Some could argue the motive to invade Iran would be Iranian oil. But with the terms of Bush and Cheney ending in January ‘09, it would seem unlikely they would be able to fulfill such a goal before they were out of office. Would Bush starting a new war just before the ‘08 elections help the Republican Presidential candidate get elected? This potential benefit would seem dubious a best.

Maybe its just the ongoing neo-con insanity and its obsession to conquer the entire Middle East.

Again, anybody have any thoughts about the hidden agenda of this Administration for invading Iraq?

They didn’t vote for it because they didn’t want to lose that “bundling” money.

If you want to believe that our “smart bombs” reduce collateral damage, you go right ahead, but the Pentagon says they missed 100% of their first 50 targets in the Iraq version of “shock and Awe”. Makes you kind of wonder if they missed targets or just didn’t want to admit they hit what they wanted to hit, civilian targets.

I don’t dream of a military invasion against Iran, any more than I dreamed one against Iraq -which is to say not at all.

The US’ military spending and hardware have no rival on the planet. And Iran doesn’t even have a nuclear deterrent.

If we invade Iran, we will be creamed and many of our soldiers will lose their lives for another unwinnable and unnecessary cause.

I didn’t say Iranians would put their arms down and open the doors to the American troops, did I?

What I was trying to say, and I stand by that, is that -given its track record of absolute recklessness- I fear the Bush administration will likely launch an attack against Iran, and that the US troops will enter that country. At what cost, I don’t know, but it will certainly won’t be small.

Not that that fact would stop this administration hell-bent on a permanent military presence in the Middle East.

They don’t want to go to soon then they will loose the “shock” value, and if it turns into a quagmire, they could loose a lot of seats in congress as well as the White House.

They are much better off going right now and getting it done quick, or waiting till Aug or Sept. 08, then selling the “dems are soft on war” crap.

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If I remember correctly, they said that they would do that before the left for their month-long vacation. That vacation seems to have given them a good case of amnesia because they haven’t done one thing they said they would do before they left for vacation like reverse the wiretapping law, restore habus corpus and rein in Bush on Iran.

Your “explanation” is only more nonsense.

So, Fineman is not to be believed that three reports on Iran are going to be released? Or that these reports, in his opinion, are going to slow down Bush’s race for a confrontation against Iran?

And if you have any evidence that no such reports are going to be released, or that they do not cast doubts on Pres Bush’s “Iran is evil” rhetoric, let’s see it. Otherwise your psychotic rants are just that, psychotic rants.

(Fineman’s “left-wing agenda”? What a bizarre statement. It would seem anyone not prostrating themselves before the Bush altar has a “left-wing agenda” nowadays. At least in the opinion of the Bush cultists -that odd, circus-freak lot)

I assume by this you mean that the US has a superior military. Where have you been? The US has a broken military full of tired, shell-shocked and ill-equipped soldiers. You think they could successfully invade Iran with it’s huge well equipped army? Dream on, it ain’t going to happen. If we invade Iran, we will be creamed and many of our soldiers will lose their lives for another unwinnable and unnecessary cause.

Bush decides to go to war with Iran and starts airstrikes. He has forces in the region but they are all attending to other matters. Do you send half the forces in Iraq dashing across eastern Iraq into Iran? Do you leave them Iraq and after the airstrikes, Iran invades Iraq with the assistance of the Shia in southern Iraq who they have probably been supporting already?

Do we really have the forces in the region in large enough numbers to take on total war with a nation-state. Hell, do we have the forces in the region and without to take on a nation state in total war.

How deep in the shit are we then?

Heh. You’ve got a point there.

Although I would argue that “necessary” is a very relative term when used by the Bush administration.

After all, they insisted the invasion of Iraq was “necessary” lest those pesky, non-existing WMD find their way into some unknown, unnamed terrorist’s hands.

Comment by Gregor Samsa — October 7, 2007 @ 12:03 pm

One small correction, Gregor?

“They will use force EVEN IF IT’S NOT necessary.”

In other words, because they want to…

Is okay?

Three years ago Cheney made deals with Dubai for Iran oil with the approval of Iran. Now remember the Iran President is a figure head not the leader. The Supreme Leader calls the shots.

Dubai will not allow Iran to be bombed and Bush/Cheney know it. While Americans were watching celebrities headlines Cheney has been busy with oil deals. Yes Iraq was disappointing but Cheney knows the any leader in Iraq will work with Iran and Dubai. Now the Saudis worked with the US to get control of Iraq but it didn’t work. Now the Saudis feel they have to set aside they friendship with the US and support their followers in Iraq. While the White House officials were lying in the hearings the Kurds made a deal with Turkey with Kurd oil.

Are you following me yet.

All the talk about bombing Iran and hating the Iran President is to cover up that deals are in the works with Cheney and Iran as well as Dubai. Dubai has a hotel in New York City as pay off for the problems with the New York Ports. Now Dubai does have the ports but under a proxy name so that plan worked. Oh yes and Daddy Bush has his shares in it. The GOP knew just how to pull the strings of the American people and it worked.

Now the secrets are out and the moves have been made so you notice how many people are leaving the White House inter circle of Bush/Cheney. This was the plan when Bush took office and with the help of the Media and putting the right Judges in place it worked. Some loyal players had to fall for the cause but they are all good soldiers for the Satan Party.

The sad part of this truth is some GOP leaders weren’t part of the team and will be labeled bad because of those who went along with the Crimes. Our troops were just a front for what was really going on. Our tax dollars were used to silence those who were players. Other countries even as small were given weapons and money to join in. Osama was never seriously the White House’s target of interest. Now that you know what was really going on if you don’t believe me you’ll see for yourself in the need future as it will come out, but it’ll be to late for Americans to do anything about it.

What a pathetic attempt at shooting down the messenger.

And your point is…?

So don’t expect much Saudi Bashing from the US Govt.

I’ve read reports stating that at least half of all foreign fighters are from Saudi Arabia. I do remember that 90% of 9/11 guys were from the kingdom, and the big dude, OBL, also comes from the kingdom.

Are we only allowed to fight shadows here? Are we just playing a great big game of pretend. What does it take to start impeaching these traitors?