Comments on: 0: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:23:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Alejandro http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-2/#comment-4105016 Alejandro Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:00:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4105016 I guess this shows just how worthless the Democrats really are. Or at least who's side they're on. I guess this shows just how worthless the Democrats really are.

Or at least who’s side they’re on.

]]> By: Will http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-2/#comment-4103699 Will Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:03:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4103699 I'll say this for the republicans... they know how to present a united front. Too bad the democrats can't seem to do anything but back down. I’ll say this for the republicans… they know how to present a united front. Too bad the democrats can’t seem to do anything but back down.

]]> By: ANeccessaryEvil http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-2/#comment-4103077 ANeccessaryEvil Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:53:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4103077 Nevermind the Rush little fish story has grown into a huge fable but of all people to mention support and patriotism, Harry Reid. The same one to say to the troops and the enemy... "I believe ... that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week." Yet when General Petraeus speaks...another reknowned Dem. says "the willing suspension of disbelief" It is like Kennedy giving driving lessons. He will get you half way there but then leave you to save his own rear. Nevermind the Rush little fish story has grown into a huge fable but of all people to mention support and patriotism, Harry Reid.

The same one to say to the troops and the enemy… “I believe … that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week.”

Yet when General Petraeus speaks…another reknowned Dem. says “the willing suspension of disbelief”

It is like Kennedy giving driving lessons. He will get you half way there but then leave you to save his own rear.

]]> By: Pete Bogs http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-2/#comment-4103017 Pete Bogs Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:31:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4103017 you Republicants got some splainin' to do! you Republicants got some splainin’ to do!

]]> By: Menehune http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-2/#comment-4102959 Menehune Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:51:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102959 Harry Reid, pwned again! Will you just stop allowing yourself to be out maneuvered every time? Guess why that keeps happening, Harry? It's because you're playing prevent defense (and poorly!), not going on offense. You allowed a quick touchdown and fumbled the ensuing kickoff. Now, after an incompletion and two sacks, you're backed up on your goal and it's fourth down again. Where are those supoenas? Where are the contempt of congress charges? Where is the power of the purse? Where are all the investigations? You know--your "A-Game". Oh I see--you're keeping those in reserve for next season. Harry Reid, pwned again! Will you just stop allowing yourself to be out maneuvered every time? Guess why that keeps happening, Harry? It’s because you’re playing prevent defense (and poorly!), not going on offense. You allowed a quick touchdown and fumbled the ensuing kickoff. Now, after an incompletion and two sacks, you’re backed up on your goal and it’s fourth down again. Where are those supoenas? Where are the contempt of congress charges? Where is the power of the purse? Where are all the investigations? You know–your “A-Game”. Oh I see–you’re keeping those in reserve for next season.

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-2/#comment-4102947 Jay Randal Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:08:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102947 Democrats in Congress fell for the cheese to condemn MoveOn.org and now see they got used by the GOPers who are disgusting hypocrites. Democrats in Congress fell for the cheese to condemn MoveOn.org and now see they got used by the GOPers who are disgusting hypocrites.

]]> By: old_hack http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-2/#comment-4102939 old_hack Wed, 03 Oct 2007 06:45:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102939 spread the word. 60,000,000 votes is whats needed for us to over ride congress' subversion of our American right to make our own Laws! screw the rich! spread the word. 60,000,000 votes is whats needed for us to over ride congress’ subversion of our American right to make our own Laws! screw the rich!

]]> By: old_hack http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-2/#comment-4102938 old_hack Wed, 03 Oct 2007 06:44:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102938 while you complain about whos signing what in the congress how about you take a moment of your own time and enact the national initiative and free yourselves from the dictatorship we're all living under www.ni4d.us sign up. Vote. do something besides sit around and complain that congress is not doing the job that you should be doing yourself! while you complain about whos signing what in the congress how about you take a moment of your own time and enact the national initiative and free yourselves from the dictatorship we’re all living under

http://www.ni4d.us

sign up. Vote. do something besides sit around and complain that congress is not doing the job that you should be doing yourself!

]]> By: Max-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-2/#comment-4102918 Max-1 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 05:42:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102918 . It's not bashing the troops when Republicans do it. . .

It’s not bashing the troops when Republicans do it.

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]]> By: Xisithrus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-2/#comment-4102738 Xisithrus Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:15:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102738 Tjhe elected Conservatives should be redefined, in Websters, as organized hypocrisy, because here we have proof that it is.. They are not fiscally conservative or morally conservative. And if they are those two then they cannot be religiously conservative. The cloak themselves in religion but care not for it. Tjhe elected Conservatives should be redefined, in Websters, as organized hypocrisy, because here we have proof that it is..

They are not fiscally conservative or morally conservative. And if they are those two then they cannot be religiously conservative.

The cloak themselves in religion but care not for it.

]]> By: Keltoi at Night http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-2/#comment-4102719 Keltoi at Night Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:04:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102719 kennedy would be a true thorn in the repugs sides… Comment by katy — October 2, 2007 @ 11:00 pm Ted is too old and too easy to counter-attack. Webb has all the cred, but the truth is he is too much of a centrist. He despises Bush, but I think his former life as a Republican keeps him from being a good attack dog. If Obama fails in his Presidential bid, which looks likely, he could set himself up as a real thorn, especially if Hillary loses in 08. He could rattle and rattle and get all lined up for 12. Otherwise....there do not seem to be many Lions in the Senate. Politics aside - Harry Reid? C'mon, he is the only guy I can think of that makes Cheney look vivacious. How either of them ever won an election is beyond me. Is Rahm Emanuel a Rep? He seems like a pretty good in fighter and a true believer. kennedy would be a true thorn in the repugs sides…
Comment by katy — October 2, 2007 @ 11:00 pm

Ted is too old and too easy to counter-attack.

Webb has all the cred, but the truth is he is too much of a centrist. He despises Bush, but I think his former life as a Republican keeps him from being a good attack dog.

If Obama fails in his Presidential bid, which looks likely, he could set himself up as a real thorn, especially if Hillary loses in 08. He could rattle and rattle and get all lined up for 12.

Otherwise….there do not seem to be many Lions in the Senate. Politics aside – Harry Reid? C’mon, he is the only guy I can think of that makes Cheney look vivacious. How either of them ever won an election is beyond me.

Is Rahm Emanuel a Rep? He seems like a pretty good in fighter and a true believer.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-2/#comment-4102598 katy Wed, 03 Oct 2007 03:00:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102598 <em>I want someone who is going to engage the Repubs at their own level, by their own rules, who will start throwing and landing some haymakers. Reid doesn’t even talk a good game, and his act is even weaker. Comment by OxyCon — October 2, 2007 @ 10:54 pm</em> i agree... but who? kennedy would be a true thorn in the repugs sides... daily show on... see yas... . I want someone who is going to engage the Repubs at their own level, by their own rules, who will start throwing and landing some haymakers.
Reid doesn’t even talk a good game, and his act is even weaker.

Comment by OxyCon — October 2, 2007 @ 10:54 pm

i agree… but who?

kennedy would be a true thorn in the repugs sides…

daily show on… see yas…
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]]> By: mcollins6 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-2/#comment-4102592 mcollins6 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:57:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102592 Limbaugh is shooting at the messenger. Inspite of his attempts to change the topic, the message is clear- Bush's illegal war is wrong. Limbaugh is shooting at the messenger. Inspite of his attempts to change the topic, the message is clear- Bush’s illegal war is wrong.

]]> By: OxyCon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-2/#comment-4102584 OxyCon Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:54:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102584 Reid is a weak and ineffectual Senate Majority leader. We need to get a new leader. One who is a fighter. One who knows how to bloody the Repub's nose. America overwhelmingly rejects the Repub party by a huge majority, yet Reid is behaving like a timid scaredy cat and the Repubs are trampling him and the Democrats. I want someone who is going to engage the Repubs at their own level, by their own rules, who will start throwing and landing some haymakers. Reid doesn't even talk a good game, and his act is even weaker. Reid is a weak and ineffectual Senate Majority leader.
We need to get a new leader. One who is a fighter. One who knows how to bloody the Repub’s nose.
America overwhelmingly rejects the Repub party by a huge majority, yet Reid is behaving like a timid scaredy cat and the Repubs are trampling him and the Democrats.
I want someone who is going to engage the Repubs at their own level, by their own rules, who will start throwing and landing some haymakers.
Reid doesn’t even talk a good game, and his act is even weaker.

]]> By: foreyes http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-1/#comment-4102554 foreyes Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:40:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102554 Now if I can just figure out how to give up my values of respect for law, civil rights, respect for privacy, fairness, freedom, etc, etc Comment by Chuck U. Farley — October 2, 2007 @ 10:09 pm You're giving up too soon Chuck. Hang on, we're not finished yet! Now if I can just figure out how to give up my values of respect for law, civil rights, respect for privacy, fairness, freedom, etc, etc

Comment by Chuck U. Farley — October 2, 2007 @ 10:09 pm

You’re giving up too soon Chuck. Hang on, we’re not finished yet!

]]> By: Serenity Now http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-1/#comment-4102552 Serenity Now Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:40:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102552 Both the Move On and Rush nonsense is a waste of time! Move On and Rush don't care what the other side thinks and that is fine. Each organization (I include Rush as a organization simply because of his large ass) has their base and no one from the other side is going to change anyone's mind. Both cases have been blown out of proportion as usual. The Fact that Republicans have been demeaning troops is nothing new. That fact that a left wing organization questioned a General in a time of war is not news either. When else are you supposed to question a General except in a time of war. Both sides have gone out of their way to use troops for political gain. Sometimes it has been in honorable terms and others it has been pretty low. The fact that no Republican signed on to the bill shouldn't be surprising. The fact that the Democrats let the Move On letter even come up for a vote let alone some of them voting for it is more disturbing than the Rush Limbaugh letter. The people in this country should be very worried that the Democratic Party has no leadership. That they are easily goaded into stupid and childish arguments that they usually come out of looking even worse than before. Those of us with any common sense know full well what the Move On add was trying to say and we also know full well what Rush Limbaugh said. We don't need the idiots in the media trying to stir things up, nor the fake outrage from stupid politicians wasting our time and taxes. We can make or conclusions. Both the Move On and Rush nonsense is a waste of time! Move On and Rush don’t care what the other side thinks and that is fine. Each organization (I include Rush as a organization simply because of his large ass) has their base and no one from the other side is going to change anyone’s mind. Both cases have been blown out of proportion as usual.

The Fact that Republicans have been demeaning troops is nothing new. That fact that a left wing organization questioned a General in a time of war is not news either. When else are you supposed to question a General except in a time of war. Both sides have gone out of their way to use troops for political gain. Sometimes it has been in honorable terms and others it has been pretty low.

The fact that no Republican signed on to the bill shouldn’t be surprising. The fact that the Democrats let the Move On letter even come up for a vote let alone some of them voting for it is more disturbing than the Rush Limbaugh letter.

The people in this country should be very worried that the Democratic Party has no leadership. That they are easily goaded into stupid and childish arguments that they usually come out of looking even worse than before.

Those of us with any common sense know full well what the Move On add was trying to say and we also know full well what Rush Limbaugh said. We don’t need the idiots in the media trying to stir things up, nor the fake outrage from stupid politicians wasting our time and taxes. We can make or conclusions.

]]> By: Chuck U. Farley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-1/#comment-4102491 Chuck U. Farley Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:09:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102491 Senate Democrats should just go home and let Republicans run the upper chamber unimpeded. At least that would make it crystal clear who gets credit for what is done. Better that than having Republican wishes fulfilled by a "Democratic-controlled Senate" with Democrats voting for the Republican agenda. I've had a bellyful of excuses for weakness, and the 110th Congress is making the Republican dictum of "better to be strong and wrong than weak and right" is sounding better all the time. Now if I can just figure out how to give up my values of respect for law, civil rights, respect for privacy, fairness, freedom, etc, etc Senate Democrats should just go home and let Republicans run the upper chamber unimpeded. At least that would make it crystal clear who gets credit for what is done. Better that than having Republican wishes fulfilled by a “Democratic-controlled Senate” with Democrats voting for the Republican agenda.

I’ve had a bellyful of excuses for weakness, and the 110th Congress is making the Republican dictum of “better to be strong and wrong than weak and right” is sounding better all the time.

Now if I can just figure out how to give up my values of respect for law, civil rights, respect for privacy, fairness, freedom, etc, etc

]]> By: Moderation http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-1/#comment-4102449 Moderation Wed, 03 Oct 2007 01:56:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102449 <em>I can now leave this Earth, knowing Reps are ready and able to stand by their men, good/bad, right/wrong. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 8:47 pm</em> Blinded by loyalty, much? Sheesh. To stand behind "your side" even if they are bad, even if they are wrong, is not a sign of strength. It is a sign of weakness. Blind solidarity is horrific in its implications. Because it is blind. You can leave this Earth HAPPY to know that your side will stand with solidarity, protecting the good elements, the right elements, the BAD elements and the WRONG elements? That pretty much sums up the shallowness, thoughtlessness and narrow-mindedness of the authoritarian mindset. Nothing else matters beyond your team winning? Even if evil, wrong, bad, people did evil, wrong, bad things to win? Even if millions are crushed beneath the heel of oppression? Even if millions are treated like chattel? Even if millions are KILLED? Nice sociopathy, buddy. I can now leave this Earth, knowing Reps are ready and able to stand by their men, good/bad, right/wrong.

Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 8:47 pm

Blinded by loyalty, much? Sheesh. To stand behind “your side” even if they are bad, even if they are wrong, is not a sign of strength. It is a sign of weakness. Blind solidarity is horrific in its implications. Because it is blind.

You can leave this Earth HAPPY to know that your side will stand with solidarity, protecting the good elements, the right elements, the BAD elements and the WRONG elements? That pretty much sums up the shallowness, thoughtlessness and narrow-mindedness of the authoritarian mindset.

Nothing else matters beyond your team winning? Even if evil, wrong, bad, people did evil, wrong, bad things to win? Even if millions are crushed beneath the heel of oppression? Even if millions are treated like chattel? Even if millions are KILLED?

Nice sociopathy, buddy.

]]> By: Guido OBGYN Lover http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-1/#comment-4102364 Guido OBGYN Lover Wed, 03 Oct 2007 01:17:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102364 Where you been Ryan Neat? Where you been Ryan Neat?

]]> By: Guido OBGYN Lover http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/comment-page-1/#comment-4102350 Guido OBGYN Lover Wed, 03 Oct 2007 01:14:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/16699/#comment-4102350 Democrats are so stupid. I'm voting for Howard Dean. I'll take a picture to prove it. Democrats are so stupid. I’m voting for Howard Dean. I’ll take a picture to prove it.

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