Limbaugh Compares Purple Heart Recipient In Vote Vets Ad To A Suicide Bomber
Limbaugh Compares Purple Heart Recipient In Vote Vets Ad To A Suicide Bomber
In a new Vote Vets ad released today, Brian McGough, an Iraq war veteran who received the Purple Heart, challenges Rush Limbaugh: “Until you have the guts to call me a ‘phony soldier‘ to my face, stop telling lies about my service.” Watch it:
In response, Limbaugh today attacked McGough, comparing him to a suicide bomber and suggesting that someone “pumped him full of these lies about what I said“:
This is such a blatant use of a valiant combat veteran, lying to him about what I said and then strapping those lies to his belt, sending him out via the media and a TV ad to walk into as many people as he can walk into.
This man will always be a hero to this country with everyone. Whoever pumped him full of these lies about what I said and embarrassed him with this ad has betrayed him, they aren’t hurting me. They are betraying this soldier.
In McGough’s case, Rush’s comments are especially tactless. McGough’s injury in Iraq “resulted from a real-life suicide bomber.” On DailyKos, McGough responds to Limbaugh:
I can assure you that I am no suicide bomber and that I can think for myself. [...]
Rush, your phony soldier comments pissed me off. The audacity of someone like you who never had the courage to stand and fight for what you believe in makes my head spin. That is what made me stand up and state my convictions in front of a camera. I wanted to point out that you are wrong. I am not a phony soldier. [...]
In the commercial I just taped, I told you unless you had the guts to say something to my face, stop telling lies about my service. Well you haven’t had the guts to say it to my face, but I am waiting and the offer is still on the table.
Evidently, according to Limbaugh, pretty much everyone lies and has ulterior motives…unless they agree with him.
UPDATE: Media Matters and Digby have more.
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Rush, when you’re in a deep hole, stop digging.
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:49 pmOnce again, libs had to find a veteran with brain damage (read liberal victim) to carry their fight to Limbaugh.
Where is Harken, etc., to fight Limbaugh?
… so are you going to roll out your grandmothers, children or multiple amputies to hide behind next?
Rush is right – you lied to this guy, got him riled up and wheeled him into the media spotlight – you have no shame.
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:51 pmJohn Soltz has already called out that pu$$y Lush. Lush is a pu$$y just like you Hendler. Join up pu$$y.
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:56 pmJesus H Christ would someone please take a baseball bat to the fat f@ck!
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:57 pmBecause this soldier has an opinion different than the “base” someone has “pumped him full of lies”. And that’s not insulting?
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:59 pmPlease spare me the spin, Rush is a piece of sh!t.
“Rory” sez:
You mean the “phony soldiers” that took real soldiers’ bios off the Internet and misrepresented them as their own, Jake?
Oh, and while you’re here:
You maintained in another thread that the MoveOn ad was was “false”. Demonstrate how the MoveOn ad is false. (and the fact that a majority of Dems voted to condemn the ad does not constitute proof of falseness), or admit your lie.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:00 pmCan we please just drop this?! As if this country doesn’t look stupid enough around the world? Now the world gets to watch us bicker about newspaper ads and talk radio hosts while we are engaged in wars in 2 countries?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:01 pmRush is right – you lied to this guy, got him riled up and wheeled him into the media spotlight – you have no shame.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
Jesus H Christ, you’re an obnoxious fool.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:01 pmSpoodge Boy,
NO ONE is going to fight / debate a war veteran with brain injuries, which is EXACTLY why the libs chose this guy. Libs always have to hide behind victims to fight their battles – just once, foist someone on us who we wouldn’t hesitate to hit.
Harken, etc. are happy for this distraction, realizing that they stepped in it, and can’t back up their bullshit. Well, now you got both Rush and Fox News staring you down – whatcha boys gonna do now, march some girls scouts forward to fight for you?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 pmChubby needs his cystic ass beat
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 pmThe phony soldier is the one who dressed up in a flight suit and declared the mission accomplished over four years ago. The architechs of this phony war and their water-carriers are the phonies. Rush is no more than a drug addicted bigot with a microphone.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 pmLet him dig. This thing has obviously turned around and bit him on the ass, and I think he’s worried about where it’s heading.
It’s one thing to wish out loud that there weren’t so many troops in Iraq that are against Bush and that think he’s screwed them over royally. But, when you start calling those troops names, knowing in your heart of hearts that they represent a large and growing number of the military serving in Iraq, you deserve all the backlash that’s coming your way.
Keep flapping your gums, Rush. We’re just getting warmed up.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 pmRush needs to be given another drug test.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:03 pmOnly a Crackhead would say the things he is saying.
Why is our Military forcing our soldiers to listen to a hyperpartisan Crackhead who is deliberately trying to divide our soldiers into “phony” soldiers and “real” soldiers?
A divided Army is a failed Army.
Congress should step in and stop Rush Limpbaugh from harming our Military by dividing it.
Jason Misogynist Hendler sez:
I don’t know…looks like you’re having no trouble hitting the “cripple”, as you so delicately put it.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:04 pmBob,
Well said Sir!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:04 pmI sincerely feel sorry for anyone that believes anything that comes out of Rush’s mouth.
You people are sick ideologues and you need to wake up.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:05 pmOh, ok, so now soldiers who question the policy in Iraq are too stupid to think for themselves, in addition to being phony. Just gets better and better.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:06 pm#17, criticalthinker,
Can’t say for sure, other than he probably tried to paraphrase, so that the context was more obvious.
As Rush stated on his show, he has made repeated statements over weeks and months, regarding several people who have defrauded both the government and the media, making false claims of their service in Iraq. The only way to explain this is to snip together these disparate statements made over a long period of time.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:09 pmJust for “Rory”:
Your ilk lost all credibility when those pathetic old men Cheney and Rumsfeld said before a missle was launched that the war would last a matter of weeks or months but certainly not years, so crawl back under that rock you deluded punks inhabit.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:09 pmAny comment from Jason, Caring Liberal or “Rory” about Rush comparing McGough to a suicide bomber, considering he was horribly wounded by a suicide bomber? Or, how about his inference that McGough is too stupid to think for himself?
Is it ok with you three that Rush mocks a soldier who was injured while carrying out his duties?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:12 pmAs Rush stated on his show, he has made repeated statements over weeks and months, regarding several people who have defrauded both the government and the media, making false claims of their service in Iraq. The only way to explain this is to snip together these disparate statements made over a long period of time.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
Which is why I repeat myself, from the tail end of another thread:
One way or the other, Limbaugh has brought this all on himself. Among the wingnuts and dittoheads, “phony soldiers†may well refer to people like McBeth, but it’s only because Limbaugh and his ilk have been working like mad to plant that seed in their tiny brains: that all the anti-war soldiers are phonies like McBeth. The dittoheads are incapable of distinguishing Rushspeak from reality, and to them it’s all one word: antiwarsoldiersphonysoldiersmcbeth. Rush and the Right have always operated with code words, and like the Big Lie, they repeat them over and over and over, in as simple terms as possible, while assuring their audience that “you are really smart, smarter than libs, because you listen to me!â€
Once they’ve established this groundwork, they can dismiss all anti-war comments from military personnel, or retired military, with the same quick code words. In this case, “phony soldiers.†And the wingnuts nod their dittoheads in agreement: “antiwarsoldiersphonysoldiersmcbeth†.
That’s why Rush’s minions are always saying the same thing: “You need to listen to Rush all the time, then you’d understand what he meant.†And they’re correct; if you listened to Rush all the time you’d have learned all the codewords and could easily interpret what he “really meantâ€. In this case, he “really meant†that anyone in the armed forces, or who has retired from the armed forces who doesn’t utterly and completely support all military adventures carried out by the “conservatives†is a antiwarsoldiersphonysoldiersmcbeth.
Comment by gummitch — October 2, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:13 pmTranscript?! I don’t need no stinkin’ transcript, criticalthinker. I listened to the entire exchange LIVE on the 26th.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
So we should rely on your memory of what was at the time an uncritical listening process, rather than on actual transcripts? You’re delusional.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:14 pmComment by “Rory” — October 2, 2007 @ 9:05 pm
What a load of sh!t, Jake. All those words, and you have yet to point out one falsehood in the MoveOn.org ad.
The question stands.
(BTW, Jake, you don’t need to put my name in quotes…I’m not the one running away from my past. ^_^)
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:14 pm#27 Jason M. Hendler
As Rush stated on his show…
You mean where he edited out the incriminating parts and cut out the whole first hour of the show when it was broadcast on Armed Forces Radio? I wonder why he would have done that.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:14 pmTrip,
“I don’t know…looks like you’re having no trouble hitting the “crippleâ€, as you so delicately put it.”
Goddamn right! I don’t hold anything back from the obvious pawns of cowardly liberals – I’ve had to face down countless individuals who hold “victim status” with the liberals, thinking they hold moral authority over me. Bah! There is only one way to dispatch them – quickly and decisively – allowing them to scream victim as their only resort. After awhile, their tactic loses affect, so that they can’t use it anymore, which is why/how libs have lost power in this country.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:15 pmThis just gets better and better.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:15 pmI’m awake, Neeko. You will, at least, admit that the REAL soldiers are fighting a war in Iraq, right?
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
And some of those “REAL” soldiers have spoken out against the occupation of Iraq, not only after they return but while they’re still in combat. Some of those “REAL” soldiers have now left the military and are speaking out against the occupation in Iraq. You and Rush and the rest of the dittoheads are the ones constantly coming up with excuses about why it’s OK to dismiss them as “phony soldiers”.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:15 pmWhat part of “This man will always be a hero to this country with everyone†(see excert above) are you having trouble understanding?
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
Yes, after he mocks his injuries by using the suicide bomber metaphor, and calling him too stupid to think for himself. Praise as an afterthought doesn’t count.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:16 pmthis is beautiful, rush is in panic mode. the pimple on his cowardly fat ass must be killing him.
eh?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:17 pmGoddamn right! I don’t hold anything back from the obvious pawns of cowardly liberals – I’ve had to face down countless individuals who hold “victim status†with the liberals, thinking they hold moral authority over me. Bah! There is only one way to dispatch them – quickly and decisively – allowing them to scream victim as their only resort. After awhile, their tactic loses affect, so that they can’t use it anymore, which is why/how libs have lost power in this country.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
Read his comments about Rush in the links above, not just in the ad. He obviously came to his anger all on his own, and he’s no one’s pawn. He’s saying things you don’t want to hear, so like Rush, you dismiss him and diminish him rather than listen.
The “victims” these days are the “conservatives” and dittoheads whining about how they’re being misunderstood.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:17 pmRegardless of whether he’s been duped into being a figurative suicide bomber.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
Read my previous comment. And shame on you for calling McGough too stupid to think for himself, too.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:17 pmJason M. Hendler,
Why do you hate our soldiers?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:18 pmfat-ass, you’re a no- good junkie P.O.S.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:18 pmI’ll be happy if half your retarded lissners would wise up
I’d be happy to win the lottery, too, and about as much chance of THAT happening as well.
take 2- oxycontins and roll in your cash
Let me fix this: You will, at least, admit that the REAL soldiers are fighting an unwinnable civil war in Iraq, right?
That’s correct. The phony soldiers are internet wannabe’s who are clueless about why we are there and are willing to demean and smear those who disagree with their cartoon perspective about the reality of the situation.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:18 pmLimbuagh’s ability to control the microphone does not make him right or entitles him to attacked soldiers who did go and fight while he chose not to when he was qualified to go to war, simply because they expressed an opinion based on what they saw ,experienced and went thru in the war they fought.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 pmThe loud voices whether pro and against war seem to be coming from people who never seen any action.
What gives Limbaugh that power or right to sit down in his studio judge and smear others in a field he never experienced ?..these people fought , while he went to play golf, smoked his cigar and made his $$ millions as a propagandist.
#43, gummitch,
NO, you USED a brain damaged veteran, so that, if Rush does debate him, you make Rush look bad for fighting a cripple – period.
Why don’t you find someone who isn’t part of your victim pool? Why not Harkin, etc., who have no problem using the Senate microphone, but won’t debate Rush directly? Those are obvious choices, but you just won’t do it.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 pmComment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
I’m sure that’s how you see it because that’s how Rush TOLD you to see it. Now who’s too stupid to think for himself?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 pmJason Misogynist Hendler sez:
Oh yes…you’re a real terror.
The “victims”, as you like to call them, don’t hold moral authority over you as a result of their injuries. The hold moral authority over you as a result of their selfless sacrifice for their country. The fact that you can’t differentiate between the two truly speaks volumes.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:22 pmRory,
“I see it…”
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:23 pmI don’t really give a f*ck how you see it.
Who knows phonys better than a Dr. Shopper looking for a fix?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:23 pmRory :
mcgough challenged “pimple ass”… GET IT NOW?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:24 pmInnocent Bystander:
At least you agree there ARE phony soldiers . . .
Totally, Rory….and I’d peg you as a pfc in that army. Soldier on…..General Limbaugh needs your support!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 pmRush stated that McGough is NOT a “phoney soldier.†GET IT NOW?
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
No, I don’t get it. But then, I would never mock a soldier or support someone who does. That whole line of thinking is beyond my comprehension.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:27 pm“Jason Misogynist Hendler sez:
Goddamn right! I don’t hold anything back from the obvious pawns of cowardly liberals – I’ve had to face down countless individuals who hold “victim status†with the liberals, thinking they hold moral authority over me.
Oh yes…you’re a real terror.
The “victimsâ€, as you like to call them, don’t hold moral authority over you as a result of their injuries. The hold moral authority over you as a result of their selfless sacrifice for their country. The fact that you can’t differentiate between the two truly speaks volumes.”
Typical lib approach – first you call me misogynist/bigot, whatever makes your message immediately more receptive to all who perceive themselves a member of liberal victimhood, then, you reinforce/elevate your victim status (and your own) by invoking someone else’s suffering/sacrifice. Still wonder why I pound you – shattering your phony image?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:29 pmPlease explain:
To a conservative, it makes sense to “support the troops” while criticising the patriotism of a decorated soldier.
To a liberal it makes sense to “support the troops” while criticising the excesses such as Abu Ghraib and Haditha.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:30 pm#43, gummitch,
NO, you USED a brain damaged veteran, so that, if Rush does debate him, you make Rush look bad for fighting a cripple – period.
Why don’t you find someone who isn’t part of your victim pool? Why not Harkin, etc., who have no problem using the Senate microphone, but won’t debate Rush directly? Those are obvious choices, but you just won’t do it.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
I used him? Me?
It never occurred to you, I suppose, that stepping up and making that commercial was his idea. No, he’s criticized your hero Rush, so that means he’s a dupe of the evil liberals, the ones hiding under your bed.
You’re the one who is assigning his victim status. I see brave soldier who gave up a chunk of his brain for this country and now has to put up with people like you who assume he can’t think for himself.
Why aren’t you over there in his place, “Jason”?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:30 pmRory,
Right you are. Sorry about that.
However you and your ilk still have no credibility, whatsoever, so the verbiage still drones like Charlie Browns teacher.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:32 pm#68, gummitch,
I seriously doubt that this particular veteran, on his own, acquired the production equipment, personnel and money to voice his own thoughts. He is obviously a willing victim of liberal propagandists who were seeking a voice to shout at Rush, and found their perfect victim – an injured vet who Rush couldn’t hit back.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:33 pmAnd of course the dems use Harkin, of all people, to condemn Rush.
Elected politician Harkin, a guy who lied about his own military record is going to condemn Rush Limbaugh, private citizen, about abusing the military. Its pathetic and comical.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:31 pm
I’m pretty sure Harkin used himself. Y’all have some sick ideas about using people. In our part of the world, people stand up for themselves and don’t need other people to use them as puppets. Obviously, your “reality” is different.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:34 pmYou will, at least, admit that the REAL soldiers are fighting a war in Iraq, right?
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
What are you saying? Not clear.
I seriously doubt that you are awake. You buy every reason for going to Iraq that they spew. You conveniently ignore the massive death toll.
You probably think that this “War” on terror is comparable to that of WWII where we faced TWO powerful countries and 50 million were dead by the time the smoke had cleared. You bought their scary stories about the terrorist boogeyman and act like the proverbial elephant that’s scared of a tiny mouse.
The soldiers should have never been dumped their by Bush in the first place. We could have dealt with the terrorist threat more quickly and in an intelligent manner, but no, we had to invade Iraq and spread our forces thin. How are things now in regards to security for the US? Worse, and you can’t prove otherwise.
Wake up.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:36 pmNO ONE is going to fight / debate a war veteran with brain injuries, which is EXACTLY why the libs chose this guy. Libs always have to hide behind victims to fight their battles – just once, foist someone on us who we wouldn’t hesitate to hit.
Harken, etc. are happy for this distraction, realizing that they stepped in it, and can’t back up their bullshit. Well, now you got both Rush and Fox News staring you down – whatcha boys gonna do now, march some girls scouts forward to fight for you?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:02 pm
Do you have a link or evidence that “libs chose this guy� You make it sound like McGough doesn’t have enough sense to have an opinion or make a decision on his own. I bet if you asked McGough, he would tell you he is NO victim and then proceed to beat the shit out of your smart ass while holding one hand behind his back.
Idiot.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:38 pmI seriously doubt that this particular veteran, on his own, acquired the production equipment, personnel and money to voice his own thoughts. He is obviously a willing victim of liberal propagandists who were seeking a voice to shout at Rush, and found their perfect victim – an injured vet who Rush couldn’t hit back.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
We seriously doubt that you, on your own, acquired the propaganda, talking points, and disinformation to voice your own dishonest attack on this person. You seem to think our troops can’t think or speak for themselves, unless they’re holding a GOP microphone and production equipment, like the former Gay Porn star military spokesman Fox News used to parade out.
Rush can hit back, and in fact a wounded soldier never stopped him before, neither did a man dying of Parkinson’s. Neither did it stop you from smearing him as incapable of thinking for himself, and a pawn. You’re a shameless individual, and no different from Rush! What a pathetic excuse for a human being you wingnuts have become!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:41 pmLimbaugh is a prototypical modern “conservative”. He’s a coward. The fascists that drive the propaganda machine at Faux News and on wingnut radio are bullying cowards.
Not only are Hannity, O’Reilly, Limbaugh, and their disgusting ilk chickenhawks, they don’t even have the courage to fight fair on their programs. The dittoheads and the Faux followers are simply incapable of understanding how grotesquely they’ve been manipulated. Not the sharpest knives in the drawer, that lot.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:42 pmTypical lib approach – first you call me misogynist/bigot, Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:29 pm
You are a mysognist and bigot.
whatever makes your message immediately more receptive to all who perceive themselves a member of liberal victimhood, Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:29 pm
Oh, but Hendler, next to you, practically noone looks like a professional victim! You whine constantly about liberals victimizing you – just like the previous sentence! Whine, Whine, Whine, you’re such a whiny little girl!
then, you reinforce/elevate your victim status (and your own) by invoking someone else’s suffering/sacrifice. Still wonder why I pound you – shattering your phony image?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:29 pm
You mean like the wounded soldier that kept whining about being spit on, even when videotape showed him to be a professional victim and liar? You know all of that projection really should tell you to get some mental health professional services! Surely that company of yours can afford to get you the treatment you so clearly deserve!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:43 pmWow Rory you are putting in some long hours on the internet with the three kids you claim to have. I had 3 kids and couldn’t even find time to read a book for myself.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:43 pmAt least we agree there ARE indeed “phony soldiers.†It’s a start.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:42 pm
Right you are, Rory…
Bush, Cheney, Rush…
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:44 pmRory,
Any soldier that set foot on Iraqi soldier is legitimate, can we agree on that?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:44 pmArn Gunnutes:
At least we agree there ARE indeed “phony soldiers.†It’s a start.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:42 pm
Yes, draft dodgers like Rush, and Bush – who ‘pretend’ to be he-men women haters…
You have no excuses though, little girl!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:44 pmWow Rory you are putting in some long hours on the internet with the three kids you claim to have. I had 3 kids and couldn’t even find time to read a book for myself.
Comment by texaslady — October 2, 2007 @ 9:43 pm
Maybe she’s been going to the Mighty Aphrodite school of fake kid abandonment and dead baby joke seminars?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:45 pmThat would be “Iraqi soil”…typing too fast there.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:45 pmSOMEONE told him that Rush had called every service member opposed to the war “phony soldiers.†I think it is clear above that Rush does not think that at least ONE service member opposed to the war is a “phony soldier.â€
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
Actually a caller said that, and Rush agreed with him.
What’s clear is how readily you apologists are to ignore the hateful statements you make, while criticizing the honest questions from those that dissent from your questionable (and later proved to be completely false) statements.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:47 pmThis really is a conundrum for the fascists. They’ll lie, steal, cheat and edit the transcript, but once the military and their families turn on them, the jig may be up.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:49 pm“Looks like we can all agree there are “phony soldiers.†The hard part is determining who they are . . .
Comment by Rory
They’re called mercenaries, a la Blackwater USA.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:49 pmIll say it again, I sure am proud of the new democrat majority houses working on behalf of America. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
Hey, they did America a service by publicly demonstrating what dishonest, and hypocritical liars you all are. That’s a pretty big accomplishment!
I am praying that the dems drag this out forever, in fact I hope Reid hosts another slumber-party stunt next week. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
So do we, the more this is in the news, the more like baby sore losers that refuse to hold their own to decent standards you are shown to be. Only in the delusional wingnut blogs do people actually think you’re benefiting from your bad PR!
First Petraeus and now a private citizen radio jock…who ISNT on the hit-list of the feckless democrat majority?
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
Actually it was Moveon that was on the hitlist, and by your wingnut friends. Ironically the questions about petraeus being deceptive were proven to be true by the Pentagon the following week. So moveon was right. However Rush, and the feckless Minority republicans are too cowardly to live by their own standards.
You’re a bunch of wimpy, sore loser, lying, hypocrites. Not that anyone paying attention for the last 7 years need reminding of this!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:50 pmThe DARVO Act:
Rush on Air: “Phony soldiers”
Act 1,
‘Deny’
Rush: I didnt call any soldiers phony! I am not the offender!!
Act 2
‘Attack’
This is all hyperbole created, a conspiracy, Reid and Media Matters, they are lying! They all lie Wahhh!! Poor me! Im the victim!!
Act 3
‘Reverse Roles’
[victim/offender]
They are taking what I said out context, they are smearing my good name and trying to destroy my radio show!
Almost an exact replay of Oreillys visit to a black restaurant.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:51 pmDinner’s done and everyone’s doing their homework. Thanks for your concern though. Looks like we can all agree there are “phony soldiers.†The hard part is determining who they are . . .
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:47 pm
Not in the military, or having served honorably – unlike what Rush said.
I’m glad you finally condemned Rush for his Reckless Slur!
Oh wait, you haven’t had the honesty and decency to do that yet.
As for the kids doing their homework, shouldn’t you be helping them? You wouldn’t want them to end up like yourself, deficient intellectually or something, now would you?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:51 pmI wonder how many Limpwad transcripts could be turned up where he rails against those he claimed didn’t “Support the Troops”
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:52 pmHis comments are deplorable, disgusting, and totally wacko.
To be perfectly clear then, everyone agrees with Rush that there ARE indeed “phony soldiers� We just are nevar going to agree which ones are “phony†or not.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
To be perfectly clear then, you agree that Rush calling our Soldiers, Phony was an unacceptable slur?
Or course not. You can’t possibly be a decent human being, you’re not even a real mother – at least not without the two syllables that follow it naturally in your case.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:53 pmRory @ 97,
So then it stands to reason that the very soldiers that Limbaugh denigrated, the one’s he calls “phony”, are in fact legitimate. Can we all agree that it was a serious error in judgment on his part?
Hey, Rush is only human, I mean he doesn’t really believe all that self-congratulatory nonsense he spews every day, right? I’m guessing Rush Limbaugh is about the most insecure man ever to speak into a microphone. Hence the wicked drug jones.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:53 pmRyan,
Just as Bill Maher stated on his own show, just because you criticize a black or a woman, doesn’t make you a racist or a bigot. Libs always foist a woman or minority into the debate, so if they lose the arguement, they can at least then scream discrimination, as is the case in this issue.
Again, bring forth your champion who can’t claim special victim status, and put this person on Rush’s show. Better still, since Harkin is keen to run his mouth in the Senate, then put him on Rush’s show, since he has already volunteered.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:53 pmClinton, Clinton, Edwards…
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
When were they wearing Bush’s Codpiece? Oh wait, more projection from the “Phony Soldier” – wink wink.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:53 pmPhony Soldier?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:55 pma Iraq bound Neocon forcibley in uniform with a large peestain and soggy boots
Just as Bill Maher stated on his own show, just because you criticize a black or a woman, doesn’t make you a racist or a bigot. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
But calling black people professional victims (your action) does.
Libs always foist a woman or minority into the debate, so if they lose the arguement, they can at least then scream discrimination, as is the case in this issue. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
That opinion alone is about as racist as it comes.
Again, bring forth your champion who can’t claim special victim status, and put this person on Rush’s show. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
Maybe you should talk to Fox about that, as they love bringing out wounded soldiers. Your projection though, is pretty tiresome son.
Better still, since Harkin is keen to run his mouth in the Senate, then put him on Rush’s show, since he has already volunteered.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
Oh please, Bush couldn’t get off his fat cyst to eat a donut. You really think he has any more b*lls than you do? You’re both wimpy-men, and that’s why you’re so misogynistic and sexist. Self loathing!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:56 pmRyan
“Actually it was Moveon that was on the hitlist, and by your wingnut friends. Ironically the questions about petraeus being deceptive were proven to be true by the Pentagon the following week. So moveon was right. However Rush, and the feckless Minority republicans are too cowardly to live by their own standards.
You’re a bunch of wimpy, sore loser, lying, hypocrites. Not that anyone paying attention for the last 7 years need reminding of this!”
It was the Democratically controlled congress that condemned MoveOn.org, so how can you claim that it is just Reps?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:56 pmJust as Bill Maher stated on his own show, just because you criticize a black or a woman, doesn’t make you a racist or a bigot.
That would be true if one were to leave the word black out of the criticism, unfortunately Oreilly doesn’t do that.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:56 pmIt was the Democratically controlled congress that condemned MoveOn.org, so how can you claim that it is just Reps?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
They did it to prove the hypocrisy of the Repubs. And we see today that they will not criticise their own.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:58 pmYah, the U.S. Senate decides to excoriate a private citizen for exercising his freedom of speech. Wow, quite the accomplishment. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
Yah, the republicans in the US Senate publican excoriated a private group for exercising their freedom of speech. Wow, the accomplishment is all yours! Hypocrite
You obviously havent seen the latest poll numbers for the democrat-controlled houses, coming on the heels of the disastrous Petraeus debacle. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
You mean the latest polls that show over 50% of Americans are now Democrats, only 37% of Professionals/Money people are now Republicans, and that the Democrats in Congress still have higher polling numbers than either the President or the Republicans in Congress? Those numbers?
Yeah, reality has a bias that hates you son.
Go ask Harkin how many combat missions he flew over Vietnam.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
Yet he doesn’t have the b*lls to stand up to losers like you and not be a hypocrite. Ah the glory days of youth, when the man still had b*lls. What, did he get those shot off in Vietnam as well – like you?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:59 pm#115, Ryan,
You are making my points for me. Indiscriminately labelling all criticism associated with a woman / minority as bigotted causes your labeling to lose affect. Political correctness is dying, because Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Jason M. Hendler aren’t afraid to push ANYONE who pushes us.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:59 pmI thought Bush ate pretzels, Ryan Neat?
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:58 pm
Rush, not Bush.
No, Jay11, we can’t agree (as I’ve made abundantly clear on several anti-Rush threads now). He was only calling out those who even I agree are “phony soldiers.†Now, I realize you may think that Bush is the “phony soldier†but, as I stated above, we will have to agree to disagree on that.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:57 pm
That’s a lie. What you point out, just makes you look ignorant, and/or illiterate little girl. I hope you aren’t home schooling those children, otherwise surely some crime is being committed!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:00 pmHe was only calling out those who even I agree are “phony soldiers.â€
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:57 pm
Rory, except that he later included Murtha in his description of a phony soldier. Didn’t Murtha in fact, serve? Or does your understanding of Rush’s definition of phony soldier and your agreement with it have some exceptions?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:01 pmIn effect, Jason, they, Repubs, are making themselves hypocrites with their own handywork and lack of self-critcism.
Its like watching Fonzi try to say the he was ‘ww- w- wrong’ They simply cannot and will not admit they are hypocrites.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:01 pmWho are the phony soldiers? There are hundreds of soldiers now openly speaking out against the war and against the Bush administration, are they all phonies? We have soldiers with shrapnel in their bodies calling out the righwing hypocrites for never putting their own asses on the line but cheering unabashedly for war. Are they phony? Who the fuc# are the phony soldiers?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:01 pmPolitical correctness is dying, because Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Jason M. Hendler aren’t afraid to push ANYONE who pushes us.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
No, the fact is the Democrats push their own, you cant even bring yourself to criticize yourself, thats called HYPOCRISY and thats the problem with conservatism.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:02 pmYou are making my points for me. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
If your goal is to prove what a misogynistic sexist bigot you are, then yep, I sure am. In your compromised disease though, I know you can miss social and subtle clues, so it’s OK, you can catch up to the rest of the boys and girls later when the short bus comes by for you.
Indiscriminately labelling all criticism associated with a woman / minority as bigotted causes your labeling to lose affect. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
Indiscriminately saying that the inclusion of a minority or woman is a racist act causes you to be proven to be a racist/sexist pig.
Political correctness is dying, because Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Jason M. Hendler aren’t afraid to push ANYONE who pushes us.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
Only among politically incorrect pigs, and redstate rednecks. You really should hang out with a higher class of people, the red is rubbing off on you Hendler.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:02 pmArn Gunnutes,
I like your style!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:03 pmF*ck the whole lot Conserv666ative Christ666ian republic666ans. Evil people with black hearts, chicken-hawk pieces of sh!t that send others to die for their delusions and ignorance. F*ck playing nice! Backwards ass inbred NASCAR watching sister f*cking trailer trash the lot of them!
No, Candyce, I agree that Murtha is a “phony soldier.†Cowards cut and run. Marines never do.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
Says the “Phony Mom”. Sorry, but this is exactly the kind of smear, slur and attack that shows why you and your party are unworthy of even talking to. You’re human filth, nothing more.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:03 pmI’m not the one who typed “Bush†instead of “Rush.â€
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 10:01 pm
Didn’t say you were, catch up, homeschool.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:04 pmwijg:
SOMEONE told him that Rush had called every service member opposed to the war “phony soldiers.†I think it is clear above that Rush does not think that at least ONE service member opposed to the war is a “phony soldier.â€
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
Are you serious? So you don’t think McGough read the transcript and made his own decision? You people honestly have NO respect for our men and women fighting over there do you? Contrary to what you believe they are not brainless killing machines, they are thinking, feeling human beings.
You make me sick.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:04 pm“Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Jason M. Hendler aren’t afraid to push ANYONE who pushes us.”
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
My, my, haven’t you joined an august company!
Looks like quite the little cheese sandwich to me……
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:04 pmWhat does Ann smell like, hmmm?
Bleu? Roquefort?
Wait, wait, I got it! Limbaughger!!!
“Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Jason M. Hendler aren’t afraid to push ANYONE who pushes us.â€
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Otherwise known as the shrill little whiny girls in the corner. Wah, Wah, Wah… You’re all just so fascinating, NOT!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:05 pmNo, Candyce, I agree that Murtha is a “phony soldier.†Cowards cut and run. Marines never do.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
Spoken like a guy who’s never served. Very good. So, you now admit Rush lied about the phony soldier context. We’re making progress at least.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:05 pmRory @ 130
“cowards cut and run. Marines never do”
Are you a marine? What on earth is cut and run? Getting our marines asses out of the hell hole that the warmongers and profiteers have created is called saving their lives, not cutting and running. Please understand the distinction.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:05 pmA conservative government is an organized hypocrisy.
Benjamin Disraeli, Speech in the House of Commons, Mar. 3, 1845
British politician (1804 – 1881)
It was as true then as it is today.
Haggard? A hypocrite.
Mark Foley who helped create child stalking laws? Hypocrite.
Karl Rove compassionate conservatism? More Hypocrisy.
The list goes on and on.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:06 pm#126, Xisithrus,
MoveOn.org published a 4 word statement of Gen. Petraeus that could not possibly be misinterpreted as anything but calling him a traitor. Rush is embroiled in a controversy spanning weeks / months of his show handling cases in which libs push the fraudulent stories of “soldiers”, so there is nothing hypocritical in their respective approaches. MoveOn.org got spanked by a Democratically controlled congress, while Rush won’t be touched by a Democratically controlled congress – don’t like it, stop voting for Dems.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:06 pmRory @ 130 “cowards cut and run. Marines never doâ€
So now your bashing Bush Sr and Ronald Reagan?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:07 pmRush was a scared coward when his country needed him during the Vietnam War. Yes druggie child molester Rush got a quack Doctor to give him an illness so he wouldn’t have to serve in the US Military.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:07 pmI notice most of the men who are pushing for our troops to die for oil didn’t join the Military themselves.
Yes I know some of our elected officials are closet gays, druggies, perverts and just scared to be men. But they see no problem talking about real men. I loved the Marine called Bush when he visited Walter Reed. Yes our troops are letting it out as the injured Marine called Bush a Bi-ch to his face not once but twice. Yes the Military news to families of those serving in the service get much more of the news then the regular spin by the White House Media. These guys in our Military really tell it like it is.
Nope, the polls that have congress at about 11% approval and General Petraeus at 60% approval, hence the “coming on the heels of the Petraeus debacle†reference.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
Congressional Democrats poll at 38, Bush 33, the Republicans mid 20s.
You really should read the polls more carefully, the general poll of congress is as much a frustration at obstruction Republicans as it is anything. And the breakout poll shows this. The majority of Americans (over 50%) see the Republicans as the problem with Congressional progress.
It really sucks to be a republican liar, in the age of the internet! Good for you that you’re anonymous! If people in the real world could see how stupid people like you look on this blog – oh boy for you!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:08 pmNo but they are nazis, at least according to Durbin(D).
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 10:07 pm
Hey, some of you are, and you do tend to like the boots!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:08 pmMoveOn.org published a 4 word statement of Gen. Petraeus that could not possibly be misinterpreted as anything but calling him a traitor. -Jason Hendler
And what is the difference between that and what Rush is implying?
NONE.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:09 pmRush Limbaugh was probably too fat to qualify for the armed forces – that and all of the drugs in his bloodstream, that is! This man a one huge, obese joke on the reichwing nutcases. He’s the locksteppers wet dream with his bigotry and idiocy – their poster child. What they fail to realize is that someday Rush will tell them all “they’ve been X-ed”! hahahaha.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:10 pmI wouldn’t flatter Hendler or Rush with making him the topic of any credible thread. Bor-ing!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:10 pm#149, Ryan,
Cherry picking polls again. Fox has Rush at 32% and Congress at 26%. These numbers jump around, but generally have the Congress polling below the Prez.
Reps will take back the Congress in 2008, and will be led by much stronger leaders like McConnell, Lott, Boehner and Blunt – they don’t play around.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:11 pmJack Murtha is a phony soldier huh? Rory, I’ll ask you again, are you a marine? Have you served? What the difference between “real” soldiers and…you know, the fake ones?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:12 pmFortunately, we can form our own opinions about who is and who is not a phony.
Your choice (a) someone who has no war experience and lives off of stokes the fires of hatred in order to make himself look smarter
or…..
(b) someone who had seen first hand what is happening and gives his/her opinion.
Yes we know who the phonies are. Rush is one of the biggest ever. When he does pass from the airwaves eventually, it will not be with honors.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:12 pmhttp://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/09/29/hunt/index.html
What about what David Hunt said on FOX Jason?
Our generals are betraying our soldiers . . . again.
I know what moveon said Jason, and I suppose you think I agree with such words. The fact is I dont.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:12 pmWell, Rush obviously thinks of himself as great for having a big purple cist on his butt and probably on his brain, too.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:13 pmI’m taking a break from working on a translation and haven’t had time to look at other comments, so I hope no one has written roughly the same thing.
#152, Xis,
You are trying to infer that Rush called “all soldiers who oppose the Iraq War” phony based on one snippet of his weeks / months long diatribe against many frauds who’ve been found out. MoveOn.org published 4 words that CANNOT be misinterpreted, whereas Rush is being taken out of context – THAT is the difference.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:14 pmComment by non-Caring
LiberalConpervative — October 2, 2007At least have the courage to call yourself a conservative.
What about Scanlon? What about those bridges to nowhere? What about the (R) culture of corruption cloaked in the name of Jesus?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:15 pm#159, Xis,
I don’t think you, or most people, agree with MoveOn.org. I am just trying to explain why there is a tremendous difference between what MoveOn.org stated and what Rush Limbaugh stated.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:16 pmRepublican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an “assistant U.S. attorney” appointed by President Bush’s attorney general.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:16 pm\
Hypocrisy! Gonzo said he wanted to protect the children?
And what is the difference between that and what Rush is implying?
NONE.
Comment by Xisithrus — October 2, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
I actually see a difference. Generals are supposed to be criticized if their policies and actions are questionable. They don’t have carte blanch immunity from oversight. It’s part of the job, and they are answerable to the American people.
Soldiers on the ground, who serve with honor regardless of what they think about the policies, are not fair game for political pundits who would attack them for their views. The guys who wrote the op-ed said it very clearly. We need not talk about our morale. As committed soldiers, we will see this mission through. And that’s all that matters – regardless of their view of the mission, they are all “real soldiers” who will do their duty.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:16 pmReps will take back the Congress in 2008, and will be led by much stronger leaders like McConnell, Lott, Boehner and Blunt – they don’t play around.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 10:11 pm
I recall your telling us around this time last year that the Republicans would win big in November 2006, Jason/bogus Stanford/Ivy League grad. By “they don’t play around,” do you mean they don’t go after teenage pages like Mark Foley or toe-dance in toilets like Senator Craig?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:16 pmCaring Liberal,
What’s a poverty speech? Does Edwards make “poverty speeches” often, or does he make speeches in which poverty is addressed? Do the “poor” folks have to cough up the 50K? Does it come out of their food stamp allotment or their welfare checks?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:17 pmReps will take back the Congress in 2008, and will be led by much stronger leaders like McConnell, Lott, Boehner and Blunt – they don’t play around. Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Mconnell has already been caught lying, Boehner is just another version of the corrupt Delay and Blunts wife is a lobbyist with ties to stem cell research. More ‘value voter’ hypocrisy.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:19 pmNight, Jake.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:20 pm#168, Lora,
LOL – I remember when John Kerry made his gaff before the 2006 election, causing him, Reid and Pelosi to hide for 3 weeks until the Dems could squeak through with narrow margins. No one on TP believed that you would win either, and in the end, you didn’t. Dems have given the Reps the best cover through this war, causing Hill’reh to really have to sweat an otherwise simple task of winning in 2008. Even if Hill’reh pulls it off, the Congress will move back to Rep control.
I do have an MSEE from Stanford, and several patents to my name, which you can look up.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:21 pmRory,
Win what? The only winners are the war-profiteers and they’ve been wiping their asses with our tax dollars for years now. The Bush admin has won what they set out to win (unless you count Iran’s resources too), access to the natural resources under Iraqi sand. This war really is about preserving our way of life as we were told in the beginning. If we lose access to the cheap, sweet, light, crude…our fallacious economy cannot continue to expand. Simple.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:22 pm“No, Candyce, I agree that Murtha is a “phony soldier.†Cowards cut and run. Marines never do.
Comment by Rory
Bush Sr served in the forces and cut and ran from baghdad, I guess he’s now a phony soldier?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:23 pmRepublican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
^^^This is the kind of people that Jason votes for.^^
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:24 pmClear Channel backing Rush:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298999,00.html
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:24 pmI recall your telling us around this time last year that the Republicans would win big in November 2006, Jason/bogus Stanford/Ivy League grad. By “they don’t play around,†do you mean they don’t go after teenage pages like Mark Foley or toe-dance in toilets like Senator Craig?
Comment by Lora — October 2, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
Considering all the “issues” with the Repug Congressmen, the ones not in jail or not outed will still lose many seats in what may be the biggest landslide in history. And the Dems are outraising the Repugs by almost a 3 to 1 margin, so this will be a fun time to not be a Repug!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:25 pmRepublican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
Another of Jasons heros!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:26 pm#179, Xis,
Don’t be silly. I don’t approve of such behaviour, and they should be prosecuted same as anyone else.
Dems, on the other hand, support Ted Kennedy and Barney Franks’ illegal behaviours, re-electing them over and over again.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:27 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJZoai2HIeA
LMAO.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:27 pmRight, so the fact that Gore consumes fuel to spread his message makes it less valid how? Would it make you fell less threatened if Gore sat behind a keyboard and warned us about the fact that the earth is sick? How would you propose he spread the message across the globe? Message in a bottle?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:28 pmDon’t be silly. I don’t approve of such behaviour, and they should be prosecuted same as anyone else. Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Unless its Rush and FOX doing what moveon did.
Your hypocrisy is showing, again.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:29 pm“No, Candyce, I agree that Murtha is a “phony soldier.†Cowards cut and run. Marines never do.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 10:02 pmâ€
So….. Then soldiers are ONLY soldiers if YOU determine that they fit the requirements that YOU set???
IDIOT!!!!
What is YOUR MOS?
If you have none, the STFU!
Comment by RemoveBush — October 2, 2007 @ 10:20 pm
This is one sick puppy, as he doesn’t even know that Murtha was a f’ing Marine! Rory was only a soldier in his warped little mind.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:29 pmRepublican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
Another of Jasons heros!
jason, is this true?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:31 pm#
Who do you vote for, xisithrus, the man who leaves a young woman to drown or the Grand Cyclops?
Comment by Caring Liberal
Who do you vote for, Cunninghams and hookers? Vitters and prosititutes?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:32 pm#185, xis,
Bubba Clinton gets a blowjob from Monica, and you giggle over Bush Sr. slapping Teri Hatcher on the ass?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:33 pmCaring Liberal, I’ll see your Chappaquiddick and raise you an Iran-Contra, a George was AWOL, and 6 Cheney deferments. Hey, if you’re going to sling shameless talking points…
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:34 pmBubba Clinton gets a blowjob from Monica, and you giggle over Bush Sr. slapping Teri Hatcher on the ass?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Well its certainly more current than Newt cheating on his wife, or Rep. Bob Livingston cheating on his wife while castigating Clinton.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:36 pm#190, Joe,
Of course, child molestors / statutory rapists should be prosecuted.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 pmI would prefer that Gore spread his message by example, taking public airlines would be a good start instead of private jet.
How about George do the same on his record vacations to Crawford at public expense?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 pmGoddamn right! I don’t hold anything back from the obvious pawns of cowardly liberals – I’ve had to face down countless individuals who hold “victim status†with the liberals, thinking they hold moral authority over me. Bah! There is only one way to dispatch them – quickly and decisively – allowing them to scream victim as their only resort. After awhile, their tactic loses affect, so that they can’t use it anymore, which is why/how libs have lost power in this country.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
Ah, yes. They are obviously pawns. Just like all of the veterans in higher office right now who are, on the whole, in support of the Democrats and see military action as a last resort. Just like the multitude of Vietnam vets who came back from that war and joined the protests. Just like the countless vets from countless wars over the centuries who’ve come back from the horrific violence of war, and wanted to then end as much war as they could. To prevent others from having to experience the horrors, commit the atrocities, be privy to the darkest side of humanity. Yeah, all those poor pawns wanting better, more peaceful lives for their friends and families.
As for your “tactic”, it is a pathetic, intellectually shallow, fear-based plow. You do not “debate”. You do not present your argument and then debate the rebuttals on their merits. You do not attempt honest discourse, and are quick to rely on ad hominems. The strawmen you build would have made the Colossus jealous at the sheer size of each, and frightened of the number present. You do not even argue. You simply attempt to scream loudest, and drown everyone else out.
Repetition and volume do not a convincing argument make.
Get a new shtick.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 pm“I would prefer that Gore spread his message by example, taking public airlines would be a good start instead of private jet.”
…and I would would prefer that swaths of polar ice caps the size of Texas weren’t disappearing on a regular basis….time is short and if he can reach more people flying privately, he should.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 pmI can’t believe that a radio show host being misquoted has gone this far. As a Democrat this makes me sick to see people we elected running with a comment that was taken out of context. It shows me that we have some very corupt politicans that are being used to do moveon.orgs dirty work. I recently watched “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” again and it fits into what is happening right now in Washington. We have massive corruption from the far left that is affecting mainstream Democrats. It is embarassing and painfully obvious what is going on. It is giving the right plenty of fodder for the next election.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 pm#195, Xis,
I would like to know what they were saying to each other to prompt Sr. to smack Teri on the ass. From a distance, it seems inappropriate, but it could be harmless.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:38 pmWASHINGTON (AP) — Federal employees wasted at least $146 million over a one-year period in business- or first-class airline tickets bought in violation of travel policies, congressional investigators say.
How about that Air Travel uncaring conservative?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:38 pmRepublican Mayor Jim West
championed an anti-gay agenda,
but was later found to be gay himself
The hypocrite party…
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:40 pmAh, yes. They are obviously pawns. Just like all of the veterans in higher office right now who are, on the whole, in support of the Democrats and see military action as a last resort. Just like the multitude of Vietnam vets who came back from that war and joined the protests. Just like the countless vets from countless wars over the centuries who’ve come back from the horrific violence of war, and wanted to then end as much war as they could. To prevent others from having to experience the horrors, commit the atrocities, be privy to the darkest side of humanity. Yeah, all those poor pawns wanting better, more peaceful lives for their friends and families.
As for your “tacticâ€, it is a pathetic, intellectually shallow, fear-based plow. You do not “debateâ€. You do not present your argument and then debate the rebuttals on their merits. You do not attempt honest discourse, and are quick to rely on ad hominems. The strawmen you build would have made the Colossus jealous at the sheer size of each, and frightened of the number present. You do not even argue. You simply attempt to scream loudest, and drown everyone else out.
Repetition and volume do not a convincing argument make.
Get a new shtick.
Comment by Moderation — October 2, 2007 @ 10:37
That’s why they say war is hell. Without War we’d be speaking German by now and all jews would be dead.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:40 pm#198, Moderation,
“Repetition and volume do not a convincing argument make.”
You should have learned from Joe Biden’s mistake, and not speak like Yoda.
I do argue points, etc. My point is that libs roll out their victims to fight their fights for them – that is just plain lazy.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:41 pmbahaahaa, Hendler. making predictions once again? your track record speaks
volumes, freako. Care to re-read your posts on this particular thread? No
one forced anyone to speak out against this bullsh*t occupation.
there was no “dragging” out of any individual, you f*ck. man, you make me sick.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:43 pmalways have, always will. I giggle at you. li’l squating babbling ass.
Who do you vote for, Frank and gay hookers? Jefferson and extortionists?
Comment by Caring Liberal
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:43 pmIts pretty obvious who you vote for, and let me answer by saying that I would not vote for ANYONE that you would vote for.
You should have learned from Joe Biden’s mistake, and not speak like Yoda.Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
You should have learned from Rush, and kept your foot out of your mouth.
I do argue points, etc. My point is that libs roll out their victims to fight their fights for them – that is just plain lazy.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
Now you attack the soldier as not having a mind of his own. Typical hatemonger. Why do you hate our soldiers so much, when they exercise their right to free speech? Goebbels would be proud of your attack on american values!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:43 pmWho do you vote for, Frank and gay hookers? Jefferson and extortionists?
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
Gay hookers? He didn’t say he was a republican, pay attention!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:44 pmOf course, child molestors / statutory rapists should be prosecuted.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
When can we expect to hear that you’ve turned yourself in then?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:45 pm#196 jason
goodbye gop!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:45 pm#210, Ryan,
Libs sprinted to put production equipment, personnel and media outlets at this injured vet’s disposal to make these statements. Why couldn’t they get Harkin to back up his BS?
Doesn’t matter. Fox News, Clear Channel and his fans back up Rush, and so will the Dem controlled congress.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:46 pm#196 jason
goodbye gop!
Comment by joe cantwell — October 2, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
The GOP is now as popular as Jason was in high school – it explains the unnatural attraction!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:46 pmBubba Clinton gets a blowjob from Monica, and you giggle over Bush Sr. slapping Teri Hatcher on the ass?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
Monica offered. Hatcher was molested. You are a stupid one. hendler, another goosestepper ready to give your country away to those that failed miserbly on 9/11. that’s Bush’s legacy: the massive security failures of 9/11, followed by the massive failure of katrina. failures of historical proportions, which will put the Republicans into the politacl wilderness for decades, where they belong.
“If the earth is on the edge of destruction and we need to act aggressively to save it (his message), you would think Gore would be willing to set the example he desires the rest of us to follow.”
Your blind ahtred and jealousy of the competence of democratioc politicians is well-known, and nothing Gore could do would make y8ou see the light. it’s just pure hate that you carry, basted in ignorance and fear. The fact that Republicans spent $146 moillion last year on unwarranted, unnecessary first-class airfare doesn’t bother you, but Gore flying to his appointments does. Bush flying off and disappearing for three days after 9/11 doesn’t bother you, but Gore living in a big house does. if Gore did everything you wanted him to do, you’d just call him a lefty nutbag. We know your stupid, putrid little first-grade game, and this time it’s going to cost you the White House and both houses of Congress, in veto-proof majorities. Then the democratic president is going to use all of Bush’s fascist powers to destroy and bury the scumbag arms dealers that have run this country into the ground and led us into military defeat and embarrassment over the past 7 years. You can worship Bush and Cheney when they are wearing orange jumpsuits and hoods, just before their executions for crimes against humanity.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:48 pmWho do you vote for, Frank and gay hookers? Jefferson and extortionists?
Comment by Caring Liberal
Anyone that you dont vote for, the Republicans know you are a bunch of dopes that believe anything they say with their luntzian emotional talking points. And thats why we have the culture of corruption, the lack of ethics, the lack of fiscal responsibility we do today.
Rush is another blower of hot air and simply because he says “Im a conservative” you believe that.
Dupes, the Republicans today are duped by the talking heads, and you know what, you deserve the screwing they are giving you.
HEH.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:48 pmLibs sprinted to put production equipment, personnel and media outlets at this injured vet’s disposal to make these statements. Why couldn’t they get Harkin to back up his BS? Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 10:46 pm
Yeah, and the media hasn’t done that for Rush as well… Why do you hate the military heroes when they use their free speech?
Doesn’t matter. Fox News, Clear Channel and his fans back up Rush, and so will the Dem controlled congress.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 10:46 pm
You mean the Republican filibustering congress, that prefers to show the whole country what a bunch of whiny little girls, and hypocrites you all are? You wimps just put the nail in your election hopes! Thanks!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:48 pmAt the least I would have run to the nearest house and banged on the door. Kennedy didnt even do that.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 10:47 pm
You obviously have no facts in this case whatsoever.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:49 pm#212, Ryan,
…. so calling me a bigot isn’t affective enough to undermine my arguments, that you now have to call me a child molestor / statutory rapist?
Libs have no leg to stand on anymore.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:49 pmNo, I wasnt there but you know this because had I been there, I would have CALLED FOR HELP instead of heading home to take a nap and making the call the next day.
At the least I would have run to the nearest house and banged on the door. Kennedy didnt even do that.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 10:47 pm
How do you know, have you ever been in shock before? Or are you just speculating that you would have b*lls, in spite of no evidence that you are capable of using them?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:49 pmWhen Reagan and GHWBush sold massive amounts of weaponry illegally to Iran, John Kerry prosecuted it and Republicans covered it up.
Carter had an embargo against Saddam. Reagan instantly removed it. What was Rumsfeld doing there?
It wasn’t liberals who caused the deaths of over 3800 of our troops (and wounding 30,000). It was conservatives. At a cost to taxpayers of $2 Trillion. Resulting in a tremendous recruiting tool and training ground for terrorists. As a result, our Army and Marines are broken and we are less safe.
Rush Limbaugh bought many thousands of oxycontin illegally. One guy got 25 years for selling two!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:49 pmAt the least I would have run to the nearest house and banged on the door. Kennedy didnt even do that.
Comment by Caring Liberal
Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys — ages ten and 12 — during a six-year period.
And what did this guy do?
Did you see him running to a neighbors house and reporting what he did? Of course not. Creepy Republican perverts.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:50 pm#212, Ryan,
…. so calling me a bigot isn’t affective enough to undermine my arguments, that you now have to call me a child molestor / statutory rapist? Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
Well to be fair, you have made lots of bigoted statements, including tonight. So considering that shoe fits, it’s safe to say that at least one of the other GOP pervert prerequisites also does!
Libs have no leg to stand on anymore.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
Projection from the one legged liar.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:51 pmHendler accuses military heroes as being ‘victims’, and defends Rush’s anti-military hate speech while accusing others of having no legs to stand on!
And the wingnuts wonder why there’s a 15% spread in the voters that now are registered Dem!! These guys are ‘professional’ Losers! This is way beyond amateur now!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:53 pm“ That’s why they say war is hell. Without War we’d be speaking German by now and all jews would be dead.
Comment by chriswyse
Your an idiot, America almost spoke Deutsch, but by one vote they didn’t, but it wasn’t because of Hitler, it was because the Pilgrims, many of them were exiles from Europe, and from whence the Geneva bible came, John Calvin.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:54 pmCan you say Geneva Chriswyse? Do you know where Geneva is?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:55 pmThen at this point your choices seem to be narrowing down to Hillary or Obama. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
And Edwards. But our primary is none of your business, republican hack.
Neither will commit to leaving Iraq during their term, Obama wants to invade Pakistan and Hillary’s odd demeanor is scaring people. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
Hehe, odd demeanor, that’s better than Guly’s Odd Makeup!
Be sure to punch that chad cleanly.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
Be ready to hate 2008-2016 – loser!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:55 pm“Repetition and volume do not a convincing argument make.â€
You should have learned from Joe Biden’s mistake, and not speak like Yoda.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
Once again, you Immediately resort to an ad hominem. Once again, no debate, and no rebuttal
This would seem to imply a formal concession of argument.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:56 pmI can’t believe that a radio show host being misquoted has gone this far. As a Democrat this makes me sick to see people we elected running with a comment that was taken out of context. It shows me that we have some very corupt politicans that are being used to do moveon.orgs dirty work. I recently watched “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington†again and it fits into what is happening right now in Washington. We have massive corruption from the far left that is affecting mainstream Democrats. It is embarassing and painfully obvious what is going on. It is giving the right plenty of fodder for the next election.
Comment by chriswyse — October 2, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
moveon speaks truth to power, if you don’t like it, you are a lousy American, and certainly no liberal. Limbaugh has been doing nothing but lying for years, and has virtually never told the truth about anything. That’s a fact, and well-documented. he’s a drug addict, a chjild-molester, and an abusive spouse, besides being a fat, lying gasbag. anybody defending him has no credibility and no love for the USA.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:56 pmWho do you vote for, xisithrus, the man who leaves a young woman to drown or the Grand Cyclops?
Comment by Caring Liberal
Until people like Phony Liberal stop bringing up Ted Kennedy’s unfortunate accident, I will remind them that 17-year old Laura Welch (now Bush) ran trhough a STOP sign to hit another car and cause the death of its driver, her high school classmate and rumored ex-sweetheart.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:57 pmThen at this point your choices seem to be narrowing down to Hillary or Obama. -uncaring CON
Got projection?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:58 pmI will remind them that 17-year old Laura Welch (now Bush) ran trhough a STOP sign to hit another car and cause the death of its driver, her high school classmate and rumored ex-sweetheart.
Comment by Lora — October 2, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
She hit him, and killed him, and he was her recent ex. Yeah, that was pure accident!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:58 pmNeither will commit to leaving Iraq during their term, Obama wants to invade Pakistan and Hillary’s odd demeanor is scaring people.
Be sure to punch that chad cleanly.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
well, a lie and some projection, very good, Repuke scum. Obama never said anything about invading Pakistan, so link, up, liar, and Hillary’s demeanor, that of a strong, winning woman, is certainly scaring the stuffing out of the right wing cowards! I’m loving it! Nothing she could do when elected could begin to compare to the massive failures of Bush/Cheney and their arms-dealing friends and terrorist handholding mates.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:59 pmMaybe, but we will never know since Mary Jo died and no one knew a thing about the incident until the next day.
And why didnt Cheney talk to the Trooper after shooting a laywer in the face?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:59 pmMaybe, but we will never know since Mary Jo died and no one knew a thing about the incident until the next day. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
And in this country you are innocent until proven guilty, and when you serve your crime you are done. Get over it, the courts already dealt with this, and your smear is boring!
This is merely an example debate we are having, that providing bad examples in our political leadership is an exercise in bipartisanship.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
No, it’s a case of you smearing other people, because suddenly the world is focused on what lying, deceitful and hateful hypocrites you are. And you have so few responses, you have to drag something up from 17 years ago that’s unrelated, irrelevant, and just shows how full of hate, bile and useless irrational emotions you are full of.
No wonder you republicans hate the military personnel exercising their free speech – fascist!
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:01 pmThe only thing Republicans hate more than free speech, is a soldier exercising free speech!
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:02 pmThis is merely an example debate we are having, that providing bad examples in our political leadership is an exercise in bipartisanship.
Comment by Caring Liberal
No, its the only way trolls know how to debate because they mimick the crowing craniums who exercise nothing but bipartisanship and they apply their false reality thru projectionism, lemming groupthink, unto others. Such as with the idiotic Godless Liberal book as an example.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:02 pmCheney has always been above the law. He doesn’t even bother with it, unlike Kennedy, who was charged and paid his debt to society. Republicans don’t care about other Americans or about America, and certainly have shown their hatred of the troops, just by their treatment of them over the past 6 years. If they put their money where their mouths are, maybe they’d have a chance, but they very obviously think the troops are just cannon fodder and pawns on their international chessboard.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:02 pmRush runs around telling people he has a truth detector in his head when it was really a head full of pain killers, and another way of excusing his projectionist rants.
BTW why didnt Limbaugh deport the drug addict, himself, like he so often opined about, uncaring Con?
Can you say hypocrite?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:05 pmW and Cheney were drinking and driving for so many decades that they were damned lucky never to have killed anyone. That’s relevant because W was a phony soldier who went AWOL when they began including a drug test as part of the flight physical. Cheney had other priorities.
BTW, is Caring Liberal that 23 year old anorexic from Redondo Beach who had her picture taken with genuine nazis?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:05 pmThe trolls are sure desperate to change the subject of the thread, which is the FACT that he smeared another Real Soldier on his show acting like the pompous ass he is.
Time to boycott his advertisers.
Anyone have a list?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:07 pmDefinition of an idiot: A person that claims to have a truth detector in their head. [aka TIN FOIL HAT]
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:10 pmMaybe, but we will never know since Mary Jo died and no one knew a thing about the incident until the next day.
This is merely an example debate we are having, that providing bad examples in our political leadership is an exercise in bipartisanship.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
That is not an example of debate. That entire approach is fundamentally flawed. You cannot prove your side is right by proving that the other side is a hypocrite, or even that the other side is wrong. You still need the facts to back you up. You still need evidence that your side is right. Ever hear the old saying, “Two wrongs do not make a right?” That concept is wholly applicable in debate.
It certainly isn’t an example of bipartisanship, either. It is an example of one-downsmanship(?). Bipartisan efforts require both parties to contribute, offer input, and come to a joint conclusion. Pointing out one another’s flaws or mistakes isn’t bipartisanship in any way, shape or form.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:10 pmIgnore the freak 28%er trolls and lets start discussing what the Grass Roots need to do about this fascist pig.
I say again, hit them in their pockets, boycott his supporters.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:10 pm#168, Lora,
LOL – I remember when John Kerry made his gaff before the 2006 election, causing him, Reid and Pelosi to hide for 3 weeks until the Dems could squeak through with narrow margins. No one on TP believed that you would win either, and in the end, you didn’t. Dems have given the Reps the best cover through this war, causing Hill’reh to really have to sweat an otherwise simple task of winning in 2008. Even if Hill’reh pulls it off, the Congress will move back to Rep control.
I do have an MSEE from Stanford, and several patents to my name, which you can look up.
I wish I could LOL, too, but you’re so guillible that it isn’t even funny. The myth of Pelosi disappearing before the election has been debunked several times over, but you only know how to repeat the favorite right wing talking points.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:11 pmI don’t know what you mean by “No one on TP believed that you would win either,” as I wasn’t running for office.
I think someone who is a bonafide Stanford U. graduate would know that it is not an Ivy League school. Also, I have googled your name in the past and also today but can find no reference to your so-called patents, only to your quotes on blogs like this. Probably the only patent you have is for irrelevance.
U.S. Pat. No. 3,967,276 describes an antenna structure (the so called “Goubau” antenna)
Jasons ‘Patent’
Hey is that what Rush has in his head Jason a Goubau?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:11 pmRush Limbaugh gets $1/4 Billion over 10 years from General Electric (NBC) for saying things that are beneficial to General Electric. Doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to figure it out.
One reporter said she had dinner at a Manhattan restaurant with him when he said Clinton did not understand the average American. The dinner for two came to $450. His chauffeured limosine waited to take him back to his penthouse apartment.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:11 pmWho owns the military? We the people. Who pays for soldiers salaries and health care and buys all the hardware? We the people collectively. It is, by definition, the largest Socialist institution in our country. Think about it. To support the military is, by definition, left wing. No wonder the right wingers treat wounded soldiers, veterans and Gold Star mothers with such disrespect.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:12 pm“Media Matters†as a viable “media watchdog groupâ€, and expose it as the fraudulent spin operation it really is.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Umm, I guess you forgot that FOX news sued for and won the right to lie to its viewers?
Thats not spin, thats just outright lies.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:14 pmRush is right – you lied to this guy, got him riled up and wheeled him into the media spotlight – you have no shame.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Are you saying that this guy was not capable of judging for himself what Rush said? How did the “liberals” lie to him? Doesn’t this vet have the right to stand up for something he believes in?
Talking about “having no shame”, what about Rush Limbaugh’s horrifying belittlement of Michael J. Fox and his disability? Now that was the poster child for “having no shame”.
Right Wing Loon Jason has nothing to add to the conversation but Right Wing Loon talking points. I’m disappointed in you Jason. Can’t you do better?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:15 pm33% er’s and climbing, as the Iraq situation improves day by day.
Petraeus admitted to increased attacks due to Ramadan. Where you been? And Afghanistan is going oh so great, right?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:17 pmIsn’t it clear that Rush is NOT calling everyone against the war “phony soldiers?†Just the actual, you know, “phony soldiers.â€
Comment by Rory
Right Wing Loon Rory (aka Jake) thinks that Rush Limbaugh is the world’s authority on who is a phony soldier. If Rush determines you are a phony soldier, than that’s it, case closed. Rush has determined this soldier is not a “phony soldier”, he is just a poor helpless soldier who has no will of his own and is being manipulated by the “liberals”. You know, Rush, I find that even more insulting than your “phony soldier” remark, as I suspect does the soldier in the commercial.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:19 pmForget trying to argue with Jason, he doesn’t even believe in Newton’s Laws or the Theory of Relativity:
The guy’s so loosely connected to reality it’s a wonder he doesn’t float off into space.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:21 pmIf someone has a patent for a widget, it means they know about widgets, it doesn’t mean they know history, political science, sociology, international relations, etc.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:21 pmStill three times higher approval ratings than the Democrat Congress…woohoo!
Comment by O. Bigfoot
My, how behind the times you are Right Wing Loon OBigFootInMouth.
Bush 33%
Congress 29%
Republics in Congress 29%
Democrats in Congress 38%
Ding…ding…ding… sorry Right Wing Loon, you lose.
Reference:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/01/AR2007100101235.html?hpid=topnews
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:23 pmAnd Hillary might drop to a 48% disapproval before the election.
Lets hear that lovely cackle again.
Comment by Caring Liberal
Doesn’t really matter since 67% of the people in this country will vote for “Any Democrat”, even if that Democrat is Hillary.
Ding….ding…..ding…..sorry Right Wing Loon Caring Liberal, you lose.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:26 pmActually bigfoot I took 115 different polls over the last year and the approval rating averages 32% percent for \/\/.
“What is your preference for the outcome of next year’s congressional elections: a Congress controlled by Republicans or a Congress controlled by Democrats? Democrats 47% Republicans 35%
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:27 pmhttp://www.pollingreport.com/cong2008.htm
You know, Rush, I find that even more insulting than your “phony soldier†remark, as I suspect does the soldier in the commercial.
Comment by bilbobaggins — October 2, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
Just like his smear of Michael J Fox. Only the smearing of veterans, war wounded, and active combat soldiers is so far over the line, the trolls scrambling to defend this lowlife is stinking up this place bad.
And pissing me off royally.
I’m off for the night, too pissed. Before I post something to get me banned.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:29 pmGonna chill, play the guitar and write a song about these lowlife slugs.
And not much newsworthy coming out of Afghanistan lately, is there?
Comment by O. Bigfoot
“Afghanistan Suicide Bomb Adds to Rising Death Toll”
http://voanews.com/english/2007-10-02-voa14.cfm
Nope, not much newsworthy coming out of Afghanistan lately.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:29 pm27% approve of Bush’s funding proposal for Iraq & Afghanistan.
66% think it should be less (including 43% of Republicans).
WashPost/ABC poll today.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:30 pmAnd not much newsworthy coming out of Afghanistan lately, is there?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 2, 2007 @ 11:25 pm
Not during Petraeus lecture either..gee wonder why?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:30 pmBTW, the map Jason was referring to above was a map of the blogosphere. It had nothing to do with gravity. LOL!
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:30 pmhttp://icasualties.org/oif/
I think you should check the figures Bigfoot, the averages have changed little over the last few years.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 pmWhere you been? Casualities down. Iraq Military improving and stepping up. The Iraqi Police Force being cleaned up. Just have to get the Iraqi Government to re-establish it’s authority, which will come.
Otherwise, the U.S. must install it’s own interim military government, which I am all for if Malaki doesn’t get a handle on things soon.
And not much newsworthy coming out of Afghanistan lately, is there?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 2, 2007 @ 11:25 pm
going for the wholesale lies, bigfoot? seeing how many repuke lies you can fit into a single post? when are you enlisting, by the way?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 pmComment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 11:31 pm
The last time I quoted Zogby I got attacked by you cons for quoting an Arab.
55% of Americans think congress is not doing enough to end the war. That is why their rating is so low. They are not giving us universal healthcare, etc. etc. They are not doing what they were elected to do. The people are to the left of Democratic leaders in congress.
I never got an answer. Are you the 23 year old anorexic from Redondo Beach who has her picture taken with genuine Nazis?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 pmZogby: As of September 19th, Congress rated an 11% disapproval, a new low reached after the July number of 14%.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 11:31 pm
Zogby? Bwahahahahahahaha!
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:37 pmThe rightwing Washington Post is not much of a measure, either, but Zogby? How low do trolls have to stoop?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:38 pmThankfully, along with the misrepresentation of Bill O’Reilly’s comments a week or so ago, this will mean the end of the charade of Hillary Clinton’s “Media Matters†as a viable “media watchdog groupâ€, and expose it as the fraudulent spin operation it really is.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Right Wing Loon OBigFootInMouth who is incapable of independent thought. He plugs into his Borg connection to the RNC mother and downloads the most recent talking point. He listens to Rush Lindbaugh’s edited version of the show when he called the soldiers “phony” and swears that it is the truth. It doesn’t matter that Media Matters has the unedited version that plainly shows that Rush was talking about soldiers (plural) who are against the war. Rush edited out the 1 minute 30 second gap between his gaff and when he started making his excuse that he was talking about one particular soldier, not soldiers (plural).
Right Wing Loon OBigFootInMouth makes a very good brownshirt.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:38 pmOf course, if they change the definition of what a casualty is—–they can make the casualty figures go down. They made the figures in Vietnam anything they pleased for twenty years.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:38 pmf Hillary didnt have her famous last name, she would be doing the spoiler tango with Kucinich at the bottom of the ‘also-ran’ heap.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
well, it’s true that Bush did lose both of his “elections”, even with the famous name. Hillary will crush you fools, crush you to dust.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:39 pmWho owns the military? We the people. Who pays for soldiers salaries and health care and buys all the hardware? We the people collectively. It is, by definition, the largest Socialist institution in our country. Think about it. To support the military is, by definition, left wing. No wonder the right wingers treat wounded soldiers, veterans and Gold Star mothers with such disrespect.
Comment by Snowball — October 2, 2007 @ 11:12 pm
That is a pretty clever take. It’s made all the funnier by way of it being true. :)
No wonder the current Republican party (controlled by corporatists who truly ARE fascist; they want corporate-controlled States) wants to privatize the military so fervently! The fact that they don’t have any more a say in the goings-on in the military as Joe Sixpack, (or Those Damed Hippies!, or “Leeeeroy Jenkins!”-screaming Gamers, anyone who isn’t White *gasp*, or even more unforgivably, anyone who isn’t RICH…”ohhh, I’ve got a touch of the vapors!” *faint dramatically*), drives them f*cking nuts. Why, those…types…shouldn’t have such responsibility, after all. They might hurt themselves, poor, deluded masses.
Those people are Straussians, who genuinely believe in the “noble lie”. The concept of the “noble lie” is anathema to all that is the essence of the United States of America. The “noble lie” is not only not supported by the Constitution, but rather, that historic document specifically limits such concentrations of power by design.
Your observation actually does give an insight in to how some in that group think. Perhaps they have that very kind of conversation, discussing the audacity of allowing such an important, massive undertaking as our national defense to be driven by the People, rather than by the Market.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:41 pmOdd….I type “coward†into Google and I get a link to DNC.org
Ok, maybe not so odd.
Comment by Caring Liberal
Then try googling “failure,” PHONY Liberal, and you will get a link to your true hero, Dumbya Bush.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:41 pmYou mean the real stories about how things are improving lately? They are coming out daily. Do some research and quit being so negative.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Right Wing Loon OBigFootInMouth somehow has access to news outlets that report news no one else gets. This is the fantasy news station where Iraq is coming up roses.
Funny thing, though, no one else can get access to this news outlet. Is there some membership criteria we have to meet to get this rosy news? It certainly is not in the news outlets I read.
Please, Right Wing Loon, link to this rosy news that says things are coming up roses in Iraq. I’m sure we would all like to see it.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:41 pmThe trolls believe Iraq is improving.
Maybe they should vacation there.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — October 2, 2007 @ 11:40 pm
The trolls are in the bottom third of the class BECAUSE they believe the lies of the establishment arms-dealing traitors ruining the USA. Without the stupididty of the average wingnut, these clowns would be living in double-wides, and beating their wives.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:42 pmStill laughing, or are you going to cherry pick the results?
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 11:40 pm
What are you going on about? Your numbers are the lowest in history, for the longest period. Talk about your cherry-picking…
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:43 pmYou gotta get a life, Wayne, and quit letting politics eat up your life…I’m just sayin’….
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 2, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
You’re just sayin’, you, the enabler of evil, the defender or treason? Politics ate your sould and spt it out into the gutter. You make Hitler’s followers look smart.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:45 pmZogby: As of September 19th, Congress rated an 11% disapproval, a new low reached after the July number of 14%.
Comment by Caring Liberal
And if Zogby cared to break it down like the poll I quoted did, I’m sure you would find the same results. And that is people rate the Republicans in Congress much lower than the Democrats. They would also find out that the reason why people in this country rate congress so low is because they are furious that Congress hasn’t done something about getting us out of Iraq. Since the Republicans are the ones blocking any move that the Democrats take to get us out of Iraq, the nations anger is mostly towards the Republicans for being obstructionists.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:48 pmxactly, but here is a newsflash for you: Bush wont be running next year, Hillary will.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
And she will crush your pigmies into kindling. And, in spite of the shitstorm that Bushco has caused, she will take this country into the right direction again, after these lost years. thsi liberal country will once again be on top of the world, not mired in the world’s gutter, hated and despised as it now is. And she will run against Bush, as will Dems for years, if not decades, because it is a sure win. The name Goerge bush will be akin to Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, and all the other feckless, violent, sociopathic losers of history. Bush isn’t running, but he will be the man to beat for a long time, and he will be beaten again and again. That will be his only positive achievement, his destruction of the evil right wing, sick fascists who have undertaken to screw everybody who loves this country.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:49 pmWhy wont the woman ever wear a skirt?
Comment by Caring Liberal
What’s it to you. Have you ever worn a skirt? Rudy has. He looked quite fetching. Perhaps Hillary finds pants much more comfortable than skirts. Does your wife have to walk 10 paces behind you when you are in public?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:49 pmYou mean the real stories about how things are improving lately? They are coming out daily. Do some research and quit being so negative.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 2, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
Who’s reporting them? Patreaus? Certainly not Fox News, the mouthpiece of the Bush administration. Where are all the good news stories? Can you point to them in the archives for us?
Next you’ll tell us that the surge is working because the Iraqi government can’t get its act together.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:50 pmThe challenge to Rush from Jon Soltz and Brian McGough still stands. They both offered to go on Limbaugh’s show any day and any time so that Rushie can tell them to their face that they are “phony soldiers.”
Each day I wonder how our national credibility can dip any lower. Rush’s despicable comparison of Brian McGough to a suicide bomber might just take the cake. Then we have Bush supporters on this link who agree with this nastiness in their gutter level comments about our veterans.
That would be you, Jason Hendler. You have no class.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:50 pmHard to say, though I was thinking about Hillary’s legs and pondering the same thing.
Why wont the woman ever wear a skirt?
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 11:47 pm
But you were thinking of Hillary’s legs. right? How high-minded of you, another pig, like Rush.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:50 pmOk, I googled “failure†and that too gave only a link to DNC.org
Maybe you need to give your ‘puter a good kick and see if that helps…or tap on the monitor.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 11:50 pm
You might try that yourself, I got Bush.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:51 pmhttp://icasualties.org/oif/US_chart.aspx
Fatalities Iraq
Jan to sep 2007 [9 months]= 804
Jan to dec 2004 [12 months] = 849
Why wont the woman ever wear a skirt?
Comment by Caring Liberal
Because Rudy [who likes to be called Rudia in drag] stole it?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:51 pmYa see, if Hillary is hovering around 50% it means there are a lot of dems who arent exactly enamored with her either. Thats not a number you want to drag with you to the election, not that she wont try.
Comment by Caring Liberal
None of your Repubs are near 50%. Must mean the Repubs aren’t enamored of any of their candidates.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:52 pmHillary would be my last choice among the Dems, but if you go here:
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm
you will see she wins in every named (not generic) matchup against every named Republican.
Yes, her disapprovals are about 48%. But your hero’s is at 64%. That is really horrible.
Still waiting for my answer.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:52 pmZogby: As of September 19th, Congress rated an 11% disapproval, a new low reached after the July number of 14%.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 11:31 pm
You forgot to mention that Democrats in Congress still poll higher than the President, and Republican Congressmen still lower than Bush. This whole Rush affair showing what hypocrites and cowards you are certainly gonna make your numbers worse!
Thanks guys, you really are doing a gangbuster job at suiciding the GOP!
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:53 pmJust keep watching the dem houses as they waste their time whining about a private citizen from the safety of their protected-speech environs.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
who’s a private citizen? Not Limbaugh, he’s a public figure. get your facts straight.
as if.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:54 pmOr maybe it was Republican Sam Walls that stole her dress uncaring con?
Sammy Girly Man Republican
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:54 pmJust keep watching the dem houses as they waste their time whining about a private citizen from the safety of their protected-speech environs.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
Just watch as people are sickened that the GOP will whine at private Dem Citizen’s free speech, but are such cowardly hypocrites they won’t condemn their own!
Wah, Wah, cowardly little GOP’ers…
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:54 pmThe challenge to Rush from Jon Soltz and Brian McGough still stands. They both offered to go on Limbaugh’s show any day and any time so that Rushie can tell them to their face that they are “phony soldiers.â€
Along with this, he’s getting his panties in a wad because Harry Reid won’t drop all his duties as the Senate Majority Leader and hop on a plane to fly to where Rush is to appear on his show.
Rush is a coward. If he wasn’t, he would take Stolz and McGough up on their offer. Rush knows darn well that Jon Stolz will cream him.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:55 pmYou just keep believin’ that, Lefty…whatever floats yer’ boat! I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 2, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
Then you can’t possibly be a real republican, you must be a phony republican, as real republicans condemn free speech when liberals exercise it – like Caring Cowardly Phony Liberal for instance!
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:55 pmbut I will defend your right to say it!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 2, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
You won’t defend anything, you rank coward. that’s the problem, bigmouth, none of you chickenhawks will help little Georgie Sociopath steal the nasty Arabs’ oil! that’s why we’ve lost in iraq and afghanistan, because Republicans will only talk about defending the country, not actually do it. remember 9/11, when Bush failed to defend the PENTAGON?
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:56 pmJust keep watching the repub house as they wasted their time whining about an ad in the newspaper from the safety of their protected-speech environs.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
There Right Wing Loon Caring Liberal, I fixed it for you.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:57 pmComment by bilbobaggins — October 2, 2007
Rush has to screen his calls so someone wont get thru and tell the truth, of course he wont ever have them on his show no matter how much he claims he does.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:58 pmYou just keep believin’ that, Lefty…whatever floats yer’ boat! I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it!
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Oh really? Did Right Wing Loon OBigFootInMouth defend moveon.org’s right to ask a question of the public (did Betrayus Betray Us)? Or is your defending rights to free speech selective like most other Right Wing Loons?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:00 amWell, here we are, over 6 years later, and the terrorists are still well ahead on points. Osama stil making campaign vids for Republicans, soldiers still dying in the sand, terrorists still successfully attacked on 9/11, and nothing has been done about it, except to kill 3800 more Americans, and a million innocent Iraqis. Good job, Bushies! Worst administration in American history, by any and all measures.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:01 amI love ya bilbo, you remind me every day why the left is going to lose it all next year. Cheers me up! :-)
Comment by Caring Liberal
Not with numbers like this. Read it and weep sucker:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/01/AR2007100101235.html?hpid=topnews
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:01 amAnd THAT is why the dems are going to get hit in 2008.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:01 am
why, because republicans are lousy on national defense? you’re not too swift, are you? Dems will sweep in all races, the White House will be theirs, and they wil hold majorities in Congress that will reduce the repigs to manservants. The fact that your side lost these illegal, immoral, unnecessary exercises in dick-waving and mass-murder is not lost on 70% of America, just you pitiful handful of fools who hate the troops and hate our freedoms.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:04 amIf they repeated what they said on Rush’s show, as he has invited them to do, they would be liable for what they say, which is why they wont appear on his show.
Comment by Caring Liberal
You’re right. Reid and Harkin are scared of big bad Rush Limbaugh. They are shaking in their boots at the prospect that he might sue him for telling the truth. It would be fun, though, to see the spectacle. I’d bet it will come out as well as Bill O’Reilly came out suing Al Franken.
Do you really expect Harry Reid to drop his senatorial duties and jump on a plane to come face to face with Doughbag Linbaugh? Why doesn’t Rush offer to come to Washington and have it out in Reid’s territory.
Also, why is Rush so scared of Jon Stoltz?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:07 amReid could just make a simple phone call as do 99% of the guests that Rush talks to.
Reid has time to pontificate on the senate floor for twenty five minutes, you would think he could spare ten to do a quick phone-chat with Rush.
Comment by Caring Liberal
So tell us Right Wing Loon Caring Liberal, why won’t Rush agree to have Jon Stoltz and the solder he slandered today on his show? What is he afraid of?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:08 amThe rest of us will pray for you.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 2, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
F*ck your worthless prayers, you cowardly hypocrite. Nobody listens to them. You’re in the tiny minority, the luckless, foolish, fearful cowards who never had a daddy to hide behind. Now the fake Connecticut cowboy, afraid of horses, handholder of terrorists, comes along, and you can’t wait to get on your knees and beg him to piss all over you, so you’ll feel worthy. we;;, you’re not worthy. You’re just another enabler of a murderer.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:09 amSounds like either you’ve missed your meds, or you need to go get some sleep…your getting delusional, man!
Comment by O. Bigfoot
No one could possibly match your delusions OBigFootInMouth. You actually think that the Republicans are going to win in 2008. Newsflash, even the Republicans don’t think they are going to win in 2008.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:09 amReid has time to pontificate on the senate floor for twenty five minutes, you would think he could spare ten to do a quick phone-chat with Rush.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:06 am
well, we know Bush takes time out to meet with terrorists, but Reid doesn’t have to sink that low.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:10 amCome on Caring Liberal, we are all waiting. Tell us why Rush won’t allow Jon Stoltz and the soldier he slandered today on his show. What is he afraid of?
Cat got your tongue? Or do you not have an answer?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 amThe GOP has left the building…
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 am
Dems are smart to ignore the loony, terrorist-supporting traitors of FOX and Rush. The likes of O’Lielly and Limpballs don’t deserve the company of true patriots, and are rarely seen with true patriots. Coincidence? I think not.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 amI wonder what CodePink and MoveOn will do after the first nominee debates when the dem candidate doesnt unequivocably state that their first order of business would be to pull the troops out?
Hoo weee, this is going to be fun!
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:11 am
We’ve already seen your fantasy behavior, it was when Bush dropped the attack on gay marriage in the constitution, and it was your own image in the mirror. But the projection was ‘cute’, if a little disturbing…
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:13 amNo, Reid arranged for Pelosi to meet with the terrorists. Must have been a coin flip or something and he lost.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:13 am
It’s remarks like this that cause people to not take your party seriously.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:14 amYou must have missed the part where the leading dem contenders wouldnt agree to removing the troops from the “illegal, immoral, unnecessary exercises in dick-waving and mass-murder†happening in
Comment by Caring Liberal
Typical Right Wing Loon interpretation of what a Democrat says. The leading Democratic contenders simply said that they could not guarantee to have ALL troops out of Iraq by the end of their first term. All said that they would remove combat troops immediately and only leave the troops necessary to protect the Americans remaining in Iraq.
Boy I would love to buy you all a seat in a Critical Thinking class. You all certainly need it.
Anyway, going to answer my question about Rush and Stoltz, or are going to continue to avoid answering it?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 amFirst MoveOn, and now Media Matters. Sounds like the voices of moderation have finished off two left wing propaganda outfits in as many months! Big MO!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:12 am
Defending Rush, while complaining about propaganda and lack of moderation – ah the irony!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 amSounds like either you’ve missed your meds, or you need to go get some sleep…your getting delusional, man!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:07 am
Ah the latest Republican disease, talking to themselves, while projecting. Now that’s funny!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:16 amI wonder what CodePink and MoveOn will do after the first nominee debates when the dem candidate doesnt unequivocably state that their first order of business would be to pull the troops out?
Hoo weee, this is going to be fun!
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:11 am
What do you think they will do, side with the Repuke? You’re amazingly stupid for someone who figured out how to type. You’re also about to be royally snookered when the dems get control and start to pull the troops out and turn the mess around. Bush can ignore the poor set of repukes, the ones who agree (45%, by the way) that it’s time to get out, but Dems won’t be able to ignore their base. You’re in for the shellacking of your life.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:16 amHeres a question for the trolls.
Condi Rice describes Syria as a police state yet millions of Iraqis have fled to there and other neighboring countries, what does that mean when they prefer a police state to Iraq?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:18 amirst MoveOn, and now Media Matters. Sounds like the voices of moderation have finished off two left wing propaganda outfits in as many months! Big MO!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:12 am
moveon and media matters will be the engines behind the long overdue regime change in the USA. but you continue to celebrate your ignorance and delusions, it’s rather cute to see how deep denial is on your side. thanks for ‘06, by the way, a good start.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:18 amNot in the least. I denounced MoveON’s slander of a decorated U.S. General during wartime. A despicable act that finally finished MoveOn as any kind of serious political force. I forsee a name change in the future.
First MoveOn, and now Media Matters. Sounds like the voices of moderation have finished off two left wing propaganda outfits in as many months! Big MO!
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Right Wing Loon OBigFootInMouth is selective in his free speech. Typical of Right Wing Loons. Didn’t expect anything else out of you.
As far as moveon.org is concerned, they are laughing all the way to the bank. They took in over a million dollars in donations in the days after the Republican’s hissy fit. And in case you didn’t notice, Media Matters is alive and well.
I really would like to get a hold of what you are smoking. It causes you some real doozie hallucinations.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:19 amIt’s a loooooooooong ways until election time….
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:18 am
And your prospects get worse by the day! Theatrics like this week do nothing to help you, but we all thank you for your efforts and success in killing the GOP!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:20 amOnly on the issue of terrorism are Republicans at parity with Democrats.
And that is where the rubber meets the asphalt. America doesnt trust the dems with national security, the Petreaus debacle reinforced it, and they will let you know loud and clear next year.
Game over for the left, they just arent smart enough to realize it yet.
Comment by Caring Liberal
Right Wing Loon Caring Liberal – are you really that stupid. Do you know what “parity” means? It means EQUAL. That means the public, now, thinks that the Democrats and the Republicans are equally capable of handling terrorism. Considering the fact that a couple of months ago there was a 10 point gap between the Republicans and Democrats, I think that you guys are going down. That’s the direction you are headed in.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:22 amAnd that is where the rubber meets the asphalt. America doesnt trust the dems with national security, the Petreaus debacle reinforced it, and they will let you know loud and clear next year.
Game over for the left, they just arent smart enough to realize it yet.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:16 am
sorry, your man-child dropped that ball forever on 9/11. republicans have had that lie disproven completely, and will never again be connected with american security in a positive way. you couldn’t defend the f*cking PENTAGON! How inept can you get? How much more weakness can you show the world? Oh, yeah, the followup: lose Osama, Afghanistan, Iraq and the GWOT. The freakin’ Quakers have more defense cred than Republicans. what a bunch of pansies, proof being that you’re all here, instead of fighting the big, bad terrorist menace. You’re a joke, repukes, a sad, bloated, lazy joke. Around the globe, by the way. an international joke.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:22 amAnd that is where the rubber meets the asphalt. America doesnt trust the dems with national security, the Petreaus debacle reinforced it, and they will let you know loud and clear next year. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:16 am
Not true. In fact the polls all show that America not only trust the Dems more, but that they prefer the Dems across the board. You really should catch up to reality, and stop talking off of 2004 election literature! It’s not only out of date, it makes you look ridiculous! Ok, so don’t change, it’s funny to laugh at you!
Game over for the left, they just arent smart enough to realize it yet. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:16 am
First of all, it’s a democracy, not a game, despite how you inpetulant children play. As for losing, bahaha, yeah, just like 2006!!!! The delusions from the drug addled mind are funny Rush!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:23 amOk Caring Liberal, I am going to have to conclude that you are incapable of answering my question as to why Rush is afraid to allow Jon Stoltz on his show.
This proves that Rush Limbaugh is nothing other than a giant COWARD!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:24 amBlase answer with no numbers behind it, just boilerplate fluff. Wouldnt the troops left behind to protect remaining Americans be…uh…combat troops…or is the idea to leave Navy personnelmen and quartermasters behind as protection? Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:20 am
We have combat troops in Japan, yeah, that’s so much the same thing as occupying a country!!! BAHAHAA
You might want to buy a seat for yourself, maybe sign up for two sessions just in case the first doesnt stick.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:20 am
Why aren’t you there, phony soldier?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:24 amRush is a fat phony…to state the obvious. What makes me sick is Bush’s phony concern for the troops he sends to their deaths. Not to mention his phony bravado (Bring ‘em on) and that phony swagger and that phony smirk as if ….How about the phony family values crowd, hiding their own thoughts behind the pious preaching. Compassionate Conservatism total phony bullcrap. Party of fiscal responsibility, more phony claims. etc. etc.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:24 amRyan Neat, welcome back.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:24 amThat must be why so many Democrat pols were embarrassed!!! Thanks again for clearing that up!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:22 am
Those corporate shits will be out soon as well, replaced by good, liberal patriots who believe in free speech and in holding liars accountable. Betrayus is the name he earned, he’d better learn to wear it.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:25 amthey already lost the military vote they might as well lose everyone else too.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:24 am
wrong again. Dems have the military on their side; soldiers are not so stupid as to vote for their murderes.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 amI bet old John Murtha could kick Rush’s phony ass any way Rush might want to fight.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 amStrange how the far left believes they are the majority of the democrat party. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:24 am
Yeah, those darned registered voter rolls, polling and reality! Shame on them! Strange how the right believes they are the majority in spite of reality!
Advertising tie-ins between the dem candidates and MoveOn is going to kill them during the campaign; they already lost the military vote they might as well lose everyone else too.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:24 am
You wingnuts destroyed the military vote this week – but hey, why face reality! I also hate to inform you of this, but the military polling show that the majority of the military disagrees with you – but we do appreciate all of the great work you’ve done in recruiting military members to the Democratic party! Without rants like those from Rush, and posts like yours, that would never have happened!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 amRyan Neat, welcome back.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — October 3, 2007 @ 12:24 am
Thanks, good to be back!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:27 amdvertising tie-ins between the dem candidates and MoveOn is going to kill them during the campaign; they already lost the military vote they might as well lose everyone else too.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:24 am
That’s why they’re lining up, looking for moveon money. you just get more desperate every day, don’t you? get used to it, you’ll not see a repig majority again for decades.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:27 amLike I said, youre not smart enough to realize it.
The game is over for the dems: you know it, I know it.
Cheers! :-)
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:27 am
BAHAHA, put down the meth pipe!
Yeah, what I know is that the Dems have a 15% spread on you among registered voters, whereas in 2000 the percentages were even! Don’t let reality bias your bias! But you might want to cut back on the meth!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:28 am“Boy I would love to buy you all a seat in a Critical Thinking class. You all certainly need it.”
If your family doctor had been exposed in the media as a full-blown drug addict, treating your family for years while floating along on a magic carpet of prescription narcotics, would you still continue to use his services?
Why?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:29 amAdvertising tie-ins between the dem candidates and MoveOn is going to kill them during the campaign; they already lost the military vote they might as well lose everyone else too.
Comment by Caring Liberal
They lost the Military Vote?
December 29, 2007 – Military Times
For the first time, more troops disapprove of the president’s han dling of the war than approve of it. Barely one-third of service members approve of the way the president is handling the war, ac cording to the 2006 Military Times Poll.
When the military was feeling most optimistic about the war — in 2004 — 83 percent of poll re spondents thought success in Iraq was likely. This year, that number has shrunk to 50 percent.
Now keep in mind, that was December 2006. I suspect the support is much lower now. Sorry, the Democrats are not going to lose the military. They and their families have come to realize what 67% of the people in this country know about Bush, Iraq and the Republican party in general.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:29 amMoveOn and Media Matters are done as players in the mainstream political scene, they have been exposed for what they are…. and the only thing they have left is far-left kooks……like you!
But that’s ok. It keeps you folks busy while the rest of us make a difference.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:26 am
Yeah, the millions raised in the days after the brouhaha sure mark the death of moveon. man, you are really lost, bigass. really lost. North Korea is the place for you.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:30 amOk, I googled “failure†and that too gave only a link to DNC.org
Maybe you need to give your ‘puter a good kick and see if that helps…or tap on the monitor.
Comment by Caring Liberal —
The DNC isn’t even on the first of Google’s many pages for “failure,” lying Phony Liberal. And, as I still have to work on a Japanese translation, I don’t have time right now to go through all the pages. Yes, my dear computer is set to deal with languages other than just English. Maybe you ought to give yourself and/or your computer in the butt, uncaring neoCON.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:30 amPhony codpiece….not any more actually their than the phony boots or the phony ranch. Bush and the GOP virtually define phony.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:30 amShame on you for talking about Hillary’s husband that way!!!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:30 am
Oh, yes, Clinton was president on that fateful day, I keep forgetting, for some reason.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:31 amYeah, right…don’t stop believin’, Lefty! Everyone must have dreams, no matter how far-fetched. Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:26 am
Thanks for repeating your mantra, but your dreams died with George Bush! He killed them, along with the GOP!
MoveOn and Media Matters are done as players in the mainstream political scene, they have been exposed for what they are…. and the only thing they have left is far-left kooks……like you! Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:26 am
BAHAHA, far left kooks? Far left calls for the immediate seizure of all private property. The progressive values that moveon and mm stand for poll with over 60% of Americans. You’re so far right, hitler looks like a socialist Jew to you!
Moveon had the largest donation day in history after you wacks attacked them – I’m sure they thank you!
But that’s ok. It keeps you folks busy while the rest of us make a difference.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:26 am
You, make a difference? Only in helping to kill the GOP, which you are doing a fantastic job on by the way!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:31 amShame on you for talking about Hillary’s husband that way!!!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:30 am
BAHAHA, yeah, because we all know Clinton was President on 911, and he’s the one that ignore the direct warning that Bin Laden was going to attack us with commercial jets!
BAHAHA, like I said, thanks for all of your efforts to kill the GOP! Your work is appreciated!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:32 amLest we forget. Bush is getting ready to veto the 3 1/2 percent raise for our soldiers. That will go a long way to getting more military on the Republican side, don’t you think?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 amI wonder who was president on the day the PENTAGON was successfully attacked? I wonder who was president on the days after days after days that Osama wasn’t captured? I wonder which president was playing the guitar when New Orleans was drowning? I wonder which president has destroyed the Republican party?
I’ll bet they’re all the same fake cowboy.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 amI said “far left†and the “democrat partyâ€.
If youre having trouble keeping up, perhaps you should consider a tutor?
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:29 am
Far left? What, you said moveon, the progressive items on their agenda poll with over 60% of Americans. You’re saying that the majority of the US is far left?
Keeping up? oh, child, I’ve lapped you so many times your *ss has my shoe tread permanently in it!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 amWell, actually uncaring con, in 2006 U.S. Troops in Iraq: 72% Say End War.
So your thoughts on losing the military vote just dont add up.
The poll, conducted in conjunction with Le Moyne College’s Center for Peace and Global Studies, showed that 29% of the respondents, serving in various branches of the armed forces, said the U.S. should leave Iraq “immediately,†while another 22% said they should leave in the next six months. Another 21% said troops should be out between six and 12 months, while 23% said they should stay “as long as they are needed.â€
Rush has screwed up by claiming these troops are phonys even if congressional Republicans wont criticize Rush, or Hunt, for their remarks.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 amYeah, what I know is that the Dems have a 15% spread on you among registered voters, whereas in 2000 the percentages were even! Don’t let reality bias your bias! But you might want to cut back on the meth!
Comment by Ryan Neat — October 3, 2007 @ 12:28 am
Exactly right! And with the huge disparity in money raised, it shows how many true Conservatives have decided enough is enough: It will take the Dems to staunch the spending and bring back some adult supervision in this government and restore our military to where it was before BushCo scarificed it for his Ego/Oil war and a NeoCon push to hijack the Middle East.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:35 am“BAHAHA, like I said, thanks for all of your efforts to kill the GOP! Your work is appreciated!”
Comment by Ryan Neat
Especially by the Libertarians.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:36 amYeah, you guys are really popular with the troops – of Al Qaeda maybe!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:37 am
Exactly right! And with the huge disparity in money raised, it shows how many true Conservatives have decided enough is enough.
And don’t forget the article in the Wall Street Journal today saying that the right is losing Business supporters too. Boy, that must have really hurt for them to have to print that.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:38 amYup, and all the exit polls pointed to Kerry being the winner after a summer of everyone in sight proclaiming that the Iraq war was going to bury Bush under a landslide. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:36 am
Yeah, so did the election results in Ohio, which is why 2 election officials were convicted and went to prison after the election. And that was all in 2004 when the GOP and the Dems had roughly the same number of registered voters. Now, there’s a 15% advantage for the Dems, as 2006 already showed.
Its why we actually play the Superbowl and have a presidential election.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:36 am
You compare elections to ‘games’? No wonder you’re such a loser.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:39 amThis guy is now under the microscope. Once again you stupid liberals have run with his story without verifying his background. Macbeth, Beauchamp again? Let’s wait and see! We will find out!
Comment by Michael
Oh I see. We’ll find out that he wasn’t really in the military. He wasn’t really blown up by a suicide bomber and he doesn’t really have traumatic brain injuries.
In your dreams asshat.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:40 amThis guy is now under the microscope. Once again you stupid liberals have run with his story without verifying his background. Macbeth, Beauchamp again? Let’s wait and see! We will find out!
Comment by Michael — October 3, 2007 @ 12:38 am
You mean like the GOP soldier that turned out to be a Gay Porn Star?
Or the one that kept complaining everyone was spitting on him, even though the video recordings showed he was a raving lunatic and liar?
Yeah, sure…
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:40 amIt’s easy for folks to answer a poll now. Hell, I screw with phone polls all the time…especially the ones from the Democrat Party. It’s far different when the decision actually has impact.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:37 am
Exactly so, and you will lose in a historic landslide. America will be the winner this time, not war criminals and profiteers. Of course you screw with phone polls, you’re a born liar, a coward, and a cheap repig whore. And you’re in the tine minority, thank Christ.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:41 amWrong, bilbo. With Petraeus at the helm, the military is solidly behind the Republicans (and with bumblers like Murtha, Reid, Pelosi and Kerry wagging their pie holes all the time, there was little doubt they would ever have pulled the lever for Democrats).
Yes, OBigFootInMouth, all those polls are wrong. Betrayus has pulled off a miracle. He has somehow convinced all those soldiers that it is worth their while to stay in Iraq and get blown up just so we can continue to occupy a country that doesn’t want you there.
Man, you are seriously delusional. Does it hurt?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:43 amWrong, bilbo. With Petraeus at the helm, the military is solidly behind the Republicans (and with bumblers like Murtha, Reid, Pelosi and Kerry wagging their pie holes all the time, there was little doubt they would ever have pulled the lever for Democrats). Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:37 am
Yeah, just ignore the polls, and the soldiers, believe, believe, believe, and clink those red slippers dorothy!
Wait until they have to make the decision between Hillary and……anyone… Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:37 am
You mean the decision that shows any of the Dem candidates kick any of the GOP candidates to the curb. Sure.
Remember son, just because you’re a sexist, racist pig, doesn’t mean it’s an american value, it means you’re an embarrassment, that’s all.
Bill Clinton never got the majority of the military vote, Hillary will do worse. Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:37 am
Yet he easily trashed his opponents. Don’t be so sure by the way, Hill is way more of a military man than Guli is ;)
It’s easy for folks to answer a poll now. Hell, I screw with phone polls all the time…especially the ones from the Democrat Party. It’s far different when the decision actually has impact.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:37 am
They take p*ckers like you into account – or didn’t you know that. We call you the ‘margin of error’… Mostly we just call you the error…
I’m sure you fake registered as a Democrat as well, just to trip up the system? Hehe, poor delusional sap!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:44 amYou mean like the GOP soldier that turned out to be a Gay Porn Star?
Or the one that kept complaining everyone was spitting on him, even though the video recordings showed he was a raving lunatic and liar?
Yeah, sure…
Comment by Ryan Neat — October 3, 2007 @ 12:40 am
maybe they can get Jeff Gannon to do the expose’. Since he is such a great Fluffer, er, I mean reporter. Might even win himself the Pull-it zer Prize!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:44 amOne of the biggest promises made by George W. Bush as a candidate – no more nation-building – has turned out to be his biggest lie as president.
http://www.antiwar.com/sperry/?articleid=9800
In the final weeks of the 2000 campaign, Bush slammed the Clinton administration for doing exactly what he’s doing now, only worse. He warned voters his opponent Al Gore would turn more U.S. soldiers into “nation-builders” and “peacekeepers.” Bush pledged to exercise “judicious use of our military.”
Can you say Hypocrite YET Big (O)?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:45 amOh!!! Thanks for ’splaining it to me!!! THAT must be why the ad was denounced by both Democrats and Republicans alike!!! THAT must be why Democrats said the ad went too far!!! That must be why so many Democrat pols were embarrassed!!! Thanks again for clearing that up!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:22 am
The Democrats who denounced the ad are a bunch of pussies. Not only that, you apparently confuse me with someone who gives a damn that some Dems condemned it. Arlen and Lindsey both said that Bush’s wiretapping program was illegal, but I bet you were pro warrantless wiretapping anyway.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:45 amYou are far left. You believe your far left schlock is what the majority of people who call themselves ‘democrats’ believe. You are wrong. You will find out how wrong next year.
Game over. Just accept it now and get the crying jags over with early.
Comment by Caring Liberal
Oh I get it. How could we be so stupid. All those Democrats who aren’t “far left” are going to vote for Republicans in the next election. And all those Independents who identify with the Democrats, well they too are going to vote for Republicans. How could we be so stupid. It’s right in front of our very eyes, plain as day.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:45 amIt’s either either sadly ironic (or or just plain funny as hell), that now, even the Libertarians are more credible than conservatives. This horrendous blunder by the Right’s most-revered icon signals a period of rapid decline for rightist ideology. Reagan is credited with the fall of the Soviet empire. Bush will be credited with the fall of conservatism.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:45 amDefinitely a problem keeping up. Forget the tutor, buy a full set of ‘Hooked on Phonics’© and lock yourself in the basement for a month. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:42 am
You live in a 2 dimensional world, and wonder why I thump your head…
You are far left. You believe your far left schlock is what the majority of people who call themselves ‘democrats’ believe. You are wrong. You will find out how wrong next year. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:42 am
You’re far right, that doesn’t believe in scientific polls, or democratic values.
Game over. Just accept it now and get the crying jags over with early.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:42 am
While your games may be over, the election and the real world is about to come crashing in on your game ;)
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:45 amWhy do souless Republican chicken hawks hate patriotic vets with purple hearts?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:46 amGame over. Just accept it now and get the crying jags over with early.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:42 am
Excellent projection. You should rename y8ourself “Kodak”. there isn’t a single indicator you can point to that has any republican victory even in sight, never mind close. Not a single one, except your own fantasies. I am far left, and I am happy to admit it, but I am in a minority almost as small as yours, and i don;t expect the American people to be far left. I do, however, expect them to kick your ass to the curb next year, and for years after that. Far right always loses, eventually, always. And your party has been stolen from you by the likes of despicable arms dealers like Perle, Kissinger and Cheney. If you had any brains, or balls, you’d take it back from them yourselves, but you don’t so, once again, we will have to clean up the mess you cowards run away from. As it ever was.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:46 amGame over. Just accept it now and get the crying jags over with early.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:42 am
Hendler promised us all the same thing in 2006. You losers are too funny!
He was too much of a wuss to show up on election day and take his defeat like a man, the same way you will be.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:46 amWar on terror, phony excuse to steal from the treasury of USA. GOP crooks hiding behind phony patriotism. Rush should never have brought up phony.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:47 amReally? How so?
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:46 am
Hehehe, 2008, and the death of the GOP! You are the new whigs baby!
You can’t hold the business vote (you’re down to 37% according to the WSJ), and even the loon XTians are bailing on you because you’re picking a cross dressing mobster as your candidate!
I just love watching the meltdown!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:48 amWhy do souless Republican chicken hawks hate patriotic vets with purple hearts?
Comment by Xisithrus — October 3, 2007 @ 12:46 am
Cause it’s all they got. A morally bankrupt chickenhawk set of losers.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:48 amyour man rush
is a chicken
heh…
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:48 amThen on Oct. 11, in their second debate, Bush tore into Gore for deploying troops to Haiti. “I wouldn’t have sent troops to Haiti. I didn’t think it was a mission worthwhile,” he said. “It was a nation-building mission, and it – it was not very successful. It cost us billions of dollars….”
D’OHH, more conservative hypocrisy!!
Cmon Big (O) and uncaring Con, I know you can see the waffling hypocrisy here!
Say it, I know your thinking it, SAY IT!!
GIMME a H, a Y, a P, a O, a C, a R, a I, a S, a Y!!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:49 amNo, I was just trying to make as simple a comparison as possible for people like you. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:46 am
Oh, you were trying to THINK, don’t bother, you don’t have the capacity child.
If you ask nicely, ryan might make room in his basement study for you. Hooked on Phonics could be a team effort for you lasses!
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:46 am
Hehehe, I just love the projection! Poor little child. Who was it that beat you as a child? Mommy, Daddy? The other boys?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:49 amWhy do souless Republican chicken hawks hate patriotic vets with purple hearts?
Comment by Xisithrus — October 3, 2007 @ 12:46 am
Because they are phony Americans.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:50 amComment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:48 am
And Rice said that Bush did at least as much as Clinton did to track terrorists, which apparently means Bush didn’t do a damn thing.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:50 amComment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007
Would Jesus be a hypocrite uncaring con?
No!! So why are you?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:50 amWith presumed nominee Hillary chugging along at around 50% disapproval, that would certainly seem the case, or not vote at all. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:49 am
She’s doing better in the polls than Kerry or Bush did against any of your Cross Dressing, Wife dumping, cult following loser GOP crowd.
Game over. Sing it with me! Everyone join in!
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:49 am
Your game is over child, but sing whatever song you need to ride out that meth high.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:50 amOne of the biggest promises made by George W. Bush as a candidate – no more nation-building – has turned out to be his biggest lie as president…
What lie? He said he was against nation-building. He still is. Nation-destroying, that’s his specialty.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:52 amWe’ll see! You dopes used Macbeth and Beauchamp as your posterboys and were embarrassed, so it doesn’t surprise me that you accept everything he says carte blanch without checking it out. Comment by Michael — October 3, 2007 @ 12:48 am
They spoke for themselves, as individuals exercising their free speech. We liberals allow that, we know you hate it Ann.
You will be embarrassed once again. But I’m wondering, why don’t you liberals learn from your incredible mistakes?
Comment by Michael — October 3, 2007 @ 12:48 am
Hehe, the wanker defending rush is telling others they’re going to be embarrassed – priceless! Clearly you can’t be embarrassed, as you have no values, Ann.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:52 amWe’ll see! You dopes used Macbeth and Beauchamp as your posterboys and were embarrassed, so it doesn’t surprise me that you accept everything he says carte blanch without checking it out. You will be embarrassed once again. But I’m wondering, why don’t you liberals learn from your incredible mistakes? Michael
Care to back that up with proof asshat? My bet is that you can’t. Actually, I don’t believe you have ever backed up anything you said with proof. The Democrats had never even heard of this MacBeth guy until Rush brought him up.
Why not make it a first Right Wing Loon Michael. Show us some proof that the democrats used Macbeth and Beauchamp as your posterboys.
Put up or shut up.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:53 amYou cant even back up your claim, you dont even have any stats to do so.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:52 am
Yep, already did, and cited the sources. Catch up, son.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:53 amBeside, ole’ Billy boy was too busy hiding all of his girlfriends from his wife to worry about anything petty like mere national security.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:48 am
And that excuses George’s massive failures how, exactly? Bin Laden didn’t attack on Clinton’s watch, knowing full well he would be stopped, and you’ll note that the terrorists trained under the watchful eyes of Republican airport owners and flight school owners, who somehow failed to let the DOJ know what was up. Yeah, blame Clinton for Republican laziness, malfeasance and treason. Nobody’s buying, except the unhinged, treasonous, troop-hating rightards. On, and Clinton’s still above 60% approval.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:53 am“But you still havent explained why we will lose next year.”
The only candidate republicans seem to agree on is “none of the above.”
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:53 amyour posterboys should be “our posterboys”
Anyone want to take bets on Michael not being able to back up his allegations?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:54 amWe don’t? The liberals do? Why? Because you want to raise taxes?
Because you want to raise their taxes? Because you want to regulate them? You really think that business supports tax and spend communists like you democrats?
Comment by Michael — October 3, 2007 @ 12:52 am
Lets see, Bush increases the taxes on the middle class, and spends like a drunken sailor, after almost a decade of Dem. fiscal responsibility. And this is your insult Ann? BHAAHA, now that’s funny! Psychotic projection, but FUNNY!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:54 amWe don’t? The liberals do? Why? Because you want to raise taxes? Because you want to raise their taxes? Because you want to regulate them? You really think that business supports tax and spend communists like you democrats?
Comment by Michael — October 3, 2007 @ 12:52 am
They certainly do over steal and spend fascists. that’s just the way it goes, LOSER!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:54 am“And I don’t think America is for that either. I think America wants judicious use of our military.” -GWB
Dayum uncaring con, you voted for this guy who did just what he said he wouldn’t.
Go Team Hypocrite!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:55 amPuss Gut Limbaugh should strap on a suicide belt and take out a pile of dittoheads….The world would be a better place.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:55 amGeez, I guess those meds havn’t kicked in yet? And you are thanking Christ? For what? Our prayers? Don’t worry, we’ll still pray for you, Lefty. You appear to need it.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:53 am
The meds haven’t kicked in? That would explain the ramblings, and incessant crap you post.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:55 amNow thats just silly.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:55 am
Your abusive childhood was silly? Well, that explains your adult behavior, you haven’t come to terms with it yet. Let me guess, one was an alcoholic? Or maybe both?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 amDon’t worry, we’ll still pray for you, Lefty. You appear to need it.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 12:53 am
Your prayers aren’t helping you or anybody else. Nobody listens to losers and fools like you, not even your imaginary friend in the sky. i just need my country back, pried away from the scum who hate it and are bent on destroying all that is good about it, and that is about to happen, so I have no need of your useless chanting. You’re such a tool.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 amReally? How so?
Comment by Caring Liberal
??That?? ??you?? ??michael??
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:58 amReally? How so?
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:56 am
If you won’t help yourself, we can’t help you.
When were you first abused? Was it the priest?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:58 amReally? How so?
Really? How So?
Really? How so?
Really? How So?
Really? How so?
Really? How So?
Remind you of anyone? Jake is back!
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:58 am“But you still havent explained why we will lose next year.â€
I’ll let Bigfoot explain:
“Beside, ole’ Billy boy was too busy hiding all of his girlfriends from his wife to worry about anything petty like mere national security.”
Comment by O. Bigfoot
That’s why the repub frontrunners are all losers. “Family values” candidates usually don’t have more than one divorce, or aren’t openly cheating on their wives, like Guiliani was.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:58 amNow thats just silly.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:58 am
Yeah, that’s right. Nothing silly about preying to a guy up in the sky to save your lunatic political ‘game’?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:58 amReally? How so?
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 12:56 am
This is what it always comes down to, childish games. You’ve run out of lies, you’ve been buried by the left-leaning facts, and you’re regressing to your 8-year-old persona, not that you had far to go. tjhis is all you’re left with, and we should worry about the elections?
Rich.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:59 am??That?? ??you?? ??michael??
Comment by Xisithrus
I think it’s Jake.
michael left the building because I asked him to prove something he said. Since michael is incapable of proving anything he says, he simply slinks off into the night only to appear again another day like primortal slime.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:00 amYou liberals allow that? Even though they are lies? It’s wonderful to see what liberals accept! What an idiot you are!
Comment by Michael — October 3, 2007 @ 12:58 am
Free speech permit liars like you to post here Ann. I know, strange concept for you! Who’s the idiot, the one that comes here, posts lies, and is constantly made a fool of, or the one that lets you? Current voting demographics show exactly who the idiot is, I would give you a clue, but I know it won’t help?
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:00 amYou mean like the GOP soldier that turned out to be a Gay Porn Star?
Or the one that kept complaining everyone was spitting on him, even though the video recordings showed he was a raving lunatic and liar?
Comment by Ryan Neat — October 3, 2007 @ 12:40 am
maybe they can get Jeff Gannon to do the expose’. Since he is such a great Fluffer, er, I mean reporter. Might even win himself the Pull-it zer Prize!
Comment by upside99 — October 3, 2007 @ 12:44 am
Let’s not forget that phony journalist Jeff Gannon also advertised his gay escort services as “military stud” and claimed to be an ex-Marine, though the record shows that he never served in any branch of the military.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:00 amBeside, ole’ Billy boy was too busy hiding all of his girlfriends from his wife to worry about anything petty like mere national security.
Pay attention, doughbrain: there were 3 terrorist attacks on US soil during the Clinton years: WTC I, Olympic Park, and the OK City Fed. Bldg. Clinton’s DoJ captured, tried, and convicted the perps of all three. Oh, by the way: two of those attacks were by native-born right-wing psychopaths.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:00 amYou liberals allow that? Even though they are lies? It’s wonderful to see what liberals accept! What an idiot you are!
Comment by Michael — October 3, 2007 @ 12:58 am
what lies are those? Explain? Link? Proof?
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:01 amLet’s not forget that phony journalist Jeff Gannon also advertised his gay escort services as “military stud†and claimed to be an ex-Marine, though the record shows that he never served in any branch of the military.
Comment by Lora — October 3, 2007 @ 1:00 am
Yeah, how many times did he sleep over at the whitehouse again?
Yet another member of the Craig Whitehouse brigade! ;)
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:02 amThat would be the majority who re-elected George W. Bush, thank you!
(Still praying for you, Lefty!)
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 1:00 am
now leaving the party by the thousands, thoroughly ashamed of being conned by a deserting frat-boy coward. And Bush never won a national election.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:02 am“That would be the majority who re-elected George W. Bush, thank you!”
By the smallest margin in electoral history…
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:02 amLet’s not forget that phony journalist Jeff Gannon also advertised his gay escort services as “military stud†and claimed to be an ex-Marine, though the record shows that he never served in any branch of the military.
Comment by Lora — October 3, 2007 @ 1:00 am
Now he is serving the WH in a more “intimate” way, taking a wider stance on the pressing issues. Oh, and he uses the Back Door for his in and out visits, too.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:03 amComment by Michael — October 3, 2007 @ 12:58 am
what lies are those? Explain? Link? Proof?
Comment by Lefty Patriot
Michael is incapable of proving any of the drivel he posts here. To my knowledge he has NEVER proven a point when challenged. He either changes the subject or slinks away into the night.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:03 am(Still praying for you, Lefty!)
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 1:00 am
You must be used to being on your knees while Bush pisses all over you. Pray for yourself, you need it far more than I ever will.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:03 amThat would be the majority who re-elected George W. Bush, thank you!
(Still praying for you, Lefty!)
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 1:00 am
Now is that the same ‘majority’ of voters that elected Al Gore in 2000?
As for 2004, those same voters have heartburn and buyer’s remorse, and are ready to dump your party entirely. So for that we are thankful! You have done in 7 years what the Dems haven’t been able to do for 30 – destroy the GOP voter base!
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:03 amReally? How so?
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 1:03 am
By registering. Lapped again, poor little meth-head!
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:04 amMichael is incapable of proving any of the drivel he posts here. To my knowledge he has NEVER proven a point when challenged. He either changes the subject or slinks away into the night.
Comment by bilbobaggins — October 3, 2007 @ 1:03 am
You mean the position CL is adopting? these cowards are so predictable.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:04 amMichael in the Guise as the Cross Dressing Ann Coulter further demonstrates the GOP loathing for any soldier that isn’t of their party by smearing a war hero as a fake without evidence.
Typical anti-military haters..
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:05 amprimortal slime.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Its “primordial†not primortal.
You are correct. I am off to bed. I can hardly keep my eyes open. Keep on kicking Right Wing Loon ass guys, you’re all doing a great job. It’s been fun!
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:05 amAnd you are either merely misguided (which means there is hope for you if you listen and learn), ignorant (which means there is still hope if are willing to accept your ignorance and learn something), or stupid (in that case, there really isn’t any hope for you). Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 1:05 am
And which are you – since we all know you’re projecting.
Personally, I am praying for the first two..a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 1:05 am
Praying? Did the sky god hear you in between giving instructions to George? What did he say? A mind is a terrible thing to destroy on meth?
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:06 amYou liberals allow that? Even though they are lies? It’s wonderful to see what liberals accept! What an idiot you are!
Comment by Michael
You watch FOX news? You forget they sued for the right to lie to your idiocy?
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:08 amSpeaking from personal experience:
“Personally, I am praying for the first two..a mind is a terrible thing to waste.”
Comment by O. Bigfoot
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:09 amBush is not a conservative” and the invasion of Iraq was “anything but conservative,” William F. Buckley said
Poor stupid idiot michael trolls. So Duped and Doped.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:12 amAnd you are either merely misguided (which means there is hope for you if you listen and learn), ignorant (which means there is still hope if are willing to accept your ignorance and learn something), or stupid (in that case, there really isn’t any hope for you).
misguided? more rightard projection, you in the 25%. Ignorant? How so? You never have anything but ignorant opinions, no facts to present, nothing but lies and wishful thinking. Stupid? Not I; you, for sure. You’re a stupid little coward, a truly useless waste of space, and you enable mass-murder, including that of your wife’s children. You are as low as a human can be, which is why your prayers are useless blather, just pissing in the wind. Your mind is already wasted, and thoroughly useless. Your opinion of me is meaningless, as are your thought processes. You demonstrate the worst america has to offer, and are a prime example of the weakness that has allowed a miserable failure like Bush to steal the government for profit. Your inability to see his treason marks you as another Good German, following a psychopath down the road to failure and doom. You are the one who should listen and learn, and read some history, but it appears quite hopeless. Fortunately there are few of you left, and you will pose little danger as we take the country back from your kind.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:12 am“Goodnight clownshoe, thanks for the guffaws.”
Comment by Caring Liberal
Congratulations, on reaching such a zen-like plateau of total irrelevance. You are the Bodhi of mindless pap…
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:13 amComment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007
You didn’t fool me with your dumb, dopey questions, in fact you ignored the posts I made of what Bush said.
Once again, I win, you lose.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:13 amGoodnight clownshoe, thanks for the guffaws.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 3, 2007 @ 1:10 am
you’re sending it on to your simpleminded friends, I’m sure, as an example of your brilliance. birds of a feather.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:13 amSee, I’m really an obliging guy! You should be awestruck at my very presence!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 1:13 am
No, you’re just a sociopathic liar, twisting the facts to fit your sick narrative. I see you are indeed awestruck at my presence!
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:15 am“You should be awestruck at my very presence!”
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Your odor is more awe-inspiring.
Eau de Cheetos?
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:16 amBush, the nation builder at the expense of our troops and all he had to do was to lie to the simpletons like Michael, who believe anything.
Thank GOD I was smart enough to realize what a poor pick \/\/ was as Texas governor, and I told people WAY back then, you will be sorry for electing this guy to the oval office.
And still the fools cling to the conservative in name only
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:18 am“And still the fools cling to the conservative in name only”
Comment by Xisithrus
Well, what else can they do, after four years of scorched-earth, take-no-prisoners-unless-we-glow-stick-’em-with-over-the-top-smears synchophancy?
They’s nuked all the bridges to Bipartisanville.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:25 amThey’s nuked all the bridges to Bipartisanville.
Comment by barfly
Actually they are so far far far FAR left, it looks right to them, Bush has made them much bigger nation building liberals than Gore or Kerry every thought about being and also increased the size of government.
We must have the stupidest trolls on the planet.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:30 amThis is a moment in time that feels much like the lull before the Soviet Union fell. Every conservative principle has been repudiated, and its proponents are looking shell-shocked from the constant barrage of bad news they had been able to ignore for the previous four years.
But with the coming election, we can expect frenzied thrashing from the right as it suffers it’s death-throes. No smear will be too dastardly, nor dirty-trick too low, as they realize they are being shunted aside by America’s voters. Expect the Right’s eliminationist rhetoric to take a mob-like tone, with lots of bomb-throwing rhetoric.
How low will these guys go to stay in power?
Got a shovel?
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:45 amI’m sorry to say it again but Limbaugh was taken out of context. He brought up phony soilder Jesse Macbeth less than 2 mins after originally saying phony soilder. It’s not to hard to figure out what he meant. HE WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. READ THE WHOLE MANUSCRIPT!!!
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:56 am(crooks and liars just banned me again for posting this… those guys are supposed to be liberal democrats but they’re nothing but. bunch of commie cemsorship happy cowards if you ask me.)
http://www.ni4d.us
how many folks here have taken the 5 seconds it takes to change human governance?
how many of your friends have you gotten to do the same?
MIke Gravel is here to free you from a party dictatorship. Don’t neglect the opportunity!
Your great grandchildren will look at us in awe for our courage if we take it!
October 3rd, 2007 at 2:42 amBrian McGough, an Iraq war veteran, matches wits with the nit-wit Rush (who, even brain-destroyed by illegal drugs, is more cogent than ANY brain-dead troll posting on ThinkProgress) and WINS!
Rush – 0
Brian McGough – 1,000,000,000,000,000,000!
UNDER THE DRUG-INDUCED BRIDGE, TROLLS!
October 3rd, 2007 at 3:08 amAttention progressives: I have used the “Report Abuse” to report the Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:15 pm, in which he uses profanity to defame and denigrate those with whom he disagrees.
It is waaaaay past time for this bullying troll to be banned from the ThinkProgress.
He is convinced this thread is about HIM and his profane rantings. Please join me in using the “Report Abuse” option to show him that his rantings about “liberals” isn’t the only thing he is totally WRONG about!
Thank you.
October 3rd, 2007 at 3:34 am#364 – “Perhaps a cure for that mental disorder known as “liberalism†is right around the corner.” Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 3, 2007 @ 1:19 am
Well, the cure for conservatism is “education”. When you care enough to educate yourself, you stop letting others think for you, and you start to care about the world and thers around you.
I will pray that you can be saved from the conservatism that is rotting your brain and your soul. Jesus is a liberal! Why do you think the conservative government and rulers of his time hated him, and eventually nailed him to a cross?
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:53 amIt is obvious that the lard assed, drug addled, gas bag, has relapsed to his hillbilly heroin and should lance the boil on that fat ass….the one that kept him from ever serving in the military.
Stop wasting time on these cowards…they are nothing but thugs….loud mouth thugs….all the way up to the preznit.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:17 amOh Bigfoot. Name one thing that the conservatives have not lied about in your life time. Waiting.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:19 amRepublicans own Rush.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:24 amThey won’t condemn him.
He is their propaganda division.
In a recent poll in Wingnut Daily, the top two most respected conservatives were the obese, childless, thrice divorced drug addict Rush Limbaugh and the never married, childless advocate of political assassinations and genocide, Ann Coulter.
The state of today’s GOP.
Oh yeah, Republicans think US troops should “shut up and march”.
-GSD
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:32 amComment by Jake D.
So what? The guy is only interested in keeping the money rolling in, not the truth.
Limbaugh called soldiers in the field “phonies” and got caught trying to edit his transcripts.
And apparently Jake thinks that’s just fine.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:59 amRush Limbaugh is a phony patriot.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:59 amWhen you consider your pundits to be beyond reproach, you have officially gone down the rabbit hole.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:02 amI believe Rush is no longer worth wasting time over. He’s a bigoted windbag whose audience consists of people who are comfortable in their narrow-mindedness and don’t want to have to think for themselves. Rush fans will lap up everything he says without question, and defend him no matter how bizarre their rationale must be to do so. No Rush fan is ever going to say “Rush went too far this time.”
What IS a concern is that both left and right now seem to be mired in a contest to see who can accuse the other of the most “attacks on the troops”. This is pointless, unproductive, polarizing, and is too much like a childish playground fight. I think the end-of-recess bell has rung.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:10 amRush is important because what he does, along with FOX, is illegal.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:12 amThey propagandise for one party. And they lie when they do it.
I checked back today to see if michael ever backed up his assertion that the left used his so-called “phony soldiers” as posterboys, and guess what…. He didn’t. I don’t think I have ever seen michael back up any of the drivel he posts.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:19 amWhat’s with the count on this thread. On the opening page it says there are 545 posts, but the thread shows the count to be in the high 300’s. Did TP have a ball last night deleting posts?
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:49 amComment by Tampachessdon — October 3, 2007 @ 9:25 am
Nice “cut and paste” Right Wing Loon. What’s the matter, don’t you have anything original to say. Do you plan on pasting this rant on every thread that is posted today?
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:50 amI suggest you Lefties quit on this subject before you make Rush look like a Saint! Must we get out the transcripts of what the Left has said about our troops? And you have the cajones to even try to suggest Rush is against the men and women of the military?
To question Rush’s patriotism and deep, sincere, respect for ALL who have served and are serving, shows an ignorance of the truth about Rush. I’ve listened to him for years and he shows more respect for the troops in ONE SHOWthan the Left EVER HAS!!
Where was McGough getting his information? If McGough bothered to listen to Rush he wouldn’t be saying the things he’s saying. McGough seems to me that he either ill-informed or another character assassin put out there by the Left.
I’ve seen many organizations and famous figures ON THE RIGHT show their appreciation and even fund raise for issues of the military. Shaun Hannity, just to name one, had numerous events to raise money for scholarships for those children who had a parent killed while serving.
When do you EVER see the Left out there SUPPORTING OUR TROOPS, TALKING ABOUT THEM POSITIVELY, ENCOURAGING THEM TO THEIR SUCCEED IN THEIR MISSION(S), etc., etc…
Democrats have done nothing but BASH the military, crirticize them, call them cold-blooded killers, compare them to some of the most ruthless killers in history, and worse yet, Democrats/the Left have provided aid, comfort, and propaganda to the enemy to make our troop’s mission even MORE difficult to achieve! Democrats have been saying the war is lost practically from day one, and worse yet, they are doing it TO SCORE POLITICAL POINTS AND TO DENY A VICTORY TO THE TROOPS AND GEORGE BUSH!
Some of you may not feel that way, but the ones who lead the Democrat Party and the Left have NO USE for the military, thus they are anxious to find a “whipping boy” on the Right to TRY to point out the RIGHT doesn’t really like the military either!
You can’t support the troops and be against what they are fighting for!
October 3rd, 2007 at 11:04 amI believe Rush is no longer worth wasting time over. He’s a bigoted windbag whose audience consists of people who are comfortable in their narrow-mindedness and don’t want to have to think for themselves.
Comment by missmolly — October 3, 2007 @ 9:10 am
Oh, isn’t that rich? Coming from the side of the isle who gets their MARCHING ORDERS from MoveON(and destroy the country).org and (Left Wing)Media Matters.
Liberals can’t win with their ideas, so they must force them on people with out them knowing it. Have you ever seen a Liberal politician go out and campaign on what they really think, ie. what they are REALLY gonna do when they get into office? Of course not. Except for a few whacked out areas of the country (San Francisco to name one) Liberals loose every time.
missmolly, if rejecting behavior by the likes of San Francisco is narrowed-mindness, count me in as being a proud narrow-minded person!
Liberalism will destroy this country as we know it!
October 3rd, 2007 at 11:17 amBelieve it or not, I was a liberal back in Junior High School…then I got a job during High School, started paying taxes, started paying attention, and became a Conservative.
I’ve got decades of conservative education under my belt, and I am completely comfortable with my beliefs.
Conservatism it the epitome of thinking for, and relying upon, oneself.
Liberalism is the epitome of collective thinking and mob rule.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Great post, Bigfoot!
I like for people to understand Conservatism this way:
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime!
I think that pretty much separates us from Liberals. Liberals want you to be totally dependent upon the government (them) forever. Conservatives want everyone to be successful and have a life of independence from total government control.
Kind of sounds like what our Constitution says.
October 3rd, 2007 at 11:27 amYou’re not really offended by profanity, you’re interested in censoring those that oppose you.
Comment by CaptainMantastic
Captain, welcome to the world of Liberals…say that you’re all inclusive and tolerant but censor the ones that don’t agree with you!
October 3rd, 2007 at 11:30 amYou’re not really offended by profanity, you’re interested in censoring those that oppose you.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — October 3, 2007 @ 11:18 am
You don’t know me, just as Rush doesn’t know Brian McGough, an Iraq war veteran who received the Purple Heart.
But you and Rush are always full of bloated, bullying rants.
You say you oppose me. That is a relief, having someone with your attitudes “on my side” would worry me.
October 3rd, 2007 at 11:37 amLiberals want you to be totally dependent upon the government (them) forever.
Comment by MaverickCoast — October 3, 2007 @ 11:27 am
When I think of our government, I think of the phrase “…of the people, by the people, and for the people.” You don’t. That says more about you and Rush and the other trolls polluting this site than anything I can think of.
October 3rd, 2007 at 11:43 amYou can’t support the troops and be against what they are fighting for!
Comment by MaverickCoast — October 3, 2007 @ 11:04 am
That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. But, it is just your opinion.
Brian McGough doesn’t appear to agree with you. He is one of the troops and seems to know. Your opinion comes from someone who has not fought in Iraq. Neither has Rush.
Let’s see, you, the rest of the trolls, and drug addicted Rush Limbaugh, none of whom have even been to Iraq, versus Brian McGough.
Wow, that isn’t even close.
Brian McGough wins. You lose, again.
October 3rd, 2007 at 11:53 amBack to the topic of this thread, no thanks to the trolls:
Brian McGough wins. Rush loses, again.
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 pmLet’s see, you, the rest of the trolls, and drug addicted Rush Limbaugh, none of whom have even been to Iraq, versus Brian McGough.
Wow, that isn’t even close.
Brian McGough wins. You lose, again.
Comment by hterrya
Hmm. You and your pals didn’t seem to mind ignoring a four star generals tesitmony who knows more about what’s going on in Iraq than anyone else. I would bet that the General knows EVEN MORE than McGough.
Calling the kettle “black” AGAIN!
Besides, McGough obviously doesn’t know what Rush said or meant by the phrase “phoney soldiers”. Obviously, neither do you.
October 3rd, 2007 at 2:05 pmBrian McGough doesn’t appear to agree with you. He is one of the troops and seems to know. Your opinion comes from someone who has not fought in Iraq. Neither has Rush.
Comment by hterrya
Rush has bothered to travel to Iraq and Afganistan to see the troops and what’s going on, so I wouldn’t exactly say that he is making comments without any knowledge of what it’s really like over there.
October 3rd, 2007 at 2:10 pmWhen I think of our government, I think of the phrase “…of the people, by the people, and for the people.†You don’t. That says more about you and Rush and the other trolls polluting this site than anything I can think of.
Comment by hterrya
If you read what the framers wrote, they DIDN’T envision a government that had control over our lives and a government that would act as a redistribution “center” that takes money from one person to give to another all in the name of “fairness”.
All I know is, when Democrat’s are in control, I end up bringing LESS money home (and I am in the lower middle class!). You know, the class of people Democrats SAY they are for!
October 3rd, 2007 at 2:16 pmAll I know is, when Democrat’s are in control, I end up bringing LESS money home…
Comment by MaverickCoast — October 3, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
If your making less, and want to make less still, volunteer to be one of the troops you say you support.
October 3rd, 2007 at 2:27 pmBesides, McGough obviously doesn’t know what Rush said or meant by the phrase “phoney soldiersâ€. Obviously, neither do you.
Comment by MaverickCoast — October 3, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
Rush can set McGough “straight.” Write Rush and urge him to have McGough on his program.
You are one of his “dittoheads,” surely he will listen to you!
October 3rd, 2007 at 2:31 pmConservatives want everyone to be successful and have a life of independence from total government control.
Comment by MaverickCoast — October 3, 2007 @ 11:27 am
Maybe that’s what true conservatives want. But Busheviks and Bush followers have no trouble with warrantless wiretapping, reading people’s e-mail, searching their homes without a warrant, etc. Speaking of government control, eh!
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:24 pmRush is disingenuous and so are the Dittoheads who defend him. I can’t believe anyone with a shred of common sense would think otherwise. What is disingenuous about Rush is that he cultivates a narrative about subjects that is clear to most people, but then he hedges on that narrative with subtle escape hatches. gummitch’s post at #26 is perhaps the best summary of this tactic. With regard to the “phony soldiers” comment, Rush has created a narrative that implies a generalization that any soldier who criticizes the war some kind of “phony soldier.” The later claim that he was referring only to soldiers who “fabricate” the details of their service is an out that allows Limbaugh to deny the narrative all the while employing it. He did the same with his follow up comment regarding McGough’s service, calling him a true soldier, while at the same time insulting him as a dupe and equating him with the enemy (suicide bomber). We all know, if we are honest with ourselves, that Rush’s “phony soldiers” meme extends beyond the Jesse MacBeths to all war critics who are also war veterans like McGough, Murtha, Kerry, etc. And we can rest assured that the Dittoheads clearly know this, too. Take “rory,” for instance, who wants us to believe the Limbaugh explanation of what “phony soldiers” literally means (i.e. the Jesse MacBeths of the world) until it applies to someone like Jack Murtha. Whatever Jack Murtha is, he has certainly not fabricated his military service like Jesse MacBeth did. So even “rory” is admitting that there are at least two meanings of “phony soldiers.” And this is part of the Dittoheads’ disingenuousness about this whole affair, too. More troubling, though about this disingenuous among the Dittoheads is that they not only refuse to accept this obvious aspect of Rush’s modus operandi, but that they also defend Rush (as “rory” has done) through spurious dissembling when they’d scoff at a liberal politician or pundit attempting to do the same (i.e. Kerry’s botched “Without education, you get stuck in Iraq” joke about Bush).
October 4th, 2007 at 12:45 pm