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Rush’s listeners flood VoteVets with hate mail.»

In the past two weeks, as the controversy over Rush Limbaugh’s “phony soldiers” comments unfolded, VoteVets.org has been at the forefront of pushing to hold Limbaugh accountable for disparaging pro-withdrawal soldiers. On MSNBC’s Countdown last Friday, VoteVets.org Vice President Brandon Friedman read aloud some of the hate mail the organization has received from Limbaugh’s listeners:

- “Do us all a favor and shoot yourself. You are a waste of human flesh.”

- “Tell the truth about Rush. You phony piece of [expletive].”

- “You traitorous bunch of [expletive] cowards.”

- “Rush Limbaugh is a great American, and you are a phony.”

Watch it:

Friedman has posted more hate mail from Rush’s listeners here.




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168 Responses to “Rush’s listeners flood VoteVets with hate mail.”

  1. Roger_Roger Says:

    This is wrong and I would expect Rush to say so.


  2. Leftside Annie Says:

    When Dittoheads Attack - a new special on Animal Planet.

    *eyeroll*


  3. Leftside Annie Says:

    This is wrong and I would expect Rush to say so.

    Comment by Roger_Roger — October 10, 2007 @ 11:51

    Oh, Roger…you don’t get out much, do you……?


  4. kindness Says:

    Yea….that’s Rush’s REAL Americans.

    Red Americans that know how to hate.


  5. Guido OBGYN Lover Says:

    I only know one dittohead.
    (That’s saying something since I live in Texas.)

    This dittohead is a bisexual drug addict who pickets abortion clinics and campaigned for Keyes.

    lol


  6. tom Says:

    Hey, roger_roger! Why on earth would you expect Limpballs to denounce those who are hate-mailing VoteVets?

    Hate is Limpballs’ stock-in-trade. He lives on hate. He provokes hate.

    Don’t hold your breath waiting for him to claim they are wrong. It won’t happen. Limpballs won’t do anything to upset his brain-dead, mind-numbed dildoheads.


  7. Leftside Annie Says:

    So….how is El Rushblob any different from Sean Insanity?

    They are BOTH haters.


  8. Peter C Says:

    Hate mail is another tactic of the right, it is fictional just like Roger_Roger and the rest of the trolls. It is designed to make you think that politics is a dangerous subject because your neighbor might be irrational and vituperative and unpleasant, just like the author of the mail. Hate mail is aimed specifically at limiting the public arena and encouraging apathy in public matters.

    The Right is vastly outnumbered; they must suppress the vote. However, real people are not so hateful, cruel, stupid, pigheaded and wrong-thinking. Most Americans are rational and moral, and it is not unsafe for us to engage them in dialogue.

    But, the American people can be scared into retreating from the public arena or into supporting “stength” over “wisdom”, and that is what Bush, Rush, and the authors of hate mail and troll posts are counting on.


  9. Guido OBGYN Lover Says:

    These Dittoheads think since we hate Rush and FOX that we actually like Democrats, too. Scary stuff.

    D-E-T-A-C-H-E-D-F-R-O-M-R-E-A-L-I-T-Y


  10. tom Says:

    Hey, godfather2!

    Where’s your sense of humor? Don’t you see the irony in the Limpballs “phony soldier” flap?

    Limpballs, Hannity and the rest of the rant-jockeys beat up John Kerry pretty good over his muffed punchline when he was suggesting that GDumbya didn’t learn in college and got us stuck in Iraq as a result. The rant-jockeys knew what he meant but used the gaffe to “paint him as unpatriotic”.

    Turn-about is fair play, sweetpea!


  11. Wayne Says:

    This is wrong and I would expect Rush to say so.

    Comment by Roger_Roger — October 10, 2007 @ 11:51 am

    Try calling his show to tell Rush. I got filtered and my question never made it on the show. He doesn’t really want to talk to a “real veteran”, he just wants to smear us.


    How do we know those were Rush listeners anyways?
    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 11:55 am

    Well the one message that stated :
    “Rush Limbaugh is a great American, and you are a phony.”
    Kind of gives that away.

    Keep trying to spin this away rory……


  12. detroitsuperfly Says:

    The GOP should be tried under the RICO act as a criminal organization!


  13. joe cantwell Says:

    This is wrong and I would expect Rush to say so.

    Comment by Roger_Roger — October 10, 2007 @ 11:51 am

    don’t hold your breathe.


  14. Vet Says:

    Comment by Peter C — October 10, 2007 @ 11:59 am
    ———————-
    Very, very, very well said!


  15. Wayne Says:

    The phony soldiers scandal is a phony scandal. The sad fact is that you people had to take what Rush said out of context in order to paint him as unpatriotic.
    Comment by Godfather2 — October 10, 2007 @ 11:57 am

    And what drugs are you taking to make yourself so delusional?


  16. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    This is wrong and I would expect Rush to say so.

    Comment by Roger_Roger — October 10, 2007 @ 11:51 am

    I predict that Rush will make the claim that these communications are really “loonies from the left trying to discredit me and my listeners” .


  17. NoOneYouKnow Says:

    I hope Vote Vets is taking the deluge of hate as a badge of honor. When Lush Rimjob needs to sic his flying monkeys on someone, you know that he’s plenty scared.


  18. Fan of Man Says:

    republicans, if you have hate in your heart… let it out.

    lol, just more troop supporters supporting troops….


  19. gummitch Says:

    Well, we have at least TWO actual Limbaugh listeners posting here. Have you seen either of us using expletives? How do we know those were Rush listeners anyways? “Great American” sounds like a Hannity listener to me.

    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 11:55 am

    Why not follow the link in the post to DailyKos and read some of the hatemail they received before you spout off this garbage? Get back to us after you’re read them with your absurd defense of dittoheads. I’m sure Rush is going to tell them to stop with the hate mail. Riiiight. Just about the time he admits to his giant collection of rubber underwear.


  20. hanshiro Says:

    However, real people are not so hateful, cruel, stupid, pigheaded and wrong-thinking..Comment by Peter C — October 10, 2007 @ 11:59 am

    Sorry, Peter…the fact that Bush got votes belies your claim about ‘real people.’


  21. Wayne Says:

    I’ve listened to Rush every day since the “phony soldiers” comment ….
    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 12:08 pm

    Why am I not surprised at all?


  22. DigDug Says:


    I’ve listened to Rush every day since the “phony soldiers” comment and I didn’t hear him “sic his flying monkeys” on anyone; he also doesn’t sound that scared to me. Your “Lush Rimjob” comment, however, sounds pretty hateful.

    Comment by Rory

    Oh, I think the right is definitely scared right now. They were trounced in the 06 election, and now they see themselves loosing the support of the troops and the vets. They are clearly becoming pesperate.

    And the ‘flying monkeys’ comment is clearly a metaphor. And yes he is.


  23. katy Says:

    the most telling part of this is such a simple thing…
    all limpballs had to do was admit (’cause you KNOW he knows) that he’d goofed, made the comment in a thoughtless rant, it was just a reaction, and agreement and affirmation - and repetition - of the caller’s words “phony soldiers”…

    just a quick “folks, i goofed… sorry about that” and it would’ve
    been over…

    but, NOOOOOOOOOOooo… limpballs’ ego got the best of him…

    In almost every list Pride is considered the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins, and indeed the ultimate source from which the others arise. -wiki
    .


  24. Nevar Says:

    The “real people” who voted for Bush were simply the fearful ones.
    They bought into the fear the Bushcos terrorized them with.


  25. Mark @ News Corpse Says:

    Why would Rush ever apologize for or denounce these letters? He is probably encouraging them. There is probably a link on his premium web site for members to send letters are are pre-written.

    Both Rush and Malkin have a history of promoting harassment by publishing photos and home addresses of their opponents.

    Look up “phony soldiers” in the RushopediA.


  26. Wayne Says:

    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 12:13 pm

    it spins and spins and spins like a top
    Even when dizzy, it never stops.


  27. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    Mine eyes have read the postings of the neocons, uninformed;
    They are trampling on the bedrock on which this land of ours was formed;
    They hath loosed the power grabbing and the treasury they’ve stormed;
    Their lies are marching on.
    Rory! Rory! Sock it to ya! Rory! Rory! Sock it to ya!
    Rory! Rory! Sock it to ya! The lies keep marching on.


  28. Wayne Says:

    Wrong again, Mark.

    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 12:18 pm

    And what facts do you have to back up your claim that Mark was wrong?
    Lets see them.


  29. DigDug Says:


    Are you so sure that the Democrats actually took control of Congress?

    Comment by Rory

    Hehe.. yeah, they did, it just didn’t make much difference.

    The american people are desperate for change, and are turning to the Democratic party in droves. The sad thing is that the Democrats will only bring more of the same. There are some good Democrats who would change things if they could, but sadly they are outnumbered by other less savory Democrats who will only bring more of what the Republicans brought. But once the Democrats are in power, then we’ll start to work on putting their feet to the fire and getting these idiots to actually do the will of the american people. Something there is really no hope of ever getting out of the Republicans.


  30. Wayne Says:

    I AM GOING TO ‘VOTE VETS.ORG’ AND JOIN IMMEDIATELY!1
    ANYONE ELSE CARE TO JOIN?
    roger-roger?rory?ara?
    Comment by GoTFreedumb — October 10, 2007 @ 12:19 pm

    i’ve been a member since the site went up.


  31. upside99 Says:

    I AM GOING TO ‘VOTE VETS.ORG’ AND JOIN IMMEDIATELY!1
    ANYONE ELSE CARE TO JOIN?
    roger-roger?rory?ara?
    Comment by GoTFreedumb — October 10, 2007 @ 12:19 pm

    I am a member of Vietnam Vets Against the War and threw my medals over the WH fence and have given money to VoteVet.org.

    It will be fun to see what happens in 08 when about 60% of the current Active military and the recent veterans cast their votes against the Repugs. Which is what Gen. Wesley Clark is predicting.


  32. hanshiro Says:

    Let’s examine who Rush’s fans are defending: A service-dodging drug addict. A lying drug addict at that; all the while he was using, he was advocating on air for tougher penalties for drug addicts. (criminal consequences for which he personally did not pay, remember. IOIYAR) A service dodging, lying, hypocritical drug addict. Uh huh..

    Then he gets caught with mislabeled viagra (another crime)…on an all male fishing trip to the Dominican Republic (known for their underage prostitutes among other things.) Gosh, ditto-heads, when you look for a hero, you sure pick a winner…


  33. hellinabucket Says:

    Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian — October 10, 2007 @ 12:20 pm

    I like it.


  34. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    I’m listening to Rush right now, and he stated in no uncertain terms that any true listener would not be vulgar or hateful.

    Which does not equate with labeling the mail sent to VoteVets as vulgar or hateful, denouncing it, or requesting that the pro-war discontinue the mailings.


  35. rocks911 Says:

    hanshiro,

    Well played sir.


  36. Wayne Says:

    Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian — October 10, 2007 @ 12:20 pm

    Hear, hear!!

    Good one =)


  37. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    hellinabucket

    Thank you [slight bow].


  38. gummitch Says:

    I’m listening to Rush right now, and he stated in no uncertain terms that any true listener would not be vulgar or hateful. GO RUSH!!!

    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 12:16 pm

    Why not tear yourself away from the radio long enough to read the sampling of hate mail? Do you think those people are “phony listeners”?

    Rush is trying to avoid taking any responsibility after the fact for the results of his characterizations of organizations like VoteVets.org. When he goes on record as criticizing those phony listeners for slandering the vets, let us know.

    And go read the hate mail.


  39. gummitch Says:

    Again with the personal attacks, hanshiro?

    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 12:27 pm

    Care to point out where he’s wrong? Care to criticize Michelle Malikin for her personal attacks?


  40. Wayne Says:

    No thanks, GoTFreedumb. I disagree with VoteVets but I would fight to the death for the right to fight them to the death.
    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 12:26 pm

    You want to fight a veteran to the death? Are you insane?

    TP ban this idiot troll


  41. lefty Says:

    This is wrong and I would expect Rush to say so.

    How much do you want to wager? I’ll bet the house on this one.


  42. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    I disagree with VoteVets but I would fight to the death for the right to fight them to the death.

    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 12:26 pm

    “In this corner, weighing in at a lean, mean 180 pounds of muscle from VoteVets is Joe Soldier. And in this corner, …what the…um…where’d she go?”


  43. hanshiro Says:

    I’m listening to Rush right now, and he stated in no uncertain terms that any true listener would not be vulgar or hateful. GO RUSH!!!

    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 12:16 pm

    Poor Rory…Rory, (I’ll type slowly for you,) this is called a “fallacy.” It’s known as the “no true scottsman” fallacy and is used by the likes of hypocritical institutions to distance themselves from their more deplorable members of society who actually act out what they hear on programs like Limbaugh’s. As with, say, the church which says, “No REAL christian would..blah, blah…

    Rush trots out the same fallacy, and it’s just as weak and cowardly a rhetorical device.


  44. lefty Says:

    GO RUSH!!!

    Are you f-ing kidding me? GO RUSH?!? What color pom-poms do you put on for Rush?


  45. DigDug Says:


    I disagree with VoteVets but I would fight to the death for the right to fight them to the death.

    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 12:26 pm

    You want to fight our vets to the death?


  46. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    hanshiro

    Kind of like “no real soldier would …”?


  47. Buckie Boy Says:

    Followed the link and read the emails from the neanderthals, they were, mmmm, not the sharpest tools in the shed, for sure. Sorta like our trolls here, Rory (jake d) comes to mind first and formost as our most lamest of trolls.
    Jake D. got kicked this morning then, tada, Rory shows up, mmm.

    Ignore the trolls please

    Buck Fush


  48. Spudge Boy Says:

    Regardless, no one should be hateful or vulgar (see above).

    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 12:30 pm

    So, you think I should be polite to you while you support the destruction of our country?

    Fu*k you.


  49. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    What color pom-poms do you put on (do you mean “wave”) for Rush?

    I would vote for “cowardly yellow”.


  50. lefty Says:

    I disagree with VoteVets but I would fight to the death for the right to fight them to the death.

    I’m gonna say you would lose that one. Despite Rush’s assertions that they’re not “real” soldiers I’m gonna say they have a bit more experience in actual fights. You could probably outtype them, however.

    GO RUSH!!!


  51. hanshiro Says:

    hanshiro Kind of like “no real soldier would …”?

    Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian — October 10, 2007

    Oh yah, he trots it out a lot.


  52. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    The GOP should be tried under the RICO act as a criminal organization!

    Comment by detroitsuperfly — October 10, 2007 @ 12:01 pm

    I’ve been saying that for months.


  53. Nevar Says:

    Sad Rory.

    Defending Rush Limbaugh.

    Pity her three children.
    They risk being left behind, with no health care.


  54. lefty Says:

    GO RUSH!!!

    Why are you not embarassed by this? I’m embarassed for you.


  55. gummitch Says:

    I already have, gummitch. Based on my interaction with actual Rush listeners, I think it is a fair question whether those people are “phony listeners” or not. Regardless, no one should be hateful or vulgar (see above).

    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 12:30 pm

    You’ve hung out with thousands of dittoheads? Wow.

    Unbelievable.


  56. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    That t was sarcasm. You’ve never watched Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert?

    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 12:34 pm

    1. They’re smart. You’re not.

    2. They how to use sarcasm to make a point. You don’t.

    3. They actually have “a point” to make…


  57. Clumberfeet Says:

    The laddy doth protest too much.
    The right wing slime machine is starting to act like a cornered animal.


  58. MCMetal Says:

    I’m listening to Rush right now, and he stated in no uncertain terms that any true listener would not be vulgar or hateful. GO RUSH!!!

    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 12:16 pm

    Yeah, because we all know there is nothing vulgar or hateful about flapping your gross porcine arms around while your man-boobs shake to make fun of a Parkinson’s victim , is there ?


  59. rehbock Says:

    It is part of the First Amendmet and or tradition to tolerate even that speech which is wrong foolish and mean spirited. It is also our right to ignore or condemn those who spout it. Rush and Move On can say what they esmt and I invite them to. I think we have at least one phony soldier, our psychopath in chief and his vice. I think that the General has distorted the facfs and those who accept him are harming ou country in the long term. If that offends the dittoheads too bad. If General Petraeus is too sensitive to put up with the obvious play on his name that is too bad. I suspect he had been called that often in private over a long time. If Rush thinks he is unfairly misquoted that too is to bad. I suspect that his over the top remarks have often made him a target for such. The General has the right to change his name and Rush has the right to change his style. Both should be proud and glad that in spite all the efforts to curtail our freedoms and all the failures of our Country we are still free to offend each other. They are respectively empowered to protect and exercise that very freedom of speech that still distinguishes us from many other parts of the world. In spite of Bush and Cheney they are still free to speak their minds. If they are not speaking what they really believe that is their shame but their right, too.


  60. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    This is wrong and I would expect Rush to say so.

    Comment by Roger_Roger — October 10, 2007 @ 11:51 am

    Yes, he should, and has he?

    Waaaainting… tap… tap… still waiting… tap… tap… **Yawn**

    Tap… tap… tap…


  61. hterrya Says:

    Hehe.. yeah, they did, it just didn’t make much difference.
    Comment by DigDug — October 10, 2007 @ 12:21 pm

    Actually, the Democratic majority in both Houses did make a difference.

    Can you just imagine what the current corrupt, crooked president and his cronies (ESPECIALLY SiCKO DiCKO) would be doing to this country if the results had been reversed?

    I shudder to think about it!


  62. old_hack Says:

    Mike Gravel EXPOSES the Reptilian illuminatti

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSeEwrwKPtw


  63. Uncle Ho Says:

    GoTFreedumb; I’ll join VoteVets. Why not?

    The hate-mailers are most likely like their idol, Rush Limpdick, who are crass cowardly draft-dodgers who never served a day in the military.

    The biggest flag wavers are the ones who declined to serve themselves.


  64. Nevar Says:

    “I’m listening to Rush right now, and he stated in no uncertain terms that any true listener would not be vulgar or hateful.”
    Comment by Rory

    This would imply that a lot of his listeners are, well…. phony


  65. missmolly Says:

    I’m listening to Rush right now, and he stated in no uncertain terms that any true listener would not be vulgar or hateful. GO RUSH!!!

    Comment by Rory — October 10, 2007 @ 12:16 pm

    Why does Rush think that? Does he think that hatefulness should be reserved for him alone?

    Or perhaps Rush just doesn’t see that what he and his listeners say as hateful. Was his criticism of Michael J. Fox and the effects of his Parkinson’s hateful? Is his use of terms like “feminazi”, “Osama Obama”, and “Nazi Pelosi” hateful? Is it hateful to insult and discredit everyone who states a viewpoint opposite Rush’s?

    I would be very interested to hear Rush’s own definition of “hateful”.


  66. Nevar Says:

    Sad Rush

    With listeners like his, who needs enemies….


  67. RUCerious Says:

    Shows the true nature of the hillbilly cretins that comprise Rush’s base.


  68. hanshiro Says:

    “I’m listening to Rush right now, and he stated in no uncertain terms that any true listener would not be vulgar or hateful.”
    Comment by Rory

    This would imply that a lot of his listeners are, well…. phony

    Comment by Nevar — October 10, 2007 @ 12:43 pm

    Going…going…IT’S GONE! Outta th’ park ladies and gentlemen!


  69. LividLib Says:

    From John E., a Rush ass kisser:

    “…like it or not, we may have to resort to the same tactics as used back in 1860 when this country went to war with itself, North vs South, only this time it’s Conservative vs Liberal and I’m ready to join in as soon as the fireworks start.”

    I like your way of thinking, John E-boy. That’s exactly what this country needs, i.e. to be purged of neocons such as yourself and General Limpdick. Truly a cause worth fighting for! Just remember, this time you sorry-ass cowards won’t have anybody to fight the war for you.


  70. Nevar Says:

    So, now Rush will have to differentiate between his true listeners,
    who are never vulgar or mean…..

    and the people who listen, and call in on his behalf,
    who can’t be true listeners, because they are vulgar and mean.

    I’m thinking this will be tricky for him, guessing he could now only claim 50% at best, of the audience he claimed before having to separate them into the two groups.

    (And I’m being kind by giving him half.)


  71. lefty Says:

    Comment by rehbock

    You make a good point but the problem is that the rightwing has become so radicalized that it’s no longer possible to shame them at all. They’ve been indoctrinated by propagandists like Rush to never feel any shame about who they are, what they say or what they do. Shame is a society’s greatest tool in establishing what is acceptable and what is not and the rightwing no longer accepts anyone else telling them they can’t or shouldn’t be doing something. And that makes them EXTREMELY dangerous.


  72. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    In the past two weeks, Rush has compared a Vet with shrapnel in his head to a suicide bomber, called vets who disagree with the mission “phony soldiers,” and, this week, is beating up on a 12-year old boy for having a little bit of healthcare support from the government.

    Rush-fans, at long last, have you no shame?


  73. RUCerious Says:

    Colonel, that would be a negatory, sir.


  74. stewarjt Says:

    What, exactly what makes Mr. Limbaugh a “great American?”


  75. Nevar Says:

    what makes Mr. Limbaugh a “great American?”

    Comment by stewarjt

    Air time.


  76. Wayne Says:

    Bye, Bye rory, we won’t miss you


  77. bernard quatermass Says:

    “What, exactly what makes Mr. Limbaugh a ‘great American?’”

    Like GWB, he demonstrates the truth of the American dream: that you _can_ achieve your vision of wealth and fame despite an utter lack of substantial ability or charisma or even personal hygiene.

    Besides, a certain strain of Americans seem to laud vigorous blowhards who have closed minds, mean streaks and never apologize. It is inexplicable to me.


  78. Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver Says:

    Rush Limbaugh is a talented and courageous individual who can grow pimples on his ass at will, especially every time he comes within 100 feet of a military recruiting office.


  79. Wayne Says:

    Rush-fans, at long last, have you no shame?

    Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — October 10, 2007 @ 12:57 pm

    To have shame, they must first possess a Conscience.


  80. moondancer Says:

    The turning point of public opinion for the Vietnam war was the emergence of the VVAW. The reactionary right handlers fear the vets more than anything else. The bloated junkies’ words ring hollow when they’re only supported by the fringe 30 percenters, and scorned by those who served honorably.


  81. lefty Says:

    Folks, we have reached the point at which the rightwing will deny saying things which we have recordings and transcripts of. You know, evidence. These are truly astonishing times.


  82. Wayne Says:

    “In this corner, weighing in at a lean, mean 180 pounds of muscle from VoteVets is Joe Soldier. And in this corner, …what the…um…where’d she go?”
    Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian — October 10, 2007 @ 12:30 pm

    rory has left the building, screaming like a ninny

    lmao =)


  83. LividLib Says:

    what makes Mr. Limbaugh a “great American?”

    Comment by stewarjt

    A great appetite for OxyContin and Viagra?


  84. Shayne Says:

    Good point moondancer, any of us who can afford to send even a small donation to votevets should do so.


  85. Coffins Draped with a Flag Says:

    what makes Mr. Limbaugh a “great American?”

    Comment by stewarjt

    A great appetite for OxyContin and Viagra?

    Comment by LividLib

    Hey… where would “big pharma” profits be if it wasn’t for Rush and his drug habits. Down the drain, that’s where.


  86. Nevar Says:

    Besides, a certain strain of Americans seem to laud vigorous blowhards who have closed minds, mean streaks and never apologize. It is inexplicable to me.

    Comment by bernard quatermass

    Once upon a time, personas like Limbaugh were used as a demonstration to society of exactly what not to be like.
    They were a parody of dysfunction and anti-social behavior.

    “Archie Bunker” was one of the last well known examples.

    Sadly, scarily as well, the corporate militarist establishment has cultivated and dumbed down its target audience, to where the behavior of Rush and his ilk is not only justified but encouraged as well.


  87. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    lefty, that’s just part of the evidence that the modern conservative movement has run its course and is basically over. They’ve lapsed into demonstratably insane behavior. Did you catch any of the Repub “debate” last night. They sound like a bunch of crackpots.

    Examples:

    Huckabee answers a question about the dubious “fair tax” by aggressively pointing out that “drug dealers and prostitutes pay no taxes!!!”

    McCaine answers a question about the fairness of the tax code by saying “Of course it’s fair…. and we have to completely overhaul the entire system.”

    Romney, speaking in Michigan, says, “we’ve got a 1-state recession, right here in Michigan.”

    Crackpots, all, and so, their followers are also crackpots.


  88. Shayne Says:

    “Archie Bunker” was one of the last well known examples.

    Sadly, scarily as well, the corporate militarist establishment has cultivated and dumbed down its target audience, to where the behavior of Rush and his ilk is not only justified but encouraged as well.

    Comment by Nevar — October 10, 2007 @ 1:18 pm

    That and I just watched Fox News for the first time and had no idea that they were so blatant in their hate speech. When a “news outlet” speaks in such a small minded, ignorant manner it makes this kind of venom much more acceptable to the sycophants who watch it.


  89. Coffins Draped with a Flag Says:

    hey raven… never thought I would miss the sarcasm of using Archie Bunker and his racist, sexist, ignorant speach . Then again, Rush does have that stupid Archie Bunker “aura” about him.


  90. Coffins Draped with a Flag Says:

    FOX News is nothing more than Murdock’s tool to spread the GOP’s propaganda. One could say that Rush is nothing more than another propagandist.


  91. Krazny Says:

    Comment by LividLib — October 10, 2007 @ 12:47 pm

    I have seen conservatives voice their opinion, that killing liberals would be great fun, and would “clean” the country. Seems like someone in the 1930’s and 40’s said similar stuff about a certain religious/ethnic group.


  92. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    … you know, evidence. These are truly astonishing times.

    Comment by lefty — October 10, 2007 @ 1:11 pm

    It’s called “psychic dissonance”, Lefty.

    I’m expecting Rush’s head to explode any day now.


  93. dim wit Says:

    Comment by LividLib — October 10, 2007 @ 12:47 pm

    As a liberal, this is the exact reason I support the 2nd Amendment.


  94. Nevar Says:

    “Then again, Rush does have that stupid Archie Bunker “aura” about him.”

    Comment by Coffins Draped with a Flag

    “Archies stupid aura” was what told the audience that this is an example of ignorant behavior.
    Rush pretends to have intelligence because he’s allowed to believe that what he says is real.
    I use the term allowed, because down deep even Rush knows that evil is evil.
    But, hey, make enough money, do enough painkillers, it’s OK…


  95. bilbobaggins Says:

    Sad Rory.
    Defending Rush Limbaugh.
    Pity her three children.
    They risk being left behind, with no health care.
    Comment by Nevar

    Now, that would definitely be just desserts! That karma is a tricky thing. She’s going to get it back in spades one day. Sad thing is, she won’t recognize it for what it is.


  96. stormy Says:

    “The turning point of public opinion for the Vietnam war was the emergence of the VVAW.”
    Comment by moondancer — October 10, 2007 @ 1:10 pm

    I’m not totally disagreeing with you, but it’s my belief that the real “straw breaking the camel’s back” was the Walter Cronkite moment. It convinced many, my relatives for example, who were starting to question the war, that it was OK to jump to the anti-war side. It was no longer a matter of supporting the war was not supporting America. It’s my belief we NEED another Walter moment.


  97. Uncle Ho Says:

    comment by Krazny A 1:26 pm

    Not much difference between 1930s German Nazis and 2000s American Republicans, is there?


  98. Uncle Ho Says:

    Walter Cronkite; where are you? Your country needs you, again.


  99. gummitch Says:

    I’m not totally disagreeing with you, but it’s my belief that the real “straw breaking the camel’s back” was the Walter Cronkite moment. It convinced many, my relatives for example, who were starting to question the war, that it was OK to jump to the anti-war side. It was no longer a matter of supporting the war was not supporting America. It’s my belief we NEED another Walter moment.

    Comment by stormy — October 10, 2007 @ 1:37 pm

    Yeah, but . . . we don’t have Walter Cronkites any more. We don’t have journalists that are trustworthy and we don’t have that limited source of information that characterized the 60s. If you want to get your news from the media, you can dial up the source that will tell you what you want to hear. The people that really need to hear skepticism about the occupation aren’t going to hear it, because they’ve got their radios and tv’s pointed at Fox and Rush.


  100. bilbobaggins Says:

    Well, I just made a donation to Vote Vets. Previously I made a donation to moveon.org. Rush and his ilk are turning out to be a money maker for progressive organizations.


  101. Jason M. Hendler Says:

    Once again, Olberman et al continue to perpetuate lies per their preferred template. No one, who has listened to Rush regularly, believes that he does not support the troops. Anyone who had been listening to Rush over the last few months understood what he meant when he said phony soldiers.

    To hear this wimp whine about hatemail is just laughable, which causes me to question his manhood. Only a pussy screams victim when intentionally joining the fight.


  102. lefty Says:

    Going after this kid is just another diversion from real questions and debate. Whether or not anyone put this kid up to it, whether or not the family has a nice car or make whatever salary is irrelevant to the question of whether this program has value and is worth paying for. Who cares about the backstory of this kid? No one except the rabid 30-Percenters who desperately do not want any government program to work or help ANYONE.

    http://www.leftopia.blogpost.com


  103. The Shadow Says:

    Oh Roger Roger, you are too caught up in rightwing politics to see that what Rush said was dead wrong. I don’t care who he thinks he is, he has NO right to criticize our veterans who are fighting, getting terribly wounded and dying for our freedom. People like Rush Limbaugh are hate mongors who use this type of thing to get people like you twisted so you can’t think for yourself.

    Remember how the Republicans have used our troops by saying that anyone who disagrees with them is against them. Well what you do call what Rush said. He’s tried to deny he said it, then he started attacking them again rather than say, he misspoke or simply made a mistake. This man has no shame and if you agree with him, you don’t either. I’m a veteran and this makes my blood boil. What has happened to the Republican Party?


  104. Veteranlib56 Says:

    Just a bit off topic but we can all use the humor. Brave New Films making fun of Faux Buisiness News.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zt0wVZz9xg


  105. lefty Says:

    oops wrong thread lol


  106. stormy Says:

    “Yeah, but . . . we don’t have Walter Cronkites any more.”
    Comment by gummitch — October 10, 2007 @ 1:46 pm

    With that, I agree. It’s sad that the most honest “journalists” we have today is Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, we’re in very sad shape. What we need is real journalists, NOT newsreaders.


  107. Leftside Annie Says:

    Once again, Olberman et al continue to perpetuate lies per their preferred template. No one, who has listened to Rush regularly, believes that he does not support the troops. Anyone who had been listening to Rush over the last few months understood what he meant when he said phony soldiers.

    To hear this wimp whine about hatemail is just laughable, which causes me to question his manhood. Only a pussy screams victim when intentionally joining the fight.

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 10, 2007 @ 1:51 pm

    Aw, come on, now, Jason!! Rush supports the troops all right:

    THE ONES WHO AGREE WTIH HIM.

    The ones who don’t agree are “phony soldiers,” aren’t they…?


  108. Wayne Says:

    To hear this wimp whine about hatemail is just laughable, which causes me to question his manhood. Only a pussy screams victim when intentionally joining the fight.
    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 10, 2007 @ 1:51 pm

    Are you calling the veterans who are members of Vote Vet pussies?

    I happen to be a supporting member and I just reported your post.


  109. Leftside Annie Says:

    Yeah, and those “phony soldiers” are fair game, aren’t they? Even if they served bravely and came home with a brain injury!!

    YAY RUSH!!

    /sarc off


  110. stormy Says:

    “To hear this wimp whine about hatemail is just laughable, which causes me to question his manhood. Only a pussy screams victim when intentionally joining the fight.”

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — October 10, 2007 @ 1:51 pm

    Gee sounds alot like Rush playing the victim card. Channel much?


  111. erock Says:

    Based on my experience with Rush listeners, from my childhood in the south to my perusing of this latest batch of hatemail, it strikes me that their fear and anger arises from their “team” view of American politics. They don’t really have an interest in politics per se, but they do know that they want their “team” to prevail in the end. This is also reflected in their undying support of failing American foreign policy. Regardless of the harm that America may be doing, to other nations and to itself, they just want us to “win” whatever the cost may be. So, predicatably, when they see their “team” losing as the Republican party and American policy in Iraq are arguably doing at the moment, they lash out with bilious and hateful rhetoric. Those that do follow politics may not even support conservative policies or the war in Iraq, but they’ve already taken their side and to have that side lose at this point would be embarassing and hurtful to them.


  112. bilbobaggins Says:

    Gee sounds alot like Rush playing the victim card. Channel much?
    Comment by stormy

    No kidding. It has actually been very amusing watching Limbaugh whine about how everyone is telling lies about him.


  113. Xisithrus Says:

    WOW they hate people that have served? When Rush got a deferment not too?


  114. Leftside Annie Says:

    Erock: that’s why they’re called “right wing authoritarian FOLLOWERS.”

    It’s what they do: follow.


  115. bilbobaggins Says:

    I have a question for all the Right Wing Loon Rush apologizers on this thread. Why is Rush refusing to have Brian McGough on this show. You remember Brian, the Iraq vet who has shrapnel in his brain who Rush compared to a suicide bomber? Also, why is Rush refusing to have Jon Stolz on his show? What is Rush afraid of.


  116. Xisithrus Says:

    Rush is pulling a DARVO just like I said he would, poor pilonidal cyst man couldn’t servem but he really wanted to thats why he went to the doctor to get an excuse..Wehhh Wahhhh.

    The new GOP hit solo:

    ¶¶ Knock two times on the stall door -
    if you want me!! ¶¶

    ¶¶ Twice on the pipes - if the
    answer is no!¶¶

    BTW I see that Rush is losing listeners, hes down to 13.6 million from his inflated 30 million talking point!!


  117. stormy Says:

    “What is Rush afraid of.”

    Comment by bilbobaggins — October 10, 2007 @ 2:17 pm

    The truth perhaps?


  118. celtic cynic Says:

    Right. Rush Limbaugh is a great American piece of shit.


  119. Xisithrus Says:

    It’s what they do: follow.
    Comment by Leftside Annie

    The are like scared little children latching one to daddy figures legs and wont let go for fear the bid bad boogey man hidig in Tora Bora will get them like Freddy Kreuger!!

    Protect me deferment daddy!! Make some big words on the Ray diddy-o and scare that bad man osama away and make those real soldiers leave you alone!! WeHHHh WaHhHhh!


  120. Xisithrus Says:

    Aren’t these comments typical of the comments by progressives you see here at TP?

    Comment by CaptainMantastic

    Naw, I dont ever make death remarks nor have I called anyone a traitor. Chickenhawk, yes, coward, yes, defement daddy, well hell yeh!


  121. Xisithrus Says:

    Comment by CaptainMantastic — October 10, 2007

    Say, is your moniker misspelled, or am I reading mendastic wrongly?


  122. stormy Says:

    “Aren’t these comments typical of the comments by progressives you see here at TP?”

    Comment by CaptainMantastic — October 10, 2007 @ 2:23 pm

    Did you actually READ the comments at Free Republic? Had you read and comprehended them, I’m pretty sure that this comment by you wouldn’t have been made….never mind of course you would have typed this nonsense.

    The time for rolling over is DONE!


  123. GregM Says:

    Anyone who had been listening to Rush over the last few months understood what he meant when he said phony soldiers.
    Comment by Jason M. Hendler

    Yes, it was plain as day what he meant. The”drive by” media doesn’t talk to the real soldiers when accessing Iraq, they only talk to the phony soldiers who have the audacity to disagree with the policy. You don’t have to be Einstein to figure out what Rush was saying. He could not be more clear.


  124. Lefty Patriot Says:

    ren’t these comments typical of the comments by progressives you see here at TP?

    Comment by CaptainMantastic — October 10, 2007 @ 2:23 pm

    Links, or are you just another rightwing liar?


  125. Lefty Patriot Says:

    Please tell me your kidding?! Honest? Bipartisan? They are comedians pretending to be journalist. It’s a schtick. You must be very young if you even believe they are jouralists. Journalist are news writers. News readers are Katy Couric.

    Comment by Johnny Swank — October 10, 2007 @ 2:36 pm

    Oooh, you are now beginning to see how the right has destroyed journalism to such a degree that the only bipartisan journalism abailable is being done by comedians, who happen to be more observant and more honest than all the corporate whores calling themselves reporters. You must be very stupid if you don’t think Stewart and Colbert aren’t far more accurate and relevant than any of the stooges you listen to.


  126. Lefty Patriot Says:

    You don’t have to be Einstein to figure out what Rush was saying. He could not be more clear.

    Comment by GregM — October 10, 2007 @ 2:30 pm

    that’s true, his disrespect and hatred for the American soldiers doing the job he should be doing is as clear as can be. His disdain for the American working class, from which comes most soldiers, is also as clear as can be, as he skirts his drug abuse and his hypocrisy to attack the very people allowing him his extravagant, sinful, greedy lifestyle.


  127. stormy Says:

    “Please tell me your kidding?! Honest? Bipartisan? They are comedians pretending to be journalist. It’s a schtick. You must be very young if you even believe they are jouralists. Journalist are news writers. News readers are Katy Couric.”

    Comment by Johnny Swank — October 10, 2007 @ 2:36 pm

    I’m guessing sarcasm is lost on such a binary thinker as you. Of course they’re comedians. My father is a retired managing editor of serveral different small city newspapers. In other words a Journalist.

    Newsreaders are pretty much what we have in the MSM today.

    Young? Well yes, you’re right. I’m young, the guy shaving in the mirror every day is 55, but I’m young.

    Today’s “journalists” are either newsreaders or talking heads. Period! More interested in cocktail parties than getting to the bottom line of the story (with some exceptions).

    You might want to actually try and get to know your opponent before making broad-brush accusations. Just saying.


  128. Lefty Patriot Says:

    Comment by Johnny Swank — October 10, 2007 @ 2:43 pm

    Wow, did you get some of rush’s Oxy? Because that was a screed of lies worthy of Bush, so completely insane and wrong, and unproveable. most soldiers realize that Rush is a tool of the rightwing, as they have become; the difference being that the wrong tools are being killed.


  129. Lefty Patriot Says:

    Aren’t these comments typical of the comments by progressives you see here at TP?

    Comment by CaptainMantastic — October 10, 2007 @ 2:23 pm

    Interestingly enough, not about veterans. That’s reserved for the chickenhawk right, the keyboard warriors, the fat, lazy and slow who hide behind the rights the ones they slime fight for. There is no hypocrisy quite like that of a rightard coward; it’s the benchmark, really, comparable maybe to Benedict Arnold’s.


  130. Zimzone Says:

    Rush is to America what Marcos was to the Philippines.

    I’m waiting for his head to explode live on the radio.

    ‘Cleanup on 1250mhz’!


  131. MapleStreet Says:

    As I remember it, there is an unsubstantiated urban legend that the Nam vets coming back had folks spitting on them. While it is undocumented, it demonstrates the lack of support many received when they came back.

    Trying to avoid this and the resulting wounds, the left has gone under forms of “I don’t support the war but I support the troops.”

    Now the Right is figuratively spitting on vetrans and coming close to making illegal threats against them.

    Why do you hate our troops ? Is it the conservatives or the liberals that support our troops and suggest that they should get ample recovery time and proper protective gear ?


  132. stormy Says:

    “The New York Times is a perfect example. How does the right destroy them? By not reading the garbage they call journalism? Do you really believe that they are partisan? If so, you need help.”

    A perfect example of what, exactly? “they are partisan? “. Sorry to burst your bubble there Johnny (and you asked how young I was?). News is NOT, in case you missed it, NOT partisan. It is supposed to be facts. Rememeber you high school journalism class: who, what, when, where and why?

    On another thing, what do you consider to be journalism?


  133. Leftside Annie Says:

    “Facts are stupid things.” —- Ronald Reagan

    That’s what the rightwing thinks of facts.


  134. barfly Says:

    “90% of millitary vote republican according to elctions. Fact.”

    Comment by Johnny Swank

    Wrong. The military doesn’t collect voting data. The best you’ll find is a suspect Military Times poll.


  135. stormy Says:

    “Fact. 90% of journalist vote democrat according to surveys done. 90% of millitary vote republican according to elctions. Fact.”
    Johnny Swank

    Being retired military myself (Vietnam through and including Gulf War I), I would REALLY like to see the proof of that statement. Link or go away.

    Also, I’m still waiting for the answer to my previous question. Got to run a couple of errands but I will be back in 1/2 hour or less. That should give to you time to find the latest talking points.


  136. barfly Says:

    “Fact. 90% of journalist vote democrat according to surveys done.”

    Surveys done a decade ago. You really should keep current.


  137. barfly Says:

    “All but two of them spent time in Iraq. The subject about Rush came up, and ALL of them said the understood what Rush was refrencing about and agreed with him.”

    And I’ll bet you phrased the question to be as neutral as possible, didn’t you? [Snerk!]


  138. upside99 Says:

    Being retired military myself (Vietnam through and including Gulf War I), I would REALLY like to see the proof of that statement. Link or go away.

    Also, I’m still waiting for the answer to my previous question. Got to run a couple of errands but I will be back in 1/2 hour or less. That should give to you time to find the latest talking points.

    Comment by stormy — October 10, 2007 @ 3:07 pm

    Stormy, I also am a Vietnam vet and find the fact that the Righties still believe the military and vets are “90% behind them” a real laugher. Gen. Wesley Clark, one of the most respected officers of our time, said on an interview last week that his data shows over 60% of the Active and recent vets are AGAINST the Repugs and the war. And it will show up in the ‘08 elections ….. BIG TIME!


  139. stormy Says:

    “The New York Times is the perfect example. Bad news on Iraq is always on the front page. Good news on Iraq is always buried on page twelve or so.”

    Proof? And, what do you consider “bad”news? The fact that we went there based on lies? The fact the the surge is working? Oh wait, the fact that we’re in the middle of a civil war?

    “When the millitary ballots are counted, they come up at the 90% numbers. I’m not going to link what is already known.”

    Again with the 90%? Proof? So you’re not going to link with “what is already know.” Known by who?

    “they have done extensive pols and the millitary vote republican. Just like African Americans vote democrat. It’s a given.”

    Again, link? While I will agree, when I was IN, more than 1/2 voted GOP, but 90%? Anecdotally, WAY less than 90%. “It’s a given”. Not really a given, unless you can produce a recent poll (thanks barfly)

    Again, you really haven’t defined journalism, other than a lame “And no, I don’t consider Drudge a journalsit.”, bad news page 1, good news page 12..all proffered with no proof.

    Care to try again?


  140. stormy Says:

    Dear TPers

    I apologize. I shouldn’t have engaged this troll. I’m just tired of these chickenhawks trying to take the “high ground.” I realize that convincing a wall is much more productive.

    I’ve read enough of Swank to know it was a waste of time.

    Again, Sorry for going far afield.


  141. erock Says:

    Care to try again?

    Comment by stormy — October 10, 2007 @ 3:42 pm

    There were some poll results of the armed forces and their families in the article that VoteVets posted at dKos. They indicated that recently, the armed forces lean left on issues pertaining to Iraq. Doesn’t really indicate how they vote but it certainly calls 90% GOP into question.

    Here’s the link for those too lazy to scroll up:

    http://www.dailykos.com/ storyonly/ 2007/ 10/ 10/ 23558/ 499


  142. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    stormy

    No problem - we all get carried away with our progressive idea that facts can win people over. And, sometimes wack-a-troll is fun. Plus, this thread was pretty much dead anyway.


  143. LividLib Says:

    Comment by LividLib — October 10, 2007 @ 12:47 pm

    I have seen conservatives voice their opinion, that killing liberals would be great fun, and would “clean” the country. Seems like someone in the 1930’s and 40’s said similar stuff about a certain religious/ethnic group.

    Comment by Krazny — October 10, 2007 @ 1:26 pm

    Are you suggesting that there are similarities between my tongue-in-cheek reference to a civil war involving 2 diametrically opposed POLITICAL groups (necons & libs) and Hitler and the holocaust? Read my post again and then please tell me where I made reference to cleansing the country of a religious/ethnic/racial group! Get your head out of your rectal vault, Krazny! I was talk’n politics, not religion, ethnicity or race. Do I think the world would be a far better/safer place with the current administration and those who steadfastly support it out of the picture? You’re damn straight I do! How much blood do these bastards have on their hands? For what? Security? Democracy? Cheap oil? It was all a goddamn lie! What’s next? WMDs in Iran? How many more lives will be lost? Who’s the real enemy here, Krazy?


  144. Uncle Ho Says:

    Rush Limpdick & his dittohead brownshirts are phoney patriots.


  145. Uncle Ho Says:

    Al Franken said it best, it’s even the title of one of his books. Rush Limbaugh Is A Big Fat Idiot


  146. MarkD Says:

    You know, these threads read a lot better when you sort them by “Top Rated.”

    Really. Try it some time. Truly wonderful.

    Now if TP can get the system to label someone a troll without having to report them — thus giving some comments a negative rating — then it’d be perfect since some great comments don’t get recommended, but are clumped with the trolls.


  147. MCMetal Says:

    I would be very interested to hear Rush’s own definition of “hateful”.

    Comment by missmolly — October 10, 2007 @ 12:43 pm

    Slender people/those who diet ………..


  148. Leftside Annie Says:

    Huh. Same old “Some say….” crapola.

    Bullsh*t.


  149. MCMetal Says:

    #111

    Comment by Lefty Patriot — October 10, 2007 @ 2:48 pm

    “Interestingly enough, not about veterans.”

    Petraeus is a veteran, so is McCain, ect… Please!

    Comment by Tracy1 — October 10, 2007 @ 4:29 pm

    Wow !!!!!! 2 !?!?!?

    You could list more people opening a window on 5th Ave in NYC and yelling out of it and asking their names……..


  150. Lefty Patriot Says:

    Fact. 90% of journalist vote democrat according to surveys done. 90% of millitary vote republican according to elctions. Fact.

    Comment by Johnny Swank — October 10, 2007 @ 3:02 pm

    bullshit is not fact.

    Petraeus is a veteran, so is McCain, ect… Please!

    Comment by Tracy1 — October 10, 2007 @ 4:29 pm

    and both actively working against the American people. Just shy of treason, at best. Two filthy, lying politicians, protecting the pig in charge. Sorry, there are exceptions to every rule, and those two are the lowest on the scale. Good of you to point that out.


  151. MCMetal Says:

    I listened to rush’s comments, and he as talking about people who were not soldiers, and purporting to be soldiers. As for the filthy messages, jeesh, have you all read some of the filth right here? Everyone is just as filthy as everyone else. I am SO glad I am not democrat NOR republican.

    Comment by Douglas G — October 10, 2007 @ 4:08 pm

    Your ridiculous assessment that the “filth” here is just as filthy as everyone else has a faulty premise ; this site has been banned from being viewed by our military from what I’ve been told.

    What hasn’t Fat Bastard Limpballs been treated similarly ?

    BTW Your contention that you’re “SO glad” that you’re not either Dem or Rep is probably true ; it still doesn’t mean you are , or make you better than anyone else ……


  152. foolme1ns Says:

    Republicans hate and Rush’s fans hate best of all. They hate muslims, they hate liberals, they hate queers, (unless of course they are republicans), they hate veterans who are against the war, they hate soldiers who disagree with the war, and they also hate sick children.

    Hate is what they do.


  153. Krazny Says:

    Comment by LividLib — October 10, 2007 @ 3:57 pm

    The real enemy is the renegade white house at this point. I was actually referring to the person you quoted. And being very serious about reading remarks from Rush fans and other dittohead conservatives, who talk lovingly about being able to kill liberals. Read through the thread, that was on here when the Rush stuff started. His rabid fan base is all over it, defending him, and endlessly yelling about how terrible liberals are, and how the world would be a better place without them.


  154. Arne Langsetmo Says:

    #1 Roger_Roger:

    This is wrong and I would expect Rush to say so.

    Bet you were wrong aout the WoMD and the “cakewalk” too. Why flaunt your eedjitcy?

    Cheers,


  155. MCMetal Says:

    Comment by Lefty Patriot — October 10, 2007 @ 4:36 pm

    “and both actively working against the American people.”

    Oh, I thought you were dealing in pure facts rather than offering your BS opinion. Sorry for giving you the benefit of the doubt. BTW Murtha is at the bottom of your “scale” considering he is pretty much scum for calling troops in the Haditha incident “cold blooded murders”.

    Comment by Tracy1 — October 10, 2007 @ 5:08 pm

    But Frankenstein McLame is to be lauded for claiming progress in Iraq that doesn’t exist , while he strolls through a part of it with half the US Army covering his stupid ass ?


  156. erock Says:

    Comment by Tracy1 — October 10, 2007 @ 5:08 pm

    Funny you should mention Democrats v. Republicans on supporting the troops:

    http://www.blueoregon.com/2006/10/democrats_outfl.html


  157. Wayne Says:

    Funny you should mention Democrats v. Republicans on supporting the troops:

    http://www.blueoregon.com/2006/10/democrats_outfl.html

    Comment by erock — October 10, 2007 @ 5:29 pm

    Don’t give the trolls facts, their heads explode and it leaves a mess on the threads /snark


  158. Xisithrus Says:

    This is wrong and I would expect Rush to say so.

    Comment by Roger_Roger

    I concur Roger as this, in a modern society, is uncalled for and results in partisan, revolutionary extremism, that works to divide America, for political partisanship, instead of keeping America tightly bound.

    Rush is, in effect, doing Osamas work by dividing our country.


  159. Xisithrus Says:

    Rush calling our troops phony works to divide America when it need not be, when he engages in such partisan punditry he thinks helps America, it does not!


  160. dafletcha Says:

    Does anyone see any irony in all these hateful comments being made about a man whose audience sends hateful emails?

    I mean, really folks, you can’t expect to be taken seriously when engaging in the very behavior you’re protesting.

    Must we really resort to ad hominem attacks when there are so many valid reasons not to like Rush Limbaugh?


  161. republicans hate facts Says:

    Must we really resort to ad hominem attacks when there are so many valid reasons not to like Rush Limbaugh?
    Comment by dafletcha — October 10, 2007 @ 6:56 pm

    Your post reflects the same hypocrisy, what planet are you from, planet GOP concern troll?


  162. dafletcha Says:

    republicans hate facts -

    Please point out the hypocrisy in what I said. And I’m no troll. I’m a longtime reader, sometime poster on this site, and an all-the-time Progressive. (Check my previous posts if you must.)

    I just hate to see people providing fodder for those who claim left-wing blogs are full of hateful zealots. We are in the “right” (pun intended) on the issues discussed here. There’s no need to resort to name calling, ad hominems, etc. Let that be the domain of Limbaugh, Coulter, Free Republic, et al.

    Just my $0.02. Flame on.


  163. rabb046 Says:

    I, too, just sent a donation to VoteVets.org. The thank you note should be sent to Rush.


  164. jb Says:

    Any low rank military grunt voting for any GOP is voting against his/her own self interest. This is dawning on many of them after this last fiasco in Iraq.


  165. republicans hate facts Says:

    Please point out the hypocrisy in what I said. And I’m no troll. I’m a longtime reader, sometime poster on this site, and an all-the-time Progressive. (Check my previous posts if you must.) Comment by dafletcha — October 10, 2007 @ 9:01 pm

    Yet this post was that of a troll.

    I just hate to see people providing fodder for those who claim left-wing blogs are full of hateful zealots. We are in the “right” (pun intended) on the issues discussed here. There’s no need to resort to name calling, ad hominems, etc. Let that be the domain of Limbaugh, Coulter, Free Republic, et al.
    Just my $0.02. Flame on.
    Comment by dafletcha — October 10, 2007 @ 9:01 pm

    Then stop acting that way. Hypocrite. Rush is hateful, calling him such isn’t an ad hominem. You however both name called redstate people, and liberals in one shot on this one. So why don’t you shove your hypocrisy, and grow a pair?