ThinkFast: October 11, 2007
ThinkFast: October 11, 2007
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) said, “President Bush and the Republicans should lay off Graeme Frost and all the other children who are getting health care.” She added, “I thought I’d seen the depth of political partisanship and mean spiritedness but the Republicans and their right wing allies have really taken the cake this time.”
A poll done for Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) “found that 70 percent of registered voters think President Bush’s $200 billion Iraq war supplemental spending request should be rejected or conditioned on redeployment.”
“The Marine Corps is pressing to remove its forces from Iraq and to send marines instead to Afghanistan, to take over the leading role in combat there, according to senior military and Pentagon officials.”
In a transcript released yesterday, GOP lawyer Jill Simpson divulged more details about her claim that Karl Rove pushed the Justice Department to bring corruption charges against former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman (D). Simpson recalled how Rob Riley, current Gov. Bob Riley’s (R) son, boasted of a plan to “hang Don Siegelman.”
The United Nations urged U.S. authorities to establish mechanisms to hold security contractors accountable “for unjustified killings and to ensure that offenses committed in Iraq ‘by all categories of U.S. contractor employees’ are subject to prosecution.”
The AP reports that the State Department “may phase out or limit the use of private security guards in Iraq, which could mean canceling Blackwater USA’s contract or awarding it to another company in line with an Iraqi government demand.”
Because of “lengthy and repeated war-zone tours,” the Army is facing a “projected shortfall of about 3,000 captains and majors for every year through 2013.” In an “unprecedented bid to forestall” this “critical shortage of officer ranks,” the Army is “offering cash bonuses of up to $35,000 to retain young officers.”
A new study finds that the “amount of moisture in the air near Earth’s surface rose 2.2 percent in less than three decades.” Researchers note that this increase in humidity bears the “man-made fingerprint of global warming.”
And finally: “Staffers at the Senate Press Gallery have been noticing heavy usage on one of their printers in recent weeks and set out to find out why.” Launching a “quiet investigation,” one staffer “discovered a suspicious file in the computer and printed it out.” The file turned out to be “page after page from the Daily Racing Form.” Staffers suspect either “someone from the cleaning crew or a reporter staying late at night.”
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You can bet that if the State Department phases out Blackwater, they will attempt to do so as quietly as possible. Blackwater has become an embarrassment to them — both in Iraq and with the American public here. They’ve got a bit of a problem, since they seem to be quite allergic to doing anything that suggests they might have made a mistake.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:09 amBlackwater isn’t going anywhere. That isn’t how the Bush administration does things. At most they will be re-branded with a different name. It will be the same people and the same b*llsh*t.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:11 amAnd what’s to stop Erik Prince from starting a whole new company called “Backwalter” whose employees are all former Blackwater people?
October 11th, 2007 at 9:12 amIn an “unprecedented bid to forestall†this “critical shortage of officer ranks,†the Army is “offering cash bonuses of up to $35,000 to retain young officers.â€
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If we cut our contract with Blackwater, we will probably have to pay our military Blackwater rates just to get the personnel we need to continue this idiocy.
When oh when will our IIC admit that if we are to continue invading and occupying other countries, we need to reinstate the draft?
October 11th, 2007 at 9:14 amThe United States ranks 14th on the 2007 Commitment to Development Index. Although some of our trade and FDI policies help developing countries, these positives are far outweighed by our collective environmental damage, low and restricted foreign aid outlays, and refusal to commit to the Kyoto Protocol.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:17 amAnd finally: “Staffers at the Senate Press Gallery have been noticing heavy usage on one of their printers in recent weeks and set out to find out why.†Launching a “quiet investigation,†one staffer “discovered a suspicious file in the computer and printed it out.†The file turned out to be “page after page from the Daily Racing Form.†Staffers suspect either “someone from the cleaning crew or a reporter staying late at night.â€
If the Washington press corps is unable to fact-check the many lies coming out of the Bush administration (literally from day one with the false allegations of wide-spread vandalism), then I doubt they could be much help in tracking fown those responsible for this (even if it was one of them).
October 11th, 2007 at 9:20 amThe file turned out to be “page after page from the Daily Racing Form.†Staffers suspect either “someone from the cleaning crew or a reporter staying late at night.â€
I suspect it’s a reporter. We all know how obsessed the Washington press corps is with the horserace of campaign politics.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:22 amThe Commandant of the Marine Corps wants to pull the USMC out of Iraq. Does this mean he’s a “phoney Marine”?.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:28 amN.O. citizen activists spreading the word
Message: The city is coming back
Tuesday, October 09, 2007
By Bruce Nolan
The Times-Picayune
http://www.nola.com/ news/ t-p/ frontpage/ index.ssf?/ base/ news-9/ 119191143958130.xml&coll=1
October 11th, 2007 at 9:30 am.
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Some references in the article may be obscure to the larger audience;
“Tulane and Broad ” is the street intersection (actually, Tulane Avenue and South Broad Street) at which the criminal and civil courts and parish prison are located.
“Mignon Faget” is a local artist, specializing in fine jewelry and furnishings.
“The Marine Corps is pressing to remove its forces from Iraq…” More proof the Marine Corps is smarter than the Army.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:30 amStaffers suspect either “someone from the cleaning crew or a reporter staying late at night.â€
And why is that. Is it not possible the perp is one of their regular employees?
October 11th, 2007 at 9:31 amMarine Corps moving to Afghanistan? How about being 5 years too late??
This is where they should have been sent 5 years ago if they seriously thought that Osmaa was the real “boogeyman”; obviously, his being our boogeyman was all talk or they would have been there and not in Iraq. Duh!
October 11th, 2007 at 9:34 amLooks like Bob Riley will “hang himself” in the process! This all needs thorough investigation. This congress is up to it’s armpits in alligators with investigations - if one criminal GOPher is outed daily, they won’t be able to get to anything else.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:35 amWhat the wingnuts have done to the Frost family is unconscionable. They like to use the word “slander” like a comma (and almost always incorrectly) in their rantings when complaining about “the evil libruls”, but in this case they have produced a case of their own where the word “slander” is appropriate.
What, exactly, has the Frost family done to deserve having their address made public? Their eligibility for SCHIP being challenged? Being publicly accused of fraud? And generally vilified by the right? Let’s see — apparently two children who are eligible for SCHIP got in an auto accident, required a great deal of expensive medical care, and the family praised the SCHIP program for helping them. I guess in the eyes of the right, if you get a helping hand of any kind, you should keep your mouth shut or face the consequences.
First, the wingnuts accused the SCHIP supporters of exploiting children to make political points (never mind that they do it, too). When that fell flat, they decided to ruin the lives of the Frost family. To accomplish what, exactly? Even IF they were to successfully expose the Frost family as crooks and frauds (which they didn’t, by the way), was this supposed to mean that there were no people in the country eligible for SCHIP, and so the program shouldn’t be funded? What kind of logic are they going for here?
No — the only reason for attempting to destroy the Frost family was just plain mean-spiritedness. Malkin and all her ilk should be ashamed, and hopefully the American public can see these petty rats for what they are.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:35 amComment by Wayne A. Schneider — October 11, 2007 @ 9:20 am
However, it does explain where they’ve been for the last six years: Pimlico.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:36 amHey, toaster, great link.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:37 amAnd once again, the Dems begin their rolling-over trick to give Bush what he wants. This time, on the FISA bill. Of course, what they should do is simply let the changes made in August expire in Feb.
“Bush and other administration officials have signaled they will reject legislation that does not include legal immunity for the telecom firms, many of which face lawsuits for helping to conduct domestic surveillance after the Sept. 11 attacks. Telecom firms are lobbying forcefully behind the scenes for such a provision, which was not included in the temporary law passed earlier this year.
House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) has signaled that Democrats may be willing to negotiate on the immunity issue if the administration tells Congress more about the nature of, and legal justification for, its post-9/11 surveillance activities.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2007/ 10/ 10/ AR2007101001047.html?wpisrc=newsletter
October 11th, 2007 at 9:38 amBush is NOT going to give up his private army. He will need them to protect him from a military coup when he declares martial law and cancels the election. I am frankly mystified at why the Congress is ignoring the Presidential Order he signed giving himself the ability to declare martial law. Actually, I a mystified at Congress allowing him to do half the things that he has done. I am very afraid that the Democrats really do want the kind of powers that Bush has bestowed on himself. It would be interesting, though, to see the Republicans reaction when a Democratic president used the powers Bush has bestowed upon himself. They can hardly complain since Bush is the one who set the precedent. But, I am sure they will find some illogical reason to complain.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:38 amYou know Eric Prince is getting his payback for the hundreds of thousands of dollars he pumped into GOP campaigns. As well, his sister (DeVos?) was the Michigan State Rethug Chair - give me a break here. Blackwater with it “no bid contract” is no different than Cheney’s Haliburton No Bid “Contract - both thugs making big money off the american taxpayer!
When will the people wake up and realize that they’re footing the bill for these charades. When will the people reinstate our own rule of law which states that the “one hiring the hitman is equally guilty as the one pulling the trigger”??
Bremer pulled a swift one on us and the Iraqis by providing “immunity” for the crimes of Blackwater - something which was craftily slipped under the rug on all of us. It’s time to reverse this and hold Blackwater totally responsible under the law for any/all crimes they’ve committed.
I’ve read that a 10 year old boy was involved in this last horrendous melee and an eyewitness mentioned seeing his mother dragging his limp body from the scene. In addition to the murdered, there were 24 injured. The full report notes a Blackwater helicopter summoned to the scene who just shot indiscriminately into the Square. This is disgusting!
October 11th, 2007 at 9:40 amIf martial law is ever installed in this country, take three guesses who will be shooting at americans? None other than this trained group of hitmen, mercenaries, and outright murderers.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:42 amStaffers suspect either “someone from the cleaning crew or a reporter staying late at night.â€
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Which doesn’t make as interesting a story as it would if the Senate Press Corps was running a bookie joint on the side. Darn.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:42 amBilbo: We’ve done it again! this is too much. I was typing about martial law and Bush’s private army and then I scroll up two posts and see that you’ve said the same thing. Too funny.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:42 am#14 - Bravo missmolly! Well said.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:42 amThe subtext here is: Run against a Republican, and they will find a way to send you to jail and/or ruin you.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:43 amComment by missmolly — October 11, 2007 @ 9:35 am
Unfortunately for this country, well-known people on the right (Malkin, Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly, etc.) believe that it is a perfectly legitimate tactic in any debate on any issue to attack the personal integrity of the person making the argument, rather than attacking the argument itself on its merits. They know that if they have a valid argument to make, based on facts and not ideology, that they are right, they could use it. But when they don’t have any valid arguments, they feel that they have “won” the debate if they can smear the integrity of the person who beat them. (BTW, for all those who don’t think Malin attacked Graeme, ask yourself this: Would you consider an attack on your family to be an attack on you personally? If so, then you have to agree that Malkin attacked Graeme.)
To the right-wing extremists like Malkin (et al), being right is not the important thing, winning is. And that is why they are immoral.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:46 amWhat would be the cost of Bush’s War if you added in his mercenaries? What would be the death and maimed total? What a sick and evil little man Bush is, even if he is only following orders. A decent human would stand up to the Dick.
But Bush and the right wing pukes are so far past decency as a standard. Just when you think they couldn’t sink deeper into the sludge, they slime a 12 year old who dares speak up.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:46 am“President Bush and the Republicans should lay off Graeme Frost …”
But it is important that Reich-wingers come down swift and hard on this 12 year-old so as to teach all children that they should never speak out against the President.
What better way to achieve a compliant citizenry then to intimidate children into submission?
October 11th, 2007 at 9:46 amBilbo: I agree that Bush should have great trepidation about a military coup with all that he’s done to infuriate the people of this country as well as most of the world powers.
I would also tend to agree with you that there is no “other” reason for the Dems in Congress to be acting as overtly complicit as they have been and permitted this heinous abuse of power. Do they intend to continue it?
It reminds me of England during the reign of Henry VIII’s successors. During Mary (Bloody Mary’s) reign, the country was turned back to Catholicism and the non-catholics were persecuted, beheaded and burned at the stake - in Elizabeth’s reign, the “ins” became the “outs” and the same MO was perpetuated upon them.
I see this as a direct comparison to what may be occurring right now in our government. Woe to the Republicans if this is true and a Dem wins the White House in 08 - which is a foregone conclusion right now, despite any tampering with voting machines which may be planned right now.
Woe to the Repukes if the Dems continue this power grap and spree for they will be the ones running into exile immediately upon the transfer of power.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:47 amA poll done for Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) “found that 70 percent of registered voters think President Bush’s $200 billion Iraq war supplemental spending request should be rejected or conditioned on redeployment.â€
President Bush to American people: “la-la-la-la-la-la-I can’t hear you…”
October 11th, 2007 at 9:47 amDemocrats in Congress to President Bush: “OK, we’ll give you what you want, but this is the last time, and we really, really mean it this time…”
We’ve done it again! this is too much. I was typing about martial law and Bush’s private army and then I scroll up two posts and see that you’ve said the same thing. Too funny.
Comment by Veritas
What can I say. Brilliant minds think alike!
October 11th, 2007 at 9:48 amIt could surely become a case of “be careful what you ask for”!
October 11th, 2007 at 9:48 amHi missmolly!
October 11th, 2007 at 9:49 amI only wish that were true….that the dems recent cave-ins were the last straw - but, alas, I am forced to believe otherwise. All they are doing is posturing - pretending to be tough and care - for appearance sake.
When will the people wake up and realize that they’re footing the bill for these charades.
Comment by Veritas — October 11, 2007 @ 9:40 am
People will never wake up. They are too busy being in a frenzy over gay marriage and abortions. S-CHIP is the sad irony that is the Republican party - so vehemently opposed to “baby killing” but never willing to shed a dime for the kids after they’re born.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:50 amguess so,Bilbo.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:50 amIf martial law is ever installed in this country, take three guesses who will be shooting at americans? None other than this trained group of hitmen, mercenaries, and outright murderers.
Comment by Veritas — October 11, 2007 @ 9:42 am
Well, they might as well start writing my name on a few of their bullets (it will take more than one), because I would oppose them every way I could.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:50 amMalkin update…
Will she debate Ezra Klein on S-CHIP?
***Drumroll***
http://michellemalkin.com/ 2007/ 10/ 11/ my-reply-to-respectable-liberal-blogger-ezra-klein-and-his-fellow-travelers/
I think that’s a no.
Investigating sick children is apparently a full-time job.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:50 amI can’t seem to get the bubble of impending martial law out of my brain for some reason though I keep trying.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:50 amMalkin and all her ilk should be ashamed
Comment by missmolly — October 11, 2007 @ 9:35 am
HA!
When pigs sprout wings and acquire the necessary thrust-to-weight ratio to become airborne, maybe!
October 11th, 2007 at 9:52 amMichele Malkin again?? Slowly I turn….step by step…..inch by inch…..
October 11th, 2007 at 9:52 amremember that Abbott/Costello schtick?? Every time Malkin’s name is mentioned it’s like nails on a blackboard for me. This Repubscum whore is beginning to become redundant.
Malkin is the “poster gal” for attention: any kind of attention is great, even negative attention.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:53 amHi Toast! Malkin is like putting lipstick on a pig. And a pig who will never sprout wings and take flight.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:53 amWoe to the Republicans if this is true and a Dem wins the White House in 08 - which is a foregone conclusion right now, despite any tampering with voting machines which may be planned right now.
If the Democrats allow the Republicans to steal another election by tampering with voting machines, then they deserve to lose. I’m fairly sure that won’t happen for two reasons. The first is that the Republicans can’t fudge by more than 4%, otherwise it will be very apparent that they have tampered with the machines. That’s what happened in 2006. They fudged by 4% but the Democrats turned out in droves and their numbers were 6-8% higher, so the 4% wasn’t enough for a win. I often wonder how many more Democrats we would have in Congress if they hadn’t fudged by the 4%. The second reason why I don’t think they will be tampering again is that the Democrats are on to them and their methods. Also, there are Democratic Secretary of States in many of the swing states this time so there won’t be the opportunity to mess with the voting machines that there was with all the Republican Secretaries of State like Ken Blackman. The Republicans know their goose is cooked and will be well served not to try and steal another election. Because if they do try, the will be called out this time. I doubt any Democratic candidate this time would go silently into the night and not protest.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:53 amWhatever happened to the “War Czar,” Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute?
October 11th, 2007 at 9:55 amPeople will never wake up. They are too busy being in a frenzy over gay marriage and abortions.
Comment by dim wit — October 11, 2007 @ 9:50 am
Now that’s an unfair generalization! We’re also obsessed with MoveOn ads and Barack Obama’s wardrobe accessorization!
October 11th, 2007 at 9:55 amAnd I don’t think the Commandant of the Marine Corps has ever had his legitimacy even questioned, I don’t think he’s ever doctored or created his military record out of thin air, nor has he represented himself to be anything other than what he really is….so no, he does not qualify as a “phony Marineâ€.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
But, Right Wing Loon OBigFootInMouth, he is questioning the validity of the mission in Iraq. So in Rush Limpball’s opinion he would be a “phony soldier”.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:56 amHey Bigfoot: Wonder why he’s NOW putting troops in Afghanistan? Could it be that he knows OBL is NOT there?? hahahah! What a game! OBL becomes the boogeyman (who was once a family buddy and contractor of ours for the CIA - how convenient, eh?)…..Responsibility for 911 is placed (by Bush mind you - not directly by OBL except for the bogus OBL tape made by Bush & Associates)….so we attack Iraq? What kind of circular logic would that be? Your kind of circular logic, Bigfoot - your kind. Most individuals with more than a room temperature IQ do not engage in circular, twisted logic.
Evidently you do along with your ilk - Sure, let’s go to Afghanistan now - 5 years TOO LATE! Sure, that makes perfect sense….if you’re a handicapped moron.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:56 amHeigh-Ho, Heigh-Ho, it’s off to Afghanistan we go….with guns in hand, and Bin Laden long gone, Heigh-Ho, Heigh Ho!
October 11th, 2007 at 9:57 amKarl Rove pushed the Justice Department to bring corruption charges against former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman (D). Simpson recalled how Rob Riley, current Gov. Bob Riley’s (R) son, boasted of a plan to “hang Don Siegelman.â€
As a former resident of the crappy state of Alabama, it should be noted Siegelman IS corrupt as are his buddy Scrushy (of HealthSouth) and the current governor Bob Riley. Alabama politics have a great history based on corruption.
Since Siegelman was convicted for his crimes, I feel it only fair the Republicans now stand trial for theirs.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:58 amHi Toast! Malkin is like putting lipstick on a pig. And a pig who will never sprout wings and take flight.
Comment by Veritas — October 11, 2007 @ 9:53 am
For some reason I just got a visual of Ann Coulter dressed as the Wicked Witch unleashing a swarm of winged, lipsticked Malkin Monkeys, all the while cackling “fly, my pretties, fly!”
It’s gonna take a crapload of scotch to get that one out of my head.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:59 amWayne: Hanity, O’Reily, Limbaugh, Malkin - SCUMBAGS, ALL OF THEM.
It’s good for the people to see who the treasonous ones actually are - these guys have become the “enemy within”. Can’t wait for a dem prez to round them up all up for treason.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:59 amGreat visual, toaster! All in time for Halloween as well.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:59 amdim wit: Riley will be the next one taken down by his own corruption.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:00 amComment by bilbobaggins — October 11, 2007 @ 9:53 am
Don’t forget that there are now enough people who know about voter caging that it will be harder to pull off. All it takes is for people to be suspicious about ANYTHING coming to them via registered or certified mail requiring their signature. If even a small handful of people report suspicious registered mail in a caging area, it should be enough to trigger an investigation.
We must continue to publicize the mechanics of voter caging so victims will recognize when they are being targeted.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:01 amSure, let’s spend more money we don’t have in Afghanistan now, shall we? Bankruptcy is certain to be discovered when this moron leaves the WH.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:01 amGreat visual, toaster! All in time for Halloween as well.
Comment by Veritas — October 11, 2007 @ 9:59 am
True! Just add Dark Side of the Moon as the soundtrack to complete the experience…
October 11th, 2007 at 10:01 amFor some reason I just got a visual of Ann Coulter dressed as the Wicked Witch unleashing a swarm of winged, lipsticked Malkin Monkeys, all the while cackling “fly, my pretties, fly!â€
It’s gonna take a crapload of scotch to get that one out of my head.
Comment by toasterhead
Oh God, you have now sent me off to work with that visual in my head. Thanks a lot!
October 11th, 2007 at 10:02 ammissmolly: Two great resources for staying on top of the vote caging tactics, DRE hacking, etc. would be - http://www.blackboxvoting.org (Bev Harris site and the ones who produced that great documentary on HBO entitled “Hacking Democracy” - a must see if you want your skin to crawl)….also http://www.bradblog.com who also brings national stories of vote corruption to the light. Both great and informative sites. Highly recommend them before going to the polls!
October 11th, 2007 at 10:03 amCoultergeist gives me nightmares. I can’t believe that’s a woman there in that skimpy black clothing - ewwwww…..
October 11th, 2007 at 10:04 amGood golly, Missmolly, I sure do like your posts!
October 11th, 2007 at 10:04 am“The file turned out to be “page after page from the Daily Racing Form.†Staffers suspect either “someone from the cleaning crew or a reporter staying late at night.â€
Maybe it was “plumbers”…
October 11th, 2007 at 10:06 amAs they say, “education is power” - empower yourselves by doing your own research of the state of our voting system. I’m not optimistic that this next election will not be hacked just like the last one was in Ohio. Soon Ken Blackwell and Diebold should be on the grill for what they did to get Chimpy a second term. Of course, Jebbie & Katherine Harris (and Tom Feeney perhaps???) rigged things in Florida in 2000 whose details are still coming out. What we have here is a “faux president” - one who should never have been installed to run this country.
Can you just imagine where we’d be right now with Clinton’s 8billion dollar surplus and Gore at the helm? Do you really think we’d be at war right now to fill the coffers of the GOP’s military machine?? I think not.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:06 amGee, project much, Wayne?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 11, 2007 @ 9:57 am
Not a projection, an observation. Your retort, BTW, was projection.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:06 amAnd I don’t think John Murtha has ever had his legitimacy even questioned, I don’t think he’s ever doctored or created his military record out of thin air, nor has he represented himself to be anything other than what he really is….so no, he does not qualify as a “phony Marineâ€.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 11, 2007 @ 9:53 am
Fixed that one for you. You’re welcome.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:07 amWell, they might as well start writing my name on a few of their bullets (it will take more than one), because I would oppose them every way I could.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — October 11, 2007 @ 9:50 am
I’m right there with you on that. I suspect we would not be alone.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:07 amThe “real fly in the ointment” vis-a-vis the GOP hacking the election this next time will be the overwhelming number of americans who would never vote Republican again in their lifetimes.
Couple that with the increasing number (well over l/3) of Independents who are largely leaning Democrat in their mindset and there will be NO WAY to cook the books and exit polls as they did in the past. If they attempt to do so, the citizens will take to the street themselves and overturn this government.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:08 amBig O retread,
Thanks for posting Wayne’s complete post again in your attempt to be snide, I missed it the first time and thought it was well written.
And Wayne, when Bush’s mercs come for you I have your back.
It won’t be Kent State again, this time we will be shooting back. And the 70% will be joined by a few of the Bush worshippers who come to their senses.
But really now, we are a long ways from martial law. We have a sick administration made up of sick people and defended by even sicker people, but we will right the ship in about a year and throw the traitors overboard.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:09 amBigfoot: Are you pulling Rush’s numbers out of your hair anus again? Prove what you say or slink back into your abyss.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:10 amComment by toasterhead — October 11, 2007 @ 9:59 am
http://themoderatevoice.com/?s=coulter+cartoon
4th one down, though the first is pretty accurate as well
October 11th, 2007 at 10:10 amGee, project much, Wayne?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 11, 2007 @ 9:57 am
And why would Wayne S infringe on your territory?
October 11th, 2007 at 10:10 amYour posts are such good examples of projection and weak strawmen, no one could dare compete with that.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — October 11, 2007 @ 9:46 amâ€
Hit the nail right on the foot. bigfoot that is.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:12 amNanlichi - I’d love to have your optimism about martial law but can you really put anything past this overreaching group of gangsters? This is what is giving the 911 truth movement more traction - we, as americans, have been brainwashed to believe that our government is looking out for our best interests. With this crime cabal, nothing could be further from the truth.
This is why logical people who have been keeping track of the criminal activities of this administration realize that staging or abetting others (hired mercenaries??? Seems to be the MO of this administration so why discount that possibility?)…..to launch the worst attack on american soil to begin the coup on our democracy? After all, PNAC - along with Bush 41, Cheney, & Rummy have had this in the works for decades.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:13 amWe may discover that the genesis of the dot-connecting is not the attack on Iraq but the pivotal point and intersection of everything criminal goes back to 911.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:14 amThat old Rush Limbaugh smear by Media Matters was shown to be poppycock days ago.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 11, 2007 @ 10:04 am
Got proof of that?
October 11th, 2007 at 10:14 amBecause Rush has just been digging his hole deeper.
Smearing a 12 year old boy set new lows for even Lush.
“The Marine Corps is pressing to remove its forces from Iraq and to send marines instead to Afghanistan, to take over the leading role in combat there, according to senior military and Pentagon officials.â€
sounds like someone knows where the fight really has been.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:15 amAfghanistan has been the forgotten battle but is a much more critical theater. I hope the Pentagon can see the wisdom of what the Marines are requesting.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:16 amHave you noticed that EVERY SINGLE NON-US CITIZEN posting here -that is, a foreigner- has never been in agreement with rightwingers?
That no foreginer classifies as a troll? That no foreigner agrees with Bush policies?
Have you noticed that most of the trolls here have never abandoned the US?
mmm…it is a blessing NOT to have Fox News and all that cheap propaganda grinding your mind all the time.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:17 amsounds like someone knows where the fight really has been.
Comment by bob h — October 11, 2007 @ 10:15 am
Sounds like someone knows the Iraq conflict is pure bullchit and Iraq is not where Osama Been Forgotten is.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:18 amg’morning… i’m late… and won’t be around much today…
i posted the following on tuesday and didn’t get a reply…
was hoping the FAST thread would help out…
i’d like to know the specifics… anyone?…
somebody help me out here, please…
listening to thom hartmann rebroadcast on XM…
he just told a story about sen. kennedy’s email being hacked into,
by some guy who worked for another senator - I MISSED THE NAME…
the dems were confounded by the way the repugs seemed to be a step ahead whenever they tried to put legislation out… then the dems figured out that kennedy’s email was being read by this guy… WHO?
evidently this guy quit, but there was no action taken…
October 11th, 2007 at 10:24 amapologies and move on… this was some years ago…
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Veritas,
I think you give them too much credit. Look at the sheer incompetency of this cabal. OBL had had his eye on the towers for a long time, it just took the incompetent and lazy ass Bush to take his eye off the ball long enough to get it done. The plan itself wasn’t even that difficult.
The right wing freaks did a great job of exploiting the disaster after it had happened though. They used the cover of 9/11 to jam their plans up America’s ass. Bush’s War never had anything to do with 9/11.
But if you are right about the martial law, “they have the guns but we have the numbers.”
And some of us have a few guns too.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:24 am“Let’s see….prior to the Media Matters smear, Rush Limbaugh had the largest radio audience in U.S. history….”
Because he draws a large audience his views are justified? Hitler drew a rather large audience himself.
There’s no accounting for brain dead trolls.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:28 amDems, acting sanctimonious about the victims they exploit by wheeling them out in front of cameras to do their fighting for them. Knowing that they personally no longer hold the clout to carry an issue themselves, Dems dupe innocents into taking the hits.
Cindy Sheehan’s life is ruined, having been used by the radical left to push an anti-war agenda, which the Dem Congress and Prez candidates have abandoned, leaving her without a cause and her husband - nice job guys.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:29 amLet’s see….prior to the Media Matters smear, Rush Limbaugh had the largest radio audience in U.S. history….
After the Media Matters smear….? Rush Limbaugh has the largest radio audience in U.S. history.
You do the math.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 11, 2007 @ 10:04 am
Hmmmm. So the math tells me that dittoheads never learn? Or that they can’t read a simple transcript? Or perhaps that they get all their “information” from Rush?
Huh. Good point.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:30 amMillions of people can and often have been wrong. Having a large audience for your personal views does not automatically validate the comments being made. It might make you feel personally validated to have such a well-known figure agree with you, but that doesn’t mean either one of you is right. Rush Limbaugh has a well-documented history of getting the facts wrong, and this dates back to well before Media Matters came along.
Was Rush right when he went on the air to annouce that Vine Foster had been murdered in an apartment owned by Hillary Clinton? No. Does the fact that he had millions of people listening to him tell that lie make it any more true? No.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:33 amHmmmm. So the math tells me that dittoheads never learn? Or that they can’t read a simple transcript? Or perhaps that they get all their “information†from Rush?
Huh. Good point.
Comment by gummitch — October 11, 2007 @ 10:30 am
The majority of dittoheads don’t believe in evolution, either: http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27847
Coincidence?
October 11th, 2007 at 10:34 amThis is why logical people who have been keeping track of the criminal activities of this administration realize that staging or abetting others (hired mercenaries??? Seems to be the MO of this administration so why discount that possibility?)…..to launch the worst attack on american soil to begin the coup on our democracy? After all, PNAC - along with Bush 41, Cheney, & Rummy have had this in the works for decades.
Comment by Veritas — October 11, 2007 @ 10:13 am
Veritas, the very idea that any of our leaders could have been responsible for the carnage on 9/11 is such an awful scenario that I admit I have resisted allowing myself to think that such a horrible thing would be possible.
But you must admit, whether the Bushney machine had anything to do with it or not — it was very convenient, wasn’t it? Even more convenient was Giuliani ordering all the debris hauled away and destroyed before any investigation could be done into the possibility of the scenario being anything other than what it appeared.
9/11 catapulted Bush’s favorability ratings into the stratosphere, it allowed for a compliant Congress to pretty much give Bush a blank check to do anything he wanted (like invade Iraq), and gave the neocons a mechanism to keep Americans in a state of fear. A perfect fit for the neocon vision. A little TOO perfect. No wonder some people smell something rotten here.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:36 ammissmolly - I consistently reject the conspiratorial aspect of the story, but sometimes it’s just damned hard. I know rationally that coincidences occur. Sometimes there are just so many coincidences here, I have to fight with myself. The latest is what we learned about Cheney this week, wherein:
Cheney was looking for a moment to “seize†power in the weeks before 9/11:
We are going to expand presidential power in any way we can. This was discussed in January 2001 at the first meeting of the White House legal team after the inauguration, long before 9/11. If an opportunity arises to expand presidential prerogatives, you will seize it.
Rather than believe that the administration was pro-active in 9-11, I believe they were inactive, waiting for that opportunity. It’s hard to understand why they ignored the warnings and “let” it happen unless you think they wanted something to happen that would give them the excuses to expand the executive. And that’s what I believe. I think 9-11 was bigger than anything they hoped for, but they were happy to exploit it for Cheney’s 30-yr-old plan to elevate the executive. Remember, when Bush was looking for a Veep he went to Cheney for advice on a candidate, and lo and behold, Cheney chose himself. he positioned himself nicely to take advantage of whatever opportunities might come along.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:59 am“when Bush was looking for a Veep he went to Cheney for advice on a candidate, and lo and behold, Cheney chose himself.”
Comment by Candyce
Firstly, why was Cheney consulted over the choice of a VP, if he wasn’t somehow in charge of matters, or at least the representative of those who were?
Secondly, I believe Cheney saw what a bumbling buffoon Bush is, and decided he needed to be close at hand.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:04 amHarry Reid made millionaries very happy . Thet get to to keep their billions or millions . Reid was supposed to pass legislation to make the equity fund managers pay more taxes . Right now I make $40, 0000 a year taxed at about 27% to 35% . Equity fund managers make $8,000,000 a year and pay 15% in taxes .He promised to change that , but that was before the lobbyist converged on capital hill and gave Mr. (sell out ) Reid campagin
money and pressured him to turn a blind eye to the fact that regular americas’ pay more 27%-35% in taxes then corporationswho now pay 16% (who use to pay 35%of all taxes but that was before Bush corprate welfare. ) Mr Reid took their money and told them dont worry that bill wont see daylight in 2007/2008. I have a problem with this . I called and told his DC office all this and the guy told me start a petition .
So lets see campagin donations from lobbyist for thousands or millions of $$$ versus my petition .
You Decide !!!!!!!!
October 11th, 2007 at 1:52 pmIt’s hard to understand why they ignored the warnings and “let†it happen unless you think they wanted something to happen that would give them the excuses to expand the executive.
Comment by Candyce — October 11, 2007 @ 10:59 am
Well, after much thought, I think that’s exactly what happened re: 9/11. Not only did it open the door for an expanded executive, it pretty much guaranteed Bush a second term to give him enough time to screw everything up. Other than tax cuts, I don’t think he’d have had any major accomplishments under his belt that would have convinced America that he deserved 4 more years.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:31 pm