Comments on: Corzine Blasts Bush’s ‘Misinformation’ On SCHIP http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:29:57 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: puffin http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4112193 puffin Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:39:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4112193 The Democrats need to go back to talking income taxes, not sales taxes. <strong>The tax on cigarettes is a SALES TAX! THAT'S WHAT REPUBLICANS DO! </strong> With Democrats like these, who needs Republicans? The Democrats need to go back to talking income taxes, not sales taxes. The tax on cigarettes is a SALES TAX! THAT’S WHAT REPUBLICANS DO!

With Democrats like these, who needs Republicans?

]]> By: RightOfAttila http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4110806 RightOfAttila Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:43:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4110806 I agree with the objective of providing health care for needy children but I think this is best undertaken by NGOs, Red Cross, churches, civic groups, volunteers, etc. What most people don't realize is that some people who want these programs are motivated by something else. Some of them are from the unions who see increased goverment programs as a way to increase the number of gov't workers and the union dues they pay. Some politicians see the programs as a way to get more of people's hard-earned money in order to excercise more control of people's behavior. Some people see programs as way to get the govt. to force other people to pay for things that they need or want without having to work for them. If you really want these programs, there's nothing stopping you from organizing a civic / charitable group and start asking for people's support. You don't need the goverment! And don't think that these are acts of charity either. A charitable act requires voluntary giving. There's nothing voluntary when the gov't forces people to pay and threatens them with tax evasion / jail time if they don't. I agree with the objective of providing health care for needy children but I think this is best undertaken by NGOs, Red Cross, churches, civic groups, volunteers, etc. What most people don’t realize is that some people who want these programs are motivated by something else. Some of them are from the unions who see increased goverment programs as a way to increase the number of gov’t workers and the union dues they pay. Some politicians see the programs as a way to get more of people’s hard-earned money in order to excercise more control of people’s behavior. Some people see programs as way to get the govt. to force other people to pay for things that they need or want without having to work for them. If you really want these programs, there’s nothing stopping you from organizing a civic / charitable group and start asking for people’s support. You don’t need the goverment! And don’t think that these are acts of charity either. A charitable act requires voluntary giving. There’s nothing voluntary when the gov’t forces people to pay and threatens them with tax evasion / jail time if they don’t.

]]> By: old_hack http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4110773 old_hack Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:06:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4110773 taxing the poor (smokers) to pay for the poor is communism. I want socialism damn it. Get the money from CHEVRON. If the parents of low income houses could afford health care they'd buy it themselves. It's the RICH not the Smokers! taxing the poor (smokers) to pay for the poor is communism. I want socialism damn it. Get the money from CHEVRON. If the parents of low income houses could afford health care they’d buy it themselves.

It’s the RICH not the Smokers!

]]> By: gturck http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4110530 gturck Mon, 08 Oct 2007 09:51:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4110530 The disinformation has worked so well that here in Central Texas near Ft. Hood people think that the money is going to families that can afford insurance but don't want to pay for it. It doesn't seem to sink in that $300 - $400 a month for minimal coverage is an impossibility for many many families. Those from military families who have access to military coverage really don't fare very well either since that system is so over-burdened (this is not VA coverage) still think that only those on Medicaid (coded as cheats) should have coverage and everyone else should buy it as they do or shut up. The disinformation has worked so well that here in Central Texas near Ft. Hood people think that the money is going to families that can afford insurance but don’t want to pay for it. It doesn’t seem to sink in that $300 – $400 a month for minimal coverage is an impossibility for many many families. Those from military families who have access to military coverage really don’t fare very well either since that system is so over-burdened (this is not VA coverage) still think that only those on Medicaid (coded as cheats) should have coverage and everyone else should buy it as they do or shut up.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4110138 katy Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:17:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4110138 bring it back TP... pretend i put an * in the word f*ck... but post my comment, please. bring it back TP… pretend i put an * in the word f*ck…
but post my comment, please.

]]> By: Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4110075 Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:07:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4110075 When Bush says, "compassion" he means "come fascism." When Bush says, “compassion” he means “come fascism.”

]]> By: dixie blood http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4109961 dixie blood Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:44:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4109961 <em>I dont think Jason Baddo is a troll, what happened when Bush gave tax cuts to the upper percentile created a tax shift, tax receipts have gone up which shows that in effect there was no tax-cut. [Mises institute/Tax shift http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=109] Comment by Xisithrus — October 7, 2007 @ 6:16 pm</em> You're comment makes no sense. It's a disjointed diatribe. Are you asking a question or just proving your idiocy?? <b>See how I use the "?" for a question? You should try to follow this protocol once in a while!!!!!!</b> I dont think Jason Baddo is a troll, what happened when Bush gave tax cuts to the upper percentile created a tax shift, tax receipts have gone up which shows that in effect there was no tax-cut.
[Mises institute/Tax shift
http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=109

Comment by Xisithrus — October 7, 2007 @ 6:16 pm

You’re comment makes no sense. It’s a disjointed diatribe. Are you asking a question or just proving your idiocy?? See how I use the “?” for a question? You should try to follow this protocol once in a while!!!!!!

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4109959 RUCerious Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:43:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4109959 Let's hope the repugnicants are swept clean out in 08, if not by dems, then by indies and greens. Let’s hope the repugnicants are swept clean out in 08, if not by dems, then by indies and greens.

]]> By: dixie blood http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4109955 dixie blood Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:37:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4109955 <em>Things haven’t gotten bad enough for enough people to rebel. The people in power hope that by the time the masses wake up, they will be too suppressed/oppressed to be able to effect change by any means, peaceful or otherwise. Comment by Briseadh na Faire — October 7, 2007 @ 4:41 pm</em> BnF, The "masses" are awake. They have been and continue to be awake since the 2006 midterm elections. The "masses" are made up of many factions. The uber-rich-reich, the screwed middle-class and the double screwed poor. The uber-rich-reich are the "masses" that screw the rest of the "masses" in this country!! The problem is that lots and lots and lots of morons and idiots and suckers and other stupid phucks in the south and mid-west VOTE and VOTE and VOTE against their own BEST INTERST because they are REPUGNISCUMS!!! IT'S NOT THE MASSES IT'S THE STUPID PHUCKS THAT CAN'T STOP SUCKING REPUPUNISCUM TEATS!!! Things haven’t gotten bad enough for enough people to rebel. The people in power hope that by the time the masses wake up, they will be too suppressed/oppressed to be able to effect change by any means, peaceful or otherwise.

Comment by Briseadh na Faire — October 7, 2007 @ 4:41 pm

BnF,

The “masses” are awake. They have been and continue to be awake since the 2006 midterm elections.

The “masses” are made up of many factions. The uber-rich-reich, the screwed middle-class and the double screwed poor.

The uber-rich-reich are the “masses” that screw the rest of the “masses” in this country!!

The problem is that lots and lots and lots of morons and idiots and suckers and other stupid phucks in the south and mid-west VOTE and VOTE and VOTE against their own BEST INTERST because they are REPUGNISCUMS!!!

IT’S NOT THE MASSES IT’S THE STUPID PHUCKS THAT CAN’T STOP SUCKING REPUPUNISCUM TEATS!!!

]]> By: willyloman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4109954 willyloman Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:36:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4109954 There is a clause in the compramise bill that allows states to vote to give the intire plan over to private insurance companies. It is a quiet "privaitzation" plan. I feel the new compramise will be set up so that all states will privatize the program and increase federal money to it. read the best blogg that no-one reads at: http://willyloman.wordpress.com/ There is a clause in the compramise bill that allows states to vote to give the intire plan over to private insurance companies. It is a quiet “privaitzation” plan. I feel the new compramise will be set up so that all states will privatize the program and increase federal money to it.

read the best blogg that no-one reads at:

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/

]]> By: Xisithrus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4109948 Xisithrus Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:16:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4109948 Comment by dixie blood — October 7, 2007 I dont think Jason Baddo is a troll, what happened when Bush gave tax cuts to the upper percentile created a tax shift, tax receipts have gone up which shows that in effect there was no tax-cut. [Mises institute/Tax shift http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=109] Comment by dixie blood — October 7, 2007

I dont think Jason Baddo is a troll, what happened when Bush gave tax cuts to the upper percentile created a tax shift, tax receipts have gone up which shows that in effect there was no tax-cut.
[Mises institute/Tax shift
http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=109

]]> By: Xisithrus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4109946 Xisithrus Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:11:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4109946 Perry Logan, when one has the power of the veto and executive signing statements at hand it really isnt political genius. Its like taking a hammer to an ant hill just because you can. What this does is upset the checks and balances in the constitution, something Republicans used to actually stand up for. ~~~~~~~~ All these scum sucking Southern redneck inbred uneducated born again A**holes are there own worst enemies…. I am from the South, what you are seeing is the move of Republicans from the north, the Rust Belt, into the south, Bush is not a Texan, they got their start in Ohio with Buckeye castings and came south for the oil. Perry Logan, when one has the power of the veto and executive signing statements at hand it really isnt political genius. Its like taking a hammer to an ant hill just because you can. What this does is upset the checks and balances in the constitution, something Republicans used to actually stand up for.
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All these scum sucking Southern redneck inbred uneducated born again A**holes are there own worst enemies….

I am from the South, what you are seeing is the move of Republicans from the north, the Rust Belt, into the south, Bush is not a Texan, they got their start in Ohio with Buckeye castings and came south for the oil.

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4109925 The Republic of Stupidity Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:27:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4109925 Ignore or suffer the consequences!!! You’ve been warned!! Comment by dixie blood — October 7, 2007 @ 5:06 pm Geez... what happens?? Ignore or suffer the consequences!!! You’ve been warned!!

Comment by dixie blood — October 7, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
Geez… what happens??

]]> By: dixie blood http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4109918 dixie blood Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:06:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4109918 <em>Comment by jason baddo — October 7, 2007 @ 5:04 pm</em> Y'all, <b>This guy is a troll. Ignore or suffer the consequences!!! You've been warned!!</b> Comment by jason baddo — October 7, 2007 @ 5:04 pm

Y’all,

This guy is a troll. Ignore or suffer the consequences!!! You’ve been warned!!

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4109915 MapleStreet Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:54:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4109915 Could someone explain to me why, when talking about health insurance for children, 65,000 is upper middle class elite. Yet, when talking about tax cuts for the middle class, they're talking about people making over $200,000 per year ? Could someone explain to me why, when talking about health insurance for children, 65,000 is upper middle class elite. Yet, when talking about tax cuts for the middle class, they’re talking about people making over $200,000 per year ?

]]> By: Briseadh na Faire http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4109912 Briseadh na Faire Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:41:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4109912 Problem is, this helps poor children. Instead, Bush pushes for permanent repeal of the Dynasty Tax (aka Estate Tax; "Death Tax) so that rich kids can inherit limitless wealth and live princely lifestyles as they create perpetual dynasties to rule the United States, and, by extension, the World. Things haven't gotten bad enough for enough people to rebel. The people in power hope that by the time the masses wake up, they will be too suppressed/oppressed to be able to effect change by any means, peaceful or otherwise. Problem is, this helps poor children.

Instead, Bush pushes for permanent repeal of the Dynasty Tax (aka Estate Tax; “Death Tax) so that rich kids can inherit limitless wealth and live princely lifestyles as they create perpetual dynasties to rule the United States, and, by extension, the World.

Things haven’t gotten bad enough for enough people to rebel. The people in power hope that by the time the masses wake up, they will be too suppressed/oppressed to be able to effect change by any means, peaceful or otherwise.

]]> By: kasinca http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4109911 kasinca Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:39:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4109911 Hypocrite = Bible toting rethuglicans who claim to be Christians but whose actions are evil, warmongering, greedy, and dishonest. Dubya does not act like a Christian. Dubya acts like a hypocritical sob. Hypocrite = Bible toting rethuglicans who claim to be Christians but whose actions are evil, warmongering, greedy, and dishonest. Dubya does not act like a Christian. Dubya acts like a hypocritical sob.

]]> By: sluggo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4109910 sluggo Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:36:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4109910 You can see why Rove bailed ship. He is smart enough to see that Bush is steering the good ship RepublicanTitanic into the ice. Rove knows that Bush and his Gang have tied themselves to the wheel and are prepared to do down with everyone on board. Rove wants to have a future in Politics and wants his latter-term resume clear of the coming Bush disaster. The problem is that Bush is going to take a lot of people down with him when he sinks the ship; poor children, our economy, our troops. I wish the Democrats had the guts to just take control and try to keep our country from falling apart. I guess the Democrates in Congress are not willing to "look bad" by strongly resisting Bush (no matter how dumb this reason). Sigh...... You can see why Rove bailed ship. He is smart enough to see that Bush is steering the good ship RepublicanTitanic into the ice. Rove knows that Bush and his Gang have tied themselves to the wheel and are prepared to do down with everyone on board.

Rove wants to have a future in Politics and wants his latter-term resume clear of the coming Bush disaster.

The problem is that Bush is going to take a lot of people down with him when he sinks the ship; poor children, our economy, our troops.

I wish the Democrats had the guts to just take control and try to keep our country from falling apart. I guess the Democrates in Congress are not willing to “look bad” by strongly resisting Bush (no matter how dumb this reason).

Sigh……

]]> By: tomazulob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4109908 tomazulob Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:37:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4109908 Block out everything this bunch of liars say, as they try to confuse the situation. Focus only on their actions. Bush vetoes a bill for children. Bush is pushing for more money for his oil war. Stop listening to the words, and all becomes crystal clear: This is a greedy, soulless, anti-Christian cabal. Block out everything this bunch of liars say, as they try to confuse the situation. Focus only on their actions. Bush vetoes a bill for children. Bush is pushing for more money for his oil war. Stop listening to the words, and all becomes crystal clear: This is a greedy, soulless, anti-Christian cabal.

]]> By: koko the talking gorilla http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4109902 koko the talking gorilla Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:05:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/07/corzine-schip/#comment-4109902 <em>Bush’s final legacy may well be that he was ultimately responsible for politically destroying the Republican party.</em> All of the Republicans I meet (I'm in California) are outspoken about how much they despise that man in the White House, for ruining their party, spoiling what it stands for, and destroying any chance of a GOP majority for the forseeable future. Honestly, the language they use in denouncing Bush is as blistering as anything you'd read here at TP. Bush’s final legacy may well be that he was ultimately responsible for politically destroying the Republican party.

All of the Republicans I meet (I’m in California) are outspoken about how much they despise that man in the White House, for ruining their party, spoiling what it stands for, and destroying any chance of a GOP majority for the forseeable future. Honestly, the language they use in denouncing Bush is as blistering as anything you’d read here at TP.

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