have a pleasant evening.

you make it sound as though the troops have absolutely no voice, when it is anything but. as i said in a previous post, the program that follows rush is randi rhodes who is carried by air america, a broadcasting corporation identified chiefly by their liberal political views. if you tune in to her, i’m sure there will be no shortage of every variable that is fueling this controversy.

I agree with you that McGough’s add needs to be heard! And what Rush said was unforgivable and ridiculous!!!! Clearchannel should run the ad! If Rush is such a coward then doesnt it make sense that he is more than likely the reason behind why CC didnt want to run the ad? I blame Rush, not CC.

If you can find a copy of the real FULL letter it states that Clearchannel doesnt have a problem with running the ads, just not during Rush’s airtime. Which makes sense…who know’s if Rush is a coward or not? Why doesnt McGough run the commercials during a different spot? Then his voice can be heard loud and clear!

I just left a message asking why this ad wasn’t ran and why Rush won’t let Brian McGough on the show to defend his position. I left my number so let’s see if he calls back…

I encourage all of you to call as well.

They also refuse to carry pro-choice ads in which women die from exsanguination when they tried to abort using a coat hanger.

What’s your point? Other than you seem to have an affinity for bloody advertisements. . . .

George W. Bush’s great-grandfather, US Senator Prescott Bush, was not necessarily a Nazi sympathizer. He DID however profit from his alliance with the financial backers of Nazi Germany until The Department of Justice seized his company’s assets were in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act.

Thanks to D. Campbell for the correction.

The wounded are transported at night to the hospital for a purpose. To keep us from thinking that there are over 27,000 severely wounded young men and women.

But this thread is about Rush and his ignorant rant isn’t it ?

But we were not talking about Craig and Murtha now were we?
Rush is the subject and you never answered if you know why did the original transcript get edited? I’ll try to find out and inform you.

While going home with my wife last week, she stopped at an intersection and I kept going. Mind you, at the time, I was on my newest toy, a vehicle I’m building as my answer to the gas problem, a three-wheeled cargo-hauling bike (or more appropriately, trike). I stop, realize the light’s turning yellow, then kick backwards to catch back up with my wife and exit the intersection. Exit the intersection I did, just not the way I thought I would. The rear wheels hit the curb, and then the rest of the trike kept rotating, and threw me off like a bucking bronco. I caught my fall with my right hand at an awkward angle. Ow-wee. Did that ever hurt.

I rightened my trike, pulled it back onto the sidewalk, cursed mightily, then got back on and realized that that wrist would hurt for a while–it was already stiffening up and my grip was gone. I rode the rest of the way relying on an old technology that I’m glad still is used on trikes. All I gotta say is “Thank God for Coaster Breaks.”

We got home, and my wife told me that maybe a trip to the Health Center was advised. I’m like, “it’s just sprained, I can handle it.” She said, “No, go look. It’s covered.” Am I ever glad I got it looked at.

In the process of stopping 215lbs of weight with a single wrist, I managed to knock a bone in that wrist out of alignment. If I’d not gotten the wrist looked at, I could have permanently damaged it, all for the mistaken belief that I don’t need to see a professional.

NecessaryEvil, this is where you fail. Preventive medicine can save in tens of thousands of billable dollars down the road for corrective medicine. Going to the doctor to make sure that the headache and sniffles you have is not something worse than a cold could make the difference between being told ‘take two aspirin and call me in the morning” and being told “your wife needs to go to the emergency room so we can put four bags of saline drip in her.” Going to the doctor with a throbbing wrist makes the difference between a few hours of consultation and wrist brace versus surgery and recovery.

In short, if health insurance companies wanted to make an ethical profit, they’d be telling us “Get your yearly physical. See your GP on a regular basis, _even if you don’t think you need to!_ Listen to your health care provider.” They’d encourage routine physicals and mental wellness on the basis that it costs a lot less to get a routine physical, visit your family doctor when you feel ill, keep your mind in working order, and in general take care of yourself than it does to fix the big problems that started small.

Health insurance doesn’t do this. In fact, it tries to screw you coming and going, making you pay for routine physicals out of pocket, refusing to pay for preventive medicines (birth control keeps you from making babies. $30 a month vs. over a thousand for a baby’s birth or $300 for an elective abortion (which they deny too)), and in general making lives of us consumers unnecessarily painful.

Too all of you right-wingers arguing that socialized medicine doesn’t work? Obviously, neither does capitalistic medicine.

Let’s see – your house was constructed under gov’t building permits (if you live in a city of any size), your food (especially meat and poultry) is inspected by gov’t food inspectors (unless you slaughter your on meat, grow your own vegatables, and have your own cow and chickens), and that nice car you’re driving rides on roads paid for by gov’t taxes.

You’re like Rush regarding his raging, uncontrollable, drug addiction – you live in the State of DENIAL.

The trolls in here are still silent about Rush’s cowardly refusal to have McGough on his show.

Yesterday, one of the other idiot trolls who lurks in here, claimed (actually offered to bet me) on another thread that Rush would invite McGough on the show today. I’m waiting…

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They have emergency rooms and free clinics all over the country. And if you are making enough money to have 2 cars and a home with a pool and a cell phone and cable you can afford healthcare.

Comment by ANeccessaryEvil — October 4, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
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They turn people down because of the costs of medical care being so high since well, gov’t gets involved and forces prices down and having all the paperwork so high.

If people paid out of pocket they would less likely go to the doctors for a fever or headache or hang nail under the blind assumption that it is free since I have health insurance.

Oh, I feel sick let me go to the doctor. The doctor’s response, ” Take some aspirin and a nap.”

Comment by ANeccessaryEvil — October 4, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
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It seems that ‘ANeccessaryEvil’’s moniker may be a statement about his political affiliation. I agree, there are reasons for the right-wing to exist, but for right now, the time for the right-wing to give up its power has long since arrived.

OK, ‘ANecessaryEvil’, you advocate using an emergency room or free clinic for your health care needs if you cannot get insurance for any reason.

Free clinics? Where the hell are those?! The only ‘free clinic’ I know of is the Auraria Campus health center, which is only free to students who pay the health center fee and who have insurance through one of the three institutions that are based on Auraria campus. Otherwise, nothing ‘free’ in Denver, health wise.

Emergency Rooms? Uh, what makes you think those are free? Trust me, they’re anything _but_ free.

There are several major problems with American healthcare that I’m going to get into. During that process, I’m going to also dispell ol’ Evil’s contention that people use health insurance for frivolous things.

Health Insurance for profit’s main goal is to make money, just like every other business. Unlike ethical businesses, who offer top-rate service for fair prices, and providing that service when it is needed, for-profit insurance does everything in its power to deny claims.

Case in point.

Back in December of 2005, my wife came down with a bug. It started innocently enough, sniffles and coughs, headache and fever. Felt like another fall-time cold. Well, it got worse. Soon it turned into diarreah, and then it turned into vomiting, and then it culminated in her, lieing on the floor, unable to move, after an over-hour-long-session in the bathroom, purging contents of her GI tract from both ends, with me desparately on the phone to both her mother and my mother, figuring out what to do. The two mom’s instructions started our little saga. “Call 911, and do it now.” I was resistant, not wanting to get involved with the health system, but hey, she was insured, and she’s my wife, and she was currently laying on the ground, virtually passed out.

The trip to the hospital was scary. Paramedics worried about her to-low bloodpressure and her too-high heart rate, her fever, and before that journey was done, they’d put two whole bags of saline solution into her arm. The lead paramedic was stunned at how pale she was. Mind you, this is more astounding given the fact that my wife is _black_, so pale isn’t a term you normally hear with dark-skinned beauties like her. But she was pale…her palms were white as a sheet and the rest of her body was not that much darker. She stayed in the hospital for two nights, being filled with saline drip and nutrients, her stomach totally unable to handle solid food. She was given two sets of pills when she finally was ready to go home, and told to eat food that was easy on her stomach.

This two day period scared the hell out of me, but the real saga was to begin six months later.

For six months, nothign happened. We received our insurance deductable bill, and everything seemed to be in order. Then one fine summers day, I go check the mail and what do I see but a bill collector letter. Then the calls start coming in. $700. $1200. $1700. $2200. All these numbers are being thrown around. I’m like: WTF!? Finally, I call the hospital, bypassing the greedy bill collector and get to the root of the problem. $1200 is owed to the hospital because the insurance company denied the claim. Why, you ask? “Not a life-threatening emergency.”

I will repeat that. “Not a life threatening emergency.” My wife, lieing on the ground, unable to move. “Not a life threatening emergency.” My wife, lieing on an ambulance gurney, unconscious as they pour saline solution into her veins. “Not a life threatening emergency.” My wife, pale as Death itself. “Not a life threatening emergency.” I blew up. The Hospital went back and forth with the health insurance company. It took them six months, while T and I held the parasitic bill collectors at bay (they insisted we owed them $1700 for the hospital and $1000 for the ambulance, when those numbers were $1200 and $700 respectively). “Oh, we can set up a bill payment plan.” “LOOK, ASSHOLE, WE DON’T OWE A BLOODY CENT SO GET LOST!” It took a FDCPA letter to shut them down, but eventually, in January of 2007, we finally got the claim processed, or so we thought. In March, they started harrassing us again. Ambulance service denied yet again. Cause? “Out of Network.”

Let me repeat that too. “Out of network.” An _ambulance_. “Hey, 911, my wife’s lieing on the ground, and I don’t know if she’s diein’ or not. Can you send someone? Oh, wait, I have to make sure that ambulance is covered by my insurance!” You have GOT to be kidding me! And here, we’re stuck. The time for appeals was exhausted as the insurance company has a clause in their contract that says you have a year from the original date of the incident to appeal.

With health insurance, we owe $700. Without it, the scammers would have tried to hit us for $2700. That’s two months pay for us. Needless to say, I’m dismayed with health insurance thanks to this.

Next up, I’ll discuss public health insurance backed by the government, in this case the State of Colorado. But first, a commercial break (read that as getting back to work…)