Comments on: Podhoretz: ‘I Believe Bush Is Going To Order Airstrikes On Iran Before He Leaves Office’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:57:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-5/#comment-4100729 Bad Eye Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:50:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4100729 Comment by Chocolate Jesus — October 2, 2007 @ 8:14 am Good post...I gave it a "recommend." Comment by Chocolate Jesus — October 2, 2007 @ 8:14 am

Good post…I gave it a “recommend.”

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-5/#comment-4100530 Chocolate Jesus Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:14:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4100530 Bigfoot, by your "logic", why arent we attacking North Korea? They almost certainly actually have nukes. Arent they the more "imminent" threat? Shouldnt we go after them first? The smoking gun is already a mushroom cloud you know? You can ramble on about mistranslated statements from Iranian figureheads all you want, the fact remains, we've seen much more bellicose stuff come out of North Korea who is actually a equally, if not more potent force. Yet you seem to have focused in on Iran just like your heroes are. You dont seem to mind Saudi Arabia arming Iraqi insurgents.....in fact... we're not only not bombing saudi arabia, but we're selling them weapons.. doesnt seem like a very consistent thing to do, seems to me like we're rewarding the fact SA is funding terrorists and throwing government sanctioned telethons for the terrorists in Palestine as well. Oh let me guess.. they like us and sell us oil, so we turn a blind eye to their terrorists transgressions, right?. And do you understand that Nuclear weapons have changed the balance of everyting? Do you understand that the Iranian government does not want to bring about a nuclear holocaust by trying to "wipe israel off the map"... do you have any evidence that these guys running the show in Iran have suicidal ambitions? Do you understand that Iran has never expressed any interest or intent on invading anyone? Do you have any evidence that Iran has ever expressed interest in invading anyone? Do you know that Iran has more jews than ANY middle eastern country other than Turkey? Do you understand that Zionism (which Iranians dont like) is not the equivalent of Judaism? Christ, why am I even wasting my time. You dont know the difference between "accoutant" and "accountability". You make knee jerk arguments based on not knowing the difference . You show us articles claiming abramhoff is "directing" money to dems but then refuse to back it up with a single specific number going from Abramhoff to a dem. Please explain, for us dullards, 1) exactly what distinguises Iran from other regimes that dont like us , (and please please dont use the "wiped off the map thing", because is a mistranslation, and if you dispute that, please tell the words he spoke, in his brown man language and translate into "wiped off the map" for us) 2) which militaries you think are inferior to Iran? the UNited States? Israels? 3) How you think Iran could develop a military that could conceivable ever threaten us? 4) How to distinguish Iran as a unique threat that should be dealt with while others should not. I havent seen you beating your chest for us to bomb North Korea, even though they've been thumbiing thier nose at us and developing nukes under our nose. Strange coincidence, you hero dumya aint either. Please explain why Iran is comparable to Germany, but North Korea is not. North Korea is a dictatorship, with a history of invading its neighbors and run by a singul omnipotent despot, much like Germany was. Iran has NEVER since the birth of christ invaded its neighbors, its not run by a dictator (but we dont expect idiots who dont understand the difference between accoutant and accountability to be able to fathom than the short little man talking smack at the UN isnt the one calling the shots in Iran), and its military is nothing compared to either americas or to the nuclear capacity of Israel. Can you please give us some more of your brilliant articles comparing and contrasting WW II Germany with both Iran and North Korea, that explain why North Korea is not like Germany but Iran is? 5) If democracy in the middle east is such a good thing, please explain why we initiated hositilities with iran years ago by overthrowing their democratically elected government and installing a dictator? I thought dictators were bad.. 6) What, exactly, do you propose we do with Iran after we bomb it? Give it "democracy" like in IRaq? And if Syria tries to get involved in the Iranians "democratic" process, we bomb them to, right? Bigfoot, by your “logic”, why arent we attacking North Korea? They almost certainly actually have nukes. Arent they the more “imminent” threat?
Shouldnt we go after them first? The smoking gun is already a mushroom cloud you know?

You can ramble on about mistranslated statements from Iranian figureheads all you want, the fact remains, we’ve seen much more bellicose stuff come out of North Korea who is actually a equally, if not more potent force. Yet you seem to have focused in on Iran just like your heroes are.

You dont seem to mind Saudi Arabia arming Iraqi insurgents…..in fact… we’re not only not bombing saudi arabia, but we’re selling them weapons.. doesnt seem like a very consistent thing to do, seems to me like we’re rewarding the fact SA is funding terrorists and throwing government sanctioned telethons for the terrorists in Palestine as well. Oh let me guess.. they like us and sell us oil, so we turn a blind eye to their terrorists transgressions, right?.

And do you understand that Nuclear weapons have changed the balance of everyting? Do you understand that the Iranian government does not want to bring about a nuclear holocaust by trying to “wipe israel off the map”… do you have any evidence that these guys running the show in Iran have suicidal ambitions?

Do you understand that Iran has never expressed any interest or intent on invading anyone? Do you have any evidence that Iran has ever expressed interest in invading anyone? Do you know that Iran has more jews than ANY middle eastern country other than Turkey? Do you understand that Zionism (which Iranians dont like) is not the equivalent of Judaism?

Christ, why am I even wasting my time.

You dont know the difference between “accoutant” and “accountability”.

You make knee jerk arguments based on not knowing the difference .

You show us articles claiming abramhoff is “directing” money to dems but then refuse to back it up with a single specific number going from Abramhoff to a dem.

Please explain, for us dullards,

1) exactly what distinguises Iran from other regimes that dont like us ,
(and please please dont use the “wiped off the map thing”, because is a mistranslation, and if you dispute that, please tell the words he spoke, in his brown man language and translate into “wiped off the map” for us)

2) which militaries you think are inferior to Iran? the UNited States? Israels?

3) How you think Iran could develop a military that could conceivable ever threaten us?

4) How to distinguish Iran as a unique threat that should be dealt with while others should not. I havent seen you beating your chest for us to bomb North Korea, even though they’ve been thumbiing thier nose at us and developing nukes under our nose. Strange coincidence, you hero dumya aint either. Please explain why Iran is comparable to Germany, but North Korea is not. North Korea is a dictatorship, with a history of invading its neighbors and run by a singul omnipotent despot, much like Germany was. Iran has NEVER since the birth of christ invaded its neighbors, its not run by a dictator (but we dont expect idiots who dont understand the difference between accoutant and accountability to be able to fathom than the short little man talking smack at the UN isnt the one calling the shots in Iran), and its military is nothing compared to either americas or to the nuclear capacity of Israel.

Can you please give us some more of your brilliant articles comparing and contrasting WW II Germany with both Iran and North Korea, that explain why North Korea is not like Germany but Iran is?

5) If democracy in the middle east is such a good thing, please explain why we initiated hositilities with iran years ago by overthrowing their democratically elected government and installing a dictator? I thought dictators were bad..

6) What, exactly, do you propose we do with Iran after we bomb it? Give it “democracy” like in IRaq? And if Syria tries to get involved in the Iranians “democratic” process, we bomb them to, right?

]]> By: woodguy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-5/#comment-4100489 woodguy Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:00:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4100489 He likes commas, though. He likes commas, though.

]]> By: woodguy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-5/#comment-4100488 woodguy Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:58:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4100488 I seldom comment at this site, but I have to say I'm amazed at the time and effort expended in replying to O.hoofin mouth. This entity can't spell, has no sense of English language syntax or proper sentence constuction , yet you folks spend hours trying to argue with someone whose (lack of) mind is already made up. Like arguing with drying paint. I seldom comment at this site, but I have to say I’m amazed at the time and effort expended in replying to O.hoofin mouth. This entity can’t spell, has no sense of English language syntax or proper sentence constuction , yet you folks spend hours trying to argue with someone whose (lack of) mind is already made up.

Like arguing with drying paint.

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-5/#comment-4100191 Bad Eye Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:25:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4100191 <em>Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — October 1, 2007 @ 6:52 pm</em> I've asked him and others to equate the issues raised by the MoveOn ad to calling Patraeus a traitor, and O.B. (hey...isn't that a brand of tampon?) has declined every time. Good luck. Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — October 1, 2007 @ 6:52 pm

I’ve asked him and others to equate the issues raised by the MoveOn ad to calling Patraeus a traitor, and O.B. (hey…isn’t that a brand of tampon?) has declined every time. Good luck.

]]> By: United States of Embarassment http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-5/#comment-4099918 United States of Embarassment Tue, 02 Oct 2007 00:45:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4099918 Bush will do it, its a done deal. They've already figured out that they will go down in flames, so why not leave the worst possible situation for whatever administration comes in and has to clean up their mess? It very well may be WWIII and, in a way, I hope so because it is the only way that the revolution that must take place in order for the USA to survive will ever take place. I left America 10 years ago because I could not bear the loss of freedom that had already taken place at that time. I'm sure that now it is 10x worse. Don't blame it on me, I saw it coming and I have NEVER voted for anybody that won. Hell, I'd vote for the Communists if that was the only remaining choice! See y'all after the war! Bush will do it, its a done deal. They’ve already figured out that they will go down in flames, so why not leave the worst possible situation for whatever administration comes in and has to clean up their mess?

It very well may be WWIII and, in a way, I hope so because it is the only way that the revolution that must take place in order for the USA to survive will ever take place.

I left America 10 years ago because I could not bear the loss of freedom that had already taken place at that time. I’m sure that now it is 10x worse.

Don’t blame it on me, I saw it coming and I have NEVER voted for anybody that won. Hell, I’d vote for the Communists if that was the only remaining choice!

See y’all after the war!

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-5/#comment-4099676 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:52:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4099676 OK, Bigfoot, all you are doing is providing links of varying degree of authenticity which make claims about Iran's military capability. From your Milnet link: ""Iran is now the only regional military power that poses a significant conventional military threat to Gulf stability." From your Abu Dubae link: "Iran has made big strides in building a military missile capability and is in the process of producing a long-range rocket that could fly as far as 5,000km." This in no way answers my basic question to you about your comparison of Iran to Nazi Germany. In addition, even if I were to accept the information in these links carte blanche, your basic premise is that because they have capability, we should attack them. His is an historically indefensible argument. We went for over 40 years with the Soviet Union having thousands of ICBM's pointed at our own cities. One of their premiers said "we will bury you." We didn't attack the Soviet Union. The cold war ended through economic pressure and diplomacy. OK, Bigfoot, all you are doing is providing links of varying degree of authenticity which make claims about Iran’s military capability.

From your Milnet link: “”Iran is now the only regional military power that poses a significant conventional military threat to Gulf stability.”

From your Abu Dubae link: “Iran has made big strides in building a military missile capability and is in the process of producing a long-range rocket that could fly as far as 5,000km.”

This in no way answers my basic question to you about your comparison of Iran to Nazi Germany. In addition, even if I were to accept the information in these links carte blanche, your basic premise is that because they have capability, we should attack them.

His is an historically indefensible argument. We went for over 40 years with the Soviet Union having thousands of ICBM’s pointed at our own cities. One of their premiers said “we will bury you.”

We didn’t attack the Soviet Union. The cold war ended through economic pressure and diplomacy.

]]> By: Winski http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-5/#comment-4099422 Winski Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:26:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4099422 Gimme some more of that Kool-Aide please!!! Yippee...I have an image of the farmhard - no ranch hand - no brush-clearing-IQ-less-than-a-handball cowpoke riding the A-bomb down as in Dr. No.... Here we go fellars......YeeHaa..... Gimme some more of that Kool-Aide please!!!

Yippee…I have an image of the farmhard – no ranch hand – no brush-clearing-IQ-less-than-a-handball cowpoke riding the A-bomb down as in Dr. No….

Here we go fellars……YeeHaa…..

]]> By: Sam Thornton http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-5/#comment-4099276 Sam Thornton Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:24:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4099276 <blockquote><em>195. Sorry, can’t play anymore right now. Gotta go to work… Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 1, 2007 @ 3:20 pm</em></blockquote> Aha! Swing shift at McDonald's starts at 4:00 p.m.

195. Sorry, can’t play anymore right now. Gotta go to work…

Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 1, 2007 @ 3:20 pm

Aha! Swing shift at McDonald’s starts at 4:00 p.m.

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-5/#comment-4099192 Buckie Boy Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:31:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4099192 Wow, Mr. Bigmouth, I thought neanderthals died out ages ago. You are proof that idiots still live amoung us, for you are the enemy, with your disimformation and propaganda. Sure glad you don't live next to me. You're insane. Buck Fush Wow, Mr. Bigmouth, I thought neanderthals died out ages ago. You are proof that idiots still live amoung us, for you are the enemy, with your disimformation and propaganda. Sure glad you don’t live next to me. You’re insane.

Buck Fush

]]> By: PaulD http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-5/#comment-4099175 PaulD Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:22:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4099175 Yep - the propaganda effort is in full swing. After I watched this special segment on FOX News over the weekend I pretty much knew that we will/are going to war with Iran. Pretty F*cking Frightening if you ask me... Preview – Iran: The Ticking Bomb http://beta.redlasso.com/Community/ClipPlayer.aspx?i=d339823c-4fb8-4dbb-bb0d-24377bbf2a61 Iran: The Ticking Bomb pt 1 http://beta.redlasso.com/Community/ClipPlayer.aspx?i=95a410d3-da38-4a84-9aeb-25cc9977d5ec Iran: The Ticking Bomb pt 2 http://beta.redlasso.com/Community/ClipPlayer.aspx?i=9b9a26b1-b316-4c1a-955c-48a1b3af47a9 Iran: The Ticking Bomb pt 3 http://beta.redlasso.com/Community/ClipPlayer.aspx?i=702cf5a5-9945-41b5-a6ca-89fb1a49a21a Iran: The Ticking Bomb pt 4 http://beta.redlasso.com/Community/ClipPlayer.aspx?i=292c6dbd-4e2c-4dfd-8a5d-fe80c19eb6fd Yep – the propaganda effort is in full swing. After I watched this special segment on FOX News over the weekend I pretty much knew that we will/are going to war with Iran. Pretty F*cking Frightening if you ask me…

Preview – Iran: The Ticking Bomb
http://beta.redlasso.com/Community/ClipPlayer.aspx?i=d339823c-4fb8-4dbb-bb0d-24377bbf2a61

Iran: The Ticking Bomb pt 1
http://beta.redlasso.com/Community/ClipPlayer.aspx?i=95a410d3-da38-4a84-9aeb-25cc9977d5ec

Iran: The Ticking Bomb pt 2
http://beta.redlasso.com/Community/ClipPlayer.aspx?i=9b9a26b1-b316-4c1a-955c-48a1b3af47a9

Iran: The Ticking Bomb pt 3
http://beta.redlasso.com/Community/ClipPlayer.aspx?i=702cf5a5-9945-41b5-a6ca-89fb1a49a21a

Iran: The Ticking Bomb pt 4
http://beta.redlasso.com/Community/ClipPlayer.aspx?i=292c6dbd-4e2c-4dfd-8a5d-fe80c19eb6fd

]]> By: hellinabucket http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-4/#comment-4099148 hellinabucket Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:10:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4099148 I'm all for the Col.'s debate with the largehoof. I don't have the knowledge base that Col. Jack Ripper has. I learn so much more when there are posters like him. I'm sure I'll address bigfoot again. Another thread, another day. He brings nothing to this one. I’m all for the Col.’s debate with the largehoof. I don’t have the knowledge base that Col. Jack Ripper has. I learn so much more when there are posters like him.

I’m sure I’ll address bigfoot again. Another thread, another day. He brings nothing to this one.

]]> By: Juan C. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-4/#comment-4099147 Juan C. Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:10:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4099147 <em>We’re not talking about 1930. By the mid-30’s, they had a world-class manufacturing industry.</em> Ret. Col: Maybe Bigfoot is right. Stukas and MGs were given by aliens to those 10th century sword-waving peasants and Germanic tribes. We’re not talking about 1930. By the mid-30’s, they had a world-class manufacturing industry.

Ret. Col: Maybe Bigfoot is right. Stukas and MGs were given by aliens to those 10th century sword-waving peasants and Germanic tribes.

]]> By: Severus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-4/#comment-4099138 Severus Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:06:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4099138 Bigfoot is typical of the right wingers endlessly flinging their talking points as if they had some basis in reality with out the proof necessary to back them up. Sadly he and his cohorts are ramping up their justification for bombing yet another country posing no threat to the US. They ramp it up with no acknowledgement of the true nature of the powers that the president of Iran truly has. Pretty much his rhetoric is all he has, that and the support of the people. Outside of that the power in Iran lays with the Clerics, they and they alone have the power in the country. Of course one would not expect the 29% die hard club to understand this, as 7 years ago they marketed a man with zero real governing experience to be president. I say zero real governing experience because most people don't know that the governor of Texas has about as much real power as the head of the DMV does. He has no power to appoint people to positions, no power to introduce legislation etc... yet they touted him as a big-state governor, when Texas is probably the only state he could have governed. Now we have them using this lack of knowledge of the powers of the president of Iran in a similar manner...i.e. they promote his powers far beyond what they really are and in this case they sell him as a danger to us all. Bog foot also forgot some of the new freedoms introduced...the freedom to invade any country we please under the guise of 911. The freedom to ignore treaties and long standing legal traditions (Scalito has actually said that he did not believe in following prior precedent). The freedom to torture. The freedom to rob others of their rights while shamelessly claiming that no rights were removed. If the Neocons are eventually called on the carpet and made to pay for their crimes, where will they flee to? The Germans fled to Brazil and Argentina, one would assume that the neo's would go to Israel, but that is a little too close to real death and danger. My guess would be hidden on the ranch, after all who doesn't like an invite to the ranch? Bigfoot is typical of the right wingers endlessly flinging their talking points as if they had some basis in reality with out the proof necessary to back them up. Sadly he and his cohorts are ramping up their justification for bombing yet another country posing no threat to the US. They ramp it up with no acknowledgement of the true nature of the powers that the president of Iran truly has. Pretty much his rhetoric is all he has, that and the support of the people. Outside of that the power in Iran lays with the Clerics, they and they alone have the power in the country. Of course one would not expect the 29% die hard club to understand this, as 7 years ago they marketed a man with zero real governing experience to be president. I say zero real governing experience because most people don’t know that the governor of Texas has about as much real power as the head of the DMV does. He has no power to appoint people to positions, no power to introduce legislation etc… yet they touted him as a big-state governor, when Texas is probably the only state he could have governed. Now we have them using this lack of knowledge of the powers of the president of Iran in a similar manner…i.e. they promote his powers far beyond what they really are and in this case they sell him as a danger to us all.

Bog foot also forgot some of the new freedoms introduced…the freedom to invade any country we please under the guise of 911. The freedom to ignore treaties and long standing legal traditions (Scalito has actually said that he did not believe in following prior precedent). The freedom to torture. The freedom to rob others of their rights while shamelessly claiming that no rights were removed.

If the Neocons are eventually called on the carpet and made to pay for their crimes, where will they flee to? The Germans fled to Brazil and Argentina, one would assume that the neo’s would go to Israel, but that is a little too close to real death and danger. My guess would be hidden on the ranch, after all who doesn’t like an invite to the ranch?

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-4/#comment-4099121 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:00:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4099121 Bigfoot: "Easy. Both Germany and Japan were not considered world powers in 1930." God, that is so weasily. We're not talking about 1930. By the mid-30's, they had a world-class manufacturing industry. By '38, when conservatives were still arguing AGAINST doing anything, they had annexed a number of European countries. And they made no secret about preparing for war as you claim. Their invasion of Poland was in all the papers. Everyone knew what they were doing in Europe. His book was widely published. And, you're completely wrong about Japan. They had the most formidable Navy in the world. They had already taken over most of Asia by force years before they attacked us. I don't know what history books you've been reading. My suggestion is simply to watch Ken Burns' "The War." Bigfoot: “Easy. Both Germany and Japan were not considered world powers in 1930.”

God, that is so weasily. We’re not talking about 1930. By the mid-30’s, they had a world-class manufacturing industry. By ‘38, when conservatives were still arguing AGAINST doing anything, they had annexed a number of European countries. And they made no secret about preparing for war as you claim. Their invasion of Poland was in all the papers. Everyone knew what they were doing in Europe. His book was widely published. And, you’re completely wrong about Japan. They had the most formidable Navy in the world. They had already taken over most of Asia by force years before they attacked us. I don’t know what history books you’ve been reading. My suggestion is simply to watch Ken Burns’ “The War.”

]]> By: Juan C. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-4/#comment-4099110 Juan C. Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:56:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4099110 You were right, hellinabucket...it is not worth it. You were right, hellinabucket…it is not worth it.

]]> By: conscriptor http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-4/#comment-4099089 conscriptor Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:49:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4099089 bigfoot? bigfoot from B4B? what are you doing over here playing with rational adults? bigfoot? bigfoot from B4B? what are you doing over here playing with rational adults?

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-4/#comment-4099087 Bad Eye Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:48:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4099087 Oh, and your two big freedoms are a joke. The first one affects an extremely small percentage of Americans. Besides, how does it improve their lives on a daily basis? Or do you deem this question "not important" and thus refuse to answer it? Oh, and your two big freedoms are a joke. The first one affects an extremely small percentage of Americans. Besides, how does it improve their lives on a daily basis? Or do you deem this question “not important” and thus refuse to answer it?

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-4/#comment-4099072 Bad Eye Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:44:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4099072 <em>For the life of me I can’t figure out what Bush hopes to gain by bombing Iran. Comment by bilbobaggins — October 1, 2007 @ 2:04 pm</em> Why, he wants to submit thousands of Iraqis and Americans to their deaths now, so that we don't have to go through it in the future. For the life of me I can’t figure out what Bush hopes to gain by bombing Iran.

Comment by bilbobaggins — October 1, 2007 @ 2:04 pm

Why, he wants to submit thousands of Iraqis and Americans to their deaths now, so that we don’t have to go through it in the future.

]]> By: Keltoi http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/comment-page-4/#comment-4099071 Keltoi Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:44:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/podhoretz-bush-iran-attack/#comment-4099071 It worked for them in the 2002 and 04 elections and they think maybe they can throw a “hail Mary” with an attack on Iran for the 08 election. Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — October 1, 2007 @ 2:36 pm I kinda figured that was your drift. Who knows, you could be right. I guess it all depends on what you think really goes on in Bush's head. Everyone wants to paint him as a total idiot, and I think that is not accurate. They also want to paint him as Steaming Evil, which I also think is a mischaracterization. But more to my point, since 25+ Democrats and Hillary voted for Kyl-Lieberman, how does bombing Iran solely benefit the Repubs? At least half your Senatorial delegation is on board, apparently. Are they just cynically going along to reap the benefits of a fear stricken populace - as you say Bush is - or are they true believers? It worked for them in the 2002 and 04 elections and they think maybe they can throw a “hail Mary” with an attack on Iran for the 08 election.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — October 1, 2007 @ 2:36 pm

I kinda figured that was your drift. Who knows, you could be right. I guess it all depends on what you think really goes on in Bush’s head. Everyone wants to paint him as a total idiot, and I think that is not accurate. They also want to paint him as Steaming Evil, which I also think is a mischaracterization.

But more to my point, since 25+ Democrats and Hillary voted for Kyl-Lieberman, how does bombing Iran solely benefit the Repubs? At least half your Senatorial delegation is on board, apparently. Are they just cynically going along to reap the benefits of a fear stricken populace – as you say Bush is – or are they true believers?

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