Comments on: Casey: Army Needs ‘Three Or Four Years’ And ‘Substantial Resources’ To Recover From Iraq War http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:23:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: TRDaggett http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4115533 TRDaggett Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:33:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4115533 General Petraeus is supposedly an intelligent man. He evidently didn't learn anything from the recent history of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. Are we on a similar path? General Petraeus is supposedly an intelligent man. He evidently didn’t learn anything from the recent history of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. Are we on a similar path?

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4114049 Doc Rock Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:20:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4114049 Somewhere the sun is shining, somewhere children shout, but there is no joy in Mudville, Bush is kicking Casey out! Somewhere the sun is shining, somewhere children shout, but there is no joy in Mudville, Bush is kicking Casey out!

]]> By: Isaac http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4114032 Isaac Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:25:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4114032 Wow. 450 Billon Dollar$ a year and a Billion dollar$ per week in Iraq and we get a broken military! What a great deal! Department of Defense? What a joke. Who are we being defended against? The Bosnians? The Germans? The Koreans? The Japanese? The Iraqis? The Afghans? Meanwhile the Saudis own about 7% of our stock market and got us to get the hell out of their country over a dozens Saudis hit us on 9/11. Hundreds of Billion$ every year couldn't stop some guys with knives. Meanwhile the average age of the Coast Guard fleet is 35 years. That's the average. Some are more than 50 years old. Wow. 450 Billon Dollar$ a year and a Billion dollar$ per week in Iraq and we get a broken military!

What a great deal!

Department of Defense? What a joke. Who are we being defended against? The Bosnians? The Germans? The Koreans? The Japanese? The Iraqis? The Afghans? Meanwhile the Saudis own about 7% of our stock market and got us to get the hell out of their country over a dozens Saudis hit us on 9/11.

Hundreds of Billion$ every year couldn’t stop some guys with knives.

Meanwhile the average age of the Coast Guard fleet is 35 years. That’s the average. Some are more than 50 years old.

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4114030 The Republic of Stupidity Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:06:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4114030 I suppose he could have gotten that figure from the same place that Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly get theirs. Comment by JosephW — October 10, 2007 @ 2:47 am Out of his rear end??? I suppose he could have gotten that figure from the same place that Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly get theirs.

Comment by JosephW — October 10, 2007 @ 2:47 am

Out of his rear end???

]]> By: JosephW http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4114028 JosephW Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:47:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4114028 Petraeus: “[T]he average counter insurgency is somewhere around a nine or a 10 year endeavour,” he said in July. Okay, does ANYONE have any idea where he came up with THIS figure? How many "counter insurgencies" have there been to develop a "nine or ten year" figure? What exactly qualifies as a "counter insurgency"? Of course, I suppose he could have gotten that figure from the same place that Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly get theirs. Petraeus:
“[T]he average counter insurgency is somewhere around a nine or a 10 year endeavour,” he said in July.

Okay, does ANYONE have any idea where he came up with THIS figure? How many “counter insurgencies” have there been to develop a “nine or ten year” figure? What exactly qualifies as a “counter insurgency”?
Of course, I suppose he could have gotten that figure from the same place that Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly get theirs.

]]> By: pbg http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4113997 pbg Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:57:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4113997 And let's remember, we're not losing with 160,000 troops--we're losing with 320,000 troops, contractors/mercenaries included. And let’s remember, we’re not losing with 160,000 troops–we’re losing with 320,000 troops, contractors/mercenaries included.

]]> By: Beyonce Welch http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4113996 Beyonce Welch Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:56:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4113996 I feel a draft. I feel a draft.

]]> By: johnnyRocketpants http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4113991 johnnyRocketpants Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:43:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4113991 CALLER 2: <em>No, it's not, and what's really funny is, they never talk to real Army Chiefs of Staff. They like to pull these Army Chiefs of Staff that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.</em> LIMBAUGH: <em>The phony Army Chiefs of Staff.</em> CALLER 2: <em>The phony Army Chiefs of Staff. If you talk to a real Army Chiefs of Staff, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq.</em> CALLER 2: No, it’s not, and what’s really funny is, they never talk to real Army Chiefs of Staff. They like to pull these Army Chiefs of Staff that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.

LIMBAUGH: The phony Army Chiefs of Staff.

CALLER 2: The phony Army Chiefs of Staff. If you talk to a real Army Chiefs of Staff, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq.

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4113990 The Republic of Stupidity Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:40:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4113990 I can see why MR P and Daryll and Jake can only post to/on certain threads. Comment by Xisithrus — October 9, 2007 @ 11:27 pm Whilst this might be entertaining at first, ya better be careful. Ya might do some permanent organic damage to yer neurons or sum'pin. 'Member when ya wuz li'l and they'd tell ya not ta cross yer eyes on purpose 'cause they might get stuck like that...???? I can see why MR P and Daryll and Jake can only post to/on certain threads.

Comment by Xisithrus — October 9, 2007 @ 11:27 pm

Whilst this might be entertaining at first, ya better be careful. Ya might do some permanent organic damage to yer neurons or sum’pin.

‘Member when ya wuz li’l and they’d tell ya not ta cross yer eyes on purpose ’cause they might get stuck like that…????

]]> By: DallasNE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4113969 DallasNE Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:42:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4113969 Well, guess what. Gen. Petraeus may get his wish concerning a second front. According to Juan Cole one of the primary reasons the British are pulling out of Basra is because their troops in Afghanistan are getting shot up and they need to send in reinforcements. Soon, I suspect the American's will be facing the same problem in Afghanistan. http://www.juancole.com/ So, where does that leave us regarding Iran? Oh, we can bomb the hell out of them then set back and watch them fight one another. Now that is some plan. Are you buying in Gen. Petraeus? You have been a yes man down the line so far. Well, guess what. Gen. Petraeus may get his wish concerning a second front. According to Juan Cole one of the primary reasons the British are pulling out of Basra is because their troops in Afghanistan are getting shot up and they need to send in reinforcements.

Soon, I suspect the American’s will be facing the same problem in Afghanistan.

http://www.juancole.com/

So, where does that leave us regarding Iran? Oh, we can bomb the hell out of them then set back and watch them fight one another. Now that is some plan. Are you buying in Gen. Petraeus? You have been a yes man down the line so far.

]]> By: Xisithrus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4113964 Xisithrus Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:27:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4113964 Comment by Candyce — October 9, 2007 @ 8:36 pm I been practicing being a loonative, its makes my head hurt though cause being a hypocrite is really hard work! I can see why MR P and Daryll and Jake can only post to/on certain threads. Comment by Candyce — October 9, 2007 @ 8:36 pm

I been practicing being a loonative, its makes my head hurt though cause being a hypocrite is really hard work!

I can see why MR P and Daryll and Jake can only post to/on certain threads.

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4113950 The Republic of Stupidity Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:25:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4113950 Someone needs to tell everyone there is no “war”.Not even close. Comment by Johnsnottoodistracted — October 9, 2007 @ 10:04 pm Uhhhh... there's a war going on, John... it's jes' not the one they're pretendin' it is... that's all... Someone needs to tell everyone there is no “war”.Not even close.

Comment by Johnsnottoodistracted — October 9, 2007 @ 10:04 pm

Uhhhh… there’s a war going on, John… it’s jes’ not the one they’re pretendin’ it is… that’s all…

]]> By: Johnsnottoodistracted http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4113941 Johnsnottoodistracted Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:04:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4113941 Someone needs to tell everyone there is no "war".Not even close. Someone needs to tell everyone there is no “war”.Not even close.

]]> By: keepinon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4113940 keepinon Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:58:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4113940 Like many aspects of American life, our overuse of the troops is unsustainable. I feel so much safer now! Like many aspects of American life, our overuse of the troops is unsustainable. I feel so much safer now!

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4113933 Lefty Patriot Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:50:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4113933 Cole also states that he can see US troops moving into Basra in the future. Comment by lefttown — October 9, 2007 @ 9:47 pm proving, once again, that we can't possible "win" in Iraq. Time to go. Cole also states that he can see US troops moving into Basra in the future.

Comment by lefttown — October 9, 2007 @ 9:47 pm

proving, once again, that we can’t possible “win” in Iraq. Time to go.

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4113930 The Republic of Stupidity Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:48:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4113930 We all know that Hillary, Obama, Edwards, etc will keep us there for AT LEAST 6 more years! So much for the Nov referendum! Comment by John Kerry — October 9, 2007 @ 9:43 pm Somwhere along the line, ya think a numb-nutted fool like this one would actually start to worry about what this will do to the country down the road. Talk about an UNAMERICAN POS! We all know that Hillary, Obama, Edwards, etc will keep us there for AT LEAST 6 more years!

So much for the Nov referendum!

Comment by John Kerry — October 9, 2007 @ 9:43 pm

Somwhere along the line, ya think a numb-nutted fool like this one would actually start to worry about what this will do to the country down the road.

Talk about an UNAMERICAN POS!

]]> By: lefttown http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4113928 lefttown Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:47:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4113928 Basra isn't necessarily secure. Here's a passage from Juan Cole's site: " In turn, one could imagine a perilous situation emerging in Basra (population 1.5 million), dealing with which would require more than 1250 troops. Some observers worry that the British contingent could get so small that it might be overwhelmed by militant Shiite militiamen, and be forced to evacuate by helicopter, as in the last days of the US in Saigon." Cole also states that he can see US troops moving into Basra in the future. Basra isn’t necessarily secure. Here’s a passage from Juan Cole’s site:
” In turn, one could imagine a perilous situation emerging in Basra (population 1.5 million), dealing with which would require more than 1250 troops.
Some observers worry that the British contingent could get so small that it might be overwhelmed by militant Shiite militiamen, and be forced to evacuate by helicopter, as in the last days of the US in Saigon.”
Cole also states that he can see US troops moving into Basra in the future.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4113927 Lefty Patriot Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:47:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4113927 We all know that Hillary, Obama, Edwards, etc will keep us there for AT LEAST 6 more years! So much for the Nov referendum! Comment by John Kerry — October 9, 2007 @ 9:43 pm we don't know anything of the sort. You hope that the Dems are as venal and stupid as the repigs, but there's no proof of that; in fact, just the opposite. You sound really scared that we're going to have a free country here sooner than later. perhaps it's time for you to move to North Korea. We all know that Hillary, Obama, Edwards, etc will keep us there for AT LEAST 6 more years!

So much for the Nov referendum!

Comment by John Kerry — October 9, 2007 @ 9:43 pm

we don’t know anything of the sort. You hope that the Dems are as venal and stupid as the repigs, but there’s no proof of that; in fact, just the opposite. You sound really scared that we’re going to have a free country here sooner than later. perhaps it’s time for you to move to North Korea.

]]> By: Moderation http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4113925 Moderation Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:46:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4113925 <em>Exactly what Bin Laden claims he did to bring down the Soviet Union: kept them fighting in Afghanistan until they’re broken (financially and militarily). Sucker ‘em in and they won’t know when to leave until it’s way too late. HOORAW! Comment by Bob — October 9, 2007 @ 9:43 pm</em> If I'm not mistaken, it's not just what bin Laden claims. It's what the CIA specifically TRAINED him to do. It is the specific sort of insurgency tactics we taught him. Hit and run. Hide. Drag out an occupation to drain their military. Exactly what Bin Laden claims he did to bring down the Soviet Union: kept them fighting in Afghanistan until they’re broken (financially and militarily).

Sucker ‘em in and they won’t know when to leave until it’s way too late.
HOORAW!

Comment by Bob — October 9, 2007 @ 9:43 pm

If I’m not mistaken, it’s not just what bin Laden claims. It’s what the CIA specifically TRAINED him to do. It is the specific sort of insurgency tactics we taught him. Hit and run. Hide. Drag out an occupation to drain their military.

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/comment-page-1/#comment-4113923 Bob Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:43:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/09/casey-army-years/#comment-4113923 Exactly what Bin Laden claims he did to bring down the Soviet Union: kept them fighting in Afghanistan until they're broken (financially and militarily). Sucker 'em in and they won't know when to leave until it's way too late. HOORAW! Exactly what Bin Laden claims he did to bring down the Soviet Union: kept them fighting in Afghanistan until they’re broken (financially and militarily).

Sucker ‘em in and they won’t know when to leave until it’s way too late.
HOORAW!

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