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Gen. Peter Pace For President?

By Amanda on Oct 4th, 2007 at 12:34 pm

Gen. Peter Pace For President?»

pacebutton.jpg On Monday, the National Review wrote an editorial calling on Virginia to draft Gen. Peter Pace to run for Senate. “Virginia Republicans should tell this devoted patriot that he is not done, and encourage him to take on another mission,” wrote the editors.

Today, Joseph Farah on WorldNetDaily takes the Pace-mania a step further, pushing Pace for president. As evidence that Pace is a “thoughtful straight shooter” full of “candor and honesty,” Farah highlights the general’s public remarks that homosexuality is “immoral” and a “sin.” From his piece:

What Pace had said last March wasn’t exactly controversial in my eyes: “I do not believe the United States is well served by a policy that says it is OK to be immoral in any way.” […]

You know Pace speaks for the vast majority of Americas on this issue, but most today would be too intimidated by the forces of political correctness to say it so forcefully and unflinchingly. […]

And that’s why I wish a good man like Peter Pace would consider serving his country one more time — not in uniform, but as commander in chief.

Is it too late for 2008?

How about a draft Peter Pace movement?

I don’t know where he stands on the other major issues of the day, but he is clearly a man of courage and conviction. And that’s a good start.

Beyond Pace’s highly-criticized bigoted remarks, a good place to start looking at his stance on “other major issues of the day” is Iraq.

Pace has been a consistent defender of the Bush administration’s failed policies, insisting in 2006 that everything in Iraq is “going very, very well from everything you look at” and claiming that Donald Rumsfeld “leads in a way that the good Lord tells him is best for our country.” He also stepped in to write a letter during the Valerie Plame leak trial endorsing Scooter Libby’s character, specifically noting his “selfless” nature.

Pace will have some stiff competition for right-wing affection if he decides to become a candidate. Gen. David Petraeus has “expressed long-term interest in running for the US presidency” and last month, The New York Sun wrote an editorial pushing him to join the race. The Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol has expressed a dream of having Petraeus and Fred Thompson on a ticket together.

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91 Responses to “Gen. Peter Pace For President?”

  1. lefty Says:

    Why don’t you just ASK for a military dictatorship?


  2. republicans are the Fear and Smear Party Says:

    The pit of incompetent republican presidential nominees is obviously bottomless.


  3. Nevar Says:

    (snicker)


  4. lefty Says:

    Based upon recent hubbub, I’m sure THIS presidential candidate’s service and military records would be off-limits to political attacks, right? God could you be more obvious?


  5. Menehune Says:

    Another trial balloon. Another sinker.


  6. texaslady Says:

    Oh why not Peter, and there are many other good Republicans that are out of work, Delay, Craig (soon) Dominici, on and on, oh wait, they have to work out those pesky legal charges first.


  7. jb Says:

    Preznut PP….give me a break. This insipid empty political posturing may trickle down to Hell and end up making Raygun look lucid.


  8. dim wit Says:

    Pace?

    Sure? Why not? The Republicans could use another loser running for president, because, as I am sure we all know, the list of Republican losers can never be too long.


  9. Rebel in CA Says:

    By all means lets have junta; it has worked so well in Mayanmar NOT


  10. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    Pace for Prez…why not?

    It’s not like the Repukes have actually fielded any serious candidates yet…


  11. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    The Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol has expressed a dream of having Petraeus and Fred Thompson on a ticket together.

    What a great ticket! One is a guy who makes a living reading lines written by someone else…and the other is a Hollywood actor. ^_^


  12. tarazan Says:

    For America to get on the right track, candidates should be independent.
    I don’t think either Giuliani or Hillary is the answer now…they are a continuation of the same.
    Pace will be also a continuation of the same. I think Gravel, R. Paul, Kucinic will not be continuation of the same.
    If Hillary wins (which I doubt it ;I doubt even she got 53% of Democrats support),there will be no major change..she will start a war in no time if her supporters tell her to.
    The money game is big,and this needs to stop.
    Candidates need to be of a quality that put people first instead of the political donors .


  13. jb Says:

    The war mongering, spend and borrow, GOP has nearly destroyed our country. No wonder they can only get empty suits to run for office.


  14. missmolly Says:

    Geez — another “celebrity” candidate. Will the Repubs ever get somebody with some actual political experience and give up on the window dressing? You have to admit that a mayor whose 15 minutes of fame has passed, a television actor, and a retired general primarily known for homophobic remarks makes for a pretty comical lineup.

    Not that I’m excusing the Dems — of the three top candidates, who would have ever believed that Hillary would be the one with the most experience holding political office at a national level?


  15. Jackie Says:

    Republicans push the Christian Values/Morals for two elections and the results were most that stood for it were not doing it. Fingers Foley, Tom DeLay, Senator Craig, Senator Vitters, Doolittle, Calvert, President Bush, Dick Cheney, Al Gonzales and the list goes on.
    Hating gays is not Christian in God /Jesus teaching.
    It’s the language and soul of Satan. General Pace has the right words the Bush Base wants to hear of hate but will he turn out to be like his followers. Remember the Pastors the fell from Grace after they got government money base on the teachings of the Bible. It’s time man kept God and the Bible out of the Government and run on honest and willingness to serve the American People. General Pace will not give
    American Children Health Care or decent medial care to the troops. He will follow the Bush/Cheney Policy to invade countries for oil.
    Republicans are lost with no honest decent leader so next we’ll hear the Bush Base wants Rush, O’Reilly, Matthews, Katie, Matt, Jack Bauer, Homer Simpson or maybe bring someone back from the dead because they have so many losers with no honest candidates.

    Satan has been running the Bush base and the GOP/White House it’s time to let God back in America.


  16. Krazny Says:

    Actually Pace is a perfect candidate, he would help keep the evangelical voters within the republican ranks. The evangelicals are threatening to bolt over the current candidates. Plus would appeal to the war hard on crowd, and a good portion of traditional conservatives. Especially against say Hillary Clinton.


  17. maxamillion Says:

    Run Pete Run!!!


  18. spearNmagicHelmet Says:

    all hail the american jackass.


  19. Bobwurst Says:

    We could model our democracy after Pakistan’s, complete with a baffoon/militaryman as weak puppetpresident.


  20. Keltoi Says:

    Not that I’m excusing the Dems — of the three top candidates, who would have ever believed that Hillary would be the one with the most experience holding political office at a national level?
    Comment by missmolly — October 4, 2007 @ 12:56 pm

    No kidding. Even Maureed Dowd said Hillary would be running for President of Vasser if it wasn’t for her marriage to Bill….


  21. slappy magoo Says:

    It’s like they’re taunting everyone on the left with their contempt for this country and its laws. Here’s a General who has embraced this Administration and all of its corrupt illegal actions regarding the war. But because he’s on our side, we’ll say he’s moral and righteous and virtuous and Presidential timbre and kill anyone who tries to prove us wrong. Don’t tell us how things are, we’ll tell you how we think things should be as IF that’s how they are, you’ll accept that as reality, or incur our wrath.


  22. Clumberfeet Says:

    Would John Robert Bolton former recess appointed US Representative to the UN take Richard Bruce ‘Dick’ Cheney’s place?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bolton


  23. Leftside Annie Says:

    President Pace? Vice President Petraeus?

    America: BIGOT NATION


  24. hellinabucket Says:

    I hope the Gen. jumps into the republomess campaign. They can all try to out 9/11 each other.


  25. Jim Says:

    Republicans still believe that their political platform has appeal among the American public, and that they just haven’t found the right candidate to deliver that platform. What they can’t seem to accept is that the platform itself–a political ideology based on torture, secrecy, corruption, gerrymandering, cronyism, despotism, bigotry, and war–is unacceptable to all but the forever-loyal 28% who will vote Republican to their last breaths.

    First it was John McCain who was going to rescue the party. Then it was Rudy Giuliani. Then Mitt Romney. Mike Huckabee was a flavor of the month. Then Fred Thompson. Now that Republicans are already getting bored with Thompson, they think General Pace–whom they’re going to try to package as above reproach because he’s a military guy–is their savior. There’s nothing that can be done about the Republican Party’s state of denial. It’s far too deeply entrenched for them to start being self-critical at this late stage.


  26. incunabulum Says:

    First of all, the Cons always talk about how they want someone with military experience in the White House. Well, they had a chance to vote for John Kerry and look at what they did instead.

    Second of all, considering his views on homosexuality, I’d like to see Pace head up that 3rd party that Dobson and other social cons keep talking about. He’d be great for it.


  27. Buckie Boy Says:

    Donald Rumsfeld “leads in a way that the good Lord tells him, uh, GOOD LORD, so a GOOD LORD likes killing thousands of innocent people, oh wait I’ve read the bible too, yeah, he does like killing thousands of innocent people, forgot about that.
    homosexuality is “immoral” and a “sin.” Not my cup of tea, but it is not my job to judge others on their personal lives. And about “sin”, so gay is a “sin” but killing thousands is not, oh I see, I’ve had that backwards all this time.

    Give me a break, we don’t need religious zealots killing anymore people this century.

    Buck Fush


  28. Leftside Annie Says:

    Ah, yes, #29 - that would be the shiny new Christofascist Party!

    YAY!!


  29. Nevar Says:

    Kudos to TP for the campaign button design.

    It would be even funnier if the Pace Salsa logo could be used, however I’m sure there would be problems with that.

    When I hear ‘Peter Pace’, all I am reminded of is the TV commercial with the crusty old cowboys and the chuckwagon cook who forgot to
    “pick up the Pace”


  30. 8thAvatar Says:

    I heard that Pace is going to start his own “security company” and rightly so, there so much potential for growth at least till 2013..


  31. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    I think that General Pace is a perfect candidate for a Christian third-party and I hope they build that party around him. They’ve been calling people like Rudy “baby killers” for decades now. Time for them to put up or shut up. Let’s have a christian third party and let Peter Pace be their standard bearer.


  32. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    Nevar sez:

    When I hear ‘Peter Pace’, all I am reminded of is the TV commercial with the crusty old cowboys and the chuckwagon cook who forgot to “pick up the Pace”

    I can just see it now…a bunch of cowboys in a voting booth:

    Cowboy1: “It says here that this “Hil’reh Clinton” skirt is from New York City!”

    Rest of cowboys: “NEW YORK CITY?!?!?!?!?”


  33. Sam Thornton Says:

    I believe I understand Gen. Pace’s stance, except I’m still unsure whether it’s a wide stance.


  34. Veritas Says:

    Seig Heil, Pace!


  35. Jim Says:

    #34: Be careful what you wish for.


  36. Veritas Says:

    Pace is so out of touch with mainstream america that it’s pathetic. Does he try to find new ways to express his bigotry or what? This guy is a disgrace and a sham of a human being.


  37. toasterhead Says:

    Today, Joseph Farah on WorldNetDaily takes the Pace-mania a step further, pushing Pace for president.

    I’m sorry - WorldNetDaily? Why are we citing this as a credible source? As a sane source, no less? He’s about a step above the Time Cube guy in terms of sanity.


  38. Veritas Says:

    Let’s take “three Paces back” and you’ll find Bush 41 hiding ‘neath Peter’s coattails! More of the same will certainly tank this country down the toilet.


  39. Xisithrus Says:

    Pace is calling the Veeps daughter immoral and a sinner?

    Why, Dick Cheney outta demote and fire him!!


  40. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    toasterhead sez:

    He’s about a step above the Time Cube guy in terms of sanity.

    Ooooooh…a Time Cube reference…it’s been a while since I visited his site. Reading his disconnected rants is like taking a vacation as a crazy person.


  41. Veritas Says:

    toasterhead: Precisely my sentiment - World Net Daily?? Who the F are they to be cited here anyway? Some radical christofascist fringe of christkooks and sieg heil wingnuts?


  42. Xisithrus Says:

    I wonder where Daryll is? He oughta be showing up any minute now.

    Betelgeuse Betelgeuse Betelgeuse!


  43. Veritas Says:

    That’s right. Before Pace even gets a campaign off the ground, he’ll be beheaded for calling Cheney’s daughter “immoral”.


  44. Veritas Says:

    A Pace/Betray-us ticket: More Betrayal for your buck! How american can you get?


  45. toasterhead Says:

    Reading his disconnected rants is like taking a vacation as a crazy person.

    Comment by TripMaster Monkey — October 4, 2007 @ 1:21 pm

    And with the 42-point type, it’s also a vacation as a legally-blind person.


  46. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    Jim: “Be careful what you wish for.”

    Jim, I’m a liberal. What could possibly be bad about Pace being at the top of a conservative christian third-party? At my end of the political spectrum, the Green Party had a major role in installing Bush as president. Without the Green Party and Ralph Nader in 2000, Gore wins easily. If just one in ten Florida voters had decided to vote Gore instead of Nader, Gore wins Florida. If one in ten New Hampshire voters decides on Gore instead of Nader, Gore wins New Hampshire.

    Repubs have hitched their electoral goals to conservative, born-again christians for decades now. They lose that voting block, they’re finished, period.


  47. StratRat Says:

    Let’s have a christian third party and let Peter Pace be their standard bearer.

    Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper

    Um, Colonel. That sorta goes against the Constitution, doesn’t it? I thought ‘We The People’ meant all the people.


  48. The Dogfather Says:

    We Virginians tend not to support ultra reichwingnuts like Pace — even the VA repubs had the sense not to support Ollie North (an earlier-generation Pacenik) in his attempt to run for Senate not so long ago…


  49. tarazan Says:

    And if Pace can’t make it to be a president…he can coach the ‘Indiana Pacers’….


  50. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    “Rory” sez:

    Just like the “evidence” that Larry Craig is a homosexual.

    The difference, of course, being that Craig pled guilty….


  51. Pete Bogs Says:

    why do they always bring up political correctness after they say something wrong?


  52. missmolly Says:

    Considering the political climate in the US its a wonder anyone runs for office.

    Comment by Vendetta — October 4, 2007 @ 12:59 pm

    I sure wouldn’t. Would you? Even if I had no objection to getting trashed by the opposition on a daily basis, the amount of money it would require is obscene. And then I’d be beholden to all those special interests who paid to get me elected instead of being free to pursue an agenda best for the country.

    Because of that money issue, I don’t expect Pace to do anything except act coy for awhile — if he announces at all, it will be after enough money has been laid in his lap.


  53. texaslady Says:

    Many of our military Arab translaters were let go for being homosexual. Now lets see, let go of your most intelligent people that could detour a possible threat because of their lifestyle. Sure that makes sense. Stick your high minded morals where the sun can’t shine Pace.


  54. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    Statrat: “Um, Colonel. That sorta goes against the Constitution, doesn’t it?”

    No, actually there is nothing in the constitution which would prevent anyone from forming any political party of any kind. And, they’re the ones considering a christian third party, not me. I’m just pointing out that it would splinter the conservative movement and help Democrats get elected.


  55. Mugsy Says:

    Newt Gingrich spoke about these non-issues “morality, God, etc” as the primary concerns of Republicans in the coming election.

    It shows how deluded/detached from reality these people are. The nation is at war on two fronts and threatening a third. The EIGHTH YEAR of Bush’s so-called “War on Terror” is going to cost over $1 TRILLION dollars in a war we were promised would take no more than six months and cost under $2 Billion dollars. Between the war and obscene tax cuts for the wealthiest 1/2 of 1%, the National Debt is EXPLODING where just eight years ago we were running surpluses.

    But *they* want someone that thinks “gays are immoral” and thinks the path to peace is impose Christianity at the point of a gun upon the rest of the world.


  56. Xisithrus Says:

    Considering the political climate in the US its a wonder anyone runs for office. Comment by Vendetta

    They dont do it for the office, I think, but for the contacts.


  57. landofthefree Says:

    Wow. You know the GOP is truly desperate and completely underwhelmed by their candidates when they’re willing to even publically toy with the idea of nominating someone who is knee-deep in the failed Iraq war (not to mention a lying bigot… of course the GOP doesn’t mind that in a candidate. But, I would think they wouldn’t want anyone on the campaign trail who has direct ties to the war and fully supports it.)


  58. Badmoodman Says:

    I like the “Designed by TP” next to the button.
    Why is there this drumbeat to nominate military people ONLY when we’re fighting a war?


  59. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    Mugsy, I think the vast majority of Americans are tired of these heretics who call themselves “christians.”


  60. landofthefree Says:

    missmolly #55: I agree. The only people who would likely want to run would either be already obscenely wealthy and have a huge ego to be fed, or people who are obscenely wealthy and really want to make a positive difference but will have to be willling to sell out a bit of their integrity to special interests.

    I highly doubt Pace or Petraeus will run. They can make a lot more money in the lecture circuit without being ripped to shreds in politics.


  61. Nevar Says:

    At this pace, the Republican party will peter out before the primaries…


  62. gak Says:

    now that the cult of republicanism has established that it is unpatriotic to criticize all republican-supporting military persons, running a General for POTUS becomes the perfect political strategy. He’ll be able to spew any number of lies, deceptions, and betrayals and no one will be able to say anything against him. what a great setup.
    .


  63. StratRat Says:

    I’m just pointing out that it would splinter the conservative movement and help Democrats get elected.

    Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper

    Fair enough. With that context, I agree with you. My point was that there should not be a religous litmus test for the candidates because America is made up of many, many different viewpoints - some of which do not consider religion at all. We mustn’t alienate any segment of our nation.


  64. dim wit Says:

    We mustn’t alienate any segment of our nation.

    Comment by StratRat — October 4, 2007 @ 1:48 pm

    We’ll just let them allienate us.


  65. dim wit Says:

    PLEASE DO NOT STOP YOUR LUNACY!

    Comment by Godfather2 — October 4, 2007 @ 1:53 pm

    Please do not stop yours either


  66. Xisithrus Says:

    Then again, after all of your lies and shameful sedition

    I guess you missed where Rush called the troops phony, David Hunt [FOX] called the Generals betrayors, and Ann Coulter called them malcontents?

    And BTW I have not called them any of those things.

    Nice Try.


  67. Krazny Says:

    Don’t forget Ann Coulter saying the 9/11 widows reveled in the deaths of their husbands.


  68. rjmadrid05 Says:

    Is Fred Thompson going to pick Mariska Hargitay and Sam Waterston to be in their cabinet?


  69. StratRat Says:

    We’ll just let them allienate us.

    Comment by dim wit

    That’s their call (R’s or D’s). I would hope all Americans could participate in the debate’s which are vital to our future. The voters need to wake up and believe they can make an impact on their government. After so many years of no oversight, it might seem impossible, but we can take back this country and it’s rule of law. 2008 is the year to do it.


  70. Xisithrus Says:

    Don’t forget Ann Coulter saying the 9/11 widows reveled in the deaths of their husbands.

    That she did, that she did.


  71. Jim Says:

    #49: What could possibly be bad about Pace being at the top of a conservative christian third-party?

    I don’t disagree with any of the points you’ve made. I agree that Nader’s presence in the 2000 election threw the election to Bush. I just wouldn’t want to see the Republican Party mutate into an even more bigoted, even more corrupt entity than it already is. Then again, maybe we should just give up on it and hope that it splinters into a million pieces.


  72. Jim Says:

    #67: Then again, after all of your lies and shameful sedition, this would be a fine opportunity for you to get behind one of our real soldiers and show him how much you support the troops.

    Why in the world would anyone “get behind” General Pace, other than to smack him on the back of the head for his repeated lies in support of a failed war policy?

    Supporting the troops, for me, means opposing people like Pace and the other Republican lunatics who sent them into an illegal and immoral war.


  73. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    Did Godfather2 just imply that Wesley Clark is not a “real” (and, therefore, a “phony”) soldier? What a “rush” statement.


  74. bilbobaggins Says:

    Farah highlights the general’s public remarks that homosexuality is “immoral” and a “sin.” From his piece:

    Well, the religious right is looking for a candidate and Pace would suit their needs quite nicely. He would also be very easy to beat considering how effective he was in Iraq.


  75. bilbobaggins Says:

    For America to get on the right track, candidates should be independent.

    I so agree. My dream method for choosing a President and Vice President would be to run the top 10 candidates who get the most signatures on a petition (requiring petition workers to be volunteer only) between a certain start date and a certain end date. Then hold a general primary and everyone can vote for two candidates. After that, take the top four candidates and have them run in a final election, the top vote getter becoming President and the second high vote getter being Vice President.

    Wouldn’t that be novel? It would give us the chance to vote for whom we want to without regard to their political party affiliation. Just find the two in the primary who mostly are aligned with your beliefs and then do the same thing in the final vote.


  76. bilbobaggins Says:

    You people hate the millitary and the American people are starting to see that for themselves.
    PLEASE DO NOT STOP YOUR LUNACY!
    Comment by Godfather2

    The only military the American people hate are the military who have been complicit with Bush in the travesty that is Iraq. I’m fairly sure that the 70% of Americans who want us out of Iraq are not particularly fond of any of the top brass that got us there and kept us there.

    The only LUNACY that is going on here is the mindset that thinks they can keep doing the same thing over and over and over again expecting a different outcome.

    Welcome Right Wing Loon Godfather2. We always like to welcome new Right Wing Loons to TP where they will immediately be eviscerated by the talented crew of posters here.


  77. impeachcheneythenbush Says:

    I can remember ONE thing that Pace said/did that I admired. When the press asked Rummy what should happen if U.S. troops saw an Iraqi being mistreated by either U.S. or Iraqi troops, Rummy said it should be reported. Pace said it should be STOPPED first, and reported later. It was (at least publically) the first and last time he ever stood up to Rummy. Keep in mind, the Chairman of the JCS is to report DIRECTLY to the President; NOT the SecDef. Rummy changed all that. Illegally, I might note.


  78. Leftside Annie Says:

    GF2 - we’re very fond of generals, but we only like the ones who TELL THE TRUTH.

    The ones who lie and carry water for the Bushtards, not so much.


  79. theswan Says:

    This guy will be trashed from day one, and with good reason. Bring him on!


  80. hellinabucket Says:

    “you people”. Nice box GF2.


  81. dafletcha Says:

    Yes, please, please, run, Gen. Pace! Splinter the Repulican base even further. You’d be doing your country a great service.


  82. Krazny Says:

    Comment by Godfather2 — October 4, 2007 @ 3:01 pm

    Okay my rightard to english dictionary translates this as “snurffle the purple extremes” or ” dig dug dead, the cat, cat” anyone else got any better translations?


  83. lefty Says:

    Dear Godfather2,

    Every single deranged thought in your last post is an example of why you on the right are not winning a single argument anymore. Your bipolar Manichean view is a complete failure. Not only has it translated into foreign policy disaster, but the independent middle has realized that you are talking to them, not just the “far left”.

    You are giving people no choice but to follow you or oppose you and it’s backfiring. They hear your psychotic rants and demonizing liberals as pro-terrorist and anti-troop and they’re not buying it. Please keep it up and drive the fascist convoy right off the cliff for good.


  84. candide Says:

    THIS is the reason the Democrats who supported the bill to censure MoveOn were fools. Now let the Repugs put some birdbrain right wing militarist with cabbage on his chest up for high office and he will be off limits for any criticism because he is a “Patriotic, Self-Sacrificing, Honorable, Valiant Soldier”!! Forget the fact that his leadership has been a miserable failure, and he is just another patsy for this damnable administration…he is a SOLDIER. Bow down and kiss his feet, minions.


  85. missmolly Says:

    Comment by Godfather2 — October 4, 2007 @ 3:01 pm

    Okay my rightard to english dictionary translates this as “snurffle the purple extremes” or ” dig dug dead, the cat, cat” anyone else got any better translations?

    Comment by Krazny — October 4, 2007 @ 3:07 pm

    I can see why your translator is having problems with Godfather2’s post — this post DOES defy logic. But here’s what my translator comes up with:

    Rush is God.
    Liberals are bad.
    You are stupid.
    I can’t rebut any of your actual criticism of Rush, so I will make a meaningless and vague accusation concerning your arguments.
    Vietnam war protesters were bad, but they were better than you.
    Bill Clinton is bad.
    You support Al Qaeda.
    You are like Osama bin Laden.
    You are cowards.
    You are bad liberals. Bad, liberals, bad, bad, bad.

    In other words, it’s pretty much just random raving without any real substance. I hope this helps!


  86. RUCerious Says:

    Is there a Peter Pace Principle?


  87. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    Godfather: “Bow down in wonder at the glory that is Rush Limbaugh, you insignificant liberal.”

    Since you were probably home schooled by religious fanatics, I can see why you wouldn’t be aware of this, but Americans don’t “bow down.” 230 years ago, I’m sure the royalists were saying “bow down in wonder at the glory that is King George II, you insignificant colonists.”

    Now, these days many members of your party bend over, but bow down? No.


  88. katy Says:


    but… virginia is for lovers… not?


  89. Jim Says:

    #85: It is one thing to be a seditious Al Queaeda symmpathizer whose political rants are practically indistinguishable from Bin Laden, but to compound your sins with cowardice makes a laughing stock of you all.

    This is instructive–Exhibit A of why people are fleeing the Republican Party in droves. Godfather2 and other Republican 28%-dead-enders cannot tell the difference between patriotic Americans who disagree with them and “Al Queaeda sympathizers.” They have no idea, for instance, that Al Qaeda and the Republican Party are both right-wing organizations that desperately need each other for survival. They believe that liberals approve of terrorism. With each passing day, their outrageous rhetoric alienates more Americans who want the war in Iraq to end. I think rhetoric like this probably helps Democrats in the short term, but it is ultimately bad for the country.


  90. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    >I’m sorry - WorldNetDaily? Why are we citing this as a credible source?

    Ah World Net Daily, who have brought us such brilliant articles as “Soy Makes you Gay” (not a joke: http://worldnetdaily.com/ news/ article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327 )
    and the oft’ troll quoted ” bin laden told me he had nukes and I beleive him” (or something like that)


  91. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    >They have no idea, for instance, that Al Qaeda and the Republican Party >are both right-wing organizations that desperately need each other for >survival.

    Right, bin laden is anti-tax, anti-abortion, and thinks there should be more religion in government. Specificially, he thinks there should be more god in government. (yes you righttards, you do know that Allah is arabic for “god”, dont you)?

    Anybody think GOdfather is probably Mr. P rearing his ugly head again? his lame previous attempts at legal reasoning make him out to be the same sort of philosopher wanna be that P was…



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