CNN Pins Blame On Democrats For Right-Wing Smear Of 12-Year Old Boy
CNN Pins Blame On Democrats For Right-Wing Smear Of 12-Year Old Boy
This morning, CNN aired its first report on the right-wing smear campaign against 12-year old SCHIP recipient Graeme Frost. CNN pinned the blame on Democrats for assault on the Frost family.
CNN’s John Roberts reported: “Some of the accusations [against the Frosts] may be exaggerated or false. But did the Democrats make a tactical error in holding up Graeme as their poster child?” A CNN political analyst then placed the blame squarely on the Democrats’ shoulders:
I think in this instance what happened was the Democrats didn’t do as much of a vetting as they could have done on this young man, his situation, his family. […]
More and more, Congress is acting less like a deliberative legislative body, and more like a political campaign. We’ve been seeing the politicization of every aspect of government.
Watch it:
This isn’t mere political theatrics. You wouldn’t know it from the CNN report, but Congress did actually pass an SCHIP expansion that is overwhelmingly supported by the American public. Moreover, the Democratic-led Congress has been acting like a “legislative body,” breaking the record for the highest number of roll call votes in history.
The CNN report disturbingly suggests that Democrats are to be faulted for daring to a put a human face on the SCHIP program — a health care program for kids. Mahablog offers this explanation:
In other words, it’s the Dems fault that the Frost family is being ripped to shreds by the Right? This is like saying “it’s your fault if you lead your cow into a river full of piranha.” Yes, righties are behaving like a school of piranha, and the Dems should have known this would happen.
Another disturbing trend in the media portrayal of this story, as noted by Marcy Wheeler, is a willingness by the traditional media to place the blame on “bloggers” and politics “in the Internet age.” Right-wing bloggers were indeed leading the charge, but the entire conservative establishment — Rush Limbaugh, Senate offices, and leading conservative publications — joined in the effort.
Few journalists have yet to note that while the right-wing blogosphere attacked Graeme, it was the progressive blogosphere that led in his defense.
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DARN THAT LIBERAL MEDIA!!!!!!
October 11th, 2007 at 10:28 amI stopped watching CNN after 2006.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:29 amCNN = Fox “News” Lite
Chetry and Roberts are both absolute fools who regularly interject their own biased opinions into the stories they report on.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:30 amYes, righties are behaving like a school of piranha, and the Dems should have known this would happen.
Yeah, sure, it is the Dems fault the righties are batsh!t insane.
I guess it was the Dems fault the right is smearing veterans against the war as “phony soldiers” too.
Is CNN trying to project that the Dems should just stay in the corner and let the rabid righties continue to land body blows?
October 11th, 2007 at 10:32 amThis is beyond the pale and reminds me of the Terry Schiavo affair and the attacks on her husband. How quickly CNN forgets.
The modern use of civilian surrogates to press political points was started by Ronald Reagan and his State of the Union guests. There are multiple examples; as mentioned, Republicans used them in the Snowflake babies, when Ashley Faulkner whose mother died in 9/11 was used in the Bush 2004 ads and the Republican advertising against Social Security used a child spokesperson.
Can you tell me where the left launched any similar investigations and personal attacks against these spokespeople? Spokespeople who were civilian non-politicians and just provided an example to humanize the issue?
You should take a look at Malkin’s refusal to debate the SCHIP issue with Ezra Klein. You can argue the issue without the personal attacks but she has absolutely no interest in doing that. That would compromise the village mob mentality that the right so carefully nurtures. This is how the Malkins, Limbaughs, O’Reillys and Becks make their living. Unfortunately, someone innocent usually pays when the mob is on the rampage.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:35 amI stopped watching CNN after they hired Glenn Beck. Stuff like this makes me laugh out loud when Bill O’Reilly calls them pagans and the devil.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:35 amI think in this instance what happened was the Democrats didn’t do as much of a vetting as they could have done on this young man, his situation, his family. […]
Seems to me the family was vetted just fine. It wasn’t up to the Democrats to do the vetting, the state of Maryland did that and found the family qualified to receive S-CHIP assistance according to federal and state guidelines.
The only thing that happened here was that a family told people about their experience with the program, and for that they are being punished.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:36 amThe CNN report disturbingly suggests that Democrats are to be faulted
October 11th, 2007 at 10:37 amThats right, how dare the Democrats be accused of doing anything wrong. EVER
“Dim Wit” (#4) has it correct. CNN=Fox lite.
BUT isn’t CNN owned by Murdoch?? SOON, we’ll see this kinda crap from the Wall Street Journal as well.
These bozo’s have no opinions on their own -just what cheeney’s WH tells them to report.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:39 amIt’s long past time to put a human face on the Bush administrations demolition of decency, social accountability, the environment, education and civil rights.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:40 amThats right, how dare the Democrats be accused of doing anything wrong. EVER
You’re joking, right? How about a guy named Clinton? I suppose he was never accused of anything? Seriously do you think about ANYTHING that comes out of your piehole?
October 11th, 2007 at 10:41 amLibs, why didn’t you think about this child’s mental well-being before making him your poster child? He is now included in this political catastrophe. Stop taking children hostage in order to spread your despicable political propaganda.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:44 amShut up, Daryll.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:45 amremember the snowflakes daryll!! THOSE BLESSED LITTLE SNOWFLAKES!!!
October 11th, 2007 at 10:46 amYeah. How dare Democrats not realize that the Republicans and their cronys would stoop so low? They should have known better and not even tried to oppose them, I mean, how dare they even think about trying to do something like this rather than simply buy into Bush’s line like good politicians?
God, CNN, you disgust me. The right wing smears this family with outright lies and personal attacks and DEATH THREATS, the sane side of the blogosphere points out how baseless and stupid the lies are, the political enablers of this attack even back off on it, leaving Malkin et. al. out in the cold, and yet it’s DEMOCRATS who are to blame, because they didn’t percieve the possibility of this family being attacked for speaking up?
God, what hackery. No, it’s not even hackery at this point. Hackery at least has some kind of attempt of pretending to do your job.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:46 amlefty
How about a guy named Clinton?
Wait, suddenly you guys get to use the ‘But but but but Clinton?’ defense?
October 11th, 2007 at 10:46 amStop taking children hostage in order to spread your despicable political propaganda.
Comment by Daryll — October 11, 2007 @ 10:44 am
What do you have to say about Michelle Malkins actions toward this family? Pretty damn christ-like, huh?
October 11th, 2007 at 10:47 amWait, suddenly you guys get to use the ‘But but but but Clinton?’ defense?
Comment by Squegeeboo — October 11, 2007 @ 10:46 am
Something different. ;)
October 11th, 2007 at 10:48 amDaryll - …so…because the Right Wing is attacking this kid and his family, it’s the Dems fault for bringing him up to the spotlight after they chose to step up as an example of the SCHIP program’s virtues. So it’s their fault that they’re caught in a firestorm after the right wing tried so furiously to discount them, smear them as parasites and frauds, and then bash Dems for bringing out children for political points, despite the fact that Republicans have done this time and time again with nary a peep against the children used themselves.
Get a conscience.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:48 amStop taking children hostage in order to spread your despicable political propaganda.
Comment by Daryll
Thanks for demonstrating how you conservatives feel about children. Christ, even the mafia doesn’t go after children. Really Christian of them.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:49 amShorter Daryll: Honey, if you’d stop defending yourself, I wouldn’t have to hit you so hard.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:51 amIs CNN trying to out-Faux FauxNews now? What a sad state of affairs.
This does seem to follow the “kill the messenger” tactics of the GDumbya administration. Don’t like the message? Kill the messenger. The facts don’t fit neatly with their opinion? Change the subject.
Limpballs, Insanity, et. al. are really stirring up this tempest in a teapot these days. What a hateful bunch of rank-jockeys.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:51 amDaryll:
So, if I take my son to school, and a crazed gunman opens fire and wounds him, I should be blamed for taking him to school?
October 11th, 2007 at 10:52 amDaryll is on the thread, try not to squeeze so many buts into your posts, skewgeebooboo, it might distract him.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:53 amStop taking children hostage in order to spread your despicable political propaganda.
Comment by Daryll
And didn’t Mark Foley also use kids as photo-op props, before he was revealed to be a perv?
October 11th, 2007 at 10:53 amZooey
Shorter Daryll: Honey, if you’d stop defending yourself, I wouldn’t have to hit you so hard.
Heck, you could even go back to using one no larger than your thumb.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:53 amWait, suddenly you guys get to use the ‘But but but but Clinton?’ defense?
If that’s what it will take to get you to admit that it’s a pathetic, cheap, lame excuse for an argument, then yes.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:54 amBarfly,
It really is Christian of them. Not all Christians are pedophiles, and not all pedophiles are Christian, but a hell of a lot of them are.
Daryll hasn’t had time to abuse himself for Jesus yet this morning, he will soon, have a cigarette and calm down. Ignore the freak.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:56 amCNN is owned by TimeWarner
October 11th, 2007 at 10:56 amWhen I read this insanity on the part of CNN, I am reminded of a rapist’s classic defense — “Well, she was asking for it!”
Following this logic, a woman shouldn’t go out in public — ever. And anyone who is helped by a government program shouldn’t praise that program — ever (unless, of course, it’s a government program the conservatives are championing).
It’s as if we finally recognize that the wingnuts are pure evil personified and have become beyond redemption. Therefore, it’s now the responsibility of the rest of us to stay out of their way to avoid being injured — and it’s our fault if we stray too close.
What’s wrong with this picture?
October 11th, 2007 at 10:56 amHeck, you could even go back to using one no larger than your thumb.
Comment by Squegeeboo — October 11, 2007 @ 10:53 am
I’m thinking telephone book.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:57 amBUT isn’t CNN owned by Murdoch??
Comment by Winski — October 11, 2007 @ 10:39 am
CNN is owned by TimeWarner
October 11th, 2007 at 10:57 am“More and more, Congress is acting less like a deliberative legislative body, and more like a political campaign. We’ve been seeing the politicization of every aspect of government.”
So….congress shouldnt be political?
October 11th, 2007 at 10:58 amWTF?
cnn’s content has been so degraded since jonathan klein was installed, it’s impossible to watch anymore. from the ignorant chatterbunnies to the nightly lou dobbs rantings, a once great news source has been gutted into a sad shell of its former self. but, damn, it does have a rootin’ tootin’ situation room…
October 11th, 2007 at 10:58 amWhat’s wrong with this picture?
Comment by missmolly — October 11, 2007 @ 10:56 am
Classic domestic abuse — on a national level.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:59 am.
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If Americans don’t wake up and start turning off the corporate media, then democracy will be nothing more than an illusion.
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October 11th, 2007 at 10:59 am.
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Daryll - …so…because the Right Wing is attacking this kid and his family, it’s the Dems fault for bringing him up to the spotlight after they chose to step up as an example of the SCHIP program’s virtues. So it’s their fault that they’re caught in a firestorm after the right wing tried so furiously to discount them, smear them as parasites and frauds, and then bash Dems for bringing out children for political points, despite the fact that Republicans have done this time and time again with nary a peep against the children used themselves.
Get a conscience.
Comment by Kryptik — October 11, 2007 @ 10:48 am
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He is a “child”. Let him attend school, enjoy recess and play video games. My God, the child has already been through enough. What next, do you want him to speak in front of the House and Senate? You guys are seriously sick. There are so many things that I want to say, but I must keep my peace and maintain the Holy Ghost that is in me.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:00 amYou really need to get over the shock and depression of having mainstream media blaming “the blogosphere” for all the world’s ills. It’s just natural selection, well-dressed and respected people fighting back the shadow of their impending demise.
Man invents free radio
People rejoice, listen to gobs of radio.
Man uses radio to leverage sales of recorded audio. $
Man invents free television
People rejoice, watch gobs of television.
Radio gets sad, turns to shock value to keep attention. It fails.
Man uses television to leverage sales of cable and recorded video. $
Man invents free internet
People rejoice, clicky clicky clicky internets.
Television gets sad, turns to shock value to keep attention. It fails.
Man uses internet to leverage sales of broadband. $
Man invents media…
People rejoice…
Old technology gets sad and cheapens itself…
Someone finds a way to make people pay for something that’s free…
ad infinitum
October 11th, 2007 at 11:00 amlefty
If that’s what it will take to get you to admit that it’s a pathetic, cheap, lame excuse for an argument, then yes.
I already willingly admit that for most of my arguments. Except for resuming above ground nuclear testing to combat global warming. That one’s just brilliant.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:00 amLibs, why didn’t you think about this child’s mental well-being before making him your poster child? He is now included in this political catastrophe. Stop taking children hostage in order to spread your despicable political propaganda.
Comment by Daryll — October 11, 2007 @ 10:44 am
With all due respect, Daryll, I think that you are making a common mistake, and that is equating “liberals” and “Democrats”. (I, for example, am a liberal but not a Democrat. I am an unaffiliated voter.) It was the Democratic Party that decided to have young Mr. Frost give their response to the president’s weekly radio address, not all of the nation;s liberals. It was certain well-known conservatives (and not necessarily Republicans, although it may turn out they were involved) who launched the immediate smear campaign against the Frost family. (Furthermore, contrary to what this so-called CNN “expert” says, it was the right-wing critics that failed to do the proepr vetting.) My feeling is that if you attack my family, you attack me. So when the right-wing attacked the Frost family, they attacked Graeme, too. There is nothing wrong, therefore, with saying that Malkin and others attacked a 12-year-old boy. And why do these particular well-known people from the right believe that the way to win an argument is to attack the person giving it, and not the argument they are giving? How is that a legitimate form of debate?
For example, you yourself are a highly spiritual person while I am an atheist. Does that automatically mean that neither of us should ever accept that the other might be saying something truthful, even if it is unrelated to religion and spirituality, just because we feel the other is wrong about religion? The right-wing’s attack on Graeme and his family was unfounded, as has been shown by the facts they didn’t bother to investigate first. How is that possibly the fault of liberals?
October 11th, 2007 at 11:00 am“More and more, Congress is acting less like a deliberative legislative body, and more like a political campaign. And we’ve been abetting the politicization of every aspect of government.â€
There, I fixed it for you, John.
No thanks required.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:01 amMore evidence that CNN is trying to outfox Faux Noose.
BTW — Rumor has it that Comcast is deleting MSNBC from its basic television cable package. Those who want to hear Keith Olbermann would have to pay extra to see him if this occurs.
And recent polls indicate that far more people in this country believe that there is a liberal than conservative bias in the mainstream news?
When a country has an autocratic leadership working in concert with the country’s news outlets, both entities could agree to promote the message that the world is flat and the majority of people in this country would believe it. The ground is being tilled in preparation for sowing the seeds of tyranny and despotism.
“It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion. If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” - Dr. Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:04 amSo this 12 year old is the dems “Cow”? I see it now, you milk him until he is dry, then eat the remains. Why the dems treat humans as disposable is beyond me. When you use a 12 year old for political reasons, they are more then fair game since you started it. I do like how you at least admit you are simply using this 12 year old as your “cow”. NICE!
October 11th, 2007 at 11:04 am“There are so many things that I want to say, but I must keep my peace and maintain the Holy Ghost that is in me.”
Ask Him what He thinks of attacking children for something parents did.
Also ask Him if it’s ok to support those that attack children for political purposes.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:06 amI do like how you at least admit you are simply using this 12 year old as your “cowâ€. NICE!
Comment by Roger_Roger — October 11, 2007 @ 11:04 am
Hey Rgoerx2, great stuff coming out of the Malkin-cow and Rush-cow, huh? I bet you’re proud.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:07 amSo this 12 year old is the dems “Cowâ€? I see it now, you milk him until he is dry, then eat the remains. Why the dems treat humans as disposable is beyond me. When you use a 12 year old for political reasons, they are more then fair game since you started it. I do like how you at least admit you are simply using this 12 year old as your “cowâ€. NICE!
Comment by Roger_Roger — October 11, 2007 @ 11:04 am
Trust me, the Democratic Party rarely cares about the children. They would use adults, children, clergyman, soldiers and even animals for personal political gain. They have no respect at all.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:07 amAnother proud moment for CNN. Do they teach this sort of thing in journalism school?
“Some of the accusations [against the Frosts] may be exaggerated or false….”
Really? Isn’t THAT the story? Apparently not. I guess it’s true, the truth does have liberal bias.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:08 amAsk Him what He thinks of attacking children for something parents did.
Also ask Him if it’s ok to support those that attack children for political purposes.
Comment by barfly — October 11, 2007 @ 11:06 am
He’ll ask Pastor Gino — and that guy don’t know shit.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:08 amI must keep my peace and maintain the Holy Ghost that is in me.
Comment by Daryll
I’ve heard doubling up on the wet suit will work.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:08 am“When you use a 12 year old for political reasons, they are more then fair game since you started it.”
Republicans: The family party.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:08 am“There are so many things that I want to say, but I must keep my peace and maintain the Holy Ghost that is in me.â€
Ask Him what He thinks of attacking children for something parents did.
Also ask Him if it’s ok to support those that attack children for political purposes.
Comment by barfly — October 11, 2007 @ 11:06 am
We are not attacking the child, we are criticizing the parents for allowing the child to be used in this manner. Get your facts straight.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:10 amdaryll
There are so many things that I want to say, but I must keep my peace and maintain the Holy Ghost that is in me.
Is that what your priest asked you to call it?
October 11th, 2007 at 11:10 amHe is a “childâ€. Let him attend school, enjoy recess and play video games. My God, the child has already been through enough. What next, do you want him to speak in front of the House and Senate? You guys are seriously sick. There are so many things that I want to say, but I must keep my peace and maintain the Holy Ghost that is in me.
It was a pre-recorded radio address. Not like the perfectly staged photo ops with the Snowflake Children or Boehner’s ops with silent, happy looking kids.
And you call us sick for having him speak, when Malkin and the like are trying to call them frauds, and they’re having people stalk their houses and make death threats and prying into their private lives.
Again, get a conscience.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:10 am“Why the dems treat humans as disposable is beyond me.
Comment by Roger_Roger”
“They used this family for the emotion card and political gain
Comment by Vendetta”
i know, right? everybody knows it’s only okay when the daughter has a feeding tube.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:11 am“Trust me, the Democratic Party rarely cares about the children. They would use adults, children, clergyman, soldiers and even animals for personal political gain. They have no respect at all.”
Comment by Daryll
But have Dems ever attacked the children republicans have trotted out to make their political theater?
Never. Some things go beyond common decency, and Daryll just gave us a good gander at his feet of clay.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:12 amWe are not attacking the child, we are criticizing the parents for allowing the child to be used in this manner. Get your facts straight.
You say that even after Rogerx2 straight out says ‘he’s more than fair game’?
And again, what of people like little Noah, the one Bush and the Repubilcans carted out to vet for his ‘Social Security Reform’? Were the parents allowing him to be exploited then? Or the parents of the Snowflake Children?
Are normal familes no longer allowed to make statements or step up for something they believe in, because they’re being ‘used’ or are letting children be used as ‘pawns’? Grow the hell up.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:14 am“We are not attacking the child, we are criticizing the parents for allowing the child to be used in this manner. Get your facts straight.”
Comment by Daryll
Slice that baloney any way you want, but knowing republicans I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve also received wingnut death threats.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:14 amSo this 12 year old is the dems “Cowâ€? I see it now, you milk him until he is dry, then eat the remains. Why the dems treat humans as disposable is beyond me. When you use a 12 year old for political reasons, they are more then fair game since you started it. I do like how you at least admit you are simply using this 12 year old as your “cowâ€. NICE!
Comment by Roger_Roger — October 11, 2007 @ 11:04 am
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It was the CNN guy that likened the child to a cow, not the dems.
This kid’s argument is more than fair game, attack the message if you have anything worth saying. Don’t punch a kid in the nuts, ESPECIALLY when you can’t even argue that without SCHIP this kid’s life would suck.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:16 amtired of fascist propaganda? voice your OPINION!!!!
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/cnntv/
October 11th, 2007 at 11:17 amIt is very stupid of the GOP to demonize universal health care when it is favored by 60-70% of America — with no income test and no means test.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:18 amWatching the GOP noise machine attack CHIP is like watching a ghoul walk into a buzz saw.
We are not attacking the child, we are criticizing the parents for allowing the child to be used in this manner. Get your facts straight.
Comment by Daryll — October 11, 2007 @ 11:10 am
Bullshit. Open your eyes, dingleberry.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:18 amThe Republican Party and the right-wing media have a sick and twisted view of what should be considered “fair game”. I believe that this stems from their “win at all costs” mentality. On what basis did Malkin feel it appropiate to investigate the Frost family? The facts that Graeme related in the address he gave were true, and there was no reason to believe that he was not telling the truth, so why did she start with the assumption that the Frosts were lying somehow? Because some conservative blogger left a comment suggesting otherwise? And when it turned out that the blogger was wrong about his suspicions, why was it still legitimate to bring them up as “suspicions”? And what did any of that have to do with what Graeme said in his address? That’s the part I don’t understand. (And I included the Republican Party separately for Rove’s comment about Valerie Plame being “fair game”. She wasn’t, either.)
October 11th, 2007 at 11:19 amIt was the dems fault. They used this family for the emotion card and political gain and did not take into account the fallout.
Comment by Vendetta — October 11, 2007 @ 10:28 am
The fallout? You’re right, there should have been an expectation of a smear campaign by the Rightwing. It is basically the only way that they respond to political situations where they realize the unpopularity of their stance. The need to denigrate a child who has benefited from this altruistic program because the Repubs have no other sensible rebuttal should have been recognized.
Why do you give the smear tactics of the Right a free pass?
October 11th, 2007 at 11:19 am“Why the dems treat humans as disposable is beyond me.”
Says the “Shock and Awe” cheerleader, blithely dismissing all the Iraqis that suddenly became disposable when Bush decided to invade.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:19 amI would have no problem with Jesse’s Girl and her Hot Air machine attacking the guidelines that they apparently think are too generous.
What’s disgusting is how they’ve personalized the discussion, calling the Frosts bad parents, questioning the children’s injuries, calling them leeches on society - all based on assumptions about this family that some freeper pulled off the internet and MM’s drive-by at their home and business.
No one quite gets it. Your issue is not with the Frosts. They have done nothing illegal. In fact, they are the paradigm family that conservatives hoot about all the time - they provide for their kids, they both work hard, they are trying to get ahead, he is an entrepreneur trying to make it, they invested in a modest home for their family, they have made sure their children have access to the best schools that can address their permanent brain injuries.
But no, instead of arguing the program, they’ve attacked a family who has had more struggles to deal with than most of us ever will.
Jesse’s Girl made a point of mentioning that they have a 1-20-09 sticker on their door. I bet 1-20-09 can’t get here fast enough for the Frosts.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:21 amMy god. These reichers are beyond evil.
I feel sick.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:22 amDaryll of Parodyll,
You’re posts are nothing more than a pretext to “enrage” the left with nonsensical ideas and false accusations.
You add absolutely nothing to the discussion, except for your cult’s belief that “God wants all liburals dead”.
Unless you can bring some substantial intelligence to this discussion, for me, consider yourself “ignored”.
Back on topic,
If a program that helped single mothers earn a college degree (and thus helping them to enter the working world) was successful, but was threatened to be cut, why not use a “family” as an example of it’s positive?
Only the right would feel vindicated for attacking a family for a program that was successful.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:23 amUnfortunately, the remaining consumers of this administration’s kool aid can’t bear to actually find fault with anything they do. I truly believe the left is more Christ like than the right will ever be!
I bet 1-20-09 can’t get here fast enough for the Frosts.
Comment by Candyce — October 11, 2007 @ 11:21 am
Or the rest of us….
October 11th, 2007 at 11:23 amMostly because it makes troll heads explode, I want to point out yet again what a great job Pelosi and Reid are doing smacking the GOP around on health care. It’s an issue most Americans care deeply about, and GOP members of Congress, if they want to keep their jobs, are gonna have to split with the White House on this. That’s a first, and it bodes well for the Dems’ effort to reign in Bush’s Iraq fiasco.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:25 amDaryll and his other brother Daryll?
October 11th, 2007 at 11:26 amI have to point out that many Republican members of Congress support SCHIP. This isn’t really a GOP vs. Dem matter: the Frost’s true offense was embarassing George W. Bush.
Which is an unforgivable crime according to the Cult of Bush.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:30 amWhere did Daryll go? Is there a thread about gay sex…?
October 11th, 2007 at 11:31 amlol Zooey
October 11th, 2007 at 11:32 amWhere did Daryll go? Is there a thread about gay sex…?
Comment by Zooey — October 11, 2007 @ 11:31 am
Maybe he’s working on submitting one under the guest blogger’s program.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:33 amTrust me, the Democratic Party rarely cares about the children. They would use adults, children, clergyman, soldiers and even animals for personal political gain. They have no respect at all.
Comment by Daryll — October 11, 2007 @ 11:07 am
Daryll, you are a real HOOT! Coming from the Party that has killed over 3800 US men and women, wounded over 20,000 more and responsible for over 200,000 civilian deaths (Including many children).
Gotta love those “Family Values” Repugs and semi-Xians, huh?
October 11th, 2007 at 11:34 amHey Candyce, I don’t know what it is about Daryll, but he’s my favorite troll. I better get to the bus.
Have fun!
October 11th, 2007 at 11:34 amWow attacking a middle america family, and then saying it is ok. Great family values at play there guys. I guess when it is a win at all cost it doesn’t matter. And you wonder why the republican party is losing credibility, and members.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:35 amAnd we wonder why the Repugs are swirling the drain and even their own party is predicting losing another 9 seats in the Senate, giving the Dems a veto-proof position.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:37 amMaybe Daryll heard about a congregation who needs a new pastor…
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/ 2007/ 10/ whoa-by-tristero-whenever-anyone-tells.html
October 11th, 2007 at 11:37 amThese clowns, naturally, left out another key detail:
THIS FAMILY VOLUNTEERED TO PUT A HUMAN FACE ON THE PROGRAM. THEY WANTED TO DO IT!!
Now, I think those of us that pay attention knew the right would send its attack dogs onto the family since they have ZERO intention of ever debating policy — as Malkin’s wuss out of Ezra’s challenge proves. All they know how to do is ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK! with innuendo and outright lies.
And we also all know if the left blogosphere had done half of what the rightard, soulless cowards did to this family, it would lead every newscast for a month with headlines asking if we should be thrown in jail.
But, as usual, IOIYAR.
**shakes head**
October 11th, 2007 at 11:38 amAgain Daryll shows what kind of “christian” he is with the vile hypocritical diahrea spilling forth from his deranged mind.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:39 amBy this reasoning, it’s my fault for the guy hitting me in a car accident, because I happened to be standing in the way he was going (on the sidewalk).
October 11th, 2007 at 11:39 am#12 - “Stop taking children hostage in order to spread your despicable political propaganda.” Comment by Daryll — October 11, 2007 @ 10:44 am
Isn’t that the hypocritical “kettle” calling the progressive “pot” black!
How many times do you see right-whiners “using” children for partisan political purposes? Notice that libs don’t attack the children that Pres. Bush “used” in his pathetic “snowflake baby” propoganda, but that right-whiiners are more than happy to atttack anyone, “just because”.
My, how easy it is for right-whiners to ignore the beam in their eye while they scream madly about the splinter in everyone else’s eye.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:43 amMemo to rightwing noise machine: knock yourselves out, idiots. It only emphasizes how out of step with America the GOP is, and exposes the rightwing noise machine as vicious, small-minded, thugs.
Oh, and say good-bye to elctoral victories in 2008, dumbasses.
“A majority of Americans say the federal government should guarantee health insurance to every American, especially children, and are willing to pay higher taxes to do it, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.”
“Eighty-four percent of those polled said they supported expanding the current program…”
“Only 24 percent said they were satisfied with President Bush’s handling of the health insurance issue, despite his recent initiatives, and 62 percent said the Democrats were more likely to improve the health care system.”
http://query.nytimes.com/ gst/ fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9e06e7d71631f931a35750c0a9619c8b63
October 11th, 2007 at 11:44 amBy this reasoning, it’s my fault for the guy hitting me in a car accident, because I happened to be standing in the way he was going (on the sidewalk).
Comment by TheToonGuy — October 11, 2007 @ 11:39 am
Or like standing in the way of Darth’s drunken shotgun, interrupting the flight of his double-aught buckshot load.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:47 amThere are so many things that I want to say, but I must keep my peace and maintain the Holy Ghost that is in me.
Comment by Daryll — October 11, 2007 @ 11:00 am
Obviously, your heart is not in sync with the Holy Ghost.
For comparisons, let’s consider: the use of children in anti-abortion protests, the Jerry Lewis poster children, the use of children in advertisements, the attempted attacks on Chelsea Clinton when she was a young teen, religious groups trying to get into schools to promote their religion without the parents’ approval, the Congressional page system with or without the sexual solicitation, child labor to make your favorite sport shoes. What is exploitation of children? Does this boy’s parents’ decision to promote a program that probably saved his life qualify as abuse or exploitation? If so, charge them. Or rather, does the smear campaign attacking the family personally without considering the merits of the SCHIP program itself constitute the real abuse? You decide. I already have.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:48 amThis for Daryll, who likes to hit us over the head with his piety:
Matt 6:5-6 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:53 amThere are so many things that I want to say, but I must keep my peace and maintain the Holy Ghost that is in me.
Comment by Daryll — October 11, 2007 @ 11:00 am
C’mon, this can’t be the real Daryll! He jumps at any chance he gets to condemn and judge other people’s actions and views…just like the Bible says you should. Right Daryll?
October 11th, 2007 at 11:54 amHow about
“Whatever you do to the least among you, you do to me”
A direct quote from Jesus.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:54 am…the smear campaign attacking the family personally without considering the merits of the SCHIP program itself constitute the real abuse?
I agree with everything you say PLC but must interject: many GOP members of Congress favor SCHIP: Chuch Grassley is no lefty! It is the White House than stands in the way of SCHIP. The Frost family didn’t offend the rightwingers by favoring SCHIP; The Frost family’s true offense was embarassing George W. Bush, an unforgivable crime according to the Cult of Bush, and that is why they are being publicy pilloried.
When did American conservatism morph into the Cult of Bush?
October 11th, 2007 at 11:56 amExcuse the %$&# out of me, but seriously, how can they say that with a straight face?
Oh, that’s right, a twelve year old publicly mentioning how he’s been helped by a government program completely outdoes anything the Republicans have done when it comes to politicizing every aspect of government. Like Lurita Doan flushing the Hatch act. Or Delay and his minions on the K Street Project forcing lobbying houses to hire only Republicans. Or maybe the firing of U.S. Attorneys for actually bringing investigations against Republicans, especially when they’re warranted. Or for not bringing frivolous suits against Democrats right at election time. Leaking critical information from the fight against Al Quaeda for political gain? Repeatedly? How about potentially killing ten times the number of New Yorkers the terrorist did on 9/11 by forcing the EPA to lie and tell everybody it was perfectly safe to breath? Cronyism and Katrina, anybody? The “Help America Vote” act and unverifiable elections? John Stinkin’ Bolton? Ken Blackwell? Duke Cunningham? Well, okay, Cunningham is just a crook.
Come. On.
Politicizing every square inch of government under their purview is what Republicans do. It’s the only way they’ve been able to weasel their way into power. For them to complain about it, even if it were the case would be, um, disingenuous, to be polite.
Merely having a spokesperson for a program can hardly be considered politicizing government. Yeesh. These “reporters” really should start wearing big red nose balls and floppy shoes just to make sure nobody confuses them with anybody worth listening to.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:56 amKrazny,
The Jesus of the Right spent all of his time Hating, NOT Helping. Its the Gospel of the GOP!
October 11th, 2007 at 11:57 amNotice how Daryll and R2 have no response? Guess Jesus hasn’t given them their new talking points on this one!
October 11th, 2007 at 11:59 amWe learned this lesson.
Democrats were always saying, “Oh, so and so shouldn’t say that in a way that could be misinterpreted!”
Then so and so says it correctly, and the right misquotes him, and attacks him on the misquote.
The Frosts are fine people. Nothing wrong with them.
Then the right makes stuff up and attacks them on the stuff they made up.
There is no one you can’t do that to.
War Heroes. 9/11 Widows. People fighting deadly diseases. distinguished scientists. kid accident victims.
Daryll, it was carved in stone by the hand of God Himself, THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGaINST THY NEIGHBOR.
Defending liars, supporting liars by attacking those they lie against, puts you in the service of the Father of Lies.
1 John 6: If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
You do not have Christ in your heart, but Satan, Daryll.
October 11th, 2007 at 12:01 pmWhen did American conservatism morph into the Cult of Bush?
Comment by koko the talking gorilla — October 11, 2007 @ 11:56 am
Around Feb 20th 2001.
October 11th, 2007 at 12:02 pmThat’s one of my favorite verses. It doesn’t get read nearly enough, IMHFO.
October 11th, 2007 at 12:03 pmschiavo!
October 11th, 2007 at 12:07 pmThere are so many things that I want to say, but I must keep my peace and maintain the Holy Ghost that is in me.
Comment by Daryll — October 11, 2007 @ 11:00 am
Gee Daryll, I didn’t see any video game playing going on at God Camp. What I saw is kids being prepped for the Christian Jihad and praying to a cardboard cutout of Bush.
October 11th, 2007 at 12:14 pmOr like standing in the way of Darth’s drunken shotgun, interrupting the flight of his double-aught buckshot load.
Comment by upside99 — October 11, 2007 @ 11:47 am
ooo — that’s right! I remember it was Whittington who apologized to Cheney for that incident, not the other way around.
October 11th, 2007 at 12:16 pmThis just gets more and more bizarre. Why does CNN fear so much the GOP losing power?
October 11th, 2007 at 12:21 pmGuess the got the memo from their Fascist Masters.
Buck Fush
October 11th, 2007 at 12:24 pmWhen you use a 12 year old for political reasons, they are more then fair game since you started it.
Comment by Roger_Roger
Wow… just wow.
October 11th, 2007 at 12:27 pmbut I must keep my peace and maintain the Holy Ghost that is in me.
Comment by Daryll
Try to not get pregnant.
October 11th, 2007 at 12:28 pmbut I must keep my peace and maintain the Holy Ghost that is in me.
Comment by Daryll
Try to not get pregnant.
Comment by Juan C. — October 11, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
That’s what we call a “holy down low” in daryll’s case ;)
October 11th, 2007 at 12:37 pmBut O’Lielly says that ChristianNewsNetwork is evil and full of pagans, yeh,,,dats the ticket,,yeh dats why they say what they did,,,cause they are pagans,,,yeh Mr Ticket Bile O’Lielly sez so.
October 11th, 2007 at 12:37 pmWhen you use a 12 year old for political reasons, they are more then fair game since you started it.
Comment by Roger_Roger
Wow… just wow.
Comment by Juan C. — October 11, 2007 @ 12:27 pm
Yeah isn’t it insane how this one can justify their abusive, hateful behavior against a child as someone else’s fault, while the other troll denies it ever happened? Republicans are completely psycho!
October 11th, 2007 at 12:38 pmThough the other side has lied and misrepresented facts about the case, isn’t it the Dems fault for trying to put a human face on the numbers that keep flying around?
This is exactly the kind of convoluted logic that is crushing this country, put out by a media giant that has everything to gain from keeping the status quo of corporate intitlement in full swing.
Take the time to write CNN a Snaillmail, and quote this guy then say, “I’m done! Your credibility is gone!”
October 11th, 2007 at 12:42 pmComment by republicans hate facts — October 11, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
loks like someones fax machine is out of paper, and they missed todays bullet points!
October 11th, 2007 at 12:43 pmRepublicans are completely psycho!
Comment by republicans hate facts
But they are consequent: they defend torture, they say WP is not a chemical weapon, they are ok with illegal wiretapping, they say nuking a country is good option, they say it is ok to kill Iraqis to protect them, they say their oil is important for us, they change excuses for invasion and deny any criticism…
My guess is that they are not psychos, they are just a really sad, frustrated bunch, whose only pleasure consists in violence and victory since they have none in their personal lives.
October 11th, 2007 at 12:45 pmWhen you use a 12 year old for political reasons, they are more then fair game since you started it.
Comment by Roger_Roger
Cowardly excuse to defend your picking on an injured kid. Weaslewords.
October 11th, 2007 at 12:47 pmSlice that baloney any way you want, but knowing republicans I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve also received wingnut death threats.
Comment by barfly — October 11, 2007 @ 11:14 am
They have.
http://themoderatevoice.com/ media/ media-criticism/ 15537/ graeme-frost-senator-mitch-mcconnell-and-an-earlier-eye-witness-j%E2%80%99accuse/
October 11th, 2007 at 12:54 pmWhy are there so many parrots in the MSM??
October 11th, 2007 at 1:00 pmShows like American Morning with John Roberts are not really news shows. They are not examples of journalism. These shows will never present the truth or all the facts. Instead, they always want to present stories as two sides, left and right, and their respective arguments. In other words, they don’t want to present the facts but instead engage in theatrics and drama. They want conflict. When one side is factually wrong as the Limbaughs and his right wing lunatics are here, John Roberts will never say that. He prefers not to alientate one side in the debate but instead to present every debate in a way where he suggests both sides are right and no side is wrong. In other words, it’s an entertainment show that doesn’t make much of an effort to present the facts and all of the facts.
October 11th, 2007 at 1:09 pmbut I must keep my peace and maintain the Holy Ghost that is in me.
Comment by Daryll
Try to not get pregnant.
Comment by Juan C. — October 11, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
ROFLMAO
Gads, i’m laughing so hard, it’s difficult to type…..
October 11th, 2007 at 1:13 pmThe s-chip bill’s final passage was in the Senate, with a 2/3 vote in FAVOR of the bill. In the House, the bill passed with only 12 votes short of a veto-proof 2/3. That’s alot of Republicans who supported the bill.
October 11th, 2007 at 1:33 pmDaryll and Roger Roger are prime examples of what is wrong and sick with the repukian scum.
Thanks for pointing out just how sick you people are.
Buck Fush
October 11th, 2007 at 1:34 pmLet’s say, for the sake or argument, chucks and giggles, that the Dems are contemptible opportunists who had Graeme reply to the Presidential address because they felt a 12 year old is, or should be, out of bounds for criticism. They hid behind this kid. They used him as a friggin’ human shield. Because they had the presence of mind to know, if any Freepers WERE to attack Graeme, they could play the “How DARE pick on an injured child?” card.
Let’s say this did happen. How F**KIN STUPID are Republicans to take this bait?
October 11th, 2007 at 1:36 pmoh, PLEASE!!
how many times has Bush hugged some damned kid or had some kid say “god bless President Bush” at one of those damned campaign things on C-SPAN?? how about them ’snoflake children’? let’s follow them home and dig through their garbage!! I’ll bet they have full heads of hair!!! what?? I’m wrong??? well, I won’t apologize because nobody is gonna MAKE me. can you imagine such a thing.
this is JUST like “John Kerry brought the Swift Boaters on himself for bringing up his military records. no. no, he didn’t. and no this kid didn’t. because people aren’t freaking BABOONS. and when they BEHAVE like baboons, it’s not beyond the pale to freaking MENTION it.
SHEESH!
October 11th, 2007 at 1:44 pmDaryll and Roger Roger are prime examples of what is wrong and sick with the repukian scum.
Thanks for pointing out just how sick you people are.
Buck Fush
Comment by Buckie Boy — October 11, 2007 @ 1:34 pm
I think it was Pink Floyd, or maybe a Roger Water’s anti-war song, that had the immortal line “the bravery of being out of range”.
October 11th, 2007 at 1:55 pmOhhh, they can talk tough (keyboard warriors), but when push comes to shove, and it’s time for a mano vs mano (or womano vs womano) confrontation, they suddenly turn tail.
But, they have great examples to follow:
Rush “discredits” a soldier. Soldier challenges Oxy-boy to a face to face debate. Rush refuses.
Maulkin stalks 12 year old. Opponent challenges Michelle on topic of SCHIP. Maulkin refuses.
Hell, even our dear leader can’t face a special commission (9/11 panel) without having his hand held by Dick, and definitely not under oath.
Nice role models, Parodyll and Roger_Roger Debate_Dodger.
I hope you enjoy living in never never land, but the rest of us 72% have had enough of these cowards.
Just.
Like.
YOU!!!!
This is another example why cable “news” is losing viewers day in and day out.
It’s not even worth getting angry about their “reporting” and twisting of facts. The 70% and more of the US population is getting tired of this bs.
And CNN aka Fox lite wonders why more people get their news from the internet.
The internet/blogs killed the cable TV star!
October 11th, 2007 at 2:07 pmFinally, the media is recognizing you as the cowards you are. Just like Saddam Hussein using human shield to protect his assets, you pussies are using victims to cover your asses.
Boooyah!
October 11th, 2007 at 2:25 pmJesus commanded we give free healthcare - why is the GOP so ANTI-CHRISTIAN?
October 11th, 2007 at 3:23 pmMost of you here are either dim-witted or so easily manipulated you deserve to be the left-headed sheeple that you are.
No one is smearing a 12-year old boy. Read what has been written in response to their “sample” case. The facts are that this kid’s family is not poor. They own their own home and other commercial properties. They can afford to get their own health insurance without the government paying for it. They choose not to.
If you want to obfuscate the argument by throwing around silly accusations, fine. You deserve to be forced into third-rate healthcare by an already bloated and inefficient federal government while you sit around and avoid the real argument by tossing around partisan insults.
October 11th, 2007 at 4:15 pmThe government caused the problem with health care in America by over socializing medicine to the extent it is not completive, and we want to exacerbate the problem? Kids have health care. The needy already have health care. The U.S. is not a socialist state ( see http://tinyurl.com/2znnvl ). No one is entitled to be given a house, car, food or health care, etc. If we want these things, we have to earn them. The government does not earn money. Perhaps some of us should take a civics class and learn about America. We all have to labor for what we want. For those who need help there are the charities and state programs. We need to fix the health care issue but we cannot fix it unless we know how it is broken. For the answer, please see http://www.InteliOrg.com/
October 11th, 2007 at 4:29 pmThere are several reasons that healthcare is irrationally expensive. One major reason is lawsuits and medical liability insurance.
Can congress reform tort law? Seems like a good starting point, but they won’t do it because they’re stuck in the pockets of the trial lawyers’ lobby.
Socialism doesn’t work.
October 11th, 2007 at 4:33 pmThe facts are that this kid’s family is not poor. They own their own home and other commercial properties. They can afford to get their own health insurance without the government paying for it. They choose not to.
Comment by frankoharris — October 11, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
The SCHIP is not for the poor. You’d know that, were you not so dimwitted and easily manipulated by liars like Limbaugh and Malkin.
They applied, qualified, and the state of Maryland granted them coverage. They are the very same demographic the SCHIP is meant to provide coverage to and help.
If you don’t like that, take it up with the state of Maryland. End of story.
October 11th, 2007 at 5:29 pmSocialism doesn’t work.
Comment by frankoharris — October 11, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
It worked very well for decades in this country; it made us the strongest nation on earth. fascism doesn’t work; that’s been proven. It’s time to go back to what does work, the very American combination of capitalism and socialism we built this country on.
Idiot.
October 11th, 2007 at 5:48 pmwhile you sit around and avoid the real argument by tossing around partisan insults.
Comment by frankoharris — October 11, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
pretty funny, considering the way you opened that particular barf-up. You haven’t anything but your dim-witted opinions, which have been proven wrong by the rest of the civilized world. Your foolsih straw men are easily blown away and burned up, and you are left with nothing.
October 11th, 2007 at 5:50 pmThe idiot rightards keep conveniently forgetting that most Republicans voted for the expansion of S-CHIP. So, as it turns out, not all Republicans are the rightard sheep that our visitors are.
October 11th, 2007 at 5:54 pm#123, Lefty Patriot,
True, Reps should have realized that SCHIP would be the camel’s nose in the tent for socialized medicine. As no good deed ever goes unpunished, libs try to extend child health care to adults, so that a 25 year old couple and their two kids would be covered under the same program.
Sheesh.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:01 pmThere are several reasons that healthcare is irrationally expensive. One major reason is lawsuits and medical liability insurance. Comment by frankoharris — October 11, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
That has been debunked, it has no significant effects on the actual costs - that’s how the insurance companies justify overcharging doctors for premiums!
Can congress reform tort law? Seems like a good starting point, but they won’t do it because they’re stuck in the pockets of the trial lawyers’ lobby. Comment by frankoharris — October 11, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
That’s crap! It’s just an excuse to increase medical insurance profits so they can overcharge doctors and not have to pay out more benefits.
Most lawsuits are between corporations, not ‘tort’ cases - that’s a red herring! The number of cases has not been going up, what would have needed to occur to achieve the results you describe. Also, unless the doctors are breaking the law, they wouldn’t lose cases anyway - or had you missed that point? Sounds more like what we need is DOCTOR’S STANDARDS OF CARE REFORM?
Socialism doesn’t work.
Comment by frankoharris — October 11, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
You talking about the economic system, or single payer healthcare? Because single payer healthcare works better in every developed nation (they ALL have it) than our system does! What’s been proven to not work is OUR SYSTEM! We pay twice as much per capita as any other developed nation and 50 million uninsured, and 18,000 deaths a year from ‘healthcare rationing’ brought on by people not being able to afford it! That’s insanely irresponsible!
October 11th, 2007 at 8:35 pmNo one is smearing a 12-year old boy. Read what has been written in response to their “sample†case. Comment by frankoharris — October 11, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
Yes you are, you are smearing him, and his family.
The facts are that this kid’s family is not poor. Comment by frankoharris — October 11, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
They are considered to be a struggling working class family, if you had read the ‘facts’ or knew anything about the system you’d be aware that the truly poor are under medicaid - not SCHIP!
They own their own home and other commercial properties. Comment by frankoharris — October 11, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
Inexpensive items they bootstrapped - as any entrepreneur american should be encouraged to do. None of that changes the fact that their income is very low for the area they live in, especially for a family of 6!
They can afford to get their own health insurance without the government paying for it. They choose not to. Comment by frankoharris — October 11, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
That’s the SMEAR. They were turned down by 3 insurance companies because of pre-existing conditions - that’s exactly what SCHIP is designed to help with! Not only the high price of insurance, but the fact that insurance companies aren’t required to offer it, or give a good rate to people if they don’t want to!
If you want to obfuscate the argument by throwing around silly accusations, fine. Comment by frankoharris — October 11, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
Like what you just did? Pure projection.
You deserve to be forced into third-rate healthcare by an already bloated and inefficient federal government while you sit around and avoid the real argument by tossing around partisan insults. Comment by frankoharris — October 11, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
As opposed to the already bloated third-rate insurance run healthcare we have that puts us in line with CUBA instead of the first world?
You wingnuts are insane liars, period!
October 11th, 2007 at 8:38 pmThere are several reasons that healthcare is irrationally expensive. One major reason is lawsuits and medical liability insurance.
Comment by frankoharris — October 11, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
Bullshit. A 10 minute ultrasound procedure on my gallbladder 5 years ago cost over $600. Are you going to blame that on all the lawsuits against specialists who administer them? Got any proof?
October 11th, 2007 at 9:55 pmChetry and Roberts are spys for Fake News. The are nothing more than butt kissing idiots who favor Republicans. I’m going to stop watching CNN now because they are too closely aligned with Fake News. The next thing you know Bill Orally will be on CNN. CNN stand for Chickens Nothing Now. Meaning that they are so scared of Fake News, they can’t tell the truth about Bush or anything else.
Wolf Biltzer is a COWARD who kisses up to Fake News too. Now all of the anchors are falling over themselves to try to please Repubicans. What these idiots don’t realize is the weak Democrats are about to win the the Presidency in spite of CNN and Fox’s attempt to elect Rudy (COWARD) JulieAnnE. I spell it that way because he dresses in women’s clothing.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:31 pmRoberts is a wingnut pimp on the order of limpballs, oliely, insanity, etc,
October 11th, 2007 at 11:42 pm#81: “Notice that libs don’t attack the children that Pres. Bush “used†in his pathetic “snowflake baby†propoganda, but that right-whiiners are more than happy to atttack anyone”
Actually, libs did attack the donors and recipients of the Snowflake babies, and the Bush Administration for favoring the program, as can readily be found by Googling “snowflakes bush” (no quotes).
See for example “Bush’s Snowflake adoption program discriminates on basis of religion, sexual orientation” at americablog; “Bush Snubs Science in Deference to Snowflakes” at huffingtonpost; and “Sight Of Bush With Snowflake Babies Makes Time Columnist [Joe Klein] ‘Want To Throw Up’ ” as Klein was quoted on the Chris Matthews Show.
Strictly speaking, I don’t think anyone was directly attacking the Snowflake babies, but I also don’t think anyone has directly attacked Graeme Frost; they’ve attacked his parents and the politicians who used him.
But at any rate, attacking a 12-year-old who’s made a political speech would not be quite the same thing as attacking a pre-schooler for appearing in a photo-op.
October 12th, 2007 at 9:24 amComment by DWPittelli — October 12, 2007 @ 9:24 am
But did the Democrats attack the parents of the snowflake babies and accuse them of not deserving their children? Did leftwing bloggers make the effort to go to the homes of the snowflake babies to make sure they were being treated well, were being fed and clothed well, and not being abused? Did liberal radio hosts accuse Republicans of putting lies into the heads of the snowflake children? No? Didn’t think so.
October 12th, 2007 at 3:25 pmSee for example “Bush’s Snowflake adoption program discriminates on basis of religion, sexual orientation.â€
And you don’t have a problem with that? How is that attacking the children or the parents? I read the Americablog article, and nowhere do I find an attack on the parents or donors. I do find legitimate questions on the program being discriminatory.
October 12th, 2007 at 3:30 pmJesus commanded we give free healthcare - why is the GOP so ANTI-CHRISTIAN?
Matthew 10:8
“Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.â€
Comment by republicans hate facts — October 11, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
Being forced by the govt. to pay higher taxes under threat of tax evasion and jail time is not “free giving”. To give freely requires a voluntary act. Taxes are not given freely - they are forced upon the people. The GOP is not anti-christian. Which party is striving to remove “God” from the pledge of allegiance? I think you’ve got the wrong party.
October 12th, 2007 at 3:48 pm