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Carter: Cheney is ‘a disaster for our country.’»

In an recent interview with the BBC, former President Jimmy Carter slammed Vice President Cheney as a “militant” who has been “disaster” for the United States:

He’s a militant who avoided any service of his own in the military and he has been most forceful in the last 10 years or more in fulfilling some of his more ancient commitments that the United States has a right to inject its power through military means in other parts of the world. […]

You know he’s been a disaster for our country. I think he’s been overly persuasive on President George Bush and quite often he’s prevailed. It was one of his main commitments to go into Iraq under false pretenses, and he still maintains those false pretenses are accurate.

Watch it:

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In an interview with CNN, President Carter said the U.S. is undoubtedly torturing prisoners in violation of international law. “I don’t think it. I know it,” Carter told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer.




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99 Responses to “Carter: Cheney is ‘a disaster for our country.’”

  1. Buckie Boy Says:

    We have met the enemy and it is Dick Cheney.

    Buck Fush


  2. koko the talking gorilla Says:

    Jimmy Carter speaks the truth.


  3. Dave C Says:

    Everyone, right & left, knows that what Carter is saying is the truth. Of course the U.S. tortures, they just changed the definition of the word. The right doesn’t care. They choose to believe that torture yields results & ignore the fact that you don’t know if the person you’re torturing is a terrorist or an innocent party. They choose to believe that only guilty people are tortured, ignoring the hundreds of innocents released from Abu Ghraib. Truth & facts are irrelevant when you’re carrying water for a terrorist like GWB.


  4. mark Says:

    That’s okay. In a couple of days he’ll back off and say his words were taken out of context.

    *sigh*


  5. upside99 Says:

    WOW!! Someone in a position of true power has mentioned the (evil) elephant in the room. I am wondering when the BushCo Scumbags will be working full-tilt to try and Swift-boat him.


  6. Witch1 Says:

    Any one else seeing a problem with the post number’s….My puter say 8 and only one visable….What’s up.?.

    Heard this interview, Carter’s a good man and as alway’s tell’s us like it is….Blessings


  7. upside99 Says:

    Comment by Witch1 — October 10, 2007 @ 7:30 pm

    That is real-time troll feces clean-up in action.


  8. Dave C Says:

    Comment by Witch1 — October 10, 2007 @ 7:30 pm

    I assumed that posts get deleted for whatever reason but the count remains the actual total.


  9. Nevar Says:

    Blessings for Jimmy Carter!

    Troll Patrol has been very active today, whichone, it has been blessedly free of the abusive ignoramus’ all day!



  10. jb Says:

    Though not a christian myself, Jimmy Carter is one I admire. He does his best to actually follow the teachings of Christ, such as telling the truth and trying to help those less fortunate. So unlike the loud voices that pass themselves off as followers of jeezus.


  11. koko the talking gorilla Says:

    Is there anyone in the world who can imagine George W. Bush spending his post-White House days the way Mr. Carter has, doing charitable works and championing fair elections in fledgling democracies?

    How I imagine George W. Bush’s future: “Ex-Prez Bush Lands in Crawford Drunk Tank… Again”


  12. jb Says:

    If our nation would have stuck with the energy goals set out by President Carter, we would not be in the FIX we are in, in the Middle East. Another huge mistake the follows of Ronny Raygun fail to see.


  13. Dave C Says:

    Sure, Dickie Boy is perhaps the root of all evil, but Jimmy doesn’t help his case out any.

    Comment by JSchmoAZ — October 10, 2007 @ 7:43 pm

    IOW, sure Carter is right, but, but, but… Clinton did it too.

    p.s. Carter doesn’t need help making his case. It’s self-evident to most.


  14. jb Says:

    Everybody except those too rich to care will be wearing a sweater this winter.


  15. leftcoast Says:

    He swift boats himself all the time with his stupid comments.
    Comment by JSchmoAZ — October 10, 2007 @ 7:43 pm

    I doubt anyone could make more stupid comments than Bush, but our childrens is learning.


  16. Badmoodman Says:

    Wow, this post is nirvana for Trolls.


  17. dixie blood Says:

    Are you listening Nancy PollLoser? (probably not, raisin’ cash at the nearest corp trough)

    A PHUCKING FORMER PREZ calls the current VP a useless VP and DISASTER!!!

    IMPEACH! THIS BASTARD!!!

    Nancy, you are rapidly becoming a real loser Speaker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  18. koko the talking gorilla Says:

    …his stupid comments.

    Some people will never forgive Carter for calling on Israel to end Palestinian aparthied in the Middle East.

    Jimmy Carter speaks the truth. Some people just can’t handle the truth.


  19. Nevar Says:

    “Ex-Prez Bush Lands in Crawford Drunk Tank… Again”

    Comment by koko the talking gorilla

    “Ex-Prez Bush loses other big toe to lawn mower”


  20. jb Says:

    More truth from Jimmy in just a few comments than a whole lifetime of Rush or Faux News. Notice the BBC banner.


  21. Lefty Patriot Says:

    Like Jimmy needs any help to make his case. he was a fine president, and the best ex-president we could ever hope to see. George Bush will be at the bottom of the list, as he is now, for all time. Carter will gain in stature as history takes the long view.


  22. koko the talking gorilla Says:

    “Ex-Prez Bush loses other big toe to lawn mower”

    Sub-head: “Toe Re-Attached at Hospital At No Cost: As Ex-Prez, He Has Federally Mandate, Federally Paid Health Care Coverage, Despite Personal Fortune.”


  23. jb Says:

    Carter will gain in stature as history takes the long view.

    Comment by Lefty Patriot — October 10, 2007 @ 7:55 pm

    We can thank Raygun and the GOP for trashing Carters energy plan including incentives for solar power. We are just now inching back to his policies just some 30 years too late. Thanks GOP pigs.


  24. Wayne Says:

    How I imagine George W. Bush’s future: “Ex-Prez Bush Lands in Crawford Drunk Tank… Again”

    Comment by koko the talking gorilla — October 10, 2007 @ 7:43 pm

    hehe

    Police Report:
    Suspect was wavering on his bicycle near the Quickie Mart, then suspect ran into the ditch and flipped onto his back and started cursing in slurred word, “Damn that Dick Cheney, he moved da ditch on me again, its all his fault”.
    Arrested for Public Intoxication.


  25. leftcoast Says:

    We can thank Raygun and the GOP for trashing Carters energy plan including incentives for solar power. We are just now inching back to his policies just some 30 years too late. Thanks GOP pigs.

    Comment by jb — October 10, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
    I can only think about hostages held until after the Reagan election.
    And the first Bush’s election when the S and L banking crisis was witheld from the public by Reagan after he was informed just so Bush would not be tainted with the fallout.


  26. bilbobaggins Says:

    WOW!! Someone in a position of true power has mentioned the (evil) elephant in the room. I am wondering when the BushCo Scumbags will be working full-tilt to try and Swift-boat him.
    Comment by upside99

    The Right has been trying to swift-boat Carter for years. Problem is, he’s such a humble, decent and honest guy, they always end up looking like the fools that they are.


  27. Fools on the Hill Says:

    Carter should lend his balls to the pandering Clintons.


  28. jb Says:

    Cheney’s energy policy connived behind closed doors with oil industry with no thought other than maximizing profits and their grip on power compared to Carter’s open vision of a self reliant country able to meets its own energy needs. I think Carter’s characterization of The Big Dick was charitable.


  29. jb Says:

    I can only think about hostages held until after the Reagan election.
    And the first Bush’s election when the S and L banking crisis was witheld from the public by Reagan after he was informed just so Bush would not be tainted with the fallout.

    Comment by leftcoast — October 10, 2007 @ 8:04 pm

    Talk about rigged elections! The big lie from the right calling the media liberal has been doing damage to our country for all of my lifetime.


  30. upside99 Says:

    I think Carter’s characterization of The Big Dick was charitable.

    Comment by jb — October 10, 2007 @ 8:09 pm

    I hope this stirs more review of Darth’s activities and “out” his illegal, immoral and evil actions.

    And with a witch for a wife like Lynn, maybe he is already living in his Hell. I can only imagine what that must be like!


  31. bilbobaggins Says:

    There is no reason for Republicans/Conservatives to swift boat Peanut Boy. He swift boats himself all the time with his stupid comments. Sure, Dickie Boy is perhaps the root of all evil, but Jimmy doesn’t help his case out any.
    Comment by JSchmoAZ

    Jimmy Carter speaks the truth. Some people (like you) can’t handle the truth so you disparage the person telling the truth. Jimmy Carter has more honor and dignity in his big toe than you have in your entire body.

    Jimmy Carter is the definition of a true Christian. The so-called religious right could never come close to being the kind of Christian that Carter is.


  32. jb Says:

    I can only imagine what that must be like!

    Comment by upside99 — October 10, 2007 @ 8:12 pm

    Shoot first, sober up later.


  33. theswan Says:

    Maybe one of the better Presidents of the last half century.
    Excepting being blamed for the price of bread going up. Or the failed brave mission he had to undertake to reach our comrads in Terhan.

    He put solar on the Whitehouse so that reagan could dismantle it for higher oil prices.
    He communicated with the American people.
    He served.
    He was intelligent and still is.
    He had and still has more credibility than the present occupier of the WH.
    Carter is a man who confides in the truth, something sooo lacking in today’s political atmosphere.
    Always great to hear his point of view.
    And believed when he speaks.



  34. koko the talking gorilla Says:

    One of the best things about President Carter was that we wasn’t afraid to go out and talk with real people.

    If Boy-in-a-Bubble Bush ever had the stones to go out in uncontrolled environments, he’d find out pretty damn quick that 2/3 of his countrymen think he’s a lying, incompetent POS.


  35. Jackie Says:

    At last the truth and in your face to Cheney. It’s those 5 deferments that did him in. Cheney is in charge and now a President has stepped up and told the World we do torture. The Supreme Court knows it and now the United Nations knows it. The Bush Administration under the leadership of Dick Cheney is torturing prisoners men as well as children. Americans seem to act like their are clue less to the fact but we do torture children and woman. We are now a country run by Dick Cheney a man who is a coward and so weak he was scared to serve in the United States Military when he was called. The Media and Journalist praise this coward and that should tell us something.


  36. willyloman Says:

    Comment by bilbobaggins — October 10, 2007 @ 8:13 pm

    I agree. President Carter is a good honest man who is trying his best to use his influence to make the world a better place for everyone. As opposed to the selfish, self-serving trogladites that pass for an administration we have now who have rebuilt this country, on our dime, into a coporate welfare state for the rich and dishonest.


  37. willyloman Says:

    Rudy tried going out around the public at the Yankees game and got booed! They hate that lying piece of dung in New York.


  38. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    Test.


  39. Guido OBGYN Lover Says:

    What a disaster. Cheney, Blackwater, on and on.

    Willing criminals like Cheney, Bush and the Republicans will steal elections.


  40. jb Says:

    Bushco tortures to the SHAME of USA and Jimmy Carter knows it and says it. Now lets put a stop to it.


  41. km4 Says:

    ‘Cheney is a militant’….that is priceless and spot on accurate.

    Thank you Pres. Carter for having the cahones to speak the truth about Darth Cheney unlike the lame ass Dem politicians today.


  42. Guido OBGYN Lover Says:

    Here’s a classic:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=p3SemYQH-8o

    Speak your mind!


  43. marlow Says:

    The problem with Jimmy is that he understates things. Cheney is far worse than a disaster. He is a catastrophe, the man who quite likely has destroyed the Republic.


  44. MapleStreet Says:

    Looking back at the presidents during my adult lifetime, I often wonder about Carter- who (as the above posts list) was a decent man, the economy did OK (compare the Dow Jones percentage increase under the various Presidents - the best 2 term prez was Clinton, followed by Reagan, and Shrub hasn’t even kept track with inflation) he moved the US forward with far sighted policies such as alternative energy. Yet, he was vilified in the press.

    Clinton was the best economy increase. (Oh, before some wingnut chants the mantra of “9/11″, it was falling before, 9/11 introduced a 2 month dip that recovered, and the economy then continued to fall.) He was a good enough diplomat that even Shrub named him to co-lead the way in collecting money for NOLA. Again, the nation kept its nose clean (despite Clinton’s failing), and again he was totally vilified far before the sexual scandal erupted. My main disappointment with him was that he was so full of promise but couldn’t get traction.

    Now the public worships Shrub/Darth Cheney. National debt has exploded. The economy is poor. and has only recently regained the ground lost during the first 6 years of Shrub (hey, the recovery coincidentally occured with the return of a democratic Congress ???).

    Of course, Gore wasn’t president. But he was vilified and sunk with his mistaken idea of Global Warming (oops - he was right about this).

    What gives that southern Democrats seem automatically vilified.


  45. Fan of Man Says:

    Its Official…. (well since 9-11) Republicans are the sworn enemy and officially labeled TERRORISTS!


  46. Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver Says:

    “…He’s a militant who avoided any service of his own in the military…”

    You could say that about nearly every whacked out right wing loon today, especially “Drug” Rush.


  47. Veritas Says:

    Jimmy Carter is a true patriot and an honest man. He knows that Deadeye Dick is the real president who is Puppet Master of GWB.


  48. jb Says:

    Comment by ron — October 10, 2007 @ 9:54 pm

    Carter’s Habitat for Humanity is not building extravagant McMansions…Shame on the pretentious rich. How many died on a failed mission to save hostages in Iran? It certainly pales in comparison to the lost lives in Bush’s illegal invasion and occupation for oil or whatever. At least Carter was willing to examine his own mind and be honest about it. Carter towers above the feeble shrub.


  49. Veritas Says:

    Fan of Man: It’s beginning to appear that the Repukes are the real “enemy within” this democracy.


  50. Shayne Says:

    Comment by ron — October 10, 2007 @ 9:51 pm

    Sure ron, and there are 700,000 less homeowners than when Bush took office. The economy and everything else is perfect to you koolaid drinkers.


  51. Shayne Says:

    Hey ron, you want to post a couple of more lame Limbaugh talking points before your idiocy starts getting you deleted, troll?


  52. jb Says:

    Fan of Man: It’s beginning to appear that the Repukes are the real “enemy within” this democracy.

    Comment by Veritas — October 10, 2007 @ 10:06 pm

    They openly defy the constitution. They openly support torture and our ignoring of the Geneva Conventions. The openly support policies that are driving our military into the ground. They openly support trade and tax policy that benefits only wealthy share holders and ceos at the expense of our working people. Phony war on terror. Failed war on drugs. This country is going down. Thanks GOP.


  53. dishwashing engineer Says:

    Another classic - I still couldn’t believe it the first time I saw it.

    Cheney on why America shouldn’t invade Iraq.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=uYelErVS6_w


  54. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    Heard this interview, Carter’s a good man and as alway’s tell’s us like it is….Blessings

    Comment by Witch1 — October 10, 2007 @ 7:30 pm

    Exactly. Carter is an actual, PRACTICING Christian.

    Who brokered PEACE between mortal enemies.
    Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL coxucker PUNK and a a TRAITOR to the USA


  55. Willy Says:

    In response to Carter’s remarks about this administration torturing prisoners, a senior White House official said “It’s just sad to hear a former president speak like that.”

    Apparently the Bush administration considers it “sad” that a former president has the temerity to reject immorality. Obviously the right-wing are Christians in name only.


  56. Wayne Says:

    I have to say to the TP staff : Nice job on the troll dropping cleanup today =)


  57. jb Says:

    Exactly. Carter is an actual, PRACTICING Christian.

    Who brokered PEACE between mortal enemies.
    Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL coxucker PUNK and a a TRAITOR to the USA

    Comment by Arn Gunnutes — October 10, 2007 @ 10:19 pm

    Yeah, that’s what I was trying to say.


  58. John Kerry Says:

    To have the BIGGEST DISASTER and FAILURE and the WORST PRESIDENT ever to call anyone else a disaster isa total joke!


  59. Brain From Planet Arous Says:

    We can thank Raygun and the GOP for trashing Carters energy plan including incentives for solar power. We are just now inching back to his policies just some 30 years too late. Thanks GOP pigs.

    Comment by jb — October 10, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
    I can only think about hostages held until after the Reagan election.
    And the first Bush’s election when the S and L banking crisis was witheld from the public by Reagan after he was informed just so Bush would not be tainted with the fallout.

    Comment by leftcoast

    Yes. these are the two most prominent Reagen (howdy doody) legacies. I just love it when people now refer to that piece of cried beef jerky, GHW Bush as “moderate”. He killed 3000 innocents in Panama, invaded Iraq, and pardoned every criminal of the Iran Contra affair. The Neo-Con movement was damaged by Tricky Dick, and they came in full force, attacking the good-natured Carter, and thus we have now oil wars, surveillance and police state, Constitution shredding, and so many more destructive actions against our country.

    Who benefits?


  60. koko the talking gorilla Says:

    To have the BIGGEST DISASTER and FAILURE and the WORST PRESIDENT ever to call anyone else a disaster isa total joke.

    Hahahaha! George W. Bush, draft-dodger, liar, buffoon extraordinaire, is not fit to carry Jimmy Carter’s spittoon.


  61. WaltTheMan Says:

    Jimmy neither wears a flag pin on his lapel nor religion on his sleeve. He also actually served in the armed services and is an engineer/scientist and a humanitarian. He is about three degrees of difference from any of the Bushes going back about ten generations.


  62. jb Says:

    Comment by John Kerry — October 10, 2007 @ 10:40 pm

    Did Bush call someone a disaster?


  63. jb Says:

    In fact, everything Bush says is now known to be a joke, a sad miserable joke, but a joke none the less.


  64. Zooey Says:

    How refreshing. The scent of deleted troll crap. ;)



  65. John Kerry Says:

    Jimmah Carter = imbecile; traitor; fool; liar; wacko; left nut


  66. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    To have the BIGGEST DISASTER and FAILURE and the WORST PRESIDENT ever to call anyone else a disaster isa total joke!

    Comment by John Kerry — October 10, 2007 @ 10:40 pm

    Carter is a good decent Christian and a PATRIOTIC American who cares about America, the World, God and PEACE with one’s fellow man.

    MURDERER Bush is a COXUCKER punk TRAITOR to the USA.

    The WORLD knows it.

    Too bad for YOU, huh???

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


  67. ForTruth Says:

    I think its funny that all the little puke-faced trolls can’t vomit on the threads. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.


  68. ForTruth Says:

    All the greedy b*stards hate Carter. It was about the ruling class being threatened.


  69. Zooey Says:

    Ok, TP. My comment didn’t make the cut, so I recommended ForTruth instead. ;)


  70. ForTruth Says:

    Ok, TP. My comment didn’t make the cut, so I recommended ForTruth instead. ;)

    Comment by Zooey

    Cool!


  71. Zooey Says:

    Heh. TP doesn’t like the f - word anymore. ;)


  72. ForTruth Says:

    Small price to pay, to have the crap-sucking machine keep the threads clean.


  73. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    Heh. TP doesn’t like the f - word anymore. ;)

    Comment by Zooey — October 10, 2007 @ 11:50 pm

    But they LOVE Coxackie (a real town in NY)!!


  74. dishwashing engineer Says:

    We need to get Jimmy back on the American media circuit. Why is this on BBC?!?!

    Shouldn’t be too hard since ‘media’ is synonymous with ‘liberal’. Although, I find it strange that Lou Dobbs (who to me is a centrist, not even liberal), has been pushed to 1am or 3pm on the west coast, which are probably the most inconvenient times for any viewers that seem to be his target audience (blue collar/middle class). Or, according to BJunior, “Those that shall not be named”.

    OMG I JUST HEARD THIS ON FOX NOISE!!
    “Smart, Driven, Influential - Dick Cheney - What will his legacy be?”
    It’s a show they’re airing. Please have a piece on thinkprogress after this airs. Looks like this weekend.

    ***

    Carter’s vision is amazing. Here’s a link to his whole “Energy Policy” speech from 1977. It’s worth reading/rereading.

    http://www.pbs.org/ wgbh/ amex/ carter/ filmmore/ ps_energy.html

    I wonder what happened to the solar panels Raygun removed. Probably thrown in the trash instead of donated to a Boys & Girls Club or some other fiscally responsible (or sensible) end. Did he ever give a reason for removing them? I’d love to read his reasoning… “I don’t understand them…. they’re square…. and my V.P. gave me a hundred bucks.. woot!”

    Americans need a seachange in consciousness. Conserve, tread lightly, and be compassionate. It probably doesn’t matter much since Cheney and his crew are cutting the country apart at the knees. Cheney is a globalist-militant. Rolling Stone had a piece about his plans to attack Iran. Some republicans are wondering whether he and Bu$h are willing to sacrifice the Republican party as they try and build a legacy centered around the Middle East. Many seem to think, “definitely, yes”.

    Bush Co. and Cronies will definitely leave a legacy - evil evil evil - THE WORST administration ever.


  75. ForTruth Says:

    Ph*ck the filter.



  76. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    Carter’s vision is amazing. Here’s a link to his whole “Energy Policy” speech from 1977. It’s worth reading/rereading.

    http://www.pbs.org/ wgbh/ amex/ carter/ filmmore/ ps_energy.html

    I wonder what happened to the solar panels Raygun removed.

    Answer:

    As soon as Ronnie got into office, backed by big oil, they wiped out ALL the money earmarked for synfuels, hydrogen and solar.

    Left it ALL to Oil, Coal and Nuclear.

    All owned by OIL.

    30 years WASTED where we should already be

    ENERGY INDEPENDENT!!

    Reagan was just another cog in the BushCrime (TM) machine…


  77. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    Thank you Pres. Carter for having the cahones to speak the truth about Darth Cheney unlike the lame ass Dem politicians today.

    Comment by km4 — October 10, 2007 @ 8:56 pm

    And on The Daily Show tonight, Lynne Cheney gave Jon Stewart as little Darth Vader stauette. She called it “a family heirloom.”


  78. rehbock Says:

    Carter’s record as President was mixed but he is the best ex-President we have everhad. He wasright on in his remarks.


  79. Zooey Says:

    And on The Daily Show tonight, Lynne Cheney gave Jon Stewart as little Darth Vader stauette. She called it “a family heirloom.”
    Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — October 11, 2007 @ 12:16 am

    God, it’s sad how they think they’re so clever.


  80. Wayne Says:

    And on The Daily Show tonight, Lynne Cheney gave Jon Stewart as little Darth Vader stauette. She called it “a family heirloom.”
    Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — October 11, 2007 @ 12:16 am

    Gads, lmao…..

    Like I posted on the top thread:

    From Dick Cheney’s Theme song:

    ♫ ♪
    Pleased to meet you
    Hope you guessed my name
    But whats puzzling you
    Is the nature of my game
    ♫ ♪

    =/


  81. Lora Says:

    When someone as unpretentious and usually gentle as Carter says harsh words about someone, the come across as piercing truth. No need to play Mr. Nice Guy all the time any more, President Carter; please keep on speaking the truth.
    BTW, I noticed that there is a discrepancy of over 30 posts between what the “108 comments” mentioned above and what is really left here, which means some 30 trollish remarks have been deleted. Good work, trolls, if you can’t smear a 12-year old boy enough, then move onto an octogenarian Nobel Peace Prize winner.


  82. Buckie Boy Says:

    Really, really nice to see Jake D., Rory, John Kerry, Ron posts deleted and them banned.
    Roger_Roger you sometimes post good counter posts, not often but at least you are moderately less insane and offensive than those others, that is why I give you less sh!t than the others.
    Daryll, well we just really get a big laugh out of you. You show us just how stupid religious people can be.

    Good going TP thanks for banning the A-Holes

    Buck Fush


  83. Politics50 Says:

    Hopefully Carter does many more appearances in the media, especially American media. Long live Carter.

    Its a shame that his son, Jack did not win his bid for the Senate. Instead we got Ensign to represent Nevada. Next time!

    http://politics50.com/


  84. Keith Says:

    No joke: Cheney’s Secret Service code name is “Edgar”, as in Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy, meaning he is the ventriloquist and W is the dummy.


  85. The Shadow Says:

    No Mark! Mr. Carter won’t be back saying his words were taken out of context. He’s right and you egg sucking rightwingers know it. Look if you want to spend every tax dollar the government forces from us on war, that’s your mental problem. But I want my tax dollar to go toward educating our children, health care, military spending that makes sense and less government spying on US citizens.

    Individual like you (Chickenhawks) are always willing to fight with the blood or life of others. If you believe in the administration policy, then sign up and go to Iraq and fighting for what you believe in. Mr. Cheney avoided going to Viet Nam, but I’m sure you think he’s right to send our kids off to war. That’s typical of Republican thinking. I’t ok be be a coward as long as you are a neo-con war monger who sends others to fight for no good reason.


  86. missmolly Says:

    Jimmy Carter is an honest man — he has a history of speaking the truth even when it hurts; even when people don’t want to hear it. He conducted himself by this principle when he was President, and ever since.

    I doubt seriously that he is intimidated by Darth Cheney machine, as our current politicians seem to be (from both parties!). And he will stand by his words.

    The Bush Administration has already declared Jimmy Carter “irrelevant” — which is about all they can do toward neutralizing him, since he has no skeletons in his closet. Nice try, but it appears there are still plenty of people who listen to him and want to hear what he has to say. Count me among them.


  87. impeachcheneythenbush Says:

    No joke: Cheney’s Secret Service code name is “Edgar”, as in Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy, meaning he is the ventriloquist and W is the dummy.

    Comment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 3:20 am

    Here’s a picture that is appropos. I actually thought this should have been used by MoveOn.Org regarding Petraeus.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Image:EdgarBergenandCharlieMcCarthyStageDoorCanteen1.jpg


  88. lefty Says:

    Comment by O. Bigfoot

    Your highly selective amnesia allows you to mock some of the progessive posters here for praising Carter. While his Presidency certainly had it’s failures, he is more than making up for it in our eyes now. Maybe this colors our assessment of his Presidency in retrospect.

    But maybe the standards for Presidential excellence have been lowered so far by George W. Bush that it makes Carter above average now. Do you have any idea how many times over the last 7 years I have “laughed out loud” at the appraisal of Bush? More times than I can count.

    Do we really need to start listing the embarassing mockability of the praise and characterizations of this spectacular failure of a President? Anyone care to enlighten Mr. Foot with some quotes of the mushy love letters the right were serenading this complete imbecile with?


  89. lefty Says:

    I’ll start with one of Bush’s old girlfriends, Chris Matthews:

    “Sometimes it glimmers with this man, our President, that kind of sunny nobility.”

    “Everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real whack-jobs …”

    “And that’s the president looking very much like a jet, you know, a high-flying jet star.”

    I couldn’t even find the one where he starts complimenting his codpiece. HE GUSHES ABOUT WHAT BUSH IS PACKING!


  90. mark Says:

    No Mark! Mr. Carter won’t be back saying his words were taken out of context. He’s right and you egg sucking rightwingers know it.

    Comment by The Shadow

    Wo’h, Wo’h WO’H Shadow! :)

    I’m on your side! Reading context is hard on a message board.

    I was just frustrated with Carter by the way he backed off the last time he told the truth about this criminal in the white house.

    I agree 100% with everything he said.


  91. cage free brown Says:

    Go, Jimmy, Go!
    he GETS it!
    right wingers are gonna call him Satan on Crack no matter WHAT he does, why not do something good? like call what these guys are doing WRONG. holy crap! how sad it is that he should stick out like an Easter Island Head for doing only that!

    he’s all over mainstream media today while hair-do’s shrivel their noses at the clip. it’s a start!


  92. theswan Says:

    Play it again, Jimmy. People are listening with open ears.


  93. John Kerry Says:

    Jimmah Carter! The WORST (and I mean WORST) President ever. Don’t any of you left nuts remember what it was like? Obviously you don’t! This man was and still is a TOTAL joke!


  94. micros Says:

    Hey “lefty”, wake up. There’s no herds of “Muslim wackos who want to kill us”. The fact that you take that kind of propaganda for granted is just a shame.


  95. Keith Says:

    O. Bigfoot,

    What do you think about Reagan/GHWB selling massive amounts of weaponry illegally to this very same Iran? Thousands of TOW missiles. The plan was for way over $1 billion worth, but had to be cut short after the two plane crashes and some investigative journalism revealed what was going on. The rewarding of hostage-taking led to increase in hostage-taking.

    And Carter had an embargo on trading with Saddam Hussein that was instantly done away with when Reagan took office.

    Total US debt first 200 years, up to end of Carter was $0.9 trillion. After 12 years of Reagan/GHWB this became $4.1 trillion.

    US had world’s greatest trade surplus under Carter. Reagan very quickly gave us the world’s greatest trade deficit.

    Unemployment increased going from Carter to Reagan. Record bankruptcies under Reagan. Personal and small business.

    Carter was graduate of Annapolis and served on nuclear sub. Reagan never left Hollywood during WWII and liked to tell lie about liberating death camps in Poland.

    In 1980 Reagan said the biggest cause of pollution in US was TREES! Kicked off his campaign in Mississippi county famous for killing those who registered blacks to vote.



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