ACLU demands records of Iraqis killed at checkpoints.
By on Oct 9th, 2007 at 2:08 pm
ACLU demands records of Iraqis killed at checkpoints.
The ACLU had filed suit seeking copies of military reports on the “many hundreds of Iraqi civilians [who] have been killed or injured by US forces for getting too close to checkpoints or convoys.” Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) has also “renewed calls for the Pentagon to create a declassified database of all civilian deaths” in Iraq.
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Does it count as a civilian death if they’re shot in the back of the head or or only in front?
October 9th, 2007 at 2:12 pmHeh. Good luck with that.
October 9th, 2007 at 2:16 pmPentagon: But.. but…these records are State Secrets!
October 9th, 2007 at 2:16 pmSupreme Court: We concur!–well, five of us concur, that is.
Pentagon:
October 9th, 2007 at 2:18 pm“Well, it all depends on what the definition of a check point is….”
we never actually killed anyone at a checkpoint…. now, within 50 yards as they run screaming in terror, okay maybe a few…
October 9th, 2007 at 2:24 pm#4-
Nice!
Remember… if you’re shot in the back, it’s murder, if you’re shot in front it sectarian violence. And car bombs don’t count, that’s just too indiscriminate with the rate that car just tend to blow up.
So I suppose, if it has a shack of some sort, and a orange and white striped wooden arm that comes down, then it’s a check point. If it’s a bunch of black water dudes standing around, then it’s just a street corner.
October 9th, 2007 at 2:26 pmI don’t understand, why would the Pentagon feel that these incidents should be “classified”? What is it about these checkpoint killings that relates to national security? It is illegal to classify something just to keep it out of the public domain, so unless there is a genuine national security interest to protect (and the president’s reputation is not a “national security interest”), it appears that someone is trying to keep the public from learning the truth.
October 9th, 2007 at 2:31 pmSo why are civilian deaths in Iraq classified. If we were to know about them, would that be giving classified information to the “terrorists”. I am getting really angry with the Democrats for letting him get away with classifying anything he knows will end up in exposing his lies and the illegal things he does.
October 9th, 2007 at 2:36 pmPentagon: But.. but…these records are State Secrets!
Supreme Court: We concur!–well, five of us concur, that is.
Comment by Menehune
Right Wing Activist judges writing new laws. Where in the constitution does it say that the President can make classified anything he finds embarrassing or potentially exposing his lies and crimes?
October 9th, 2007 at 2:38 pmIsn’t this beyond the scope of the American Civil Liberties Union?
Don’t get me wrong, we should have an accounting, but the ACLU seems the wrong org to be pursuing this.
October 9th, 2007 at 2:43 pmSpeaking of mercenaries shooting Iraqi civilians.
According to the story on NPR this morning, the shooting occurred because traffic was not moving out of the way of the escort quickly enough.
Creeeeeeepy. It’s like something out of Imperial China.
October 9th, 2007 at 2:45 pmAccording to the story on NPR this morning, the shooting occurred because traffic was not moving out of the way of the escort quickly enough.
Comment by gummitch — October 9, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
And if traffic isn’t moving out of the way quickly enough, how does shooting someone speed it up?
Prince testified that their soldiers (which is what they are) are trained to get their “package” (the person or persons being protected) away from the scene as quickly as possible. (”Get them off the ‘x’,” is how he put it, referring to the spot where an attempted assassination might be taking place, or might not.) They are not simply trained to shoot frst and ask quesitons later, they are trained to shoot first and get the hell out of there before anyone else starts asking questions.
October 9th, 2007 at 2:57 pm