White House Embraces Right-Wing Blog That Called For ‘Destroying’ Graeme Frost
White House Embraces Right-Wing Blog That Called For ‘Destroying’ Graeme Frost
Much of the far right’s smear campaign against 12-year old SCHIP recipient Graeme Frost was driven by the right-wing blogosphere. One blog in particular, Redstate, featured especially vitriolic comments. A poster there wrote of the Frost family:
If federal funds were required [they] could die for all I care. Let the parents get second jobs, let their state foot the bill or let them seek help from private charities. […]
I would hire a team of PIs and find out exactly how much their parents made and where they spent every nickel. Then I’d do everything possible to destroy their lives with that info.
Rather than distancing themselves from the smear campaign, the White House today decided to embrace RedState and reward the blog with an official White House posting.
In a post entitled “Democrats’ SCHIP Budget Gimmick,” Nicholas Thompson, a staffer in the White House’s Office of Strategic Intiatives, rallied the conservative troops around Bush’s hard-line stance, reminding them that “we are less than one week” from Congress’ veto override vote.
In today’s New York Times, columnist Paul Krugman writes:
All in all, the Graeme Frost case is a perfect illustration of the modern right-wing political machine at work, and in particular its routine reliance on character assassination in place of honest debate. […] Leading conservative politicians, far from trying to distance themselves from these smears, rush to embrace them.
The White House’s tacit endorsement of a blog that promoted baseless attacks against a 12-year old boy serves as a perfect illustration of Krugman’s point.
UPDATE: According to RedState, the poster who smeared Graeme was actually a respected voice in the right-wing blog. “As it turns out, it was the well-known contributor mbecker who posted that now famous comment.”
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Well of course they are, where do you think the wingnut blogs get their marching orders? The GOP is a lemming party, and the hive controls everything!
October 12th, 2007 at 7:37 pm“I’d do everything possible to destroy their lives with that info.”
WTF is wrong with these “people”?
October 12th, 2007 at 7:38 pmWTF is wrong with these “people�
Comment by cd — October 12, 2007 @ 7:38 pm
EVERYTHING! That’s the problem!
October 12th, 2007 at 7:40 pmThe pathetic part is how many of these people who post probably don’t have insurance themselves and are one serious illness away from needing help. The only people who don’t think healthcare costs are an issue are people who have never received healthcare.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:40 pmThey keep bashing this kid and his family and a lot of Republican parents who aren’t insured will start to feel vulnerable. And they should.
Look at the picture of this kid, he is obviously some kind of “evil genius”. No wonder the Rethugs are scared shitless of him. /sarc
October 12th, 2007 at 7:42 pmIt is clearly time for a mutiny.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:42 pmI would say that’s “UNBELIEVABLE” but, sadly, it is all to common from these vermin. There is nothing to low for them to stoop to.
Rush Limbaugh has even threatened to challenge Gore’s Nobel prize.
He thinks he should have won. Talk about delusional…..
October 12th, 2007 at 7:42 pmGW666 could care less about the American public, the Repukian Fascist Scum Sucking Propaganda Smear Machine is the only friends that GW666 and Darth Dick have anymore.
And can I ask, “Can these heartless neanderthals go any lower?”, it appears not. Man I just hate these subhumans.
Buck Fush
October 12th, 2007 at 7:45 pmThey are killing their own party and I just love seeing them embrace their trash side. Just keep pointing them out and hitting them hard. I love this blog!
October 12th, 2007 at 7:45 pmSo, I guess we are now going to be led by the Rightie Blogs, who are considered the source of all wisdom, since Turd Blossom is gone. SO, be prepared for whatever Malkin and Tranny Anny Coultergeist and the rest dump into Dubya’s cavernous brain pit.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:45 pmNicholas Thompson = CUA (Completely Useless American)
October 12th, 2007 at 7:47 pmThe reichwing insists on smearing itself with feces every day. Guess they keep trying to polish the turd that they’ve become?
October 12th, 2007 at 7:50 pmGet under the bed!!!!!! Hide!!!!!!!!!
The 12 year olds are coming!!!!!!!!
October 12th, 2007 at 7:50 pmMaybe we need to visit the Rightie Blogs and give them a ration of sanity?? Which blogs should we infiltrate?
October 12th, 2007 at 7:51 pmYou know they’re getting desperate when they’re afraid of 12 year old kids! Desperate men do desperate things.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:51 pmAnd the beat goes on…
Not that I ever thought that this administration and it’s drones couldn’t stoop any lower, but for some reason I foolishly thought that there was a point in which human decency might take over. There seems to be no limits to their depravity.
And what’s just as bad is that the majority of the MSM still plays a supporting role.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:52 pmPlease post some reichwing blogs so a few of us can take a troll …er I mean stroll.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:52 pmTRDaggett: That’s because the majority of the mainstream media is owned by fat cat Repukes.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:53 pmNo child left unsmeared.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:53 pmTRDaggett: And by their payola to the Dictator, they become a wholly owned subsidiary of the white house.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:54 pmmany have left the whitehouse, but the really sick ones have stayed on.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:56 pmTRDaggett: That’s because the majority of the mainstream media is owned by fat cat Repukes.
Comment by Veritas
October 12th, 2007 at 7:57 pm——————–
Just one big dysfunctional family, eh?
Damn, I should’ve added ‘inbred’ in there too.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:59 pmGraeme Frost and his sister are born children, so the Cons don’t give a shit about them — and apparently would actively destroy them.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:00 pmOh golley, now I have to take a shower. I went and read that RS post.
Oh the FILTH!
Those CONservative freaks are taking up way too much space on this planet.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:02 pmAt last we see the real so called Christian Family Values GOP party for who they are. Is this the way true Christians act toward other Christians. What God is the White House worshipping we know the GOP worships the God of perverts, child molester and those who hire prostitutes. Now we see the real deep beliefs of this party. As these so called Christians sit in their Churches this Sunday they should be asking God to run Satan out. As of right now Satan is in the Church and Pastor Hagee is him seated at his right hand side. Bush is acting more like a Grand Wizard then a President.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:04 pmKeep in mind, folks, that comments on a blog forum are not the same thing as actual blog entries published by the blog. Let’s not get all knotted up about commenters — would you want Michael or Rory to be held up as representative of the positions (or intelligence level) of TP?
October 12th, 2007 at 8:06 pmThat having been said, how can the reichwing possibly think it’s a good idea to go after Macauley Culkin in My Girl? I guess they just can’t help themselves, can they?
October 12th, 2007 at 8:07 pm“Hang ‘em. Publically,” the contributor wrote. “Let ‘em twist in the wind and be eaten by ravens. Then maybe the bunch of socialist patsies will think twice.”
OMG — somebody actually advocates KILLING these people??? What kind of sick people would even THINK this? They consider receiving government assistance a capital crime?
Comments like this will backfire. If Bush and Company really think this will whip up a lot of anti-SCHIP sentiment, they’re wrong. All this is doing is attracting a great deal of support for the Frosts (there are a LOT of people in this country who can relate to them), and the Bush’s veto will be overridden in a tsunami.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:18 pmCompassionate Conservatism is really an ugly lie isn’t it?
October 12th, 2007 at 8:19 pmRalph, you have a point. He does look like Macauley culkin a bit, doesn’t he. So here’s the pitch: Left unexpectedly alone by his parents, Graeme frost finds himself up against two skulking figures–Michelle Malkin and Rush Limbaugh–no wait, even better! Jonah Goldberg!–out to break into the house and discredit his parents! But plucky Graeme puts together all manner of clever traps and soon the wingnuts are covered in slop and looking on in horror as a bunch of metal that Graeme welded together with his dad’s equipment descends upon them!
October 12th, 2007 at 8:20 pmIt’ll be a laugh riot! HomeAlone 5–Graeme’s Story!
Keep in mind, folks, that comments on a blog forum are not the same thing as actual blog entries published by the blog. Let’s not get all knotted up about commenters — would you want Michael or Rory to be held up as representative of the positions (or intelligence level) of TP?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — October 12, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
Anyone with half a brain visiting here for the first time would see that Michael and Rory are in the minority here.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:21 pmThe Bushies should be forced to renounce all of the deranged hate speech and death threats from Redtate.org, or they should be tarred as complicit and in agreement with the comments.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:27 pmToo bad we don’t have a “Librul” media which will do this though, the way Fox “News” would do it to Democrats.
Americans need to know that the White House is in agreement with a website full of deranced, mentally imbalanced haters.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — October 12, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
And this: the comments posted from RS above ARE representative of the comments and opinions of not only many contributors of that site, but also of the administrators of that blog. Back in March 2006 when two Canadian aid workers and a British colleague held hostage in Iraq were freed in a rescue attempt, the administrator of that blog posted a thread in which he said he had wished the hostages hadn’t been freed. Why? Because the hostages were against the war.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:29 pmComment by OxyCon — October 12, 2007 @ 8:27 pm
Anybody know if Olbermann picked up on this? I didn’t catch the 8:00pm broadcast; will have to Tivo it at midnight.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:30 pmAskeert of a 12 year old boy?
What a bunch of freakin cowards.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:30 pmRush Limbaugh has even threatened to challenge Gore’s Nobel prize.
He thinks he should have won. Talk about delusional…..
Comment by Mark @ News Corpse — October 12, 2007 @ 7:42 pm
Sometimes I think that Rush likes to push the envelope just to test his listeners. “How outrageous can I be before my listeners quit absorbing everything I say as if it’s gospel?” Sadly, his listeners no doubt actually believe that Rush should have won the NPP. “dit-dit-ditto, Rush!”
October 12th, 2007 at 8:31 pmThe pathetic part is how many of these people who post probably don’t have insurance themselves and are one serious illness away from needing help.
Actually the sad thing is that they may have insurance and they are still one serious illness away from needing help. Something like 40% of the bankruptcies in this country every year are because of extensive medical bills that the people can’t pay. And most of them do have insurance. All you have to do is to watch Sicko to see how many people in this country are screwed daily by their insurance companies.
I am willing to bet that the medical costs for the care of their two severely injured children came close to a million dollars. And my bet is, that even if they had a private insurance policy, this family would be paying hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of medical bills. That would have bankrupted them. And something similar could easily happen to all these Right Wing Loons who rail against this family because they were able to get the medical help their children needed without having to declare bankruptcy.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:31 pmThe Bushies should be forced to renounce all of the deranged hate speech and death threats from Redtate.org, or they should be tarred as complicit and in agreement with the comments.
Comment by OxyCon — October 12, 2007 @ 8:27 pm
I disagree, OxyCon.
The WH should keep doing what it’s doing. Self-destructing.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:34 pmThe WH should keep doing what it’s doing. Self-destructing.
Comment by Zooey — October 12, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
Yes, Stay The Course!!!
October 12th, 2007 at 8:37 pmMaybe we need to visit the Rightie Blogs and give them a ration of sanity?? Which blogs should we infiltrate?
Comment by Veritas
Don’t bother, you won’t last very long. It took me exactly two posts to get banned by redstate.com. And they even blocked my IP address from being able to view their site. The funny thing was I did it at work, so they ended up in banning my whole company from being able to view their site.
Redstate.com would tolerate a Rory or michael (in reverse) for more than 10 minutes. The only blogs where opposing opinions are allowed are liberal blogs. And many sites like Michele Malkins site don’t even allow blog postings. You can send her an e-mail and if she likes it, she will publish it. Otherwise, she is in complete control of what gets posted on her site.
What are they afraid of? Now that’s a stupid question. We all know that they are afraid of the truth.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:38 pmThe (R) lemmings seem to forget that Cheney, Bush and many other Senators and such make enough not to need government health care and how much lobbyists take from the taxpayer trough, not to mention corporate welfare.
Yet they feign rage over this one example of Americans helping Americans?
October 12th, 2007 at 8:39 pmbilbo, good job of hosing up your company’s access to redneckstate.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:43 pmOur company frowns on employees visiting political sites anyhoo, but lots of our conservative employees (and libs as well) post whilst at work…
And they even blocked my IP address from being able to view their site-BB or by using a proxy server [google for many examples]
if your on high-speed you can possibly get a new IP address assigned thru winipcfg, ipcfg, winipconfig thru the ’start’ then ‘run’ menu.
I agree with bilbo, they cry about free speech but the whole conservative is not built upon free speech or free ideology.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:44 pmThe freepers are basically attacking one of their own with this ridiculous smear/rage over something that occured over three years ago. where was the fake rage then?
Why arent they outraged on sending a million dollar missile into an camels behind?
October 12th, 2007 at 8:48 pmThe WH should keep doing what it’s doing. Self-destructing. — Comment by Zooey
Watching the GOP attack CHIP is like watching a zombie walk into a buzz saw.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:48 pm“corporate welfare”
Comment by Xisithrus — October 12, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
This is one of the biggest and best issues to ever fall into the Democrats hands.
BUT, THEY ARE SUCKING AT THE SAME TEETS AS THE REPUGNISCUMS!!! WE NEED A REVOLUTION!!!
October 12th, 2007 at 8:49 pmWatching the GOP attack CHIP is like watching a zombie walk into a buzz saw.
Comment by koko the talking gorilla — October 12, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
I love those heart-warming movies. ;)
October 12th, 2007 at 8:51 pmWhite House today decided to embrace RedState and reward the blog…
Y’know, the Frost family didn’t offend the GOP by favoring SCHIP: many GOP citizens and members of Congress favor SCHIP; for God’s sake, Chuck Grassley is no lefty! It is Bush than stands in the way of SCHIP, and the Frost family’s offense was embarassing George W. Bush, an unforgivable crime according to the Cult of Bush. That is why they are being publicy pilloried.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:55 pmBUT, THEY ARE SUCKING AT THE SAME TEETS AS THE REPUGNISCUMS!!! WE NEED A REVOLUTION!!!
Comment by dixie blood
Thats likely true, but remember this bill was bi-partisan as the smear bunch denys.
If the congress is smart, those who are up for re-election, will back this. Bush is out of office and not up for re-election and it is not wise to follow a lame duck [George]
October 12th, 2007 at 8:56 pmThe reich-wingers certainly love misery.
I’ll never get’em.
peace
October 12th, 2007 at 8:57 pmY’know, the Frost family didn’t offend the GOP -KKTG
No, they didn’t. What this SCHIP bill amounts to is a 0.2% increase.
Bush, however is also now pushing for funding of NCLB. Will the same folks who decried helping an American child, now also oppose NCLB?
October 12th, 2007 at 8:59 pmComment by Xisithrus — October 12, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
Agreed!!!
Except the stupid 33% Ghoul-Aid Guzzlers who never abandon the base will always be the stupid 33% Ghoul-Aid Guzzlers. You know. The Jebus lovers and “pick-up truck” morons wil allways be there for the Repugniscums.
It’s real hard to stop the stupid!! Especially when they can’t get condoms!!
October 12th, 2007 at 9:07 pmGotta wonder if mbecker is a born again xian.
October 12th, 2007 at 9:12 pmSure sounds like it.
Or maybe Daryll at redneckstate.
Darn it, Ali. Now I’m in a really bad mood all over again.
October 12th, 2007 at 9:16 pmThere’s fame and there’s defamation. How much more hate do the American people want? The home address of the family was posted on a right wing blog. They have been personally threatened. Are there no laws in this country–other than the ones that protect the fascists? Where are the prosecutions? This is harassment at least. Oh, I forget, the courts are ruling that the media can lie at will. The judges were appointed by Bush 41 and 43 and probably even Reagan. Do people really like this stuff? What civilization?
October 12th, 2007 at 9:26 pmWe are learning that the GOP has not yet hit rock bottom.
Imagine a family with two kids who were seriously injured in an auto accident working hard to adjust to this double tragedy. The parents kept the family intact and are providing care and good education for their kids who need lots of help. They are grateful for the insurance from SCHIP and made an appeal to protect the program.
Enter the crazed GOP that will do ANYTHING to protect Bush’s position. Sen. McConnell’s office sent talking points — trashing the Frost family — to the media and GOP cronies. Now, we find out from this TP story that the White House supports the smear of the Frosts.
The really sick thing is that many people don’t know about this story, because it has not been in the mainstream media — even the Louisville Courier-Journal, McConnell’s hometown newspaper. How pathetic is that? Anyone who hears this story is furious. So our job is to get out the word. Tell everyone you know, call or email your newspaper and all tv stations. Demand that they investigate this story and nail McConnell & the GOP. Contact the C-J: http://www.courier-journal.com
Has the GOP hit rock bottom? I’m afraid to think.
October 12th, 2007 at 9:40 pmWe are learning that the GOP has not yet hit rock bottom.
Comment by Ditch Mitch KY — October 12, 2007 @ 9:40 pm
There is NO BOTTOM for bottom feeders.
October 12th, 2007 at 9:46 pmNow, we find out from this TP story that the White House supports the smear of the Frosts. -Ditch Mitch
Well, I, for one, am not worried when Casablanca depends on this type of national enquirer type rhetoric for support.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:01 pm.
Why does the president hate children?
.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:04 pmWhy does the president hate children?
Comment by Max-1 — October 12, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
He doesn’t “hate children.” He finds them quite tasty!!
But, you can’t harvest, molest and eat children unless the parents are dumbed down and the kids kept stupid too!!
RePugniScums love children, but, always in a perverted, scumbag way!!
October 12th, 2007 at 10:17 pmJust exactly what IS the RW’s definition of Compassionate Conservatism?
October 12th, 2007 at 10:18 pmDon’t forget that these lowlifes usually call themselves “Christians” too. There is absolutely nothing Christian about them except the fact that they call themselves that because they think it makes them a better republican.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:32 pmCompassionate Conservatism is a euphamism for ‘we don’t give a shit’.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:33 pmI’m happy beyond belief that some of my tax dollars went to help this family. That’s what our taxes are for, to help each other. I’m more than willing to pay even more taxes if I can be assured that it will help my fellow Americans. It sure as hell beats starting a war so my big corporate donors and buddies at Halliburton, Blackwater, Bechtel, Exxon/Mobil, etc. can make huge, obscene profits with the blood of our military.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:37 pmOn the plus side if there is anything to karma the people smearing this family have a never ending supply of bad karma coming their way. Oh and the only time the rethugs care about children is before they’re born. Of course they don’t cost anything when they’re fetuses. Especially when you deprive the mother of prenatal care.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:47 pmok, so I went over to Redstate, perused their site, found a thread on Al Gore.
then I did a Rune Cast, focusing on their site. This was the message from the Universe to Redstate:
Now, mind you, I was only trying to draw one Rune. Actually, three Runes came out. The third, Jera, or Year, fell from my hand before I could place it on the table. It stands for Karma. “What goes around comes around.” Karma - falling.
All in all, not good signs for Redstate.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:51 pmI never thought I would live to see the day that the American people would be so ignorant and evil to allow the fascists (neo-conservatives) destroy our democracy.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:52 pmOn the plus side if there is anything to karma the people smearing this family have a never ending supply of bad karma coming their way -Shayne
Well, BNF beat me to that.
Here, BNF, is my name, Bradley, what do thy runes tell you, if I may enquire of you.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:56 pmComment by kasinca — October 12, 2007 @ 10:52 pm
The American people are not ignorant, I think, Kasi, but are blinded by half truths. They truly think they are doing what is right but fail to look behind the veils that compel them to do so.
October 12th, 2007 at 11:01 pmChickensh*t A-hole repuglicans. I’d like to see that kid pound your wretched sweat-stained tax dollars up your cyst-riven sphincters. Graeme, you look like a good kid to me; I’m proud of you, and I’m proud of your family, and how you’ve stood up to this party of scumsucking mutants.
October 12th, 2007 at 11:07 pmAs the original Muppet, Jimmy Dean’s dog Ralph used to say…
“The Man has No Shame!”
October 12th, 2007 at 11:40 pmOne of the White House press corps needs to ask Dana Peroxide if President Bush thinks that 12 year old Graeme Frost and his family should be “Hung publicly, twisting in the wind while being eaten by ravens†the way his personal friends at Redstate.com think those “socialist patsy†Frosts should?
October 12th, 2007 at 11:42 pmDon’t sugarcoat it marlow, how do you really feel.
October 12th, 2007 at 11:44 pm{:^)
This is why no one talks about “compassionate conservatism” anymore.
It’s sad how low the Republican party has fallen.
October 13th, 2007 at 12:10 ambilbo, good job of hosing up your company’s access to redneckstate.
Our company frowns on employees visiting political sites anyhoo, but lots of our conservative employees (and libs as well) post whilst at work…
Comment by RUCerious
For the most part I only post during lunch and on breaks and my company doesn’t care what you do then (other than obviously objectionable things like visiting porn sites). My company is actually a non-profit so I’m fairly sure there were not many people who would have even wanted to go to redstate.com.
Funny thing, I guess my banning from viewing the site has worn off, or I got a new IP address because I can get there now. But, when I go there and read what those people post, I end up feeling like I need a bath, so I don’t go there.
October 13th, 2007 at 12:35 amThe Repukian Fascist have become a international embarassment to us. People from other countries are reading this crap and wondering WTF is wrong with these people.
Buck Fush
October 13th, 2007 at 12:40 amKeith Olberman is having the Frosts on his show on Monday. Should be a good one.
October 13th, 2007 at 12:45 amBTW, what has happened to all our resident trolls tonight? Is there a troll convention under some bridge or something. I don’t think there was one troll post on this thread.
October 13th, 2007 at 12:45 am65:
It is not a good time to travel.
October 13th, 2007 at 12:50 amIt is not a good time to travel.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Okay.
October 13th, 2007 at 1:20 amActually, this blog entry is incorrect. I’ve read the “right wing” blogs rip the parents of the 12-year old. I’ve read the “right wing” blogs rip the Democrats for exploiting a 12-year old.
October 13th, 2007 at 1:21 amEven Bill Maher had to agree that a child was inserted into this fight so that Dems could jump back from the fray, daring Reps to “hit a child”.
October 13th, 2007 at 1:28 amComment by muckdog — October 13, 2007
What are you saying muckdog? You practicing talking points?
October 13th, 2007 at 1:29 amKeith Olberman is having the Frosts on his show on Monday. Should be a good one.
Comment by bilbobaggins — October 13, 2007 @ 12:45 am
Thanks for the heads-up.
October 13th, 2007 at 1:31 amI just haven’t read where anyone is accusing the 12-yr old of anything other than reading what was given to him to read. And kudos to his private school for helping him learn to read. So many public schools are failing to teach kids to read.
His parents? Well… Typical hypocritical libs. Driving 3 big gas guzzlers. Working part-time jobs. Enrolling in government programs that are meant to help the needy, not the lazy. What do psychologists call that? “Peter Pan Syndrome?” From Wiki: the characteristics of a “Peter-Pan” include such attributes as irresponsibility, rebelliousness, pottering about, anger, narcissism, dependency, manipulativeness, and the belief that he is beyond society’s laws and norms.
Sounds like the parents, eh?
October 13th, 2007 at 1:53 amNo muckdog, actually it sounds like you. How many kids are you raising, they’re raising 4. Of course they’re not fetuses anymore so you probably could care less. But it’s not that easy to find childcare for 4 kids especially when two of them have a disability. And of course you know the job market in their area is blooming with opportunities to find jobs that pay lots and offer insurance, right.
October 13th, 2007 at 2:00 amAnd they even blocked my IP address from being able to view their site-BB or by using a proxy server [google for many examples]
if your on high-speed you can possibly get a new IP address assigned thru winipcfg, ipcfg, winipconfig thru the ’start’ then ‘run’ menu.
I agree with bilbo, they cry about free speech but the whole conservative is not built upon free speech or free ideology.
Comment by Xisithrus — October 12, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
It wouldn’t surprise me if sites like RedState are turning over these IP addresses to the NSA as “visits of interest.”
We know that at least 2 phone companies have turned over phone call records to the government, but (and correct me if I am wrong), nothing has been said about these same phone companies turning over IP addresses, and their surfing destinations/patterns, from Internet traffic. To kind of put this in perspective, it’s nothing for the recording industry to track IP addresses of folks sharing MP3 files via the Internet and then request subscriber info from the ISPs, and use this info to file lawsuits against the “thieves.”
Having worked in the past as an Internet support tech, I had forgotten about my old friend “traceroute,” used to check for traffic problems along the Internet. Curious, I did a traceroute to yahoo.com using their DNS address, and lo and behold what company had routers that handled two of the hops? AT&T.
October 13th, 2007 at 2:28 ammuckdog is projecting again. **yawn**
October 13th, 2007 at 2:34 amAnd kudos to his private school for helping him learn to read. So many public schools are failing to teach kids to read.
That’s a rather smart ass remark to make in reference to the kid.
October 13th, 2007 at 2:37 amActually, this blog entry is incorrect. I’ve read the “right wing†blogs rip the parents of the 12-year old. I’ve read the “right wing†blogs rip the Democrats for exploiting a 12-year old.
Comment by muckdog — October 13, 2007 @ 1:21 am
Pure projection. It’s you that’s exploiting this hard working family for your hate and propaganda! You’re all lunatic hatemongers!
October 13th, 2007 at 2:44 amI just haven’t read where anyone is accusing the 12-yr old of anything other than reading what was given to him to read. And kudos to his private school for helping him learn to read. So many public schools are failing to teach kids to read. Comment by muckdog — October 13, 2007 @ 1:53 am
Well to be fair, whatever school taught you failed!
His parents? Well… Typical hypocritical libs. Driving 3 big gas guzzlers. Working part-time jobs. Enrolling in government programs that are meant to help the needy, not the lazy. What do psychologists call that? “Peter Pan Syndrome?†From Wiki: the characteristics of a “Peter-Pan†include such attributes as irresponsibility, rebelliousness, pottering about, anger, narcissism, dependency, manipulativeness, and the belief that he is beyond society’s laws and norms. Comment by muckdog — October 13, 2007 @ 1:53 am
Oh please, this family doesn’t qualify for overpriced commercial insurance, they were turned down by 3 companies!
You are a heartless lying b*stard!
Sounds like the parents, eh?
Comment by muckdog — October 13, 2007 @ 1:53 am
Well these parents sound like people looking out for their kids! You sound like a sourpuss, cowardly cheap loser!
October 13th, 2007 at 2:45 amComment by muckdog — October 13, 2007 @ 1:53 am
I bet if this kid’s parents were Republicans and he and his parents and his 3 siblings had gathered around Bush at the WH for the very publicized veto of the embryonic stem cell bill, you wouldn’t be so damned vocal about the typical hypocritical conservatives who drive 3 big gas guzzlers and work part time jobs.
Idiot.
October 13th, 2007 at 2:50 amThey could move. I lived in a town with no jobs at one time. I moved.
Why do you libs think that society owes you a living and that you’re entitled to sit around “pottering about” instead of taking responsibility for yourselves?
And do you support the Frosts lifestyle? 4 kids. I thought libs were for zero population growth because of the environment. 3 low-mileage SUVs/trucks. Don’t libs hate gas guzzlers? Don’t libs believe that these are things that cause “climate change?” Private schools mostly paid for by the government. Don’t libs sing hallelujahs over the public school system and oppose vouchers? 3-strikes on the Frosts. Typical hypocritical libs.
Lets be intellectually honest here. The Frosts are a typical liberal Peter Pan Syndrome family: From Wiki: the characteristics of a “Peter-Pan†include such attributes as irresponsibility, rebelliousness, pottering about, anger, narcissism, dependency, manipulativeness, and the belief that he is beyond society’s laws and norms.
“Pottering about” on the government dole. That’s a lib for ya.
You should change the party mascot from a Donkey to a Sloth.
October 13th, 2007 at 2:53 amI just haven’t read where anyone is accusing the 12-yr old of anything other than reading what was given to him to read.
Comment by muckdog — October 13, 2007 @ 1:53 am
You obviously know so much, what the hell do you think the ignorant SOB poster at RedState, listed above (if you have any reading comprehension skills…or did you attend one of the public schools you lambasted in your post?), is accusing the kid of that makes him say the kid can die?
October 13th, 2007 at 2:57 amI’m taking a poll.
Is there a more stupid troll than muckdog?
October 13th, 2007 at 2:59 amAnd there are no Republicans in this country who live a similar lifestyle to the Frosts. Not one family.
I’m so glad muckdog opened my eyes. I can now sleep well.
October 13th, 2007 at 3:13 amCome on, mucky, answer my post. Why does a kid “reading from someone else’s script” deserve to die? Is that what you are supporting? You say that nobody is taking shots at the kid, yet right there it is, at the top of this page, in front of your fcking eyes.
October 13th, 2007 at 3:16 amHey Zooey, do you think the Frosts insure those 3 big cars?
October 13th, 2007 at 3:18 amI’m taking a poll.
Is there a more stupid troll than muckdog?
Comment by Zooey — October 13, 2007 @ 2:59 am
I don’t know…it’s pretty close, considering we have Michael and Rory to contend with.
October 13th, 2007 at 3:18 amComment by muckdog — October 13, 2007 @ 3:18 am
Hey muckdog, answer my question.
October 13th, 2007 at 3:21 amIs there a more stupid troll than muckdog?
Comment by Zooey — October 13, 2007 @ 2:59 am
Oh, and it’s “more stupider.” I went to a public school, you know. : )
October 13th, 2007 at 3:24 amHey Zooey, do you think the Frosts insure those 3 big cars?
Comment by muckdog — October 13, 2007 @ 3:18 am
The Frosts applied (because they qualified,) and were accepted into the SCHIP by the state of Maryland.
They are exactly in the demographic the program was designed to help.
Don’t let the facts get in the way of your smears and innuendos.
October 13th, 2007 at 3:30 amRun and hide, Mucky. You won’t answer my question because you can’t answer it. Despite your strutting around here and labeling all liberals as the devil, you cannot defend what the contributor at Redstate posted about the Frosts. I’ll even bet that individual considers himself a conservative Christian, just oozing with family values. No…wait. Let me put it in proper context. He considers himself a conservative “Christian.”
This family went through hell when their kids were injured, and they likely didn’t know if they were going to survive. Where’s the consideration for them and what they went through? Where’s the compassion? No…all you can do is b*tch about what kind of cars they drive and wonder whether or not they pay insurance on them.
October 13th, 2007 at 3:47 amSORRY, OFF-TOPIC HERE…
IDEA: “Constitution Lapel Pins” for Dem Leaders
Howdy. I really would appreciate your brief feedback on something I’ve thought about off-and-on for months. Not sure if it’s a great idea or Beavis & Butthead.
Let Republicans have their stupid flag lapel pins, because pins are lame. That said, I’m proposing an idea for…..yep, a lapel pin. How about encouraging Dem leaders to sport “Constitution Pins†on their lapels? They might appear as a gilded, partially unrolled scroll. This pin, like other pins, is meaningless in itself. But it would quickly become a talking point. Chris Matthews, George Stephanopoulos, Bob Schieffer and others will interview Dems and pop the inevitable question for many weeks, “So I see you are wearing one of the new Constitution pins. Explain what that means to you, and why.†This would be the perfect set-up for what Dems have been yelling anyway: “We have a president who, in his lust for executive power, has repeatedly undermined our nation’s Constitution in a brazen manner we would have never imagined not so long ago. Whether it’s illegally monitoring our citizens’ communications, claims that torture is something other than that, or outing our undercover intelligence agents for political gain, this is not only unacceptable to us, but it goes against the core democratic principals this republic was founded on. IF THE PRESIDENT WON’T DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, THEN WE MOST CERTAINLY WILL.†Etc etc etc. The pins would not only provide a new talking point, but could come to visually symbolize everything that Dems have been passionately yelling about for the past 7 years.
SO, GREAT IDEA?……OR TOTAL BEAVIS & BUTTHEAD? PLEASE LET ME KNOW! THANK YOU.
October 13th, 2007 at 3:51 amWell, goodnight (or goodmorning) all…I’m off to bed. Will check back in later today.
October 13th, 2007 at 3:57 amRemember that on this date 500 plus years ago, Columbus landed in the “New World”. Did anyone in the MSM remind you of that? Why?
October 13th, 2007 at 5:02 amYeah muckdog.
After all, what greater joy can any parent have, then watching their 12 year old child die for want of healthcare? /sarcasm.
October 13th, 2007 at 8:04 amUh-OH! Looks like there’s dissent at the *sshole factory!
October 13th, 2007 at 9:10 am#59- Yeah, they’re the first to tell you what GREAT Christ-Stains they are.
October 13th, 2007 at 9:12 amOne at my place of work actually said the BIBLE condoned torture. I’m sure it does, somewhere.
O. Bigfoot
Oh, and it isn’t exactly like you rightwingers haven’t tried to use commentors opinions against leftwing blogs before.
But then, of course, IOKYAR.
October 13th, 2007 at 9:28 amOh, and another thing big foot,
Lets see, a president, whose reign has seen 1 signature city all but destroyed, the towers knocked down, America’s name for human rights raped into the dirt, two wars (Neither of which are looking particularly winnable) a failing economy etc…
And a twelve year old boy who got SCHIP benefits.
Gee I wonder whether you might not be trading on a false equivalency because that is all you have to back your sordid, miserly, miserable ideology.
October 13th, 2007 at 9:35 amOr is this just another case where selective censorship would be preferable to open discussion, as long as the censorship supports the liberal point of view?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 13, 2007 @ 9:15 am
Why not? Conservatives are doing their level best to destroy this country, and several others. Notice that Bush and Cheney are to be hanged AFTER a trial, unlike the redstate death threats against people who merely speak out against Bushco. A little censorship of the right wing traitors will actually go a long way to preventing the violence that could erupt when the free people of the USA have had enough of the treason and antiAmericanism of the Bush followers. there is no “open discussion” with the closed minds of the right, and we have seen, historically, how harmful and damaging rightwingers become if they’re allowed to fester. You don’t hold “opposing” points of view, you hold homicidal, sociopathic points of view, which are always brought to bear violently. Perhaps a little self-censorship from you halfwits would be prudent.
October 13th, 2007 at 9:41 amY’know, the Frost family didn’t offend the GOP by favoring SCHIP: many GOP citizens and members of Congress favor SCHIP; for God’s sake, Chuck Grassley is no lefty! It is Bush than stands in the way of SCHIP, and the Frost family’s offense was embarassing George W. Bush, an unforgivable crime according to the Cult of Bush. That is why they are being publicy pilloried.
you posted this the other day & i wanted to give it 10 recommedations…its so true, & that is what is the most disgusting about it…its *NOT* about the issue of SCHIP, its for making BUSHâ„¢ “look bad” that the Frost Family is being punished!
& its just like Plame…the Frost Family are being made an example of…”we will do this to ANYONE who publically embaresses DEAR LEADERâ„¢!!!”
October 13th, 2007 at 9:50 amFrom Wiki: the characteristics of a “Peter-Pan†include such attributes as irresponsibility, rebelliousness, pottering about, anger, narcissism, dependency, manipulativeness, and the belief that he is beyond society’s laws and norms.
Sounds like the parents, eh?
Comment by muckdog — October 13, 2007 @ 1:53 am
sounds like BUSHâ„¢.
October 13th, 2007 at 10:09 am“pottering about” = “clearing brush”
TC-12 - “Constitution Pins” - excellent idea.
Perhaps the pins should have holes in them, symbolizing the parts of the Constitution Bush has eliminated.
October 13th, 2007 at 10:23 amO bigfoot - sticking words in other people’s mouths….
October 13th, 2007 at 10:24 amWell of course they are, where do you think the wingnut blogs get their marching orders? The GOP is a lemming party, and the hive controls everything!
Comment by republicans hate facts — October 12, 2007 @ 7:37
As opposed to lefties whose opinions vary wildly as evidenced by the postings on this site? ;)
October 13th, 2007 at 10:39 amAnyone remember the following sequence of news items from early 2005? The paragraphs can be found on the CNN website for Thursday, February 10, 2005 Posted: 9:04 AM EST (1404 GMT). URL is: http://www.cnn.com/ 2005/ ALLPOLITICS/ 02/ 09/ white.house.reporter/
1) “Last month, conservative commentator Armstrong Williams apologized for not disclosing that his company had received $240,000 from a public relations agency hired by the Department of Education to promote Bush’s No Child Left Behind education overhaul.”
2) “Syndicated columnist Maggie Gallagher also apologized to her readers for not disclosing a $21,500 contract with the Department of Health and Human Services to help create materials used to promote Bush’s $300 million initiative encouraging marriage to strengthen families.”
3) “HHS later disclosed that a third conservative columnist, Mike McManus, had received $10,000 to promote Bush’s marriage initiative, according to an Associated Press report. His weekly column appears in about 50 newspapers.”
4) “A New York congresswoman asked the White House to explain Wednesday why a man who worked for a news Web site owned by a GOP activist was able to obtain White House press credentials under an assumed name.”
“James Guckert, who reported from the White House for the Talon News Service under the name ‘Jeff Gannon,’ announced he was quitting the business ‘in consideration of the welfare of me and my family.’”
Does anyone truly believe that this practice by the White House has stopped? Either it has (as likely a prospect as Limbaugh swearing off Viagra and trips to the Dominican Republic, which incidentally is a sex tourism destination for those attracted to minor children — http://www.ecpat.org.uk/downloads/Dom_Rep05.pdf) or the MSM has quit reporting on it for some “strange” reason (ala Cheney, “other priorities”, perhaps?).
Could it be that CNN (and their compatriots) are now receiving payola to keep “repeating the propaganda”, either directly or indirectly, and now deem it best to maintain silence?
If so, another example of our hard-earned tax dollars at work.
The following quotes are illustrative:
“…the rank and file are usually much more primitive than we imagine. Propaganda must therefore always be essentially simple and repetitious. The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly…it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.” — Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister (1933-1945)
“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.â€- George W. Bush - May 24, 2005
“You can fool some of the people all the time, and these are the ones you want to concentrate on” — (George W. Bush, spoken at a Washington Dinner, March 2001)
October 13th, 2007 at 10:39 amIDEA: “Constitution Lapel Pins†for Dem Leaders […]
SO, GREAT IDEA?……OR TOTAL BEAVIS & BUTTHEAD? PLEASE LET ME KNOW! THANK YOU.
Comment by TC-12 — October 13, 2007 @ 3:51 am
ANOTHER IDEA - and it’s happening now:
Congressional Fashion Statement
[…]
Today, on the House floor, Mr. Yarmuth began distributing small buttons, seemingly made of parchment, with the words, “Article 1†– as in Article 1 of the Constitution, which states, “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.â€
In other words: Mr. President, the Congress would like to remind you, that you, dear pal, are Article 2.
[…]
Of course, the Constitution also has its inconveniences. Mr. Yarmuth said that the “Article 1†pins were needed in part because Democrats had struggled to flex their political muscles legislatively over the last year.
[…]
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/ 2007/ 10/ 10/ congressional-fashion-statement-were-article-1/
tell YOURS to get THEIRS. AND WEAR IT.
October 13th, 2007 at 11:08 am.
Remember that on this date 500 plus years ago, Columbus landed in the “New Worldâ€. Did anyone in the MSM remind you of that? Why?
Comment by foreyes — October 13, 2007 @ 5:02 am
Maybe it’s because after centuries of thinking otherwise, we finally realize that this half of the world existed long before some white guy “discovered” it.
Now, can we get back to the topic of the thread?
October 13th, 2007 at 11:26 amI just made the mistake of following the link over to Redstate….
Amazingly I made it most of the way down the first page.
Most of the comments read like they were written by dangerous psychopaths! Some of the comments border on threatening violence and hate speech, and I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if some of them would actually act out their hatred if given the opportunity. This is not covered under ‘freedom of speech’ and they should realize that.
On the right there was a link to “Conservatives are more tolerant that lefties”, and to the left of that was nothing but comments filled with intolerance and hate.
The nastiness and venom is so thick there, but it’s worth remembering that their actual numbers are thankfully small and closed, as are their minds. That does not mean that it’s to be tolerated or accepted. Decent people have the obligation to say “We don’t accept this, this is wrong!” as loudly and forcefully as we can.
We will prevail in the long run, but not by tolerating this kind of malevolence. This is one case in which I will not be tolerant!
October 13th, 2007 at 11:51 amRe: Comment #105 and #106 –
#105 - If Christopher Columbus were to be reincarnated today, he’d probably discover that he and Dick Cheney (and those of like mind), share much in common. For more details, please refer to http://www.nhne.org/ news/ NewsArticlesArchive/ tabid/ 400/ articleType/ ArticleView/ articleId/ 3671/ Thom-Hartmann-On-Christopher-Columbus.aspx
How about a resolution in Congress to replace Columbus Day with another national holiday recognizing someone whose impact on history was beneficial, not destructive?
#106 - Should the Fourth Reich surface in this country, there would seem to be no shortage of willing applicants for positions with the United States’ version of Schutzstaffel (S.S.). Might that be spelled “Blackwater”?
October 13th, 2007 at 12:03 pmWell, considering that Redstate posted a blog entry on their front page from a reader who couldn’t give a damn that hostages were released, and the very first commenter suggested that the hostages be returned to their captors simply because they were anti-war, I’d say the comments posted at the top of this thread fall right in line with Redstate’s administrators’ opinions.
A Briton and two Canadians held hostage in Iraq for almost four months have been freed, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said Thursday. Briton Norman Kember, 74, and Canadians James Loney, 41, and Harmeet Singh Sooden, 32, were freed during a military operation in Baghdad involving British special forces.
Whoo-freakin-pee.
First comment:
When I first heard about the rescue of “The Christian Peace Workers” on the radio this morning I figured it wouldn’t be a week before they were badmouthing the war, the “occupation” and their liberators.
Appraently it didn’t take a day.
Ungrateful. Bastards.
Perhaps we should just drop them back off where we picked them up.
I’m sure the Jihadists would be happy to see them again.
Link
And you can mark off the owner of the Gay Patriot blog as being concerned about the same hostages and being able to put aside his differences:
I have an idea… send ‘em back and sit their lily-white Western-faced asses in the middle of an intersection in Sadr City.
Now, O. Biggie, find threads where the owners of ThinkProgress post similar hate-filled, uncaring main threads.
October 13th, 2007 at 12:16 pmOh…my above post is in reference to…
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 13, 2007 @ 9:15 am
October 13th, 2007 at 12:18 pmNow, excuse me while I go fumigate my computer…
October 13th, 2007 at 12:18 pmHey Zooey, do you think the Frosts insure those 3 big cars?
Comment by muckdog — October 13, 2007 @ 3:18 am
Hey Muck Dick, I don’t know for a FACT that the Frosts own three big cars — we just have the word of you morons on that.
Leave off this family. If they didn’t qualify, both of those kids would be drooling, and then you could be happy.
October 13th, 2007 at 12:37 pmRe: #108 –
Muckdog, let’s say someone runs a red light during your next trip to the grocery store and you are unable to work for an extended period of time. How long will your employer continue to send you your paycheck and will they continue to pay for all your benefits? If their patience runs out at some point, you now have a pre-existing condition. Good luck trying to find a private health care insurance company to cover you at any cost.
And then there is the medical care that you will need, to alleviate pain and help you to regain normal functioning to the greatest extent possible. Who is going to pay for this? Rather than potentially becoming a burden to taxpayers in this country, true to your apparent convictions, would you voluntarily place yourself on an ice floe?
Perhaps you’ve worked hard and built a large nest egg — how long until your savings runs out? Then what? Can your family or friends afford to step in and pay for those costs on an ongoing basis? Would you want to place them in the position of either spending themselves into bankruptcy trying to help you or dealing with the guilt associated with not being able to help enough? What would you do if one of your loved ones ended up in a situation such as the one just described? Might you resent living in a country where anyone can be placed in the position of having to decide between bankruptcy or guilt?
So what’s your plan?
October 13th, 2007 at 12:47 pmRemember that on this date 500 plus years ago, Columbus landed in the “New Worldâ€. Did anyone in the MSM remind you of that? Why?
Comment by foreyes — October 13, 2007 @ 5:02 am
Yes, and it’s been celebrated 515 times. I think we get the picture.
October 13th, 2007 at 12:50 pmSo what’s your plan?
Comment by curmudgeon — October 13, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
That’s it. You just chased him off until the next Global Warming thread.
:-D
October 13th, 2007 at 12:53 pmO bigfoot - sticking words in other people’s mouths….
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — October 13, 2007 @ 10:24 am
The real question here is what odes Li’l Footie like stickin’ in HIS mouth?
October 13th, 2007 at 1:14 pmAs opposed to lefties whose opinions vary wildly as evidenced by the postings on this site? ;)
Comment by upright left — October 13, 2007 @ 10:39 am
All you ever do is come here and find fault w/ other people. You NEVER have an opinion of what could be or needs to be done.
NOT VERY BRAVE OF YOU, huh?
As far as peoples’ opinions varying, that would be the human condition, wouldn’t it? Even someone like you gets to have your “non-opinions”.
October 13th, 2007 at 1:16 pmTRoS,
upright left doesn’t even see the irony in that comment. He needs to look up the word “lemming.”
October 13th, 2007 at 1:19 pmComment by curmudgeon — October 13, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
And, even if he recovers from his injuries to the point that he can go back to work before he is fired or his insurance drops him, if he has a permanent injury that otherwise does not debilitate him in the near term, he still has that pre-existing condition.
I was in an accident in 1983 in which I was thrown from a car. The injuries included a cracked C-6 vertebra and a compressed disc. I recovered from the accident OK, and have otherwise been able to live a relatively normal life. I have a 20% disability that will be with me for the rest of my life, meaning I’ve lost the use of 20% of my body. I have limitations on lifting (no more than 25 pounds) and playing sports (no contact sports). As you can imagine, this severely limits the type of work I can perform as a career. It’s a good thing I didn’t play football or basketball in high school, for that would have been the end of it. I can’t even change a light bulb or do any other work above my head, such as painting a ceiling, without my neck and shoulders aching after just a few minutes.
The doctors told me that if I was ever in another accident in which my head and neck were violently thrust forward (say, if I ran into the back of another car), it is possible that my chin could end up touching my chest and my head would be locked in a downward-facing position. Other than that and possibly an earlier-than-normal set up of arthritis in my neck, I don’t know what to expect as I age.
This is my pre-existing condition.
Hey, Muckdog. You think I asked for this accident? Do you think I could have anticipated it? I passed out before I was thrown out of the car, so I didn’t even have a chance to grab hold of something to keep me inside; this was a 1966 Bronco that did not have seat belts. The other two occupants, who did stay inside, escaped unscathed. If you think nothing like this can happen to you, you are an ignorant fool.
October 13th, 2007 at 1:20 pmHey Zooey, do you think the Frosts insure those 3 big cars?
Comment by muckdog — October 13, 2007 @ 3:18 am
Hey Muck Dick, I don’t know for a FACT that the Frosts own three big cars — we just have the word of you morons on that.
Comment by Zooey — October 13, 2007 @ 12:37 pm
AMEN.
October 13th, 2007 at 1:30 pmsomeone has internalized his talking points to the point of confusing them with reality.
those righties are sick, mean people, and they all sing quite a different tune when misfortune knocks at their doors.
October 13th, 2007 at 1:37 pmIf anyone hasn’t checked out EJ Dionne’s column about this, please do so:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2007/ 10/ 11/ AR2007101101601.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
October 13th, 2007 at 1:48 pmBigfoot is engaging in the usual rightard black & white “thinking”, as they call it, because the limits of the conservative brain will not allow for that gray area where real humans actually live. Don’t forget, conservatives are hundreds, if not thousands, of years behind the evolutionary curve; the technology has far outstripped their abilities. They still want to solve every problem with clubs; unfortunately, their high-tech clubs kill thousands of innocents, which they then clain as collateral damage, as if a human were a divot on a gold course. these are not-quite-humans we’re attempting to deal with, and we really won’t get anywhere with them until we start treating them as they treat other humans.
October 13th, 2007 at 1:54 pmsuckdog is never anywhere near the facts, the facts being left-leaning.
October 13th, 2007 at 1:59 pmI’m taking a poll.
Is there a more stupid troll than muckdog?
Comment by Zooey
No, and his posts are not worth responding to. He has drunk the kool-aid to the point where he is hopelessly addicted and there is nothing we can do to help him at this point.
October 13th, 2007 at 2:07 pmmuckdog
A dog that lies in the muck. Couldn’t have chosen a better moniker if he tried!
October 13th, 2007 at 2:10 pmIs there a more stupid troll than muckdog?
Comment by Zooey — October 13, 2007 @ 2:59 am
I’d say he’s got competition. And it’s a tough one too: Michael, Jake D., Mr. P (and his many personalities), Tracy…
All of these twits have shown complete inability to understand current events, any explanations about them, and tenaciously cling on to their alternate version of reality.
October 13th, 2007 at 2:12 pm#109 - So what’s your plan? Comment by curmudgeon
Wow, that was an excellent post. You put it in words that even the Right Wing Loons can understand. Of course their comeback will be “that will never happen”.
October 13th, 2007 at 2:15 pmLeave off this family. If they didn’t qualify, both of those kids would be drooling, and then you could be happy.
Comment by Zooey
Correct Zooey and the family would also be bankrupted with no way to pay for future care for their children. But, I’m sure that is OK with the Right Wing Loons. Because it is the parents fault that they can’t afford high priced private insurance, and it is the parent’s fault that their children were in that car accident that caused their grave injuries. To the Right Wing Loons, it’s always someone’s fault (except their own).
October 13th, 2007 at 2:17 pmComment by bilbobaggins — October 13, 2007 @ 2:15 pm
Of course it will never happen.
Curmudgeon is under the erroneous impression there is a way to help muckdog and his fellow Bush cultists to “regain normal functioning”.
You cannot regain what you didn’t previously have. It will never happen.
/sarcasm off
October 13th, 2007 at 2:21 pmAs opposed to lefties whose opinions vary wildly as evidenced by the postings on this site? ;)
Comment by upright left
You know Right Wing Loon Upright, I would much rather belong to a party of thinking reasoning adults that have varying opinions on subjects than a party of Lemmings marching off the cliff after the Moron in Chief. I really wish that was not just a metaphor, I would love to see all these Loons really and truly marching off a cliff. Then we would be rid of them.
October 13th, 2007 at 2:27 pmThey stopped short of accusing the boy of being threat to our freedom and democracy…!!
October 13th, 2007 at 2:33 pmFrom Wiki: the characteristics of a “Peter-Pan†include such attributes as irresponsibility, rebelliousness, pottering about, anger, narcissism, dependency, manipulativeness, and the belief that he is beyond society’s laws and norms.
Sounds like the parents, eh?
Comment by muckdog
No, actually it describes George Bush to a tee. Thank you so much. We will forth with start referring to George Bush as man who is suffering from Peter-Pan Syndrome.
October 13th, 2007 at 2:34 pmSo then you are on record as supporting censorship, Lefty? Just want to make that clear.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
I don’t believe anyone here is supporting censorship. We are simply saying that the things that people post on redstate.com are despicable. And you will notice that you are able to post here. But if any of us try to post on redstate we will very quickly be banned. The Right Wing blogs are the ones who practice censorship, not the progressive blogs.
October 13th, 2007 at 2:36 pmAs usual, the Right Wing Loon OBigFootInMouth drops by for two drive-bys and then splits. He doesn’t have the guts to stick around and defend his inane comments.
October 13th, 2007 at 2:37 pm#129 Yup. StinkFoot is well known to this board as a coward.
October 13th, 2007 at 3:01 pmLets be intellectually honest here.
Comment by muckdog — October 13, 2007 @ 2:53 am
BWAAHAHAHA