Bush predicts successor will keep Gitmo open.
By on Oct 5th, 2007 at 11:35 am
Bush predicts successor will keep Gitmo open.
The Guantanamo Bay detention center “must remain active until at least 2009 to allow the next president to decide whether it should be continued, President Bush says in a just-published book.” Bush predicted that his successor, whether Republican or Democrat, will keep the facility open. “I suspect they’ll find that it is necessary,” Bush said.
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not fuc*ing likely for long.
October 5th, 2007 at 11:36 amGotta hold all the GOOPers somewhere…
October 5th, 2007 at 11:36 amno, monkeyboy, you and your depraved accomplices are going to the hague.
October 5th, 2007 at 11:37 amhow about under water…..
October 5th, 2007 at 11:37 amoh bush, did you not learn from all your WORTHLESS predictions? lol…..
October 5th, 2007 at 11:38 amSadly Bush is right, Hillary will most likely keep Gitmo open.
October 5th, 2007 at 11:39 amYes I agree with Bush that successor will keep Gitmo open so he/she can sent Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld there for crimes against humanity
October 5th, 2007 at 11:39 amSadly Bush is right, Hillary will most likely keep Gitmo open.
Comment by Krazny — October 5, 2007 @ 11:39 am
Yep.
October 5th, 2007 at 11:44 amRemove the fences and establish a station for verifying the identies of Cuban wishings to travel to and from the US to visit relatives. Havana will be crowded with cruise ships and tourists.
October 5th, 2007 at 11:46 amBush (and Diebold) say Hillreh is a shoe-in:
CLINTON WON’T COMMIT TO RENEW CONSTITUTION…Illinois Senator Barack Obama has finally signed the American Freedom Pledge, joining his fellow Democratic presidential candidates in encouraging the restoration of basic Constitutional principles after the battering they have taken during the Bush-Cheney era.
All the Democrats, that is, except New York Senator Hillary Clinton
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?pid=239574
October 5th, 2007 at 11:51 amWell, they can leave the “G” in “Guantanamo Bay” and just paint in the “-OP HEADQUARTERS.”
October 5th, 2007 at 11:53 amThey didn’t let Dumbya finish his sentence — “I suspect they’ll find that it is necessary — so they have somewhere to keep me and Deadeye Dick for the next 30 years, far far away from the country we’ve ruined. Heh heh…”
October 5th, 2007 at 11:54 amAnd he’s been right about sooooooo many things before.
October 5th, 2007 at 11:56 amFat chance.
October 5th, 2007 at 12:04 pmIt will be necessary because that is where we will house the criminals of the Bush administration until they die. Then they will preserve them, hang them in their cells and leave them there for another 100 years.
October 5th, 2007 at 12:06 pmI just emailed Pelosi and told her to put impeachment back on the table, for Bush and Cheney (especially) before this administration starts locking up U.S. citizens who oppose their policies. I believe they are absolutely capable of doing so, and worse.
October 5th, 2007 at 12:09 pmGuantanamo, the American Gulag.
It will be kept open for several decades, evolving from a prison/torture chamber for suspects captured overseas to one for political dissidents.
It will have to be abandoned after some 50 years as rising tides begin to inundate the facility. In a hundred years, it will be 30 feet underwater.
Centuries later its remains will reemerge from the ocean as waters receed, and will be a silent reminder to the horrors of American Imperialism.
October 5th, 2007 at 12:15 pm#9, Remove the fences and establish a station for verifying the identities of Cubans wishing to travel to and from the US to visit relatives. Havana will be crowded with cruise ships and tourists.
-Comment by Saint Augustine
Wasn’t Ricky Ricardo, (Desi Arnez), the last legal Cuban immigrant? Like, 60 years ago?
Why can we lie prone for China, a Communist country, but still bar Cubans?
October 5th, 2007 at 12:16 pm#19 Perhaps the sense of 90 miles.
October 5th, 2007 at 12:21 pmYou know what scares me is that GWB may be right about this one thing…
Whoever is the next president may just discover that they are no longer the leader of the free world, because there is no free world anymore. Bush and Cheney sold it to the highest bidder… anybody want to guess who?
The next president will probably have no choice but to keep these evil practices going in order to maintain some semblance of a US Government. We’ve lost. Game over. The game was about intimidating US citizens into fearing each other; and look at us. It’s 1984. We’re okay with taking off our shoes at the airport, for fear of being carted off to jail. We’re okay to have our phones and email tapped for fear of being “disappeared.†We allow our liberties and rights to be slowly taken away and we do nothing about it. We’re too busy watching “American Idle†and Britney to care what is going on right in front of our faces. We don’t care about the lack of education our children are getting or the lack of healthcare available or how we’re going to survive when the air and water are so badly polluted by the greed of corporations.
When will we wake up?! What will it take?!
October 5th, 2007 at 12:23 pm#19 Perhaps the sense of 90 miles. -Comment by ANeccessaryEvil
OK. Can you expound on that?
I just don’t see Cuba as the threat it once was. In the 50’s, it was the present day Dubai, where Americans went to gamble, eat and enjoy Cuban hospitality. I realize Castro upset the applecart, but do you really think they’re a major threat?
October 5th, 2007 at 12:25 pmKeeping Gitmo. open is one thing.
Continuing the torture, is another.
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October 5th, 2007 at 12:35 pmChanges in Cuban/US relations under a Democratic Administration will bring us:
Cable TV car restoration shows featuring Cuban mechanics.
Cuban cigars will be sold above the counter.
Cuban dancers will dominate Dancing With the Stars.
October 5th, 2007 at 12:41 pmDana P is getting shrill on cspan 2 over the torture memos. “Reasonable people can disagree on complex questions.”
She claims the intelligence committee was fully briefed.
October 5th, 2007 at 12:50 pmIn a Senate Arms Services Committee hearing, Hillary Clinton said this:
“Guantanamo has become associated in the eyes of the world with a discredited administration policy of abuse, secrecy and contempt for the rule of law.”
It’s a public statement, on the record, so I’m not sure why some of you are so sure she would keep it open. In fact, I believe the official word from her campaign staff has been that she will close it down.
Krazny, can you offer any documentation on your strange claim that she will most likely keep it open?
October 5th, 2007 at 12:51 pmMore Dana P: “we don’t cut off people’s heads and show them on tv.”
October 5th, 2007 at 12:52 pmHillary Clinton’s expanded statment in the Senate on April 26, 2007:
“Guantanamo has become associated in the eyes of the world with a discredited administration policy of abuse, secrecy, and contempt for the rule of law. Rather than keeping us more secure, keeping Guantanamo open is harming our national interests. It compromises our long term military and strategic interests, and it impairs our standing overseas. I have certainly concluded that we should address any security issues on what to do with the remaining detainees, and then close it once and for all.â€
WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS PUBLIC STATEMENT THAT YOU CLINTON-HATERS DON’T UNDERSTAND?
October 5th, 2007 at 12:55 pmSadly Bush is right, Hillary will most likely keep Gitmo open.
Comment by Krazny — October 5, 2007 @ 11:39 am
Yep.
Comment by Keltoi — October 5, 2007 @ 11:44 am
Hey Krazny: you and the right-wing Bush cultists have something in common. How do you feel about that?
October 5th, 2007 at 12:56 pmKrazny believes Bush but evidently doesn’t believe Hillary. Am I the only one around here that finds that very, very strange?
October 5th, 2007 at 12:59 pmGosh, I guess if we can’t bash Hillary Clinton on this, there’s very little interest in continuing the discussion. Right lefties?
October 5th, 2007 at 1:15 pmAll the Democrats, that is, except New York Senator Hillary Clinton
http://www.thenation.com/ blogs/ campaignmatters?pid=239574
Comment by John
I firmly believe that Hillary’s lead is going to evaporate as soon as they get into truly campaigning. Right now she is leading on name recognition. Once the public finds out how she stands on the issues, chances are her lead will evaporate. Besides, she doesn’t have much of a lead in the states that are going to be voting first, so things are going to change very quickly.
I will vote for Hillary if she is the Democratic nominee, but I will have to hold my nose to do it. But, any Democrat has got to be better for this nation than another Republican.
October 5th, 2007 at 1:20 pmMore Dana P: “we don’t cut off people’s heads and show them on tv.â€
Comment by Candyce
God that woman is a dim bulb. What is that supposed to mean. Torture is OK as long as you don’t cut someone’s head off and show it on TV? She is an embarrassment. I shudder to think what the world must think of us if they listen to her. She’s as bad, if not worse, than Bush.
October 5th, 2007 at 1:22 pmBilbo: “Once the public finds out how she stands on the issues, chances are her lead will evaporate. Besides, she doesn’t have much of a lead in the states that are going to be voting first, so things are going to change very quickly.”
Issues? You mean how so many people around here are sure she’ll keep GITMO open in spite of the fact that she publically stated that it’s wrong and she’ll close it down? And, I’m not sure where you get the idea that she doesn’t have much of a lead in states going first. She currently has a commanding lead in California and New Hampshire in most polls.
In the primary, I will probably vote for John Edwards, but if she is the nominee, I will proudly vote for her without holding my nose. I am not a victim of the 15-year campaign by the right to destroy her reputation and distort her positions.
October 5th, 2007 at 1:27 pmThe Guantanamo Bay detention center “must remain active until at least 2009 to allow the next president to decide whether it should be continued…”
October 5th, 2007 at 2:20 pmWTF?? Do you mean “The Decider” will “allow the next president to decide…” What’s up with that?
Maybe Bush is right – he and his current and former administration liars and war mongers will be the only inmates.
October 5th, 2007 at 11:58 pmOk, who knows the history of Guantanamo? It’s in Cuba so it is not US territory, or is it? How did it the US end up owning an American naval base outside of the US? Easily, after the Spanish-American War, in order to promise the withdrawal of US soldiers which Cubans who had been fighting for indepence from Spain for 100 years resented, Cuba had to agree, and it was written in its Constitution (Platt Ammendment), that the US had a right to the Guantanamo Bay facilities along with the right to intervene in the affairs of the Cuban people anytime it deemed necessary. That’s the beginning. Who do you think is going to provide the end?
October 6th, 2007 at 2:49 amWhen Pres. George Bush says that Guantanamo is going to remain open, he insults the Cuban people, as well as the Muslims detained there without cause and reason for trial. Either bring them to trial or release them. It’s reasonable enough, ins’t it?. Don’t torture them with indefinite imprisonment. Can you inmagine what it would be like to be in prison for an indefinete time without being charged with a crime or not knowing what your crime is supposed to be? Is this the 18th Century?
October 6th, 2007 at 3:17 am