25,000:
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25,000:
Number of people the U.S. military is holding in its prisons in Iraq, according to Gen. Douglas Stone. Approximately 860 of the detainees are under the age of 16.” The United States has incarcerated “10,000 more detainees compared to this time last year, worsening already serious backlogs in the court system.”
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We is edacating their childrens.
October 10th, 2007 at 9:07 pmAnd they call it “Democracy”
October 10th, 2007 at 9:09 pmApproximately 860 of the detainees are under the age of 16.â€
Absolutely Fscking Outragious
Do they torture the kids too, like they have all the other “terrists” ?
October 10th, 2007 at 9:09 pmIf they keep this up, Iraq will end up with as high a percentage of its population behind bars as we have locked up here in the USA.
October 10th, 2007 at 9:12 pmI don’t call them children, I call them “Pre-Terrrists”.
-The Decider
October 10th, 2007 at 9:12 pmGives new meaning to no child left behind.
October 10th, 2007 at 9:13 pmMaybe they are just putting them in a free speech zone or perhaps there is a Pot problem in Iraq.
October 10th, 2007 at 9:17 pmThey probably wanted S-CHIP insurance coverage.
-GSD
October 10th, 2007 at 9:21 pmI always hear people saying it is ok to torture terrorists. I would love to hear a troll’s argument for why it is ok to torture a 15 year old.
October 10th, 2007 at 9:26 pmAt least the prison population is surging. If we kill of incarcerate everybody Iraq will finally have the Democracy envisioned by Bush. No bid contracts all around, drink up!
October 10th, 2007 at 9:26 pmStupid Question – if Iraq is doing a better job and getting ready to step up, wouldn’t one expect the number of folks in the IRAQI prison to INCREASE; and folks in the AMERICAN prison to DECREASE ????????
October 10th, 2007 at 9:27 pmWe have seen the moral authority that our forefathers invisioned for this country languish in a group of folks called Congress.
A war under false pretense.
We hire mercenaries to do our bidding.
We preach fear.
We incarcerate without warrant or charges.
We ask the News to look away as greater atrocities take place.
I don’t care what anyones’ beliefs or politics are here on TP;
October 10th, 2007 at 9:36 pmYou cannot be of this Universe and allow what is occurring.
Youth detention facility adds to Iraqis’ misery.
“As if it’s not enough that the Iraqis lost their homes, family members, jobs and in general their lives, the U.S. is now creating a new dilemma; an Iraqi youth detention facility. The children jailed there are aged between 11 and 17 years old and are detained over allegations ranging from theft to murder.
Those imprisoned are said to be mostly Sunnis. Ali Mohammed is a teenager among thousands of detainees kept in an overcrowded prison in Western Baghdad who has no idea what his crime is. “They told me they would only question me for five minutes and I have been here since the 25th of April,” Mohammed told Reuters. “I suffer from epilepsy, a weak spine and a speech defect”, he added, expressing his surprise that he is considered a security threat.”
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m37058&hd=&size=1&l=e
October 10th, 2007 at 9:41 pmThe children jailed there are aged between 11 and 17 years old and are detained over allegations ranging from theft to murder.
Comment by John — October 10, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
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I don’t care what anyones’ beliefs or politics are here on TP;
You cannot be of this Universe and allow what is occurring.
Comment by leftcoast — October 10, 2007 @ 9:36 pm
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11 years old. This is deeply, profoundly wrong, from any standpoint.
October 10th, 2007 at 9:45 pmBut remember there was “joy” when the US freed children from Iraqi prisons in 2003!
The moral rot in America is reaching critical mass.
-GSD
October 10th, 2007 at 9:49 pmWho needs Saddam?
October 10th, 2007 at 9:50 pmW has become Saddam.
October 10th, 2007 at 9:52 pmAnd there is surprise why?
October 10th, 2007 at 10:01 pmDemocracy and freedom is what we stand for – yeah, right! We’ve become total hypocrites.
October 10th, 2007 at 10:08 pmjb sez:
Saddam could only dream of the incredible resources and the utterly pliable federal government and native populace W enjoys.
October 10th, 2007 at 10:34 pmComment by TripMaster Monkey — October 10, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
W has certainly done more damage and inflicted more suffering on innocent people than Saddam. These are sad and desperate times.
October 10th, 2007 at 10:38 pmBush scares me more than bin Laden or Saddam ever did.
October 10th, 2007 at 11:02 pmI bet all those detainees are Al-Qaeda members.
They have to be, like all those people killed in weddings, celebrations and routine life activities.
October 10th, 2007 at 11:10 pmCheney/Bush and this neocon administration are the terrorests that should be behind bar’s not the children and innocent’s in Iraq…..This evil administration need’s to be held accountable now and if the damn dem’s arent going to do it they won’t get my vote ever again…..Enough of all this evil and distruction……
October 10th, 2007 at 11:18 pmOur Government doesn’t see people as human so we torture Men, Woman and Children. This is how much the United States has changed since Bush stole the Office of President. We will likely hear more horrors done by the Administration as the end of this Presidency comes. We have Law Makers in the United States that are perverts, child molester and hire prostitutes so what do you expect. We allowed the White House to let US soldiers be murdered and they we saw Rummy and the Generals cover it up.
October 10th, 2007 at 11:43 pmThis is not the country founded by our four fathers it is now the true Axis of Evil.
Bush scares me more than bin Laden or Saddam ever did.
Comment by Zooey — October 10, 2007 @ 11:02 pm
The Monsterous Government in violation of the Constitution he helped create is more insidious than the idiot puppet will ever be.
I do not trust that Government even in the hands of Hillary Clinton.
That is what truely scares me, that the crooks in Congress will let all these transgressions slide and keep the powers they grabbed in place.
Then sooner or later, we will get a president with a dictator’s wet dreams, then the Constitutrion is really toast.
From Dick Cheney’s Theme song:
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October 11th, 2007 at 12:28 amPleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name
But whats puzzling you
Is the nature of my game
♫ ♪
Enough of all this evil and distruction……
Comment by Witch1 — October 10, 2007 @ 11:18 pm
Agreed
October 11th, 2007 at 12:31 amEnough is enough.
When I think of how many lives George Bush has taken or ruined, I can only think that Hell is too good a place for him to end up. I am beginning to agree with people who equate Bush with Hitler. He is definitely right up there on the evil scale with Hitler.
October 11th, 2007 at 12:39 amHe is definitely right up there on the evil scale with Hitler.
Comment by bilbobaggins — October 11, 2007 @ 12:39 am
Not just Bush.
October 11th, 2007 at 12:47 amThe overthrow of the Constitutional Government has co-conspirators in every branch of Government, even the House and Senate, the Media and in Corporate Society.
Almost every estate of society has been corrupted or manipulated by these fascist.
This has been in the works at least since Nixon, possibly even as far back as Prescott Bush.
How many did Sadam have in his prisons? Less than GW666 I would gather.
How many Iraqi’s did Sadam kill? Less than GW666 I would gather.
How many Iraqi’s did Sadam make refugees? Less than GW666 I would gather.
Looks like a trend here.
Buck Fush
October 11th, 2007 at 1:34 amDemocracy and freedom is what we stand for – yeah, right! We’ve become total hypocrites.
Comment by Veritas — October 10, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
Not we, the radical right wing!
October 11th, 2007 at 1:54 amWhat the Hell right do we have……
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October 11th, 2007 at 2:08 amWhen I was reading about all the torture going on at Abu Ghraib and the other prisons at the time, the Pentagon said 90% were later released because they could not be found guilty of anything. Many had been arrested just because a rival clan wanted them arrested—sometimes for the reward. Some had just been rounded up in “sweeps”, without any crime being committed.
October 11th, 2007 at 3:06 amActually, the number of Americans in US prisons in US prisons is 2 million, a rate of 1 person in every 151, highest in the world. In Iraq, our incarceration rate is only 1 in 1000. Of course, that does not count the Iraq government figures. I guess the strategy is let them kill themselves, kill some of them ourselves, drive them out of their homes, and arrest those that are still left. After a while the violence is bound to go down.
October 11th, 2007 at 3:08 amComment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 3:06 am
How many of those 90% who most likely got tortured now support the insurgency? How many of these 25,000 will be released and fervently anti-US?
We can click our heels and hope for an end, but that’s just dumb.
They don’t want us there. We don’t want us there. Let’s get out of there.
October 11th, 2007 at 5:34 amMy heart soars like the eagle, Grandfather! Don’t it make ya proud?
October 11th, 2007 at 7:35 amBefore the war, Bush and Company lied that it wasn’t about regime change, but as President, during the early stages of our Iraq ‘adventure’, he AUTHORIZED the bombing of two restaurants hoping to kill Saddam while willing to kill dozens, perhaps hundreds as “collateral breakage” just in order to try to sate his appetite for Saddam’s blood. After such un-Christian, inhuman actions, nothing which follows should surprise or shock anyone including the detention of huge numbers of children. The Congress of the United States, the American media, the coalition of the semi-willing, the UK, etc., and all of us who don’t speak up share in this carnage and dishonor.
October 11th, 2007 at 7:44 amWinning the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people, I see. Good job. Mission accomplished.
October 11th, 2007 at 1:32 pmUS has highest actual prison population, not just per capita. 2.2 million US prisoners. 1.5 million in China, even though China has one billion more people.
Sociologists have known for one hundred years that tough sentences do not mean less crime.
October 12th, 2007 at 12:47 pm