Comments on: Carter: Cheney is ‘a disaster for our country.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:54:40 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Keith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-3/#comment-4117425 Keith Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:28:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4117425 O. Bigfoot, What do you think about Reagan/GHWB selling massive amounts of weaponry illegally to this very same Iran? Thousands of TOW missiles. The plan was for way over $1 billion worth, but had to be cut short after the two plane crashes and some investigative journalism revealed what was going on. The rewarding of hostage-taking led to increase in hostage-taking. And Carter had an embargo on trading with Saddam Hussein that was instantly done away with when Reagan took office. Total US debt first 200 years, up to end of Carter was $0.9 trillion. After 12 years of Reagan/GHWB this became $4.1 trillion. US had world's greatest trade surplus under Carter. Reagan very quickly gave us the world's greatest trade deficit. Unemployment increased going from Carter to Reagan. Record bankruptcies under Reagan. Personal and small business. Carter was graduate of Annapolis and served on nuclear sub. Reagan never left Hollywood during WWII and liked to tell lie about liberating death camps in Poland. In 1980 Reagan said the biggest cause of pollution in US was TREES! Kicked off his campaign in Mississippi county famous for killing those who registered blacks to vote. O. Bigfoot,

What do you think about Reagan/GHWB selling massive amounts of weaponry illegally to this very same Iran? Thousands of TOW missiles. The plan was for way over $1 billion worth, but had to be cut short after the two plane crashes and some investigative journalism revealed what was going on. The rewarding of hostage-taking led to increase in hostage-taking.

And Carter had an embargo on trading with Saddam Hussein that was instantly done away with when Reagan took office.

Total US debt first 200 years, up to end of Carter was $0.9 trillion. After 12 years of Reagan/GHWB this became $4.1 trillion.

US had world’s greatest trade surplus under Carter. Reagan very quickly gave us the world’s greatest trade deficit.

Unemployment increased going from Carter to Reagan. Record bankruptcies under Reagan. Personal and small business.

Carter was graduate of Annapolis and served on nuclear sub. Reagan never left Hollywood during WWII and liked to tell lie about liberating death camps in Poland.

In 1980 Reagan said the biggest cause of pollution in US was TREES! Kicked off his campaign in Mississippi county famous for killing those who registered blacks to vote.

]]> By: micros http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-3/#comment-4117207 micros Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:31:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4117207 Hey "lefty", wake up. There's no herds of "Muslim wackos who want to kill us". The fact that you take that kind of propaganda for granted is just a shame. Hey “lefty”, wake up. There’s no herds of “Muslim wackos who want to kill us”. The fact that you take that kind of propaganda for granted is just a shame.

]]> By: theswan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-3/#comment-4116140 theswan Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:35:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4116140 Play it again, Jimmy. People are listening with open ears. Play it again, Jimmy. People are listening with open ears.

]]> By: cage free brown http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-3/#comment-4116119 cage free brown Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:14:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4116119 Go, Jimmy, Go! he GETS it! right wingers are gonna call him Satan on Crack no matter WHAT he does, why not do something good? like call what these guys are doing WRONG. holy crap! how sad it is that he should stick out like an Easter Island Head for doing only that! he's all over mainstream media today while hair-do's shrivel their noses at the clip. it's a start! Go, Jimmy, Go!
he GETS it!
right wingers are gonna call him Satan on Crack no matter WHAT he does, why not do something good? like call what these guys are doing WRONG. holy crap! how sad it is that he should stick out like an Easter Island Head for doing only that!

he’s all over mainstream media today while hair-do’s shrivel their noses at the clip. it’s a start!

]]> By: mark http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-3/#comment-4115784 mark Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:56:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115784 <i>No Mark! Mr. Carter won’t be back saying his words were taken out of context. He’s right and you egg sucking rightwingers know it. Comment by The Shadow</i> Wo'h, Wo'h WO'H Shadow! :) I'm on your side! Reading context is hard on a message board. I was just frustrated with Carter by the way he backed off the last time he told the truth about this criminal in the white house. I agree 100% with everything he said. No Mark! Mr. Carter won’t be back saying his words were taken out of context. He’s right and you egg sucking rightwingers know it.

Comment by The Shadow

Wo’h, Wo’h WO’H Shadow! :)

I’m on your side! Reading context is hard on a message board.

I was just frustrated with Carter by the way he backed off the last time he told the truth about this criminal in the white house.

I agree 100% with everything he said.

]]> By: lefty http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-3/#comment-4115758 lefty Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:38:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115758 I'll start with one of Bush's old girlfriends, Chris Matthews: <em>"Sometimes it glimmers with this man, our President, that kind of sunny nobility." "Everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real whack-jobs ..." "And that's the president looking very much like a jet, you know, a high-flying jet star."</em> I couldn't even find the one where he starts complimenting his codpiece. HE GUSHES ABOUT WHAT BUSH IS PACKING! I’ll start with one of Bush’s old girlfriends, Chris Matthews:

“Sometimes it glimmers with this man, our President, that kind of sunny nobility.”

“Everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real whack-jobs …”

“And that’s the president looking very much like a jet, you know, a high-flying jet star.”

I couldn’t even find the one where he starts complimenting his codpiece. HE GUSHES ABOUT WHAT BUSH IS PACKING!

]]> By: lefty http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-3/#comment-4115745 lefty Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:33:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115745 <em>Comment by O. Bigfoot</em> Your highly selective amnesia allows you to mock some of the progessive posters here for praising Carter. While his Presidency certainly had it's failures, he is more than making up for it in our eyes now. Maybe this colors our assessment of his Presidency in retrospect. But maybe the standards for Presidential excellence have been lowered so far by George W. Bush that it makes Carter above average now. Do you have any idea how many times over the last 7 years I have "laughed out loud" at the appraisal of Bush? More times than I can count. Do we really need to start listing the embarassing mockability of the praise and characterizations of this spectacular failure of a President? Anyone care to enlighten Mr. Foot with some quotes of the mushy love letters the right were serenading this complete imbecile with? Comment by O. Bigfoot

Your highly selective amnesia allows you to mock some of the progessive posters here for praising Carter. While his Presidency certainly had it’s failures, he is more than making up for it in our eyes now. Maybe this colors our assessment of his Presidency in retrospect.

But maybe the standards for Presidential excellence have been lowered so far by George W. Bush that it makes Carter above average now. Do you have any idea how many times over the last 7 years I have “laughed out loud” at the appraisal of Bush? More times than I can count.

Do we really need to start listing the embarassing mockability of the praise and characterizations of this spectacular failure of a President? Anyone care to enlighten Mr. Foot with some quotes of the mushy love letters the right were serenading this complete imbecile with?

]]> By: impeachcheneythenbush http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-3/#comment-4115628 impeachcheneythenbush Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:53:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115628 No joke: Cheney’s Secret Service code name is “Edgar”, as in Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy, meaning he is the ventriloquist and W is the dummy. Comment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 3:20 am Here's a picture that is appropos. I actually thought this should have been used by MoveOn.Org regarding Petraeus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:EdgarBergenandCharlieMcCarthyStageDoorCanteen1.jpg No joke: Cheney’s Secret Service code name is “Edgar”, as in Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy, meaning he is the ventriloquist and W is the dummy.

Comment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 3:20 am

Here’s a picture that is appropos. I actually thought this should have been used by MoveOn.Org regarding Petraeus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:EdgarBergenandCharlieMcCarthyStageDoorCanteen1.jpg

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-3/#comment-4115627 missmolly Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:45:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115627 Jimmy Carter is an honest man -- he has a history of speaking the truth even when it hurts; even when people don't want to hear it. He conducted himself by this principle when he was President, and ever since. I doubt seriously that he is intimidated by Darth Cheney machine, as our current politicians seem to be (from both parties!). And he will stand by his words. The Bush Administration has already declared Jimmy Carter "irrelevant" -- which is about all they can do toward neutralizing him, since he has no skeletons in his closet. Nice try, but it appears there are still plenty of people who listen to him and want to hear what he has to say. Count me among them. Jimmy Carter is an honest man — he has a history of speaking the truth even when it hurts; even when people don’t want to hear it. He conducted himself by this principle when he was President, and ever since.

I doubt seriously that he is intimidated by Darth Cheney machine, as our current politicians seem to be (from both parties!). And he will stand by his words.

The Bush Administration has already declared Jimmy Carter “irrelevant” — which is about all they can do toward neutralizing him, since he has no skeletons in his closet. Nice try, but it appears there are still plenty of people who listen to him and want to hear what he has to say. Count me among them.

]]> By: The Shadow http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-3/#comment-4115612 The Shadow Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:08:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115612 No Mark! Mr. Carter won't be back saying his words were taken out of context. He's right and you egg sucking rightwingers know it. Look if you want to spend every tax dollar the government forces from us on war, that's your mental problem. But I want my tax dollar to go toward educating our children, health care, military spending that makes sense and less government spying on US citizens. Individual like you (Chickenhawks) are always willing to fight with the blood or life of others. If you believe in the administration policy, then sign up and go to Iraq and fighting for what you believe in. Mr. Cheney avoided going to Viet Nam, but I'm sure you think he's right to send our kids off to war. That's typical of Republican thinking. I't ok be be a coward as long as you are a neo-con war monger who sends others to fight for no good reason. No Mark! Mr. Carter won’t be back saying his words were taken out of context. He’s right and you egg sucking rightwingers know it. Look if you want to spend every tax dollar the government forces from us on war, that’s your mental problem. But I want my tax dollar to go toward educating our children, health care, military spending that makes sense and less government spying on US citizens.

Individual like you (Chickenhawks) are always willing to fight with the blood or life of others. If you believe in the administration policy, then sign up and go to Iraq and fighting for what you believe in. Mr. Cheney avoided going to Viet Nam, but I’m sure you think he’s right to send our kids off to war. That’s typical of Republican thinking. I’t ok be be a coward as long as you are a neo-con war monger who sends others to fight for no good reason.

]]> By: Keith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-3/#comment-4115606 Keith Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:20:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115606 No joke: Cheney's Secret Service code name is "Edgar", as in Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy, meaning he is the ventriloquist and W is the dummy. No joke: Cheney’s Secret Service code name is “Edgar”, as in Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy, meaning he is the ventriloquist and W is the dummy.

]]> By: Politics50 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-3/#comment-4115603 Politics50 Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:25:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115603 Hopefully Carter does many more appearances in the media, especially American media. Long live Carter. Its a shame that his son, Jack did not win his bid for the Senate. Instead we got Ensign to represent Nevada. Next time! http://politics50.com/ Hopefully Carter does many more appearances in the media, especially American media. Long live Carter.

Its a shame that his son, Jack did not win his bid for the Senate. Instead we got Ensign to represent Nevada. Next time!

http://politics50.com/

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-3/#comment-4115600 Buckie Boy Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:56:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115600 Really, really nice to see Jake D., Rory, John Kerry, Ron posts deleted and them banned. Roger_Roger you sometimes post good counter posts, not often but at least you are moderately less insane and offensive than those others, that is why I give you less sh!t than the others. Daryll, well we just really get a big laugh out of you. You show us just how stupid religious people can be. Good going TP thanks for banning the A-Holes Buck Fush Really, really nice to see Jake D., Rory, John Kerry, Ron posts deleted and them banned.
Roger_Roger you sometimes post good counter posts, not often but at least you are moderately less insane and offensive than those others, that is why I give you less sh!t than the others.
Daryll, well we just really get a big laugh out of you. You show us just how stupid religious people can be.

Good going TP thanks for banning the A-Holes

Buck Fush

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-3/#comment-4115587 Lora Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:55:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115587 When someone as unpretentious and usually gentle as Carter says harsh words about someone, the come across as piercing truth. No need to play Mr. Nice Guy all the time any more, President Carter; please keep on speaking the truth. BTW, I noticed that there is a discrepancy of over 30 posts between what the "108 comments" mentioned above and what is really left here, which means some 30 trollish remarks have been deleted. Good work, trolls, if you can't smear a 12-year old boy enough, then move onto an octogenarian Nobel Peace Prize winner. When someone as unpretentious and usually gentle as Carter says harsh words about someone, the come across as piercing truth. No need to play Mr. Nice Guy all the time any more, President Carter; please keep on speaking the truth.
BTW, I noticed that there is a discrepancy of over 30 posts between what the “108 comments” mentioned above and what is really left here, which means some 30 trollish remarks have been deleted. Good work, trolls, if you can’t smear a 12-year old boy enough, then move onto an octogenarian Nobel Peace Prize winner.

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-3/#comment-4115581 Wayne Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:36:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115581 <em>And on The Daily Show tonight, Lynne Cheney gave Jon Stewart as little Darth Vader stauette. She called it “a family heirloom.” Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — October 11, 2007 @ 12:16 am</em> Gads, lmao..... Like I posted on the top thread: From Dick Cheney’s Theme song: ♫ ♪ Pleased to meet you Hope you guessed my name But whats puzzling you Is the nature of my game ♫ ♪ =/ And on The Daily Show tonight, Lynne Cheney gave Jon Stewart as little Darth Vader stauette. She called it “a family heirloom.”
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — October 11, 2007 @ 12:16 am

Gads, lmao…..

Like I posted on the top thread:

From Dick Cheney’s Theme song:

♫ ♪
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name
But whats puzzling you
Is the nature of my game
♫ ♪

=/

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-2/#comment-4115578 Zooey Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:31:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115578 <em>And on The Daily Show tonight, Lynne Cheney gave Jon Stewart as little Darth Vader stauette. She called it “a family heirloom.” Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — October 11, 2007 @ 12:16 am</em> God, it's sad how they think they're so clever. And on The Daily Show tonight, Lynne Cheney gave Jon Stewart as little Darth Vader stauette. She called it “a family heirloom.”
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — October 11, 2007 @ 12:16 am

God, it’s sad how they think they’re so clever.

]]> By: rehbock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-2/#comment-4115576 rehbock Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:27:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115576 Carter's record as President was mixed but he is the best ex-President we have everhad. He wasright on in his remarks. Carter’s record as President was mixed but he is the best ex-President we have everhad. He wasright on in his remarks.

]]> By: Wayne A. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-2/#comment-4115573 Wayne A. Schneider Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:16:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115573 <i>Thank you Pres. Carter for having the cahones to speak the truth about Darth Cheney unlike the lame ass Dem politicians today. Comment by km4 — October 10, 2007 @ 8:56 pm</i> And on The Daily Show tonight, Lynne Cheney gave Jon Stewart as little Darth Vader stauette. <b>She</b> called it "a family heirloom." Thank you Pres. Carter for having the cahones to speak the truth about Darth Cheney unlike the lame ass Dem politicians today.

Comment by km4 — October 10, 2007 @ 8:56 pm

And on The Daily Show tonight, Lynne Cheney gave Jon Stewart as little Darth Vader stauette. She called it “a family heirloom.”

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-2/#comment-4115569 ForTruth Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:54:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115569 Ph*ck the filter. Ph*ck the filter.

]]> By: dishwashing engineer http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/comment-page-2/#comment-4115567 dishwashing engineer Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:53:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/10/carter-cheney-is-a-disaster-for-our-country/#comment-4115567 We need to get Jimmy back on the American media circuit. Why is this on BBC?!?! Shouldn't be too hard since 'media' is synonymous with 'liberal'. Although, I find it strange that Lou Dobbs (who to me is a centrist, not even liberal), has been pushed to 1am or 3pm on the west coast, which are probably the most inconvenient times for any viewers that seem to be his target audience (blue collar/middle class). Or, according to BJunior, "Those that shall not be named". OMG I JUST HEARD THIS ON FOX NOISE!! "Smart, Driven, Influential - Dick Cheney - What will his legacy be?" It's a show they're airing. Please have a piece on thinkprogress after this airs. Looks like this weekend. *** Carter's vision is amazing. Here's a link to his whole "Energy Policy" speech from 1977. It's worth reading/rereading. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps_energy.html I wonder what happened to the solar panels Raygun removed. Probably thrown in the trash instead of donated to a Boys & Girls Club or some other fiscally responsible (or sensible) end. Did he ever give a <i>reason</i> for removing them? I'd love to read his reasoning... "I don't understand them.... they're square.... and my V.P. gave me a hundred bucks.. woot!" Americans need a seachange in consciousness. Conserve, tread lightly, and be compassionate. It probably doesn't matter much since Cheney and his crew are cutting the country apart at the knees. Cheney is a globalist-militant. Rolling Stone had a piece about his plans to attack Iran. Some republicans are wondering whether he and Bu$h are willing to sacrifice the Republican party as they try and build a legacy centered around the Middle East. Many seem to think, "definitely, yes". Bush Co. and Cronies will definitely leave a legacy - evil evil evil - THE WORST administration ever. We need to get Jimmy back on the American media circuit. Why is this on BBC?!?!

Shouldn’t be too hard since ‘media’ is synonymous with ‘liberal’. Although, I find it strange that Lou Dobbs (who to me is a centrist, not even liberal), has been pushed to 1am or 3pm on the west coast, which are probably the most inconvenient times for any viewers that seem to be his target audience (blue collar/middle class). Or, according to BJunior, “Those that shall not be named”.

OMG I JUST HEARD THIS ON FOX NOISE!!
“Smart, Driven, Influential – Dick Cheney – What will his legacy be?”
It’s a show they’re airing. Please have a piece on thinkprogress after this airs. Looks like this weekend.

***

Carter’s vision is amazing. Here’s a link to his whole “Energy Policy” speech from 1977. It’s worth reading/rereading.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps_energy.html

I wonder what happened to the solar panels Raygun removed. Probably thrown in the trash instead of donated to a Boys & Girls Club or some other fiscally responsible (or sensible) end. Did he ever give a reason for removing them? I’d love to read his reasoning… “I don’t understand them…. they’re square…. and my V.P. gave me a hundred bucks.. woot!”

Americans need a seachange in consciousness. Conserve, tread lightly, and be compassionate. It probably doesn’t matter much since Cheney and his crew are cutting the country apart at the knees. Cheney is a globalist-militant. Rolling Stone had a piece about his plans to attack Iran. Some republicans are wondering whether he and Bu$h are willing to sacrifice the Republican party as they try and build a legacy centered around the Middle East. Many seem to think, “definitely, yes”.

Bush Co. and Cronies will definitely leave a legacy – evil evil evil – THE WORST administration ever.

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