Two weeks ago, the Democratic radio address was delivered by a 12-year old Maryland boy named Graeme Frost. Graeme told his story of being involved in a severe car accident three years ago, and having received access to medical care because of the Children’s Health Insurance Program. He said:
If it weren’t for CHIP, I might not be here today. … We got the help we needed because we had health insurance for us through the CHIP program. But there are millions of kids out there who don’t have CHIP, and they wouldn’t get the care that my sister and I did if they got hurt. … I just hope the President will listen to my story and help other kids to be as lucky as me.
The right-wing immediately condemned Democrats for daring to put a human face on the SCHIP program at a time when Bush was proposing a “diminishment of the number of children covered.” Rep. John Boehner (R-OH) — who has posed with children to advance his own political agenda — claimed Graeme was being used “as a human shield.”
Conservatives have more recently turned their targets on young Graeme Frost himself. A poster at the Free Republic propagated information alleging that Frost was actually a rich kid being pampered by the government. Among other bits of information, the post by the Freeper “icwhatudo” asserts that Graeme and his sister Gemma attend wealthy schools that cost “nearly $40,000 per year for tuition” and live in a well-off home.
The smear attack against Graeme has taken firm hold in the right-wing blogosphere. The National Review, Michelle Malkin, Wizbang, Powerline, and the Weekly Standard blog have all launched assaults on the Frost family. The story is slowly working its way into traditional media outlets as well.
Here are the facts that the right-wing distorted in order to attack young Graeme:
1) Graeme has a scholarship to a private school. The school costs $15K a year, but the family only pays $500 a year.
2) His sister Gemma attends another private school to help her with the brain injuries that occurred due to her accident. The school costs $23,000 a year, but the state pays the entire cost.
3) They bought their “lavish house” sixteen years ago for $55,000 at a time when the neighborhood was less than safe.
4) Last year, the Frosts made $45,000 combined. Over the past few years they have made no more than $50,000 combined.
5) The state of Maryland has found them eligible to participate in the CHIP program.
Desperate to defend Bush’s decision to cut off millions of children from health care, the right wing has stooped to launching baseless and uninformed attacks against a 12 year old child and his family.
Right wing bloggers have been harassing the Frosts, calling their home numerous times to get information about their private lives. Compassionate conservatism indeed.
UPDATE: TP commenter Mr. Ed notes that Malkin visited the Frost’s home and business today. A coworker of Mr. Frost tells Malkin that the family is “struggling,” but she refuses to believe it.
UPDATE II: More from John Aravosis, Whiskey Fire, All Spin Zone, Matt Ortega, FDL, and Kos.
pathetic slugs these conservonauts.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:09 pmoh man, I had a sweet troll post all done up, but then I read the full post, and come on, it sounds like the family got pretty hurt in the car accident, and the state is doing quite a bit to help them out. Even I realized it would have been in poor taste.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:13 pmPrinceps -
That’s the idea. Let’s let it work for other kids who don’t have health insurance as well. I think that is what Graeme was suggesting.
Sincerely,
October 8th, 2007 at 5:13 pmNice. Watch the big, brave Repukes beat up on a 12 year old boy.
Next thing you know, they’ll sic Rush on him.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:14 pmHow can anyone continue to support an agenda that relies on tactics like this to try and rebut an argument?
October 8th, 2007 at 5:14 pmJust when you think right-wing Republicans can’t possibly go any lower, they prove you wrong once again. The only compassion conservatives have is for themselves. Their number one objection to any social program that aids the poor, the hungry, or the uninsured is that these programs take tax dollars that could be given to them. Conservatives love welfare as long as it is for them.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:16 pmHey all …
Malkin went up to visit with a tenant of his business property. They also drove past his home and remarked about the bumper sticker that said “1-20-09″.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:16 pmPrinceps
Yeah, then on the sidebar 99% of the liblogs you will see an image of Rush with a quotation saying ‘The Phony 12 year olds.’
If he’s dumb enough to say something like that again, why blame the left for taking advantage?
October 8th, 2007 at 5:19 pmThere is no bottom to how low Republican scum will go. These people are sick. But the good news is that they are contributing to the destruction of the GOP.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:19 pmWhy are Republican Party priorities so out of wack, and how can the right-wing sycophant-o-blog-o-sphere never question/challenge the Bush administration on ANYTHING?
Funding this program is the right thing to do for our COUNTRY. Partisan politics shouldn’t even play a part in this issue. This funding passed with wide BIPARTISAN support for a reason.
This “attack the messenger” approach against an injured child and his family is beyond disgusting. It’s the very definition of unAmerican.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:20 pmPrinceps - Rush is perfectly willing to mock someone with Parkinson’s disease and an injured American vet - why not a 12 year old…?
October 8th, 2007 at 5:21 pmPrinceps
I would expect nothing less from the left.
To take advantage of an obvious political/social gaff? Why would you expect them to ignore it? I guess I fail to see what the downside to it would be?
October 8th, 2007 at 5:23 pmI’m surprised Rush hasn’t sent out a press release to Drudge & Politico.
He will be all over it tomorrow.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:23 pmToo bad the Cancer Kid isn’t still Bush’s mouthpiece. We’d see headlines like, “Snow Slams Frost” or “Frost Dusted By Snow.”
October 8th, 2007 at 5:23 pmThe Repukian Scum are real brave against a 12 year old. That’s as brave as they get. Faced with someone who can handle themselves they will tuck their tail between their legs and run everytime.
Buck Fush
October 8th, 2007 at 5:24 pmHow quickly we are now sidetracked. The Ghost in the Machine continues. The Repubs will stoop to nothing.
However, I must say this. I don’t want to pay more for my cigarettes.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:24 pmYou gotta check out Michelle Malkin, too. She’s on a rampage, apparently stalking the family.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:25 pmPlease TP, just the facts. It’s a good story and i’m glad you’re featuring it. I’m with you up until the part where you say, “Right wing bloggers have been harassing the Frosts, calling their home numerous times to get information about their private lives.” You see, you’re complaining that the Right wing Bloogers are not getting the facts about the Frosts and you simultaneous complaining that they are calling the Frosts to get the facts.
Your comment is not integral to the story and actually detracts from it as it shows that they could not possibly meet your standard no matter what they do. May I suggest that you excise that comment.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:25 pmYour comment is not integral to the story and actually detracts from it as it shows that they could not possibly meet your standard no matter what they do. May I suggest that you excise that comment.
Comment by Eskwaya — October 8, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
Go f*ck yourself, you whining ass. The comment is the point of the story: Republicans are cowardly scum that will stoop as low as they can to gain political profit from injured children. This is the point that needs to be hammered on again and again, until Republicans are driven from office and no longer able to harm the USA.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:30 pmhttp://michellemalkin.com/
October 8th, 2007 at 5:30 pmDo you have the link?
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
No link necessary. If it can be the lowest form of behavior a human is capable of, it will be done by Malkin.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:31 pmEskwaya,
The whole point of the post is how low the right-wing will stoop in their attacks, so why would personally calling the family repeatedly with harrassing calls, or even going to their home like Malkin is doing not be relevant to this post???
If the left-wing criticizes someone like Malkin or Limbaugh for something they said, do they call them personally at home repeatedly, and go to their house? That’s not an attempt to find the facts. That’s an attempt to SILENCE people who speak out.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:32 pmDo you have the link?
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
Can you read?
look at the “update” for the thread.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:32 pmYour comment is not integral to the story and actually detracts from it as it shows that they could not possibly meet your standard no matter what they do. May I suggest that you excise that comment.
Comment by Eskwaya — October 8, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
It’s exactly integral to the story, which is that conservatives will even go so far as to attack children and their families. The fact is, none of these personal facts are pertinent to anything, except that now that the righties have outed this family, everyone knows who they are, where they live, how much they earn, where there kids go to school, and on and on. And now they take those facts and twist them to show that this family is actually “well-to-do.” The facts were no one’s business. The state of Maryland deems them proper beneficiaries, go talk to the state of Maryland. Stop stalking the family. And THAT’s the point of the story.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:36 pmLet’s see, and these Republicans claim to be Christian as well. I guess they think Christ would have trashed these children and their family too?
October 8th, 2007 at 5:37 pmThis is no surprise. In fact it is the wingnuts m.o.: attack the messenger, throw in misleading and false information, and distract from the issue until it goes away.
Send out the henchmen! Intimidate the small and weak until they have no voice! Elitist America shall prevail! Afterall, a healthy life is a privilage only for the wealthy, not a right for all equally.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:39 pmReally what these GOP’ers need to ask is what would Jesus do. Is this what he taught, is this what Jesus stands for? They supposedly represent a christian america, attacking the left for its supposed atheism, and yet this is how they act.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:39 pmThe truth is the gop can spin lies and attack all they want, GOD is watching and ultimately they are going to have to answer to him and will suffer forever more.
I really feel sorry for them, they have lost their way and are heading for destruction.
I just read the Michelle Malkin Link above.
Damn I’m sick to my stomach. I guess she doesn’t believe in Karma. But she spends so much time throwing around moral temper tantrums….Does she believe in god or just the mighty greenback. My guess would be only the mighty greenback.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:41 pmJeeze, I don’t see any “update” on Malkin’s website clearing up the question of how the kids can afford private school. Scholarship, Michelle? Subsidy?
The woman is totally without honor or ethics, but she’s also totally without credibility among any but the wingnuttiest of wingnuts. The only people who pay any attention to her b.s. are people seeking validation for their own creepiness.
If she had a real audience, I would be concerned.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:43 pmI am a “ConcernedParent†as well. Don’t you see the argument, at least, that Jesus would not want the GOVERNMENT teaching anything about sex? He would leave that up to the parents and church.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:44 pmComment by Rory — October 8, 2007 @ 5:43 pm
And we know how _that_ has worked out throughout the centuries.
I am a “ConcernedParent†as well. Don’t you see the argument, at least, that Jesus would not want the GOVERNMENT teaching anything about sex? He would leave that up to the parents and church.
Comment by Rory — October 8, 2007 @ 5:43 pm
This is something I rarely, if ever, have typed, but
WTF!
October 8th, 2007 at 5:44 pmGOP is a bunch of pathetic losers.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:46 pmIf Bush was a Christian in the true sense of the word (not merely a political ploy) he would’ve been disappointed that MORE money wasn’t proposed to put into children’s health.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:49 pmWell, he does have a history…
On his TV show, early in the Clinton administration, Limbaugh put up a picture of Socks, the White House cat, and asked, “Did you know there’s a White House dog?” Then he put up a picture of Chelsea Clinton, who was 13 years old at the time and as far as I know had never done any harm to anyone.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:50 pmWow. I just read some of the comments at Powerline about this. The sickness, ignorance, and stupidity is breathtaking.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:52 pmWhy would we expect these despicable Bush lackeys to have any shame? Bush and his enablers have left a path of destruction through our political, economic, social, and health care systems. With little else to hide behind, they trash a family that already has a mountain of problems. They have no shame
If you want to see the impact of Bush’s War on our soldiers and their families, see “The Valley of Elan.” A power indictment of Bush’s War, set in the USA. Don’t miss it.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:52 pm“Jesus would not want the federal GOVERNMENT providing health care insurance either.”
Comment by Rory
If one can read between the lines of the stories about Jesus, it is apparent that he chose to empower people to be responsible for their own health and healing first, and then from that place of strength help others to heal.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:53 pmModern medicine preaches a dependence on the doctor to heal, as well as instilling a focus on illnesses, as opposed to focusing on health.
Modern medicine also preaches cures via drugs.
Drugs, hypochondria, and managed health care are all good for the bottom line, and bad for human health and well being.
Jesus was in favor of helping the sick, no matter where that help comes from.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:53 pm40…Rory is correct. I remember a quote from the Bible, I think it’s Isaac 4:1, where Jesus says, “The US government shall not help sick or injured children. God’s children are better off suffering and dying than receiving the care that they need. Oh, and by the way, Rory will quote me on 10/8/2007.”
October 8th, 2007 at 5:54 pmMalkin went up to visit with a tenant of his business property. They also drove past his home and remarked about the bumper sticker that said “1-20-09″.
Comment by Mr. Ed
So, is there a point in there somewhere?
October 8th, 2007 at 5:54 pmWhy do you think Jesus would be in favor of GOVERNMENT-run healthcare insurance?
Comment by Rory — October 8, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
I don’t what Jesus would think of it, Rory, but I can tell you a very good reason YOU should support single-payer health insurance: it has been proven in the rest of the developed world to deliver quantifiably better healthcare at little more than half the cost we pay here, according to a large body of peer-reviewed public health research.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:55 pmWrong thread. Jesus would not want the federal GOVERNMENT providing health care insurance either.
Comment by Rory — October 8, 2007 @ 5:43 pm
Of course he would. Jesus wasn’t a right-wing hater, he was a left-wing lover of all mankind, and would be the first to insist on universal healthcare for all, and especially children. And He wouldn’t care who provided it.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:55 pmPS, when did you get religion “Rory”, yesterday?
October 8th, 2007 at 5:55 pmTo paraphrase Rush Limbaugh:
Malkin is a phony American.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:55 pmYeah, then on the sidebar 99% of the liblogs you will see an image of Rush with a quotation saying ‘The Phony 12 year olds.’
I can see it now!
Comment by Princeps
If he says it, you will see it on the blogs. Just like you saw the video of Rush’s spastic movements making fun of Michael J. Fox. Yea, Rush’s a peach.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:56 pmif they were as rich as the right wing smear merchants say they are, they’d be repupbicans.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:57 pmFunding this program is the right thing to do for our COUNTRY. Partisan politics shouldn’t even play a part in this issue. This funding passed with wide BIPARTISAN support for a reason.
Yes, I would like our resident Right Wing Loons to tell us why 2/3 of the Republicans support this program if it is not the right thing to do.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:58 pmSame question to Lefty Patriot.
PS Nevar, I’ve always been religious.
Comment by Rory — October 8, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
Which question? Not the lunatic one about Satan, I hope? If Satan decided to help sick children, that sure would rock your little fantasy world, wouldn’t it? How stupid are you, anyway?
October 8th, 2007 at 5:58 pmPS Nevar, I’ve always been religious.
Comment by Rory
Insanity
October 8th, 2007 at 5:58 pmdef:
Doing the same thing over and over again; expecting different results.
Jesus advocates Salvation through the True Laws of God. He did not want us to put too much faith in the laws of men.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 5:58 pm
Bullshit.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:59 pmJesus advocates Salvation through the True Laws of God. He did not want us to put too much faith in the laws of men.
Comment by Princeps
Oh shit, here we go again. Daryll has come back as the Princess. Ok, let’s cut him off now.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:59 pmJesus advocates Salvation through the True Laws of God. He did not want us to put too much faith in the laws of men.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 5:58 pm
Considering that Israel was under the thumb of Rome at the time, I can see why he was skeptical. Any attempt to portray Jesus as a libertarian is so ridiculous that it borders on cruel parody of wingnuts.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:00 pmBoy howdy, it’s a good thing this 12-year old boy wasn’t a 4-star general. Because then he’d be OFF LIMITS and ABOVE REPROACH. But he’s only a kid and, heck, if conservatives cared about kids, they wouldn’t be fighting the bill in the first place.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:00 pmPrincess sez:
Well, at least that throws the psychotic Romans:14 argument right out the window.
Thanks, Princess.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:01 pmWell the Lunatic Reichwing didn’t miss a beat. The insame brownshirts at Michelle Malkin and free republic are already posting them as
wait for it…………..
“Phony Poor Kids”
Despicable loathesome lot, one and all.
Jokes on them as them as the sheeple bleet on without the facts.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1908332/posts
October 8th, 2007 at 6:02 pmNot unexpected from the right. The Dems should have given these folks a safe house, for a month or two, until the wingtards find a new target.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:02 pmRory, take the hint and leave. Thank you.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:02 pmjesus was a liberal. they taught us that in school.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:04 pmI’m kind of surprised Malkin, and the rest of the pathetic, shameless republicans haven’t claimed the 12y.o. child was helping the terrorists, wanted to kill babies in the womb, is helping to bring illegal imigrants into the country, and that he is trying to destroy America. What is wrong with these “people?” Could it be any clearer that they are less than human? I think not!
October 8th, 2007 at 6:05 pmFor the record, Lefty Patriot claimed that Jesus would want the federal GOVERNMENT providing health care insurance:
“Of course he would. Jesus wasn’t a right-wing hater, he was a left-wing lover of all mankind, and would be the first to insist on universal healthcare for all, and especially children. And He wouldn’t care who provided it.â€
Comment by Rory — October 8, 2007 @ 6:02 pm
Yes, he would, that’s who he was. A liberal, and lover of children (and not in the Mark Foley sense), onje who knew that sharing the wealth was the good and right thing to do. The opposite of a rightwing moron republican liar. So, yes, rory, I’m on the record as standing up for the love of Jesus. You seem to be favoring Satan.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:06 pmYes or not: would Jesus support that or not?
Comment by Rory — October 8, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
Who gives a f**k, Rory? Jesus said “give unto Caesar what is Caesar’s; give unto God what is God’s.” Do you think Jesus would DISAPPROVE of Caesar then using the money to help poor, sick people in distress?
Duh.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:07 pmEwww… I feel dirty just having gone to MM’s page. Won’t ever do that again. That woman is pure evil.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:07 pmYou might not want to weigh in on this one… considering that clearly you know absolutely nothing about one of the main tenets of Christianity.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:03 pm
So fill me in, rather than doing the coward hit-and-run you think you can get away with. Show me where Jesus would have the federal government veto a bill to help poor children.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:08 pmBut now that TP has exposed the truth, we can expect Bill O’ and Rush to foam at the mouth about the Nazis over here.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:09 pmSo tell us Princess and Rory, if the SCHIP bill was so bad, then why did 2/3 of the Republicans support it?
Anyone want to bet that neither have an answer?
October 8th, 2007 at 6:09 pm#85 applies to you, too, Princess Mermaid.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:09 pmJesus would clearly have been a Friedman Free Market Capitalist and would have orchastrated the very same smear campaign against this child and his family in order to protect the god-blessed profit margins for the insurance companies!
You’re right Princess! I can see that now. How could I have been so blind?
October 8th, 2007 at 6:11 pmComment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:03 pm
Says the twit aka Mr. P who half the time doesn’t know what he is talking about, and the other half he usually describes a barely recognisable reality. Like in this case.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:11 pm“The Princess and Mr. P?” no? Really? well gaaaaaaaaaaaaw-leeee!
October 8th, 2007 at 6:13 pmActually Jesus would insist that disciples of his should heal the sick in the same way he did: “take up thy bed and walk.” It would kind of make government health insurance irrelevant, no?
October 8th, 2007 at 6:14 pm(cf. Matthew 10:8)
On the other hand, Moses, seeing Michelle Malkin bearing false witness against her neighbor, would probably cause the ground to open up beneath her and swallow her up.
If experience is any guide, that is.
(WWMK–Who Would Moses Kill?)
By the way, Mr. P, I seem to recall you talking about your enrollment in your local community college.
Why is it ok for you to leach off the government (as you would probably describe it), but it is not ok for a 12yo to get federally funded health care when his family cannot afford to pay for it?
I won’t hold my breath waiting for your answer….
October 8th, 2007 at 6:14 pmMr. Pee has used the word “princeps” often enough in the past for it to be a clear marker.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:14 pmlooks like they’ve all run away, and without any answers.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:16 pmOh, and that would be “leech off”….
October 8th, 2007 at 6:17 pmYou can find this in the section called “The New Testament†in a little Book called “The Holy Bible.â€
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
More bullshit. is that all you have is bullshit?
October 8th, 2007 at 6:17 pmSo, if SATAN wants to help the sick, no problem?
Comment by Rory — October 8, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
Too late. GWB already vetoed the bill so clearly that’s not about to happen.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:17 pmIf the money the government spent on the Frosts was for an education voucher rather than healthcare, the wingnuts would be screeching a far different tune.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:17 pmAnswer my question in #85, Princess Mermaid.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:17 pmGood to see the GOP Christian Family Values at work. Yes this is how the Christian Values acts toward those who are sinners and want US money. No we haven’t heard a word for Pastor Hagee but he’s all over the place about bombing Iran. Bush is to drunk to know what’s going on. The money for Health Care for Children can be better used for propaganda and pay offs. Now we see how the media will show how the US will bring a sick Iraq child to the USA to be treated. As for American Children they can just get sick and die or let another Country like Canada or Cuba help the Middle Class, poor and all the American Children with Health Care. I just love Boner face when he poses with children for Republican bills then cries when Americans find out he lied.
Pastor Hagee who is currently on a mission with Jewish Leaders to wipe out Oral Roberts Church and bring them over to the Dark Side so more Evangelist will help convince the American people to illegally bomb Iran and start WW3, Children’s Health Care isn’t important. Now we know the Evangelist Church and the Bush Administration are clearing out the US Treasury right under the American people’s face.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:17 pmI’m not real conversant on religious teachings, but I don’t recall Jesus first doing means testing before healing the sick or feeding the masses.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:18 pmThat idiotic b**ch Malkin suggests that:
“If you don’t want questions, don’t foist these children onto the public stage.”
As if it hasn’t occured to her that… The program is called SCHIP and it’s about Children’s Health Care!!
October 8th, 2007 at 6:19 pmSo, if SATAN wants to help the sick, no problem?
Comment by Rory — October 8, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
Well, Rory, I guess that depends on whether Satan wants to charge the sick the cost of their souls. That certainly seems to be the capitalist way.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:19 pm’m not real conversant on religious teachings, but I don’t recall Jesus first doing means testing before healing the sick or feeding the masses.
Comment by Candyce — October 8, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
Guess what? neither does princess. nor can she find the passage where Jesus says the laws of men shouldn’t be followed.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:20 pmComment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
Well, as long as this thread has devolved Bible quoting:
I believe those passages are in your magic book too, Princess.
You’re welcome.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:20 pmit is to find where Jesus says that one should not put too much faith in the laws of men and that one should seek salvation in the True Laws of God.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
And this is irrelevant, Mr. P, because we are not discussing salvation of the soul but healing of the body.
As I said, half the time you simply don’t know what the people around you are talking about…
October 8th, 2007 at 6:21 pmPost that on Milkins site, Trip!
good find.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:23 pmEven your fellow lefties know that Jesus put God’s Laws above the laws of man!
Now you’re being absurd.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
I see no evidence of your absurd claims. Not only that, S-CHIP follows the law of god, according to TM’s bible quotes above. So, once again, you lose. Bush is the Satan-enabler here, not the left. Bush would starve children to death, and deny them medicine and aid, not the left. Bush would spend money to kill entire families and poison entire countries, not the left. You lose.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:23 pmThe Soul is more important than the body.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
And that is still not what the thread -or SCHIP- is about.
Better luck next time…
October 8th, 2007 at 6:24 pmEnough with “What would Jesus do?” about children’s health insurance. The man died 2000 years ago, but these children are alive today. If we want to keep them healthy, and alive tomorrow, we need to make sure they get proper health care! As a smoker with no children, I am more than happy to pay an extra $.61 a pack tax so that the children of others will get the medical attention they need, and deserve!
October 8th, 2007 at 6:25 pmJesus advocates Salvation through the True Laws of God. He did not want us to put too much faith in the laws of men.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 5:58 pm
Just so we know where you’re coming from, please tell us which Jesus advocated that, the one who suposedly said, “He who is not my friend is my enemy,” or the one who supposedly said, “He who is not my enemy is my friend.”? Just trying to get some context here.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:25 pmEven your fellow lefties know that Jesus put God’s Laws above the laws of man!
Now you’re being absurd.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
One of God’s Laws is to succor the sick and aid the helpless. Neither the Old Testament or Jesus hedged this one with any rules about “just don’t raise taxes in order to do it.” It’s a very straight-forward command.
The Romans supplied a grain subsidy to the proletariat; if Jesus was such a libertarian, he had ample opportunity to fit that in to his lectures. “Feed the sick and the poor, but don’t let this interfere with your God-given right to own three chariots.”
October 8th, 2007 at 6:25 pmI’m sorry, little rory, I don’t see any evidence of the superstition called Satan, except in the actions of Bush, which are Satanic by definition. So, if I must answer your irrelevant and insane question, then, yes, i would rather that Satan saved the children than starved them, but Satan being represented by Bush, i guess the kids will die. That should make you happy.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:26 pmSo tell us Princess and Rory, if the SCHIP bill was so bad, then why did 2/3 of the Republicans support it?
Anyone want to bet that neither have an answer?
Still no answer. What’s the matter Princess (Mr. Pee) and Rory (aka Jake), cat’s got your tongue. Or don’t you have an answer?
October 8th, 2007 at 6:26 pmThe Soul is more important than the body.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
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That may be the case, but as this is a thread discussing a corporal work of mercy (cwhutididthar), the soul’s importance isn’t relevant.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:27 pmThe Soul is more important than the body.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
I think you disprove that theory, by showing us that to you, neither is important.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:29 pmI haven’t run away, and I answered every one of your questions.
Comment by Rory — October 8, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
You haven’t answered mine.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:29 pmPrincess sez:
Since it’s my comment that Princess Pony has linked to, in the deluded belief that it somehow his point, I’d like to cut in.
Which Kingdom is more important, Princess Pony? Which one should the children of God strive for?
Once you answer that one, then answer why Chimpy (the guy that God allegedly talks to) obviously isn’t trying too hard?
October 8th, 2007 at 6:29 pmThe question, Lefty Patriot, was whether the “superstition†called JESUS would support it, not whether YOU would. I already know you would.
Comment by Rory — October 8, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
Of course he would. He’s wasn’t a right-wing ideologue, as I’ve already pointed out.
another fake Christian bites the dust.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:30 pm“The Soul is more important than the body.”
and the profit margin is more important than the Soul! right?
This has nothing to do with the Religious right. These bast*rds are simply attacking the family and this child to help prop up the administrations VETO on the grounds that it would cost the insurance industry profit margins!
That’s the real sin of this administration, and any true christian would be sickened by this glorification of one of the 7 Deadly sins.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:30 pmMatt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:30 pm*Errata*
“somehow his point” above should be “somehow proves his point”.
Thank you.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:30 pmbillobaggins:
Perhaps they are not real Christians?
Comment by Rory — October 8, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
The evidence shows that they may well be real christians, and you certainly are a fake christian.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:31 pm“Rory” sez:
Classic Shakey Jake excuse-making. Pathetic.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:31 pmI need to start believing in Hell so these right- wing demons will have a place to gather once they all finish wasting decent people’s oxygen.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:32 pmAll this crap about Jesus and God - is pointless. Neither of them is going to step up and either prove they exist or defend anyone’s point here.
Common decency and humanity is what we’re talking about here - and George Bush’s LACK THEREOF.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:32 pmAs soon as Lefty Patriot answers mine, VerbalKint : )
Comment by Rory — October 8, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
your turn.
Jesus taught that the Kingdom of God is more important than the kingdoms of men.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
No he didn’t.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:33 pmComment by Rory — October 8, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
You really are in peak form today, Mr. P.
Very seldom have I seen you spout so many non sequiturs per minute before.
What does Lefty Patriot have to do with your exchange with Verbalkint?
And how the soul remotely relevant in a discussion about healing the human body?
October 8th, 2007 at 6:33 pm“Rory” sez:
Hi Jake.
(And BTW, I already told you, there’s no need to put my name in quotes. Of the two of us, I’m not the one attempting to escape my past. ^_^ )
October 8th, 2007 at 6:33 pmJesus Christ, I read the end of the Free Republic thread. It’s disgusting. Truly sick.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:34 pmPerhaps they are not real Christians?
Comment by Rory
So you are saying that “real Christians” would vote to keep children from having the health care they need? Thanks so much for clearing that up. If that’s the case, then I am very glad I am an atheist.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:34 pmPrincess Pony sez:
October 8th, 2007 at 6:35 pmgood point, LA. Bush is evil, and has vetoed a bill for purely profit motive, with no regard to what the country wants or what the children need. The only people defending this veto are lost souls, and antiAmerican scum.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:35 pmThat’s not your call to make.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
sez who? Satan?
Bwahahahahaha!
October 8th, 2007 at 6:36 pmWho cares what your fake messiah taught? I’m here to say that your fake President has vetoed the health-care of children to prop-up insurance stock options. He is a disgusting human being. and now that the stories of some of these children are coming out, the subserviant water carriers are lashing out against the family of this child. Pathetic how low these people will bow and scrape for a small little piece of that profit pie.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:37 pmAgain, why are we arguing religion when this is about what the government has done? We do not live in a “christian nation” and I am not a christian. I am an American. This boy and his family are Americans. Let’s try and keep the dam n thread on topic. If you are arguing the religious aspect, they (the right) have already won half of the argument. The half that says religion should in any way be used in governmental decisions.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:37 pmJust looking down the thread that is not the problem Rory. The problem is that they think they are the only real ones. Thus anything you say whether relevant and logical in light of the situation and the scripture is beside the point. Only they can be right. Politics informs religion in their world, not the other way around.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:37 pmOnly time I read Free Republic or Michelle Malkin, is when I need a good laxative.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:37 pmI’m waiting for an answer, Princess…
October 8th, 2007 at 6:39 pmWell, I see another thread has been successfully hijacked. So, back to the topic at hand - wingers attacking 12-year-old children and their families.
Looks like our old buddy Rush is in on the act, too.
“They send the kid out to lie. They filled this kid’s head with lies just as they have some of these soldiers about me. Put lies in the kid’s head or put it on the script that he’s reading. He goes out and reads it. He’s 12 years old! They will use anybody! They’ll corrupt anybody, to get where they’re headed. That’s who they are, folks.”
And he repeats the same distortions about this family that the rest of them do.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:39 pmPathetic how low these people will bow and scrape for a small little piece of that profit pie.
Comment by willyloman — October 8, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
it’s good, though, because now 3/4s of America is recoiling in horror from the immoral and caustic hate pouring out of the maws of the Malkins and Limbaughs, not to mention the disdain Bush has openly shown for American children, voters and representatives. This is another nail in hte coffin of the GOP, and as they continue to defend the indefensible, we can keep on calling them on their greed and cowardice, and they have no place to run.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:40 pmHe is just redirecting the thread to escape arguing the ethics of attacking these children to save the profits of the insurance companies, Bluedahlia.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:40 pmgood point, LA. Bush is evil, and has vetoed a bill for purely profit motive, with no regard to what the country wants or what the children need. The only people defending this veto are lost souls, and antiAmerican scum.
Comment by Lefty Patriot
Bush and his minions need that money to feed into the pockets of their corporate rich friends. We can’t be wasting the taxpayers money on frivolous things like health care for children. I so wish that we had a system where we, the taxpayers, have the ability to choose where our money goes. I have to say, though, that I was quite encouraged to see that 2/3 of the Republicans wanted this bill too. Perhaps they are on their way to see the light. And, there’s a good chance that they will vote to override Bush’s veto. So, let’s keep up the good thoughts.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:40 pmWow. I’d take credit for predicting Rush’s attack on that little kid…but it was too easy.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:42 pmStill waiting, Princess…
October 8th, 2007 at 6:43 pmSeems everyone has forgotten this is all about a 12-year boy, someone Jesus would have helped without question, no matter who he was, what he had done or what is believes may have been. Time to remove those rose-colored political glasses that everyone seems to wear today, and see this as a human being in need. Then the question is very simple indeed!
October 8th, 2007 at 6:43 pmThis is about CHILDREN, and HEALTHCARE people(and non-people), and not about religion! Besides, I hope all you religious fanatics have plenty of mental health coverage, as YOU NEED IT!
October 8th, 2007 at 6:43 pmI suggest you read The New Testament.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
I suggest that you’ve never even glanced at it. Somebody should read it to you, and explain it. You don’t know what it says, or means. I studied it thoroughly enough to know that it is no more reliable than the old testament, and irrelevant to the discussion of Bush’s evil and immorality, which come from a massive character flaw and a poor upbringiing by lousy parents. The fact remains, contrary to your unproveable fairy-tales, that Bush has done a despicable thing, and only a small percentage of empty-headed jackasses like you will try to defend him.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:44 pmHow dare those Democrats for personalizing this travesty of justice?? The balls!
Now let’s put some faces on those coffins being flown back from Iraq so the people can personalize this horrendous, amoral war. You know - those coffins which Bush has never met; those same coffins that Bush doesn’t want publicized as they return….yeah, those coffins of our loved ones who died for Bush’s Oil.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:46 pmPrincess sez:
Bullsh!t.
The quotes speak for themselves:
Answer the question. Why would Chimpy, an allegedly devout born-again Christian that hears the voice of God, dare to flout God’s law by denying health insurance to poor children?
ANSWER THE QUESTION, COWARD.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:46 pmLefty: I’m sure the “mark of the beast” can be found somewhere on GWB. He’s the anti-christ in full flagrantia - in every respect.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:47 pmI may have missed it in the confusion, but did any of our resident trolls address the actual point of the thread? Do they have anything to say about the manner in which right wing bloggers have attempted to smear a 12 year old kid and his family for purely ideological purposes?
I admit, I allowed myself to get sidetracked by the “Jesus was a libertarian” horse puckey. I apologize.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:47 pmTripMaster: He can’t answer because he’s a moron. Bush has broken every spiritual law in the book and then some. This last straw “screwing our children” out of health care will tank the GOP once and for all.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:48 pmI have news for you. Anyone who thinks they hear “The voice of God” is in serious need of mental healthcare, and that includes Bush!
October 8th, 2007 at 6:48 pmJesus taught that the Kingdom of God is more important than the kingdoms of men.
Comment by Princeps
Is there an echo in here?
October 8th, 2007 at 6:51 pmI don’t think so Gummitch. They can’t say much since their reichwing hatemongers have tried to now discredit a 12 year old. It looks like nothing is “off limits” to these pigs, is it? Going after an innocent 12 year old - they should be ashamed of themselves. Obviously, it’s a case of “desperate men taking desperate measures” when they have to attempt to degrade a 12 year old who wouldn’t be here were it not for SCHIP. These remaining Repukes are the scum of the earth.
They’ve clearly gone after our children with the pedophile ring in the GOP; now they’re attacking the credibility of our children. Sadly, this group of deranged and brainwashed dolts really don’t deserve to even be acknowledged.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:51 pmPlease, all these Jesus/Bush loving trolls just can’t help themselves, they know not what they do. They are graduates of these ‘phoney’ bible colleges that churn them out like so much meat. Then off to the White House to take a ‘loyalty oath’ to the president, and then onto the computers to put the fear of God into all of us and change our minds about what is as plain as the nose on your face. Silly, silly little interns. Then, they get a paycheck for it. You know, paid by the same taxes as the 12 year old’s family and all the rest of us. These trolls are so learned that dear little Rory said on another thread:
‘Yes, if it is a just war (Iraq) then I think a million dead Iraqi’s and killed and wounded American soldiers are worth it and it is much worse that Bill Clinton got a blow job in the White House’! (I am paraphrasing here).
Is this the kind of hateful trash that they teach in bible school? This is the same kind of hatred they teach in the madrasses of the middle east. This is the mind-set of a ‘terrorist’! All this God-talk is kind of pathetic, really. Shouldn’t your spiritual life be kind of private and personal? Oh NO! Got to try to trash talk everyone into believing just like you, right? Go out and get a real job. It will make you like yourself better.
Jesus Christ was a liberal. His teachings were about love. His coming was about teaching love to all who followed him. Where in hell did you go so wrong? All I see coming from the right wing wurlitzer is HATE! It’s shameful and disgusting, and all to prop up some whiny, small-minded cruel little Napoleon too dim-witted to understand the idea of REAL CHRISTIANITY!
October 8th, 2007 at 6:52 pm#176 “hearing voices” is a psychiatric illness either dx’d as Schizophrenia or Bipolar Disorder with Psychoses. I’m putting my bets on the latter as the diagnosis for the Chimp.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:52 pmGod’s Laws have nothing to do with health insurance.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
Neither does the human soul, my sorely deluded fiend.
So, why is it ok for you to benefit from social spending (in the way of community college education) but not for a 12yo in need of medical services?
October 8th, 2007 at 6:52 pmPrinceps sez:
Read this carefully, moron:
I didn’t write that, Princess. That’s directly from your magic book. Are you going to dispute it?
October 8th, 2007 at 6:53 pm#180 Yes, Jesus was a rebel against the corrupt culture of the time. He preached a love message and is probably wretching when he sees what Bush and his group of psychopaths have done to this country - all in the name of religion. ewwwww…..
October 8th, 2007 at 6:54 pmNo, gummitch. It’s just a different version swift boating for them. Scoring points on the misfortunes of others by lying about them if they don’t toe the line.
Michael J. Fox - phony
Injuried vets - phony
12-yr-old kid hospitalized for 6 months - phony
I’m still looking for an expose from Malkin, et al on those snowflake babies that peppered the stage with W when he vetoed stem cell research. Hey, when you allow yourself to be used, you’re fair game.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:54 pmAnd, another thing, you trolls need to take a couple of courses in logic. According to ‘thinking people’, you have none.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:55 pmOL!
God’s Laws have nothing to do with health insurance.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
Wrong again! You are really severely lacking in bible knowledge.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:56 pmThe Chimp knows absolutely nothing about spirituality and very little about religion per se, that’s clear from his actions. He and KKKKarl just figured out a way to totally screw the religious right by pretending to share their beliefs - what beliefs? Certainly they had no idea at all.
What I find almost unbelievable is how easily these radical christofascists were led by the ring in their noses right into Bush’s trap. He made total fools out of the entire sorry lot and they just stood back, mouths agape, and are still reeling from the screwjob.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:56 pmI didn’t write that, Princess. That’s directly from your magic book. Are you going to dispute it?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — October 8, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
Bet he ignores you, because he can’t answer.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:56 pmRory, and the rest of the trolls have ignored the topic of this ThinkProgress thread. It is NOT Rory’s (or any other troll’s) thread.
Do you support Malkin’s attack (and the attack by all the others who call themselves “conservative”) on this twelve year-old and his family or not?
It’s an EASY question, and your answer will reveal your heart, better than your claims to know what is in God’s heart.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:57 pmThe 12yo received and is receiving needed medical services. I never said that he shouldn’t.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:55 pm
Nor did you call out the brazen cowards who are now stalking his family. Your cowardice is very convenient.
October 8th, 2007 at 6:57 pmPrincess sez:
Perhaps you should clarify your position then, Princess.
Do God’s laws have anything to do with the human soul?
Yes or no?
October 8th, 2007 at 6:57 pmWHY DOES THIS FREAK FROST GET TO BE A USELESS LAYABOUT WHO IGNORES THE NEEDS OF HIS FAMILY, THEN TROTS OUT HIS KID TO TRY TO SCREW OVER EVERYONE ELSE WHO DOESN’T HAVE THE LUXURY EXCEPT TO TAKE A WRETCHED JOB JUST TO GET HEALTH CARE BENEFITS SO MY FAMILY DOESN’T HAVE TO GO THROUGH WHAT THIS SURRILOUS PIG DID. HOW DARE HE DEMAND THAT HE HAS FIRST DIBS ON MY PITIFUL PAYCHECK WHEN HE IS SENDING HIS USELESS PIGLETS TO A $20,000 PER YEAR PRIVATE SCHOOL. WHO IN THE HELL PAYS 20,000 PER KID PER YEAR FOR FRICKIN’ SCHOOL? IF YOU MORONS WANT TO TURN OVER YOUR HARD EARNED CASH TO THIS HOG, GO FOR IT. BUT LEAVE ME AND MY FAMILY OUT OF THIS PONZI SCHEME.
October 8th, 2007 at 7:00 pmMy letter to my Representative, Rodney Frelinghuysen. Given his record of following the Bush lead, I expect no changes:
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I realize that for some reason you followed the President’s lead and voted NO on the recent bill regarding SCHIP. That vote is just another indicium of your inability to see that the current occupant of the White House is an incompetent moron bent solely on benefitting the wealthy, not ordinary Americans. But, reasonable minds may disagree.
Surely, however, one educated to Hobart’s high standards will condemn the lies being spread about Graeme Frost, an SCHIP benefitiary. Some people who are allied to the President have suggested that the Frost family’s situation shows that they were taking unfair advantage of the SCHIP program, yet a cursory examination of the facts of the Frost family’s situation shows that they are the type of family for which this program is designed.
I await your public condemnation of the lies spread by the President’s allies…and therefore your allies…about this case. I would not want to think that my representative, a man whose hand I have shaken and whose college inculcates values of intellectual honesty, would countenance such behavior.
Reasonable minds may, of course, disagree. Lies, however, are never reasonable.
I’m sure you agree, and will make your agreement public.
Perhaps even you will reconsider your vote, considering the tactic your allies are stooping to.
William Cooper
October 8th, 2007 at 7:00 pmI never said that it did.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:55 pm
Yet, you kept bringing it up and even insisted that it was more important than the body.
Is your attention span that short?
The 12yo received and is receiving needed medical services. I never said that he shouldn’t.
Yet you opened fire by saying CHIP shouldn’t be “fixed”, and are perfectly ok with Malkin’s smear of the boy and his family.
What side of the argument are on? Do you actually have a point -other than be annoying, and serve as a rhetorical punching bag that it?
October 8th, 2007 at 7:02 pmSome claim to be “faithful” and believe the Kingdom of God may rest with Supreme Courts and Presidents and their rulings will thwart the “un-godly”. They’ll say, “Faith Shall Rule”.
Some claim to be “objective reasonous” and believe the Kingdom of Reason rests with Supreme Courts and Presidents and they’ll thwart the “lunatics”. They’ll say,” Reason Shall Rule.”
Both will announce their claims to rule our world at their Conventions.
When both prepare their announcement they will sit in quiet desperation and “hope”.
October 8th, 2007 at 7:02 pmWhat gives us Hope, anyway?
Capitalism is their religion and Friedman is their only God!
here, read this http://willyloman.wordpress.com/ 2007/ 10/ 05/ the-miracle-of-america/
and please don’t let Cory and the Princess redirect this and every other thread on this site with this religious obfuscation. Ignore these people, they are no more christians than I am. they worship at the house of Wall Street, they have said as much.
these right wing talking heads are doing what we would expect…they are attacking the children so the administration doesn’t have to.
They are sicken.
October 8th, 2007 at 7:04 pmPrincess sez:
You’re remarkably obtuse, Princess. I don’t know whether that quality is natural or acquired, but it doesn’t really matter, either way.
I’ll spell it all out for you, so even you won’t be abole to claim you don’t understand.
Chimpy vetoed the SCHIP bill, which provides health care to poor children.
As a direct result of that, poor children will now suffer more greatly…some will die.
It was within Chimpy’s power to mitigate this suffering…to lessen it in some, and eliminate it in others. It was within his power to save the lives of some of these children.
Instead, Chimpy chose the veto, dooming them to suffering and death.
Let’s review those Bible passages:
Chimpy is clearly acting against the will of God in this instance.
What say you?
October 8th, 2007 at 7:06 pmThose statements are not mutually exclusive.
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
Actually they are. They’re opposite sides of the same window. My question to you is which Jesus did you quote, the one who views everyone as his friend unless he’s a sworn enemy, or the one who views everyone as his enemy unless he’s a sworn friend?
October 8th, 2007 at 7:07 pmThe sad commentary on this issue is this - Dems have wheeled victims before the camera so often to push their agenda, that people aren’t responding anymore, even when they should.
As Charles Krautheimer said: “When socialist nations want to nationalize an industry, they wake up in the morning, and do it. When a socialist in a democratic nation wants to nationalize an industry, they say, “Oh, but for the children.”.”
October 8th, 2007 at 7:08 pmPrinceps:
Do you support Malkin’s attack (and the attack by all the others who call themselves “conservativeâ€) on this twelve year-old and his family or not?
October 8th, 2007 at 7:11 pmComment by lookatthebigbrainonme — October 8, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
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October 8th, 2007 at 7:12 pmWow.
Perhaps you should read the comments that I was referring to
Comment by Princeps — October 8, 2007 @ 7:04 pm
Perhaps you should read the comment I was referring to (which was your comment, by the way).
Are you getting Alzheimer’s already?
October 8th, 2007 at 7:12 pmI’M NOT A BIBLE SCHOLAR, BUT THERE MUST BE SOMETHING IN IT THAT SAYS YOU SHOULD NOT BE A LAZY PIECE OF CRAP WHO IGNORES YOUR OWN CHILDREN’S NEEDS. GET A FREEKIN’ JOB WITH BENEFITS LIKE MOST EVERYONE ELSE WITH A WIFE AND KIDS AND STOP WITH THE GUILT TRIP OF YOUR POOR KIDS WITH NO HEALTH CARE. QUIT WITH THE “UNCLE SUCKER NEEDS TO PICK UP THE TAB” ROUTINE. YOU THINK THE CIA LISTENING IN ON YOUR CELL PHONE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE BEST AIRPORTS TO TAP DANCE IN THE MEN’S ROOM IS AN AFFRONT TO YOUR LIBERTY. TAKING MY WAGES AND TURNING THEM OVER TO A MIDDLE CLASS, IRRESPONSIBLE PIG WHO IS VOID OF ALL CONCERN FOR HIS FAMILY’S WELFARE IS AN AFFRONT TO ME AND EVERY OTHER RESPONSIBLE PARENTS’ LIBERTY.
October 8th, 2007 at 7:13 pmPrincess sez:
This previous quote would seem to contradict that assertion:
Princess sez:
Gregor Samsa sez:
Princess sez:
…so, you claim that you’ve been saying “t