TVNewser reports, “Today Fox News Channel celebrates 11 years on the air. The launch on October 7, 1996 was to 17 million cable subscribers and joined two existing channels: CNN, the originator, and MSNBC, which went on the air a few months before FNC on July 15, 1996.” Befitting of its anniversary, Newshounds notes that Fox spent the week shifting “attention away from the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and the possible war with Iran to bring their viewers a round-the-clock defense of Rush Limbaugh.”
UPDATE: Fox News pundit Fred Barnes suggests that Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) opposition to going to war in Iraq at a time when “the entire world believed that Saddam Hussein in Iraq had weapons of mass destruction” means Obama is not “very strong on national security.”
Fred Barnes also believes Whoopi Gholdberg is not very strong in science because she does not think the world is flat.
That Fred is so smart. Why be right or smart when you can be strong, the trait admired only by simpletons.
October 7th, 2007 at 10:37 pmyea… and he doesn’t wear a flag lapael pin
so he CAN’T be patriotic…
wow… it’s only been 11 years?
ugh…
October 7th, 2007 at 10:37 pmthat would be barack obama, btw… not barnes…
October 7th, 2007 at 10:38 pm…
And up is down, war is peace, wrong is right, etc.
October 7th, 2007 at 10:41 pmFred Barnes is either an idiot, or he thinks Americans are.
1) Obama wasn’t the only person opposed to going to war with Iraq.
2) “The entire world” didn’t believe Iraq had WMD, although many people did swallow that.
3) Obama (and quite a few others) believed the weapons inspectors should be permitted to do their job. Furthermore, the fact they weren’t finding any WMD starting lending credence to the possibility to the idea that maybe they didn’t exist.
4) Obama (and quite a few others) saw that invading Iraq and removing Saddam when there was nobody who could replace him could destabilize the country.
All of this doesn’t add up to “not very strong on national security”. It adds up more to “not going off half-cocked”. We need leadership like that.
October 7th, 2007 at 10:48 pmDumb question – so Obama is now being criticised for being right ? When the majority was wrong ?
What’s the punchline ?
October 7th, 2007 at 10:56 pmWhat’s the punchline ?
Comment by MapleStreet — October 7, 2007 @ 10:56 pm
Ummmm… Clinton did it too?
October 7th, 2007 at 11:00 pmNow why would a conservative network defend a drug addict?
October 7th, 2007 at 11:01 pmWhat’s the punchline ?
Comment by MapleStreet — October 7, 2007
Believed.
October 7th, 2007 at 11:03 pmThe “entire world?” Does Fred mean that the “entire world” consists of only Bush gangsters, Cheney thugs, Blackwater Nazis, Enron criminals, Neoconical Imperialists and corporate Democrats?
Excuse me, Fred, but the vast majority of the world’s people knew that Bush and his fellowtravelers were lying in an attempt to occupy Iraq and then try to steal its oil…
Corporate imperial neocolonial aggression in the 21st century, how retro…
October 7th, 2007 at 11:04 pmSo when Obama thought that Saddam had no WMD means he was weak on National Security…
Seems to me going to Iraq, based on a ‘belief’, has actually weakened national security as it creates a breeding ground for extremists.
October 7th, 2007 at 11:06 pmFox News pundit Fred Barnes suggests that Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) opposition to going to war in Iraq at a time when “the entire world believed that Saddam Hussein in Iraq had weapons of mass destruction†means Obama is not “very strong on national security.â€
******A perfect illustration of Right-wingers re-writing history:Hey Fred the French & Germans didn’t believe a word coming out of the US WH.
October 7th, 2007 at 11:18 pmFred Barnes and his wide stance; meet your partner Larry Craig. It seems that both of you suck
October 7th, 2007 at 11:22 pmComment by Tampachessdon — October 7, 2007
So Obama had reservations about pre-emptive means.
And secondly this was never declared a war. It was, according to the current admin, a freedom operation.
October 7th, 2007 at 11:26 pmYou know who didn’t think Iraq had WMD in late 2002/early 2003? The WMD experts who were actually in Iraq at the time trying to find them, that’s *&^%$#@ who!
The one million people marching in the streets of London and the one million people marching in the streets of Rome on 2-15-03———-that’s *&^%$#@ who!!!
October 7th, 2007 at 11:42 pmI know! I know! The destruction of our Army and Marines, the butchering of one million people, the 4.5 million refugees, the loss of $2 Trillion, the great recruting tool and training ground for terrorists—-It’s all JOHN KERRY’S FAULT!!! [sarcasm]
October 7th, 2007 at 11:55 pmFOX does and it always has someone from the left on! -JK
Colmes is just a hired punching bag
October 8th, 2007 at 12:01 amBarnes thinks invading a country on a belief increases/helps national security?
October 8th, 2007 at 12:03 amYou should watch it occasionally, they even have dem senators on there. Comment by robroy
I dont watch TV. Period. I find it detrimental.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:04 amComment by robroy — October 7, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
I do NOT support the war that resulted in the deaths of one million Iraqis and 3813 of our troops. There have been 4.5 million refugees created after the March 2003 invasion.
I do NOT support the destruction of our Army and Marines —as many generals have said this war and continued occupation has done.
I am opposed to increasing the tax burden of Americans by $2 Trillion.
I am opposed to giving the terrorists a tremendous recruiting tool and training ground as the 16 intelligence agencies of the USA (and every study in the world) have said has occurred.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:06 amAnd your problem with an intelligenced concessis?
Comment by robroy
In view of whats been accepted? If it was truly intelligent it would not have been a belief. Did I accept that ex-concessis what was proffered?
In a word, no.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:08 am11 years of lies, baloney, and propaganda on FOX news.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:10 amI would like to thank Keith for being such a big supporter of our ‘butchering’ one million people. The 4.5 million refugees -robroy
It was a freedom operation, why are people fleeing from a freedom operation?
October 8th, 2007 at 12:11 ampretty obvious xisithrus has never served, and has never been far away from his computer. Comment by robroy
I have been to other countries outside of America and yes I did work on military aircraft and no I dont depend on or hide behind a computer screen.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:13 amcant answer your question, till you answer mine
Comment by robroy
Whats up Jake, Jason?
October 8th, 2007 at 12:14 amFroam what I can ascertain, Jason Hendler, you like to create wi-fi antennas for broad band use with dieletric [silicon or other similiar materials] bases.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:16 amXisithrus were those the ones that crashed?
Comment by robroy
No aircraft I worked on has crashed. Nice try at projectionism.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:19 amGeneral Batiste and General Eaton
General William Odom, former head of the National Security Agency, “Right now, the course we’re on, we’re achieving Bin Laden’s ends.”
Retired general Joseph Hoare, the former marine commandant and head of US Central Command, told me: “The idea that this is going to go the way these guys planned is ludicrous. There are no good options.”
Jeffrey Record, professor of strategy at the Air War College, said: “I see no ray of light on the horizon at all. The worst case has become true.”
W Andrew Terrill, professor at the Army War College’s strategic studies institute – and the top expert on Iraq there – said: “I don’t think that you can kill the insurgency”.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:20 amNow, Jason, Jake, Robroy, you have not served have you?
October 8th, 2007 at 12:21 amso which acft did you work on?
Comment by robroy
Tinker Air Force base Oklahoma city AWACS
October 8th, 2007 at 12:23 amAnd your problem with an intelligenced concessis?
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 12:04 am
Hey robroy, maybe you should start using smaller words you can spell and when you figure out how to do that maybe you will realize nobody here is dumb enough to believe the lies you and Fox News spew.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:26 amyou were a contractor, k.
Comment by robroy
Jason stop lying about your service.
Besides what is Blackwater?
October 8th, 2007 at 12:27 amDecember 15, 2006:
Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, the Army’s chief of staff, issued his most dire assessment yet of the toll of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan on the nation’s main ground force. At one point, he banged his hand on a House committee-room table, saying the continuation of today’s Pentagon policies is “not right.”
….The burden on the Army’s 507,000 active-duty soldiers — who now spend more time at war than at home — is simply too great, he said. “At this pace, without recurrent access to the reserve components, through remobilization, we will break the active component,” he said, drawing murmurs around the hearing room.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:27 amComment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 12:23 am
Don’t bother replying to this creep, or trying to “debate” him.
He’s only here to insult and harrass anyone he can.
Flag him, over and over, until managment bans his phony ass.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:27 amXisithrus
your right, i have, you havent. vn, gn, ir, etc.
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 12:23 am
Back in the 60s, I knew guys who huffed glue or gasoline that made more sense than this.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:28 amyou were a contractor, k.
Comment by robroy
I performed the same duties, in fact the military personnel were not trained in heavy maintenance, they simply could not do what we did.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:28 amrobroy,
Some shake their heads at your comments and think you have strange stuff going on.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:29 amvn, gn, ir, etc. -robroy, Antenna Jake.
Your full of it. AB FG VY XC
October 8th, 2007 at 12:30 amrobroy,
Regarding #58, You going to tell me you know a lot more about the army than the Army Chief of Staff?
October 8th, 2007 at 12:32 amRight and who inspected your work
Comment by robroy
Some military guy who usually had no idea what he was looking at. They were more concerned what tools I had in my tooltray than what I was working on, or why.
Nevertheless, even under contract, I followed military guidelined and did the work I was hired to do by military specifications and those aircraft that I rigged the flight controls on have served our military quite well. So you can drop your BS anytime now.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:34 amXisithrus
right off the 214
Comment by robroy
That is not a mil spec number I recognize. As far as I know you got that off some website.
What is Mil spec 5606-A Robroy?
October 8th, 2007 at 12:36 amJust as long as you knew the miltary inspected and approved your work, oh, and they told you what to do as well.
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007
Idiot, the military manuals were the same as the Boeings.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:37 amJust as long as you knew the miltary inspected and approved your work, oh, and they told you what to do as well.
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007
The military did not tell me what do to, the Boeing manuals gave the time limits for repairs and maintenance IE there was little difference in the military manuals as compared to civilian ones other than the military used different ATA type codes in their manuals.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:39 amrobroy,
Regarding #58, You going to tell me you know a lot more about the army than the Army Chief of Staff?
Comment by Keith — October 8, 2007 @ 12:32 am
October 8th, 2007 at 12:41 amtinker, lets see, cargo, c130
Comment by robroy
What? An AWACS aircraft is NOT based on a C-130 airframe.
You would know that if you served.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:41 amOh and robby, you have the credibility of a slug. You are either a 14 year old or you never made it out of high school. You can’t complete one coherent sentence. Why anybody bothers answering your absurd questions or accusations is a mystery.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:42 amXisithrus, thanks for pointing out what a lying sack of crap robotboy is. He’s got some effing nerve calling others liars.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:43 amYou didnt get near an acft, unless they told you to, told you what to do, told you where you could be, and inspected it. boeing was tasked to provide the manuals
Comment by robroy
BWAHHHH. Boeing made the manuals before the military ever came to purchase them. And of course we knew what we had to do because of airframe time limits and the amount of take-offs and landings the plane had. As far as engines go the amount of hours on that engine, by the mfg was the deciding factor, not a officer on the flight line.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:45 amShayne
thanks, not bad for a retired col.
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 12:43 am
What the hell is this supposed to mean? Try including a verb in your sentence. It’s required.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:45 amhey robotoy, you want to kiss my ass now.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:45 amrobroy,
Regarding #58, You going to tell me you know a lot more about the army than the Army Chief of Staff?
Comment by Keith — October 8, 2007 @ 12:32 am
Comment by Keith — October 8, 2007 @ 12:41 am
October 8th, 2007 at 12:45 amComment by Shayne — October 8, 2007 @ 12:43 am
YVW Shane, I have worked on jet aircraft since 1987 with Braniff airlines and I have worked on KC-135s and AWACS [707] aircraft on military bases and working with military people.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:47 amDid you know that Shayne with a “y” is listed as #14 this year in the Big Book of Gay-Ass Names?
October 8th, 2007 at 12:47 am…
Befitting of its anniversary, Newshounds notes that Fox spent the week shifting “attention away from the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and the possible war with Iran to bring their viewers a round-the-clock defense of Rush Limbaugh.â€
…
remember? the thread?
it’s not about stoopid troolls…
F O C U S.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:48 am.
Lessee, being against this disastrous foreign policy quicksand quagmire from the beginning is a bad thing because…
Uh, Freddie? Not.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:52 amyeah, i know that, but Xisithrus is telling me he works on ts birds without supervision, he would have a guard over his ass every minute and he knows it Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007
It doesn’t work that way. I was on base but their was no reason to have a guard over my ass every minute, I was badged by the base security when I entered the premises. I did not, stupidly, go wandering around the base, of course.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:52 amDid you know that Shayne with a “y†is listed as #14 this year in the Big Book of Gay-Ass Names?
Comment by lefty — October 8, 2007 @ 12:47 am
Sure Einstein, so since I’m a woman that makes it a lesbian name. And if it is so effing what. This a progressive site where we are supposed to be accepting of gay people. You have a problem then head over to Limbaugh’s site.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:53 amnext he’ll be working on xr71’s….. right
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 12:49 am
I could, but you should know, genius, they have been decommissioned.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:53 amHey shayne, i dont mind gays, as long as they dont lie
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 12:50 am
Obviously you don’t have a problem with liars otherwise you’d quit lying.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:54 amOnly a Fox viewer could think that a person’s given name would determine whether or not they were gay.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:55 amAnd WTF is a big deal about working on a XR71, its just a plane that follows the same aerodynamics as any other.
I could work on a Xr-71, no problem, but am I gonna sit here and lie about woring on one? Of course not.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:55 amOh please, please Xisithrus, tell us the security measures around the bird. Start with the security strip
Comment by robroy
LMAO!! Never happened. Where do you get such ideas?
October 8th, 2007 at 12:57 amWell you act like a man. Nice balls.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:57 amBut if you name your son “Sue”, that would make him a fighter.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:57 amrobroy,
Regarding #58, You going to tell me you know a lot more about the army than the Army Chief of Staff?
Comment by Keith — October 8, 2007 @ 12:32 am
Comment by Keith — October 8, 2007 @ 12:41 am
Comment by Keith — October 8, 2007 @ 12:45 am
October 8th, 2007 at 12:58 amShayne – could have sworn the pre-registration Shayne was a troll. Apologies if you’re not.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:59 amA colonel should know that it’s “you’re pathetic”, not “your pathetic”.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:59 amlefty,
Can’t figure out what you have against Shayne. Might want to apologize.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:01 amRobroy, nex time you get into a pissing contest make sure you’re not pissing into the wind.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:01 amalready did – my mistake – was the handle shayne not a troll before the registration?
October 8th, 2007 at 1:01 amThe theatre commander is Fallon who called Paetraeus a sychophant kissass chickenshit.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:02 amgive you another chance, security badges, what color was yours
Comment by robroy
I have had so many badges by so many airports across the country I cant remember them all. Lemme just say I passed the security and background requirements.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:03 amUnder W, every single last general is a political position. You must agree with W or your career is over. You become retired. Agree with W and you get promoted. If that ain’t political, I don’t know what is!
October 8th, 2007 at 1:04 amHe got fired, Paetaeus is the theatre commander
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 1:03 am
See! Just proved my point.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:05 amAnd your problem with an intelligenced concessis?
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 12:04 am
As a retired army veteran, you shame the rest of us RA veterans with you piss poor command of the English language.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:06 amPiss off.
You said I couldn’t name generals who said the war was breaking our army. I named quite a few and you have an excellent reason in your mind every time why they are wrong.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:07 amtinker
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 1:03 am
You thought Tinker was C-130’s LOL, now your gonna tell me what badge colors they gave out? LMAO. We were given badges daily and as I recall, they were yellow.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:07 amand your point for a failing commander?
Comment by robroy
THAT WOULD BE W!
October 8th, 2007 at 1:07 amGuys, this phony ass trollclown isn’t worth the mustard that fell off his hot dog today.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:08 amJust another worthless lifer who didn’t have the sense or talent to make it on the outside.
Comment by RUCerious — October 8, 2007 @ 1:06 am
I thought he was using the latin term for a failure of logic.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:09 amHe got fired, Paetaeus is the theatre commander
Comment by robroy
You spell as badly as Mr P or Rodan.
I could forgive Peatraeus or Paetaerus, but Paetaeus?
Its Petraeus.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:09 amProbus
unamious -Robroy
You mean unanimous?
October 8th, 2007 at 1:11 amYou are pathetic
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 1:10 am
Then you have learned something tonight, colonel. It’s not “your pathetic”.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:11 amGo have a robroy robroy, or maybe a sloe gin fizz would be more up your alley.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:11 amHow bout your units and duty stations lifer?
October 8th, 2007 at 1:12 amWho’s more pathetic? Me or our president?
October 8th, 2007 at 1:12 amfor a fake AWACs mechanic, right
Comment by robroy
Fake? Nah, I can tell you alot about the JT-3D turbofan engines and the related flight controls/hydraulic systems/ and the ACMS mounted on top of the pylons that pressurized the cabin.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:14 amXisithrus, would you please give this clown a technical question he should be able to answer, and expose his phony ass.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:16 amWhat was the name of that troll with “a masters degree in history from Georgetown” who didn’t ever correctly use the words “your” or “their”?
October 8th, 2007 at 1:16 amRobroy, you see, I was a AP mechanic that rigged the engines, the throttles, the thrust reversers, the spoliers, the rudder, the ailerons and the elevators, not to mention the flaps and the cable driven horizontal stabiliser.
Their is not a cable or a flight control that I have not rigged on a DC-8, DC-9, 707, 727, 737, 757, 767 aircraft, military or commercial civil jet and other assorted Jetstream and Saab and BAC aircraft.
You dont want to go there with me.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:21 amStill waiting on your duty assignments, retired army veteran cheapdrink.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:23 amYou go in groups. Your assigned A, B, C. Teams. Wanna go over the assignments?
Comment by robroy
Bwah, you thought tinker was cargo and c-130s!!
I know what I did and where I have been. You think I worked on C-130’s LMAO
October 8th, 2007 at 1:23 amim not a mechanic, but i know my security, if you worked on AWAC’s you would know the answers
Comment by robroy
So why did you think Tinker was C-130’s?
October 8th, 2007 at 1:24 amStill waiting on your duty assignments, retired army veteran cheapdrink.
Comment by RUCerious
Me too Robroy
October 8th, 2007 at 1:25 amXisithrus
and you thought what? Comment by robroy
Thought hell. I didnt GUESS what Tinker had, you DID.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:27 amAlready did on post #143. Your turn.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:28 amXisithrus
Waiting on yours… Comment by robroy
Waiting on what?
October 8th, 2007 at 1:28 amNo fair going out and googling someone else’s service record. We already have Jake red handed on that…
October 8th, 2007 at 1:30 amShayne – could have sworn the pre-registration Shayne was a troll. Apologies if you’re not.
Comment by lefty — October 8, 2007 @ 12:59 am
I’ve been namejacked here even after registration.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:32 amMOS 71H40. 12th Signal Group Phu Bai, 37th Signal Btn Da Nang.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:33 amIf you’re security, you should know that one.
Waiting…..**crickets**….
October 8th, 2007 at 1:34 amRobroy your calling me a liar when you dont even know what Tinker does?
October 8th, 2007 at 1:34 amLMAO at Robotoy!!
October 8th, 2007 at 1:35 amKeith
He got fired, Paetaeus is the theatre commander
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 1:03 am
You have a real knack for the obvious ratboy.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:35 amYou first lifer troll. I’ll tell you what division when you give up something about your illustrious military career.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:37 amGuys, this phony ass trollclown isn’t worth the mustard that fell off his hot dog today.
Just another worthless lifer who didn’t have the sense or talent to make it on the outside.
Comment by RUCerious — October 8, 2007 @ 1:08 am
RU, you mean the mustard that fell off his smokey link. I don’t think he has anything big enough to be called a hot dog.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:38 amWell well, you were in Chu Lai. I was in DaNang, providing your communications at 37th Signal Brigade in DaNang. Jan 69 – Oct 69, then up at 12th Signal Group HQ at Phu Bai, I corps HQ. Once again, providing your comm. What was your MOS?
October 8th, 2007 at 1:39 amXisithrus
its rare that liars get to do the LMOA, congrats Comment by robroy
Thats LMAO Robroy.
Say what you will about badge colors, yet you failed to realize what you were securing at Tinker AFB namely AWACS.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:41 amProbus
unamious -Robroy
You mean unanimous?
Comment by Xisithrus — October 8, 2007 @ 1:11 am
Probus
unamious
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 1:08 am
Do you mean unanimous? What is unanimous?
Comment by Probus — October 8, 2007 @ 1:11 am
X, Probus, it’s pretty clear this psycho doesn’t know what he means.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:42 amShayne
spell your name correctly before correcting me
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 1:43 am
That’s good, you’re telling me how to spell my name. There’s an old Irish saying that you never mess with a man’s name or his hat. I bet you get your ass kicked all the time.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:46 amYea, and cooks did a lot better? Howza bout that Phu Bai steak?
October 8th, 2007 at 1:47 amWater buffalo steamed until it wasn’t shoe leather, cookie.
Xisithrus
If they didnt beat that into you thin brain Xisithrus, you were not there
Comment by robroy
Such as you believe, if I was lying then I would not have known Tinker is an AWACs training base now would I? Something BTW, you did not know. I am well aware of base security, but the planes I was working on were in the hangarsr not on the flight line [tarmac] And yes I did get badged daily. Why is that so hard for you to accept?
October 8th, 2007 at 1:47 amTime to retire for the evening. See ya cheapdrink.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:48 amComment by robroy — October 8, 2007
Shayne is a female rob.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:50 amok shame, your brilliance overwhelms your a$$. you might want to get a life
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 1:49 am
And you might want to try staying on topic. But then again when you’re on the side of the lying destroyers of our nation it’s easier for you to just change the subject.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:52 amHas been the only good argument here
Comment by robroy
Argument? I wasn’t arguing, what I said was true, you simply reused to believe that. Thats not an argument, its talking to a wall named robroy
October 8th, 2007 at 1:57 am*refused
October 8th, 2007 at 1:57 amA psychic you are not robroy.
October 8th, 2007 at 1:58 amShayne
im on the side of the lying destroyers, ok explain that
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 1:53 am
You believe Fox News’ lies and you denigrate the honorable generals who retired rather that following orders that were wrong for the country.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:03 amA psychic you are not robroy.
Comment by Xisithrus — October 8, 2007 @ 1:58 am
He probably thinks you’re calling him crazy. Batboy’s spelling is so weak he probably thinks psychic is psychotic.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:04 amAdmit it, your a liar. You want me to go over the security to touch a plane?
Comment by robroy
I cant do as you wish because what I said is true. I have worked for many years on jet aircraft and I did work at Tinker.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:04 amHe probably thinks you’re calling him crazy. -Shayne
I am not calling him crazy, [Yet=] I am saying his psychic ability is dead wrong if he thinks that I am lying about my work experience
October 8th, 2007 at 2:06 amNow lets discuss your qualifications to be a national security espert
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007
What is an espert?
October 8th, 2007 at 2:06 amWhat is an espert?
Comment by Xisithrus — October 8, 2007 @ 2:06 am
See my point about his spelling?
October 8th, 2007 at 2:08 amXisithrus, ok, so you worked on beach craft, but you never touched an AWAC’s Comment by robroy
Thats Beechcraft robroy, and yes I did work on AWACs. Its based on the 707 airframe
October 8th, 2007 at 2:08 amHey, cheapdrink, I just remembered that 96C wasn’t a cook, that was a 94 Mos, yours was supply, right.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:09 amIn Frankfort, I processed applications for reassignment back to Nam.
90% were supply sergeants trying to get back into the very lucrative black market there. How many cartons of cigarretes did you pilfer, cheapdrink?
Shayne
Now lets discuss your qualifications to be a national security espert
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 2:05 am
Most of the lifers I met were drunken sots, so that would explain the espert stuff.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:10 amSee my point about his spelling?
Comment by Shayne
Yes.
~~~~~~~~
Xisithrus-your only defense, so pathetic
Comment by robroy
You have not proved I wasn’t there [tinker] your only defense is YOU think thru some imaginative means, which proves, hello, nothing.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:11 amNo, 503rd Admin, jackass. 71H40…
96c at the time
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 1:40 am
So you were a spook> how many vc ’suspects’ did you toss out of choppers at 1800 ft?
October 8th, 2007 at 2:13 amComment by RUCerious — October 8, 2007 @ 2:09 am
No wonder the drunken sod talks about c-130 cargo planes.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:13 amNoi tieng viet?
October 8th, 2007 at 2:14 amthe only thing we know for sure is you never worked on AWAC’s
Comment by robroy
Let me correct your imaginative sentence:
the only thing
October 8th, 2007 at 2:16 amweI dont know, but guessfor sureisyouI never worked on AWAC’sComment by robroy
Are you a fool?
Comment by robroy
Are you?
October 8th, 2007 at 2:17 amchu hoy, get it strait
Comment by robroy
Thats ’straight’, fool.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:20 amstrait ~Definitions of strait on the Web:
a narrow channel of the sea joining two larger bodies of water
pass: a bad or difficult situation or state of affairs
strict and severe; “strait is the gate”
Damn you’re dumb.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:20 amBarack Obama, unlike most politicians and pundits, was right about the war in Iraq; therefore, according to our moronic pundit class, he is weak on national security.
Barack Obama is strong on national security precisely because he knows the difference between a real threat to national security and the bogus “threat” that the Bush administration drummed up to justify an illegal, immoral, and unnecessary war.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:21 amXisithrus, ok, your a pussy
Comment by robroy
Oh great, reverting to Jr high debating skills?
Your a hoto mamlone
October 8th, 2007 at 2:25 amHieu tieng viet? Biet tieng viet?
October 8th, 2007 at 2:26 amWell, punk, do you?
Mr P could not have done a better job destroying a thread.
Don’t you have to be able to spell very simple words in order to reach the rank of colonel?
This really turned into a totally off-topic pissing contest.
Notice how the stupidest remarks by robroy have a recommend.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:27 amSenor robroy esta pinche puta
Look at me Jr High debater!! How so pround my mother must be.
Grow up robroy, people in the military dont revert to such childish name calling. Its below you.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:27 amComment by CoulterIsamAnn — October 8, 2007
Im not a Republican.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:28 amRobroy has created multiple login names using different browsers and recommends himself, its painfully apparent.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:31 amI’m outa here. Didn’t get too much on me.
Night all.
If our lifer troll was a translator, ya think he’d know (biet), understand (hieu) or speak (noi) tieng viet (vietnamese).
October 8th, 2007 at 2:31 amOoops, not translator, but Interrorgator…
October 8th, 2007 at 2:31 amYes, but you’ve attempted to engage one in an intellectual debate – a non-starter unfortunately. They’re all pissy little girls…
Comment by CoulterIsamAnn — October 8, 2007
Should I have engaged them with third grade nanna nanna boo boos instead?
October 8th, 2007 at 2:33 amXisithrus
Only one logon, sorry
Comment by robroy
Why would/should I believe you when you dont believe others?
October 8th, 2007 at 2:36 amXisithrus
Because you lied
Comment by robroy
But you will go to hell for lying about me..trust me on that RR
October 8th, 2007 at 2:38 am96C Interrogator
October 8th, 2007 at 2:39 amhttp://www.ichiban1.org/html/history_mos.htm
walk me through it, tell me where you went, starting at the gate.
Comment by robroy
You thought Tinker was a c-130 base walking you through, it michael, is an exercise in entertaining your stupidity and your stupid endless questions
October 8th, 2007 at 2:42 amYou do not fool me michael. Now back to topic, FOX news sued to lie and they continue to lie, ERGO they cannot now, or then, or ever be fair or balanced.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:44 amAnd michael, the fool of the question mark, thinks that lies are truth, and that lying is acceptable.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:45 amRe #58,
You could say Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, the Army’s chief of staff, was being political if he told a lie that was pleasing to the president or the Sec of Defense. But you canot say that he is being political if what he is saying is most definitely what his superiors do not want said: that the policies are wrong, that it is placing too much of a burden on our army and troops and they are breaking the active component.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:46 amXisithrus
ill give you the benifit of the doubt, walk me throught it
Comment by robroy
Aint gonna play your ??? game michael, Bwahhaha
October 8th, 2007 at 2:48 amrobroy, you’re a fake and a liar. That is all.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:48 amComment by robroy — October 8, 2007
Really? I have your pedophile probation officer on the phone.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:50 amrobroy, you are a fake and a liar. That is all.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:51 amRush called the troops phonys! And now michael wantd to defend the drug addict!!!
October 8th, 2007 at 2:51 amyour a cunt
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 2:40 am
You still can’t spell worth a shit. It’s you’re as in a contraction.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:51 amIt’s a fu(king shame spending your whole career in the military rendered you a moron.
Rush, the wimp who could not serve due to an ingrown butt hair!
October 8th, 2007 at 2:52 amrobroy, you are a coward and a liar. That is all.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:53 amRush who could not even serve in a civilian way, Rush, the man who went deaf due to a drug addiction while our troops fought. Rush the man who took a bottle of viagra to commie cuba!
October 8th, 2007 at 2:54 amrobroy, you can’t read a resumé
October 8th, 2007 at 2:54 amIt’s obvious that your ‘command’ of vietnamese is limited to a few cuss words.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:55 amI’m very sorry they never found a cure for your syphillis.
robroy, you’re such a traitor.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:55 amXisithrus
translates, didnt do it, i lied, im a fake.
Comment by robroy
This is not about me, its about Commie drug addicted Rush going to cuba with a bottle of hardon pills for Castro!
October 8th, 2007 at 2:55 amWoooo, Robroy thinks commie Rush and hardon pills are patritotic!
Way to go robroy!!
October 8th, 2007 at 2:56 amWooooo FOX news backs a drug addled commie with hardon pills!!
October 8th, 2007 at 2:57 amrobroy is a liar and a phony. That is all.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:57 amSo what do you do now in your retirement, cheapdrink? Besides hanging out on progressive threads making shit up?
October 8th, 2007 at 2:57 amRush calls our troops phony while having sex with Castro!!
October 8th, 2007 at 2:57 amrobroy, you hate America and the troops, so calling you a traitor is just stating a plain fact.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:58 amHey Robroy, when are you gonna get some hillbilly heroin and fly off to cuba with some harddick pills? Be patriotic and stuff?
October 8th, 2007 at 2:59 amRush, the wimp who could not serve due to an ingrown butt hair!
Comment by Xisithrus — October 8, 2007 @ 2:52 am
Wouldn’t that make it hard having a job sitting in a chair like he has done for the past 35 years? Especially considering all the weight!
X, it’s the Dominican Republic where he goes for underage girls.
October 8th, 2007 at 2:59 amtract 1 (trkt)
n.
1.
a. An expanse of land or water.
b. A specified or limited area of land: developing a 30-acre tract.
2. Anatomy
a. A system of organs and tissues that together perform a specialized function: the alimentary tract.
b. A bundle of nerve fibers having a common origin, termination, and function.
3. Archaic A stretch or lapse of time.
Moron.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:00 amrobroy is also an amazingly stupid, uneducated phony. Never in service, obviously.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:00 amHey robroy, Castro needs you to rub some suntan lotion on his back, Hagard style. PS bring the Viagra -Castro
October 8th, 2007 at 3:00 amX, it’s the Dominican Republic where he goes for underage girls.
Comment by Keith — October 8, 2007 @ 2:59 am
that’s boys. girls scare Republicans, like robroy.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:01 amX, it’s the Dominican Republic where he goes for underage girls.
Comment by Keith
Actually it was underage boys, notice the way Rush moves those cigars between his lips?
October 8th, 2007 at 3:02 amToo bad you didn’t get that syphillis you contracted from your vc hooch maid treated in time.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:03 amI hear that the first thing to go is your grammar and spelling.
Hey Robroy, I here you get all sweaty and excited when Rush does his cigar- lip thing.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:03 amrobroy is still a pathetic liar and phony, and always will be. That is all.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:03 amSo robroy, tell me,since your a military man, why you back a coward putz like limbaugh?
October 8th, 2007 at 3:04 amDo you robroy, think that an ingrown butt hair should keep a big healthy golf player from going to Iraq?
October 8th, 2007 at 3:06 amrobroy, are you running away? are you caving in, again?
October 8th, 2007 at 3:08 amrobroy is reduced to changing the subject to one he knows about– young boys.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:09 amhmm, love the ip block thing, thought someone would love it
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007
Off topic, the topic is not Transport ControlProtocol/UserDatagramProtocol or the InternetProtocol, the topic is Rush limbaugh, the phony, and his ingrown butt hair, Castro, Cuba, hillbilly heroin and Viagra.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:09 amrobroy, explain to us what it is about Republicans all being perverts. that’s something you have expertise in.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:10 amRush = OxyConMoron
October 8th, 2007 at 3:11 amXisithrus
your legwork perv
Comment by robroy
My legwork? I do not have a drug addiction such as Rush, I worked on military aricraft in support of my country, I signed up for the draft, I never cowered from my duty, RUSH HAS, and now he calls our troops phony!! WHat a CAD!!
October 8th, 2007 at 3:12 amcome on, robroy, give us the inside skinny in Rush’s obsession with Dominican boys. At least say something on a subject you know something about, for a change. Otherwise, everybody here is going to think you’re just a coward and a phony.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:13 amexplain to me why your stupid
Comment by robroy
explain to me whay Rush said drug addicts should be deported and then, hypocritically did not deport himself?
October 8th, 2007 at 3:14 amcheapdrink, explain to us why, when you’ve been corrected multiple times, still can’t get the hang of using the contraction you’re.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:14 amAre you just stupid?
robroy, explain to me why you never learned English. Are you from Mexico? Iran? China? No American past the age of 13 could possess such horrible spelling and grammar. And certainly no officer in rthe US armed forces; that’s how we know without a doubt you’re a fake.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:15 amHow can you defend such a coward as Rush and attack me robroy?
When did Rush ever work on any military craft?
October 8th, 2007 at 3:15 amIf you, robroy, had an ingrown butt hair, would you have let that stop you from serving?
October 8th, 2007 at 3:16 amrobroy, read my responses carefully, and take notes on my spelling and grammar. One day you may actually be able to pull off your phony act. Until then, you’re just another coward hiding behind Rush’s fat ass.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:17 amRUCerious
your just a fool
Comment by robroy
Stop using name calling as a canard to stop from answering the question. You, robroy, from your posts here, defend a chickenhawk. a drug addict who did not serve, simply because he carries water for your team? Are you so shallow as that?
October 8th, 2007 at 3:19 amrobroy, you want to discuss who served? How about Cheney? Rice? Rush? Hannity? Kristol? Perle? Wolfowitz? Barnes? All chickenhawks, posers and liars, just like you.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:19 amrobroy, I know you don’t care about spelling. That’s the sign of a lazy, slovenly mind, proving that you never were in service beyond the rank of buck private. If that, which I doubt. Your hatred of the American way and your disregard for the troops makes it clear you never served.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:22 amthe cancer is in your colin. You have no hope
Comment by robroy
Wishful thinking. I have no colin [sic] cancer.Look around you, those that are ill are liars
October 8th, 2007 at 3:24 amrobroy, how many troops did Clinton stop-loss? How many widows did Clinton create? Compared to Bush, Clinton looks like George Washington and Eisenhower rolled up into one. Bush deserted; that’s even lower than your lying about your fantasy service record.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:24 amrobroy, I should think you’d be embarrassed to bringup that tool colin, another pussy traitor sucking up to Bush.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:25 amI have learned robroy when someone accuses me of something its them that have what they accuse me of.
So you, robroy, have colon cancer?
October 8th, 2007 at 3:25 amLefty Patriot
no it a laptop computer with missing keys… now make something of it
Comment by robroy
I doubt that you typed an ’s’ a moment ago, and I see that no letters [alphabetically] are missing from your posts.
Nice try.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:28 amrobroy, are you losing it completely? you make less sense as the night goes on. which in and of itself is pretty remarkable.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:29 amXisithrus
yeah, i can smell it from here
Comment by robroy
Are you saying your sniffing my ass?
October 8th, 2007 at 3:29 amrobroy’s typing problems are caused by his one-handed technique, as his other hand is busy thinking of Rush and Dominican boys.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:31 ami advise you to get checked though
Comment by robroy
So now you have a crystal ball?
October 8th, 2007 at 3:34 amrobroy, your diversions are perversions, but you don’t worry about it; it’s the republican way. weakness and cowardice mark the right. liars and phonies like robroy are the face of the treasonous right.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:35 amTell me, oh great Kreskin robroy, my age, my race, my city, my state.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:35 amIf you, robroy, had an ingrown butt hair, would you have let that stop you from serving?
Comment by Xisithrus — October 8, 2007 @ 3:16 am
Obviously robotoy is Rush’s ingrown butt hair. That must be where the stink is coming from.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:35 amrobroy is now squarely in fantasyland, the only place he’s comfortable.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:35 amYou’d be amazed
Comment by robroy
So far your batting O
October 8th, 2007 at 3:36 amcmon robroy, oh great pshycic wonder who sees inside my ass, tell me my ip number, the color of my skin, the color of my eyes, the color of my hair, the state and county from which I hail and the age that I am!
October 8th, 2007 at 3:39 amLefty Patriot
no it a laptop computer with missing keys… now make something of it
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007 @ 3:24 am
Not even a good liar. Types the letter as he says said letter is missing from his computer. What are you, a twelve year old boy who read one of daddy’s books on Viet Nam. You did not ever serve, I can see the difference between your pissy attitude and all the real men who I know have served here. You see, I know them and I know you are wrong.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:40 amrobroy started this thread off with a lie, and has batted 0 ever since. his very first post was an outright lie, and he has gone downhill from there.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:40 amI’m waiting to be amazed robroy. Surely you, genius, wont let me down after your previous claims!!
October 8th, 2007 at 3:41 amrobroy has run off to hide, in the mold of his hero Bush.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:41 amrun away, run away! take an English As A Second Language course, robroy. you won’t sound so stupid then, even though you still will be.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:43 amThe Germans said Curveball was a pathological liar and an alcoholic con artist, whose claim of a massive Iraqi WMD program turned out to be false, according to award-winning Los Angeles Times reporter Bob Drogin, writing in his new book, Curveball: Spies, Lies, and the Con Man Who Caused a War, which will go on sale next Monday.
Drogin writes that the CIA ignored not only German but also French intelligence warnings about the informant’s credibility and allowed Bush to cite Curveball’s unconfirmed claims in his 2003 State of the Union address.
CIA Director Tenet also did nothing to prevent then-Secretary of State Colin Powell from highlighting Curveball’s now-discredited “eyewitness†account during his presentation to the U.N. Security Council
October 8th, 2007 at 3:44 amHere is one thing I know for sure from personal experience. During the Viet Nam war senators arranged for Valedictorians to be exempt from the draft. My brother inlaw who was just as poor as Bill Clinton was contacted by Senator Percy and kept out of the service. They aren’t to hot to send the smartest people in the country off to war. Bill Clinton was a Rhode Scholar, do you even know what that means? Go look it up.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:46 amXisithrus
get it checked,
to the rest of you good night, you know your wrong becasue you dont have an argument.
i didnt check the spelling.. fu
Comment by robroy — October 8, 2007
I say the same to you, get your ass checked. So far I am not impressed by your ‘abilities” if you know about my ASS then you should know my name, and you do not.
I say to you robroy, get your liver checked.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:47 amThe bush administration is the worst in US history, in every way. a complete and utter failure from the first day, and only the sick political manuevering of the traitor Rove kept them from being lynched on 9/12. Of course, the bone-deep stupidity of the American right has allowed this cancer to fester, but they are done now. We just have to bury them.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:48 amXisithrus
get it checked
Look Dr Frist!
October 8th, 2007 at 3:48 amX, robroy’s head is so far up his own ass I think he’s been checking it out all night.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:49 amXisithrus
get it checked
Quit sniffing my ass freakazoid
October 8th, 2007 at 3:50 amClinton was a Rhodes Scholar in Constitutional Law! And did so well at Oxford that he got a scholarship to Yale. He didn’t need an accident of birth to get in like some other president I could name.
Some troll at TP the other day (Rory?) was saying that Ann Coulter was the constitutional law expert and Clinton was an idiot. Clinton also went on to teach constitutional law at university.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:52 amX, robroy’s head is so far up his own ass I think he’s been checking it out all night.
Comment by Shayne
Yeh, hes playing on averages on men with colon cancer. it doesn’t run in my family. Notice he could tell me about a possible [common] illness but could not tell me where I lived or anything else?
The internet is full of these ‘fake psychics’ pitching odds and hopinf they hit a target and hoping one claims “how did you know??’ Its an old lame bullshit game. Notice robroy has left the site.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:54 amAs for Fake News turning 11, happy birthday morons, keep up the propaganda, you guys are doing a great job of lying to the public. As for Rush LIMPbaugh, he’s a NAZI sympathying idiot who hates Americans, but claims to love his country. He also is a COWARD in every since of the word. He avoided going to Viet Nam because like his two idols, Bush and Cheney, he had better things to do like use drugs. And as for Fred “Azz Kisser” Barnes, he’s a joke who has no intregrity at all. The sad part about it is that he really thinks he’s right about Obama. The problem with Chicken Hawks like him, it they didn’t fight when they were young enough.
I’ll bet that Fred has never even been in a fight, whether at grade school or anywhere else. It’s easy to hold someones coat while they fight and you cheer. This fool would piss his pants if he got blood on his shoes or cloths. So Fred you closeted Coward, come out, come out and stop lying about Obama. At least he stood up for something he believed in rather than follow the crowd who yelled the loudest.
October 8th, 2007 at 8:14 amApparently the administration didn’t truly believe Iraq had WMDs, either, yet they were selling this story to the public. Had they truly believed it, Rumsfeld in 2006 wouldn’t have revised his statement in 2003 that “we” knew where the WMD stockpiles where.
As you know, he changed his tune by saying we knew where the suspected sites where. Take it for what it’s worth; if indeed they were suspected sites in 2003, then we truly could not prove that the WMDs were actually there.
October 8th, 2007 at 8:58 amComment by Lefty Patriot — October 8, 2007 @ 3:48 am
I knew we were in trouble with Bush when he announced that he wanted to scrap the nuclear arms treaties that had kept the peace for decades. I’m sure if Alberto had been around at that time, he would have labeled them “quaint.”
October 8th, 2007 at 9:00 amTalk about revisionist history and “spinning” a story! This is shameful. I suggest we et up a boycott for anyone advertising on the show Barnes made that comment as well as on Rush’s show for the comment about “phony” soldiers.
We have to show these networks that they can’t just lie through their teeth with no accountability worrys. If we were to put together a list of their advertisers and then start to circulate the boycott through the liberal blog-o-sphere, I think we could generate enough results to have an effect on them
check out http://willyloman.wordpress.com/ “A Line in the Sand”, a new article by yours truely.
I will also put up later, a reccomendation for the boycott plan. We have to take a stand on this shit!
October 8th, 2007 at 9:01 amWow, the Fox haters are out in full force today. You criticize Fox, but never criticize Keith Olbermann.
Some of the dumbest ad hominem attacks ever posted can be found in this thread.
Comment by JSchmoAZ — October 8, 2007 @ 8:59 am
Gee, I don’t see Keith’s name mentioned anywhere in the headline of this thread.
Besides, I imagine the format of his show is not to bring any opposing viewpoints on. Don’t like his show? Then don’t watch it. As well, MSNBC offers “balance” by having Tucker and Scarborough (sp?) on the air.
Then again, maybe we do need an answer to O’Reilly, who brings an opposing viewpoint on and then shouts them down by telling them how wrong they are, and then cuts their mike when he doesn’t want to hear it anymore.
October 8th, 2007 at 9:08 amI don’t really think what Barnes is saying is newsworthy. It’s not surprising that a conservative would take that stance. In the cons’ view, the evidence at the time pointed to a threat and anyone that would have refused to authorize military action in face of that threat is a pussy.
No surprise or outrage on my part – they’ve pretty much always said that. And in doing so today bolstered the position of almost all the other democratic candidates.
October 8th, 2007 at 9:12 amWow, way to turn a thread over to a troll. I counted 134 out of 200 posts by or about Jake’s latest incarnation as robroy. I gave up counting at 200. Why do you guys do that? Why did you even respond to him after the 10th post?
October 8th, 2007 at 9:39 amIt is beyond me how any adult with an IQ above room temperature can think that Faux Noise is “fair and balanced”. Their news reporting is completely from a point of view of the Right. And if any Democrat is stupid enough to go on any of the talking head shows, they get shouted down, belittled, or their mic’s turned off if they are making too good of a point.
Also, I have seen plenty of Republicans on Countdown. The are not the Right Wing Loon Republicans, but they are republicans.
I also love how these loons say that Countdown has poor ratings. Apparently in the last month or so Countdown has caught up to O’Lielly and even bested him. And for the core audience of 24-54, he consistently beats O’Lielly.
October 8th, 2007 at 9:47 am!
DID SOME MISTAKE THIS FOR A GRADESCHOOL CHAT ROOM?
jeez…
i will NEVER understand the reasoning behind engaging stoopidity…
it can’t be gratifying, as that idjit has no point to make…
save the arguing for a worthy conversation…
9/10s of this thread is a waste of space…
October 8th, 2007 at 10:42 amTP must be on vacation… good for them…
but, jeez …
.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — October 8, 2007 @ 10:51 am
You want to compare dealing with a news organization to dealing with foreign governments? What a laugh.
October 8th, 2007 at 11:19 amAnd also, how confident can we be, that if liberals are unwilling (or unable) to face conservatives; that they have the ability to address foreign governments with even more divergent views?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — October 8, 2007 @ 10:51 am
Well, hell, I’d say Saddam had even more divergent views than Fox News, wouldn’t you? So all we gotta do is invade those countries and kick the leaders out. It worked so well in Iraq, you know.
October 8th, 2007 at 11:28 amCaptain,
Did you happen to read the crap you just posted in #415. My uneducated neocon. Leading the country doesn’t mean do whatever you want and tell everyone to eat shit. That is not a leader its a tyrannical dictator. And what of your liberal media sponsored pep rallies? I believe its been only been bush, cheney, and the conservative ilk that will only speak at prescreened audiences and on faux news for nazis.
Believe me, we are ready to lead the country. I doubt you will ever be ready to follow.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:04 pmComment by CaptainMantastic — October 8, 2007 @ 11:47 am
Any American who casts a vote for the Republican nominee because of, or based in part on, the Democratic nominee’s reluctance to debate on Fox is an ignorant fool. Next you’ll be telling us that a governor has more foreign policy experience than a senator.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:18 pm11 years of Britney Spears – sorta says it all.
CaptianGaytastic, drink much coolaid?
Buck Fush
October 8th, 2007 at 12:35 pmI’ll bet Fox News has lowered the national IQ by at least ten points.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:36 pmIf democrats are ready to lead this country, prove it by exposing them to real scrutiny, not liberal media sponsored pep rallies.
Your democrats are so much smarter, that shouldn’t be a problem, right?
Your reluctance exposes your insecurity.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — October 8, 2007 @ 11:47 am
You mean like Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld appearing on Larry King live in taped interviews so that they do not have to face the public by taking their phone calls.
If the Americans who watch Fox News were truly interested in getting different viewpoints, and interested in truly following the Democratic candidates, then they’d switch channels every once in awhile and check all the sources of news, not just one.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:38 pmComment by CaptainMantastic — October 8, 2007 @ 11:53 am
Oh, the Democrats have ideas, just none that you, nor many Republicans, happen to like. And since you don’t like them, or don’t agree with them, in your twisted logic that translates into them not having any ideas at all.
Just like the recent announcement by the British government that they are withdrawing troops, the American government trashes anyone that has a policy that they don’t agree with. I do believe it wasn’t that long ago that the administration was praising the work of the British troops. Now that they want to withdraw, which is in direct opposition to the viewpoint of the Bush gang, the British troops are labeled a failure.
October 8th, 2007 at 12:44 pmComment by CaptainMantastic — October 8, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
The Repubs in the 109th Congress failed to pass 11 spending bills, which they sent on to the current Congress. Why? Are you going to blame obstructionism on the part of the Dems? I think I do recall that the Repubs threw that term around a few times to explain why they couldn’t get anything done.
What did the 109th Congress get done other than being a rubber stamp for Bush?
One thing this Congress has done is to provide much needed oversight of the Bush administration…you know, the one the last Congress refused to investigate (despite Republican members stating publicly that Bush had broken the law and then didn’t do a damned thing about it), and the one who has blocked investigations and declared itself above all laws and all oversight and has claimed Executive Privilege so many times it makes your head spin.
October 9th, 2007 at 8:49 amJust a reminder, the American government didn’t ‘trash’ Britain. TP buried the source – an unnamed senior White House foreign policy official.
If progressives want people to start taking them seriously, they won’t rely on unnamed sources to convince us of their partisan views.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — October 8, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
Given this administration’s track record on trashing the U.S. Attorneys it fired, after giving them glowing reviews, I’d say this story has quite a bit of merit.
October 9th, 2007 at 8:51 am