.
As someone who loves what this country was built to stand for, I abhor seeing the values for which we have fought disgraced by the actions of this government. You seem to be saying it is the duty of every citizen to support the army when it is in the field. Come together to defeat the enemy. If you lived in Germany in 1938 would you write the same words?
How about North Vietnam in 1965, same words? Come together to fight the enemy in the name of patriotism? For the first time in our history we are torturing prisoners, does that make you proud? For the first time in our history we are gathering up large groups of non-combatants and throwing them in prison without any rights — including American citizens. Does that make you proud?
This war is no longer winable. If it was going to be won it would have been done immediately after the attack, when the Bush adminitsration ignored all the planning that had been done and invaded with too few troops. What’s going on now is a civil war and all we are is cannon fodder. If we leave tomorrow they’re going to fight each other. If we leave in 10 years they’re going to fight each other. Our presence makes no difference; if anything it makes the situation worse. So please don’t lecture me about being a good American unless you’ll agree that the Germans were correct in being good Germans.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:28 amRyan Neat - Ironic coming from the party that gives so many handouts to Halliburton and the rest of the GOP handout crowd! The hypocrisy from you folks is disgusting!
Halliburton DOES do alot that others can’t! Why not use them?
At least we aren’t providing a false hope to people like the Left does.
Read my quote a couple more times and you MIGHT get it!
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:30 amIronic coming from the party that gives so many handouts to Halliburton–sez Fryin
Yer buddy Soros thanks y’all fer drivin down the price of Halli so’s he could buy 2 million shares, you useful idjit. Google Peter Byrnes work exposing dirty Diane Feinsteins deeds at MILCON ya twerp–billions to her hubby’s biz interests…she’s still skatin away like the dirty dems always do.
And raping young boys? Now that’d be Barney Frank’s baliwick, you hypocritical gasbag.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:39 amPULL OUT NOW!!!
WE HAVE LOST ALLREADY!!!
THIS WAR IS FOR OIL!!
THEY DONT WANT US THERE!
WE HAVE TARGETS ON OUR BACKS!
THIS IS A CIVIL WARRRR!
visit me at PhonySoldiersforcongress2008.com
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:44 amPlease detail the intellectual honesty of these two statements:
“I took the initiative in creating the internet”
– Vice President Gore on CNN’s ‘Late Edition
“It depends on what the definition of the word is is”
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:45 am– Bill Lewinsky
You’re just a government lover, aren’t you? Capitalism made it what it is today, not the government!
I’ll take the private sector’s productivity, EFFICIENCY, success’, and results over the government’s ANY DAY!!
Our government is out of control!
Comment by MaverickCoast — October 2, 2007 @ 2:25 am
BAHAHA, what a funny post!
Without government you wouldn’t be typing on the government created internet.
As for efficiency, medicare is a 3% overhead, compared to commercial insurance. Reality screws you, buddy!
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:45 amPerhaps then-House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-Texas) stated it best:
“If the Vice President (Algore) created the Internet then I created the Interstate highway system.”
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:48 am“I took the initiative in creating the internetâ€
- Vice President Gore on CNN’s ‘Late Edition
“It depends on what the definition of the word is isâ€
- Bill Lewinsky
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 2:45 am
You forgot “all liberals are Phony Soldiers”
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:50 am- Rush Limbaugh
“Congressmen who willfully take action during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs, and should be arrested, exiled or hangedâ€
- Why the Dems are toast in ‘08
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:51 am“If the Vice President (Algore) created the Internet then I created the Interstate highway system.â€
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 2:48 am
That would be hard, since the Interstate Highway System already existed as a funded public entity when he entered Congress, but Al Gore wrote the bill that funded and created the Internet.
Then again, you guys are prone to lies, distortion and deception – thanks for posting yet another republican example of this.
For the Record, Eisenhower could probably have made that claim, but not the loser Dick.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:52 am“Congressmen who willfully take action during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs, and should be arrested, exiled or hangedâ€
- Why the Dems are toast in ‘08
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 2:51 am
So when do you propose we issue the arrest warrant for Limbaugh? And his defenders (you)??
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:54 am- Why the Dems are toast in ‘08
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 2:51 am
This quote is why you should stay out of Rush’s stash…
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:54 am“When my sister and I were growing up,” Mr. Gore told a small audience made up mostly of women, “there was never any doubt in our minds that men and women were equal, if not more so.”
– Brainiac, Al Gore
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:54 amOn July 16, 2000 during a “Meet the Press” interview, Gore was asked if he would be in favor of postponing the execution of a pregnant woman. His hesitant response was “I’d have to think about it”.
For libs it’s not a matter of principle, but rather politics and treasure of power.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:57 am“Congressmen who willfully take action during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs, and should be arrested, exiled or hangedâ€
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 2:51 am
This quote is how we know you’re a complete loon. Not only is it a ‘fake’ quote of Lincoln, it’s a fake quote created by J. Michael Waller, a conservative scholar (cough). Yet another example of the sort of intellectual dishonesty that eats at the core of Republican values.
You’re a bunch of hateful, zealot lunatics. And your only hope in 2008 is the military coup d’etat that you and fellow loons like you salivate over. You are a traitor to all values American. As are your american hating anti-democratic fellow wingnuts.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:57 am“When my sister and I were growing up,†Mr. Gore told a small audience made up mostly of women, “there was never any doubt in our minds that men and women were equal, if not more so.â€
- Brainiac, Al Gore
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 2:54 am
You are humor impaired, compulsively dishonest, and socially stunted, you poor schlub.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:58 amIronic coming from the party that gives so many handouts to Halliburton–sez Fryin
Yer buddy Soros thanks y’all fer drivin down the price of Halli so’s he could buy 2 million shares, you useful idjit. Google Peter Byrnes work exposing dirty Diane Feinsteins deeds at MILCON ya twerp–billions to her hubby’s warbiz interests…she’s still skatin away like the dirty dems always do.
And raping young boys? Now that’d be Barney Frank’s baliwick, you hypocritical gasbag.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:00 am“I’m very familiar with the importance of dairy farming in Wisconsin. I’ve spent the night on a dairy farm here in Wisconsin. If I’m entrusted with the presidency, you’ll have someone who is very familiar with what the Wisconsin dairy industry is all about.”
– Classic Algore
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:00 amOn July 16, 2000 during a “Meet the Press†interview, Gore was asked if he would be in favor of postponing the execution of a pregnant woman. His hesitant response was “I’d have to think about itâ€.
For libs it’s not a matter of principle, but rather politics and treasure of power.
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 2:57 am
Well, that’s a reasonable response. Unless you believe that a fetus is a full blown child (like you religious wingnuts do), then this could in fact be a reasonable act. It is a matter of principle, unlike you folks that claim to be pro life, but end up murdering innocent people…
Values indeed – this post shows your hypocrisy, not Al’s, you poor schlub!
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:00 am“I’m very familiar with the importance of dairy farming in Wisconsin. I’ve spent the night on a dairy farm here in Wisconsin. If I’m entrusted with the presidency, you’ll have someone who is very familiar with what the Wisconsin dairy industry is all about.â€
- Classic Algore
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 3:00 am
Compared to George Bush, that calls a Pig Farm a Ranch, and believes that clearing brush is ‘Ranching’…
Yeah, what could a US Senator that’s been involved in Farm Bills, and legislation know about farming concerns.
You’re such a poor schlub.
At least he wasn’t like George Bush, and milked a Boy Horse!
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:02 am“I seek this office to restore the rule of law and respect for common sense to the White House.”
- Algore campaigning as the Clinton administration drew to a close
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:04 amYer buddy Soros thanks y’all fer drivin down the price of Halli so’s he could buy 2 million shares, you useful idjit. Google Peter Byrnes work exposing dirty Diane Feinsteins deeds at MILCON ya twerp–billions to her hubby’s warbiz interests…she’s still skatin away like the dirty dems always do. Comment by roboright — October 2, 2007 @ 3:00 am
Hey, that doesn’t make me a Hypocrite, just proves my point! Your party is owned 100% by these guys, ours are just too close for our comfort. Doesn’t change reality that you pigs are the biggest at the welfare trough!
And raping young boys? Now that’d be Barney Frank’s baliwick, you hypocritical gasbag.
Comment by roboright — October 2, 2007 @ 3:00 am
Not true, gay men don’t need underage boys, that’s a purely repressed Republican fetish – but then again, you already knew that, didn’t you padre.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:04 am“I seek this office to restore the rule of law and respect for common sense to the White House.â€
- Algore campaigning as the Clinton administration drew to a close
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 3:04 am
A Bush apologist wants to play Stupid Quotes? BAHAAHA, maybe when your Childrens Lurn, that won’t be such a funny and braindead act on your part!!!!
AHAHAHAHA, Schlub!
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:06 am“Why should Blacks be heard? They’re 12% of the population.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:09 amWho the hell cares.” -Rush Limbaugh
“I think this reason why girls don’t do well on multiple choice
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:09 amtests goes all the way back to the Bible, all the way back to Genesis,
Adam and Eve. God said, ‘All right, Eve, multiple choice or
multiple orgasms, what’s it going to be?’
We all know what was chosen” (TV, Feb. 23, 1994).
Citizen service is a repudiation of the principles upon which
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:10 amour country was based. We are all here for ourselves.” Rush Limbaugh
“Condoms only work during the school year.”
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:10 amRush Limbaugh
My favorite is the rant Rush had on drugs, of course until he got caught! Then the whiny fat pig, squealed just like the hypocritical loser that he is!
“And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs,
using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good
because we know what happens to people in societies and
neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if
people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought
to be accused and they ought to be convicted and
they ought to be sent up.” Rush Limbaugh
We’re still waiting Rush for you to put your fat *ss, where your big fat mouth is!
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:11 amThree days before Limbaugh’s comments, ABC’s World News exposed the same anti-war activist, and ABC reporter Brian Ross declared the phony soldier’s story “a complete fabrication.â€
Will the left-wing media attack ABC with the same zeal they did Limbaugh?
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:15 amDavidknows wrote:
everything you mentioned was part an elaborate deception to convince this nation that we were threatened by Iraq
Many countries around the world was expressing that Hussein was
a threat that had to be dealt with! …”an elaborate deception” is your conclusion, not a proven fact.
If you lived in Germany in 1938 would you write the same words?
Are you seriously comparing our actions to that of Hitler’s? I won’t dignify that question with an answer.
For the first time in our history we are torturing prisoners, does
that make you proud?
Answer this scenario: If you had a prisoner in custody that knew
where a nuke was planted in an American city and which was
about to detonate, would you do whatever is necesary to get the
prisoner to tell you where the nuke is? You may think that is a
irrelevant question, but it is something to think about when asking your question!
This war is no longer winable
I’m glad you weren’t a Commander in WWII and other wars. Do I
need to remind you of the casualties we suffered in wars of the
past? D-Day alone is enough to make your head spin. Don’t you think there were a few that said ‘this war is not winnable’? There are native people in the Middle East who are beginning to see that they don’t have to live in terror and they CAN do something about it. They realize that we AREN’T the enemy and that we are there to help them govern as a people and not be governed by a dictator.
If it was going to be won it would have been done immediately after
the attack,
Anyone that knows anything about this war against terror have
ALWAYS SAID THE WAR AGAINST TERROR IS GOING TO BE A
LONG ONE! One like we have never seen. Anyone who doesn’t understand that just doesn’t get it! We can’t give up. DO YOU WANT TO START ALL OVER AGAIN later after the terrorists have
regrouped and rearmed with MORE POWERFUL weapons and do you want to wait until we’ve been attacked again. WE HAVE KILLED SOME MAJOR PLAYERS in terrorism in this fight.
What’s going on now is a civil war
There is no civil war going on. Violence is down. The surge is taking hold. Even the news is reporting this, as much as they hate to.
Our presence makes no difference; if anything it makes the
situation worse
Why? Our presence will bring stability to the region. We have a presence in many parts of the world.
So please don’t lecture me about being a good American unless
you’ll agree that the Germans were correct in being good
Germans.
Please don’t compare our actions to that of Nazis Germany or I’ll have to write you off as a certified idiot.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:15 amThree days before Limbaugh’s comments, ABC’s World News exposed the same anti-war activist, and ABC reporter Brian Ross declared the phony soldier’s story “a complete fabrication.
Will the left-wing media attack ABC with the same zeal they did Limbaugh?
Comment by deegeetau — October 2, 2007 @ 3:15 am
So you call Murtha, an anti-war activist?
You losers are too funny!!!
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:18 amMaverickCoast, your whole post is riddled with lies, assumption, deception and distortion. Our presence in the middle east doesn’t bring stability – it brings the opposite. This is the assessment of the CIA and the Pentagon.
And if you don’t want to be compared to Nazis, don’t act like them. Saddam as a ‘threat’ was not the same as Saddam is a serious threat that needs invading. That kind of distortion field is exactly what Hitler created and used as a smokescreen to invade Poland. That’s reality, and before you accuse others of being a certified idiot, you should first not act like one yourself.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:21 amCHARLES GIBSON, HOST: ‘A Closer Look” tonight at phony heroes. A famous recruiting slogan once touted the Army as a place to be all you can be. But increasingly, scam artists are posing as the war heroes they never were, claiming credit for acts of courage in Iraq and Afghanistan. Federal officials have launched a crackdown. Operation Stolen Valor they call it. Tonight, our Brian Ross investigates.
GRAPHICS: BRIAN ROSS INVESTIGATES
BRIAN ROSS (ABC NEWS): At the Washington State Capitol in Olympia this year, a Marine Corps Color Guard included a Marine chaplain to deliver the opening prayer. But authorities later discovered that the Marine chaplain, Captain Reggie Buddle, was not a chaplain.
JEFFREY SULLIVAN (US ATTORNEY): I think he went to seminary school and flunked out.
BRIAN ROSS (ABC NEWS): Nor was a Buddle a captain, nor had he earned all the medals he wore. In fact, Buddle had never been in the Marines, even though he had officiated at numerous Marine weddings, baptisms and funerals.
JEFFREY SULLIVAN (US ATTORNEY): It was devastating to the people who had relied on him.
BRIAN ROSS (ABC NEWS): At a time when tens of thousands of US soldiers have put their lives on the line in Iraq and been honored for their sacrifice and courage, federal prosecutors have had to launch a crackdown on phony heroes.
JEFFREY SULLIVAN (US ATTORNEY): They want something that they didn’t earn. They didn’t have the guts to go and do it themselves.
BRIAN ROSS (ABC NEWS): Authorities say many of the phony heroes make up their stories, so they can get free treatment at veterans’ hospitals.
DOUGLAS CARVER (VETERANS AFFAIRS OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL): They’re taking money away that should be used for the deserving veterans.
BRIAN ROSS (ABC NEWS): Most of the phonies are spotted by people who really earned their medals. In St Louis, this supposed Marine with a chest full of honors was turned in because he seemed too fat to be a real Marine. It turns out he never served a day in the Marines.
JESSE ADAM MACBETH (VIDEO BLOGGER): Once I was in Baghdad…
BRIAN ROSS (ABC NEWS): But authorities say the most disturbing case involves this man, 23-year-old Jesse Macbeth. In a YouTube video seen around the world, Macbeth became a rallying point for anti-war groups, as he talked of the Purple Heart he received in Iraq and described how he and other US Army rangers killed innocent civilians at a Baghdad mosque.
JESSE ADAM MACBETH (VIDEO BLOGGER): Women and men, you know – while in their prayer, we started slaughtering them.
BRIAN ROSS (ABC NEWS): It was a complete fabrication.
DOUGLAS CARVER (VETERANS AFFAIRS OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL): He was in for approximately six weeks and then he was discharged. I don’t think he even completed basic training.
BRIAN ROSS (ABC NEWS): Last week in federal court in Seattle, Macbeth offered an apology for defaming the real American heroes as he admitted to lying about his service record and his supposed atrocities, Charlie.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:22 amRyan Neat — As for efficiency, medicare is a 3% overhead, compared to commercial insurance. Reality screws you, buddy!
And I’m sure you think government could take over health care and run it better.
What ARE you smoking?
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:22 amWell, that’s a reasonable response. Unless you believe that a fetus is a full blown child (like you religious wingnuts do), then this could in fact be a reasonable act. It is a matter of principle, unlike you folks that claim to be pro life, but end up murdering innocent people…sez Fryin
Reasonable? Maybe fer a twisted-sistah like you. Hey genius–that’s why Scott Peterson was convicted of a DOUBLE HOMICIDE for killing his pregnant wife. Half the states have laws on the books for MURDER of a FETUS dipsh!t.
And you probably boohoo the death penalty but think killing millions of the ultimate in innocent human life is some kind of freakin constitutional right. Not so, and the SCOTUS doesn’t believe so either after fetal viability. Yer a disgrace to the human race.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:24 amRyan Neat – That kind of distortion field is exactly what Hitler created and used as a smokescreen to invade Poland.
Oh, did Poland have weapons of mass destruction and were they a threat to the entire region and did Poland invade a neighboring country for no reason?
You HATE the U.S. and Bush so much you actually think we are out to bully and conquer innocent countries for no reason. GET A CLUE. If you hate this country so much, move. I, for one, am tired of the Left’s ‘It’s America’s fault’ montra.
If you read about the founding of this country, it was not founded on Liberal ideas as defined today. It was founded on the defined Conservative principles of today.
YOU progressives are progressive alright. You’re progressively tearing this country apart.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:37 amRyan Neat -
Your brain is incredible!
Where can I downsize mine to match wits with you?
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:41 amWhat’s really chewing on Fryin here and all the other TPturds is that the tide has dramatically turned in Iraq and we’re kicking butt aided by a groundswell of support in the streets. Punks like Fryin will have a lot of explainin (good luck) to do when our men come home with a victory in the bag after being called losers and war criminals. That’s why the dems are fabricating all this bs about Rush. Like they really care about the troops. Yeah, right. WIth Slick Willie and Her Thighness as their “titular heads” they aint got a chance in hell of convincing our beloved warriors.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:54 amI came to debate the FACTS with some libs then I realized its unfair to wage a battle of wits with unarmed people. so when libs realize that being completely bass ackwards is not PROGRESSIVE its being bass ackwards we might be able to begin a dialogue. when you truly open your minds there will still be a place for you here in the land of reality
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:11 amIf liberals put as much effort into winning this war on terrorism as they do in hating our twice elected President Bush we would be much better off. Why do liberals run from the label of liberal? They now prefer Progressive. What BS. They ruined classical liberalism now they must run to a different moniker.
October 2nd, 2007 at 5:38 amFor those of you that say that you can out-debate Rush, please call in to his show. His call screeners send people who disagree with him to the front of the line. His invitation to Senator Reid was not necessarily to have him come in person. All the Senator has to do is pick up a phone and call in to the show.
The ‘phony war hero phenomenon’ was a phrase used by Douglas J. Carver, Special Agent in Charge of the VA Office of Inspector General, Western Field Office in a discussion of “Operation Stolen Valor†along with U.S. Attorney Jeffrey C. Sullivan. There were 12 prosecutions that came out of that particular operation this year, one of which was Jesse MacBeth, whose name most everyone has heard. I believe that if Media Matters were concerned with truth and not with “gotcha”, this whole ordeal would never have occurred. As was demonstrated by an earlier contributor, the ABC News story used the word “phony heroes” and nobody is on Charlie Gibson’s back. Come on, people, you really ought to start being serious here. Partisan hacks aren’t taken seriously!
October 2nd, 2007 at 6:51 amJust want to thank everyone posting. I am sitting in Iraq currently as an authentic military person. I did not take offense at Mr. Limbaugh’s remarks although I do not always approve of his blustering.
I do take offense at a Senator throwing a rude comment about someone out on the Senate floor. That is not the arena that petty comments should be made for either side of the aisle. That has happened too many times on both sides.
Either way, please continue to tell me what a horrible person I am for serving my country and loving the ideals I was raised with. My parents taught me to respect others even if I did not agree with their statements and to do what I thought was right.
I volunteered to be inthe military over 19 years ago and I have yet to witness any of the atrocities that people have laid upon my brother and sisters in arms. I guess I have been lucky…or maybe its a lot of BS being concocted to lower my morale and make me want to quit. That will not happen.
I feel a lump in my throat when I see a flag waving in the wind, a soldier’s snappy salute or a flag-draped coffin. I love my country and all it stands for on paper. I do not always stand for what Senators and radio talk-show hosts think I should.
Enjoy your latte while I get back to work.
CWO2 sends….
October 2nd, 2007 at 7:11 amDoesn’t it bother any of you that Sens Reid and Harkin are taking this opportunity to jump on a radio commentator when what he said in context is nothing like they are alleging. He was referring to people who have misstated their service records to give more credence to their anti-war message i.e. phony soldiers. Why lie and be dishonest? I’m sure the two senators haven’t heard the whole quote in context. This should bother you because they look like complete asses except to the kool-aid drinkers who welcome any rhetoric against conservatives no matter if it’s true or not.
October 2nd, 2007 at 7:31 amYou Dems are losing site of the real issue here. You are attacking radio talk show host for a comment that was taken out of context instead of someone who lied and made you and the media look foolish. Jesse MacBeth stated he was an Army Ranger and that he received a purple heart. He also said that he had seen atrocities while in Iraq. However, it turns out he lied. He was in the Army for a total of 44 days and then washed out of boot camp! You wanted to believe his lies because it is what you want to believe just to get the troops home and declare this war a total loss for President Bush. When the truth was uncovered, you had to lash out at someone and now Rush is taking the brunt of that anger. Again, you Dems are not looking at the facts and the history that Rush has in support of the troops. Going forward, check the validity of the comments before you state it as truth!
October 2nd, 2007 at 7:45 am#561 – “For those of you that say that you can out-debate Rush, please call in to his show. His call screeners send people who disagree with him to the front of the line.” Comment by Jane E. Gaffigan — October 2, 2007 @ 6:51 am
This is just a blatant lie. His screeners refuse to allow people that have logical arguments against the Rush Rhetoric, they only look for loons that can only say “You’re wrong!” with no argument at all. Also, Rush will mute people when they start to get the upper hand in arguments, and say things like “So, you don’t have a response to me”. How disingenuous.
Every time I’ve called Rush, I’ve been hung up on beause I’m a veteran that doesn’t believe in the war. I guess when Rush got a deferment from Vietnam for his pimply a$$, he can’t debate real veterans, he can only slander them.
October 2nd, 2007 at 7:45 am#491 – “If liberals put as much effort into winning this war on terrorism as they do in hating our twice elected President Bush we would be much better off.” Comment by coop1960 — October 2, 2007 @ 5:38 am
If conservatives spent more time on (so called) conservative values, rather than questioning the patriotism of liberals, they might actually get votes.
Can’t wait for a Democrat President to force neo-cons into “free speech” zones miles away from any rally! I’m sure they’ll be fine with having their free speech limited, just as Pres. Bush does now!
October 2nd, 2007 at 7:49 am#489 – Comment by roboright — October 2, 2007 @ 3:54 am
And the reason you’re too much of a coward to have enlisted is. . . . . . . (deafening silence)
I guess neo-cons can only spout words of phony patriotism, and not take actions of patriotism.
October 2nd, 2007 at 7:51 amSen. Harkin is saying that a persons past transgressions should preclude them from stating an opinion. Sen. Harkin your colleague Ted(the killer) Kennedy should have duct tape over his mouth. Ted Kennedy let a young woman die so he could cover his drunken butt. Okay lets examine the differences here Limbaugh is an entertainer while Ted(the killer) Kennedy is a senator. Who should be held to a higher standard? I don’t remember Sen Harkin pontificating on drunks killing young women. Sen Harkin and the other nudnicks should do their jobs instead of this grandstanding. Any sane, reasonable, and unbiased person surely can see this is was a hatchet job. Stop wasting taxpayer money with the on the job political campaigning.
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:02 amThink progress, Ha Ha, Thats a joke! You people do nothing to progress this country. All you do is live in the past vietnam , Watergate , etc…etc…I am a marine, Rush was speaking about Jesse Macbeth , a phony non hackin piece of sh..t. Who washed out of army boot camp. So spin your lies , But we spread the truth, We realize that there are enough idiots out there who drink the koolaide. Your trying for payback because of move ons attack on Gen, Petraus, keep tryin i love a good fight! But remember marines come to win.
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:07 amReid is an idiot and Harkin even more stupid. I’ll take Lugar any day over those two lumps of mental clay. Anyone ever hear of fact checking. The transcript is out there and Limbaugh did not defame jerks like Soldier Democrat, he was talking about ABC’s story of fake soldiers [that kind of phony] and questioned why anti-war causes latch on to people without checking, but oh yeah, you have a coulple of dufuss Senators leading you on.
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:30 amI know it is Democrat Soldier, but he is Bass Akwards
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:32 amAfter I read most of these comments it became obvious to me why liberals cannot be trusted with the defense of the nation.
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:36 amWell I was listening to The Rush Limbaugh Show when he was talking about the “phoney soldiers”. He did not call anyone in the active military a phoney soldier, and anyone that says he did is an outright liar! Anyway, when you join the military what do people think that you do, plant daisies all day and lay at the beach just to collect a paycheck.
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:49 amHarkin is a lying ratbag and phony Vietnam combat pilot Tom Harkin talking, by the way, trying to milk yet another phony Soros-manufactured “scandal” for more than it’ll ever be worth, along with all those other “mainstream” Commiecrats like Dirty Harry “When I Get Bought, I Stay Bought!” Reid. You remember Tom Harkin, right?
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:50 amHARRY REID IS A LIAR.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:01 amHARKIN IS A SLANDERER.
TYPICAL LEFTIST DEMOCRAT PROCEDURES.
THE PACK ATTACK WON’T WORK THIS TIME……TOO MANY PEOPLE KNOW THE TRUTH.
KEEP EXPOSING YOURSELVES FOR WHAT YOU ARE! DISGUSTING DENAGRADING DOLT DEMOCRATS.
Fake Soldier Rush was talking about. The Seattle Post-Intelligencer report on the fake soldier.
A man who tried to position himself as a leader of the anti-war movement by claiming to have participated in war crimes while serving in Iraq is facing federal charges of falsifying his record.
Jesse Adam Macbeth, formerly of Phoenix, garnered much attention on blogs and in some alternative media after he began claiming in 2005 to have been awarded a Purple Heart for his service, which he said included slaughtering innocents in a Fallujah mosque. His story was contradicted by his true discharge form, showing that he was kicked out of the Army after six weeks at Fort Benning, Ga., in 2003 because of his “entry level performance and conduct.â€
A complaint unsealed Friday in U.S. District Court in Seattle charged him with one count of using or possessing a forged or altered military discharge certificate, and one count of making false statements in seeking benefits from the Veterans Administration…
…Macbeth claimed to have been shot in Iraq and to have suffered post-traumatic stress disorder, LaMont E. Stokes, an agent with the VA’s Office of the Inspector General, wrote in the charging papers. He collected more than $10,400 in benefits to which he was not entitled, Stokes wrote.
Stokes said he interviewed Macbeth in the Pierce County Jail in Tacoma, where he has been serving a sentence for fourth-degree assault, and that Macbeth admitted falsifying the documents because he was homeless and wanted to “sucker†anything he could out of the government.
Iraq Veterans Against the War and other organizations removed his allegations from their Web sites after learning they were false. In one videotaped interview, a skinny, stuttering Macbeth, dressed in a camouflaged jacket, described slaughtering hundreds of people in a mosque: “We would burn their bodies … hang their bodies from the rafters in the mosque,†he said.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:10 amWhen has any of you left wing loons cared a good G#d damn about any soilder? I would ask you to watch the PBS Doc on WW2. This is what fighting a war is all about. Thank god we didn’t have you HELPING us back then. Wouldn’t give one of my dead buddys for 100 of you limp wristed bastards. You think we wanted the war. NO Do you think we liked fighting and dieing NO. We did what we had too so you anti amercan idiots could spew your venom. Oh by the way we were drafted. Today you have the right to sign up or not. if you don’t like the war don’t sign up But don’t HELP the ones that do with your anti amercanism let them do there job. Watch the documentary and tell me how bad our boys have it
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:12 amdemocrat soldier… must be lonely in your unit (if you’re really in the military at all)
How disengenuous of you to actually join the military and say you’ll actually fight alongside real men.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:18 amIt would be nice to see the same ‘outrage’ from the Left when Democrat Senator Dick Durbin compared US soliders to Nazis-a far worse comment than what Rush said. But, then again, liberals are hypocrites.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:19 amRush Limbaugh cares more about the troops than most people care about there Children.
Dem’s are two faced hypocrites who are only for choice if they agree with you. If not then they smear you. Never fails and if you can’t see this your blind with an closed mind.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:19 amToday it’ll be Rush Limbaugh…will it be you, or me, or some other Joe Blow tomorrow who the elite powers in DC feel free to attack? Don’t you see the destructive nature of what the Dems & their attack machine are doing to people?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:19 amDoes anyone on the Left remember Dick Durbin? He called US solider Nazis.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 amSoooo… Harkin can claim to be a combat pilot flying missions over North Vietnam and Cuba fighting enemy Migs and conducting photo recon missions only to later admit that in fact, all he ever really did was ferry airplanes from Japan….
— Not even Rush has accused Harkin of being a phony –
Do liberals believe this is the type of person they want to listen to?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:33 am#508 – “When has any of you left wing loons cared a good G#d damn about any soilder?” Comment by lngshirt — October 2, 2007 @ 9:12 am
When I served from 86-90, I learned that being a republican meant selling out all American values for money and power based on the lies of the right-whiners.
What did you learn in the military?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:40 amRush smeared all those in uniform who are only doing what most Americans do, forming their own opinion. What is said is no better than what Ann Coulter said about the 9/11 wives. I’m not sure these kind of talk show host actually believe what they say or if it’s just for ratings.
Any Senator going on his show would only entice him to continue with such disgusting banter.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:42 am#511 – “Dem’s are two faced hypocrites who are only for choice if they agree with you.” Comment by Tatum — October 2, 2007 @ 9:19 am
The right-whhiners believe that life begins at conception and ends at birth. After the child is bor, right-whiners don’t care about “life”. Why else do they want to kill Americans in a war of occupation?
If Pres. Bush hadn’t gotten caught up in attacking Iraq, we would still be after Usama bin Laden! You know, the guy Pres. Bush promised he would capture “dead or alive”.
I guess right-whiner ‘promises’ only count if you’re rich and don’t have any family in the military.
Why do right-whiners hate the military so much???
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:44 amPamela61, Your a fool. More the pity.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:48 am#513 – Comment by joe — October 2, 2007 @ 9:21 am
“Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) yesterday offered a tearful apology on the Senate floor for comparing the alleged abuse of prisoners by American troops to techniques used by the Nazis, the Soviets and the Khmer Rouge, as he sought to quell a frenzy of Republican-led criticism.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/21/AR2005062101654.html
Why don’t you get back to us when Rush apologizes for slandering our soldiers.
Waiting. . . . waiting. . . . waiting. . . . .
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:48 am“Republicans divide Americans for $$$.
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — October 1, 2007 @ 4:01 pm”
Oh, and the Clintons are upstanding citizens that are out to save the world…..Wow, what a clouded vision you have!
Reps or Dems, neither are good for this country. They are all self-serving and a good portion of the staunchest supporters are those who benefit most or have their heads deepest in the sand. My experience lends me to believe that the more extreme, the cloudier the vision.
It’s funny, we talk about moderation and balance in our lives and how this healthy. Yet in politics, moderation is frowned upon.
Our country is in decline and the finger must be pointed in all directions.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:48 am#518 – “Pamela61, Your a fool. More the pity.” Comment by Tatum — October 2, 2007 @ 9:48 am
Why? For having an opinion that hasn’t been given to her by Rush? Or does she have to be in a “free speech zone” before she can exercise her First Amendment rights?
I guess that’s the only way your kind can operate. Get back to us when Rush gives you a response.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:50 amDemocrat Soldier,
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:52 amYour a Phony too.
Easy to spot.
Your sick and you need help and you need attention.
Pamela61, Your a fool. More the pity.
Comment by Tatum — October 2, 2007 @ 9:48 am
You are exactly what I describe as the problem in this country. You sound like an idiot by attacking and not saying anything of importance. It are comments like yours that water down and ruin tru debate. I read your posts, you do nothing but spew and regurgitate what you hear on the radio. At some point people, the dial must be turned off and you may have to form your own opinion. However, this requires thought and this energy that a lot of people of incapable of.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:55 amPoor MaverickCoast has little concept of reality and is simply another dupe of the Bushies. First, this was a war of aggression conducted with glee by the authors of the Project for the New American Century. 9/11 was the “new Pearl Harbor” they lusted for. All the other scenarios were simply to convince people like you that ‘good Americans’ support their president against evildoers. Second, supporting your government blindly and criticizing others for not doing so is exactly what the Germans did in 1938; I’m comparing you to German citizens of 1938, not our government to the Nazi’s. Third, there is no hidden nuclear bomb about to be detonated and we’re still torturing people. Think about that, Americans torturing people. If that doesn’t make you ashamed of the actions being taken in your name you are beyond redemption. Fourth, no one, absolutely no one, said the war in Iraq was going to be a long one. In fact Rumsfeld predicted we would be greeted as liberators and an aide was fired for claiming it would cost more than $2 billion. Don’t confuse the war in Iraq and the war against terror: When we invaded there were no Al Quadea there, and while Hussein did financially support terrorists he did so to a much lesser degree than Bush’es Saudi Arabian friends. Five” There is no civil war? Better tell White House spokesperson Perino who now uses that phrase as well as most Republican Senators. But perhaps you know better. Next, the surge is working? In what respect? The object of the surge was to provide time for the Iraqui politicans to work out some sort of peace agreement. Instead they went home for the summer and have made no gains, none, since the surge has started. If you honestly believe we can win this militarily you simply are not living in a rational world. And finally, American troops bring stability to that part of the world? That one is so ridiculous in so many ways as to be beyond comment. Buzzzz. Wrong on all counts.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:55 amSenator Tom Harkin,
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:57 amYou need to get back on the senate floor and apologize to every person who has ever had a Drug problem. The number is very high. Somewhere between 25 and 30 MILLION people have or had this problem. Al Gore Jr., All the Kennedy’s, Your Hollywood Friends, people in your own family, ect.
You used the senate floor to attack a person that you could never stand up to. I know you will never do it, but if you were a real man you would go the The EIB network and tell him to his face. I know you won’t because your not a man. Your a Lib. It was very immature of you. It sounded like something a 14 year old would say at high school.
#525 – “It sounded like something a 14 year old would say at high school.” Comment by Tatum — October 2, 2007 @ 9:57 am
Or a drug-addled, right-whining, pimpply-a$$ed, sycophant with his finger on the “mute” button talking with people on his show that disagree with his wrong-headed opinions.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:59 amGot to go. Someone has to pay for the Dem’s programs. Pam and Phony Democrat Soldier your both sick. Dodn’t set there all day. Get some help. It’s not free yet but you can find someone to help you. Bye.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:01 am#522 – “Your a Phony too. Easy to spot. Your sick and you need help and you need attention.” Comment by Tatum — October 2, 2007 @ 9:52 am
I got the help I needed when I ETS’d in 1990 and left the Republican party!
You, too, can open your mind to opinions that are not handed to you pre-chewed! All you gotta do is stop saying “dittto” and begin thinking for yourself! I know it’s not going to be easy, but you can do it if you really want to get away from the sway of the right-whiners!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:04 am#527 – “Bye.” Comment by Tatum — October 2, 2007 @ 10:01 am
Another lemming refuses to think for himself.
Oh, well! I’m sure he’ll get his opinions told to him by Rush when he deosn’t know what to think!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:05 amThe democrats wouldnt know the truth if it bit em on the butt, I was listening to the show and Rush was talking about one person Jesse MacBeth who was a phony soldier and that was it, he never said anything about soldiers who disagree with the war being phony it is an out and out lie.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:08 am#530 – Comment by dmurdock36 — October 2, 2007 @ 10:08 am
Wow, you sure listened (and repeated) the “spin” of Rush’s slander, first thing!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:15 amno I actually listened to the show the transcript of the entire show is right there on his site http://www.rushlimbaugh.com all you have to do is go and look and see for yourself, rather than continually spreading lies about Rush.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:19 amYo, dmurdock36, for your information the transcript on the Limbaugh site deletes one minute and 50 seconds of conversation between Limbaugh’s comment about phony soliders and his first mention of MacBeth. In other words he made the accusation then waited almost two minutes to name the person he was accusing.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:40 amThis site is just a hosed up and any other “Left Wing” site. Everyone from the left on sites like this are foul mouthed, grenade tossing and narcissistic. All they think about is them selves. It’s easy to be Secular Progressive when it doesn’t cost you a thing! “Give away the barn!! Just as long as it’s not my barn!!” “Right wingers are idiots”…wow what a deep thought… Now there’s a freakin’ debate waiting to happen! FYI, Moveon.org, Media Matters, et al… have been invited to come out of the dark and debate with O’Reilly, Hannity and now even Rush Llimbaugh. But they will not return calls or show up. Look you want a debate, bring it! I recommend that anyone who doubts the truth, do your own research! Check multipule sources, “THINK” for yourself for a change and figure it out. Anyone, left or right, who just “repeats” the story they “like” because of the ending it one they “approve” of is flat out “dangerous” for this country, the public safety and themselves. If you just want to “hate” the right, so be it! But hate it for the right reasons and be truthful. People in this blog i.e. “bilbobaggins” bring nothing to this table but vile rhetoric and solve nothing! But then again, a vast majority of “Left” websites I visit and this “dribbile” all over them. An argument vailed in emotion only and lacking factual backing is an argument with a moron. And that is weither youre left or right!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:40 amPeace.
it does not I listened to the show live and he was talking specifically about MacBeth not soldiers that disagree with the war, he never said it but I wouldnt expect liberal democrats to know how to handle the truth it is so strange to them. Now quit slandering rush who has never done anything but support our troops and get back to trying to lose the war like you have been trying to do for so long.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:49 amI have no use for Limbaugh but I did listen to the tape so I could hear and decide for myself.
And, to my dismay, Limbaugh did not bash our troops ; he was talking about people that pretend to be soldiers.
It is very hard to act like we have the high ground when we are willing to take things out of context and accuse people of things that we know they are not guilty of.
And, do we have to make fun of people, for over coming drug addiction?
This man is scum but we are not helping our cause when we ignore the truth and resort to personal attacks against those with whom we disagree.
Obama, is addressing this “slimey business as usual model.” We need to listen. We can rule with dignity if we elect people that want to.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:49 amUh, the soldier he called a “phony” was in fact a phony… what’s all the controversy again?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:50 amThe REAL “phonies” are these poser senators who love to hear the sound of their own voices as they pass meaningless resolutions condemning a person for practicing their right right of free speech. Hey senators, go back home and get a real job, you worthless leeches!
How fitting for Harkin to defend a phony soldier. The real story here is that nothing is happening in the new democrat led congress that promised so much. Its all about protecting their asses and trying to stay in power. No wonder their ratings are below even Bush and Chaney.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:51 amYou are lucky we dont do what Ann and Rush suggest, and that is drag all you liberals outta your houses and kill you and your family! One day we God fearing Americans who love our country will have to take matters into our own hands and exterminate all you lefty loons and that will rid the country of our problems. America will once again be thew greatest nation in the world once we eliminate all dissent to our great President and of course the greatest man ever…The Honorable Rush Limbaugh!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:54 amWhat disgusts me is not the Right or the Left, but all of YOU… My Fellow Americans… that allow either side to lead you around by the nose. Never would you take the time, reading and effort to truly get to the bottom of an issue, and therefore the Truth. Polarized is what you are, and Polarized is EXACTLY where they want you.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:56 amThink about it… how else can they maintain a two party system and be able to manipulate you one way or the other? Then we all run around wondering why we always get either “Tweedle-dee or Tweedle dumber”.
First, grow up. Then, wise up and realize One Very True Thing: The truth is somewhere in between! Only then will this country begin to make a lick of sense…. again.
#541 – “The Honorable Rush Limbaugh!” Comment by LoveDeath — October 2, 2007 @ 10:54 am
I take it you pop pills too, and live off Viagra (because your willy don’t work).
When you grow a pair, try enlisting. Or is that too much for your right-whining kind to do? I guess so! Coward!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:57 amI think most of these so called “progressives” now realize they took the bait and they’re wrong. Instead of “manning up” and admitting they jumped on the Media Matters bandwagon too soon they’re still trying to twist this story so they don’t have to say: “Rush, as much as we don’t like you or what you stand for, we were wrong!”
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:58 amDemocrat Soldier – you’re proof of intellectual vacancy on the part of the left. Did you come up with your deep thoughts on your own or were these pulled from Media Matters too?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:01 amRight on (no pun intended), Raincheck!
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:01 am#536 – “Liberals are lying about this topic.” Comment by Godfather2 — October 2, 2007 @ 10:41 am
Looks like Rush has given you your thought for the day to repeat, ad nauseum.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/09/rush_limbaughs_phony_soldiers/
“Limbaugh is no idiot but one of his favorite rhetorical devices is defining a group in a very narrow way and then claiming anyone who doesn’t fit that definition but nonetheless identifies himself that way is either a liar, a plant, misguided, or the like.”
Limbaugh has used the right-whining lemmings to enrish himself and his immoral life. I wish people would wake up to the lies, but then they’d have to think for themselves, and Rush has built his empire of lies on ensuring that his audience does not think, but only repeats “ditto”.
Right-whining lemmings. Pure and simple.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:01 amThe hypocricy (sp) of Harkin and Reid is galling.
Neither had the courage to take on Moveon or the NYT. Same goes for lack of backbone when Durkin (Illi. senator ?) called our soldiers worse.
But boy-oh-boy, both these chicken littles come out swinging against a boob like Rush Limbaugh.
And they wonder why we hold them in so little esteem. Do the Country a favor and just move on.
FlyoverJohnny
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:02 am#546 – Comment by garrettshayne — October 2, 2007 @ 11:01 am
Let me guess, Rush told you to say that.
Use your own brain, don’t co-opt the opinion of right-whiners as your own, unless you want to remian a lemming your whole life!
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:03 amYou left wingers are nothing but a bunch of punks. A person impersonating a soldier(Jesse McBeth) making false accusations is a phony soldier. And You left wing idiots held this guy up as a hero for being brave enough to come forward with these accusations. Now McBeth stands convicted for impersonating and being a Phony Soldier. Why haven’t all you sniveling left wing idiots apololgized for these false accusations about US Soldiers. Lets face it. Rush is great at destroying your Big Government, Cradle to grave left wing vomit that you people spew on a daily basis. Rush will weather this because he has the ability to fight back on his radio show. Typical left wing attempt to destroy the messenger. Democrats and all you Liberals believe in free speech as long as its speech you agree with.
Your left wing crap about supporting the troops is just that crap. “Lets bring the troops home so we can get rid of them”. Is the left wingers true colors when it comes to the troops. Democrats and the left wing press are the biggest allies Osama and the rest of the terrorists have. Oh, I know that makes you mad all you left wingers but I can assure you these nuts watch the news and love everything you have to say thats negative about this war on terror. The truth hurts doesn’t it. Thats why liberals avoid it.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:05 am#551 – “You left wingers are nothing but a bunch of punks. A person impersonating a soldier(Jesse McBeth) making false accusations is a phony soldier.”
And Rush dodged the draft because of a pimple on his ever-fat a$$! Right-whiners run from THAT truth, doncha?!?!?
Pres. Bush sure loves Usama bin Laden! Why hasn’t he done didlly-squat to find him? (Promises mean NOTHING to right-whiners!) I guess Pres. Bush will be held as “honorable” by those who want our soldiers to die from not funding their armor, but you right-whiners run from THAT truth, doncha?
Right-whining lemmings. Sad, but the truth doesn’t spin, no matter how much Rush lies!
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:09 amjust found this via drudgereport – read as many of the comments as i could…we’re all just going back and forth like we did in the school yards.
i guess, we all here have our lives in perfect order where our “enemies” are our friends and we do right by everyone…you and i always know how someone else should live and think because we’ve got it all together…ok.
let’s listen to ourselves…a bunch of us our in complete denial of our own hypocrisy…
whoever came up with that stupid adage “united we stand…divided we fall” must have made the observation after the latter portion of that statement.
Good Lord! We’re all a bunch of ninnies going back and forth like cackling hens.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:09 amGodfather2,
You must remember to a liberal its the accusation that counts, not the truth.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:11 am#552 – “See post 547 for a classic example of liberal subterfuge.” Comment by Godfather2 — October 2, 2007 @ 11:09 am
Post #547 (as of 11:05 today) “Right on (no pun intended), Raincheck!” Comment by scauley — October 2, 2007 @ 11:01 am
Right-whiners mistake their own supporters for liberls!
Right-whiner mistakes are obviously the fault of liberals, right? /sarcasm
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:12 amThis is absolutely unbelievable how this lie has grown. Rush was speaking of an actual phony soldier. The man was never in combat and was all over the news talking about the atrocities that he witnessed. HE NEVER GRADUATED BOOT CAMP. I do believe the time has finally come for decent real Americans to start shooting liberals in the streets. Liberal = STUPID. Liberal + LAZY. Liberal = COWARD. Liberal = LIAR. The only good liberal is a DEAD liberal.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:17 amDemocrat Soldier
You’re dead on. I have a direct line to Rush and just got off the phone with him. “The truth of the matter is fiction, and that’s what serves their purpose” – Rush Limbaugh 2007
You’ve posted another terrific example of intellectual bankruptcy!
Maybe you should pulish a book and call it: Deep Thoughts by Democrat Soldier.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:19 amLets attack Rush because his ratings are too high and he is just too darn effective at shooting holes in our left wing message. Maybe if we can discredit him enough we can minimize his effectiveness.
To bad lefties. Rush has already blown holes in this attempt. By the way, all you Democrat/leftwing nuts. So Sorry about Air America. It truly was radio programing that kept you on the edge of your seat. Not.
A suggestion for you radio starved left wingers. Tune into “Radio Havanna Cuba”. They broadcast in Engish on shortwave radio around 9PM eastern. You could swear you were listening to a Radio Station programed by Howard Dean right from DNC Headquarters. It is truly amazing. I am convinced that this is where the Democrats get their talking points. I assure you as a left wing Democrat you will truly enjoy what this Communist Programed Radio Station has to offer.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:26 amLefties Tune in to Radio Havana Cuba. Here is radio that speaks the truth only as our great father Fidel knows it. Come home all you lost Democratic/Liberal Radio Starved souls. Radio Havana will get your left wing message out to the masses. Radio Havana Cuba will stand shoulder to shoulder with Democrats because our message is the same. You don’t believe it. Listen. You will not be dissapointed.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:39 amDear 560
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:41 amI am just venting. However, I do love your proposal on a one day a year event to exterminate liberals. Get this law passed quickly. What a great day it would be. The fake soldier just took his play book from John Kerry and lied about atrocities that he witnessed. At least John Kerry made it a point to go spend a couple of months in Vietnam before he came back and lied to congress and spent the rest of his life subverting anything American. This new fake soldier was booted from boot camp and never left the United States and is lying about the things he witnessed. That fake soldier should be hung right next to Harry dumbass Reid and Tom dumbass Harkin. Every real American should be ashamed of this congressional leadership we have now. What an absolute joke. Go get em Rush.
why don’t the democretins go after ABC news who did the original story on the phony soldier (NO quotations… the guy IS a phony) Why go after Rush? OH I know why… cause ABC News is a left wingnut outfit and Rush is right (as usual)
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:41 amLiberalism, Communism, Socialism, Stupidity
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:42 amIs There A Difference?
F**k Democraps
no difference :)
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:43 amwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Air Amerika tanked and Rush gets the ratings! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! it’s not fair!!!! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:44 amAs a democrat, I am ashamed of the people posting that have not bothered to listen to the tape. Harkin and Media Matters are misleading us.
Let’s save our credibility and get the facts before we condemn. This is going to backfire on us and it is because we trust our leaders more than ourselves. Listen to the tape and make up your own mind.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:48 amListen to the tape and make up your own mind.
Comment by PanhandleRam
We already have. Why do you give rhetorical cover to someone who insulted the troops?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:55 amComment by Ken Taylor
Why do you give rhetorical cover to someone who insulted the troops?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:56 amhow is telling the truth rhetorical cover?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:58 am“Ronald Reagan was a terrorist-supporting president.â€
Comment by Godfather2
Fixed it for you.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:59 amRush is a coward, who ducked service by not washing his ass. He attacks real soldiers, and you guys suck it up like creamed corn. So much for the fake talking point about conservatives supporting the troops.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:03 pmYou may not be a liar but you are on the side of liars. Consider the company you keep.
Comment by Godfather2
Says another WMD bedwetter. You’re a rube, who can’t think for himself without Big Daddy telling you what to think. Synchophant is a word that fits you well.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:06 pmbarfly are you really that stupid? Rush never attacked the troops he attacked McBeth who lied just like you are doing. I can think of nobody who supports our troops more than rush. Liberals are the ones always attacking the troops trying to lose the war and lying about our own troops, I guess it shouldnt surprise me by now but it does.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:07 pmRush gets busted for altering his transcripts, and you guys jump to lick his ass. Too bad independent thought isn’t a prerequisite for being considered a conservative.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:09 pmhe didnt alter his transcript if you had actually listened to the show you would know this.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:09 pm489 – Comment by roboright — October 2, 2007 @ 3:54 am
And the reason you’re too much of a coward to have enlisted is. . . . . . . (deafening silence)
I guess neo-cons can only spout words of phony patriotism, and not take actions of patriotism.
Comment by Democrat Soldier — October 2, 2007 @ 7:51 am
Uhh, the silence comes from actually having to turn in for some sleep, junior. And the “robo” thingie is derived from the fact that I have more metal in my frame than most new cars. I was run over by a bread truck on my bicycle at age 11 and spent two years in and out of surgery and three in a wheel chair. I registered for the draft and showed up for my physical back in ‘71. Not surprisingly, they didn’t want me. I’ve donated thousands of dollars to Wounded Warriors and Soldiers Angels supporting our troops. WHat exactly are you doing for our serving troops besides disparaging those actually support them? Nothing? I thought so.
Yer a loser.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:20 pm“he didnt alter his transcript if you had actually listened to the show you would know this.”
Comment by dmurdock36
From the September 28 edition of Premiere Radio Networks’ The Rush Limbaugh Show, including (in bold) the portion of the original segment cut from Limbaugh’s “entire” audio clip:
LIMBAUGH: I was not talking, as Contessa Brewer said here, about the anti-war movement generally. I was talking about one soldier with that “phony soldier” comment, Jesse MacBeth. They had exactly what I’m going to play for you. This is Michael J. Fox all over again. Media Matters had the transcript, but they selectively choose what they want to make their point. Here is — it runs about 3 minutes and 13 seconds — the entire transcript, in context, that led to this so-called controversy.
[begin audio clip]
LIMBAUGH: I — it’s not possible, intellectually, to follow these people.
CALLER 2: No, it’s not, and what’s really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.
LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.
CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they’re willing to sacrifice for their country.
LIMBAUGH: They joined to be in Iraq. They joined —
CALLER 2: A lot of them — the new kids, yeah.
LIMBAUGH: Well, you –
[begin Limbaugh edit]
LIMBAUGH: — know where you’re going these days, the last four years, if you signed up. The odds are you’re going there or Afghanistan or somewhere.
CALLER 2: Exactly, sir. And, and my other comment was — and the reason I was calling for — was to report to Jill about the fact that we didn’t, didn’t find any weapons of mass destruction. Actually, we have found weapons of mass destruction in chemical agents that [inaudible] been using against us for awhile now.
I’ve done two tours in Iraq. I just got back in June and there were many instances of — since [inaudible] not know what they’re using in their IEDs [improvised explosive devices]. They’re using mustard artillery rounds. The VX artillery rounds in their IEDs.
Because they didn’t know what they were using, they didn’t do it right, and so it just kind of — it, it didn’t really hurt anybody but there are — those munitions are over there, it’s just — it’s a huge desert. If they’ve buried it somewhere, we’re never gonna find it.
LIMBAUGH: Well, you know, that’s a moot point for me right now –
MIKE: Rush —
LIMBAUGH: — the weapons of mass destruction. We gotta get beyond that. We’re, we’re there. What — who cares if, if — we all know they were there and, and Mahmoud [Ahmadinejad, Iranian president] even admitted it in one of his speeches here about — talkin’ about Saddam using the poison mustard gas or whatever it is on his own people — but that, that’s moot, right? What, what’s more important is all this is taking place now in the midst of the surge working.
And all of these anti-war Democrats are getting even more hell-bent on pulling out of there, which means that success on the part of you and, and your colleagues over there is, is a great threat to them.
[end Limbaugh edit]
LIMBAUGH: It’s just, it’s frustrating and maddening, and it is why they must be kept in the minority.
Look, I want to thank you, Mike, for calling. I appreciate it very much. I gotta — let me see — got something — here is a “Morning Update” that we did recently talking about fake soldiers. This is a story of who the left props up as heroes. And they have their celebrities.
One of them was Jesse MacBeth. Now, he was a “corporal,” I say in quotes — 23 years old.
Say what, fool?
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:21 pmIt seems to me that as a group the Democratic party and their followers are people that truly hate Americans and especially the values that being an American stands for. As a veteran of a past war, another war that was won in the field against a truly vile enemy and lost by the cowards in congress which seems more and more on both sides of the isle. The values of a soldier and hopefully of Americans of Duty, Honor and Country are clearly abandoned by the left.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:22 pmI am no fan of Rush Limbaugh but do believe that the idiots of the house trying to concoct a resolution based on at best half-truths is clearly despicable. And then to equate it with the condemnation of move-on.org for their hateful ad about General Petraeus is absurd in the extreme.
A basic tenant of our Bill of Rights is the right of free speech but that right was never intended to include slander and blatant distortion of the truth for gain either political or financial.
These leftists, both in and out of congress, who clearly hate America and Americans need to be brought up short. Unfortunately it is not going to be by the left leaning media who seem to believe that the truth is secondary to their agenda. Rush and others in talk radio as well as Bill O’Riely correctly identify these people as the “elite†media. The “elites†justify their distortions by believing that if they can take power in government, they and their “better ideas†will do what is best for the country because they know best. If you look at their own words they will tell you that they are superior to the rest of us who they refer to as the “little people†and then refer to those who believe, as the founders believed, that a well informed citizenry can make the best decisions for themselves and the country. Therefore it is necessary to misinform the people to advance an agenda that must be hidden from the people “for their own goodâ€. These are the people who “Betray Usâ€, not the ones who still believe in the greatness of this country BECAUSE OF it’s people not because our country is broken and needs to be fixed so it can become great. These are the people who are either ignorant of history or choose to ignore it.
These are the people who knowingly or unwittingly are following the precepts of Marx and Lenin to the ultimate impoverishment of the spirit and wealth of this country as it has done to all the other nations that have followed this path. The definition of insanity is doing the same things and expecting different results. By that definition, by and large, those on the left are insane.
The only way to deal with tyrants is to confront them and defeat them. There is no dealing with a Hitler, Stalin, or a Kim Jon Il and trying to is just another example of insanity. These people only respect power not reason or values. We cannot clean up the world at once but by removing one tyrant such as Sadam and keeping that strong backbone, the others who would do the peoples of the world harm take pause. If the perceive weakness, they will advance their evil agenda.
I want to be on the side of strength against oppression, not of concession to evil.
“It seems to me that as a group the Democratic party and their followers are people that truly hate Americans and especially the values that being an American stands for. ”
Republicans arm terrorists (Reagan) while lying to the American people about it.
And republicans revere him for his traitorous ways.
They are the ones who truly hate America.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:25 pmI want to be on the side of strength against oppression, not of concession to evil.
Comment by budflygy
Which is just what Reagan did by selling weapons to terrorists, to gain the release of American hostages. The problem is that his cowardly cowtow spurred additional hostage-taking, and subsequent arms for hostages deals. A truly sad episode in American history.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:28 pmDemocrats have to be Mad at someone and it’s hard for them to be Mad at there Leaders, so they pick different things to distract the Dem’s and the Dem’s go right for the bait, every time. Sad, they can’t even see it.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:34 pmTom Harkin needs to apologize to all the people who have had or do have a Drug problem. People in his own family have to be hagging their heads in disgrace. He won’t do it. He’s the Coward.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:37 pmI find it telling that no one disputes Reagan’s perfidy. And he was supposedly the “iconic” conservative.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:38 pmOne last post. I find it hilarious that Rush became such a media superstar while a full-blown addict, and none of his listeners could tell.
If your doctor were suddenly revealed to be such an addict, would you continue to use his services?
Apparently so.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:43 pmThe Left Wingers are going nuts again, still and FOREVER! When you try to lead with LIES you are bound to fail, as your Left Wing Democrat Leaders are now. The Left goes from lie to lie trying to make the whackos in the Dem party happy. Very difficult to do when ALL the top Dem presidential candidates say we will be in Iraq for years to come. So these Left Wing leaders hope to change the story to what Rush DID NOT SAY. Good try Lefties but most of us WORKING folks see thru your BS.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:44 pmThe Left Wingers are going nuts again, still and FOREVER! When you try to lead with LIES you are bound to fail, as your Left Wing Democrat Leaders are now. Comment by islandeagle — October 2, 2007 @ 12:44 pm
By lies, you mean like Rush altering his transcripts to lie about what he said?
So these Left Wing leaders hope to change the story to what Rush DID NOT SAY. Good try Lefties but most of us WORKING folks see thru your BS.
Comment by islandeagle — October 2, 2007 @ 12:44 pm
Good try, but the interTUBES has captured this new fangled thing called audio/video, which means that if you working folks don’t see through the BS with an instant playback, you aren’t a WORKING folk, but a BS SPREADER…
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:48 pmYou’re exactly right, selling arms to Iran was wrong and cannot be defended by the intention to free a latin American country from opressive, totalitarian government does not mitigate that. However, you might want to check history about selling arms to release hostages, your timeline is wrong, selling the arms to arm the contras happened many years later.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:51 pmAnd as is so typical of the left, you take one incident in a truly great administation that freed millions of people around the world as well as policies that built this country into an economic powerhouse, and used that one bit of history to “PROVE” that Reagan and the United States are “bad”. I am truely saddened by people who distort and defile this country and her people.
Barfly on ADDICTION and entertainers ! What about the Lefts GOD John Kennedy and his copious use of DRUGS (remember Dr. Feelgood) while in the White House?. And should we even mention the “Swimmer” Edward Kennedy and his intake of Alcohol. Also Rush did something ABOUT his addiction to pain medication. Has Edward Kennedy done anything about his alcohol use? See Barfly you can not win….better continue with what ever a Barfly does!
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:54 pmAnd no troll has been able to explain why it is only republican presidents who arm terrorists.
Comment by barfly — October 1, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
Barf-lie has big trouble recalling Slick and Albore setting up N. Korea to build nukes (”fooled us” said Amb. Notbright) and then approved the sale of nuke missile guidance systems to the Chicoms.
And BTW, barf-lie, only republican presidents DISARM terrorists.
Like someone said above, insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome. Barf-lie keeps asking this same question although it’s been answered to his chagrin. Insanity indeed.
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:55 pmOh just stop treading lightly around this dumbass barfly. He is a dumbf&*k. Who really cares what he thinks. He isn’t an American anyway. Go live in China. Nobody wants you here, probably not even your own family.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:16 pmOnly Republican presidents arm terrorists? You obviously don’t think Clinton selling nuclear secrets to the Chinese is along the same lines? It’s actually worse to teach them how to make weapons vs. selling a weapon to use on our enemy at the time.
And what does Reagan and drug addiction have to do with the Media Matters sleaze machine? I know, I know – you can’t argue the facts and you won’t admit fault so you point out the perceived weakness of others. Way to go!
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:17 pmThese are the right wing talk show heroes: Oliver North convicted by a jury of lying to Congress — and making his own foreign policy in the White House basement. G. Gordon Liddy served time for burglarly, trying to disrupt the democratic process. Rush Limbaugh: an admitted drug addict who threatened his maid into buying illegal drugs, and who used multiple prescriptions to obtain his fix. Scarborough, who quit Congress two months after the body of a female aide was found in his office. The former Mayor of San Diego who served time for corruption. Ann Coulter who filed a false voting registration to vote from a precinct in which she did not live — a crime for which people have gone to jail. There are more, but it gets too easy. These are the people preaching honesty, love for their country and criticizing liberals. These criminals are the heroes of the right wing.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:17 pmso democrat pretend-to-be soldier
you served between any conflicts at all? how nice.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:17 pmdon’t go there davidknows — the list of real criminals are overwhelmingly democrat, eg rostenkowski, jefferson davis, ted kennedy, et al..
– you’re all forgetting the real reason of this blog/comment trail:
Rush is being accused of saying something he didn’t, period.
he’s being accused by someone who really was a phony soldier
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:21 pmJust like a true progressive. Harkin shows his true “face” by attacking a person’s “disease”. I thought the Libs were here to help protect us from bigoted attacks like his. They are all two faced PHONIES.
See for yourself!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIoMsqEYyUU
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:22 pmBarfly must be a democratic whore that has been reemed out repeatedly by the likes of his hero Ted [hic] Kennedy and his ilk until his pathetic brain is nothing but vile semen.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:29 pmRush Limpdick lies. It is that simple. He couldn’t tell the truth if his life depended on it. You want proof? Just listen and think for yourself along with a little fact checking. Being a drug addicted draft dodger qualifies him to be a hero to troops? Hey Rush….show me your draft card, the one that got you out of the Army because of a zit on your ass.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:31 pmHey “D
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:33 pmHEY “DUMBOCRAP SOLDIER”, do you have a picture of George Patton on your wall? You would be the soldier he tried to slap reality into. You know what he’d call you today
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:35 pmYou know Texasborn, you got a nice wide stance there. I’m speaking about those people from whom you get your information and ditto points. Believe
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:39 pmme, if you want to start listing criminals it would be a long list of right wingers, including Tom DeLay, Mark Foley, Senator Men’s Room, Rep. phony house sale, lobbyist Kickback, it is a long and sad list. It is one of the reasons you lost Congress and are facing a true debacle in November 2008. But let us focus on your philosophical leaders, the talk show criminals.
Another mature, elected official who understands what is important to the country. Iowa should be proud.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:41 pmAnd Texasborn, he absolutely did say it — and one minute and fifty seconds after saying it identified one phony soldier — no plural there — and then eliminated that minute and fifty seconds from the transcript on his site. No wonder you believe him, you don’t have all the information.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:42 pm#515 demoncat soldier’ i too learned something when i served as a marine (under the greatest pres ) what i learned was that America is the greatest country, And that even limp wristed wienies should be protected. Since they are american, However ive been out for 20 years and keep thinking about the oath i took. TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY FROM ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. Kinda makes one wonder ? what better definition of a domestic enemy than the current as.holes in the damoncat party. Could that be why they want our weapons????
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:45 pmdavidknows you are nothing but a liar I listened to the show and he was talking about McBeth any other interpretation of it, is just an out and out lie which is exactly what I would expect from a liberal.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:45 pmdavidknows (what??)
Conspriacy theorist? Sounds like it. This particular “phony soldier” is only one of many that have done this. In this situation Rush was referring to this guy as one of many, but the many did not include all soldiers who disagree with the war – only soldiers who make up stories to push their agenda (i.e. John F. Kerry, who fought in Vietnam).
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:48 pmTom Harkin and Harry Reid, just two more reasons why only 11% (or is it 7% now) approve of Congress.
C’mon Dems and Liberals, I thought you guys were going to change the world for the better. What happened?! Can’t you end this war? Don’t you hold the strings to funding the war. Isn’t there more you could be doing to stop the war? No? Anyone? Hello???
Now all the major Democrat candidates are talking about the war lasting until 2013 or beyond. What happened to your firebrand “leaders” who were going to bring an end to this? Did they SCREW you? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Now you know why WE hate Democrats. You can’t trust ‘em.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:49 pmYou libs always show your true colors by name calling (Harken) and then your minions think that he has done something great by doing so. If you actually READ the transcript, you’ll actually see that Rush did not in any way call all vets who don’t support the war “phony soldiers”. He used a specific name, Jessie McBeth. For those of you who say he used a plural, it’s a week arguement, for there are many people who ‘fake’ being a soldier (see ABC news website for the story). For Harry Reid and Tom Harken to take the Senate floor to go after Rush is spineless and despicable. There have to be more pressing issues addressing the Senate…like raising taxes? Please educate yourselves, actually read the actual material, on which you’re commenting. Otherwise, you (as Reid and Harken did) look like absolute idiots. And go ahead, I’m ready for those on this post to call me names, too, I can take it.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:52 pmdmurdock, facts are facts. I too listened to that show. Rush is a terrific entertainer and the show is very funny. I’m listening and laughing at the callers who repeat exactly what he just said and then get complimented by Rush for being so smart. Any person who proudly calls himself a dittohead is simply announcing to the world that they don’t think for themself. You can hear this show any way you want to; I don’t call you a liar for hearing it your way. Let me repeat it, he made the comment about phony soldiers after hanging up on a man who claimed to be a Republican against the war — who Rush informed he wasn’t really be a Republican because no Republican could be against the war. That’s a fact. Rush then made the comment. That’s a fact. Rush then spoke for a minute and fifty seconds before mentioning MacBeth for the first time. That’s a fact. So rather than name calling, please point out my lies. That’s a challenge and if you’ve got any you’ll respond by using facts rather than just calling me more names.
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:52 pmBarfly , Grow up and use your big people words, As far as rush goes he never lies . As far as takin it to your left wing buddies he lets their words speak for him. You are all fools and it’s fun watchin you all choke on your own spittle! Also please stop using the name barfly. It’s an insult to drunks and flies!!! Just keep talkin, That holes gettin mighty deep!
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:52 pmdavidknows “he made the comment about phony soldiers after hanging up on a man who claimed to be a Republican against the war” blatant lie I was listening and he was talking about soldiers who lie about there service in the military to denegrate our troops that was obvious, if you cant see that then maybe you are not a liar maybe its just ignorance.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:02 pmThe Democratic Congress has a low approval rating because it hasn’t stopped the war. Actually, Congressional Democrats have a 38% approval rating while Congressional Republicans have a 24% approval rating. So my question to you, Tampachessdon is would you rather have the war ended so Congressional approval rating rises or keep things the way they are?
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:03 pmIt’s a simple question that requires no great intellect, so don’t be afraid to answer it. I do try to ask questions when I participate in a string like this and I do notice that most of the time rather than answering the question conservatives resort to name calling.
dmurdock, you could not possibly have been listening to that show and write that comment. You are entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts. Rush hung up on the previous caller who said he was a Republican against the war, to whom Rush responded by saying he couldn’t possibly be a Republican because he, Rush, had never met a single Republican who was against the war. The fact that it happened that way is not open to your opinion. Rather than simply calling me a liar, use facts to show me the lie. I just laid out the show as it happened. Obviously you don’t like facts, which makes you the perfect Limbaugh listener!
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:09 pmRush has more active Military Friends than anyone reading this has in total friends.
Dem’s are just trying to deflect their own failures.
The failures of the Democrats are HUGE & the Libs are pissed off.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:22 pmFirst let me say that I vote democrat and supported President Clinton because I felt that despite all the Paula Jones nonsense, he stiil did a competent job. I also worked as a Democratic campaigner ( Jimmy Carter ‘76). I’m sorry to have to be a witness to the final crack-up of this great political organization. I know the Republicans have their share of self-serving imbeciles, but Reid is obviously not a stable person. No doubt, the recent probable and small success in Iraq is making him very nervous in regards to his perception of his political stock. Unfortunately, the dove wing of the party is reacting in a somewhat hysterical manner. Witness these assinine resolutions. It’s been my opinion all along that the Democratic Party had to treat the war with kid gloves and be more aggressive on other issues. So far, they have accomplished nothing of note in this Congress. These resolutions against MoveON and Limbaugh are making a mockery out of this congress. The resolution against Limbaugh is even more moronic since it targets a talk-show host who naturally craves the attention.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:23 pmThe situation in Iraq is supposedly ( and probably) improving. The Dems should simply accept that and move on ( no pun intended). Unfortunately , Reid has already declared the war lost, so his political stock will be worthless if the US succeeds in quieting things down over there. My concern is that certain members of the Demo leadership are going to take the whole party down with them.
Godfather2, AMEN!
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:26 pmDavidknows – how many more times will you cut and paste your response? Who gives a rat’s ass what a DJ has to say. What did Howard Stern say today? How about Michael Savage or Kasey Kasem.
I’m still waiting to hear the brave Democrats in congress say “We were elected to end this war Mr. President and we are going to do it by cutting off funding and shutting down the government if need be”.
Of course, they’d first need a spine and then a dash of character. You see I, and most Americans, care MUCH more about what our elected public servants say and do versus some overpaid radio jock. Why do YOU care so much about talk show hosts? Shouldn’t you be demonstrating in the streets of Washington to end this war? Isn’t that why you voted the Dems in?
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:27 pmDavidknows, We are talking about your assertion that he was referring to soldiers who disagree with the war as phony soldiers, when it was obvious he was referring to actual phony soldier, Let me explain this so you can understand it
Phony Soldier – anyone who claims to be a soldier that witnessed things they could not have ever seen in other words liars looking for attention.
here is the exact transcript of the conversation before he gets to the phony soldier part since apparantly you only hear what yo want and you will notice that rush did not hang up on him.
CALLER: Well, I am a Republican, and I listened to you for a long time, and you’re right on a lot of things, but I do believe that we should pull out of Iraq. I don’t think it’s winnable. I’m not a Democrat, but sometimes you gotta cut the losses. I mean, sometimes you really got to admit you’re wrong.
RUSH: Well, yeah, you do. I’m not wrong on this. The worst thing that can happen is losing this, getting out of there, waving the white flag.
CALLER: I’m not saying that, I’m not saying anything like that.
RUSH: Of course you are.
CALLER: No, I’m not!
RUSH: The truth is the truth, Mike.
CALLER: We did what we were supposed to do, okay, we got rid of Saddam Hussein; we got rid of a lot of the terrorists. Let them run their country now. Let’s get out of there and let’s be done with it. We won it.
RUSH: I’m never going to be able to retire. It’s not going to work. You are depressing me.
CALLER: Well, sometimes, like you said, the truth hurts, Rush. Sometimes it hurts.
RUSH: I have explained this so many times. I can’t believe that you actually listen to this program a lot, because you’ve heard me say what I’m going to say to you. War is never “plottable” on a piece of paper or on a map. It never goes exactly as anybody thinks it’s going to go because nobody can predict the future, for one thing.
CALLER: That’s true.
RUSH: Thank you. So what’s happening now is that the very enemy that blew us up on 9/11 is facing us in Iraq. We can’t cave in defeat and run out of there and say, “Hey guess what, we won, we got Saddam.” We are going to be setting ourselves up for future disasters. We will never be able to have any other nation trust us as an ally when we have to go in there again. If we pull out of there before we take care of this, Mike, we’re just going to have to do it sometime later at greater cost.
CALLER: Are we ever going to take care of it, though? How long do you think we’re going to have to be there to take care of it?
RUSH: Mike, you can’t possibly be a Republican.
CALLER: I am.
RUSH: You can’t be Republican.
CALLER: Oh, I am definitely Republican.
RUSH: You sound just like a Democrat.
CALLER: No, but seriously, Rush, how long do we have to stay there?
RUSH: As long as it takes.
CALLER: How long?
RUSH: As long as it takes. It is very serious. This is the United States of America at war with Islamofascists. Just like your job, you do everything you have to do, whatever it takes to get it done, if you take it seriously.
CALLER: So then you say we need to stay there forever?
RUSH: No, Bill — (Laughing) or Mike. I’m sorry. I’m confusing you with the guy from Texas.
CALLER: I used to be military, okay, and I am a Republican.
RUSH: Yeah.
CALLER: And I do listen to you, but –
RUSH: Right, I know. And I, by the way, used to walk on the moon.
CALLER: How long do we have to stay there?
RUSH: You’re not listening to what I say. You can’t possibly be a Republican. I’m answering every question; it’s not what you want to hear, and so it’s not even penetrating your little wall of armor you’ve got built up. I said we stay to get the job done, as long as it takes. I didn’t say forever. Nothing takes forever. That’s not possible, Bill. Mike. Whatever. Nobody lives forever, no situation lasts forever, everything ends. We determine how do we want it to end, in our favor or in our defeat? With people like you in charge, who want to put a timeline on everything — do you ever get anything done in your life? Or do you say, “Well, I wanted to have this done by now, and it’s not, so screw it”? You don’t live your life that way. Well, hell, you might, I don’t know. But the limitations that you want to impose here are senseless, and they, frankly, portray no evidence that you are a Republican.
Another Mike. This one in Olympia, Washington. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.
CALLER: Hi, Rush. Thanks for taking my call.
RUSH: You bet.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:28 pmOctober 2nd, 2007 at 2:32 pm
I want some of what Harkin is smoking, I find it funny that the Dems get so riled up at a talk show host. Maybe they should be paying attention to the business of running this country like they were elected to do. Limbaugh can say almost whatever he wants, and I would bet that this is trivial compaired to what the Dems mouthpeice Al Franken has had to say about anything!
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:34 pmIf it wasn’t for Al Franken’s glasses I would swear he was talking out of his ass.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:37 pmActually, making a comment without giving the caller a chance to respond and taking another call is hanging up. I heard this, I heard Rush getting flustered and actually yelling — obviously for effect. But he did hang up rather than allowing the caller to respond.
The only reason I list the crimes of rightwing talk radio hosts is because that’s where so many of you get your marching orders. After all, there is a reason you so proudly refer to yourself as dittoheads.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:38 pmdavidknows you are so closed minded it is almost funny, how do you know Rush hung up I have listened to him for years and I know he has a policy of not hanging up on anyone, although he would be right in hanging up on this guy because he was wasting his time, how do you know the caller didnt hang up? Were you at the EIB studio at this time because this is the only way you could possibly know who hung up on who.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:44 pmDavidknows—-nothing
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:48 pmCongressional approval is at 11%. Not 38% and 24%. 11% is the number.
Bush has low approval ratings, however they are twice as high as congress. You can’t listen to what Rush said and not know that he was referring to the soldier that wasn’t a soldier and other soldiers that lie about their experiences, such as John Kerry. Everybody knows that is Rush’s position. It is of course a biased position just as all or our positions are biased. To claim anything other than this is an absolute LIE which is all stupid liberals do anyway. Remember folks,,, Liberal = STUPID, Liberal = LAZY, and Liberal = COWARD. As they have all shown, it also means LIAR.
I tell you the truth there are a lot of times I wish Rush would hang up on some of these idiots like the guy that called in trying to say that if you are against Democrats you are a racist because all African Americans are democrats which is absolutely the most rediculous argument I have ever heard but Rush allowed him his opportunity to make a fool of himself.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:50 pmWhy are dumb blonde acresses, dumb rock stars, dumb inner city crackheads, and the Kennedy family all liberals. Because they do not think for themselves. They are all very stupid people and they always seem to congregate in the liberal tent. I rest my case. Find all the dumbest most rediculous people you know, silly little queers, gang members, it doesn’t matter. They are all democrats. The democrat party is the coalition of the rediculous, crazy, sick, and stupid.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:10 pmwgr-85. Give Davidknows a break on his math skills. Haven’t you ever heard of million man math?
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:13 pmIf these “patriotic” Democratic Senators are so worried about denigrating the troops where were they on moveon.org? Sen. Carpetbagger even had the temerity to call Gen. Petraus a liar! These disgusting hypocrites are only patriotic when it suits their needs. They would never criticise the hand that feeds them. Shame on these flim-flam patriots.
Limbaugh does need to apologize. You see, I’m not a hypocrite like your Senate idols.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:14 pmRush has done and said nothing he needs to apologize for, the Democrats in the senate owe the citizens of this great country an apology for blatantly lying to the american people.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:18 pmHere’s a neat trick to try. Take Limbaugh off of the armed forces radio. The vast majority of the military love Rush Limbaugh. Go ahead, remove his show. Let’s just see who most of the soldiers believe in this story. I know the answer and so does everyone else on here. Let’s see if the soldiers would pick Harry Reid or Rush Limbaugh. I know what many soldiers would love to do with Harry Reid, but in the interest of protecting the constitution, they will protect Harry Reid as well.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:24 pmAnd why wgr_85 are Harvard, Yale, Columbia and the vast majority of professors at the most respected universities in the world liberals, while
the professors at Liberty University and Bob Jones University are conservatives? Remember, it is your people in the White House who have gotten us into this mess in Iraq, tortured prisoners for the first time in American history and destroyed our reputation around the world — at a cost of half a trillion dollars and without any progress.
Hey, Mission accomplished, right?
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:26 pmLet’s face it. The only smart democrat when it came to quotes of well known good people supporting him was John kerry who told us glowing remarks about himself that were told only to him and are dead. All dems should take this stance because otherwise anyone who checks can find out what liars they are.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:29 pmHey from Maine, is that supposed to be a racist comment? If not, please explain it. You should be ashamed of yourself — but I guess there is a reason your candidates were too scared to debate in front of a black audience.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:30 pmIs this Senator Tom Harkin the same blow hard that claimed he flew combat missions over Vietnam? In truth, he never got any closer to Vietnam than Japan. Harkin lied through his teeth about his combat experience to get elected and as usual, the stupes on the left bought his BS. He’s just as phony as the ‘phony soldiers’ described by Limbaugh. Harkin would do well to keep his yap shut.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:35 pmDavidknows – well first I won’t use someone’s addiction to drugs as a way to insult them. That really is mean spirited.
“Million Man Math” was a running joke on Rush around the time Louis Farrakahn organized the Million Man March on Washington. You can check facts, but turn out was well below 1 million attendees yet Farrakahn insisted they had a million people turn out for the event. Million Man Math is a jab at the disingenuousness of people who manipulate numbers to make a point. Dick.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:38 pmDavidknows said: Remember, it is your people in the White House who have gotten us into this mess in Iraq, tortured prisoners for the first time in American history and destroyed our reputation around the world — at a cost of half a trillion dollars and without any progress.
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I love “debating” Liberals. It’s like shooting retarded fish in a barrel.
We did not go into Iraq without to votes of hundreds of Democrats. And now, the new Democrat congress has the power in their hands to shut this thing down and cut off funding (thus saving us a trillion dollars from future war spending – see “Hillary Clinton”). Who is failing us now????
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:45 pmNumber one, I view Harvard and Yale as nothing more than elitist. I do not consider them intelligent people. They are not the ones that have built this great country. In fact, college dropouts that went out with a dream and ambition have done way more for this country than Harvard and Yale types. I went to college. I had the experience of listening to some of these idiot professors speak. Also, if you believe that how enemy terrorists are treated now by our military is the worst in history, WOW, you are an idiot. Ever hear of the prison ships during the Civil War? There has been a lot of progress. Two nations are building governments where ruthless leaders existed before. Bin Laden won’t show his face and many of his power circle are dead. Also, when our military has people like the ones that flew planes into our buildings, I don’t care if they beat the hell out of them every single day. Just because someone can quote Shakespeare means nothing to me. That isn’t intelligence. It is worthless memorization of nothing important.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:49 pmHarkin lied…..The hypocracy really does serve to amaze.
http://www.instapundit.com/archives/017246.php
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:57 pmAs far as respect around the world,,, at least we aren’t the laughing stock of the world anymore due to our former president getting his dick sucked by a fat intern. I really could care less what the rest of the world thinks or our foreign policy. It wouldn’t bother me to see the end of the United Nations. Talk about a collection of dumb worthless liberals.
October 2nd, 2007 at 3:58 pmHere’s a look at Davidknows’ girlfriend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIoMsqEYyUU
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:02 pmActually, the Republicans held a majority in the House and Senate as well as Yale graduate Bush in the White House when we attacked Iraq. I know you don’t consider graduates of Ivy League colleges intelligent, but hey, what does the rest of the world know compared to you.
And you, sad wgr_85, actually the world was laughing at you people for making a big deal out of consentual sex. The Big Dog is among the most respected people in the world — unlike the nincompoop in the White House now who can’t even speak the English language.
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:03 pmI cannot for the life of me figure out why you bunch of demorat morons don’t just read the transcipt and see that Rush did not call ANY soldier a phoney. Oh, that’s right, then you would have to admit that you are wrong, again.
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:12 pmAnd as for the demorat soldier. I think he is really a jihadist in camo clothing. Piss be upon you my ass raising friend.
And I cannot figure out why you people don’t read the transcript. Rush had just finished telling a caller who identified himself as a Republican who was against the war that he couldn’t possibly be a Republican because every Republican he knew was against the war. In other words, the caller was a phoney Republican. And then he started with a soldier who was against the war and referred to all people who claim to be soldiers and say they are against the war as phony soldiers. That’s in context. Only two minutes later, maybe after he realized what he’d done, did he bring up MacBeth.
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:20 pmListen, you people voted for this guy in the White House, you’re responsible for this mess. And it’s a shame that rather than debating an argument on the facts that you follow the lead of talk show and resort to name calling. Here’s the worst insult I can think of to call someone: Dittohead!
you still spreading your lies davidknows you cant possibly be that stupid do I need to post the whole transcript unedited hear so you can see how stupid you are. Please give it up you are wrong you know you are wrong but as a liberal you cant grasp the truth. It was nothing like you say and I posted what was said.
And then he started with a soldier who was against the war and referred to all people who claim to be soldiers and say they are against the war as phony soldiers
This is a blatant lie and you know it.
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:26 pmThere goes Davidknows with his cut and paste responses.
btw brainiac “consentual” should be spelled “consensual”. But why quibble over the proper use of the English language.
retarded fish…
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:27 pmthis is a direct quote from the military man you say was against the war
I’m one of the few that joined the Army to serve my country, I’m proud to say, not for the money or anything like that. What I would like to retort to is that, what these people don’t understand, is if we pull out of Iraq right now, which is not possible because of all the stuff that’s over there, it would take us at least a year to pull everything back out of Iraq, then Iraq itself would collapse and we’d have to go right back over there within a year or so.
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:31 pmnow only a true liberal could read that and surmise he is against the war
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:38 pmDavidknows LITTLE. Liberals are proof that God has a sense of humor! I think we all know the lies of the Liberals are here for ALL to see.
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:38 pmActually, the big dog is respected only by liberals around the world, and again, who cares what they think. I don’t wish to be a cheese eating, wine sipping surrender monkey. I don’t wish to live in a socialist country with 15% unemployment and no real opportunity. What made America great was the celebration of the individual not the group. Liberalism kills the individual in favor of the group. It dumbs down the society to the least common denominator. Liberalism better known as socialism is a failed system. It has failed every single time it has been tried. No socialist country has rose to the greatness of America and never will. If we embrace the philosophies of the world, we enter a never ending downward spiral. That my friend is the true face of liberalism. I never said I thought Bush was great, just way better than Kerry or Algore the fruit. Reagen was a great man. He went to Eureka college. I actually hope Hillary Clinton gets elected. It is the quickest way to sweep republicans back into congress, just as Bill managed to do.
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:42 pmbtw dmurdock, you probably mean ‘here’ rather than ‘hear.’ And you, fromMaine, the turnout to which you’re referring is actually one word, not the two words you’ve used twice. And I suspect it’s a typo to write, “without to votes of hundreds of Democrats…”
Sorry, Dittoheads.
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:46 pm#655 You are correct. He said that all people who claim to be soldiers. CLAIM is the key word here. If they claim to be soldiers but are not, like the person he was talking about, they are “PHONEY SOLDIERS”. Just join the jihad and get it over with. It seems like they need all the help they can get.
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:48 pmPiss be upon you my ass raising friend.
I am a democrat and I will say it: Harkin lied. Limbaugh did not bash our soldiers. (I actually listened to the tape.)
And, I am also ashamed of him for belittling a recovered addict. Pretty low.
We can win on the high ground. We just need to get there.
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:54 pmdavidknows that is all you have to say a spelling mistake I called you a blatant liar and that is the best comeback you have I typed hear instead of here, good one I want you to respond to the fact that you are lying about what Rush said. Why does he scare you? Afraid he is going to get the truth out there so people can make up there own minds. Well I guess that would be scary for a socialist I mean liberal, oh well there the same thing.
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:54 pmthank you panhandleRam at least there is one democrat with a conscience. I wish the rest of your party was more like you.
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:59 pmI know I probably misspelled that too, never could spell
October 2nd, 2007 at 5:00 pmRush has received has been honored by many veteran and current serving military groups for his unwavering support of the military. He is a champion of the US Military and supports them and thier mission to the hilt. His radio show is the most requested show by armed service personnel all over the world. Bill Clinton has written that he “Loathed the Military”. Democrats know they are not cared for by the military. Hell if only the military voted we probably wouldn’t have any elected democrats. That is why Democrats tried to keep Military Service Personnel Absentee ballots from being counted in the 2000 Presidential Election in Florida. Face it you libs. The country knows and the Military knows you are not thier friends.
For God sakes, could you imagine a political party during World War II saying “We’ve Lost” when military personnel were in harms way. Back in the 40’s that would be treason.
Well Harry Ried and the rest of the Democratic Leadership have said, “We’ve Lost the War”. There is not one of you Liberal Democratic Idiots that can defend these unconscionable statements. Statements like this undermine the mission, the president and give aid and comfort to the enemy. This is the ultimate in unpatriotic behavior.
October 2nd, 2007 at 5:05 pmsad sad dmurdock, let me go through it again and please, don’t let the facts hit you in the ass. A liar is someone who doesn’t tell the truth. The truth is that Rush referred to phoney soldiers one minute and 50 seconds before mentioning MacBeth’s name for the first time, and one his website he eliminated that one minute and 50 seconds. Now if you choose to deny that, that’s simply irrational. If you say it didn’t happen, that’s a lie. But there is no possible way simply stating the facts as they exist is a lie — unless you don’t want reality to be true, in which case you’re a conservative.
Rush scare me? Are you kidding? As Keith Olberman correctly refers to him, he’s a comedian. And you Dittohead, his joke is on you.
October 2nd, 2007 at 5:05 pmIsn’t it amazing that Osama Bin Ladin’s talking points in his last public statement sounded like they could have been written by Howard Dean Himself. Democratic Leadership in this country have done nothing but provide aid and comfort to these animals.
In fact the Democrats have provided aid and comfort to most of our enemies. Their words are echoed back in these countries public statements denouncing the United States. Give a listen to Communist Cuba Radio. Radio Havana sounds like a Democratic Party Commercial.
October 2nd, 2007 at 5:19 pmoh I am tired of you so here it is exactly what was said.
RUSH: There’s a lot more than that that they don’t understand. The next guy that calls here I’m going to ask them, “What is the imperative of pulling out? What’s in it for the United States to pull out?” I don’t think they have an answer for that other than, “When’s he going to bring the troops home? Keep the troops safe,” whatever.
CALLER: Yeah.
RUSH: It’s not possible intellectually to follow these people.
CALLER: No, it’s not. And what’s really funny is they never talk to real soldiers. They pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and spout to the media.
RUSH: The phony soldiers.
CALLER: Phony soldiers. If you talk to any real soldier and they’re proud to serve, they want to be over in Iraq, they understand their sacrifice and they’re willing to sacrifice for the country.
RUSH: They joined to be in Iraq.
CALLER: A lot of people.
RUSH: You know where you’re going these days, the last four years, if you sign up. The odds are you’re going there or Afghanistan, or somewhere.
CALLER: Exactly, sir. My other comment, my original comment, was a retort to Jill about the fact we didn’t find any weapons of mass destruction. Actually, we have found weapons of mass destruction in chemical agents that terrorists have been using against us for a while now. I’ve done two tours in Iraq, I just got back in June, and there are many instances of insurgents not knowing what they’re using in their IEDs. They’re using mustard artillery rounds, VX artillery rounds in their IEDs. Because they didn’t know what they were using, they didn’t do it right, and so it didn’t really hurt anybody. But those munitions are over there. It’s a huge desert. If they bury it somewhere, we’re never going to find it.
RUSH: Well, that’s a moot point for me right now.
CALLER: Right.
RUSH: The weapons of mass destruction. We gotta get beyond that. We’re there. We all know they were there, and Mahmoud even admitted it in one of his speeches here talking about Saddam using the poison mustard gas or whatever it is on his own people. But that’s moot. What’s more important is all this is taking place now in the midst of the surge working, and all of these anti-war Democrats are getting even more hell-bent on pulling out of there, which means that success on the part of you and your colleagues over there is a great threat to them. It’s frustrating and maddening, and why they must be kept in the minority. I want to thank you, Mike, for calling. I appreciate it very much.
Here is a Morning Update that we did recently, talking about fake soldiers. This is a story of who the left props up as heroes. They have their celebrities and one of them was Army Ranger Jesse Macbeth. Now, he was a “corporal.” I say in quotes. Twenty-three years old. What made Jesse Macbeth a hero to the anti-war crowd wasn’t his Purple Heart; it wasn’t his being affiliated with post-traumatic stress disorder from tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. No. What made Jesse Macbeth, Army Ranger, a hero to the left was his courage, in their view, off the battlefield, without regard to consequences. He told the world the abuses he had witnessed in Iraq, American soldiers killing unarmed civilians, hundreds of men, women, even children. In one gruesome account, translated into Arabic and spread widely across the Internet, Army Ranger Jesse Macbeth describes the horrors this way: “We would burn their bodies. We would hang their bodies from the rafters in the mosque.”
I stopped here. because if you read this you will see what he is talking about and he at no time refers to all soldiers that are against the ware as being phony he only refers to phony soldiers being those that are truly phony
October 2nd, 2007 at 5:37 pmas you can see the pause before mentioning the phony soldier Macbeth was caused because Rush was addressing what the caller was saying but as soon as he had addressed the callers question he went on to explain about the phony soldier and only a liberal could missinterpret this as referring to any soldier that disagrees.
October 2nd, 2007 at 5:40 pmWell I gotta go it just go busy at work I have to go to work so I can pay for all of you Liberals health care.
October 2nd, 2007 at 5:44 pmFor up to date Liberal/Democratic talking points tune into Radio Havana Cuba. Not only will you hear Democratic Talking Points Cuba Style. You’ll also hear Hugo Chavez’s Democratic talking Points.
October 2nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmSo, a “real soldier is proud to serve, they want to be over in Iraq, they understand their sacrifice and they’re willing to sacrifice for their country.”
And what if a soldier is all that — and still believes the war is wrong, as for example, Pat Tillman did. He felt the invasion of a soverign nation like Iraq was completely wrong. He did however believe we had a right and an obligation to destroy the Taliban who had offered support to the killers of 9/11. So how about it? Is Pat Tillman a phoney soldier?
I’m not accusing anyone of lying by the way. That is a word you people use all the time when you don’t want to deal with the facts. When the facts fail to support your argument you immediately attack the facts. At no point have any of you found a single fact I’ve written to be false. Not one. You may disagree with my conclusion, I understand you can see it your way. It’s not right but it’s not completely illogical. But I wouldn’t call you a liar for supporting Rush, I would simply call you a Dittohead. To me, that’s a much greater insult.
October 2nd, 2007 at 6:10 pmI dont know wich is worse the wacky democrats or the miligment scourge in the middle east.
October 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmSenators and leftists, you should be ashamed of yourself for not reading the entire transcript of Mr. Limbaugh’s. If you did, then you would surely know that he was NOT making a derogatory remark about all of the soldiers being “phony”, but only those who are actually being investigated for fraud (pretending to be a soldier who served in the war when they never even made it out of boot camp.)
It is the leftists (including some senators) who have bashed our troops over and over and over again! No one “demanded” an apology from any of them. But Mr. Limbaugh gets on a hot topic about a “phony soldier” (you know, one that pretends they served in the war, but never made it out of boot camp) and some lamebrain has to cut and paste the transcript in such a way as to make it appear one of the most pro-troops persons in America was degrading our soldier?!? Shame on all of you!
October 2nd, 2007 at 7:00 pmHee-hee, nothing gets liberals ranting, raving, and frothing at the mouth — and adopting a self-righteous, sanctimonious, finger-wagging demeanor over their usual spineless, wishy-washy, verbally and factually challenged disposition — than the mere suggestion (however contrived) that Limbaugh might have said something that could possibly serve to compromise his popularity and credibility. You lefties really are beside yourselves, shaking in your shoes and trembling with rage, when it comes to right-wing media and the remarkable amount of resonance enjoyed by conservative broadcasts.
October 2nd, 2007 at 7:02 pmCW02 sends…
October 2nd, 2007 at 7:14 pmThank you so much for the sacrifices you have made for our country. You and all of the other soldiers are in my prayers daily. You have far more people supporting you and backing you than you can imagine and the leftists love to report. Thank you for speaking you peace on this site.
God bless you!
You Democrats/Leftwingers hate Limbaugh so much you will grab on to anything in the hopes of discrediting him. To bad so sad, your twisting and spinning has been revealed for what it is. A lie. The transcripts show Rush is right and once again you are wrong. You tried to make an issue out of the Joke song, “Obama the Magic Negro” and paint Rush as a biggot. That didn’t work either because a black columnist called Obama that in a News Column. Rush is to smart for you leftist idiots. You can’t beat him in the arena of Ideas so you try to smear him. Rush is fighting back. He has once again demonstrated to the American people just how viscious and how low liberals will stoop to gain power in this country.
There are “phony soldiers” out there that liberals have held up as genuine in order to push for American Defeat. ABC has done stories on phony soldiers.
When a leading Democrat says that good news from Iraq is bad for Democrats. I have to wonder whose side Democrats are on. They certianly aren’t on America’s side. Winning in Iraq is good. American Victory is good. You people make me sick. You want power for yourselves at any price.
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:42 pmkmpk, I’m afraid reasonable arguments fall on deaf ears here. Neither logic nor truth are heeded by Democrats.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:19 pmHere’s a question.
If your doctor was revealed to be a drug addict, and had been treating your family for years while he was high, would you still use him?
Judging by the synchophantic chorus, I guess the answer would be “yes.”
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:32 pmWow,
Glad I don’t have to clean up now that all the sh*t-flinging Repub monkeys are done parading through here. This was definately the “C” team, as their talking points were stale and have lost their effectiveness (Clinton! Commies! Surrender monkeys! etc.).
The Concern Trollsâ„¢ were especially poor (”As a lifelong Democrat, I sometimes wish we didn’t hate America and love Osama so much…”).
My Conclusion? These republic wingnuts hate at least 50% of their fellow Americans more than they hate Al Qaeda.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:46 amWhat is really interesting about this whole discussion is the fact that a week before Rush mentioned the “Phoney Soldier” phrase, the news did a big report on the Phoney Soldiers” but nobody condemed the media about that. But let a conservative say it and the s%^t hits the fan. Talk about double standards.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:44 amI think this article says it all.
By Noel Sheppard | October 2, 2007 – 11:39 ET
On Monday, Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) stepped onto the floor of the Senate and strongly denounced talk radio host Rush Limbaugh for what have proven to be out of context statements made by the conservative personality on his program last Wednesday.
Yet, with the exception of a CNN segment aired Monday, and articles by Fox News, USA Today’s On Politics blog, The Hill, NewsMax, and the New York Post, virtually no major media outlets covered Reid’s statements.
Not the New York Times. Not the Washington Post. Ditto all three broadcast network evening news programs Monday, and the Associated Press.
This raises an important question:
AdvertisementHave most major press outlets correctly concluded that the leftwing organization Media Matters did indeed cherry-pick and misrepresent Limbaugh’s statements thereby making earlier reports on the subject erroneous?
Or, did they recognize how hypocritical it would be to castigate Limbaugh for basically reiterating what ABC’s Brian Ross and Charles Gibson reported last Monday evening just two days before Rush made his statements?
Of course, a more cynical view would be that the media – now that it has been shown that Democrat presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton admitted her connection to Media Matters – want to bury this story as quickly as possible so as to shelter her and her husband from any scrutiny concerning these ties.
Regardless of the reason, there’s been a peculiar silence regarding Reid’s statements Monday, and, although the leftwing organization VoteVets.org is about to run a rather disgraceful ad denouncing Limbaugh, most media outlets appear to be running away from this story as fast as they can.
Whether this continues is anyone’s guess, as is the cause.
Stay tuned.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:50 amThe only comment that comes to mind is that anyone that truly believes Rush diparaged our soldiers needs to take another long pull on their cup of Kool-Aid.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:11 amBy JOSE LAMBIET
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 05, 2007
No, Sen. Tom Harkin, radio talker Rush Limbaugh isn’t back on drugs! So says the state of Florida.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:07 pm………
Now, what do you say?