Comment by Candyce — October 11, 2007 @ 10:59 am

Well, after much thought, I think that’s exactly what happened re: 9/11. Not only did it open the door for an expanded executive, it pretty much guaranteed Bush a second term to give him enough time to screw everything up. Other than tax cuts, I don’t think he’d have had any major accomplishments under his belt that would have convinced America that he deserved 4 more years.

You Decide !!!!!!!!

Firstly, why was Cheney consulted over the choice of a VP, if he wasn’t somehow in charge of matters, or at least the representative of those who were?

Secondly, I believe Cheney saw what a bumbling buffoon Bush is, and decided he needed to be close at hand.

We are going to expand presidential power in any way we can. This was discussed in January 2001 at the first meeting of the White House legal team after the inauguration, long before 9/11. If an opportunity arises to expand presidential prerogatives, you will seize it.

Rather than believe that the administration was pro-active in 9-11, I believe they were inactive, waiting for that opportunity. It’s hard to understand why they ignored the warnings and “let” it happen unless you think they wanted something to happen that would give them the excuses to expand the executive. And that’s what I believe. I think 9-11 was bigger than anything they hoped for, but they were happy to exploit it for Cheney’s 30-yr-old plan to elevate the executive. Remember, when Bush was looking for a Veep he went to Cheney for advice on a candidate, and lo and behold, Cheney chose himself. he positioned himself nicely to take advantage of whatever opportunities might come along.

Comment by Veritas — October 11, 2007 @ 10:13 am

Veritas, the very idea that any of our leaders could have been responsible for the carnage on 9/11 is such an awful scenario that I admit I have resisted allowing myself to think that such a horrible thing would be possible.

But you must admit, whether the Bushney machine had anything to do with it or not — it was very convenient, wasn’t it? Even more convenient was Giuliani ordering all the debris hauled away and destroyed before any investigation could be done into the possibility of the scenario being anything other than what it appeared.

9/11 catapulted Bush’s favorability ratings into the stratosphere, it allowed for a compliant Congress to pretty much give Bush a blank check to do anything he wanted (like invade Iraq), and gave the neocons a mechanism to keep Americans in a state of fear. A perfect fit for the neocon vision. A little TOO perfect. No wonder some people smell something rotten here.

Comment by gummitch — October 11, 2007 @ 10:30 am

The majority of dittoheads don’t believe in evolution, either: http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27847

Coincidence?

Was Rush right when he went on the air to annouce that Vine Foster had been murdered in an apartment owned by Hillary Clinton? No. Does the fact that he had millions of people listening to him tell that lie make it any more true? No.

Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 11, 2007 @ 10:04 am

Hmmmm. So the math tells me that dittoheads never learn? Or that they can’t read a simple transcript? Or perhaps that they get all their “information” from Rush?

Huh. Good point.

Cindy Sheehan’s life is ruined, having been used by the radical left to push an anti-war agenda, which the Dem Congress and Prez candidates have abandoned, leaving her without a cause and her husband – nice job guys.

Because he draws a large audience his views are justified? Hitler drew a rather large audience himself.

There’s no accounting for brain dead trolls.

I think you give them too much credit. Look at the sheer incompetency of this cabal. OBL had had his eye on the towers for a long time, it just took the incompetent and lazy ass Bush to take his eye off the ball long enough to get it done. The plan itself wasn’t even that difficult.

The right wing freaks did a great job of exploiting the disaster after it had happened though. They used the cover of 9/11 to jam their plans up America’s ass. Bush’s War never had anything to do with 9/11.

But if you are right about the martial law, “they have the guns but we have the numbers.”

And some of us have a few guns too.

somebody help me out here, please…
listening to thom hartmann rebroadcast on XM…

evidently this guy quit, but there was no action taken…
apologies and move on… this was some years ago…
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Sounds like someone knows the Iraq conflict is pure bullchit and Iraq is not where Osama Been Forgotten is.

Have you noticed that most of the trolls here have never abandoned the US?

mmm…it is a blessing NOT to have Fox News and all that cheap propaganda grinding your mind all the time.

sounds like someone knows where the fight really has been.

Got proof of that?
Because Rush has just been digging his hole deeper.
Smearing a 12 year old boy set new lows for even Lush.

This is why logical people who have been keeping track of the criminal activities of this administration realize that staging or abetting others (hired mercenaries??? Seems to be the MO of this administration so why discount that possibility?)…..to launch the worst attack on american soil to begin the coup on our democracy? After all, PNAC – along with Bush 41, Cheney, & Rummy have had this in the works for decades.

Hit the nail right on the foot. bigfoot that is.