Gibson: Whites commit suicide, blacks ’shoot and move on.’
By on Oct 11th, 2007 at 6:19 pm
Gibson: Whites commit suicide, blacks ’shoot and move on.’
A student in Cleveland yesterday shot four people at a high school before killing himself. On his radio show that day, Fox News’s John Gibson claimed that he “could tell right away” that the shooter was white:
He killed himself. Hip-hoppers do not kill themselves. They walk away. Now, I didn’t need to hear the kid was white with blond hair. Once he’d shot himself in the head, no hip-hopper. [...]
And I could tell right away ’cause he killed himself. Black shooters don’t do that; they shoot and move on.
Listen to the segment here.
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This is disgustingly racist in sooooo many different ways...I don't even know where to start.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:21 pmoh for cryin' out loud!
October 11th, 2007 at 6:24 pmJohn Gibson: Ugliest clairvoyant ever
October 11th, 2007 at 6:24 pmHis noose is showing. Racism is running wild these days.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:25 pmOkay, so John Gibson is a racist and flaunts that fact on television. Nothing new there.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:28 pmWell, it looks like Gibbie wants to add to his collection of "Worst Person in the World" medals. I predict he will share the podium tonight with Coultergeist ("perfected Christians" remark) and Bush (renegging on supporting declaration of murders of Armenians after WWI as "genocide".) Hard to guess what order they'll be in.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:28 pmA bigoted republican? Who knew?
October 11th, 2007 at 6:32 pmI'm not so sure this is a "racist" comment, and maybe just more of a "astonishingly tasteless and blatantly stupid" one.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:33 pmJohn Gibson is jealous of all the attention Bill O'Reilly got for being a racist, so he did what he had to do.
I still think O'Reilly is the one we have to keep an eye on. He is about to abandon sanity for good:
The O’Reilly Fear Factor: They’re Coming To Take Me Away
October 11th, 2007 at 6:34 pmI'm surprised he didnt rant about arming students and how a school full of 14 year olds with guns could have prevented it.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:35 pmy'know... there are stereotypes and cliches for a reason...
ooooooh... i know... i'm bad... such thoughts... so bad...
but i really do wonder what the STATS are for this...
i'm not really bad... but very curious...
maybe it's true... anyone know for sure? ... one way or another?
anyone?
October 11th, 2007 at 6:36 pm.
Ha ha -- I agree, Wayne.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:36 pmGibson is remarkably racist and bigoted.
I don't understand why these people remain in the air, except that they appeal to the least common denominators of society. Ann Coulter is an anti-semite; if anyone had any doubt -- even her rightwing supporters may have trouble justifying her latest remarks.
And, by Semite, I mean the entire semitic peoples of the world, which includes Jews, Arabs and others in the region.
A true christian would be ashamed of her representation of their creed.
All black kids are hip-hoppers. The things I learn each day.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:39 pmWhy is this network letting bigots and a$$holes report news on their channel. Why any channel with any integrity at all would fire these......
Oh, it's Fox News....
Never mind.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:40 pmI’m not so sure this is a “racist†comment, and maybe just more of a “astonishingly tasteless and blatantly stupid†one.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — October 11, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
Did you read the Media Matters article to go with it? The context shows it was blatantly racist from the beginning. Of course, "racist" is a pretty charged word, and racism can be found in and on many levels. But, IMHO, Gibbie's remarks (in context) were more racist than O'Reilly's comments about Sylvia's, but the racism is clearly there.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:40 pmI’m not so sure this is a “racist†comment, and maybe just more of a I’m not so sure this is a “racist†comment, and maybe just more of a “astonishingly tasteless and blatantly stupid†one.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — October 11, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
Sorry, I must respectfully disagree
This was definitely racist.
But I do concur on the “astonishingly tasteless and blatantly stupid†part.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:45 pmThe last time a "hip-hopper" shot up a school was......?
October 11th, 2007 at 6:47 pmIf he was real perceptive, he'd note that the distinguishing feature would seem to be: Whites seem to be the ones most likely to go on murderous shooting rampages....
(granted, perhaps not more often than their relative prevalence in the population, perhaps not at any statistically significant greater level than expected)
Cheers,
October 11th, 2007 at 6:50 pmWhy, oh WHY! does Faux and CNN keep bringing these KKKlowns up front and center all the time? OHHHH! It appeals to their demographic base; bigoted, racist, low IQers, sucking on anything dangled in front of them, pre-digested and mainlined right into their little feral brains.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:51 pmThe last time a “hip-hopper†shot up a school was……?
Comment by Zooey — October 11, 2007 @ 6:47 pm
Yay! You're home.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:52 pmwhites and ASIANS...i guess
October 11th, 2007 at 6:53 pmBut, IMHO, Gibbie’s remarks (in context) were more racist than O’Reilly’s comments about Sylvia’s, but the racism is clearly there.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — October 11, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Sorry, I was being sarcastic. Yes, it is racist, but it's even more stupid and tasteless. I agree- Gibosn is one of the biggest horse's asses on Fox. I have no idea why ANYONE takes this guy seriously. He and Glen Beck are like the "Twins From Hell". Racist? yeah... and astonishingly stupid and blatantly tasteless too!
October 11th, 2007 at 6:56 pmmarie - are you planning to march in chicago on the 27th?
i'm tentatively planning to be there... can stay at my daughter's -
and drag her with me!
also - i plagiarized a comment of yours in a letter-to-editor that you helped me write last week... thank you... didn't have time to ask
October 11th, 2007 at 6:56 pmpermission... the subject, my thoughts, your comment just came
together in 2 days time... about how repugs are blocking dems...
thanks again!
Why doesn't somebody, black or white put a cap in Gibson's ass? I'm not saying I want anybody killed, but I'd like this idiot to find out what being a victim of a shooting feels like.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:57 pmshayne? chicago peace/anti war march - 10/27?
October 11th, 2007 at 6:58 pmComment by Zooey — October 11, 2007 @ 6:47 pm
Hi Zooey
October 11th, 2007 at 7:00 pmYay! You’re home.
Comment by Candyce — October 11, 2007 @ 6:52 pm
Yay! :-)
When are you going to visit the Zoo?
October 11th, 2007 at 7:03 pmhe's so right! remember in 'coffee and cigarettes' when rza and gza shot bill murray and then moved on?
p.s.--mr. gibson, you had me at "hip-hoppers." holla at ya boy!
October 11th, 2007 at 7:05 pmI could tell right away from reading that statement that it was a white Fox News idiot who said it. He made the comment and moved on without apologizing. If left wing and sane people say something stupid like that, they apologize and may resign. But Fox News idiots do not apologize.
October 11th, 2007 at 7:10 pmComment by Vincennes — October 11, 2007 @ 7:10 pm
Fantastic!!
October 11th, 2007 at 7:11 pmBut Fox News idiots do not apologize.
Comment by Vincennes — October 11, 2007 @ 7:10 pm
No they don't.
October 11th, 2007 at 7:13 pmThey swiftboat anyone who disagrees
john gibson, fox news criminal profiler!
(time for another "war on christmas" john?)
October 11th, 2007 at 7:15 pmWhen are you going to visit the Zoo?
Comment by Zooey — October 11, 2007 @ 7:03 pm
I read the Zoo every day (very good blog!). I had some issues trying to sign in and gave up, but I'll try again.
October 11th, 2007 at 7:18 pmThanks, Candyce. If you continue to have trouble, let me know, and I'll send an email to wordpress. :)
October 11th, 2007 at 7:22 pmI read about a murder-suicide almost every day somewhere in the US. It often follows domestic problems. Every time I think to myself: "further proof the death penalty is NOT a deterrent. They chose the death penalty for themselves because they did not want to live any longer. They certainly did not want to live another fifty years in a tiny prison cell!".
October 11th, 2007 at 7:26 pmHey Zooster,
Did your senator claim he propositioned the cop because he was afraid of Blacks? Or was that the other Republican? And you elect him to the "Stall of Shame"! How classy.
October 11th, 2007 at 7:29 pmOh Zooey, I started a rumour that you get all your educational training from Moscow. Hope you don't mind.
October 11th, 2007 at 7:32 pmKeith,
You're laughing at my shame. **sniff**
BTW, I had nothing to do with Tappy McWideStance being nominated to the Stall of Fame.
I definitely have after-party ideas though....
October 11th, 2007 at 7:33 pmUh, "Gibby", right wing terrorists Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolf both turned tail and ran away after they committed their murders.
October 11th, 2007 at 7:37 pmHow does Gibson feel about any American having easy access to any number of military-style assault weapons?
My best friend between the age of 15 and 23 (Wayne LaPierre head of today's N.R.A.) always said how much he hated "gun nuts".
He lies about where he went to university to hide his left-wing activity at S.U.N.Y.-Albany. He got out of 'Nam by falsely claiming a nervous condition.
October 11th, 2007 at 7:48 pmOh Zooey, I started a rumour that you get all your educational training from Moscow. Hope you don’t mind.
Comment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
Just the book learnin', Keith. ;)
October 11th, 2007 at 7:49 pmI thank God yet again that I NEVER watch these idiots on tv. Why would anyone want to get their information from such an obviously bogus individual? They've got opinions on every subject under the sun, and yet obviously base those opinions on . . . what? Nothing. They just pull this kind of opinion right out of their fundaments.
"Well, you see, your average run of the mill pickaninny who shoots up his school is too cowardly to shoot himself. He just drops his nine and jumps into his hooptie before five oh be arriving."
"Racist? Me?"
Could someone please ask him what his dataset for this opinion might be? All those thousands of black kids who have shot up their schools?
What a moron.
October 11th, 2007 at 7:54 pmJust the book learnin’, Keith. ;)
Comment by Zooey — October 11, 2007 @ 7:49 pm
Das Kapital?
October 11th, 2007 at 7:55 pmThat's a confirmation.
I seem to remember the Columbine shooters killing themselves.
Gibson is an idiot...
October 11th, 2007 at 7:57 pmI didn't need to hear the reporter was a fascist from Fox. I could tell right away 'cause he's a racist moron.
October 11th, 2007 at 7:59 pmBut the Arkansas boys didn't shoot themselves.
What a moron this Gibson is.
October 11th, 2007 at 8:00 pmGregor,
Gibson is saying Whites kill themselves and Blacks don"t. Don't ask me--that's just what he's saying.
October 11th, 2007 at 8:00 pmDas Kapital?
That’s a confirmation.
Comment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
We've touched on Marx, but I really hope I don't have to read all that. ;)
October 11th, 2007 at 8:03 pmComment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
I clicked "Post" too soon.
I was trying to point out that sometimes shooters kill themselves, and sometimes they don't, regardless of skin color.
Did I mention Gibson is an idiot?
October 11th, 2007 at 8:04 pmGibson is saying Whites kill themselves and Blacks donâ€t. Don’t ask me–that’s just what he’s saying.
Comment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
I guess Gibson is thinking that the white boys killing themselves is "honorable?"
October 11th, 2007 at 8:04 pmOr are your Moscow professors more Stalinist?
October 11th, 2007 at 8:05 pmOr are your Moscow professors more Stalinist?
Comment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 8:05 pm
they're a bunch of frickin' liberals! (thank goodness)
Ask anyone. I'd say more Marxist. ;)
October 11th, 2007 at 8:07 pmOh yes, after killing all your classmates, it is far more honorable to turn the gun on yourself. That's what Jefferson Davis would have wanted.
October 11th, 2007 at 8:08 pmOh yes, after killing all your classmates, it is far more honorable to turn the gun on yourself. That’s what Jefferson Davis would have wanted.
Comment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
IMHO both acts are pure cowardice.
October 11th, 2007 at 8:10 pmComment by Vincennes @ 7:10 pm - excellent...
guess i should appologize for my stupid comment...
i thought for sure i would catch hell for it...
what gibson said was stupid and racist in the WAY he said it...
but i still wonder if the premise might be factual...
it's amazing that the tv wingers can say, out loud, what many people think, somehow giving permission for even more racism...
October 11th, 2007 at 8:36 pm...
John Gibson - "Whites commit suicide..."
Here's to hoping Gibson proves his theory correct...
October 11th, 2007 at 8:53 pmTRoS,
You say you're a super white guy. Where are you on the "Gibson white scale?" ;)
October 11th, 2007 at 8:56 pmIf he was real perceptive, he’d note that the distinguishing feature would seem to be: Whites seem to be the ones most likely to go on murderous shooting rampages….
,
Comment by Arne Langsetmo — October 11, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
Actually, Columbine-type killers are almost EXCLUSIVELY young white men. I read a book written by one of the first FBI profilers, "Inside a Killer's Mind"??? He talked about the difference between spree killers - Charlie Starkweather, serial killers - Gacey, and mass murderers - Richard Speck, I think, amongst other things.
The Columbine type? Almost EXCLUSIVELY young white males.
October 11th, 2007 at 8:58 pmhere are you on the “Gibson white scale?†;)
Comment by Zooey — October 11, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
Hey... you've seen my picture... one of the most feared carnivores on the PLANET, Baby!!!
October 11th, 2007 at 8:59 pmThat’s what Jefferson Davis would have wanted.
Comment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
Huh??? WTF is this supposed to mean?? Talk about "bragging rights loony"... give Keith here a ribbon for "Best of Show"!!!!
October 11th, 2007 at 9:01 pmHey… you’ve seen my picture… one of the most feared carnivores on the PLANET, Baby!!!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — October 11, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
You need some color, babes.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:04 pmYou need some color, babes.
Comment by Zooey — October 11, 2007 @ 9:04 pm
Geez, if I had color, how would I sneak around on the ice, catching sea... hmmm, I see yer point...
October 11th, 2007 at 9:07 pmI don't think Gibson realizes that "hip-hoppers" are just as likely to be white than black, judging from who's buying the music and copping the clothing styles. Gibson and other Fox news personalities make these sort of comments regularly in order to drive home the fact that they are anti-PC, that they will speak their minds, etc. They enjoy the notoriety it brings them (the people at Fox love the attention), and they don't care one bit about any backlash from upset Black people (and why should they?).
The problem with deliberately trying to be super anti-PC is that it reveals a lot of the ignorance lurking beneath the veil of self-censorship. Gibson's use of "hip-hoppers" for "Black" shows how ignorant he is not only of Black people, but of hip-hop/R&B-loving white people as well (whom, as I said, are by far the biggest consumers of hip hop).
Some people are too dumb to be embarassed by their own ignorance...
October 11th, 2007 at 9:24 pmThat’s what Jefferson Davis would have wanted.
Comment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
Huh??? WTF is this supposed to mean?? Talk about “bragging rights loonyâ€â€¦ give Keith here a ribbon for “Best of Showâ€!!!!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — October 11, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
Hey, Keith... sorry about this. Thought you were a troll at first.
My bad...
October 11th, 2007 at 9:29 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — October 11, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
That was a lousy attempt at sarcasm on my part. Trying to express what might be in the head of someone like Gibson. Is he saying killing classmates and then yourself is superior to just killing your classmates? How do these people think, anyway?
October 11th, 2007 at 9:42 pmTRoS, you always liked my humour. Remember, hunt for ivory in Alabama because Tuscaloosa there.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:44 pmHow do these people think, anyway?
Comment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 9:42 pm
We always say that, but I don't think we really want to know...
October 11th, 2007 at 9:45 pmZooey, I know Jefferson Davis is still big with the Republican base today.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:50 pmZooey, I know Jefferson Davis is still big with the Republican base today.
Comment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
Bunch of frickin' losers. ;)
October 11th, 2007 at 9:51 pmBunch of frickin’ losers. ;)
Comment by Zooey
So you are saying JD was only bad because he lost?
October 11th, 2007 at 9:53 pmSo you are saying JD was only bad because he lost?
Comment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
Not caring about the dead guy, Keith. ;)
I want to keep my eye on the live ones.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:58 pmRacism aside, Gibson's default assumption doesn't hold up anymore:
1) the Atlanta killings were done by a black man, who was free to keep killing, because police and the media told everyone to look for a white man.
2) the snipers that killed so many around DC were both black, and again, they alluded police for a good while, because everyone was looking for a white man.
3) OJ nearly killed himself before being taken into custody (or that's what news reports stated at the time of his arrest).
If you want evidence of the slow assimulation of blacks into mainstream society, you only need to look at the slow increase in mass / serial killers that are black.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:34 pmZooey, I know Jefferson Davis is still big with the Republican base today.
Comment by Keith — October 11, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
Why would Republicans support a traitor to the United States of America? Why would anyone show honor or loyalty to the Confederacy? If you do, then you must hate the United States of America. No joke. However misguided the Confederates were, they were traitors.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:38 pmI find most of the diehard Republicans I know even in my personal life are racists.
Gibson has made racist comments in the past, so this latest does not surprise me at all. In fact, if you look at ALL the most popular right-wing pundits, from Rush Limbaugh, to Bill O'Reilly, to Ann Coulter, to Michelle Malkin, to Michael Savage, to Glenn Beck, to Tucker Carlson. They've all made not only racist comments, but sometimes outright violent comments about other races, ethnicities, or sexual orientations. Malkin and Limbaugh seem especially obsessed with race.
The Bush administration came to power by suppressing African-American votes, most notably in Florida and Ohio.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:39 pmI knew that most if not all of the Fox News anchors were racist, but I never thought Gibson would be stupid enough to admit it. This guy belongs to the Ku Klux Klan and he's proud of it. Ruppard Murdock makes sure that his so called journalist spread as much hate as they can, so he can start a race war and then take over the country.
John Gibson just said what Sean Hannity and the other racists like Brit Hume, Tony Snow, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and Michelle Milken wanted to say. These people are a perfect example of what Republicans stand for. They are the party of hate, the party of extremist, and the party who intends to establish a new NAZI system of government in the United States.
Why else would a group of highly paid millionaires speak such blantantly racist things. At least skinny Ann Coulter hates white liberals as much as he hates blacks. The only blacks they can stand are uncle Toms like Clarence Thomas and Aunt Jamamia like Condelessa Rice. That's because the can't laugh at them behind their backs and tell racist jokes to them to their face.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:52 pmI wonder if "Ethnic Cleansing" starts this way.
Black against White, Gay against Straight, Conservatives against Liberals.
Preach hatred as Gibson does long enough and we may find ourselves in just such a condition.
When an Advertiser supports Gibson's show you wonder how "Honest" the company is that wants us to watch Gibson and then buy their advertised stuff.
Sure I will.....
October 11th, 2007 at 11:01 pmJohn Gibson has been making racist comments like this for years. No big surprises here. He continues to have a job because the people he works for, and his primary audience, are also racist. For them, it's somehow courageous and virtuous to say these "un-PC"--i.e. racist--things.
October 12th, 2007 at 12:45 amMr Gibson is to be pitied. So many of the right wing seem to be soulless.
October 12th, 2007 at 3:08 amGibson should take up shooting.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:28 am