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	<title>Comments on: Limbaugh Compares Purple Heart Recipient In Vote Vets Ad To A Suicide Bomber</title>
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		<title>By: huckupchuck</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/limbaugh-vote-vets/comment-page-11/#comment-4105846</link>
		<dc:creator>huckupchuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rush is disingenuous and so are the Dittoheads who defend him.  I can&#039;t believe anyone with a shred of common sense would think otherwise.  What is disingenuous about Rush is that he cultivates a narrative about subjects that is clear to most people, but then he hedges on that narrative with subtle escape hatches.  gummitch&#039;s post at #26 is perhaps the best summary of this tactic.  With regard to the &quot;phony soldiers&quot; comment, Rush has created a narrative that implies a generalization that any soldier who criticizes the war some kind of &quot;phony soldier.&quot;  The later claim that he was referring only to soldiers who &quot;fabricate&quot; the details of their service is an out that allows Limbaugh to deny the narrative all the while employing it.  He did the same with his follow up comment regarding McGough&#039;s service, calling him a true soldier, while at the same time insulting him as a dupe and equating him with the enemy (suicide bomber).  We all know, if we are honest with ourselves, that Rush&#039;s &quot;phony soldiers&quot; meme extends beyond the Jesse MacBeths to all war critics who are also war veterans like McGough, Murtha, Kerry, etc.  And we can rest assured that the Dittoheads clearly know this, too.  Take &quot;rory,&quot; for instance, who wants us to believe the Limbaugh explanation of what &quot;phony soldiers&quot; literally means (i.e. the Jesse MacBeths of the world) until it applies to someone like Jack Murtha.  Whatever Jack Murtha is, he has certainly not fabricated his military service like Jesse MacBeth did.  So even &quot;rory&quot; is admitting that there are at least two meanings of &quot;phony soldiers.&quot;  And this is part of the Dittoheads&#039; disingenuousness about this whole affair, too.  More troubling, though about this disingenuous among the Dittoheads is that they not only refuse to accept this obvious aspect of Rush&#039;s modus operandi, but that they also defend Rush (as &quot;rory&quot; has done) through spurious dissembling when they&#039;d scoff at a liberal politician or pundit attempting to do the same (i.e. Kerry&#039;s botched &quot;Without education, you get stuck in Iraq&quot; joke about Bush).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rush is disingenuous and so are the Dittoheads who defend him.  I can&#8217;t believe anyone with a shred of common sense would think otherwise.  What is disingenuous about Rush is that he cultivates a narrative about subjects that is clear to most people, but then he hedges on that narrative with subtle escape hatches.  gummitch&#8217;s post at #26 is perhaps the best summary of this tactic.  With regard to the &#8220;phony soldiers&#8221; comment, Rush has created a narrative that implies a generalization that any soldier who criticizes the war some kind of &#8220;phony soldier.&#8221;  The later claim that he was referring only to soldiers who &#8220;fabricate&#8221; the details of their service is an out that allows Limbaugh to deny the narrative all the while employing it.  He did the same with his follow up comment regarding McGough&#8217;s service, calling him a true soldier, while at the same time insulting him as a dupe and equating him with the enemy (suicide bomber).  We all know, if we are honest with ourselves, that Rush&#8217;s &#8220;phony soldiers&#8221; meme extends beyond the Jesse MacBeths to all war critics who are also war veterans like McGough, Murtha, Kerry, etc.  And we can rest assured that the Dittoheads clearly know this, too.  Take &#8220;rory,&#8221; for instance, who wants us to believe the Limbaugh explanation of what &#8220;phony soldiers&#8221; literally means (i.e. the Jesse MacBeths of the world) until it applies to someone like Jack Murtha.  Whatever Jack Murtha is, he has certainly not fabricated his military service like Jesse MacBeth did.  So even &#8220;rory&#8221; is admitting that there are at least two meanings of &#8220;phony soldiers.&#8221;  And this is part of the Dittoheads&#8217; disingenuousness about this whole affair, too.  More troubling, though about this disingenuous among the Dittoheads is that they not only refuse to accept this obvious aspect of Rush&#8217;s modus operandi, but that they also defend Rush (as &#8220;rory&#8221; has done) through spurious dissembling when they&#8217;d scoff at a liberal politician or pundit attempting to do the same (i.e. Kerry&#8217;s botched &#8220;Without education, you get stuck in Iraq&#8221; joke about Bush).<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4105846', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lora</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/limbaugh-vote-vets/comment-page-11/#comment-4104613</link>
		<dc:creator>Lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatives want everyone to be successful and have a life of independence from total government control. 
Comment by MaverickCoast â€” October 3, 2007 @ 11:27 am

Maybe that&#039;s what true conservatives want.  But Busheviks and Bush followers have no trouble with warrantless wiretapping, reading people&#039;s e-mail, searching their homes without a warrant, etc.  Speaking of government control, eh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatives want everyone to be successful and have a life of independence from total government control.<br />
Comment by MaverickCoast â€” October 3, 2007 @ 11:27 am</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s what true conservatives want.  But Busheviks and Bush followers have no trouble with warrantless wiretapping, reading people&#8217;s e-mail, searching their homes without a warrant, etc.  Speaking of government control, eh!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4104613', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hterrya</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/limbaugh-vote-vets/comment-page-11/#comment-4103994</link>
		<dc:creator>hterrya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides, McGough obviously doesnâ€™t know what Rush said or meant by the phrase â€œphoney soldiersâ€. Obviously, neither do you.
&lt;em&gt;Comment by MaverickCoast â€” October 3, 2007 @ 2:05 pm&lt;/em&gt;

Rush can set McGough &quot;straight.&quot;  Write Rush and urge him to have McGough on his program.  

You are one of his &quot;dittoheads,&quot; surely he will listen to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides, McGough obviously doesnâ€™t know what Rush said or meant by the phrase â€œphoney soldiersâ€. Obviously, neither do you.<br />
<em>Comment by MaverickCoast â€” October 3, 2007 @ 2:05 pm</em></p>
<p>Rush can set McGough &#8220;straight.&#8221;  Write Rush and urge him to have McGough on his program.  </p>
<p>You are one of his &#8220;dittoheads,&#8221; surely he will listen to you!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4103994', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hterrya</title>
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		<dc:creator>hterrya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I know is, when Democratâ€™s are in control, I end up bringing LESS money home... 
&lt;em&gt;Comment by MaverickCoast â€” October 3, 2007 @ 2:16 pm&lt;/em&gt;

If your making less, and want to make less still, volunteer to be one of the troops you &lt;em&gt;say&lt;/em&gt; you support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I know is, when Democratâ€™s are in control, I end up bringing LESS money home&#8230;<br />
<em>Comment by MaverickCoast â€” October 3, 2007 @ 2:16 pm</em></p>
<p>If your making less, and want to make less still, volunteer to be one of the troops you <em>say</em> you support.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4103989', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MaverickCoast</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/limbaugh-vote-vets/comment-page-11/#comment-4103968</link>
		<dc:creator>MaverickCoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;When I think of our government, I think of the phrase â€œâ€¦of the people, by the people, and for the people.â€ You donâ€™t. That says more about you and Rush and the other trolls polluting this site than anything I can think of.

Comment by hterrya&lt;/em&gt;

If you read what the framers wrote, they DIDN&#039;T envision a government that had control over our lives and a government that would act as a redistribution &quot;center&quot; that takes money from one person to give to another all in the name of &quot;fairness&quot;.

All I know is, when Democrat&#039;s are in control, I end up bringing LESS money home (and I am in the lower middle class!). You know, the class of people Democrats &lt;strong&gt;SAY&lt;/strong&gt; they are for!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>When I think of our government, I think of the phrase â€œâ€¦of the people, by the people, and for the people.â€ You donâ€™t. That says more about you and Rush and the other trolls polluting this site than anything I can think of.</p>
<p>Comment by hterrya</em></p>
<p>If you read what the framers wrote, they DIDN&#8217;T envision a government that had control over our lives and a government that would act as a redistribution &#8220;center&#8221; that takes money from one person to give to another all in the name of &#8220;fairness&#8221;.</p>
<p>All I know is, when Democrat&#8217;s are in control, I end up bringing LESS money home (and I am in the lower middle class!). You know, the class of people Democrats <strong>SAY</strong> they are for!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4103968', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MaverickCoast</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/limbaugh-vote-vets/comment-page-11/#comment-4103946</link>
		<dc:creator>MaverickCoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Brian McGough doesnâ€™t appear to agree with you. He is one of the troops and seems to know. Your opinion comes from someone who has not fought in Iraq. Neither has Rush.

Comment by hterrya&lt;/em&gt;

Rush &lt;strong&gt;has&lt;/strong&gt; bothered to travel to Iraq and Afganistan to see the troops and what&#039;s going on, so I wouldn&#039;t exactly say that he is making comments without any knowledge of what it&#039;s really like over there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Brian McGough doesnâ€™t appear to agree with you. He is one of the troops and seems to know. Your opinion comes from someone who has not fought in Iraq. Neither has Rush.</p>
<p>Comment by hterrya</em></p>
<p>Rush <strong>has</strong> bothered to travel to Iraq and Afganistan to see the troops and what&#8217;s going on, so I wouldn&#8217;t exactly say that he is making comments without any knowledge of what it&#8217;s really like over there.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4103946', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MaverickCoast</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/limbaugh-vote-vets/comment-page-11/#comment-4103930</link>
		<dc:creator>MaverickCoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Letâ€™s see, you, the rest of the trolls, and drug addicted Rush Limbaugh, none of whom have even been to Iraq, versus Brian McGough.

Wow, that isnâ€™t even close.

Brian McGough wins. You lose, again.

Comment by hterrya&lt;/em&gt;

Hmm. &lt;strong&gt;You and your pals didn&#039;t seem to mind ignoring a four star generals tesitmony&lt;/strong&gt; who knows more about what&#039;s going on in Iraq than anyone else. I would bet that the General knows EVEN MORE than McGough.

Calling the kettle &quot;black&quot; AGAIN!

Besides, McGough obviously doesn&#039;t know what Rush said or meant by the phrase &quot;phoney soldiers&quot;. Obviously, neither do you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Letâ€™s see, you, the rest of the trolls, and drug addicted Rush Limbaugh, none of whom have even been to Iraq, versus Brian McGough.</p>
<p>Wow, that isnâ€™t even close.</p>
<p>Brian McGough wins. You lose, again.</p>
<p>Comment by hterrya</em></p>
<p>Hmm. <strong>You and your pals didn&#8217;t seem to mind ignoring a four star generals tesitmony</strong> who knows more about what&#8217;s going on in Iraq than anyone else. I would bet that the General knows EVEN MORE than McGough.</p>
<p>Calling the kettle &#8220;black&#8221; AGAIN!</p>
<p>Besides, McGough obviously doesn&#8217;t know what Rush said or meant by the phrase &#8220;phoney soldiers&#8221;. Obviously, neither do you.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4103930', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hterrya</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/limbaugh-vote-vets/comment-page-11/#comment-4103566</link>
		<dc:creator>hterrya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back  to the topic of this thread, no thanks to the trolls:

Brian McGough wins. Rush loses, again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back  to the topic of this thread, no thanks to the trolls:</p>
<p>Brian McGough wins. Rush loses, again.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4103566', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hterrya</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/limbaugh-vote-vets/comment-page-11/#comment-4103452</link>
		<dc:creator>hterrya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You canâ€™t support the troops and be against what they are fighting for!

&lt;em&gt;Comment by MaverickCoast â€” October 3, 2007 @ 11:04 am&lt;/em&gt;

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it.  But, it is just your opinion.

Brian McGough doesn&#039;t appear to agree with you.  He is one of the troops and seems to know.  Your opinion comes from someone who has not fought in Iraq.  Neither has Rush.

Let&#039;s see, you, the rest of the trolls, and drug addicted Rush Limbaugh, none of whom have even &lt;em&gt;been&lt;/em&gt; to Iraq, versus Brian McGough.  

Wow, that isn&#039;t even close.

Brian McGough wins.  You lose, again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You canâ€™t support the troops and be against what they are fighting for!</p>
<p><em>Comment by MaverickCoast â€” October 3, 2007 @ 11:04 am</em></p>
<p>That is your opinion and you are entitled to it.  But, it is just your opinion.</p>
<p>Brian McGough doesn&#8217;t appear to agree with you.  He is one of the troops and seems to know.  Your opinion comes from someone who has not fought in Iraq.  Neither has Rush.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see, you, the rest of the trolls, and drug addicted Rush Limbaugh, none of whom have even <em>been</em> to Iraq, versus Brian McGough.  </p>
<p>Wow, that isn&#8217;t even close.</p>
<p>Brian McGough wins.  You lose, again.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4103452', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hterrya</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/limbaugh-vote-vets/comment-page-11/#comment-4103410</link>
		<dc:creator>hterrya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberals want you to be totally dependent upon the government (them) forever. 
&lt;em&gt;Comment by MaverickCoast â€” October 3, 2007 @ 11:27 am&lt;/em&gt;

When I think of our government, I think of the phrase &quot;...of the people, by the people, and for the people.&quot;  You don&#039;t.  That says more about you and Rush and the other trolls polluting this site than anything I can think of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals want you to be totally dependent upon the government (them) forever.<br />
<em>Comment by MaverickCoast â€” October 3, 2007 @ 11:27 am</em></p>
<p>When I think of our government, I think of the phrase &#8220;&#8230;of the people, by the people, and for the people.&#8221;  You don&#8217;t.  That says more about you and Rush and the other trolls polluting this site than anything I can think of.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4103410', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hterrya</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/limbaugh-vote-vets/comment-page-11/#comment-4103388</link>
		<dc:creator>hterrya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youâ€™re not really offended by profanity, youâ€™re interested in censoring those that oppose you.

&lt;em&gt;Comment by CaptainMantastic â€” October 3, 2007 @ 11:18 am&lt;/em&gt;

You don&#039;t know me, just as Rush doesn&#039;t know Brian McGough, an Iraq war veteran who received the Purple Heart.

But you and Rush are always full of bloated, bullying rants.

You say you oppose me.  That is a relief, having someone with your attitudes &quot;on my side&quot; would worry me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youâ€™re not really offended by profanity, youâ€™re interested in censoring those that oppose you.</p>
<p><em>Comment by CaptainMantastic â€” October 3, 2007 @ 11:18 am</em></p>
<p>You don&#8217;t know me, just as Rush doesn&#8217;t know Brian McGough, an Iraq war veteran who received the Purple Heart.</p>
<p>But you and Rush are always full of bloated, bullying rants.</p>
<p>You say you oppose me.  That is a relief, having someone with your attitudes &#8220;on my side&#8221; would worry me.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4103388', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MaverickCoast</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/limbaugh-vote-vets/comment-page-11/#comment-4103365</link>
		<dc:creator>MaverickCoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Youâ€™re not really offended by profanity, youâ€™re interested in censoring those that oppose you.

Comment by CaptainMantastic&lt;/em&gt;

Captain, &lt;strong&gt;welcome to the world of Liberals&lt;/strong&gt;...say that you&#039;re all inclusive and tolerant but censor the ones that don&#039;t agree with you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Youâ€™re not really offended by profanity, youâ€™re interested in censoring those that oppose you.</p>
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<p>Captain, <strong>welcome to the world of Liberals</strong>&#8230;say that you&#8217;re all inclusive and tolerant but censor the ones that don&#8217;t agree with you!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4103365', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MaverickCoast</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaverickCoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Believe it or not, I was a liberal back in Junior High Schoolâ€¦then I got a job during High School, started paying taxes, started paying attention, and became a Conservative.

Iâ€™ve got decades of conservative education under my belt, and I am completely comfortable with my beliefs.

Conservatism it the epitome of thinking for, and relying upon, oneself.

Liberalism is the epitome of collective thinking and mob rule.

Comment by O. Bigfoot&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Great post, Bigfoot!&lt;/strong&gt; 

I like for people to understand Conservatism this way:

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime!

I think that pretty much separates us from Liberals. Liberals want you to be &lt;strong&gt;totally&lt;/strong&gt; dependent upon the government (them) forever. Conservatives want everyone to be successful and have a life of independence from total government control. 

Kind of sounds like what our Constitution says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Believe it or not, I was a liberal back in Junior High Schoolâ€¦then I got a job during High School, started paying taxes, started paying attention, and became a Conservative.</p>
<p>Iâ€™ve got decades of conservative education under my belt, and I am completely comfortable with my beliefs.</p>
<p>Conservatism it the epitome of thinking for, and relying upon, oneself.</p>
<p>Liberalism is the epitome of collective thinking and mob rule.</p>
<p>Comment by O. Bigfoot</em></p>
<p><strong>Great post, Bigfoot!</strong> </p>
<p>I like for people to understand Conservatism this way:</p>
<p>Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime!</p>
<p>I think that pretty much separates us from Liberals. Liberals want you to be <strong>totally</strong> dependent upon the government (them) forever. Conservatives want everyone to be successful and have a life of independence from total government control. </p>
<p>Kind of sounds like what our Constitution says.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4103356', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MaverickCoast</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I believe Rush is no longer worth wasting time over. Heâ€™s a bigoted windbag whose audience consists of people who are comfortable in their narrow-mindedness and donâ€™t want to have to think for themselves. 

Comment by missmolly â€” October 3, 2007 @ 9:10 am&lt;/em&gt;

Oh, isn&#039;t that rich? Coming from the side of the isle who gets their MARCHING ORDERS from MoveON(and destroy the country).org and (Left Wing)Media Matters.

Liberals can&#039;t win with their ideas, so they must force them on people with out them knowing it. Have you ever seen a Liberal politician go out and campaign on what they really think, ie. what they are REALLY gonna do when they get into office? Of course not. Except for a few whacked out areas of the country (San Francisco to name one) Liberals loose every time.

missmolly, if rejecting behavior by the likes of San Francisco is narrowed-mindness, count me in as being a &lt;strong&gt;proud&lt;/strong&gt; narrow-minded person!

Liberalism will destroy this country as we know it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I believe Rush is no longer worth wasting time over. Heâ€™s a bigoted windbag whose audience consists of people who are comfortable in their narrow-mindedness and donâ€™t want to have to think for themselves. </p>
<p>Comment by missmolly â€” October 3, 2007 @ 9:10 am</em></p>
<p>Oh, isn&#8217;t that rich? Coming from the side of the isle who gets their MARCHING ORDERS from MoveON(and destroy the country).org and (Left Wing)Media Matters.</p>
<p>Liberals can&#8217;t win with their ideas, so they must force them on people with out them knowing it. Have you ever seen a Liberal politician go out and campaign on what they really think, ie. what they are REALLY gonna do when they get into office? Of course not. Except for a few whacked out areas of the country (San Francisco to name one) Liberals loose every time.</p>
<p>missmolly, if rejecting behavior by the likes of San Francisco is narrowed-mindness, count me in as being a <strong>proud</strong> narrow-minded person!</p>
<p>Liberalism will destroy this country as we know it!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4103324', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MaverickCoast</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/limbaugh-vote-vets/comment-page-11/#comment-4103285</link>
		<dc:creator>MaverickCoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest you Lefties quit on this subject before you make Rush look like a Saint! Must we get out the transcripts of what the Left has said about our troops? And you have the cajones to even try to suggest Rush is against the men and women of the military?

To question Rush&#039;s patriotism and deep, sincere, respect for ALL who have served and are serving, shows an ignorance of the truth about Rush. I&#039;ve listened to him for years and he shows more respect for the troops in ONE SHOW&lt;strong&gt;than the Left EVER HAS!!&lt;/strong&gt; 

Where was McGough getting his information? If McGough bothered to listen to Rush he wouldn&#039;t be saying the things he&#039;s saying. McGough seems to me that he either ill-informed or another character assassin put out there by the Left.

I&#039;ve seen many organizations and famous figures &lt;strong&gt;ON THE RIGHT&lt;/strong&gt; show their appreciation and even fund raise for issues of the military. Shaun Hannity, just to name one, had numerous events to raise money for scholarships for those children who had a parent killed while serving.

When do you EVER see the Left out there SUPPORTING OUR TROOPS, TALKING ABOUT THEM POSITIVELY, ENCOURAGING THEM TO THEIR SUCCEED IN THEIR MISSION(S), etc., etc...

Democrats have done nothing but BASH the military, crirticize them, call them cold-blooded killers, compare them to some of the most ruthless killers in history, and worse yet, Democrats/the Left have provided aid, comfort, and propaganda to the enemy to make our troop&#039;s mission even MORE difficult to achieve! &lt;strong&gt;Democrats have been saying the war is lost practically from day one, and worse yet, they are doing it &lt;em&gt;TO SCORE POLITICAL POINTS AND TO DENY A VICTORY TO THE TROOPS AND GEORGE BUSH!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

Some of you may not feel that way, but the ones who lead the Democrat Party and the Left have NO USE for the military, thus they are anxious to find a &quot;whipping boy&quot; on the Right to &lt;strong&gt;TRY &lt;/strong&gt;to point out the RIGHT doesn&#039;t really like the military either!

&lt;strong&gt;You can&#039;t support the troops and be against what they are fighting for!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest you Lefties quit on this subject before you make Rush look like a Saint! Must we get out the transcripts of what the Left has said about our troops? And you have the cajones to even try to suggest Rush is against the men and women of the military?</p>
<p>To question Rush&#8217;s patriotism and deep, sincere, respect for ALL who have served and are serving, shows an ignorance of the truth about Rush. I&#8217;ve listened to him for years and he shows more respect for the troops in ONE SHOW<strong>than the Left EVER HAS!!</strong> </p>
<p>Where was McGough getting his information? If McGough bothered to listen to Rush he wouldn&#8217;t be saying the things he&#8217;s saying. McGough seems to me that he either ill-informed or another character assassin put out there by the Left.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen many organizations and famous figures <strong>ON THE RIGHT</strong> show their appreciation and even fund raise for issues of the military. Shaun Hannity, just to name one, had numerous events to raise money for scholarships for those children who had a parent killed while serving.</p>
<p>When do you EVER see the Left out there SUPPORTING OUR TROOPS, TALKING ABOUT THEM POSITIVELY, ENCOURAGING THEM TO THEIR SUCCEED IN THEIR MISSION(S), etc., etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Democrats have done nothing but BASH the military, crirticize them, call them cold-blooded killers, compare them to some of the most ruthless killers in history, and worse yet, Democrats/the Left have provided aid, comfort, and propaganda to the enemy to make our troop&#8217;s mission even MORE difficult to achieve! <strong>Democrats have been saying the war is lost practically from day one, and worse yet, they are doing it <em>TO SCORE POLITICAL POINTS AND TO DENY A VICTORY TO THE TROOPS AND GEORGE BUSH!</em></strong></p>
<p>Some of you may not feel that way, but the ones who lead the Democrat Party and the Left have NO USE for the military, thus they are anxious to find a &#8220;whipping boy&#8221; on the Right to <strong>TRY </strong>to point out the RIGHT doesn&#8217;t really like the military either!</p>
<p><strong>You can&#8217;t support the troops and be against what they are fighting for!</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4103285', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bilbobaggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>bilbobaggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Comment by Tampachessdon â€” October 3, 2007 @ 9:25 am&lt;/em&gt;

Nice &quot;cut and paste&quot; Right Wing Loon.  What&#039;s the matter, don&#039;t you have anything original to say.  Do you plan on pasting this rant on every thread that is posted today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Comment by Tampachessdon â€” October 3, 2007 @ 9:25 am</em></p>
<p>Nice &#8220;cut and paste&#8221; Right Wing Loon.  What&#8217;s the matter, don&#8217;t you have anything original to say.  Do you plan on pasting this rant on every thread that is posted today?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4103071', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bilbobaggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>bilbobaggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s with the count on this thread.  On the opening page it says there are 545 posts, but the thread shows the count to be in the high 300&#039;s.  Did TP have a ball last night deleting posts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s with the count on this thread.  On the opening page it says there are 545 posts, but the thread shows the count to be in the high 300&#8217;s.  Did TP have a ball last night deleting posts?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4103068', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bilbobaggins</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/02/limbaugh-vote-vets/comment-page-11/#comment-4102996</link>
		<dc:creator>bilbobaggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked back today to see if michael ever backed up his assertion that the left used his so-called &quot;phony soldiers&quot; as posterboys, and guess what....  He didn&#039;t.  I don&#039;t think I have ever seen michael back up any of the drivel he posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked back today to see if michael ever backed up his assertion that the left used his so-called &#8220;phony soldiers&#8221; as posterboys, and guess what&#8230;.  He didn&#8217;t.  I don&#8217;t think I have ever seen michael back up any of the drivel he posts.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4102996', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Guido OBGYN Lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guido OBGYN Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rush is important because what he does, along with FOX, is illegal.
They propagandise for one party. And they lie when they do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rush is important because what he does, along with FOX, is illegal.<br />
They propagandise for one party. And they lie when they do it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4102987', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: missmolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>missmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Rush is no longer worth wasting time over.  He&#039;s a bigoted windbag whose audience consists of people who are comfortable in their narrow-mindedness and don&#039;t want to have to think for themselves.  Rush fans will lap up everything he says without question, and defend him no matter how bizarre their rationale must be to do so.  No Rush fan is ever going to say &quot;Rush went too far this time.&quot;

What IS a concern is that both left and right now seem to be mired in a contest to see who can accuse the other of the most &quot;attacks on the troops&quot;.  This is pointless, unproductive, polarizing, and is too much like a childish playground fight.  I think the end-of-recess bell has rung.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Rush is no longer worth wasting time over.  He&#8217;s a bigoted windbag whose audience consists of people who are comfortable in their narrow-mindedness and don&#8217;t want to have to think for themselves.  Rush fans will lap up everything he says without question, and defend him no matter how bizarre their rationale must be to do so.  No Rush fan is ever going to say &#8220;Rush went too far this time.&#8221;</p>
<p>What IS a concern is that both left and right now seem to be mired in a contest to see who can accuse the other of the most &#8220;attacks on the troops&#8221;.  This is pointless, unproductive, polarizing, and is too much like a childish playground fight.  I think the end-of-recess bell has rung.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4102983', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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