ThinkFast: October 5, 2007
ThinkFast: October 5, 2007
The CIA’s secret overseas prison system “remains active and has held at least one al Qaeda militant” since first being revealed last year, says a U.S. official. “The official confirmed the detention as the White House” refused to say “whether the agency had resumed holding prisoners at secret sites and insisted that the United States does not torture.”
In light of the revelation yesterday of secret opinions giving the CIA approval in 2005 for harsh interrogation techniques, Senate Intel Chairman John Rockefeller (D-WV) “wrote to the acting attorney general, Peter D. Keisler, asking for copies of all opinions on interrogation since 2004.”
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) has launched an online petition asking conservatives to “band together” and “stand with Rush Limbaugh against liberal attacks.”
Alternet reports, “The truth of the matter is that only the presence of U.S. forces allows the group called ‘al Qaeda in Iraq’ (AQI) to survive and function, and setting a timetable for the occupation to end is the best way to beat them. You won’t hear that perspective in Washington, but according to Iraqis with whom we spoke, it is the conventional wisdom in much of the country.”
“Over and over, President Bush confidently promised to ‘solve problems, not pass them on to future presidents and future generations.’ As the clock runs out on his eight-year presidency, a tall stack of troubles remain and Bush’s words ring hollow.”
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has “closed the door to negotiations with President Bush on a vetoed children’s health bill.” “We’re not going to compromise,” Reid said. “If he’s hoping for that, he better hope for something else, like getting our troops home from Iraq.”
“A record number of floods, droughts and storms around the world this year amount to a climate change ‘mega disaster’, the United Nation’s emergency relief coordinator, Sir John Holmes, has warned.” He said “dire predictions about the impact of global warming on humanity were already coming true. ”
And finally: Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) recycles jokes like it’s 1999. Yesterday, he said that “as president he would appoint Alan Greenspan to lead a review of the nation’s tax code.” “If he’s alive or dead it doesn’t matter. If he’s dead, just prop him up and put some dark glasses on him like, like ‘Weekend at Bernie’s,’” McCain joked. Funny joke…except that he’s been telling it since 1999.
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How familiar does this sound?
http://blog.nola.com/times-picayune/2007/10/difatta_twice_detained_in_lewd.html
Another Republican? I am so surprised!
October 5th, 2007 at 9:13 amhttp://joeydifatta.com/aboutjoey.html
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) has launched an online petition asking conservatives to “band together†and “stand with Rush Limbaugh against liberal attacks.
Hypocrites unite in defense of a hypocrite!! lol. Do they really think that people wont see thru this charade?
October 5th, 2007 at 9:13 amThe next president can prop up McCain in a corner and use him to hang his coat and hat on.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:13 am"the United States does not torture*.â€
*Torture - something other countries do, but the United States does not do, when interrogating suspects.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:15 am#2 - Comment by Xisithrus — October 5, 2007 @ 9:13 am
They should rename it to: "stand with Rush Limbaugh against the slander by Rush Limbaugh"
Rush's biggest enemy is his own mouth. If he didn't continue to shoot himself in the foot, he wouldn't be limping, now would he?
October 5th, 2007 at 9:16 am“band together†and “stand with Rush Limbaugh
Eric and the Cant' Standers
October 5th, 2007 at 9:16 amComment by Bienville — October 5, 2007
I am not surprised in the least. the more a Republican howls about others morals is an attempt to cover theirs.
Haggard did it. Foley did it, Bob Allen did it, Glenn Murphy did it, Michael Flory did it, Dont ask dont tell Craig did it.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:19 am“stand with Rush Limbaugh against the slander by Rush Limbaugh†-DS
Rush is a member of the DARVO club of hypocrites.
Notice how he howled and cried about drug addicts only to become one and then when caught out buying drugs from his maid and doctor shopping he howled about being attacked by those who point out the hypocrisy of his previous statements and accusations.
DARVO the MO of the GOP.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:22 amSo when, exactly, will the accountability moment occur regarding the CIA prisons and the US endorsement of torture, we just don't call it that, as official government policy? Really? When is enough, enough?
October 5th, 2007 at 9:24 amYesterday, he said that “as president he would appoint Alan Greenspan to lead a review of the nation’s tax code.†-McCain
Greenspan is a economist not a tax lawyer John...
October 5th, 2007 at 9:25 amNow, expect Coulter to come out and say she is being attacked for her women shouldn't vote remark and another [[Big yawn]] petition or some other nonsense to defend the indefensible drivel dribbled.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:27 amRep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) has launched an online petition asking conservatives to “band together†and “stand with Rush Limbaugh against liberal attacks.â€
The Cons are trying to paint Limbaugh as the victim here.
Just another day in Bizzaro World.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:28 amFunny joke…except that he’s been telling it since 1999.
Some jokes just need time to age properly. Like wine, or good whiskey, or the term 'compassionate conservative'
October 5th, 2007 at 9:29 amHypocrites unite in defense of a hypocrite!! lol. Do they really think that people wont see thru this charade?
Comment by Xisithrus — October 5, 2007 @ 9:13 am
Unfortunately, yes.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:29 amIn other news Larry Craig has decided to stick it out...
October 5th, 2007 at 9:29 amthe only reason bush's words ring hollow is because HIS HEAD IS HOLLOW!
October 5th, 2007 at 9:30 am“The truth of the matter is that only the presence of U.S. forces allows the group called ‘al Qaeda in Iraq’ (AQI) to survive and function, and setting a timetable for the occupation to end is the best way to beat them"
Well W is the founding member. And the name should not be al Qaeda in Iraq, but rather:
al Qaeda now in Iraq
October 5th, 2007 at 9:32 amIn other news Larry Craig has decided to stick it out… Comment by Zimzone — October 5, 2007 @ 9:29 am
Good one, Zim -- but I bet Craig's career is going to stall now...
October 5th, 2007 at 9:40 am“stand with Rush Limbaugh against liberal attacks.â€
umm according to many Republicans the military votes Republican and in a 2006 poll some 72% of those troops felt the war should end. IE Rush, I say, is not being attacked by liberals but by Republicans who dont like the troops being called phony.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:40 amDogfather, are you saying his career's going down the toilet?
October 5th, 2007 at 9:48 amIn other news Larry Craig has decided to stick it out… Comment by Zimzone — October 5, 2007 @ 9:29 am
He's trying to tap into support by fellow Republicans, but they've stiffened their resolve.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:49 amComment by The Dogfather — October 5, 2007 @ 9:40 am
I think it will go to pot.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:50 amCraig's lament:
Here I sit,
October 5th, 2007 at 9:51 amBroken hearted,
Tried to quit,
But just got started
You libs just aren't getting the big picture. Since you have sunk to a new low of fabricating a controversy from Rush Limbaugh, Reps have no learned to close their ears to ANY of your criticisms, and jump into the fight to protect their own. A little late in coming, to be sure, but none the less, this is a bad omen for libs, whose bread and butter or demonization and demagoguery, which requires people to listen to your breast beating, blouse tearing diatribes.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:51 am“wrote to the acting attorney general, Peter D. Keisler, asking for copies of all opinions on interrogation since 2004.â€
Executive privilege. Next!
October 5th, 2007 at 9:53 amAmong groups, Democrats (80 percent) and Republicans (76 percent) are about equally likely to say they have prayed for the war to end -FOX Poll.
See Rush, your being attacked by 76% Republicans, ya big idiot phony, with your big idiot whining "Im being attacked"
Fer Goddsakes be a man and apologise for your intentionally stupid remarks.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:54 amEnough with the bathroom humor...the longer this Craig thing hangs out in the public eye, the more I wonder when it will come to an end.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:54 amWell as long as Rep Cantor has a petition for Rush, here is
Wes Clark's petition to have Rush removed from Armed Forces Radio:
http://ga4.org/campaign/dumprush
October 5th, 2007 at 9:55 amOde to Larry...
Here I glance
through the restroom door
widen my stance
and reach for the floor.
Reaching under the wall
October 5th, 2007 at 9:56 ammine toes I do tap
a public career in a stall
couldn't beat the rap.
Secret Renditions
Overseas "Black Sites"
Warrentless Surveillance
I firmly believe that if we strip these tools away from our government there will be another terrorist attack on American soil, committed by our own government.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:59 am“The official confirmed the detention as the White House†refused to say “whether the agency had resumed holding prisoners at secret sites and insisted that the United States does not torture.â€
Someone needs to ask the Asshat and Chief just exactly why we need these secret sites if we don't torture. Isn't that the purpose of them?
October 5th, 2007 at 10:00 amIn light of the revelation yesterday of secret opinions giving the CIA approval in 2005 for harsh interrogation techniques, Senate Intel Chairman John (D-WV) “wrote to the acting attorney general, Peter D. Keisler, asking for copies of all opinions on interrogation since 2004.â€
they've not offered any requested documents or officials; what makes anyone think they'll start now?
October 5th, 2007 at 10:00 amSome jokes just need time to age properly. Like wine, or good whiskey, or the term ‘compassionate conservative’
Comment by Squegeeboo — October 5, 2007 @ 9:29 am
Or like a ripe corpse.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:03 amRep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) has launched an online petition asking conservatives to “band together†and “stand with Rush Limbaugh against liberal attacks.â€
Hey, let them go for it. All it is doing is to make them look very foolish. The public is smart enough to know what's going on here. They have ears and can hear Rush's words and they have eyes and can read the transcripts. They know that Bush has bashed our troops not once but three times. And they can see that anyone who condemned the moveon.org ad and is how supporting Rush are simply hypocrites of the first order.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:04 amCraig's fellow Idaho Senator supports his friend.
Mr. Crapo, a friend and ally on state issues, said he strongly supported Mr. Craig. “I look forward to working with him in the Senate as he resolves his legal battles,†Mr. Crapo said.
I just know there's a joke there somewhere.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:04 amthe only reason bush’s words ring hollow is because HIS HEAD IS HOLLOW!
Comment by Fan of Man — October 5, 2007 @ 9:30 am
And all these years I thought it was filled with rock.......
October 5th, 2007 at 10:05 amSenate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has “closed the door to negotiations with President Bush on a vetoed children’s health bill.†“We’re not going to compromise,†Reid said. “
That's all well and good Harry, but what are you going to do if Congress doesn't override his veto? Are you going to introduce the bill again or are you going to simply forget about it like you have forgotten about so many other pressing issues lately?
October 5th, 2007 at 10:06 amCaption contest:
Bush: "Hey, look at this floor! Anyone up for a game of Hollywood Squares?"
October 5th, 2007 at 10:06 amMeanwhile the American Conservative magazine calls Petraeus a sychophant.
GOp team hypocrite!!
October 5th, 2007 at 10:07 amI firmly believe that if we strip these tools away from our government there will be another terrorist attack on American soil, committed by our own government.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
There is a terrorist attack on this country every day in the form of the Bush Administration. Frankly I'm more afraid of my own government than I am of the so-called "terrorists" out there.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:08 amI firmly believe that if we strip these tools away from our government there will be another terrorist attack on American soil, committed by our own government.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
So we're torturing them over there so we don't have to torture them over here?
October 5th, 2007 at 10:08 amI just know there’s a joke there somewhere.
Comment by Candyce — October 5, 2007 @ 10:04 am
Just tell Crapo to stay away from the private restrooms.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:08 amMr. Crapo, stallwart ally on stall issues, said he strongly admires Mr. Craig. “I look forward to seeing him in the stall as he resolves his wide stance issue,†Mr. Crapo said.
"Dont ask dont tell, use hand signals, and toe taps"
October 5th, 2007 at 10:13 amRep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) has launched an online petition asking conservatives to “band together†and “stand with Rush Limbaugh against liberal attacks.â€
Yes -- we MUST keep all the sheeple together!
October 5th, 2007 at 10:14 amThe techniques we use have been fully disclosed to some members of the United States Congress. - Bush, just now on torture.
He also said the "techniques" have prevented attacks. sigh.
They will not hand over the memos. *shock*
October 5th, 2007 at 10:15 am“Over and over, President Bush confidently promised to ‘solve problems, not pass them on to future presidents and future generations.’ As the clock runs out on his eight-year presidency, a tall stack of troubles remain and Bush’s words ring hollow.â€
You have to understand that in Bush's dictionary, "solve" means "increase" or "escalate". He is going to "solve" the Iraq problem by invading Iran, for example. He will "solve" the terrorism problem by p!ssing off more of the world and creating more terrorists. And he will "solve" the national debt problem by increasing spending. You get the idea.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:18 amIn other news Larry Craig has decided to stick it out…
Comment by Zimzone — October 5, 2007 @ 9:29 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA -- good one! I assume that double entendre was deliberate...
October 5th, 2007 at 10:19 amThere is a terrorist attack on this country every day in the form of the Bush Administration. Frankly I’m more afraid of my own government than I am of the so-called “terrorists†out there.
Comment by bilbobaggins — October 5, 2007 @ 10:08 am
Look, I've said it once before, and I'm going to say it again. The Rightwingers can howl all they want to about the threat of terrorist attacks. We are at greater risk to be attacked by our fellow Americans than we are by foreign invaders. Just look at all the public shootings and kidnappings and murders in this country just in the last 14 years since we encountered the first attack on the WTC. From the children to the elderly, no one is exempt from this threat.
Bush and the war supporters want us to be very afraid (more so around election time) of a terrorist shooting up the local grocery store, but damn, I take the same risk of being shot by some pissed-off student who received a grade of "F" in one of his classes every time I step foot on the grounds of one of the two local colleges. Or risk being the victim of a robbery when I stop and get gas for the car. Or stop at night at a nearby rest area on the interstate, where less than 10 years ago a group of kids kidnapped a family of 4, drove them to a wooded area in their own van, and killed 3 of them in cold-blooded murder...FOR NO REASON.
Jeez.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:21 amWhy is it that TP has to continually bolster the sagging careers (and belliy of rush and Adams apple of Tranny Annie) of limbaugh and coultergeist? They are entertainers begging for attention, nothing more nothing less.
Tranny Annie's books are bought by the pallet loads by Right Wing wackos and either given away or warehoused before recycling en masse , just to show they are "sold". And the rusher was losing share big-time before this latest scam came up. Now he has gained some of that back.
So PULEEZE just ignore these two, and maybe they will just slither back into the crypt.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:22 amYes — we MUST keep all the sheeple together!
Comment by missmolly — October 5, 2007 @ 10:14 am
Especially to ward off ads from those bad ol' soldiers who want to openly debate Rush on his show.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:23 ammissmolly, :)
October 5th, 2007 at 10:24 amI just know there’s a joke there somewhere.
Comment by Candyce — October 5, 2007 @ 10:04 am
Oh, there is a really nasty joke in there with some selective deletion of words.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:25 amComment by Bad Eye — October 5, 2007 @ 10:21 am
Absolutely correct!! Great post.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:25 amThe techniques we use have been fully disclosed to some members of the United States Congress. - Bush, just now on torture.
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Yes, and you also told us that you kept Congress informed of your warrantless wiretapping program.
Except, in reality, your definition of "Congress" was all of 8 members, who where also sworn to secrecy and had no power to question you or demand accountability from you.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:28 amSenate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has “closed the door to negotiations with President Bush on a vetoed children’s health bill.†“We’re not going to compromise,†Reid said. “If he’s hoping for that, he better hope for something else, like getting our troops home from Iraq.â€
Eh, that's sort of maybe a little firm-ish. How about you say this instead:
"If Congress fails to override President Bush's veto, I will bring to the floor a resolution to evacuate Iraq within 30 days, and we will grind the Senate to a halt for as long as required to burn down any filibusters."
October 5th, 2007 at 10:31 amCaption Contest:
October 5th, 2007 at 10:34 amBush: Beam me up Scotty
Aid:(whispering) Sir, thats just a circle on the floor, not a transporter from Star Trek
Bush: Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...
So PULEEZE just ignore these two, and maybe they will just slither back into the crypt.
Comment by upside99 — October 5, 2007 @ 10:22 am
You're so right. Because all the TPer's are running out and buying Coulter's new book. And immediately after I read it, I'm going to turn on Rush's radio show and consume whatever his advertisers tell me to. But if I chose ignorance instead....
Hmm.... Maybe this strategy will work with other social ills as well:
Rape victims. Simply ignore your rapist. Maybe he'll go away.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:35 amClimate Change. Sorry climate, if you keep changing I'm just going to have to buy a bigger air conditioner.
Afghanistan. Wait a second, we're already ignoring this one!
it'll be interesting to watch him squirm about this:
Romney, Clinton health care plans similar-experts
Fri Oct 5, 2007 8:00am EDT By Jason Szep
BOSTON, Oct 5 (Reuters) - When it comes to health care, Republican Mitt Romney loves to take swipes at Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton.
He calls Clinton's plan, which would require every American to have health insurance, "European-style socialized medicine" and derides it as inspired by "European bureaucracies."
Romney is quick to remind supporters of the U.S. senator from New York's dramatic 1993 failure to reform U.S. health care, which many Americans felt overstepped the role of first lady.
Despite all that, experts say Clinton's plan borrows heavily from one Romney signed into law when he was governor of Massachusetts, which made the liberal state the first in the United States with near-universal health insurance.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:35 am[...]
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN17331819
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Comment by Candyce — October 5, 2007 @ 10:25 am
Heh! For a second there, I thought you were referring to my second post at 10:25!
Anyway, thanks.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:40 amcaption contest:
Bush: "hey, is this where they shot that scene with Tom Hanks in the movie "Big"? You there! I'm gonna call you pardner 'cause you're gonna be my song and dance pardner...now where the hell is that giant piano-on-the-floor thingy? Did I ever tell you that Daddy used to work here? He was a decider-guy, too he, he he. Helped fund Blackwater and all...just like Grandpa used to help the nazis..us Bushes are always deciderin' something. Just like the other day, dick Cheney let me decide which office we could meet in to talk about his plans for Iran...he lets me decide lots of stuff like that...hey pardner, where ya goin'?"
October 5th, 2007 at 10:41 amSo PULEEZE just ignore these two, and maybe they will just slither back into the crypt.
Comment by upside99 — October 5, 2007 @ 10:22 am
i'd settle for never having to see their pictures on this site...
October 5th, 2007 at 10:42 amit's the least TP could do...
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Comment by katy — October 5, 2007 @ 10:35 am
European - the new "communist."
Are you now or have you ever been....
October 5th, 2007 at 10:43 am“If Congress fails to override President Bush’s veto, I will bring to the floor a resolution to evacuate Iraq within 30 days, and we will grind the Senate to a halt for as long as required to burn down any filibusters.â€
Comment by Bush is a four letter word — October 5, 2007 @ 10:31 am
That would indeed be sweet!
October 5th, 2007 at 10:43 amand THIS is just plain crazy... what about kazaa??
Four reasons why the RIAA won a jury verdict of $220,000
Posted by Declan McCullagh
The Recording Industry Association of American got a chance on Thursday to show everyone just how heavy and intimidating the legal club of copyright law can be.
As my colleague Greg Sandoval wrote a few hours ago, a Minnesota woman named Jammie Thomas was sued by the RIAA for allegedly making available some 1,702 songs through the Kazaa network (though only 24 were at issue in the case). A federal jury sided with the RIAA and returned a verdict of $222,000.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:46 am[...]
http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9791764-38.html?tag=nefd.blgs
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holy crap...
FDA drug proposal would bypass the doctor
By Daniel Costello, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer October 5, 2007
Physicians may be losing their lock on Americans' medicine cabinets.
For years, consumers have had two options at the drugstore. They could either show up with a doctor's prescription or settle for less powerful medications sold over the counter.
Now the Food and Drug Administration is considering creating a different option, a class of medicines dubbed behind-the-counter drugs. It would let consumers purchase routine medicines that could include birth control pills, cholesterol drugs and migraine medicine without a prescription -- as long as they discuss it with a pharmacist first.
Pharmacists and drug companies like the idea; doctors think it's dangerous. If approved, the drug classification could go into effect as early as next year.
[...]
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fi-drugs5oct05,1,5144408.story?coll=la-headlines-frontpage
"dangerous" is putting it mildly...
October 5th, 2007 at 10:53 am.
Why is Bush always doing that cheesy "gunfighter" thing w/ his arms? I've seen picture after picture like that. It's right out of a 1940's Western.
"So I looked Saddam right in the eye, see? And I said, ya better be quick, Hoo-sein, 'cause lead's gonna be flyin' any second..."
October 5th, 2007 at 10:55 ambusy, busy, busy... somebody better check these guys out...
FDA aims to speed generic drugs to market
Thu Oct 4, 2007 1:44pm EDT By Kim Dixon
WASHINGTON, Oct 4 (Reuters) - The U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Thursday said it approved one-third more generic drugs last fiscal year and said it planned to speed review of these cheaper versions of brand-name drugs.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:56 am[...]
http://www.reuters.com/article/health-SP/idUSN0433948820071005
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from the google news page:
Gates: US arms control laws slow sales to allies
Reuters - 1 hour ago
By Kristin Roberts SANTIAGO (Reuters) - Defense Secretary Robert Gates said on Thursday that US laws impede the government's ability to provide weapons quickly to Iraq and other allies but he was not concerned that Iraq had ordered arms from China.
US Defense Secretary Concerned About Slow US Arms Sales Process Voice of America
Weapons orders to Iraq slow, Gates says Boston Globe
yea... blame it on the laws, and oversight, and all that messy stuff...
October 5th, 2007 at 11:16 am.
Iraq bought weapons from China . They say the military arent supplying their troops fast enough. With Afghanistan returning to pre invasion levels of violence. Bush's cluster fu*k just keeps on giving.
October 5th, 2007 at 12:19 pmMaybe someone already asked...but John who?
"In light of the revelation yesterday of secret opinions giving the CIA approval in 2005 for harsh interrogation techniques, Senate Intel Chairman John (D-WV)"
October 5th, 2007 at 12:20 pmkaty,
I wonder if the rule will include some sort of language insulating drug companies from lawsuits by consumers made ill by the side-effects of these drugs.
I've been concerned for some time about drug companies advertising perscription drugs on TV and in magazines to the general public. All that does is increase demand and minimize the negative side effects in the mind of the consumer.
It's like, "LOOK, with this drug you get a beautiful woman, a fast car and a dog. (by the way, you could die) Call your doctor now and insist on getting a perscription for XXXXX."
Now, people won't even need to get a perscription, so there won't even be a doctor involved saying, hey, wait a minute, you don't really need this drug, and if you do take it, you could die.
October 5th, 2007 at 12:26 pm"Gobble, gobble..."
October 5th, 2007 at 1:55 pmWhy is Bush always doing that cheesy “gunfighter†thing w/ his arms? I’ve seen picture after picture like that. It’s right out of a 1940’s Western.
“So I looked Saddam right in the eye, see? And I said, ya better be quick, Hoo-sein, ’cause lead’s gonna be flyin’ any second…â€
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — October 5, 2007 @ 10:55 am
Yea, I always thought he got that Texas Redneck Swagger from watch8ng too many John Wayne movies. But maybe it is so he can insure he doesn't block everyone's view of the Dubya patented inflatable codpiece. After all, it is his best feature!
October 5th, 2007 at 3:11 pm