‘The Decider’ boasts again.
‘The Decider’ boasts again.
During the course of an hour-long speech today, President Bush used the word “decisions” — or a derivative of it — at least 30 times. At the outset of his speech, “the decider” (aka “the decision-maker” and “commander guy“) declared:
My job is a decision-making job. And as a result, I make a lot of decisions. And it’s important for me to have an opportunity to speak to you and others who would be listening about the basis on which I have made decisions, to explain the philosophy behind some of the decisions I have made.
Watch it:
The AP writes he elaborated more on that point later in his rambling speech:
”I delegate to good people. I always tell Condi Rice, ‘I want to remind you, Madam Secretary, who has the Ph.D. and who was the C student. And I want to remind you who the adviser is and who the president is.’
”I got a lot of Ph.D.-types and smart people around me who come into the Oval Office and say, ‘Mr. President, here’s what’s on my mind.’ And I listen carefully to their advice. But having gathered the device (sic), I decide, you know, I say, ‘This is what we’re going to do.’ And it’s ‘Yes, sir, Mr. President.’ And then we get after it, implement policy.”
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October 3rd, 2007 at 6:30 pmI think Bush is feeling less the decider guy, and more the lame duck he is. Must be tough to go from the most popular president of all time, to the village idiot.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:30 pmPlease make it stop. Please.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:31 pmIs that what he thinks is happening? How cute.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:31 pmâ€I got a lot of Ph.D.-types and smart people around me who come into the Oval Office and say, ‘Mr. President, here’s what’s on my mind.’ And I listen carefully to their advice.
*****What a pile of BS.The guy has a one track mind.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:32 pmTo bad he is impotent when it comes to matters of truth… I suspect he practices his speeches in front of one of those fairy tale mirrors that say “oh George, you are the most important decider in the kingdom”.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:33 pmPass the barf bag. I’m gonna hurl.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:34 pmWhat he fails to tell the audience is how many decisions of his have been wise ones. That number would be around zero.
Anyone can make decisions – we do it all day long. The fact is he has botched major decisions which have resulted in the denigration of this country.
If I were him, I’d hardly boast about what a decision maker I am when the facts stack up to prove that he’s far from having the ability to make wise, good, or even prudent decisions during his entire term of office.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:34 pmThis is ‘BUSH BRAINWASHING 101′ – COMING TO YOUR NEAREST TOWN SOON! (Pass me a barf bag, too, please).
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:35 pmRory, dearest, it’s not that we don’t understand that he makes decisions. Please, that’s just stupid.
On the contrary, sweetbuns, it’s just that we think that his decisions run the gamut from incredibly stupid to absolutely heartless.
Get the diff, sweetie?
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:35 pmHis buddies on his side of the aisle must either be laughing their hineys off or running as far away from this toxic gent as possible if they are running for re-election. This is comic relief at it’s finest.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:36 pmBush is becoming totally toxic both to this country in general (how do his handlers and shrinks permit him to be out there displaying his profound delusion?). Get this guy some meds quick! And what’s really scary is that he does it with a smile on his face.
Guess that’s the sign of a true psychopath. He doesn’t know that he doesn’t know. He also doesn’t know that the world is laughing at him. Sad.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:38 pmWe know he’s stupid and now he feels the need to tell us why.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:38 pmRory, sweetheart…*has* he “taken out the Taliban”…?
I think NOT.
Try again.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:38 pmThis proves that Bush is “unconsciously incompetent” which is about the lowest mental function possible.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:39 pmI think Bush has made plenty of wise decisions (two of them are sitting on the U.S. Supreme Court).
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:36 pm
You are also a rightwing loon, whose thinking is suspect. What is your point?
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:39 pmRory, take your meds and try to stay on topic. I know it’s difficult for you but please try. Thank you.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:39 pmMust be how he makes energy policy. Phd’s can be such pencilnecks! (not that I don’t identify with the 2.9 GPA…)
I suppose it’s all about the money…
-M
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:39 pmI see our village moron is sadly attempting to engage anyone and everyone he can on this thread. Talking about human jokes….
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:40 pmYa, he sounds like a guy who listens..!
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:40 pmNow that is not what the author Draper said from his interviews with Bush. Bush demands servility from all his aides. He has a volitol temper so either they are afraid to approach him or they use flattery to begin their conversations so he doesn’t get mad.
Makes me want to work for this guy. In fact Josh Bolton begins the day with “thank you for allowing me to serve at your pleasure” surely this can’t be true.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:40 pmWhy, yes, Rory. I call that REALITY.
Too bad you can’t see it.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:40 pmBush’s decision to not finish off the taliban, and capture Bin Laden was incredibly stupid.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:40 pmThe only point a lowly troll CAN make is the point at the top of their head. Clearly, they have nothing on the positive side of their ledger to boast about so hijacking becomes their MO. Ignore the troll and they’ll slime themselves into the nearest corner.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:41 pmYou know, the way he describes, I almost get the impression that he is not taking the advice he gets from the “Ph.D.-types and smart people around” him. That’s why his decisions are so incredibly bad. I shouldn’t say that. He did listen to Karl, but that’s just another reason why his decisions were so bad. Here’s hoping the Supreme Court stays healthy as long as this “idiotic decision” maker is in office.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:41 pmAs we saw in February if his advisors do not agree with him, he simply fires them. Get a new General what the hell. Now why would we doubt Gen Petraues report? Could be he needs a few more years to get that chunky retirement?
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:43 pmA moron as decider, America has never been in such sad shape, and my generation let this happen.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:44 pmSo, taking out the Taliban was which one: “incredibly stupid†or “absolutely heartless�
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
Incredibly unsuccessful, heartlessly snafued. Osama says hi, by the way.
rightards are so easily manipulated.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:45 pmBush admits to a C grade however he made a score of 25 on his exam for a pilot. C could be a stretch.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:45 pmHis decisions have often been poorly made. That would be the problem. Now Bush is insisting like a spoiled 4 year old, that he decides. Perhaps President temper tantrum needs a time out.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:45 pmWhy, Rory, aren’t you going to tell me about how the Taliban has been completely obliterated in Afghanistan vis-a-vis our Beloved Leader and Decider Guy’s oh-so-wise decisions……..?
I was soooooo looking forward to that. Damn.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:45 pmThe boy-king.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:45 pmHe really is a fourth grader in the Oval office.
I know plenty of fourth graders who are better than Bush. And they are innocent children!
He is incredibly stupid, and he is guilty of war crimes, he is guilty of hubris, arrogance, greed, selfishness, and, like the schoolyard bully — he lets everyone know that he is King of the Mountain.
What an insufferable oaf.
I thought the “topic†was liberal upset about Bush boasting about being the Decider? I was trying to understand exactly what there is to be upset about that.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:43 pm
Because it’s embarrassing to the whole country to be represented by an idiot. Only another idiot like you could fail to see that.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:46 pmI like where this moron mentions “PhD types” since he hasn’t a clue about what the credential means. How he ever made it through college is a miracle but then, money moves mountains and garners college degrees, too.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:46 pmHow he ever made it through college is a miracle but then, money moves mountains and garners college degrees, too.
Comment by Veritas — October 3, 2007 @ 6:46 pm
it’s not just money, it’s Rich White Trash affirmative action.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:47 pmGuess his formal college degree was from the same mill that his military record came from?? It’s time to get back to those lies he’s paraded as truth, too. The people have not forgotten about all of that.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:47 pmAt least Saddam and the Taliban aren’t still in charge of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:46 pm
Nor is Bush. good job.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:47 pmLeftyPat: right-o!
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:48 pmOh, Rory, Rory, Rory….you foolish, foolish boy (or whatever you are)!
Saddam may be gone, but what we’ve left in Iraq is much worse: Shia death squads busily going about their ethnic cleansing and civil war.
And Karzai is simply a powerless puppet who is damned lucky nobody has assassinated him yet.
Dear me. You’re so naive!
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:49 pmComment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
Bill Clinton will forever be a more popular president then Bush. Sad but true. Sorry Rory, that pig doesn’t fly.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:50 pmThe “delegation” part is also pretty interesting. From every member of his cabinet who has either written a book or commented publicly, they are all consistent with one fact: Bush delegates to no one! After all, if you delegate, then you have to listen to what the experts have to say. This egomaniacal ‘decider’ could never do that.
He fancies himself to be some savvy executive with a board surrounding him of people expert in their fields when the fact is that he sits there totally alone, reading My Pet Goat, and hearing voices which tell him what he needs to do. (Bipolar Disorder with Psychosis?)
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:51 pmNow you know how embarrassing it was for us to be represented by the Pervert-in-Chief.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
Hey, it was your guy that printed all that soft porn. Nobody knew about it until Ken Starr decided that all the nation’s children should know the meaning of blowjob, and, by the way, the embarrassment we felt was because the rest of the world thought that you repigs were ridiculous to even bother with that, like so many repressed little sex police. Not to mention the jealousy raised by the fact that you people even have to pay prostitutes double. I was proud of clinton, and, on top of that, their marriage is still intact. How many of your perverts can say that? The number grows smaller every day.
You lose.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:52 pmdoes anyone feel like they have lost some valuable brain cells listening to the asshat speak? i know i does…i mean do…see, theres they go…there they goes…nevermind.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:52 pmHmmmm, being represented by a man guilty of sexual indiscretion or a retard…. I’ll take the President that oversaw the longest period of economic growth in American history, whereas the village idiot has the dollar where? The dollar is becoming a joke! Nice work W, now go scuffle back under mommy’s skirt.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:54 pmSome claim that Bush jr. is actually a somewhat intelligent guy, but if that’s so, why is that he consistently makes himself look and sound like a bona fide retard?
If it’s just an act, then he deserves an Oscar.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:54 pmRonald Reagan brought down the Soviet Union through proper delegation. Just the HARD decisions rise to the Presidential level.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
You’re a joke, jake, Rayguns was simply in the right place at the right time to get credit for something he had no influence in!
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:56 pmLOL
To anyone paying even a modicum (that’s “moh-dih-kum” to you, Dubya) of attention, this speech explains … or perhaps reveals .. a lot.
But us folks paying sufficient attention have known him to be an eedjit for a long time.
Cheers,
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:57 pmRory,
Ronald Raygun brought down d!ck.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:57 pmYikes, Rory – that must be some reallllllly goooooood shit yer smokin, dude!
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:57 pmRaygun was an idiot
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:58 pmYou probably thought that Reagan was an idiot too, right?
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:56 pm
And you didn’t? That reflects almost as poorly on you, as your slander of Murtha.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:58 pm” But having gathered the device…”
Just what the hell does that mean???? This is more drug-shrouded crap from the drivel-master.
Impeach now, before he pushes the nuclear button.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:59 pm“Makes sense to me, don’t it?” — GWBush –06/06/06
**Bangs head on desk**
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:59 pmRonald Reagan brought down the Soviet Union through proper delegation. Just the HARD decisions rise to the Presidential level.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
So now you’re a professional historian? Because historians completely disagree with you, child. The hard decisions require competence, otherwise you pull a RayGun, and support terrorists in central america, train and fund Taliban/Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and sell arms to Iran – all Ronnie accomplishments…
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:00 pmAt least Saddam and the Taliban aren’t still in charge of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Comment by Rory
Two things before I split:
1) Saddam was a balancing force to irans influence and ambitions. Now that he is gone, the whole ME is in flames.
2) Taliban IS in charge of many parts of Afghanistan and is making Murshariff run scared in pakistan. Pakistan is in real trouble.
My God, don’t you even bother to review the days events (not of faux news) at all? You are an embarassment to thoughtful poeple everywhere. I don’t mean to be dis-respectful, but you have to do a better job of learning about current events before you write things the whole planet might read. Its ok to be simple with your own friends, but do not display your lack of understanding to us here at TP. Please try and learn.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:00 pmThe Decider who Phucks US All (GW Botch) needs to be impeached–1 month after Dick(head) Cheney has been impeached!!!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:00 pmWhat does bush decide? That he will singlehandedly destroy the GOP. Good job, decider! Your mission has been accomplished!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:01 pm#16 Rory:
So, taking out the Taliban was which one: “incredibly stupid†or “absolutely heartless�
Well, if he decides to do that instead of this stoopid and sanguinary occupation of Iraq, perhaps some good might come of it. Time will tell. But I suspect he won’t even try.
Cheers,
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:01 pm“Heh, heh. I decidered this morning that poor American children were going to die because I am stubborn, just like poor Iraqi children.”
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:01 pmThe official White House transcript reads: “But having gathered the advice…â€
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
And the reality is, Bush doesn’t gather any advice that he doesn’t already want to hear – much like you, little girl.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:01 pmThat’s not the embarrassment we Republicans felt about Clinton boinking an innocent intern in the Oval Office. Like I said YMMV.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:55 pm
No, it was envy. And no boinking was done, by the way, and the “innocent” intern admitted that Clinton was her target. You rightards are allergic to facts, aren’t you? Reagan brought down the Soviet Union, that’s a funny one. Speaking of blowjobs, his wife was famous for them throughout Hollywood.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:02 pmI disagree with you, rocks911 (so does Margaret Thatcher).
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
That’s because she took co-credit, also discredited by History.
Politicians often claim victories that aren’t their own, much like trolls.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:02 pmRonald Reagan brought down the Soviet Union through proper delegation. Just the HARD decisions rise to the Presidential level.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
You have never read anything but a gradeschool level history book, have you?
You probably thought that Reagan was an idiot too, right?
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:56 pm
Reagan had Alzheimer’s symptoms before his 2nd term.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:04 pmDo you libs not think that the President of the United States makes decisions? I don’t understand the complaint. Comment by Rory
You mean Rove isnt Bush’s Brain as so mnay conservatives proudly proclaimed?
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:04 pmSorry Rory, but you expertise about RayGun, are as out of place and inaccurate as your smear of Murtha, or defense of the indefensible Rush.
I agree with the esteemed expert, Rory, you’re a child.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:04 pmThe official White House transcript reads: “But having gathered the advice…â€
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
And we all know, having read the news, unlike you, that the White House routinely doctors Herr Bush’s grammatical idiocies, fact-free lies and foolish boasts. It’s been going on for many years, now.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:05 pmAfter reading the ‘high points’ of this speech I’ve come to the following conclusion. Every Democratic member of Congress must be locked in a room with a loop of this speech repeating endlessly for 24 hours. They will then come out and, after recovering from beating themselves senseless, will tirelessly work to Impeach Bush! Not, as I endlessly refrain, to Save the Constitution, but to Salvage Something of our Self Respect as a Nation! Then they’ll Impeach Cheney to Save the Constitution. Finally, they’ll resign en masse out of shame that they’ve been such unmitigated doormats and allowed this to go on!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:05 pmThey did one hell of a job picking the audience for this shindig! Any person with the IQ of a hamster should have been horrified just considering what they were hearing! And the “Liberal Leftist Media” will Never, in 10000 years, touch this story, guaranteed. January 2009, Hurry and Arrive!
How pathetic that the great decider gets to talk to the Lancaster Chamber of Commerce. I suggest he try visiting a fewToastmasters groups, he might at least improve his speaking skills.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:05 pmMargaret Thatcher was/is a punk. All she did was break unions and ship jobs overseas like her retarded American counterpart. Remember the dramatic rise in the homeless under Rayguns administration? Punks both of them.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:06 pmCould we all take up a collection and get Bush a blowjob? Would that work ? He is the worst embarrassement we have ever had. Just tape his damn mouth shut for the rest of the term.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:07 pmOur “childrens” should be very afraid …. very, very, very afraid … and W just has to look into the mirror to see the reason for that fear… Pelosi for President in 07!!!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:07 pmRonald Reagan brought down the Soviet Union through proper delegation. Just the HARD decisions rise to the Presidential level.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
The Vatican had more to do with bringing down the Soviet Union through it’s actions than 1 ONE , yes JUST ONE SENTENCE IN YOUR HOLY REPUGNISCUM RAYGUN SCUM’S SPEECH!!!
ONE SENTENCE IN 1 (ONE) SPEECH BEATS ALL THE VATICANS EFFORTS OVER MANY YEARS?
I DON’T THINK SO….
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:08 pmThe official White House transcript reads: “But having gathered the advice…â€
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
No, it doesn’t. Show us which “official” transcript you’re reading.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:12 pmRonald Reagan brought down the Soviet Union through proper delegation. Just the HARD decisions rise to the Presidential level.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
The Soviet Union spent a lot of resources in a futile invasion of Afghanistan, remember? Killing the local civilians, lots of soldiers dying, billions wasted in a useless war… Sounds familiar?
Oh, and the US trained Osama bin Forgotten in terrorist tactics, in order to attack the Soviet soldiers, too.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:12 pmHehehe.
It is really funny watching Rory defending this ignorant man.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:12 pmSo, Reagan was an “idiot†and Thatcher a “punk� What’s your historical evaluation of Gorbachev and Pope John Paul II?
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:10 pm
I already gave you the evaluation of historians, what politicians claim is as flawed and irrational as what you post. The facts show you are wrong.
The Pope is your source of ‘history’? Hehe, the same guy that denied there was widespread pedestry in the priesthood?
You really do scrape the bottom of the barrel, don’t you little girl?
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:14 pmRonald Reagan brought down the Soviet Union through proper delegation. Just the HARD decisions rise to the Presidential level.
Comment by Rory
Oh, yeah, he singlehandedly stood against 400 millions of Russians, like Napoleon and Hitler couldnt do.
Nevermind the corrupted bureaucreacy that the Soviet Union was… yeah, it was Ronald Reagan, sir!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:14 pmRonald Reagan brought down the Soviet Union ranks right up there with the Brothers Grimm and Hans Christian Anderson.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:14 pmIt is really funny watching Rory defending this ignorant man.
Comment by Juan C. — October 3, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
He’s a Republican. He defends a lot of ignorant men.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:15 pmMoron.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:15 pmLiberty University has a graduate school?
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:16 pmI know we are never going to agree about Saddam (at least not in this lifetime). Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:10 pm
Your former friend, that RayGun sold WMDs to? That Saddam?
My original point was that the Taliban is not in charge of a rouge state anymore (c.f. pre-9/11 blowing up those Budda statues). Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:10 pm
Nope, but they still control large swaths of the country.
How do you think I can know enough to post if I don’t even bother to review the days events (I don’t watch Fox News either)? We disagree about the definition of “embarassment†too. No skin off my nose. Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:10 pm
Well, considering you have no shame, no one ever expects you to be embarrassed by your ridiculous posts! That would require decorum, social skills and an intellect that was beyond that of a 3rd grader!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:16 pmcandyce…great comment. :D
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:17 pmCould anyone come up with even one decision that he has made that has been a good one?
Buck Fush
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:17 pmYou still believe that Clinton never touched Ms. Lewinski? And, I’m the one allergic to facts, yeah right. Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:14 pm
We still believe it’s none of the government, or your business, anymore than whether we believe you’re banging the mailman when your husband isn’t around.
Nope. The books were just a little more advanced in graduate school. What’s your highest degree?
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:14 pm
Graduate school? You? We didn’t realize they homeschooled those degrees, child… Yeah, sorry, but no one believes you’ve finished highschool with your stunted intellect!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:17 pmHehehe.
It is really funny watching Rory defending this ignorant man.
Comment by Juan C. — October 3, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
It is very funny Juan…except that Rory represents the 27% that can’t find the truth and will always support scumbags as long as they are his scumbags!!
Rory type phuck heads are phucking the world into the ground using their massively concentrated ignorance!!!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:17 pmZbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor to Jimmy Carter, predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union way before Reagan ever got into office. In fact the first time was his Masters Thesis in 1950.
Basically, the Soviet Union collapsed under the weight of it’s own government and the cost of the Cold War/Nuke race.
Reagan actually delayed it with his warmongering stance, that the Soviets felt was a threat.
Read some history, rory
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:18 pmRory -I cannot believe your strongest argument against Clinton issex. How old are you anyway ? Bush kills over 3800 of our young for his egotistical war and you are concerned about consensual sex?
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:20 pmIt is very funny Juan…except that Rory represents the 27% that can’t find the truth and will always support scumbags as long as they are his scumbags!! Comment by dixie blood — October 3, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
They can find the truth, they just refuse to pull their heads out of their nether regions long enough to do so. It’s willful delusion.
Rory type phuck heads are phucking the world into the ground using their massively concentrated ignorance!!!
Comment by dixie blood — October 3, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
It’s a case of mass delusion, brought on by fear and a repressive childhood that forces them to seek out overbearing ‘parental’ figures to compensate for their low self esteem. Just dig under Rory’s bed, and you’ll find the demons of an abusive childhood glaring back at you.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:20 pmHurray, hurray… Step right up, folks… The Clown President boasts again. He is still panhandling about his “decision-making” job. Man, President Cheney got his employee working a roadkill speech overtime. Bush is still riding a dead horse on his speeches. The more he speaks, the more that he lets out his ignorance each and everyday.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:20 pmWhat’s your highest degree?
Comment by Rory
Guess Sixth dan.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:21 pmNo, it was envy. And no boinking was done, by the way, and the “innocent†intern admitted that Clinton was her target.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — October 3, 2007 @ 7:02 pm
Lefty Patriot:
You still believe that Clinton never touched Ms. Lewinski? And, I’m the one allergic to facts, yeah right.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:14 pm
Jake… I mean, Rory, can’t find the difference between “no boinking” and “not touching”. Typical black-or-white, us-or-them mentality.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:21 pmI already cited two — Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Sam Alito. Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:19 pm
That’s your evidence? BAHAHAHA, sorry, but embarrassment doesn’t begin to describe what you do to yourself!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:21 pmMy original point was that the Taliban is not in charge of a rouge state anymore (c.f. pre-9/11 blowing up those Budda statues). How do you think I can know enough to post if I don’t even bother to review the days events (I don’t watch Fox News either)? We disagree about the definition of “embarassment†too. No skin off my nose.
Comment by Rory
I certainly agree that we can disagree, but what you write does show where you are coming from (philosophy, not location). The comment you wrote seemed to be not that well thought out IMHO.
Saddam was a bad guy, but he was helpful in keeping Iran’s ambitions in check, to a degree. Now it’s a free for all.
The Taliban are bad guys, but they are not diminished in their ability to topple a government (Pakistan). That makes me more frightened about the whole area. Pakistan has nukes and Mushariff doesn’t seem to be in complete control over there. So I disagree the Taliban doesn’t control a rogue state – I believe they pull lots of levers within the Pakistani government. Now it’s starting to look like a free for all.
BTW, I am glad you don’t watch Fox News. And I do try and be respectful in my comments back and forth. The way you commented on this subject caused me to wonder about whether or not you do check the facts on current events.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:21 pmWhat’s your highest degree?
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:20 pm
You actually want to play the intellectual game with liberals – oh, now that’s funny! The fake, undereducated, poorly informed fake GOP hack, pretending to out-degree and out-intellect liberals! That’s almost too painful to watch little girl! I have to say, S&M must be your fetish, because you sure do have a penchant for putting yourself and everyone that has to watch you pulverized through a lot of pain!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:23 pmRory called Murthy a “Phony Soldier”, she doesn’t deserve a respectful response to anything – hack.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:24 pmWhat’s your highest degree?
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:20 pm
None of your business.
But I can program in machine language, on the fly, if that tells you anything.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:24 pmBut I can program in machine language, on the fly, if that tells you anything.
Comment by Wayne
I tried to do that, and I could not…Very tough stuff. The best I could do was C, C++, and Visual Basic.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:25 pmYeah, Luis, I didn’t have a comeback to such a stupid, self-serving, foolish lie. Typical of the rightards to equate a blowjob with the deaths of 3800 American troops and hundreds of thousands of truly innocent iraqis. shows the depth of their perversion, and the shallowness of their morality. rory think that Bush’s appointment of fascists to SCOTUS is a good thing; that speaks reams about his hatred of the USA and our freedoms.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:26 pmSaddam was a bad guy, but he was helpful in keeping Iran’s ambitions in check, to a degree.
Comment by StratRat — October 3, 2007 @ 7:21 pm
to a degree?
GHW (father of the dumbest person every to serve in government) Botch and Raygun armed Saddam to the teeth to fight against Iran but also Russia
TOO A GREAT DEGREE!!!!!!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:27 pmSee you around, then, StratRat.
Comment by Rory
Very well. I’ll be here.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:27 pmI’m a “her.â€
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
That’s no excuse.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:28 pmStratRat, I agree with your comment and I think you use the term “bad guy” for brevity; however, may I suggest that this “bad guys” and good guys” is somehow the way the US was brought up to this point, where we have a Pres of the greatest superpower in the world, saying there is an AXIS OF EVIL, and every conflict is oversimplified by the use of good guys and bad guys.
Saddam was a terrible dictator supported by CIA in order to destabilize the region, which we all know it is the real job of CIA: destabilize countries.
However, Saddam put Iraq above all Arab countries in terms of education and health services, even winning an UNICEF recognition.
I know you didnt need this sanctimonious speech, but could we please, stop the simplifications and be more insightful?
Hope this doesnt offend you.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:28 pmYou know you’ve won the argument when someone resorts to “my degree is higher than yours.”
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:28 pmJake D Fake
I already cited two — Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Sam Alito.
Comment by Rory
Those two are bad apples, they should have never been let in, your still an idiot with this new persona you are trying to take on.
What’s the matter no one would talk with Jake D Fake anymore?
Buck Fush
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:31 pmI know you didnt need this sanctimonious speech, but could we please, stop the simplifications and be more insightful?
Hope this doesnt offend you.
Comment by Juan C.
No offense taken at all. I’ve read many of your posts and you are a very good blogger. I simplified things for our new friend Rory so she could kind of grasp it in an elementary way. I’ll take what you said to heart.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:31 pmDubja’s hard at it again.
Stop the Dub’ya “Think Tank” (read “propaganda machine).
Go to: www. protectSMU.org
and stop the nonsense.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:31 pmOh, I thought your said you were leaving 1/2 hour ago, StratRat — by all means, please stay and we can continue the debate.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:29 pm
What debate is that? You say something stupid and untrue, and everybody else shoots you down. That’s no debate, that’s you being a masochist, probably the first requirement for following the failure that is Bush and the destruction of his party.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:32 pmBut I can program in machine language, on the fly, if that tells you anything.
Comment by Wayne — October 3, 2007 @ 7:24 pm
That tells me that you should try VB! It’s a hell of a lot easier. LOL Good on you Wayne, that is impressive. I can barely scratch the surface of VB.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:33 pmAnd, you know you’ve won the argument when someone resorts to “you’re not educated, and I am.â€
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:30 pm
Says the person that just made that argument…
Pure hypocrisy, little girl…
That being said, are you saying that if a redneck rube decides to argue particle physics with a physicist, and they point out that he hasn’t studied physics that the rube wins?
Hehe, and now folks, here’s the reason we tell young folks to stay in school! Exhibit A – Miss Rory!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:33 pmI’ll take what you said to heart.
Comment by StratRat
Now I feel like a pretentious above-others prick… :(
It is not my intention to educate anyone about anything.
Thank you for the response.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:33 pmI tried to do that, and I could not…Very tough stuff. The best I could do was C, C++, and Visual Basic.
Comment by StratRat — October 3, 2007 @ 7:25 pm
I am an engineer for one of the major computer manufacturers.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:34 pmBuckie Boy:
I am not “Jake.â€
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
Yet so many people find you indistinguishable from him. Maybe that just points out how much wingnuts all sound the same and don’t think for themselves? Sure does point to the lemmingness of your movement!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:34 pmAnd, you know you’ve won the argument when someone resorts to “you’re not educated, and I am.â€
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:30 pm
No, you only think you’ve won the argument, because your lack of education hasn’t prepared you to understand the difference between truth and propaganda. Republicans count on that; that’s why they fight tooth and nail to destroy the education system and replace it with madrassas of indoctrination.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:35 pmBuckie Boy:
I am not “Jake.â€
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
And you didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn last night either…so you are still stupid to the core…sorry!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:35 pmIf that were the case, per Oxford Debate Rules, then it would be a debate you’re winning. Talk about your far-out hypotheticals though.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
If it were Oxford Debate Rules, you would have been sanctioned for “squirreling”, little girl.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:35 pmIf that were the case, per Oxford Debate Rules, then it would be a debate you’re winning. Talk about your far-out hypotheticals though.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
You can talk about hypotheticals all you want; in fact, it’s all you have left. The facts deserted you several years and many massive failures ago. Remember the Decider going on vacation after clear warning about a terrorist attack? The attack of 9/11/01? Do you?
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:37 pmOh, I thought your said you were leaving 1/2 hour ago, StratRat — by all means, please stay and we can continue the debate.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:29 pm
Ah, dear child, debating requires intellect, skill and an understanding of the material at question. You don’t have the capacity to debate, only to smear, lie, and “squirrel”… Look it up…
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:37 pmThe official White House transcript reads: “But having gathered the advice…â€
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
Which official transcript is that again, Rory?
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:38 pmWhy would I need to stay at a Holiday Inn last night? Apology accepted (I guess).
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:37 pm
Ah, yet another example of humor lost on the humorless Republican… Typical…
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:38 pmWhich official transcript is that again, Rory?
Comment by Candyce — October 3, 2007 @ 7:38 pm
It’s the one Rush edited for her! ;)
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:38 pmSo Rory, Ann Coulter says she hopes all women lose the right to vote so Democrats won’t get elected anymore – do you share her misogynistic philosophy. As a woman (cough)?
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:39 pmThe off icial White House transcript is just more published lies since The Magificent Failure stole the office of president.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:39 pm*sigh*…drinking again…
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:39 pmI HATE YOUR FREE DUMBS!
Comment by GoTFreedumb — October 3, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
Oh, so you’ve been to a GOP fundraiser? ;)
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:40 pm132 – Ehh?
“Republicans count on that; that’s why they fight tooth and nail to destroy the education system and replace it with madrassas of indoctrination.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — October 3, 2007 @ 7:35 pm”
I’m no Republican, but I hardly think that that’s what Republicans think.
Ick.
Think again . . . or at least think before you articulate your madness.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:40 pm*sigh*…drinking again…
Comment by mongo — October 3, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
Sounds more like narcotics, probably prescription ones from his ’secret’ operation.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:40 pmIf it uses the same talking points as Jake, same agruments as Jake, tries to derail the thread like Jake, posts first with some one line stupidity like Jake, then yes we can say that you are Jake D. Fake.
So I will continue to tell people to Ignore Jake D. Fake, aka Rory.
Buck Fush
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:40 pmTHERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREEDOM!
Comment by GoTFreedumb — October 3, 2007 @ 7:40 pm
There isn’t? You should tell someone!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:41 pmThe off icial White House transcript is just more published lies since The Magificent Failure stole the office of president.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — October 3, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
Rory is trying to infer that TP doctored a transcript. I am just trying to find out which official transcript he is using to make that inference.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:41 pm1)The man who brought down the Soviet Union was named Mikhail Gorbachev. The Soviet Union’s economy had been failing for decades–arguably since Lenin. To hear the Right talk about it, the Soviets were going great guns until Ronnie decided to up defense spending, and suddenly the economy collapsed. Not even conservative historians believe that. Mikhail Gorbachev was the first Secretary who wasn’t part of Stalin’s old crowd. (Remember Chernenko? An eighty-year old guy who might not have moved under his own power for his entire reign?)
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:42 pmMikhail Gorbachev saw the rot, and, to his immense credit, enabled the old system to collapse without a civil war and mass destruction. Reagan didn’t force the collapse–the Soviet Union was always able to build their military, even while starving–the lesson of the Great Patriotic War. Neither was he the first to encourage Gorbachev–he was pushed into it by Thatcher, quite publicly.
2)The mere fact that you use the metaphor ‘take out’ is exactly the problem with the Taliban. Driving Afghans out of cities and back up into the hills is not ‘taking them out.’ The Russians can tell you that. The British can tell you that. And what should have been the prime purpose of the foray into Afghanistan–getting Osama–was done largely with totally untrustworthy Afghan warlords and a drizzle of American troops.But George decided that it was more important to conquer a country than to catch a mass-murdering terrorist.
3) Can you really support a President who supported the Dubai Ports deal and nominated Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court? Those were not right wing decisions, they were abysmally stupid ones.
The reason W says decider or decisions so much is because the process is very problematic for him. Just like the way he is always telling us how clear he is making himself and how much he understands something. It is all psychological.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:42 pm“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will rearch their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” –H.L. Mencken
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:44 pmRory is trying to infer that TP doctored a transcript. I am just trying to find out which official transcript he is using to make that inference.
Comment by Candyce — October 3, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
Ah, you don’t think she actually read a real transcript do you? ;)
Rory is the type that just picked up a talking point from her favorite wingnut propaganda site, and just copied and pasted it. She isn’t smart enough, effective enough or competent enough to actually do her own homework! She was on all of the Rush threads whining about not seeing the ‘real’ transcripts, a completely easy thing to find… Poor little lost girl, what a sad example of why good parenting is so critical to the development of a well socialized and intellectually competent person!
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:44 pmThese are the ramblings of a genuinely stupid person. Bush does not have a clue about the process of arriving at a sound decision. He is woefully lacking in critical thinking skills. Left on his own without speechwriters, coaches, and handlers, he simply cannot form a cogent explanation for his gut-level, uninformed, and often reactionary decisions. Even if this failed human had an ethical backbone he wouldn’t be remotely qualified to serve as President. What a profound embarrassment to his office and this country.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:45 pmRory: “So, taking out the Taliban was which one: “incredibly stupid†or “absolutely heartlessâ€?”
How about “unfinished”.
In case you haven’t been keeping up on current events, the taliban are still around, assassinating people in afghanistan, and declaring defiantly that they’ll never give up.
So that does not equate with “taking out”.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:45 pmThose were not right wing decisions, they were abysmally stupid ones.
Comment by pbg
Or a horse judge steward as head of FEMA? What could go wrong?
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:45 pmThe reason W says decider or decisions so much is because the process is very problematic for him.
Comment by Keith — October 3, 2007 @ 7:42 pm
I see that a previous comment has also brought up this issue of process, as in the decision-making process. Bush has none to speak of.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:46 pmpbg, great post.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:46 pmRory: “So, taking out the Taliban was which one: “incredibly stupid†or “absolutely heartlessâ€?”
Rory, I guess you’re trying to be clever, but all this post shows is how clueless you are. The Taliban is currently enjoying a resurgence of power. This year has been the most violent year of the entire war in Afghanistan. You’re bragging about your own delusions.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:48 pmDo you libs not think that the President of the United States makes decisions? I don’t understand the complaint.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
Yet another comment showing that Jake doesn’t have a clue what is going on. No one disputes that Bush makes decisions, you nitwit! What a non-sequitur! It is about HOW he makes decisions, and how that process results in consistently BAD decisions.
You are denser than a rock, Jake.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:49 pmgotfreedumb:
You are an idiod. This is my last and only post to you. . . but even as an idiot, you must realize that in order to post your stupidity, America must allow idiots free speech.
God bless America . . . idiots may spew . . .
P.S. That goes for you too, Jake. You can post all you want. Maybe gotfreedumb and you can get together and have a latte.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:49 pmOMFG!! 30 percenters- revel in the fact your leader is a complete mental midget. You could scrape a drunkard homeless man out of a gutter and he would probably be more articulate and make better decisions as president than this bag of crap. Supporting Bush at this point is criminial.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:50 pmMy god, is Rory stupid or what? The Taliban is undergoing a major resurgence in Afghanistan, and they do control parts of the country still.
What an f***ing retard. Try opening a newspaper sometime there pal.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:51 pmI decide, you know, I say, ‘This is what we’re going to do.’ And it’s ‘Yes, sir, Mr. President.’ And then we get after it, implement policy.â€
Actually they say, “You said Jump Master, how high do you want that jump to be?”
It is amazing to me how anyone with one iota of self respect could ever work for that moron.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:52 pmBuckie Boy:
I am not “Jake.â€
Comment by Rory
Prove it. Has anyone here seen Jake and Rory post on the same thread? Not me.
But it really doesn’t matter. You are just as big a Right Wing Loon as Jake is. If you are not really Jake, you two would make a perfect couple.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:54 pmRory: “That’s not the embarrassment we Republicans felt about Clinton boinking an innocent intern in the Oval Office.”
Would that be the 22-year old paid staffer named Monica who told her friends in Portland that she was bringing her “presidential kneepads” with her to Washington? You cultists sure have an interesting definition of “innocent.”
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:54 pmIt “took them out†of being in charge of a rouge state and blowing up Buddah statues, right?
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
You haven’t prevented them from blowing very many things up, especially people.
As for being in charge of the state, no, they’re now just in charge of large swatches of the state instead of it entirely…
If this is what you call ‘finishing the job’, it explains why Iraq is such a mess from incompetents like yourself, little girl.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:55 pmWhat an f***ing retard. Try opening a newspaper sometime there pal.
Comment by VerbalKint
S/he doesn’t have to. S/he gets his/her news from Faux Noise. That’s all they need, the Right Wing Loons. Wouldn’t think of getting “news” from a different source, because that might just blow a hole in their balloon.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:56 pmHow much is commonsense worth ? The ability to know when one is wrong or off track ? Are those any traits you see in Bush ? Or even the ability to be accountable. Now lying, cheating, stealing, inability to admit one’s mistakes. Oh, wait he did say that the sign of Mission Accomplished was a mistake, but he hadn’t had that put up someone else did. It is always someone else that screwed up.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:56 pmThat is indeed a privilege and one which a poll of active-duty soldiers stationed around the world granted to him. How about we let all such soldiers vote whether to keep Rush on AFN or not? Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
Really, that’s what the basis was? A poll?
Where’s your link?
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:56 pmI don’t recall that she held a gun to Mr. Clinton’s head either.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
That’s what makes it consensual, so you can drop the “Pervert in Chief” line.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:58 pmWhat I was referring to was the specific thread with implicit (or not so implicit) threats of violence or arrest / other legal action against Rush (i.e. “Why hasn’t someone taken a baseball bat to Rush’s head yet?â€). From just that one the thread: Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
And all of those pale in comparison to what you wingnuts wanted to happen to moveon and liberals – what’s your point?
One of you guys told me that I should be shot for criticizing Rush – your point, little girl?
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:58 pmWell, I don’t know about the rest of you, but I know I’m gonna sleep better tonight knowing the “Deciderer Guy” is on the job!
sarcasm/off…
BTW, I suspect “Rory” is a pd poster.
Whoever wants to censure Rush on Military radio has got it right on,,,, The military is overwhelmingly conservative and should be forced to listen to LAURENCE WELK or AL FRANKEN.
Only then will we be able to BRAINWASH them. Kinda like the reeducation camps the commies set up for those that have not SEEN THE FUTURE.
Comment by francie — October 3, 2007 @ 1:42 am
And this is so crazy it had to have been put on the thread just to make the site look bad.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:58 pmYes, I believe her name was Monica. I don’t recall that she held a gun to Mr. Clinton’s head either.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
What’s your excuse for why your kids look like the mailman?
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:58 pmAnd, a special bonus quote (at no additional charge) as to “brainwashing†military folk:
Whoever wants to censure Rush on Military radio has got it right on,,,, The military is overwhelmingly conservative and should be forced to listen to LAURENCE WELK or AL FRANKEN.
Only then will we be able to BRAINWASH them. Kinda like the reeducation camps the commies set up for those that have not SEEN THE FUTURE.
Comment by francie — October 3, 2007 @ 1:42 am
Isn’t this post bashing liberals? Why does he think it proves his point?
mongo:
It “took them out†of being in charge of a rouge state and blowing up Buddah statues, right?
Comment by Rory —
And what exactly is a “rouge” state? One run by rednecks?
Or did you mean “Rogue?”
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:59 pmBTW, I suspect “Rory†is a pd poster. Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — October 3, 2007 @ 7:58 pm
PD? Pathological Disorder?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:00 pmGathering devices is what morons are best at.
Decidering not so much.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:01 pmAnd what exactly is a “rouge†state? One run by rednecks?
Or did you mean “Rogue?â€
Comment by barfly — October 3, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
Well, for the record, Jake is in drag right now! ;)
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:01 pmJake would have us believe that an ‘intellectual’ woman doesn’t know how to spell rouge!!! Or what it means!!!! Too funny!!!
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:01 pmRory: “That’s not the embarrassment we Republicans felt about Clinton boinking an innocent intern in the Oval Office.â€
Ye gods! Presidential BOINKING???
Surely a sign of the End Times.
No embarrassment about a Pres who’s presided over the worst deficits in this country’s history, the Katrina aftermath, the Iraqi bloodbath, torture, the DoJ scandal, and wiretapping, but upset over ONE hummer?
Strange value system ya got, Rory.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:02 pmAnd this is so crazy it had to have been put on the thread just to make the site look bad.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Read it closer. It slams liberals. And does nothing to prove his point.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:03 pmNope, he will ALWAYS be Pervert-in-Chief IMHO.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
So Kennedy’s affairs don’t give him that honor?
Or GHBush’s lifetime mistress didn’t give him that honor?
Or GWBush’s Gannon sleepovers didn’t give him that honor?
You’re setting your bar two low, little girl!
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:03 pmYes, I believe her name was Monica. I don’t recall that she held a gun to Mr. Clinton’s head either.
Comment by Rory
You are quite right. And he didn’t hold a gun to her head. She was a consenting adult and so was he. Sorry that’s over your head, but then the truth usually is.
This is a never ending source of amusement to me that the Right Wing Loons get their panties in a wad about consensual sex between two adults and yet they see nothing wrong with the mass murder of hundreds of thousand innocent Iraqi’s. Priorities, theirs are certainly fu*ked up.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:03 pmIMHO.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
Your opinion isn’t humble, it’s tortured, hypocritical, dishonest and completely pathological – for the record!
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:04 pmRory: “Yes, I believe her name was Monica. I don’t recall that she held a gun to Mr. Clinton’s head either.”
Right. The point, oh clueless one, is that she wasn’t an intern, she was a paid staffer, she wasn’t “innocent” and it was a consensual affair. I know Clinton-bashing is like a religion for people like you, but at least get your facts straight.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:05 pmSo Rory, why isn’t Bush the big pervert exactly?
Who was that sleepover for again? Someone for Laura and George to milk the horses with?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:06 pmTRoS: A better question to ask our resident moron troll would be to list the good decisions the Chimp has made. That would be the “short list”. The “long list” are all of the horrendous decisions he’s made from Katrina to Iraq and everything in between.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:06 pmYes, barfly, I meant “Rogue†state; you probably think Bush meant “gathered the device†too, right? It’s called a TYPO.
Comment by Rory
Or a poor grasp of spelling.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:06 pmRory: “you probably think Bush meant “gathered the device†too, right? It’s called a TYPO.”
OK, people, the Bush cultist has changed the rules again. When Bush says something stupid, it’s now called a “TYPO.”
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:06 pmYes, barfly, I meant “Rogue†state; you probably think Bush meant “gathered the device†too, right? It’s called a TYPO.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:04 pm
You mean the thing that I recall you belittling others for yesterday. That was so generous of you, little girl!
I’m still waiting though.
Why did a gay prostitute have so many whitehouse sleepovers again?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:07 pmNope, he will ALWAYS be Pervert-in-Chief IMHO.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
Rethuglicans – still obsessing over the Clenis. How sad.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:07 pmIt’s too damn bad that the Chimp is so repulsive so we could get him impeached for a BJ, isn’t it?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:07 pmShe was an intern when the affair started.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:07 pm
An affair initiated by her, by her own admission.
Your point? It was an affair.
Please, don’t tell us you haven’t had an affair – that’s why you’re so fixated on this! Self loathing!
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:08 pmNope, he will ALWAYS be Pervert-in-Chief IMHO.
Comment by Rory
So, consexual sex is a perverted act… mmm…
No wonder why asking a 16 y/o by MSN if they are turned on is seen funny for some freaks.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:08 pmI have seen stories about Bush and his sidekick, Condi Candi though.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:08 pmThe Bible is kinda strange that way.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
Which part of the Bible speaks against oral sex?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:08 pmRory: “The Bible is kinda strange that way.”
OK, now I understand why you are such an idiot. Thanks.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:08 pmOh my. That was….Oh my. (head in hands…..shakes head again for the 100,000th time).
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:08 pmYes, barfly, I meant “Rogue†state; you probably think Bush meant “gathered the device†too, right? It’s called a TYPO.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:04 pm
No, it’s not a typo. It’s what he said. That’s why the official White House transcript has [sic] after the word. You know, the official one on the White House site that you claimed above said advice, not device. Why you lied about that I have no idea.
TYPOs are not spoken, Rory.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:08 pmAnd thanks for ignoring my post regarding your “added bonus,” it allows me to point out that the post you pasted actually is a sarcastic slam of liberals, and does nothing to prove your point about Limpy. Reading comp. wasn’t a high priority at your school?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:09 pmIt was more than one, but yes. The Bible is kinda strange that way. Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
You mean the part where it says “thou shalt not kill”? Or, the “thou shall not bear false witness”?
You wingnuts are so choosy in which parts of that you ignore to justify your own immorality.
That’s why it’s so easy to make fun of you for being a hypocrite, little girl!
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:09 pmNope, he will ALWAYS be Pervert-in-Chief IMHO.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
And you’ll always be a f*cked up moron around here.
Nice how that works….
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:09 pmThe Bible is kinda strange that way.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
The Bible also says that women who have sex outside of marriage should be stoned to death. Like Eisenhower’s chauffeur, Nancy Reagan, and GHWB’s Jennifer. Is Jenna a virgin? I don’t know.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:10 pmSo, consexual sex is a perverted act… mmm… Comment by Juan C. — October 3, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
Yes, but toe tapping in a public restroom, paying hookers to sleepover at the whitehouse and molesting young boys is OK, as long as you’re a Republican! ;)
No wonder why asking a 16 y/o by MSN if they are turned on is seen funny for some freaks.
Comment by Juan C. — October 3, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
Hehe, so true!
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:11 pmThat’s not the embarrassment we Republicans felt about Clinton boinking an innocent intern in the Oval Office. Like I said YMMV.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 6:55 pm
An innocent intern? You actually believe that Monika was “an innocent intern”? ROFLMAO.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:11 pmThe Bible is kinda strange that way.
Comment by Rory
I agree, I am still looking for the name Katrina.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:11 pmHey Zooey. Where you been? I got to mention Eisenhower’s chauffeur again.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:11 pmRory: “She was an intern when the affair started.”
Not that it matters to you, but that’s not true. She became a paid staffer before her 22nd birthday. Some of Clinton’s people tried to keep her away from him. Their affair came a few months later. But, never mind, Rory. You go back to reading your bible. You’re going to need solice in the months to come. I suggest Psalms and Matthew. Good luck.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:12 pmBull shit is the big mouth bass for the reich, no brain, no substance just a feeder…..He’s suposto be the leader, decider, war creator pres. but in reality he is nothing more than a carnval barker…The most evil’s in charge are on a long list with cheney, wolfi, rummie, rove and dozen’s more…While bush is heartless and stupid at best he is not bright enough to have thought of all this madness……His legacy and the republican down fall will be ” The worst president in the history of America”..He alone will be blamed for the bulk of this even though every one know’s he’s to stupid to have thought up any of it……Blessings
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:12 pmShe was an intern when the affair started.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:07 pm
She was 22 years old and a college graduate. She was not a child, not a page — she was an adult. He was an adult. They had consensual, if ill-advised sex together. Many people do, but it scarcely makes a ripple in the universe except when people like you try to make it into a constitutional crisis.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:13 pmThe Bible is kinda strange that way.
What does the Bible say about murder, now that Bush’s invasion has killed as many Iraqi civilians as Saddam did?
Human Rights Watch reports that Saddam killed 100,000 Kurdish Iraqis (another 500,000 are estimated to have died in Saddam’s needless war with Iran i.e., non-civilian deaths attributable to needless war). Bush’s invasion of Iraq has caused, by conservative estimates, 100,000 civilian deaths.
So Bush, who claimed the invasion was necessary to prevent Saddam from killing his own citizens, has now killed at least as many civilians as Saddam did.
All for the sake of poor George’s personal Oedipal neurosis. What a tragedy.
http://wais.stanford.edu/ Iraq/ iraq_deathsundersaddamhussein42503.html
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:13 pmNope, he will ALWAYS be Pervert-in-Chief IMHO.
Comment by Rory
And Newt Gringrich did the same thing, at the same time, and he isn’t?
I think its up to Hillary to decide whats best for her and the Republicans have long used this as catch-all excuse for their heinous behavior while completely, again, about Newts cheating on his wife,
And please explain Jeff Gannons many visits to the white house while your at it.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:14 pmHey Rory, I hope you’re not wearing mixed fabrics. That offense is punishable by stoning.
And, for god’s sake, don’t get a divorce or you’re going to hell just like most of your party’s candidates for President.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:14 pmFather, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing (Luke 23:34).
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:15 pmRegardless, we don’t stone people for adultery anymore — just impeach them. Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007
Not according to the ‘Republican cons’ over at stormfront
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:16 pmShe was an intern, and had just turned 22 on July 23, 1995: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Lewinski
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
And, according to your Wiki link, she didn’t start the affair with Clinton until November of that year. Do you think that being 22 years old somehow disqualifies her from making choices about who she has sex with? And why are you ignoring the fact that she told her friends she was effectively stalking Clinton. “Innocent”? What universe do you live in?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:16 pmRory: “Regardless, we don’t stone people for adultery anymore — just impeach them ; )”
Impeach them???!!! God, don’t tell Rudy, Newt, McCain or Fred. They may decide not to run.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:16 pm“So Bush, who claimed the invasion was necessary to prevent Saddam from killing his own citizens, has now killed at least as many civilians as Saddam did.”
Actually, Raw Story just had a story from a Spanish newspaper that asserts Bush was given the choice of allowing Saddam to leave with a measly billion dollars, but he decided that strutting around doing photo-ops on an aircraft carrier to be more important.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:17 pmRegardless, we don’t stone people for adultery anymore — just impeach them
Comment by Rory
He was impeached for adultery?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:17 pmHey Zooey. Where you been? I got to mention Eisenhower’s chauffeur again.
Comment by Keith — October 3, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
Heh. You do like to bring that up, and it’s so appropriate. :-)
Click on my name, and you’ll see where I’ve been.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:17 pmI don’t know either. Regardless, we don’t stone people for adultery anymore — just impeach them unless they’re Republicans.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
Here, fixed it for you.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:17 pmLuckily, for the rest of us, a “just war†is allowed per Christian doctrine as long as collateral damage is kept to a minimum.
Comment by Rory
Jesus did not write and did not create that ‘just war’ doctrine.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:18 pmHe was impeached for adultery?
Comment by Juan C. — October 3, 2007 @ 8:17 pm
No, but Rory is too stupid to know the difference. ;)
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:19 pmThe Decider decides
â€I got a lot of Ph.D.-types and smart people around me who come into the Oval Office and say, ‘Mr. President, here’s what’s on my mind.’ And I listen carefully to their advice. But having gathered the device (sic), I decide, you know, I say, ‘This is what we’re going to do.’ And it’s ‘Yes, sir, Mr. President.’ And then we get after it, implement policy.â€
If this statement wasn’t so pathetic it would be comical!
Your Decider deciding!
Troubled
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:19 pmRory, on that “Pervert in Chief” thing, have you heard the one about the FBI and Secret Service records which show that a gay male whore under an assumed name visited the Whitehouse at night at least 15 times with no record of checking out on the night he checked in? You might want to check into that before you go hurling the word “pervert” around. Just who was Jeff Guckert servicing in our Whitehouse? Inquiring minds want to know.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:19 pm“just war†is allowed per Christian doctrine as long as collateral damage is kept to a minimum.
Comment by Rory
Really? Who was the Pope that said that? Stalin?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:19 pmI guess you also think the inquisition was “just” Rory?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:19 pm“Luckily, for the rest of us, a “just war†is allowed per Christian doctrine as long as collateral damage is kept to a minimum.”
Comment by Rory
“No imminent threat” blows that one out of the water.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:20 pmNo, but Rory is too stupid to know the difference. ;)
Comment by Zooey
I guess she is inhaling too much helium.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:21 pmLuis M:
The part about “Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery.â€
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:12 pm
What about “Thou Shalt Not Kill”?
No embarrassment about a Pres who’s presided over the worst deficits in this country’s history, the Katrina aftermath, the Iraqi bloodbath, torture, the DoJ scandal, and wiretapping, but upset over ONE hummer?
It was more than one, but yes.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
I see, no embarrassment about your President presiding the killing of Iraqis. But upset about BJs at the Oval Office. Yep, those sure are some good-ol’ Jesus values alright.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:21 pmFor lying under oath and obstruction justice about it, Juan C.
Comment by Rory
Whats that has to do with adultery?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:22 pmI don’t know either. Regardless, we don’t stone people for adultery anymore — just impeach them ; )
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
I know extremely well we don’t stone people for adultry. I told you that the Bible says women who have sex outside of marriage should be stoned to death—-because you said we should follow the Bible.
I asked what you thought about Eisenhower having sex with his chauffeur, Nancy and Ron having sex before their marriage (Patty born six months later and not premature), and GHWB’s long-time affair with Jennifer.
Clinton did not have sex with that woman given the prosecutors’ definition of sex which did not include a hummer.
What do you think of Saint Rudi who was parading down Broadway with his mistress in the St. Patrick Day’s Parade?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:22 pmRory, here’s Frank Zappa speaking especially to you from beyond the grave:
You can’t run a country by a book of religion.
Not by a lump or a smudge or a smidgion
Of foolish rules of ancient date
Designed to make you all feel great
While you bend, fold and mutilate
Those unbelievers from the neighboring state.
Have a nice day.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:22 pmI guess she is inhaling too much helium.
Comment by Juan C. — October 3, 2007 @ 8:21 pm
You’re too kind….
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:22 pmSo, since you brought it up, Rory, what is your advanced degree in anyway? Just wondering….
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:23 pmYes Bush did something right even if he can’t speak English. The Iran President had low polls in his country for this up coming Iran election. Then Bush and other Jewish Leaders had an idea to embarrass
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:24 pmand set up the Iran President when he visited the UN.
Well the set up was all over the media and around the world as the United States showed total disrespect for
a visiting leader. But God stepped in and now thanks
to the set up the Iran President is a hero around the
world. He is seen as a great leader who stood up to
the true Axis of Evil and showed class.
Now I hope Bush doesn’t go to Iran to speak they really would know just how dumb he really is. He said he knows alot of smart people even if he’s as dumb as a door knob. Maybe he can ask Bill Clinton to go in his place at lease the US would be represented by and educated respectful leader. He can’t send Clarence Thomas because he’s still crying about seeing dead people and Gonzales is busy looking for a job. Scooter Libby can’t go because he would have to report to his parole officer.
Good luck getting Bush under oath about Gannon . . . Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:23 pm
So it’s OK to be a pervert (Republican) as long as you don’t have to lie about it under oath? Hehehe, yeah, those are the family values we’ve all come to know and love!
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:24 pmWhats that has to do with adultery?
Comment by Juan C. — October 3, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
Nothing. The “moral” conservatives in this country didn’t approve of Bill Clinton, so they used every trick in the book to smear him and discredit him. Before he f*cked up with the intern, they were trying to get him on a 20 year old land deal, and a travel office “scandal.”
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:25 pmA judge ruled that Clinton did not lie nor obstruct justice and that it was immaterial to the Paula Jones case, anyway. Check your facts. Just because cons say something a million times–doesn’t make it true.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:25 pmRory, there are no just wars.
Next time US is bombed and you watch your children die before your eyes, you will see that no amount of “victory” is worth that. You probably dont care, but there have been millions of people all around the world that know, first hand what a war means.
There are no just wars.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:26 pmOn a “just” war:
“A just war can only be fought to redress a wrong suffered. For example, self-defense against an armed attack is always considered to be a just cause (although the justice of the cause is not sufficient–see point #4). Further, a just war can only be fought with “right” intentions: the only permissible objective of a just war is to redress the injury.”
Iraq is no “just” war.
They openly admit it was to secure Iraq’s oil resources.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:26 pmRory cites Wikipedia. Loser.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:27 pmbarfly:
It was a “gathering†threat.
But in no way can it be considered a just war.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:27 pmSo, Rory…you are wrong. Clinton was impeached for adultery.
Why do you try to present our opinions as facts?
Be careful, next time, hopefully you dont support an invasion based on fake info. Oops.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:28 pmbarfly:
It was a “gathering†threat. Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:25 pm
Still, not a requirement for your definition of a just war. Making you the evil one.
Keith:
I never said the government should follow the Bible; that would be a theocracy and prohibited by the First Amendment. Do you really believe that Clinton never TOUCHED Lewinsky?
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:25 pm
Not a relevant issue. He was impeached (indicted) and acquitted.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:28 pmRory cites Wikipedia. Loser.
Comment by Zooey — October 3, 2007 @ 8:27 pm
Guess that’s where he got his advanced degree. Wiki U.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:28 pmThe Just war doctrine is a theory, Rory, some 340 years AD.
The strict conditions for legitimate defense by military force require rigorous consideration. The gravity of such a decision makes it subject to rigorous conditions of moral legitimacy. At one and the same time:
* the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:29 pm[Iraq did not attack the united states]
* all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;
[No Sanctions have come against Saudi for the extremists]
* there must be serious prospects of success;
[Bush has no exit plan whatsoever]
* the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modern means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.
[We are creating more terrorists. More Iraqis have been killed than in a hundred 9/11s]
mmm…I should check my posts before I press Post:
Clinton wasnt impeached for adultery.
Why would tou try to present your opinions as facts?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:29 pmGuess that’s where he got his advanced degree. Wiki U.
Comment by Candyce — October 3, 2007 @ 8:28 pm
Rory is so gullible, I wouldn’t be surprised.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:29 pmDo you really believe that Clinton never TOUCHED Lewinsky?
Comment by Rory
Clenis envy?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:31 pmIf Rudy, Newt, McCain or Fred are elected President of the United States and do the same thing, I will support their impeachment as well.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:18 pm
So you’ll be calling for the impeachment of Sen. Vitter – or IOKIYAR?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:32 pmI consider it a “Just War.†Of course, some like Juan C. don’t even consider WWII was a “Just War†so YMMV.
Comment by Rory
Did it occur to you that Hilter pretty much followed the ‘just war’ theory as well?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:32 pmOf course, some like Juan C. don’t even consider WWII was a “Just War†so YMMV.
Comment by Rory
Oh, the great comparison… Iraq and WWII.
Funny.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:32 pmRemember 1998? How, after the House of Representatives approved two articles of impeachment, Bill Clinton’s approval rating jumped 10 points? How public approval of Congress fell by more than 10 points? That’s because most Americans saw through the rightwing squawk machine, and wanted the Senate to stop policing the President’s sex life.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:33 pmWho gives a f*ck about Clinton anyway?
This thread is about the Deciderer! This is the dope who thinks people have access to healthcare because they can go to the Emergency Room. Need I say more?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:33 pmSee ya later, folks.
Psst, Rory…keep up the Clinton impeaching thing. Comedy gold!
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:34 pmNight, Juan.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:34 pm…..but upset over ONE hummer?
It was more than one, but yes. The Bible is kinda strange that way.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
After you said that—-I wanted to know what you thought about the 100 million conservatives who have had sex outside of marriage. Because the Bible says that women who have sex outside of marriage must be stoned to death.
Yes, I believe Clinton touched Monica. Why don’t you try reading and comprehending what I say.
One or more hummers is not exactly equal to the needless, costly, and counterproductive butchering of one million innocent people. I don’t care what you *&^%$#@ say!
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:34 pmIraq was a UN/US Resolution about WMDs Rory It was not about who attacked us. It was also labeled a Freedom Operation. It is not about getting even for what happened on 9/11.
It is not a religious war, it never was, if you paid attention to what Greenspan and many have said, as far back as Kissinger in 1975, it was about the security of oil.
Pay attention.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:35 pmbarfly:
I consider it a “Just War.â€
Then you must also believe the reason we haven’t found Saddam’s WMD is because they were spirited away by the Flying Dutchman, which is invisible to satellite imagery…
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:36 pmThat’s because most Americans saw through the rightwing squawk machine, and wanted the Senate to stop policing the President’s sex life.
Comment by koko the talking gorilla — October 3, 2007 @ 8:33 pm
Rory didn’t see through the squawk machine. Shhhh……
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:36 pmRory reminds me of that poster a few months back (not Jake). Can’t remember her name, but it was the highschool chick that was so gung ho on bush. I think her name at that time started with a P. nyone remember that poster? ANd we all took her to task. She was the one that started to end her comments with “love you”.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:36 pmThe Just war doctrine does not now, or then, make what is happening today JUST by any stretch of the imagination.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:36 pmThe Bible is kinda strange that way.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
So are you…
Ummm… BTW, what exactly does the Bible have to do w/ this?
Oh… the “Thou shalt not kill” thingy?
Geez, Bush would kinda be in trouble there, huh?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:37 pmIf there’s some question you asked me that you don’t think I’ve answered, by all means let me know.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
How a war of choice was “justified”?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:38 pm“If there’s some question you asked me that you don’t think I’ve answered, by all means let me know.”
Comment by Rory
Now who does this sound like?
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Jake found no-one to debate, and so had donned a fake beard?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:40 pmShe was the one that started to end her comments with “love youâ€.
Comment by Jeannie See — October 3, 2007 @ 8:36 pm
Ms Neo-Con! Mr Pee fell in love with that underage child. :D
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:40 pmRory,
Yes the question is do you equate hummers with the butchering of one million innocent civilians, costing $2 Trillion, and making us less safe—-and what do you think about the millions of conservatives who have sex outside of marriage? Hint: Bible says women must be stoned to death.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:42 pmHow many civilians died during WWII?
What in God’s name makes WWII relevant to Bush’s Iraq fiasco, you delusional, soulless sap?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:43 pmWhat alias did Megan Parigi use? She is the 23 year-old anorexic from Redondo Beach.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:44 pm“Bible says women must be stoned to death.”
Comment by Keith
They’d have to be really wasted to bump uglies with Daryll.
All that crying and scourging is a real turn-off.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:45 pmRory, you seem like quite a history buff, so I wanted to ask you: did any other President launch, then lose, TWO wars?
I’m just askin’.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:45 pmWhat alias did Megan Parigi use? She is the 23 year-old anorexic from Redondo Beach.
Comment by Keith — October 3, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
That was Mighty Aphrodite, later known as Valiant Venus. Another f*cked up loser.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:47 pmBarfly,
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:47 pmNo, not that kind of “Stoned”.
No, not that kind of “Stonedâ€.
Comment by Keith
There goes Happy Hour, Mr. Buzzkill.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:50 pmComment by Zooey — October 3, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
That’s what some said. Others said not possible because alleged lawyer with grown children.
Anyway, found pictures of her with Nazis at a “SaveOurState” rally.
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:50 pm‘I want to remind you, Madam Secretary, who has the Ph.D. and who was the C student. And I want to remind you who the adviser is and who the president is.’
Is it any wonder why Bush is never able to attract any talent around him other than the most slavish of sycophants?
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:51 pmZooey,
Wanna see her myspace? Parental guidance advised.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=79943506
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:55 pm‘I want to remind you, Madam Secretary, who has the Ph.D. and who was the C student. And I want to remind you who the adviser is and who the president is.’
Shorter Bush:
“In yer face, Perfesser Pointyhead!”
October 3rd, 2007 at 8:55 pmAnyway, found pictures of her with Nazis at a “SaveOurState†rally.
Comment by Keith — October 3, 2007 @ 8:50 pm
I’ve seen the myspace. Totally sick. How did you find pictures of her with Nazis?
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:00 pmShorter Rory: No, I won’t give you the BJ, but I’ll kill anything that moves if I think it’s “just.”
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:02 pmRory,
Why do you think they were asking Clinton questions about Lewinsky in a deposition that had nothing to do with Lewinsky or BJs?
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:04 pmadultery by the President which led to purjury and obstruction of justice was indeed worse than the butchering of one million innocent civilians, costing $2 Trillion
That’s the most obscene thing I’ve ever seen typed on these pages.
I also stated that we no longer stone (just impeach) conservatives or liberals who have sex outside of marriage.
Who has been impeached for having sex outside of marriage?
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:06 pmI just watched the video again, what an idiot.
love the banner: Passing Debt On
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:06 pmlove the banner: Passing Debt On
Comment by rocks911 — October 3, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
hehehe! Very good.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:08 pmMs Neo-Con! Mr Pee fell in love with that underage child. :D
Comment by Zooey — October 3, 2007 @ 8:40 pm
Yeah, that’s her. She was posting under Ms. Neo-Con but if I remember correctly, she was signing off with something that started with a P at first. Then went to Ms. Neo-Con. Anyhoo, she’s still a very misguided Neo-COn.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:11 pmBecause they were tipped off that Lewinsky’s affidavit was false.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
So? It had nothing to do with the case at hand.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:11 pm“Self-defense†and “Defense of others†are recognized at common law and in every state criminal code as well.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 9:04 pm
So you’re what? a lawyer? How is the weather in San Diego?
“Oooh, I don’t know. I’m a mother of three. They’re all doing homework for 14 hours a day…”
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:11 pmCandyce,
Truly thats what we’ve got to get better at, short attention span bits.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:14 pmAnyhoo, she’s still a very misguided Neo-COn.
Comment by Jeannie See — October 3, 2007 @ 9:11 pm
Hell, that dumb kid didn’t even understand what a neo-con was. She claimed not to like what the current admin is doing, but called herself Ms Neo-Con. What a dimwit!
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:14 pmRight over his head, Zooey. Again.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:16 pmMonica was a volunteer, by her own admission. Clinton was not harassing her.
Try reading something other than the Wiki.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:17 pmSee how I stated my disagreement without resporting to ad hominem attacks?
Screw that: anyone, like you, who presumes to own moral high ground by screeching endlessly about Presidential sex while simultaneously defends another President’s lying to his nation to trick them into an unjustified invasion, just to indulge his sicko personal demons, is vile, subhuman garbage.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:18 pmRory,
Christ, I come back an hour after preparing dinner and you’re still on Monica lewinski, what a putz! Christ you seem desperate. Get out the trailer and take a break for F*ck sake!
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:19 pmRight over his head, Zooey. Again.
Comment by Candyce — October 3, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
Yep. I’m gonna stop banging my head on the brickwall called Rory, and finish my English paper — it’s boring and frustrating, but way more fun than the Rory Ride.
Toodles. :)
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:19 pmkoko the talking gorilla,
F’n eh!
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:20 pmI’m not a lawyer. Maybe that’s why I never really understood why it mattered to Clinton defenders so much whether Monica was an unpaid intern or a paid employee (like Jones had been). If Clinton had been sexually harrassing Monica, that indeed would seem “relevant†to the case at hand (no pun intended). Of course, I’m not a lawyer.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
Of course you’re not. Then what is this?
“Self-defense†and “Defense of others†are recognized at common law and in every state criminal code as well.
That’s you.
So which is it? Lawyer? Legal expert? Hoax?
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:21 pmRight Wing Loon Rory thinks that the following are threats against Rush:
Deflate the Gas Bag.
Comment by kdoug — October 2, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
You will see that there are way more of us (the poor pathetic progressives) than there are of you (the Right Wing Loon).
Comment by bilbobaggins — October 2, 2007 @ 6:59 pm
I think Rush should be forced to broadcast FROM Iraq to be heard on AFR.
Comment by Bodhittsatva — October 2, 2007 @ 8:18 pm
Limbaugh should be yanked off the air period.
Comment by Probus — October 2, 2007 @ 10:15 pm
Rush should be arrested! Free speech can’t be totally free…
Comment by USpace — October 3, 2007 @ 1:23 am
Wow, I bet that Rush is really scared with those kind of threats running around there. I guess Rory thinks my calling her and other Right Wing Loons, Right Wing Loons is a threat to Rush.
Rory, honey, you have really gone around the bend here. You better stop before you run right off the cliff.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:24 pmSo which is it? Lawyer? Legal expert? Hoax?
Comment by gummitch — October 3, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
Plagiarizer. :-D
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:24 pmSo which is it? Lawyer? Legal expert? Hoax?
No…putz.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:26 pmOnly “lawyers†know about self-defense and defense of others?!
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
Only “lawyers” use language like that. Normal people don’t.
“recognized at common law and in every state criminal code as well.”
That’s in no way connected to standard English. Nice try, though.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:33 pmBTW, gummitch, even assuming Frohnmayer wins, he will be one of two Independents in the U.S. Senate. You really think he’s going to deliver on that campaign promise to impeach Bush? That simply leaves Cheney as the REAL President. Honestly, are you guys going to try to impeach, and conduct a trial, in January of 2009?
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 9:32 pm
You’ve been a busy little “mom”, haven’t you?
And, somehow, you’ve dismissed the entire year of 2008.
Hey, face it, you’re busted. Why not slink off and pretend none of this happened?
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:35 pmZooey,
I got pictures of her with American Nazis through a Google search of Megan Parigi. Don’t tell anyone. They think I am a regular Sam Spade.
http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/08/nazis.jpgh0eyvw.jpg
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:37 pmComment by Keith — October 3, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
Holy crap, Keith. That looks like her. Ugh.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:44 pmI swear Bush makes Zippy the Pinhead look like a Rhodes Scholar!
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:45 pmRory is so clever with the lawyer jokes. Too bad they’re not good lawyer jokes.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:45 pm309,
Oh man that really takes me back to fourth grade. Sharp whit they my man!
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:47 pmI am busy, but I didn’t dismiss the entire year of 2008 — Nancy Pelosi says impeachment is off the table though — I assume your last, best shot will be a new Congress then. It was a separate question. Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 9:40 pm
You assume a lot. Maybe that’s why you keep confusing an affair with an obstruction of justice charge? You know, like how Bush obstructed justice on the 9/11 commission and Iraq Invasion investigations?
I am also not going to “slink off and pretend none of this happened†either.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 9:40 pm
None of what happened? Bush lied in order to invade a nearly helpess country, while hanging out with gay hookers in the whitehouse?
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:48 pmOh Rory, don’t worry your little head about it. I’ve got it handled.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:49 pmDon’t bother trying to tell me what to do, Rory. It won’t work. It’s my perogative to return anytime I wish. Understand?
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:55 pmSpeaking of Lancaster, does anyone remember this?
You know what I think? I think the almighty Commander Guy missed his true calling. The man would make a great televangelist. Given all the God talk he spouts, money he is able to raise, and laws he is willing to break he seems perfectly suited for the job.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:56 pmYou will note when I say I’m leaving for the night, I don’t LIE.
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 10:01 pm
No… it would appear you save your lies for when you’re here… ;-D!!!
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:03 pmZooey,
It’s definitely her. It popped up just by putting “Megan Parigi” into Google Images. Plus, it’s next to Redondo.
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:03 pmWell, Rory, I’ve lived and worked around enough lawyers to note that I never actually said I was leaving.
Now you’re lying about what I said. God will get you for that.
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:04 pmBut you lied about the official White House transcript.
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:04 pmIt’s definitely her. It popped up just by putting “Megan Parigi†into Google Images. Plus, it’s next to Redondo.
Comment by Keith — October 3, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
what made you decide to do that, Keith? I haven’t thought about MA for months.
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:07 pmWOW! Like ok…already…like wow!!! man!!!
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:07 pmNo… it would appear you save your lies for when you’re here… ;-D!!!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — October 3, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
People who are overly concerned about other’s possible lies, are usually liars.
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:08 pmYou lied when you said Clinton was guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice because Republicans in the Senate and Republican Judge Susan Weber Wright said he was not—plus she said it was immaterial to the Paula Jones case—which was dropped with no admission of guilt. I’d pay that thing a large amount to leave me alone, too.
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:09 pmComment by Zooey — October 3, 2007 @ 10:07 pm
It was about two months ago when someone here put up her myspace link. But there was disagreement over whether she was actually MA and VV. Since you are usually the expert on everyone, I thought I’d ask you.
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:12 pmSince you are usually the expert on everyone, I thought I’d ask you.
Comment by Keith — October 3, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
Oh lordy. I really don’t know if Megan and MA are the same person. I went back and forth on it. They are both clearly despicable people, and if they are the same person, clearly disturbed.
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:17 pmWell, Rory, [...] you’re lying about what I said. God will get you for that. — Zooey
That, and this from #276: “Adultery by the President which led to purjury and obstruction of justice was indeed worse than the butchering of one million innocent civilians, costing $2 Trillion.”
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:34 pmSee how I stated my disagreement without resporting to ad hominem attacks?
Comment by Rory — October 3, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
Your opinion is ad hominem. it is based on your hatred and ignorance, not on any understanding of the “just war” theories, which any civilized person will see are bullshit anyway. You are clearly morally bereft and of low character. You have proven it.
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:39 pmOur next president should have at least a 3 digit IQ.
October 3rd, 2007 at 11:29 pm#291 Rory:
I’m not a lawyer. Maybe that’s why I never really understood why it mattered to Clinton defenders so much whether Monica was an unpaid intern or a paid employee (like Jones had been). If Clinton had been sexually harrassing Monica, that indeed would seem “relevant†to the case at hand (no pun intended). Of course, I’m not a lawyer.
You’re right you’re not a lawyer. Lawyers know about such things as Bronston, Gaudin, and FRE Rules 403,404, and 415. Strangely enough, the Republicans didn’t (or at least they didn’t admit it in public)….
So WTF were you attempting to say? That you’re stoopid? Uneducated (and unwilling to educate yourself)?
Cheers,
October 4th, 2007 at 12:02 am#217 Rory:
For lying under oath and obstruction justice about it,…
“[L]ying under oath” is not a crime. See, e.g., the Kungys and Gaudin cases.
“[O]bstruction of justice”? You mean like the Scooter case? Or the U.S. attorneys scandal?
Cheers,
October 4th, 2007 at 12:13 amOh, the poor widdle pwesident must be sooooooo vewwy tired!
All that decideratin’ is hard work. Real hard.
Maybe Brown Sugar can rub your widdle head for you!!
October 4th, 2007 at 12:32 amProbus – that’s Chimpy’s very own nickname for Condi – NOT mine.
So in this case, BUSH is the racist – not me. Scold HIM.
October 4th, 2007 at 12:42 amBush calls Condi “Brown Sugar?” Ugh.
October 4th, 2007 at 12:58 amBush calls Condi “Brown Sugar?†Ugh.
Comment by Zooey — October 4, 2007 @ 12:58 am
Has this been validated? Yuk…
October 4th, 2007 at 1:31 amI decide, you know, I say, ‘This is what we’re going to do.’ And it’s ‘Yes, sir, Mr. President.’ And then we get after it, implement policy.â€
That explains the many disastrously failed policies of this admisnitration: Katrina, rebuilding New Orleans, Afghanistan, Iraq, No Child Left Behind, privatization of Social Security.
Pres Bush, instead of listening to those around him who are more educated and/or smarter, he chooses to go with his “gut feeling”.
See where that has taken the US. I really don’t think it’s much to boast about.
October 4th, 2007 at 1:44 amFYI,
Condi’s been shacked up with a woman named Bean in SoCal for years.
Rice & Bean
Laugh your head off at don’t ask don’t tell.
October 4th, 2007 at 2:10 amActually, the Rice & Bean relationship just came to light recently. . . . perhaps that’s why we’re seeing alot less Rice.
It’s public record.
October 4th, 2007 at 2:18 amA bit off-point, but Huff has no post.
Gonzalez authorized torture.
What kind of world do we live in? It took forever to get this guy out . . . he’s not a guy … he’s a monster. Part of a monsterous machine.
Generally, I would not promote another website, but since it appears that dub’ya intends to cleanse his legacy with a tax-funded launderer located at one of my favorite places, I ask you to object – go to: www. protectSMU.org.
Please, don’t let this man who lied to us by leading us into Iraq (Oil, oil, oil, Halliburton, Blackwater, oil and defense contractor buffet), who not only didn’t like black people enough to land his plane in Louisiana in support of the Gulf Coast (thinking that if enough blacks died, the Coast would turn Red), but won’t support child health insurance, who gave us a twofer: an energy policy seceretly crafted by the oil industry, but YEAH, BIG HIGH FIVES, a health insurance policy dictated by pharmaceutical companies! Now, where do you think dub’ya, his friends and associates have sunk their money and their futures?
Not is my cancerous kid.
October 4th, 2007 at 2:43 amOops,
That would that George W. Bush vetoed a bill that might save:
My cancerous kid.
Yeah George, Jenna may have a wedding in the Whitehouse on the same day that my son dies. He could have gotten treatment, but I got laid off and couldn’t afford insurance.
Jenna can kiss her groom . . . and I can kiss my son good bye. . . you look forward to budgeting a honeymoon on illgotten gains . . . I try to fund a funeral.
Sleep tight dub’ya. . . . you too Laura . . . Welcome to the land of the Idio-droids.
October 4th, 2007 at 2:52 amThis is the dumbest specimen to ever darken the doors of the WH or to crap behind two heels of his boots…and the 28%ers apologize for the ignorance…go figure.
October 4th, 2007 at 4:08 amThe more Bush talks, the more ignorant he looks!
He probably thinks he’s being ‘candid’ and ‘cute’ but every time I see his face, I just want to hurl…..
October 4th, 2007 at 6:10 am.
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“My job is a decision-making job. And as a result, I make a lot of decisions.”
elliptical thinking much? sorry, I didn’t mean to call that “thinking”
October 4th, 2007 at 8:38 amFrom the White House site regarding his, ahem, speech:
“Expansion of this business has provided people new opportunity employments — new employment opportunities here in Lancaster County. You know, when you give a man more money in his pocket — in this case, a woman more money in her pocket to expand a business, it — they build new buildings. And when somebody builds a new building somebody has got to come and build the building. And when the building expanded it prevented [sic] additional opportunities for people to work. Tax cuts matter. I’m going to spend some time talking about it. I want to thank you for giving us a chance to come and use you all as an example — and also the hall works. ”
God, I hate this man.
October 4th, 2007 at 9:05 amCaptainMantastic: Is what he saying not true.
From #152: No one disputes that Bush makes decisions, you nitwit! What a non-sequiteur! It is about HOW he makes decisions, and how that process results in consistently BAD decisions.
October 4th, 2007 at 9:55 amRory (he/she/it), Captain Mantastic (?), Godfather 2: People, these are all PAID trolls, though how the Repubics think this changes the minds of thinking people is beyond me. They all come from Liberty University or Pat Robertson U, both “phoney” colleges and then are recruited to come onto these websites and after taking a “loyalty pledge” to George Bush, they begin to spout Republic talking points or the ‘bible’, that are mostly meaningless. I mean, can’t they come up with intelligent arguments about something else than Bill Clinton, a president that actually governed?? And, about that so-called “just war” being “right” and the killing of thousands (Some say a million or more) being OK, well, I just don’t really know how to respond to a statement like that! It is obscene in the worst possible meaning of the word. Is this what they teach in bible college? This is somehow different than what they teach in maddrasses in the ME? That is the statement and the mindset of a “terrorist”.
October 4th, 2007 at 10:27 amAnd, oh by the way, Captain Mantastic (really?), about those two elections that our dear leader ‘won’, well most thinking people would say he ’stole’ them. I guess that makes you Republics the “sore losers”.
Well of course he’s the decider. And in his stumbling drunk path to where he’s at he has made a lot of decisions.
Deciding to let Daddy use his influence to keep the sot out of Vietnam.
Deciding that even showing up for duty was not as important as that eight ball.
Decisions that drove his oil company belly up.
Deciding to invade Iraq for Jesus.
Deciding to spend money killing Iraqi kids instead of saving American kids.
Deciding that one more BJ for Jeffy Lube Gannon would be ok.
Maybe he could make one more decision and decide to take the Adolph exit?
At least he would have made that one decision that we could all agree was the right one.
F*ck Bush.
October 4th, 2007 at 10:41 amSince Clinton hasn’t been in Office for SEVEN YEARS, wouldn’t it make since to find a more RECENT excuse for all the problems Republicans have caused????
Most of your arguments are morally and logically bankrupt. At some point, you really have to move on from the “Clinton did it too” argument. Last time I used that type of argument was in GRADE SCHOOL!
When somebody has to stress to you how many decisions they make, you have to wonder if they are over compensating for the lack of decisions they actually make. Since all the info has come out on how much control Cheney has, its no wonder that George is feeling powerless, and no more than a puppet on a string…
October 4th, 2007 at 2:47 pmRory,
You did not quote Judge Wright saying Clinton was guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice—-because she specifically said he was not. She also said that all his testimony about Monica was immaterial to the Jones case and therefore could not possibly be perjury nor obstruction of justice, either way!
Does it really make sense that Clinton was guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice and yet Republicans in the Senate voted that he was NOT?
Just because you hear something repeated many times, doesn’t make it true.
You still have not said what should be done with the many millions of conservatives who have sex outside of marriage. You said we must follow the Bible and the Bible says the women (not men) MUST be stoned to death.
October 4th, 2007 at 10:23 pmDoes he listen to himself speak? EVER?
October 5th, 2007 at 10:16 amAnd oh, to all you right wing nut jobs who were only all too happy to jump on the burn-Clinton-at-the-stake joy ride….no one died when he lied about Monica. Just a reminder.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:18 am….when he lied about Monica….
Comment by pintosahab — October 5, 2007 @ 10:18 am
He did not lie. He used the prosecutors’ definition of “sexual relations”—which did not include what they did. That’s why he apologized for misleading.
But you’re right—when Rory and others think this is worse than killing needlessly over a million innocent people, they are really loudly proclaiming their own sexual hangups.
October 5th, 2007 at 8:38 pm