Limbaugh Compares Purple Heart Recipient In Vote Vets Ad To A Suicide Bomber
Limbaugh Compares Purple Heart Recipient In Vote Vets Ad To A Suicide Bomber
In a new Vote Vets ad released today, Brian McGough, an Iraq war veteran who received the Purple Heart, challenges Rush Limbaugh: “Until you have the guts to call me a ‘phony soldier‘ to my face, stop telling lies about my service.” Watch it:
In response, Limbaugh today attacked McGough, comparing him to a suicide bomber and suggesting that someone “pumped him full of these lies about what I said“:
This is such a blatant use of a valiant combat veteran, lying to him about what I said and then strapping those lies to his belt, sending him out via the media and a TV ad to walk into as many people as he can walk into.
This man will always be a hero to this country with everyone. Whoever pumped him full of these lies about what I said and embarrassed him with this ad has betrayed him, they aren’t hurting me. They are betraying this soldier.
In McGough’s case, Rush’s comments are especially tactless. McGough’s injury in Iraq “resulted from a real-life suicide bomber.” On DailyKos, McGough responds to Limbaugh:
I can assure you that I am no suicide bomber and that I can think for myself. […]
Rush, your phony soldier comments pissed me off. The audacity of someone like you who never had the courage to stand and fight for what you believe in makes my head spin. That is what made me stand up and state my convictions in front of a camera. I wanted to point out that you are wrong. I am not a phony soldier. […]
In the commercial I just taped, I told you unless you had the guts to say something to my face, stop telling lies about my service. Well you haven’t had the guts to say it to my face, but I am waiting and the offer is still on the table.
Evidently, according to Limbaugh, pretty much everyone lies and has ulterior motives…unless they agree with him.
UPDATE: Media Matters and Digby have more.
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Rush, when you’re in a deep hole, stop digging.
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:49 pmOnce again, libs had to find a veteran with brain damage (read liberal victim) to carry their fight to Limbaugh.
Where is Harken, etc., to fight Limbaugh?
… so are you going to roll out your grandmothers, children or multiple amputies to hide behind next?
Rush is right - you lied to this guy, got him riled up and wheeled him into the media spotlight - you have no shame.
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October 2nd, 2007 at 8:56 pmJohn Soltz has already called out that pu$$y Lush. Lush is a pu$$y just like you Hendler. Join up pu$$y.
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:56 pmJesus H Christ would someone please take a baseball bat to the fat f@ck!
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:57 pmBecause this soldier has an opinion different than the “base” someone has “pumped him full of lies”. And that’s not insulting?
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:59 pmPlease spare me the spin, Rush is a piece of sh!t.
“Rory” sez:
You mean the “phony soldiers” that took real soldiers’ bios off the Internet and misrepresented them as their own, Jake?
Oh, and while you’re here:
You maintained in another thread that the MoveOn ad was was “false”. Demonstrate how the MoveOn ad is false. (and the fact that a majority of Dems voted to condemn the ad does not constitute proof of falseness), or admit your lie.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:00 pmCan we please just drop this?! As if this country doesn’t look stupid enough around the world? Now the world gets to watch us bicker about newspaper ads and talk radio hosts while we are engaged in wars in 2 countries?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:01 pmRush is right - you lied to this guy, got him riled up and wheeled him into the media spotlight - you have no shame.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
Jesus H Christ, you’re an obnoxious fool.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:01 pmSpoodge Boy,
NO ONE is going to fight / debate a war veteran with brain injuries, which is EXACTLY why the libs chose this guy. Libs always have to hide behind victims to fight their battles - just once, foist someone on us who we wouldn’t hesitate to hit.
Harken, etc. are happy for this distraction, realizing that they stepped in it, and can’t back up their bullshit. Well, now you got both Rush and Fox News staring you down - whatcha boys gonna do now, march some girls scouts forward to fight for you?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 pmChubby needs his cystic ass beat
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 pmThe phony soldier is the one who dressed up in a flight suit and declared the mission accomplished over four years ago. The architechs of this phony war and their water-carriers are the phonies. Rush is no more than a drug addicted bigot with a microphone.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 pmLet him dig. This thing has obviously turned around and bit him on the ass, and I think he’s worried about where it’s heading.
It’s one thing to wish out loud that there weren’t so many troops in Iraq that are against Bush and that think he’s screwed them over royally. But, when you start calling those troops names, knowing in your heart of hearts that they represent a large and growing number of the military serving in Iraq, you deserve all the backlash that’s coming your way.
Keep flapping your gums, Rush. We’re just getting warmed up.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 pmRush needs to be given another drug test.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:03 pmOnly a Crackhead would say the things he is saying.
Why is our Military forcing our soldiers to listen to a hyperpartisan Crackhead who is deliberately trying to divide our soldiers into “phony” soldiers and “real” soldiers?
A divided Army is a failed Army.
Congress should step in and stop Rush Limpbaugh from harming our Military by dividing it.
Jason Misogynist Hendler sez:
I don’t know…looks like you’re having no trouble hitting the “cripple”, as you so delicately put it.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:04 pmBob,
Well said Sir!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:04 pmI sincerely feel sorry for anyone that believes anything that comes out of Rush’s mouth.
You people are sick ideologues and you need to wake up.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:05 pmOh, ok, so now soldiers who question the policy in Iraq are too stupid to think for themselves, in addition to being phony. Just gets better and better.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:06 pm#17, criticalthinker,
Can’t say for sure, other than he probably tried to paraphrase, so that the context was more obvious.
As Rush stated on his show, he has made repeated statements over weeks and months, regarding several people who have defrauded both the government and the media, making false claims of their service in Iraq. The only way to explain this is to snip together these disparate statements made over a long period of time.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:09 pmJust for “Rory”:
Your ilk lost all credibility when those pathetic old men Cheney and Rumsfeld said before a missle was launched that the war would last a matter of weeks or months but certainly not years, so crawl back under that rock you deluded punks inhabit.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:09 pmAny comment from Jason, Caring Liberal or “Rory” about Rush comparing McGough to a suicide bomber, considering he was horribly wounded by a suicide bomber? Or, how about his inference that McGough is too stupid to think for himself?
Is it ok with you three that Rush mocks a soldier who was injured while carrying out his duties?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:12 pmAs Rush stated on his show, he has made repeated statements over weeks and months, regarding several people who have defrauded both the government and the media, making false claims of their service in Iraq. The only way to explain this is to snip together these disparate statements made over a long period of time.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
Which is why I repeat myself, from the tail end of another thread:
One way or the other, Limbaugh has brought this all on himself. Among the wingnuts and dittoheads, “phony soldiers†may well refer to people like McBeth, but it’s only because Limbaugh and his ilk have been working like mad to plant that seed in their tiny brains: that all the anti-war soldiers are phonies like McBeth. The dittoheads are incapable of distinguishing Rushspeak from reality, and to them it’s all one word: antiwarsoldiersphonysoldiersmcbeth. Rush and the Right have always operated with code words, and like the Big Lie, they repeat them over and over and over, in as simple terms as possible, while assuring their audience that “you are really smart, smarter than libs, because you listen to me!â€
Once they’ve established this groundwork, they can dismiss all anti-war comments from military personnel, or retired military, with the same quick code words. In this case, “phony soldiers.†And the wingnuts nod their dittoheads in agreement: “antiwarsoldiersphonysoldiersmcbeth†.
That’s why Rush’s minions are always saying the same thing: “You need to listen to Rush all the time, then you’d understand what he meant.†And they’re correct; if you listened to Rush all the time you’d have learned all the codewords and could easily interpret what he “really meantâ€. In this case, he “really meant†that anyone in the armed forces, or who has retired from the armed forces who doesn’t utterly and completely support all military adventures carried out by the “conservatives†is a antiwarsoldiersphonysoldiersmcbeth.
Comment by gummitch — October 2, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:13 pmTranscript?! I don’t need no stinkin’ transcript, criticalthinker. I listened to the entire exchange LIVE on the 26th.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
So we should rely on your memory of what was at the time an uncritical listening process, rather than on actual transcripts? You’re delusional.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:14 pmComment by “Rory” — October 2, 2007 @ 9:05 pm
What a load of sh!t, Jake. All those words, and you have yet to point out one falsehood in the MoveOn.org ad.
The question stands.
(BTW, Jake, you don’t need to put my name in quotes…I’m not the one running away from my past. ^_^)
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:14 pm#27 Jason M. Hendler
As Rush stated on his show…
You mean where he edited out the incriminating parts and cut out the whole first hour of the show when it was broadcast on Armed Forces Radio? I wonder why he would have done that.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:14 pmTrip,
“I don’t know…looks like you’re having no trouble hitting the “crippleâ€, as you so delicately put it.”
Goddamn right! I don’t hold anything back from the obvious pawns of cowardly liberals - I’ve had to face down countless individuals who hold “victim status” with the liberals, thinking they hold moral authority over me. Bah! There is only one way to dispatch them - quickly and decisively - allowing them to scream victim as their only resort. After awhile, their tactic loses affect, so that they can’t use it anymore, which is why/how libs have lost power in this country.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:15 pmThis just gets better and better.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:15 pmI’m awake, Neeko. You will, at least, admit that the REAL soldiers are fighting a war in Iraq, right?
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
And some of those “REAL” soldiers have spoken out against the occupation of Iraq, not only after they return but while they’re still in combat. Some of those “REAL” soldiers have now left the military and are speaking out against the occupation in Iraq. You and Rush and the rest of the dittoheads are the ones constantly coming up with excuses about why it’s OK to dismiss them as “phony soldiers”.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:15 pmWhat part of “This man will always be a hero to this country with everyone†(see excert above) are you having trouble understanding?
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
Yes, after he mocks his injuries by using the suicide bomber metaphor, and calling him too stupid to think for himself. Praise as an afterthought doesn’t count.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:16 pmthis is beautiful, rush is in panic mode. the pimple on his cowardly fat ass must be killing him.
eh?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:17 pmGoddamn right! I don’t hold anything back from the obvious pawns of cowardly liberals - I’ve had to face down countless individuals who hold “victim status†with the liberals, thinking they hold moral authority over me. Bah! There is only one way to dispatch them - quickly and decisively - allowing them to scream victim as their only resort. After awhile, their tactic loses affect, so that they can’t use it anymore, which is why/how libs have lost power in this country.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
Read his comments about Rush in the links above, not just in the ad. He obviously came to his anger all on his own, and he’s no one’s pawn. He’s saying things you don’t want to hear, so like Rush, you dismiss him and diminish him rather than listen.
The “victims” these days are the “conservatives” and dittoheads whining about how they’re being misunderstood.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:17 pmRegardless of whether he’s been duped into being a figurative suicide bomber.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
Read my previous comment. And shame on you for calling McGough too stupid to think for himself, too.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:17 pmJason M. Hendler,
Why do you hate our soldiers?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:18 pmfat-ass, you’re a no- good junkie P.O.S.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:18 pmI’ll be happy if half your retarded lissners would wise up
I’d be happy to win the lottery, too, and about as much chance of THAT happening as well.
take 2- oxycontins and roll in your cash
Let me fix this: You will, at least, admit that the REAL soldiers are fighting an unwinnable civil war in Iraq, right?
That’s correct. The phony soldiers are internet wannabe’s who are clueless about why we are there and are willing to demean and smear those who disagree with their cartoon perspective about the reality of the situation.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:18 pmLimbuagh’s ability to control the microphone does not make him right or entitles him to attacked soldiers who did go and fight while he chose not to when he was qualified to go to war, simply because they expressed an opinion based on what they saw ,experienced and went thru in the war they fought.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 pmThe loud voices whether pro and against war seem to be coming from people who never seen any action.
What gives Limbaugh that power or right to sit down in his studio judge and smear others in a field he never experienced ?..these people fought , while he went to play golf, smoked his cigar and made his $$ millions as a propagandist.
#43, gummitch,
NO, you USED a brain damaged veteran, so that, if Rush does debate him, you make Rush look bad for fighting a cripple - period.
Why don’t you find someone who isn’t part of your victim pool? Why not Harkin, etc., who have no problem using the Senate microphone, but won’t debate Rush directly? Those are obvious choices, but you just won’t do it.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 pmComment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
I’m sure that’s how you see it because that’s how Rush TOLD you to see it. Now who’s too stupid to think for himself?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 pmJason Misogynist Hendler sez:
Oh yes…you’re a real terror.
The “victims”, as you like to call them, don’t hold moral authority over you as a result of their injuries. The hold moral authority over you as a result of their selfless sacrifice for their country. The fact that you can’t differentiate between the two truly speaks volumes.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:22 pmRory,
“I see it…”
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:23 pmI don’t really give a f*ck how you see it.
Who knows phonys better than a Dr. Shopper looking for a fix?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:23 pmRory :
mcgough challenged “pimple ass”… GET IT NOW?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:24 pmInnocent Bystander:
At least you agree there ARE phony soldiers . . .
Totally, Rory….and I’d peg you as a pfc in that army. Soldier on…..General Limbaugh needs your support!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 pmRush stated that McGough is NOT a “phoney soldier.†GET IT NOW?
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
No, I don’t get it. But then, I would never mock a soldier or support someone who does. That whole line of thinking is beyond my comprehension.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:27 pm“Jason Misogynist Hendler sez:
Goddamn right! I don’t hold anything back from the obvious pawns of cowardly liberals - I’ve had to face down countless individuals who hold “victim status†with the liberals, thinking they hold moral authority over me.
Oh yes…you’re a real terror.
The “victimsâ€, as you like to call them, don’t hold moral authority over you as a result of their injuries. The hold moral authority over you as a result of their selfless sacrifice for their country. The fact that you can’t differentiate between the two truly speaks volumes.”
Typical lib approach - first you call me misogynist/bigot, whatever makes your message immediately more receptive to all who perceive themselves a member of liberal victimhood, then, you reinforce/elevate your victim status (and your own) by invoking someone else’s suffering/sacrifice. Still wonder why I pound you - shattering your phony image?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:29 pmPlease explain:
To a conservative, it makes sense to “support the troops” while criticising the patriotism of a decorated soldier.
To a liberal it makes sense to “support the troops” while criticising the excesses such as Abu Ghraib and Haditha.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:30 pm#43, gummitch,
NO, you USED a brain damaged veteran, so that, if Rush does debate him, you make Rush look bad for fighting a cripple - period.
Why don’t you find someone who isn’t part of your victim pool? Why not Harkin, etc., who have no problem using the Senate microphone, but won’t debate Rush directly? Those are obvious choices, but you just won’t do it.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
I used him? Me?
It never occurred to you, I suppose, that stepping up and making that commercial was his idea. No, he’s criticized your hero Rush, so that means he’s a dupe of the evil liberals, the ones hiding under your bed.
You’re the one who is assigning his victim status. I see brave soldier who gave up a chunk of his brain for this country and now has to put up with people like you who assume he can’t think for himself.
Why aren’t you over there in his place, “Jason”?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:30 pmRory,
Right you are. Sorry about that.
However you and your ilk still have no credibility, whatsoever, so the verbiage still drones like Charlie Browns teacher.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:32 pm#68, gummitch,
I seriously doubt that this particular veteran, on his own, acquired the production equipment, personnel and money to voice his own thoughts. He is obviously a willing victim of liberal propagandists who were seeking a voice to shout at Rush, and found their perfect victim - an injured vet who Rush couldn’t hit back.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:33 pmAnd of course the dems use Harkin, of all people, to condemn Rush.
Elected politician Harkin, a guy who lied about his own military record is going to condemn Rush Limbaugh, private citizen, about abusing the military. Its pathetic and comical.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:31 pm
I’m pretty sure Harkin used himself. Y’all have some sick ideas about using people. In our part of the world, people stand up for themselves and don’t need other people to use them as puppets. Obviously, your “reality” is different.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:34 pmYou will, at least, admit that the REAL soldiers are fighting a war in Iraq, right?
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
What are you saying? Not clear.
I seriously doubt that you are awake. You buy every reason for going to Iraq that they spew. You conveniently ignore the massive death toll.
You probably think that this “War” on terror is comparable to that of WWII where we faced TWO powerful countries and 50 million were dead by the time the smoke had cleared. You bought their scary stories about the terrorist boogeyman and act like the proverbial elephant that’s scared of a tiny mouse.
The soldiers should have never been dumped their by Bush in the first place. We could have dealt with the terrorist threat more quickly and in an intelligent manner, but no, we had to invade Iraq and spread our forces thin. How are things now in regards to security for the US? Worse, and you can’t prove otherwise.
Wake up.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:36 pmNO ONE is going to fight / debate a war veteran with brain injuries, which is EXACTLY why the libs chose this guy. Libs always have to hide behind victims to fight their battles - just once, foist someone on us who we wouldn’t hesitate to hit.
Harken, etc. are happy for this distraction, realizing that they stepped in it, and can’t back up their bullshit. Well, now you got both Rush and Fox News staring you down - whatcha boys gonna do now, march some girls scouts forward to fight for you?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:02 pm
Do you have a link or evidence that “libs chose this guy� You make it sound like McGough doesn’t have enough sense to have an opinion or make a decision on his own. I bet if you asked McGough, he would tell you he is NO victim and then proceed to beat the shit out of your smart ass while holding one hand behind his back.
Idiot.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:38 pmI seriously doubt that this particular veteran, on his own, acquired the production equipment, personnel and money to voice his own thoughts. He is obviously a willing victim of liberal propagandists who were seeking a voice to shout at Rush, and found their perfect victim - an injured vet who Rush couldn’t hit back.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
We seriously doubt that you, on your own, acquired the propaganda, talking points, and disinformation to voice your own dishonest attack on this person. You seem to think our troops can’t think or speak for themselves, unless they’re holding a GOP microphone and production equipment, like the former Gay Porn star military spokesman Fox News used to parade out.
Rush can hit back, and in fact a wounded soldier never stopped him before, neither did a man dying of Parkinson’s. Neither did it stop you from smearing him as incapable of thinking for himself, and a pawn. You’re a shameless individual, and no different from Rush! What a pathetic excuse for a human being you wingnuts have become!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:41 pmAWOL coward George W. Bush the MURDEROUS coxucker PUNK traitor:
The ULTIMATE “phony soldier”.
Bush Crime–70 Years of TREASON against the USA and MORE! (TM)
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:41 pmLimbaugh is a prototypical modern “conservative”. He’s a coward. The fascists that drive the propaganda machine at Faux News and on wingnut radio are bullying cowards.
Not only are Hannity, O’Reilly, Limbaugh, and their disgusting ilk chickenhawks, they don’t even have the courage to fight fair on their programs. The dittoheads and the Faux followers are simply incapable of understanding how grotesquely they’ve been manipulated. Not the sharpest knives in the drawer, that lot.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:42 pmTypical lib approach - first you call me misogynist/bigot, Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:29 pm
You are a mysognist and bigot.
whatever makes your message immediately more receptive to all who perceive themselves a member of liberal victimhood, Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:29 pm
Oh, but Hendler, next to you, practically noone looks like a professional victim! You whine constantly about liberals victimizing you - just like the previous sentence! Whine, Whine, Whine, you’re such a whiny little girl!
then, you reinforce/elevate your victim status (and your own) by invoking someone else’s suffering/sacrifice. Still wonder why I pound you - shattering your phony image?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:29 pm
You mean like the wounded soldier that kept whining about being spit on, even when videotape showed him to be a professional victim and liar? You know all of that projection really should tell you to get some mental health professional services! Surely that company of yours can afford to get you the treatment you so clearly deserve!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:43 pmWow Rory you are putting in some long hours on the internet with the three kids you claim to have. I had 3 kids and couldn’t even find time to read a book for myself.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:43 pmAt least we agree there ARE indeed “phony soldiers.†It’s a start.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:42 pm
Right you are, Rory…
Bush, Cheney, Rush…
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:44 pmRory,
Any soldier that set foot on Iraqi soldier is legitimate, can we agree on that?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:44 pmArn Gunnutes:
At least we agree there ARE indeed “phony soldiers.†It’s a start.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:42 pm
Yes, draft dodgers like Rush, and Bush - who ‘pretend’ to be he-men women haters…
You have no excuses though, little girl!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:44 pmWow Rory you are putting in some long hours on the internet with the three kids you claim to have. I had 3 kids and couldn’t even find time to read a book for myself.
Comment by texaslady — October 2, 2007 @ 9:43 pm
Maybe she’s been going to the Mighty Aphrodite school of fake kid abandonment and dead baby joke seminars?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:45 pmThat would be “Iraqi soil”…typing too fast there.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:45 pmSOMEONE told him that Rush had called every service member opposed to the war “phony soldiers.†I think it is clear above that Rush does not think that at least ONE service member opposed to the war is a “phony soldier.â€
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
Actually a caller said that, and Rush agreed with him.
What’s clear is how readily you apologists are to ignore the hateful statements you make, while criticizing the honest questions from those that dissent from your questionable (and later proved to be completely false) statements.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:47 pmAt least we agree there ARE indeed “phony soldiers.†It’s a start.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:42 pm
Right you are, Rory…
Bush, Cheney, Rush…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — October 2, 2007
Yup. Them and O’Dildo, Savage, Beck are ALL phony soldiers.
The ones who spoke out against Iraq are REAL SOLDIERS.
BETRAYUS used to be a real soldier, but went DERELICT in his DUTY TO THE USA, and became another Bush azz-licking sellout. A PHONY!!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:47 pmThis really is a conundrum for the fascists. They’ll lie, steal, cheat and edit the transcript, but once the military and their families turn on them, the jig may be up.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:49 pm“Looks like we can all agree there are “phony soldiers.†The hard part is determining who they are . . .
Comment by Rory
They’re called mercenaries, a la Blackwater USA.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:49 pm“general” BETRAYUS…
Bush the AWOL coward BETRAYUS…
The Rapeublican cowards in Congress BETRAYUS…
Fox “news” BETRAYUS…
BURN IN HELL, TRAITOR Bush and your azz-lickers like BETRAYUS!!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:49 pmIll say it again, I sure am proud of the new democrat majority houses working on behalf of America. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
Hey, they did America a service by publicly demonstrating what dishonest, and hypocritical liars you all are. That’s a pretty big accomplishment!
I am praying that the dems drag this out forever, in fact I hope Reid hosts another slumber-party stunt next week. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
So do we, the more this is in the news, the more like baby sore losers that refuse to hold their own to decent standards you are shown to be. Only in the delusional wingnut blogs do people actually think you’re benefiting from your bad PR!
First Petraeus and now a private citizen radio jock…who ISNT on the hit-list of the feckless democrat majority?
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
Actually it was Moveon that was on the hitlist, and by your wingnut friends. Ironically the questions about petraeus being deceptive were proven to be true by the Pentagon the following week. So moveon was right. However Rush, and the feckless Minority republicans are too cowardly to live by their own standards.
You’re a bunch of wimpy, sore loser, lying, hypocrites. Not that anyone paying attention for the last 7 years need reminding of this!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:50 pmThe DARVO Act:
Rush on Air: “Phony soldiers”
Act 1,
‘Deny’
Rush: I didnt call any soldiers phony! I am not the offender!!
Act 2
‘Attack’
This is all hyperbole created, a conspiracy, Reid and Media Matters, they are lying! They all lie Wahhh!! Poor me! Im the victim!!
Act 3
‘Reverse Roles’
[victim/offender]
They are taking what I said out context, they are smearing my good name and trying to destroy my radio show!
Almost an exact replay of Oreillys visit to a black restaurant.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:51 pmDinner’s done and everyone’s doing their homework. Thanks for your concern though. Looks like we can all agree there are “phony soldiers.†The hard part is determining who they are . . .
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:47 pm
Not in the military, or having served honorably - unlike what Rush said.
I’m glad you finally condemned Rush for his Reckless Slur!
Oh wait, you haven’t had the honesty and decency to do that yet.
As for the kids doing their homework, shouldn’t you be helping them? You wouldn’t want them to end up like yourself, deficient intellectually or something, now would you?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:51 pmI wonder how many Limpwad transcripts could be turned up where he rails against those he claimed didn’t “Support the Troops”
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:52 pmHis comments are deplorable, disgusting, and totally wacko.
To be perfectly clear then, everyone agrees with Rush that there ARE indeed “phony soldiers� We just are nevar going to agree which ones are “phony†or not.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
To be perfectly clear then, you agree that Rush calling our Soldiers, Phony was an unacceptable slur?
Or course not. You can’t possibly be a decent human being, you’re not even a real mother - at least not without the two syllables that follow it naturally in your case.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:53 pmRory @ 97,
So then it stands to reason that the very soldiers that Limbaugh denigrated, the one’s he calls “phony”, are in fact legitimate. Can we all agree that it was a serious error in judgment on his part?
Hey, Rush is only human, I mean he doesn’t really believe all that self-congratulatory nonsense he spews every day, right? I’m guessing Rush Limbaugh is about the most insecure man ever to speak into a microphone. Hence the wicked drug jones.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:53 pmRyan,
Just as Bill Maher stated on his own show, just because you criticize a black or a woman, doesn’t make you a racist or a bigot. Libs always foist a woman or minority into the debate, so if they lose the arguement, they can at least then scream discrimination, as is the case in this issue.
Again, bring forth your champion who can’t claim special victim status, and put this person on Rush’s show. Better still, since Harkin is keen to run his mouth in the Senate, then put him on Rush’s show, since he has already volunteered.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:53 pmClinton, Clinton, Edwards…
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
When were they wearing Bush’s Codpiece? Oh wait, more projection from the “Phony Soldier” - wink wink.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:53 pmPhony Soldier?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:55 pma Iraq bound Neocon forcibley in uniform with a large peestain and soggy boots
Just as Bill Maher stated on his own show, just because you criticize a black or a woman, doesn’t make you a racist or a bigot. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
But calling black people professional victims (your action) does.
Libs always foist a woman or minority into the debate, so if they lose the arguement, they can at least then scream discrimination, as is the case in this issue. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
That opinion alone is about as racist as it comes.
Again, bring forth your champion who can’t claim special victim status, and put this person on Rush’s show. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
Maybe you should talk to Fox about that, as they love bringing out wounded soldiers. Your projection though, is pretty tiresome son.
Better still, since Harkin is keen to run his mouth in the Senate, then put him on Rush’s show, since he has already volunteered.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
Oh please, Bush couldn’t get off his fat cyst to eat a donut. You really think he has any more b*lls than you do? You’re both wimpy-men, and that’s why you’re so misogynistic and sexist. Self loathing!
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:56 pmRyan
“Actually it was Moveon that was on the hitlist, and by your wingnut friends. Ironically the questions about petraeus being deceptive were proven to be true by the Pentagon the following week. So moveon was right. However Rush, and the feckless Minority republicans are too cowardly to live by their own standards.
You’re a bunch of wimpy, sore loser, lying, hypocrites. Not that anyone paying attention for the last 7 years need reminding of this!”
It was the Democratically controlled congress that condemned MoveOn.org, so how can you claim that it is just Reps?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:56 pmJust as Bill Maher stated on his own show, just because you criticize a black or a woman, doesn’t make you a racist or a bigot.
That would be true if one were to leave the word black out of the criticism, unfortunately Oreilly doesn’t do that.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:56 pmIt was the Democratically controlled congress that condemned MoveOn.org, so how can you claim that it is just Reps?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
They did it to prove the hypocrisy of the Repubs. And we see today that they will not criticise their own.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:58 pmYah, the U.S. Senate decides to excoriate a private citizen for exercising his freedom of speech. Wow, quite the accomplishment. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
Yah, the republicans in the US Senate publican excoriated a private group for exercising their freedom of speech. Wow, the accomplishment is all yours! Hypocrite
You obviously havent seen the latest poll numbers for the democrat-controlled houses, coming on the heels of the disastrous Petraeus debacle. Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
You mean the latest polls that show over 50% of Americans are now Democrats, only 37% of Professionals/Money people are now Republicans, and that the Democrats in Congress still have higher polling numbers than either the President or the Republicans in Congress? Those numbers?
Yeah, reality has a bias that hates you son.
Go ask Harkin how many combat missions he flew over Vietnam.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
Yet he doesn’t have the b*lls to stand up to losers like you and not be a hypocrite. Ah the glory days of youth, when the man still had b*lls. What, did he get those shot off in Vietnam as well - like you?
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:59 pm#115, Ryan,
You are making my points for me. Indiscriminately labelling all criticism associated with a woman / minority as bigotted causes your labeling to lose affect. Political correctness is dying, because Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Jason M. Hendler aren’t afraid to push ANYONE who pushes us.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:59 pmI thought Bush ate pretzels, Ryan Neat?
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:58 pm
Rush, not Bush.
No, Jay11, we can’t agree (as I’ve made abundantly clear on several anti-Rush threads now). He was only calling out those who even I agree are “phony soldiers.†Now, I realize you may think that Bush is the “phony soldier†but, as I stated above, we will have to agree to disagree on that.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:57 pm
That’s a lie. What you point out, just makes you look ignorant, and/or illiterate little girl. I hope you aren’t home schooling those children, otherwise surely some crime is being committed!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:00 pmHe was only calling out those who even I agree are “phony soldiers.â€
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:57 pm
Rory, except that he later included Murtha in his description of a phony soldier. Didn’t Murtha in fact, serve? Or does your understanding of Rush’s definition of phony soldier and your agreement with it have some exceptions?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:01 pmIn effect, Jason, they, Repubs, are making themselves hypocrites with their own handywork and lack of self-critcism.
Its like watching Fonzi try to say the he was ‘ww- w- wrong’ They simply cannot and will not admit they are hypocrites.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:01 pmWho are the phony soldiers? There are hundreds of soldiers now openly speaking out against the war and against the Bush administration, are they all phonies? We have soldiers with shrapnel in their bodies calling out the righwing hypocrites for never putting their own asses on the line but cheering unabashedly for war. Are they phony? Who the fuc# are the phony soldiers?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:01 pmPolitical correctness is dying, because Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Jason M. Hendler aren’t afraid to push ANYONE who pushes us.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
No, the fact is the Democrats push their own, you cant even bring yourself to criticize yourself, thats called HYPOCRISY and thats the problem with conservatism.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:02 pmYou are making my points for me. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
If your goal is to prove what a misogynistic sexist bigot you are, then yep, I sure am. In your compromised disease though, I know you can miss social and subtle clues, so it’s OK, you can catch up to the rest of the boys and girls later when the short bus comes by for you.
Indiscriminately labelling all criticism associated with a woman / minority as bigotted causes your labeling to lose affect. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
Indiscriminately saying that the inclusion of a minority or woman is a racist act causes you to be proven to be a racist/sexist pig.
Political correctness is dying, because Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Jason M. Hendler aren’t afraid to push ANYONE who pushes us.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
Only among politically incorrect pigs, and redstate rednecks. You really should hang out with a higher class of people, the red is rubbing off on you Hendler.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:02 pmArn Gunnutes,
I like your style!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:03 pmF*ck the whole lot Conserv666ative Christ666ian republic666ans. Evil people with black hearts, chicken-hawk pieces of sh!t that send others to die for their delusions and ignorance. F*ck playing nice! Backwards ass inbred NASCAR watching sister f*cking trailer trash the lot of them!
No, Candyce, I agree that Murtha is a “phony soldier.†Cowards cut and run. Marines never do.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
Says the “Phony Mom”. Sorry, but this is exactly the kind of smear, slur and attack that shows why you and your party are unworthy of even talking to. You’re human filth, nothing more.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:03 pmI’m not the one who typed “Bush†instead of “Rush.â€
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 10:01 pm
Didn’t say you were, catch up, homeschool.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:04 pmwijg:
SOMEONE told him that Rush had called every service member opposed to the war “phony soldiers.†I think it is clear above that Rush does not think that at least ONE service member opposed to the war is a “phony soldier.â€
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
Are you serious? So you don’t think McGough read the transcript and made his own decision? You people honestly have NO respect for our men and women fighting over there do you? Contrary to what you believe they are not brainless killing machines, they are thinking, feeling human beings.
You make me sick.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:04 pmBush was an AWOL coward and now is a TRAITOR coxucker PUNK.
May he BURN IN HELL for the GENOCIDE he has caused.
Along with the REST of the Bush Criminals (TM).
The REAL phony “soldier”!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:04 pm“Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Jason M. Hendler aren’t afraid to push ANYONE who pushes us.”
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
My, my, haven’t you joined an august company!
Looks like quite the little cheese sandwich to me……
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:04 pmWhat does Ann smell like, hmmm?
Bleu? Roquefort?
Wait, wait, I got it! Limbaughger!!!
“Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Jason M. Hendler aren’t afraid to push ANYONE who pushes us.â€
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Otherwise known as the shrill little whiny girls in the corner. Wah, Wah, Wah… You’re all just so fascinating, NOT!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:05 pmNo, Candyce, I agree that Murtha is a “phony soldier.†Cowards cut and run. Marines never do.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
Spoken like a guy who’s never served. Very good. So, you now admit Rush lied about the phony soldier context. We’re making progress at least.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:05 pmRory @ 130
“cowards cut and run. Marines never do”
Are you a marine? What on earth is cut and run? Getting our marines asses out of the hell hole that the warmongers and profiteers have created is called saving their lives, not cutting and running. Please understand the distinction.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:05 pmA conservative government is an organized hypocrisy.
Benjamin Disraeli, Speech in the House of Commons, Mar. 3, 1845
British politician (1804 - 1881)
It was as true then as it is today.
Haggard? A hypocrite.
Mark Foley who helped create child stalking laws? Hypocrite.
Karl Rove compassionate conservatism? More Hypocrisy.
The list goes on and on.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:06 pm#126, Xisithrus,
MoveOn.org published a 4 word statement of Gen. Petraeus that could not possibly be misinterpreted as anything but calling him a traitor. Rush is embroiled in a controversy spanning weeks / months of his show handling cases in which libs push the fraudulent stories of “soldiers”, so there is nothing hypocritical in their respective approaches. MoveOn.org got spanked by a Democratically controlled congress, while Rush won’t be touched by a Democratically controlled congress - don’t like it, stop voting for Dems.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:06 pmRory @ 130 “cowards cut and run. Marines never doâ€
So now your bashing Bush Sr and Ronald Reagan?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:07 pmArn Gunnutes,
I like your style!
F*ck the whole lot Conserv666ative Christ666ian republic666ans. Evil people with black hearts, chicken-hawk pieces of sh!t that send others to die for their delusions and ignorance. F*ck playing nice! Backwards ass inbred NASCAR watching sister f*cking trailer trash the lot of them!
Comment by rocks911 — October 2, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
Yeah, I know.
I AM a Christian. Jews, Arabs, Hindus, etc. are our BROTHERS & SISTERS.
But I don’t see people like Bush, etc. following the WORD of Jesus.
LIE, STEAL, KILL.
DEFINITELY NOT “what Jesus would do”…
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:07 pmRush was a scared coward when his country needed him during the Vietnam War. Yes druggie child molester Rush got a quack Doctor to give him an illness so he wouldn’t have to serve in the US Military.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:07 pmI notice most of the men who are pushing for our troops to die for oil didn’t join the Military themselves.
Yes I know some of our elected officials are closet gays, druggies, perverts and just scared to be men. But they see no problem talking about real men. I loved the Marine called Bush when he visited Walter Reed. Yes our troops are letting it out as the injured Marine called Bush a Bi-ch to his face not once but twice. Yes the Military news to families of those serving in the service get much more of the news then the regular spin by the White House Media. These guys in our Military really tell it like it is.
Nope, the polls that have congress at about 11% approval and General Petraeus at 60% approval, hence the “coming on the heels of the Petraeus debacle†reference.
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
Congressional Democrats poll at 38, Bush 33, the Republicans mid 20s.
You really should read the polls more carefully, the general poll of congress is as much a frustration at obstruction Republicans as it is anything. And the breakout poll shows this. The majority of Americans (over 50%) see the Republicans as the problem with Congressional progress.
It really sucks to be a republican liar, in the age of the internet! Good for you that you’re anonymous! If people in the real world could see how stupid people like you look on this blog - oh boy for you!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:08 pmNo but they are nazis, at least according to Durbin(D).
Comment by Caring Liberal — October 2, 2007 @ 10:07 pm
Hey, some of you are, and you do tend to like the boots!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:08 pmMoveOn.org published a 4 word statement of Gen. Petraeus that could not possibly be misinterpreted as anything but calling him a traitor.
Correct. If he chooses to be allegiant to a AWOL coward TRAITOR like Bush the WAR CRIMINAL, then BETRAYUS is a TRAITOR to the USA.
Private citizen here.
Fkvc BETRAYUS and TRAITOR Bush…
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:09 pmMoveOn.org published a 4 word statement of Gen. Petraeus that could not possibly be misinterpreted as anything but calling him a traitor. -Jason Hendler
And what is the difference between that and what Rush is implying?
NONE.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:09 pmRush Limbaugh was probably too fat to qualify for the armed forces - that and all of the drugs in his bloodstream, that is! This man a one huge, obese joke on the reichwing nutcases. He’s the locksteppers wet dream with his bigotry and idiocy - their poster child. What they fail to realize is that someday Rush will tell them all “they’ve been X-ed”! hahahaha.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:10 pmI wouldn’t flatter Hendler or Rush with making him the topic of any credible thread. Bor-ing!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:10 pm#149, Ryan,
Cherry picking polls again. Fox has Rush at 32% and Congress at 26%. These numbers jump around, but generally have the Congress polling below the Prez.
Reps will take back the Congress in 2008, and will be led by much stronger leaders like McConnell, Lott, Boehner and Blunt - they don’t play around.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:11 pmJack Murtha is a phony soldier huh? Rory, I’ll ask you again, are you a marine? Have you served? What the difference between “real” soldiers and…you know, the fake ones?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:12 pmFortunately, we can form our own opinions about who is and who is not a phony.
Your choice (a) someone who has no war experience and lives off of stokes the fires of hatred in order to make himself look smarter
or…..
(b) someone who had seen first hand what is happening and gives his/her opinion.
Yes we know who the phonies are. Rush is one of the biggest ever. When he does pass from the airwaves eventually, it will not be with honors.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:12 pmhttp://www.salon.com/ opinion/ greenwald/ 2007/ 09/ 29/ hunt/ index.html
What about what David Hunt said on FOX Jason?
Our generals are betraying our soldiers . . . again.
I know what moveon said Jason, and I suppose you think I agree with such words. The fact is I dont.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:12 pmWell, Rush obviously thinks of himself as great for having a big purple cist on his butt and probably on his brain, too.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:13 pmI’m taking a break from working on a translation and haven’t had time to look at other comments, so I hope no one has written roughly the same thing.
#152, Xis,
You are trying to infer that Rush called “all soldiers who oppose the Iraq War” phony based on one snippet of his weeks / months long diatribe against many frauds who’ve been found out. MoveOn.org published 4 words that CANNOT be misinterpreted, whereas Rush is being taken out of context - THAT is the difference.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:14 pmComment by non-Caring
LiberalConpervative — October 2, 2007At least have the courage to call yourself a conservative.
What about Scanlon? What about those bridges to nowhere? What about the (R) culture of corruption cloaked in the name of Jesus?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:15 pmReps will take back the Congress in 2008, and will be led by much stronger leaders like McConnell, Lott, Boehner and Blunt - they don’t play around.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 10:11 pm
LOL!!
More PHONY “soldiers” like TRAITORS Bush, Cheney and BETRAYUS!!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:15 pm#159, Xis,
I don’t think you, or most people, agree with MoveOn.org. I am just trying to explain why there is a tremendous difference between what MoveOn.org stated and what Rush Limbaugh stated.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:16 pmRepublican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an “assistant U.S. attorney” appointed by President Bush’s attorney general.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:16 pm\
Hypocrisy! Gonzo said he wanted to protect the children?
And what is the difference between that and what Rush is implying?
NONE.
Comment by Xisithrus — October 2, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
I actually see a difference. Generals are supposed to be criticized if their policies and actions are questionable. They don’t have carte blanch immunity from oversight. It’s part of the job, and they are answerable to the American people.
Soldiers on the ground, who serve with honor regardless of what they think about the policies, are not fair game for political pundits who would attack them for their views. The guys who wrote the op-ed said it very clearly. We need not talk about our morale. As committed soldiers, we will see this mission through. And that’s all that matters - regardless of their view of the mission, they are all “real soldiers” who will do their duty.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:16 pmReps will take back the Congress in 2008, and will be led by much stronger leaders like McConnell, Lott, Boehner and Blunt - they don’t play around.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 10:11 pm
I recall your telling us around this time last year that the Republicans would win big in November 2006, Jason/bogus Stanford/Ivy League grad. By “they don’t play around,” do you mean they don’t go after teenage pages like Mark Foley or toe-dance in toilets like Senator Craig?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:16 pmCaring Liberal,
What’s a poverty speech? Does Edwards make “poverty speeches” often, or does he make speeches in which poverty is addressed? Do the “poor” folks have to cough up the 50K? Does it come out of their food stamp allotment or their welfare checks?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:17 pmBETRAYUS.
The CORRECT word for ALL of the Bush WAR CRIMINAL TRAITORS.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:19 pmReps will take back the Congress in 2008, and will be led by much stronger leaders like McConnell, Lott, Boehner and Blunt - they don’t play around. Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Mconnell has already been caught lying, Boehner is just another version of the corrupt Delay and Blunts wife is a lobbyist with ties to stem cell research. More ‘value voter’ hypocrisy.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:19 pmNight, Jake.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:20 pm#168, Lora,
LOL - I remember when John Kerry made his gaff before the 2006 election, causing him, Reid and Pelosi to hide for 3 weeks until the Dems could squeak through with narrow margins. No one on TP believed that you would win either, and in the end, you didn’t. Dems have given the Reps the best cover through this war, causing Hill’reh to really have to sweat an otherwise simple task of winning in 2008. Even if Hill’reh pulls it off, the Congress will move back to Rep control.
I do have an MSEE from Stanford, and several patents to my name, which you can look up.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:21 pmRory,
Win what? The only winners are the war-profiteers and they’ve been wiping their asses with our tax dollars for years now. The Bush admin has won what they set out to win (unless you count Iran’s resources too), access to the natural resources under Iraqi sand. This war really is about preserving our way of life as we were told in the beginning. If we lose access to the cheap, sweet, light, crude…our fallacious economy cannot continue to expand. Simple.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:22 pm“No, Candyce, I agree that Murtha is a “phony soldier.†Cowards cut and run. Marines never do.
Comment by Rory
Bush Sr served in the forces and cut and ran from baghdad, I guess he’s now a phony soldier?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:23 pmRepublican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
^^^This is the kind of people that Jason votes for.^^
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:24 pmClear Channel backing Rush:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298999,00.html
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:24 pmI recall your telling us around this time last year that the Republicans would win big in November 2006, Jason/bogus Stanford/Ivy League grad. By “they don’t play around,†do you mean they don’t go after teenage pages like Mark Foley or toe-dance in toilets like Senator Craig?
Comment by Lora — October 2, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
Considering all the “issues” with the Repug Congressmen, the ones not in jail or not outed will still lose many seats in what may be the biggest landslide in history. And the Dems are outraising the Repugs by almost a 3 to 1 margin, so this will be a fun time to not be a Repug!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:25 pmRepublican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
Another of Jasons heros!
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:26 pm#179, Xis,
Don’t be silly. I don’t approve of such behaviour, and they should be prosecuted same as anyone else.
Dems, on the other hand, support Ted Kennedy and Barney Franks’ illegal behaviours, re-electing them over and over again.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:27 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJZoai2HIeA
LMAO.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:27 pmRight, so the fact that Gore consumes fuel to spread his message makes it less valid how? Would it make you fell less threatened if Gore sat behind a keyboard and warned us about the fact that the earth is sick? How would you propose he spread the message across the globe? Message in a bottle?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:28 pmDon’t be silly. I don’t approve of such behaviour, and they should be prosecuted same as anyone else. Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Unless its Rush and FOX doing what moveon did.
Your hypocrisy is showing, again.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:29 pm“No, Candyce, I agree that Murtha is a “phony soldier.†Cowards cut and run. Marines never do.
Comment by Rory — October 2, 2007 @ 10:02 pmâ€
So….. Then soldiers are ONLY soldiers if YOU determine that they fit the requirements that YOU set???
IDIOT!!!!
What is YOUR MOS?
If you have none, the STFU!
Comment by RemoveBush — October 2, 2007 @ 10:20 pm
This is one sick puppy, as he doesn’t even know that Murtha was a f’ing Marine! Rory was only a soldier in his warped little mind.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:29 pmRepublican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
Another of Jasons heros!
jason, is this true?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:31 pm#
Who do you vote for, xisithrus, the man who leaves a young woman to drown or the Grand Cyclops?
Comment by Caring Liberal
Who do you vote for, Cunninghams and hookers? Vitters and prosititutes?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:32 pm#185, xis,
Bubba Clinton gets a blowjob from Monica, and you giggle over Bush Sr. slapping Teri Hatcher on the ass?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:33 pmCaring Liberal, I’ll see your Chappaquiddick and raise you an Iran-Contra, a George was AWOL, and 6 Cheney deferments. Hey, if you’re going to sling shameless talking points…
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:34 pmBubba Clinton gets a blowjob from Monica, and you giggle over Bush Sr. slapping Teri Hatcher on the ass?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Well its certainly more current than Newt cheating on his wife, or Rep. Bob Livingston cheating on his wife while castigating Clinton.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:36 pm#190, Joe,
Of course, child molestors / statutory rapists should be prosecuted.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 pmI would prefer that Gore spread his message by example, taking public airlines would be a good start instead of private jet.
How about George do the same on his record vacations to Crawford at public expense?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 pmGoddamn right! I don’t hold anything back from the obvious pawns of cowardly liberals - I’ve had to face down countless individuals who hold “victim status†with the liberals, thinking they hold moral authority over me. Bah! There is only one way to dispatch them - quickly and decisively - allowing them to scream victim as their only resort. After awhile, their tactic loses affect, so that they can’t use it anymore, which is why/how libs have lost power in this country.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 2, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
Ah, yes. They are obviously pawns. Just like all of the veterans in higher office right now who are, on the whole, in support of the Democrats and see military action as a last resort. Just like the multitude of Vietnam vets who came back from that war and joined the protests. Just like the countless vets from countless wars over the centuries who’ve come back from the horrific violence of war, and wanted to then end as much war as they could. To prevent others from having to experience the horrors, commit the atrocities, be privy to the darkest side of humanity. Yeah, all those poor pawns wanting better, more peaceful lives for their friends and families.
As for your “tactic”, it is a pathetic, intellectually shallow, fear-based plow. You do not “debate”. You do not present your argument and then debate the rebuttals on their merits. You do not attempt honest discourse, and are quick to rely on ad hominems. The strawmen you build would have made the Colossus jealous at the sheer size of each, and frightened of the number present. You do not even argue. You simply attempt to scream loudest, and drown everyone else out.
Repetition and volume do not a convincing argument make.
Get a new shtick.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 pm“I would prefer that Gore spread his message by example, taking public airlines would be a good start instead of private jet.”
…and I would would prefer that swaths of polar ice caps the size of Texas weren’t disappearing on a regular basis….time is short and if he can reach more people flying privately, he should.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 pmI can’t believe that a radio show host being misquoted has gone this far. As a Democrat this makes me sick to see people we elected running with a comment that was taken out of context. It shows me that we have some very corupt politicans that are being used to do moveon.orgs dirty work. I recently watched “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” again and it fits into what is happening right now in Washington. We have massive corruption from the far left that is affecting mainstream Democrats. It is embarassing and painfully obvious what is going on. It is giving the right plenty of fodder for the next election.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 pm#195, Xis,
I would like to know what they were saying to each other to prompt Sr. to smack Teri on the ass. From a distance, it seems inappropriate, but it could be harmless.
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:38 pmWASHINGTON (AP) — Federal employees wasted at least $146 million over a one-year period in business- or first-class airline tickets bought in violation of travel policies, congressional investigators say.
How about that Air Travel uncaring conservative?
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:38 pmRepublican Mayor Jim West
championed an anti-gay agenda,
but was later found to be gay himself
The hypocrite party…
October 2nd, 2007 at 10:40 pmAh, yes. They are obviously pawns. Just like all of the veterans in higher office right now who are, on the whole, in support of the Democrats and see military action as a last resort. Just like the multitude of Vietnam vets who came back from that war and joined the protests. Just like the countless vets from countless wars over the centuries who’ve come back from the horrific violence of war, and wanted to then end as much war as they could. To prevent others from having to experience the horrors, commit the atrocities, be privy to the darkest side of humanity. Yeah, all those poor pawns wanting better, more peaceful lives for their friends and families.
As for your “tacticâ€, it is a pathetic, intellectually shallow, fear-based plow. You do not “debateâ€. You do not present your argument and then debate the rebuttals on their merits. You do not attempt honest discourse, and are quick to rely on ad hominems. The strawmen you build would have made the Colossus jealous at the sheer size of each, and frightened of the number present. You do not even argue. You simply attempt to scream loudest, and drown everyone else out.
Repetition and volume