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	<title>Comments on: Anti-Immigration Hate Group Intent On Denying Green Card For Soldiers&#8217; Spouses</title>
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		<title>By: bernarda</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/03/tanton-group-iraq-soldier/comment-page-2/#comment-4107315</link>
		<dc:creator>bernarda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe texaslady is confused by discrepancies in the video report and the written report.

The video says she came illegally, but the text says that she and her mother were granted political asylum. She was 5 at the time. Now after nearly 20 years the government wants to deport her. What sense does that make?

The written report also says that because she got married six weeks before her mother was granted permanent residency, she was disqualified. What sense does that make?

But one shouldn&#039;t expect reason and logic from the rightwing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe texaslady is confused by discrepancies in the video report and the written report.</p>
<p>The video says she came illegally, but the text says that she and her mother were granted political asylum. She was 5 at the time. Now after nearly 20 years the government wants to deport her. What sense does that make?</p>
<p>The written report also says that because she got married six weeks before her mother was granted permanent residency, she was disqualified. What sense does that make?</p>
<p>But one shouldn&#8217;t expect reason and logic from the rightwing.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4107315', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ThinkingRightLivingLeft</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/03/tanton-group-iraq-soldier/comment-page-2/#comment-4106695</link>
		<dc:creator>ThinkingRightLivingLeft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;REAL&quot; question here is should the State get involved in the PRIVATE PERSONAL FAMILY AFFAIRS of a US Citizen? Isn&#039;t the role of the State to protect Life, Liberty, Persuit of Happiness? And what of that little &quot;freedom from unreasonable search and siezure&quot; thing? Isn&#039;t it a bit unreasonable to &quot;sieze&quot; someones wife and destroy the nuclear family of a US Citizen for a civil violation of a constitutionally questionable law? An what about this soldiers right to free association? How many of these goofy Anti Immigrationists waited for 5,6,7 years to get a government stamp of approval before they got married?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;REAL&#8221; question here is should the State get involved in the PRIVATE PERSONAL FAMILY AFFAIRS of a US Citizen? Isn&#8217;t the role of the State to protect Life, Liberty, Persuit of Happiness? And what of that little &#8220;freedom from unreasonable search and siezure&#8221; thing? Isn&#8217;t it a bit unreasonable to &#8220;sieze&#8221; someones wife and destroy the nuclear family of a US Citizen for a civil violation of a constitutionally questionable law? An what about this soldiers right to free association? How many of these goofy Anti Immigrationists waited for 5,6,7 years to get a government stamp of approval before they got married?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4106695', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ThinkingRightLivingLeft</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/03/tanton-group-iraq-soldier/comment-page-2/#comment-4106680</link>
		<dc:creator>ThinkingRightLivingLeft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOP BUZZWORD BREAKDOWN

&quot;Rule of Law&quot; 

Q.  What is the penalty for Business owners who entice workers to violate federal immigration law, labor laws, and reporting regulations?

A. Possible fine and a stern talking to.

Q. What is the penalty for a foreign worker without proper authorization?


A. Apprehension, indefinite detainment (in a remotely located detention facility owned by a Haliburton Subsidiary), Deportation and a 10 year or permanent exile from the United States. Some detainees die as a result of  denial of medication necessary to sustain life such as Insulin for diabetics or statins for heart patients. Mixed status US Citizen families suffer separations from loved ones more severe for this civil infraction than robbers, murderers and rapists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOP BUZZWORD BREAKDOWN</p>
<p>&#8220;Rule of Law&#8221; </p>
<p>Q.  What is the penalty for Business owners who entice workers to violate federal immigration law, labor laws, and reporting regulations?</p>
<p>A. Possible fine and a stern talking to.</p>
<p>Q. What is the penalty for a foreign worker without proper authorization?</p>
<p>A. Apprehension, indefinite detainment (in a remotely located detention facility owned by a Haliburton Subsidiary), Deportation and a 10 year or permanent exile from the United States. Some detainees die as a result of  denial of medication necessary to sustain life such as Insulin for diabetics or statins for heart patients. Mixed status US Citizen families suffer separations from loved ones more severe for this civil infraction than robbers, murderers and rapists.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4106680', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: byfieldj</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/03/tanton-group-iraq-soldier/comment-page-2/#comment-4106659</link>
		<dc:creator>byfieldj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How Repub is this story!!!!

Greed is good, compasion is for fools, everything belongs to me, I got mine now throw the door closed, and devoid of empathy.

It&#039;s fine this young man has already risk his life twice and is going to place his life on the line for our country for a third time.  To demonstrate our support, respect and gratitude to this  young man we are going to send his wife and child to a thrid world country against his wishes.   

It is an outrage!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How Repub is this story!!!!</p>
<p>Greed is good, compasion is for fools, everything belongs to me, I got mine now throw the door closed, and devoid of empathy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fine this young man has already risk his life twice and is going to place his life on the line for our country for a third time.  To demonstrate our support, respect and gratitude to this  young man we are going to send his wife and child to a thrid world country against his wishes.   </p>
<p>It is an outrage!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4106659', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: texaslady</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/03/tanton-group-iraq-soldier/comment-page-2/#comment-4106459</link>
		<dc:creator>texaslady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#80 - The truth is if their country which is a very rich country would stop  their corruption they could live and earn a living at home. But that is a pipe dream and they prefer taking chances here than standing up to their government.   Mexico is much more harsh to law breakers than the U.S.

Breaking into other people&#039;s property is wrong, hungry tired or cold when literally 100&#039;s are doing it every week is it fair to people who have worked all their lives for their home.  And there is a fear of being hurt by the drug runners. 

It would be so easy to increase the immigration people, get a data bank going to list the incoming people.  There again someone will cry that is invasion of privacy, but my father&#039;s name is still listed in the archives of Ellis Island.  That is a small price to pay to come and earn a living.  But MAKE corporate pay taxes on these people to support the services.    

How is that ugly rhetoric ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#80 &#8211; The truth is if their country which is a very rich country would stop  their corruption they could live and earn a living at home. But that is a pipe dream and they prefer taking chances here than standing up to their government.   Mexico is much more harsh to law breakers than the U.S.</p>
<p>Breaking into other people&#8217;s property is wrong, hungry tired or cold when literally 100&#8217;s are doing it every week is it fair to people who have worked all their lives for their home.  And there is a fear of being hurt by the drug runners. </p>
<p>It would be so easy to increase the immigration people, get a data bank going to list the incoming people.  There again someone will cry that is invasion of privacy, but my father&#8217;s name is still listed in the archives of Ellis Island.  That is a small price to pay to come and earn a living.  But MAKE corporate pay taxes on these people to support the services.    </p>
<p>How is that ugly rhetoric ?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4106459', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: commonvalue</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/03/tanton-group-iraq-soldier/comment-page-2/#comment-4106387</link>
		<dc:creator>commonvalue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an immigrant whose brother is a marine, I am beyond words at the blindness and lack of compassion that the anti immigrant forces are exhibiting in this debate. We have a broken immigration system that is tearing families apart while the ultimate sacrifice-- putting your life on the line- cannot get even the slightest recognition. This is NOT about giving the wife of this soldier AMNESTY. Mark Krikorian is acting out of pure hatred and from a place that exposes where these &quot;think tanks&quot;really come from. Americans will soon realize this and it will mean the end of this ugly rhetoric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an immigrant whose brother is a marine, I am beyond words at the blindness and lack of compassion that the anti immigrant forces are exhibiting in this debate. We have a broken immigration system that is tearing families apart while the ultimate sacrifice&#8211; putting your life on the line- cannot get even the slightest recognition. This is NOT about giving the wife of this soldier AMNESTY. Mark Krikorian is acting out of pure hatred and from a place that exposes where these &#8220;think tanks&#8221;really come from. Americans will soon realize this and it will mean the end of this ugly rhetoric.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4106387', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Liberal_X</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/03/tanton-group-iraq-soldier/comment-page-2/#comment-4106212</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal_X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok i also am not an avid fan of illegal immigration.But still calling them names(thieves n such) is not the way to go.They are just trying to have a better life that america portrays through every media.Just like your father did though he came legally.My mother too came to america from japan when she way just a young adult.Married a white guy.Made me mixed race.My point america is land of dreams.Lets keep it that way.I hope you agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok i also am not an avid fan of illegal immigration.But still calling them names(thieves n such) is not the way to go.They are just trying to have a better life that america portrays through every media.Just like your father did though he came legally.My mother too came to america from japan when she way just a young adult.Married a white guy.Made me mixed race.My point america is land of dreams.Lets keep it that way.I hope you agree.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4106212', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: texaslady</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/03/tanton-group-iraq-soldier/comment-page-2/#comment-4106129</link>
		<dc:creator>texaslady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#77 I have lived in England (great healthcare system operating since 1945)  I have lived in Germany, Spain, visited China, Taiwan, Mexico, Guatamala.   Sorry that my travels are so narrow.   Have also lived in the U.S.  in Iowa (grew up there on a farm) Florida, Colorado, and Texas.    My father was a German immigrant came over in 1922 at the age of 19 THROUGH ELLIS ISLAND.   Became a citizen and paid taxes his whole life til he was 72, never took Social Security he loved working. 

Again, read what is going on here on the Texas border, it doesn&#039;t have to be that way.   More immigration officials, shorten the time to get in to the States, document with temporary work visas.   Could work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#77 I have lived in England (great healthcare system operating since 1945)  I have lived in Germany, Spain, visited China, Taiwan, Mexico, Guatamala.   Sorry that my travels are so narrow.   Have also lived in the U.S.  in Iowa (grew up there on a farm) Florida, Colorado, and Texas.    My father was a German immigrant came over in 1922 at the age of 19 THROUGH ELLIS ISLAND.   Became a citizen and paid taxes his whole life til he was 72, never took Social Security he loved working. </p>
<p>Again, read what is going on here on the Texas border, it doesn&#8217;t have to be that way.   More immigration officials, shorten the time to get in to the States, document with temporary work visas.   Could work.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4106129', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Liberal_X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberal_X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>make that 6 years......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>make that 6 years&#8230;&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4106099', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Liberal_X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberal_X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>texaslady u should travel.Go to singapore.I lived there for two years myself.My idea is every racist(not saying that you are racist) conservative should travel.That will make them a good liberal.I myself am living in my third country now.I know i strayed from the topic at hand.But what do i know about america&#039;s immigration.I haven&#039;t lived there for 7 years now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>texaslady u should travel.Go to singapore.I lived there for two years myself.My idea is every racist(not saying that you are racist) conservative should travel.That will make them a good liberal.I myself am living in my third country now.I know i strayed from the topic at hand.But what do i know about america&#8217;s immigration.I haven&#8217;t lived there for 7 years now.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4106092', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: old_hack</title>
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		<dc:creator>old_hack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kffjz-1vcgA</description>
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		<title>By: old_hack</title>
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		<dc:creator>old_hack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://youtube.com/watch?v=1bTcA1YQwrA

this is what you&#039;re promoting when you say &quot;Amnesty&quot;</description>
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<p>this is what you&#8217;re promoting when you say &#8220;Amnesty&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4106087', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: texaslady</title>
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		<dc:creator>texaslady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the problem was the soldier&#039;s wife has no documents, let them return to their homeland and come through legally and expedited because he has served in the military.  

THere is a big difference between immigration and illegally entering the country.  Look it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the problem was the soldier&#8217;s wife has no documents, let them return to their homeland and come through legally and expedited because he has served in the military.  </p>
<p>THere is a big difference between immigration and illegally entering the country.  Look it up.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4106053', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: texaslady</title>
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		<dc:creator>texaslady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the topic was illegal immigration that is where they cross the border and give the finger to Border Agents.    And my comment is how it can be stopped in 6 months if you care to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the topic was illegal immigration that is where they cross the border and give the finger to Border Agents.    And my comment is how it can be stopped in 6 months if you care to read.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4106041', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Liberal_X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberal_X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey texaslady we r talking about legal immigration....... not illegal immigration.....Go Join stormfront.org.You will be most welcome there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey texaslady we r talking about legal immigration&#8230;&#8230;. not illegal immigration&#8230;..Go Join stormfront.org.You will be most welcome there.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4106027', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: texaslady</title>
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		<dc:creator>texaslady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comity - come and live on the border, clean up the trash and human excrement left by the illegals crossing over, fix the broken fences and let your house be broken into and things stolen.  Lets see your compassion then.    And what about the 2 Agents doing their job and imprisoned for 10 years trying to stop a drug dealer.  

If you would read my early idea, you would place the blame where it should be.  We NEED more immigration people and a data bank using work visas (which we already have) cut the immigration time to two weeks for those wanting in .    Lets do some health checking on the immigrants as well, TB is showing up after years and years.   

And last, MAKE the companies that hire, pay the payroll taxes that cover the services the immigrants need.  

Right now  illegal is illegal and until we change the law...these people have broken our laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comity &#8211; come and live on the border, clean up the trash and human excrement left by the illegals crossing over, fix the broken fences and let your house be broken into and things stolen.  Lets see your compassion then.    And what about the 2 Agents doing their job and imprisoned for 10 years trying to stop a drug dealer.  </p>
<p>If you would read my early idea, you would place the blame where it should be.  We NEED more immigration people and a data bank using work visas (which we already have) cut the immigration time to two weeks for those wanting in .    Lets do some health checking on the immigrants as well, TB is showing up after years and years.   </p>
<p>And last, MAKE the companies that hire, pay the payroll taxes that cover the services the immigrants need.  </p>
<p>Right now  illegal is illegal and until we change the law&#8230;these people have broken our laws.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4105928', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: cmdc</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/03/tanton-group-iraq-soldier/comment-page-2/#comment-4105806</link>
		<dc:creator>cmdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These days, there seems to be no better way to derail a conversation  than to mention immigration.  A constructive conversation, that is.  Add &quot;illegal&quot; to the mix and there there are no holds barred -- even hate speech that was unacceptable not long ago, now thinly veiled under that label, has become acceptable.
I do hope that for a matter of this complexity we get to a point where we acknowledge that simplistic solutions are just that -- simplistic, and won&#039;t solve the problem.  We didn&#039;t get to this point in a day, and we are all intertwined with the workings of immigration and immigrants, whether positive or negative, and most reports would point is positive on the aggregate.
The story of this soldier is a microcosm of the subject, and deserves constructive deliberation. Let&#039;s give it that much.

On another note -- let&#039;s clarify that being a liberal and being a racist are not mutually exclusive, just like being a conservative and being racist are not mutually inclusive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These days, there seems to be no better way to derail a conversation  than to mention immigration.  A constructive conversation, that is.  Add &#8220;illegal&#8221; to the mix and there there are no holds barred &#8212; even hate speech that was unacceptable not long ago, now thinly veiled under that label, has become acceptable.<br />
I do hope that for a matter of this complexity we get to a point where we acknowledge that simplistic solutions are just that &#8212; simplistic, and won&#8217;t solve the problem.  We didn&#8217;t get to this point in a day, and we are all intertwined with the workings of immigration and immigrants, whether positive or negative, and most reports would point is positive on the aggregate.<br />
The story of this soldier is a microcosm of the subject, and deserves constructive deliberation. Let&#8217;s give it that much.</p>
<p>On another note &#8212; let&#8217;s clarify that being a liberal and being a racist are not mutually exclusive, just like being a conservative and being racist are not mutually inclusive.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4105806', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: texaslady</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/03/tanton-group-iraq-soldier/comment-page-2/#comment-4105681</link>
		<dc:creator>texaslady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#67  Living in Texas I thoroughly agree with you.  Several small town border hospitals have had to shut down because of so much free service to Mexican mothers coming across to have their babies, which then allows the whole family, which is all uncles, aunts, grandparents.  So it is not just one family.    

They also drop the children at the border, the kids walk across and go to school.  

But our President is a corporate cheerleader and corporates are benefiting by avoiding payroll taxes that pay for public services.
Doesn&#039;t anyone wonder why Border Agents doing their jobs are imprisoned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#67  Living in Texas I thoroughly agree with you.  Several small town border hospitals have had to shut down because of so much free service to Mexican mothers coming across to have their babies, which then allows the whole family, which is all uncles, aunts, grandparents.  So it is not just one family.    </p>
<p>They also drop the children at the border, the kids walk across and go to school.  </p>
<p>But our President is a corporate cheerleader and corporates are benefiting by avoiding payroll taxes that pay for public services.<br />
Doesn&#8217;t anyone wonder why Border Agents doing their jobs are imprisoned.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4105681', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: old_hack</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: old_hack</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/03/tanton-group-iraq-soldier/comment-page-2/#comment-4105605</link>
		<dc:creator>old_hack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why do you call people who want to secure our borders from Mexicans and Guatamalins a hater? He&#039;s just a concerned citizen in my view. And they didn&#039;t mention if the soldier was a citizen because he joined the military? and if She&#039;s b een here since she was 5 years old how come she never payed the admittance fee and go through the proper channels to obtain legal citizenship? 7,000 people a day are sneaking into our country. That&#039;s a problem. And most Mexicans don&#039;t want to join us they just want to create a new mexico in our country because they&#039;re not here to become Americans, They&#039;re here to escape the Mexican government. They don&#039;t like America and they don&#039;t appreciate what we are offering them. They need to learn how to respect our country if they&#039;re going to use us to escape the tyrrany of Mexico.

Every where we go in california we see pregnant mexican women becaus they are having children to obtain citizenship without having to go through the proper channels. And they stay undocumented so they can work in Mexican made and owned illegal factories and also so they can just go back and forth all they want laundering American money into Mexicos economy.

it&#039;s not right people. it&#039;s just not right and it&#039;s disrespectful to us who are offering them a better life.

anyone who thinks I&#039;m racist can stuff that thought up your ass. I&#039;m a liberal through and through. I just don&#039;t like people who think they&#039;re above the law. or don&#039;t respect our laws and culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why do you call people who want to secure our borders from Mexicans and Guatamalins a hater? He&#8217;s just a concerned citizen in my view. And they didn&#8217;t mention if the soldier was a citizen because he joined the military? and if She&#8217;s b een here since she was 5 years old how come she never payed the admittance fee and go through the proper channels to obtain legal citizenship? 7,000 people a day are sneaking into our country. That&#8217;s a problem. And most Mexicans don&#8217;t want to join us they just want to create a new mexico in our country because they&#8217;re not here to become Americans, They&#8217;re here to escape the Mexican government. They don&#8217;t like America and they don&#8217;t appreciate what we are offering them. They need to learn how to respect our country if they&#8217;re going to use us to escape the tyrrany of Mexico.</p>
<p>Every where we go in california we see pregnant mexican women becaus they are having children to obtain citizenship without having to go through the proper channels. And they stay undocumented so they can work in Mexican made and owned illegal factories and also so they can just go back and forth all they want laundering American money into Mexicos economy.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s not right people. it&#8217;s just not right and it&#8217;s disrespectful to us who are offering them a better life.</p>
<p>anyone who thinks I&#8217;m racist can stuff that thought up your ass. I&#8217;m a liberal through and through. I just don&#8217;t like people who think they&#8217;re above the law. or don&#8217;t respect our laws and culture.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4105605', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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