http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

Current Debt – 8,972,984,124,356.93
Debt Jan 20, 2007 – 8,675,085,083,537.48
Debt Jan 20, 2001 – 5,727,776,738,304.64
Debt Jan 11, 1993 – 4,188,092,107,183.60

In short, debt under Clinton and a democratic congress for 8 years rose at about 4 percent per year or averaged 0.19 trillion per year.

Debt under Bush and republican congress for 6 years looks to rise over 8 per cent per year (about double the Clinton years) or about 0.49 trillion per year (over double that of Clinton).

So far this year, a slimly demo Congress has slowed this to 0.3 trillion per year.

That may be true, but they still pay Social Security and Medicare taxes, again, money they will never recover.

Does anyone here still believe the Democrats represent us on the left?

We basicly have a two party system the represents two positions on the political spectrum: center-right, and far-right

Our democracy in this country is FUBAR

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Oh, this would just solve everything. Eliminate conflict by breaking up the country and put every group into their own little bean patch.
sarc/off

Poll after poll indicates Iraqis want a united Iraq by a large majority. I can understand this. After all, I prefer a united United States, and I would resent it if somebody else came in and divided our country into independent republics of “Left Coast”, “Jesusland”, etc.

Read more like this and discuss it at http://www.thecoin.org

Thats Funny…

Last time he kept running away after I exposed him as a liar.

Guess he decided he likes toe taps ( to his teeth )
Strange guy…….

Comment by Veritas — October 1, 2007 @ 9:50 am

Psst. Go back and re-read. It wasn’t Jason who noted his irony.

Yikes.

Good morning, Wayne. the Michael troll was looking for you the other day. I told him I’d make sure you knew that. ;)

Many of these undocumented workers using stolen social security number claim the maimum number of dependents, used to be 12, so they pay no withholding taxes.

“extraordinary suffering and bloodshed” brought to you by the Bush Administration.

Now with more suffering!!

After moving to the right on such issues as school integration, abortion and campaign finance regulation in its last term, the U.S. Supreme Court may be about to veer leftward as it begins a term highlighted by a clash over the rights of captives at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
The names are unchanged on a court widely viewed as the most conservative since the 1930s. But legal commentators say several major cases on the docket for the term that starts today, and others likely to be added, raise issues in which the liberal justices in the court’s minority bloc have a good chance of picking up a crucial vote from Justice Anthony Kennedy, who rarely sided with them last term.
Those cases include a test of judges’ authority to reduce the disparities in sentencing between crack and powder cocaine, a dispute over the evidence allowed in job discrimination suits, and the battle over the scope of capital punishment. The court will review a challenge to states’ rules for lethal injections and may revisit the question of death sentences for crimes other than murder.
“Last term, we had a whole series of cases that struck Justice Kennedy’s conservative chords,” said Thomas Goldstein, a Washington, D.C., attorney and veteran Supreme Court litigator. “Here we have some cases which might strike his individualistic, even slightly liberal chords.”
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/10/01/MNRTSFG6H.DTL

i fear that bob may have just put a hex on things…
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Comment by Veritas — October 1, 2007 @ 9:48 am

Duh! Bush will give us more tax cuts, which will increase revenues. Haven’t been paying attention, have ya?

(snark)

I thought the Dems won both houses last Nov?
Looks like only Bush lapdogs, who roll over on command, won last Nov, in reality.

sit, rovers, sit
speak, rovers, speak
roll over, rovers, roll over
Good dogs.
=|

You obviously don’t live in an area that has undocumented workers in the workforce. I do and I used to work for an employer who employed them. She did what most employers do, she accepted a stolen social security number from them. They are social security numbers of dead people. So, they do pay taxes, but they can’t file tax returns because if they did, they would be discovered. And, our government knows this is going on. Millions of dollars goes into the coffers of our government every year in the form of income taxes, Medicare taxes and social security taxes that will never be reclaimed.

I love how people think that the undocumented workers are a drain on our society. For the most part, they are an asset. You would be paying much higher prices for many commodities if our corporations were not allowed to hire undocumented workers. If every undocumented worker walked off their jobs tomorrow, most restaurants in major metropolitan areas would have to close their doors, our fresh fruits and vegetables would die on the vine, wine would become unavailable and many other businesses would go belly up. They are already here doing jobs that most people in this country would not do for the wages offered. So why not give them a way of being here legally to do the work they do?

Because US govt makes the rules.