Fox All Stars: ‘Anti-American’ Al Gore Shouldn’t Have Won Nobel For ‘Bloviating’ About Warming
Fox All Stars: ‘Anti-American’ Al Gore Shouldn’t Have Won Nobel For ‘Bloviating’ About Warming
On Fox News Sunday this morning, Weekly Standard editor William Kristol and conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer attacked former Vice President Al Gore’s Nobel Peace Prize win, calling him “anti-American” and derisively claiming that he got the award for “nothing” but “bloviating about global warming.”
Sarcastically calling Gore’s win “deeply moving,” Kristol disparaged Gore and the Nobel prize itself, saying “it’s a prize given by bloviators to a bloviator”:
KRISTOL: Friday, I felt a warm glow thinking that this man got the Nobel Peace Prize for bloviating about global warming. I mean, it’s a prize given by bloviators to a bloviator for nothing. What did he — he was Vice President of the United States for eight years. I missed the Clinton administration’s bold initiatives on global warming and carbon caps. Did they enforce the Kyoto Treaty? I don’t think so. You know, so he gets the Nobel Peace Prize for talking.
Claiming that the Nobel Peace Prize is “the Kentucky Derby of the world left,” Krauthammer was even more shrill than Kristol, saying “Al Gore now joins the ranks of Yasser Arafat, the father of modern terrorism.” He then claimed the award “has nothing to do with peace” and that “it gives it to people whose politics are either anti-American or anti-Bush, and that’s why [Gore] won it.” Watch it:
Kristol and Krauthammer’s attacks continue the efforts of Fox and the right to undermine the importance of Gore and the IPCC’s efforts to make climate change a central issue on the world stage. But, as NPR’s Juan Williams noted when responding to Kristol and Krauthammer, Gore has taken the global lead on an issue that the Bush administration didn’t “even acknowledge for a long time”:
The Nobel Peace Prize, I mean, Mother Teresa — whatever you want to say about it, there’s an effort made to acknowledge people who are making a difference in this world, and Al Gore, with the film An Inconvenient Truth, and by speaking out, bloviating, as you just said Bill, has helped to raise the profile of an issue. And when you look at the current administration, and the failure of this administration to do anything, even acknowledge for a long time that there was global warming, there’s a strong contrast.
As Williams said, Kristol and Krauthammer’s attacks are just “sour grapes” over Gore’s success in exposing and undermining the far right’s vast disinformation campaign against global warming science.
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Well, Bill, if it were up to me, you’d get a faceful of shite for all the talking you do.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:21 amFOX is State-Sponsored TV.
Just like Chavez’s
October 14th, 2007 at 11:22 amJust like Putin’s
Just like Iran
Listen to these pathetic jackasses whine.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:23 ami think kristol’s bitter because al gore has a nobel prize while kristol continues to be wrong about all things iraq. that must be a really empty feeling.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:26 amWhat good have these Nut jobs done to the humanity? I mean, at least in their dreams?
October 14th, 2007 at 11:26 amThe depth of these wingnuts’ stupidity is breathtaking.
Do people really believe the crap that comes out of these people?
I’m astonished that the “dumbing-down” of the American public has gotten this far but the wingnut money-lust knows no bounds so I shouldn’t be surprised….
October 14th, 2007 at 11:26 amOf course they dismiss the Nobel Peace prize. By these jackasses actions, they could care little for peace.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:26 amPredictably, the conservative chattering class and its amen corner in the right-wing blogosphere are apoplectic about the Nobel Peace Prize awarded to Al Gore. But their rage and angst about the Nobel Committee’s “politicized awards” for “mass exaggerators” and “deceptive rhetoric” isn’t merely a function of the inconvenient truth of the success of Gore’s global warming campaign. No, the rugged individualists of the right are just hopping mad that they never win prizes designed to recognize contributions to, well, the rest of humanity.
To remedy this perpetual slight, then, here are:
“Conservative Nobel Prizes We’d Like to See.”
For example:
October 14th, 2007 at 11:28 amPhysics: George W. Bush. President Bush is awarded the Nobel Prize for Physics for his groundbreaking work on the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which declares that the entropy, randomness and chaos of the universe are ever increasing. The Bush Doctrine, with its three tenets of no safe havens for terrorists, preventive war and democracy promotion, has produced sectarian conflict and civil war in Iraq, Hamas control over Gaza, centrifugal forces in Lebanon and an Al Qaeda safe haven in Pakistan. Like global warming, Bush demonstrated that global chaos can be indeed caused by human action.
Washington - 16/04/2007 –Global warming poses a “serious threat to America’s national security” with terrorism worsening and the US will likely be dragged into fights over water and other shortages, top retired military leaders warn in a new report.
Joining calls already made by scientists and environmental activists, the retired US military leaders, including the former Army chief of staff and President George W Bush’s former chief Middle East peace negotiator, called on the US government to make major cuts in emissions of gases that cause global warming.
The report warned that in the next 30 to 40 years there will be wars over water, increased hunger instability from worsening disease and rising sea levels and global warming-induced refugees.
“The chaos that results can be an incubator of civil strife, genocide and the growth of terrorism,” the 35-page report predicted.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:28 amhttp://www.news24.com/ News24/ Technology/ News/ 0,,2-13-1443_2098950,00.html
They’re just jealous. Where does Kristol get off calling Al Gore “un-American”. It is Kristol that is un-American. Only an un-American would want to send our military off to die in wars based on lies.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:29 amFOX is propaganda TV.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:29 amso, you can also spell “jealous” as k-r-i-s-t-o-l…
October 14th, 2007 at 11:34 amI can’t watch this clip because I can’t then moon Kristol and Krauthammer. Without the mooning, I can’t face Kristol and his whiny smartass voice. It’s astonishing irony, though, that he criticizes Gore for “bloviating” when he himself has made an entire career bloviating on subjects he clearly does not understand.
I can, however, do a little dance to celebrate how apoplectic the Right has been since the Nobel was announced.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:35 amWhere is Al Pieda when you need them?
-GSD
October 14th, 2007 at 11:38 amThese neocons WHAT war. Why would they be for anything involving peace. They offer no unbiased opinion at any time. They basicly just feed Fox’s right wing Bush zombies. That’s their only purpose.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:38 amSix months before Bush invaded Iraq, Al Gore said that a pre-emptive war on Iraq would increase the number of terrorists, undercut US influence in the region, and diminish US legitimacy in the world affairs.
Kristol and Krauthammer claimed Saddam Hussein was a dire WMD threat, that he was in cahoots with al Qaeda, that the war was necessary.
Objectively, Al Gore was 100% right, and Kristol and Krauthammer were 100% wrong. No wonder they’re seething.
Rightwingers don’t have what it takes to govern: regular contact with reality. They live in Fantasyland.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:40 am“prize given by bloviators to a bloviator for nothing”
Maybe Rush does deserve it after all.
-Ray-
October 14th, 2007 at 11:44 amThese smug, supercilious, arrogant “people,” along with Bill “The Kid Enjoyed It” O’Reilly and Ann “Christians consider themselves ‘Perfected Jews” Coulter deserve a special hell reserved just for them. They are demonic.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:45 amThe depth of these wingnuts’ stupidity is breathtaking.
Do people really believe the crap that comes out of these people?
I’m astonished that the “dumbing-down†of the American public has gotten this far but the wingnut money-lust knows no bounds so I shouldn’t be surprised….
Comment by Winski
I believe ZERO that comes out of the Dick in Bush Crowd’s mouths. The dumbing down as you say, is more than orchestrated media disinformation and state-sponsored propaganda. Aspartame is ubiquitous and has been heavily linked to brain malfunction. Pesticides in Fruits and vegetables. Hormones in Meat, Serotonin Re-Uptake Inhibitors. Gangsta Rap and Whiny “Alternative” rock. Military and Excessively violent movies. The list goes on. The Stupification of America is across all walks of life. It is chemical, atmospheric, and informational. I will not go as far as to say Microwaves are being used, but I will look at that if someone has compelling evidence.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:46 amFox pundits like Krauthammer Keep Bashing the Nobel Peace Prize,by using Arafat’s name.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:46 amThe fact of the matter is Arafat received the award for signing peace treaty with Israel.
The Nobel prize was also shared by ex-Israeli Prime ministers Ishaq Rabin and Shemon Perez. Prime Minister Rabin was later assisinated as a result of signing the peace treaty by an Israeli right wing extermists.
Why don’t Fox try to be accurate and mention Rabin and Perez names as recipients of the award as Arafat..the same day and the same moment…? Or it is simply easier for Fox pundits to insult and Arab leader rather to insult a Jewish one?
Kristol, Krauthammer and Fox “News” are only marginalizing themselves even further voicing their far right wing extremist views, which only 25% of the country adhere to.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:51 amOnce, not that long ago, alot more Americans used to listen to these idiots, but the gigs up, Americans know what these people are all about and they overwhelmingly reject them.
Can any of you left nut libs tell me what this “global warming” kick has to do with P-E-A-C-E?????
Please, I need to know!!
October 14th, 2007 at 11:52 amWilliams should have reminded Kristol that Bush was nominated for the Nobel Prize in 2002, a distinction he shares with Stalin and Hitler.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:52 amIts more than jealousy folks. This prize is a repudiation of the neo-cons, and more importantly a slap to the face of Bush.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:54 amThe harsh contrast of a besieged failure cowering in the White House and a champion of a major issue being lauded and embraced by the world community cannot be left unchallenged by the reactionary right.
Gore receiving the Nobel Peace Prize is a X-ray image of George Bush the failure. I suspect this was not lost on the voting committee.
“…it’s a prize given by bloviators to a bloviator for nothing.”
that started almost immediately… denigrate the PRIZE…
seems a better response to something so “nothing”,
would be to ignore it…
these idjits always give themselves away…
October 14th, 2007 at 11:55 am…
I’m so happy Billy Kristol is whining about Gore. After all, he’s been dead ass wrong about everything, so he’s more’n likely (or moron likely) wrong about this as well.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:58 amSo how did everyone’s local newspaper announce Gore’s win?
About 6 months ago the chief editor of our local Republican-biased paper trashed Gore over global warming in his “Tech” column (in which he normally writes about computers. Global warming….computers….global warming…operating systems…global warming…web browsers. Yes, I see the connection. Ha!).
So in yesterday’s paper, on the front page, the story of Gore’s win was in a 2 1/2 inch wide vertical strip on the left margin. I just know it pained the hell out of them to have to print anything at all.
So what was one of the more important news stories that got better coverage on the front page?
The revelation that someone has been going around the area setting bales of hay on fire.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:02 pmAssociated Press-Stanford University poll conducted by Ipsos Public Affairs. Sept. 21-23, 2007. N=1,001 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.1.
“You may have heard about the idea that the world’s temperature may have been going up slowly over the past 100 years. What is your personal opinion on this? Do you think this has probably been happening, or do you think it probably hasn’t been happening?”
Happening 84
Not Happening 14
Unsure 2
“If nothing is done to reduce global warming in the future, how serious of a problem do you think it will be for the world . . . ?”
Very Serious 59
Somewhat Serious 20
Not So Serious 12
Not Serious At All 8
Unsure 1
————————–
OK, cue the trolls to come in and say that nobody believes global warming is ______________ fill in the blank.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:03 pmHow about a new prize?
The Kristol War Prize, given to those people who have, through their actions and arguments, have promoted war, chaos and hate. Who have actually harmed humanity as a whole, rather then helped anybody.
That way, rightwingers might actually stand a chance of winning some sort of award for something.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:04 pmSeriously, how much more of this crap can people swallow? I’m simply surprised no one with half a brain (if that is possible to have on Fox) hasn’t just laughed out loud or punched someone in the face (on camera) because of the idiocy that flows like sweet wine from these cavernous talking mauls. To be truthful - I cannot bring myself to watch any videos concerning these neo-conservatives. I would rather read the transcript of the show than view the video - for some reason watching the videos on this site makes me sick to my stomach.
So… what can we actually do to enlighten anyone that watches Fox News as if it is Gospel? It feels terrible when you feel like the single minority sane person in the barrel of the proverbial crazy monkeys.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:06 pmlast i checked, the person who gets paid to talk crap on t.v. every week is the “bloviator”
October 14th, 2007 at 12:08 pmThe rest of the world gets it, even if Fixed News can’t get beyond the “sour grapes” grousing (this ran in your paper, Krauthammer):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2007/ 10/ 12/ AR2007101201763_pf.html
October 14th, 2007 at 12:12 pmEh — since 2000, Bush and his merry bunch have been trashing the world, while Gore has been trying to save it. Now that Gore has been recognized for his efforts, and the Bushco ratings are in the toilet, it’s driving the right wing insane.
Has anybody noticed that the right spends more time attacking others than defending their own? Maybe they finally realize that the actions of their side are indefensible.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:17 pmYes, Mr Krauthammer, you’re wrong, and yes, your face does look like a German beat it with a sledge hammer.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:17 pmSo with Gore’s win this week, and the revelation that Bush may have started illegal wiretapping prior to 9/11, who does Meet the Press have on today?
Bill Cosby and the co-author of his new book.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:19 pmSorry, but they are the bloviators, whereas Gore is someone who informs and educates. Don’t they realize how stupid they are sounding? Even the brain dead people who watch Fox must be shaking their heads and saying “what the fu*k”.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:22 pmFor TP:
Why does the number of comments in parens (37) not agree with the actual number of comments (30)? This has occurred on other posts as well (see Young Officers below).
October 14th, 2007 at 12:26 pm#31 ~ posts blown away from trolls aren’t reflected in the count on the page. Probably a bug in the software…
October 14th, 2007 at 12:31 pmWhat else can a card-carrying fascist say about Al Gore? He’s, obviously, a huge patriot as well as a steward of the planet. How much larger can one person become?? These impotent crybabies are just full of sour grapes. TS fascists.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:34 pmWho the hell is William Kristol to be deciding who is Un-American? This hired hack has proven over and over again that he will say whatever he is paid to say about anyone he is paid to say it about. I don’t know about who is Un-American or not, but no good American would committ such personal slander against his fellow Amercans. Al Gore has done more for his country than Kristol has ever dreamt of doing, without ever having criticized Kristol for being a bad American. Sounds like gealousy to me.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:35 pmEven a grade school child would now see that Fox News is a group of underdeveloped intellects and neo nazis. They’re really making their ignorance and troglodytism obvious.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:36 pmGoogle “William Kristol” - better yet, google this jerk’s grandfather “Irving Kristol” (dubbed the GRANDFATHER OF NEO FASCISM” and you will see that this guy is about as anti-american as one can get. He and members of his sick, twisted think tank called PNAC are responsible for 911 and overturning every rule of law in this country. William Kristol will see jail time in our lifetime for the wrongdoing he’s been involved in.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:37 pmAs always, Republican and conservative “outrage” over the Nobel Prize depends on the politics of the “nominee.” IOKIYAR.
Landmark Legal Foundation Nominates Rush Limbaugh for 2007 Nobel Peace Prize
Fox News host Sean Hannity and MSNBC host Joe Scarborough both promoted Dr. William Hammesfahr’s false claim that he is a Nobel Prize nominee.
Hammesfahr testified during an October 2002 court hearing on the Schiavo case that his claim to be a Nobel nominee is based on a letter written by Rep. Mike Bilirakis (R-FL) recommending him for the prize. But Bilirakis is not qualified to make a valid nomination under the Nobel rules.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:38 pmWhat is more astounding a lesson is the direct comparison of the lives of two men vying for the presidency: Al Gore and George Bush.
Al Gore, having chosen the “higher ground” has become an international missionary and emissery of hope while Bush has chosen the “diabolical route” and will now be contaminated by the deceitful choices he’s made. His legacy and life is falling into the abyss of darkness right before our very eyes.
This is a lesson for all americans. He who chooses the path of evil shall perish along with it; he who chooses the path of light will shine like a star. Bush is finished and is taking along all of his cronies with him.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:40 pmThe “lesson” involved is the reason why fate has given Al Gore such notoriety and thanks. The fascist neocons simply can’t stand the light Gore produces. That’s the way it is with good and evil, as we all know.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:41 pmBruce Gorton@12:06
I believe its called the Medal of Freedom as awarded by the chimp.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:42 pm@33 - Why does the number of comments in parens (37) not agree with the actual number of comments (30)? …
Comment by Clyde the Ripper — October 14, 2007 @ 12:26 pm
#31 ~ posts blown away from trolls aren’t reflected in the count on the page. Probably a bug in the software…
Comment by RUCerious — October 14, 2007 @ 12:31 pm
it shows progress! … successful trooll cleanups!
October 14th, 2007 at 12:48 pmyay!
To be fair, Kraut-for-brains didn’t actually call Gore anti-American. Let’s be precise rather than hyperbolic.
Arafat is the father of modern terrorism? Both the IRA and Umkhonto we Sizwe precede the PLO in the latter 20th. Both were classified as terrorists by the State Dept. Both are now recognized as having been Freedom Fighters. Of course the KKK and the Irgun, to name but two, were actual terrorist orgs well before the PLO was founded in ‘64. Of course there were different factions of the PLO over which Arafat had no control. Of course Arafat stood before the UN and condemned terrorism. Kraut-for-brains is a full cesspool redolent with ignorance.
October 14th, 2007 at 12:48 pm1st Republic 14th Star @ 12:38 pm -
i remember all that… good catch!
.
see yas… out to the garden for me…
October 14th, 2007 at 12:49 pmg’day…
Who named these water-carrying acolytes “All-Stars?” What kind of All Stars are they? Are they from the “Dumb and Dumber League” of the Regressive Republican Party? Are they related by family to the “Beltway Boys?” What kind of parents and up-bringing, did these losers have?
October 14th, 2007 at 1:00 pmAnyone got any answers?
# 42:
To be fair, Kraut-for-brains didn’t actually call Gore anti-American. Let’s be precise rather than hyperbolic.
Claiming that the Nobel Peace Prize is “the Kentucky Derby of the world left,†Krauthammer was even more shrill than Kristol, saying “Al Gore now joins the ranks of Yasser Arafat, the father of modern terrorism.†He then claimed the award “has nothing to do with peace†and that “it gives it to people whose politics are either anti-American or anti-Bush, and that’s why [Gore] won it.â€
I think there’s no question that Krauthammer precisely called Gore “anti-American.”
October 14th, 2007 at 1:29 pmWhen Kristol says that the award “has nothing to do with peace,†he is parroting Rush Limbaugh, who said the same thing. But Rush went even farther to glorify himself:
In addition to that, earlier this year Rush threatened to sic his lawyers on Gore:
Rush Limbaugh To Challenge Gore Peace Prize Win?
The word “Tool” comes to mind.
October 14th, 2007 at 1:35 pm1st Republic 14th Star wrote:
‘I think there’s no question that Krauthammer precisely called Gore “anti-American.‒
Note the “either/or” in your evidence: “it gives it to people whose politics are either anti-American or anti-Bush, and that’s why [Gore] won it.â€
Are you implying that Gore is in no way “anti-Bush?”
October 14th, 2007 at 1:42 pmAnd to think that some of these right-wing blowhards were all giddy at the announcement of Limbaugh’s “nomination” to the Nobel Peace prize.
But that was when the “nominee” was one of their own. Now that one of the people they despise has won the prize, all of the sudden it’s given by “bloviators” and has no credibility.
What an idiotic, hypocritical, moronic lot.
October 14th, 2007 at 1:44 pmTo be fair, Kraut-for-brains didn’t actually call Gore anti-American.
Comment by cavjam — October 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
Right. He said Gore is either anti-American or anti-Bush.
In their typical slimy way, FauxNews talking heads smear their opponents in the hope that someone out there (like, say, you) will split hairs and claims that Gore wasn’t “actually” called “anti-American”.
October 14th, 2007 at 1:55 pmMost twelve year old children are better informed than the spewing billykristol. On all subjects. And listening to him spew his crap only drives them further from his idealogy. But billy is too stupid to realize his stupidity.
October 14th, 2007 at 2:04 pmKristol and Krauthammer forgot to mention on FOX “News” that they still believe the Earth is flat.
Maybe they didn’t read Andrew Revkin’s Oct. 1st NYT article, with interactive graphics that shows the “permanent Ice Shelf in the Arctic” is down about 1/3 — just this summer.
But not to worry, it’s a lot easier to trash and slander Al Gore.
October 14th, 2007 at 2:06 pmGregor Samsa says…“And to think that some of these right-wing blowhards were all giddy at the announcement of Limbaugh’s “nomination†to the Nobel Peace prize.â€
I dare say that I hear that Rush Limbaugh was nominated for the North American Man/Boy Love Association award. I don’t think it was the Noble Peace Prize.
October 14th, 2007 at 2:07 pmThese little fu(ks are SCARED SH*TLESS OF A GORE PRESIDENCY.
http://www.draftgore.com
October 14th, 2007 at 2:16 pmhttp://www.draftgore.com
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Gore for President; Hillary for Supreme Court.
October 14th, 2007 at 2:52 pmPriceless: Sitting back and watching K and K’s heads explode.
I’ll buy the popcorn.
I guess if Henry Kissinger and Kofi Anan can win peace prizes, then so can Al Gore.
October 14th, 2007 at 3:11 pmThe lame thing about the whole Iraq war mess is that the neocons and their enablers in the Democratic Party KNEW that. They knew what would happen when we invaded Iraq. The WANTED IT to happen.
October 14th, 2007 at 3:14 pmNote the “either/or†in your evidence: “it gives it to people whose politics are either anti-American or anti-Bush, and that’s why [Gore] won it.â€
Are you implying that Gore is in no way “anti-Bush?â€
Comment by cavjam — October 14, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
These phrases and they way the sentence is structured doesn’t make them mutually exclusive. So they are call Gore one of these or both and you’d have to be psychic to rule out either of them. Are you psychic?
October 14th, 2007 at 3:22 pmI guess if Henry Kissinger and Kofi Anan can win peace prizes, then so can Al Gore.
Comment by Alejandro — October 14, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
Yeah, they’re the only two who have won before Gore, tool.
October 14th, 2007 at 3:26 pmUsing Fixed Noise’s reasoning, Moses was a “bloviator;” The Prophet Isaiah was a “bloviator;” Jesus Christ was a “bloviator.” On the other hand, I’m sure Kristol would dance a jig and laugh with glee if Gore were to be “crucified” (figuratively OR literally) by the Pharisaic types with whom he associates. The total classlessness of these callous cowards truly is an amazing thing to behold! They are a sick and sorry lot!
October 14th, 2007 at 3:27 pmAnd Alegandro, it appears I may have misjudged you based on your first comment. Sorry.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — October 14, 2007 @ 3:25
I think you were right the first time. Alejandro wants to put all the blame on the Democratic enablers instead of the Republicans and the administration that lied about the intel it had.
October 14th, 2007 at 3:29 pm.
Why does the FOX Propaganda Network HATE America?
I mean, they like to create divisions within America that weren’t there.
And we all know how unified this country is because of FOX Propaganda.
.
October 14th, 2007 at 3:32 pmHere comes the pitch…he swings and he misses!
October 14th, 2007 at 3:32 pmWell, there you have it folks, Mr. October, ‘Silly Willy’ Kristol, still in possession of his perfect .000 batting average!
The lame thing about the whole Iraq war mess is that the neocons and their enablers in the Democratic Party KNEW ….what would happen when we invaded Iraq.
Comment by Alejandro — October 14, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
I beg to differ. War critics THOUGHT that the war would turn into a Quagmire. The reasons for this position were well stated by Cheney himself after the first Iraq War.
The Neocons THOUGHT that the Iraqis would treat Americans as liberators, and Iraqi oil would pay for the war. Chalibi and the Iraqi Exiles promoted this argument.
Iraq under Sadaam was a brutal dictatorship. No one really could know how the Iraqi people felt, because expressing an opinion was very dangerous.
BUT…not having a PLAN for a worst case scenario was entirely Bush’s fault. Not letting Hans Blix complete his job was Bush’s fault.
That’s where the lethal incompetence occured.
October 14th, 2007 at 3:47 pmFOX is State-Sponsored TV.
Just like Chavez’s
Just like Putin’s
Just like Iran
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — October 14, 2007 @ 11:22 am
That is so unfair to Chavez to lump him with anything related to Faux Noise.
The television station that Chavez took off the public airwaves, still operates via cable in Venezula, kinda like Faux Noise. Give Chavez a break!
October 14th, 2007 at 3:51 pmWell, Al won the Nobel Prize, so it’s worthless.
Al won an Oscar, so it’s worthless.
Al had a book at the top of the New York Times Best Seller List, so It’s worthless.
AL Made Kristol and Krauthammer whine like failures–now THAT’s worth something!
October 14th, 2007 at 4:10 pmKristol and Krauthammer are dangerous PNAC imperialists…
October 14th, 2007 at 4:20 pmAccurate descriptions of Bill Kristol on this thread (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/kristol-krauthammer-gore/#comments) alone:
Big Jackass
bitter
Nut job
wingnut
jealous
un-American
whiny smartass
bloviating
100% wrong
smug, supercilious, arrogant
demonic
dead ass wrong about everything
moron
promoted war, chaos and hate
harmed humanity
talking maul
card-carrying fascist
sour grapes
hired hack
hubris
rabid poodle
“Toolâ€
blowhard
too stupid to realize his stupidity.
‘Silly Willy’
whine like failure
PNAC imperialist
To those descriptions, you can add from this thread: http://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 10/ 14/ iran-williams-kristol/ #comments
Bloody Billy The War Whore.
Nazi
one sick boy!
Media Putz of the Week for July 19, 2007: http://mediaputz.com/07/07/putz0719.html
little boy
Smirking Crap-Face
lack of intelligence, finesse, class, and decorum
shitheel …personified
Kinda says it all!
October 14th, 2007 at 4:33 pmIf George Bush were nominated for the NPP for “Bringing Peace to the Middle East”, they’d be falling all over themselves to hail it as an enormous triumph.
But since only Democrats like Al Gore and Jimmy Carter win NPP’s, it’s something to be derided… unless of course you are talking about Henry Kissenger, who joined the ranks of “Arafat” and the “wacko” (according to Krauthammer) “Jimmy Carter”.
Compare Carter, Clinton (who make be next) and Gore’s post political lives to Bush’s “Skydiving Daddy” and his own plans to spend his post-Presidency with the nobel task of “refilling the ol’ coffers” on the lecture circuit.
October 14th, 2007 at 5:58 pmWell, what were we expecting from Kristol and Saurcroutscammer? Try to remember, recent brain imaging studies bring objective evidence that dems and repubs are hard wired differently. These two icons of neocons are therefore most likely hard wired so F*$ked-up that they are simply incapable of rational, compassionate, petty-free thinking. They are doing the very best they can based upon their present state of consciousness. Now that is truly the scary part.
October 14th, 2007 at 6:31 pmGee, the Nobel Prize wasn’t such a bad thing when the knotheads in Congress were waxing about Rep. Michael Billirakis’ supposed “nomination” for Dr. William Hammesfahr during the Terri Schiavo debates.
October 14th, 2007 at 9:34 pmONE of the world’s foremost meteorologists has called the theory that helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize “ridiculous” and the product of “people who don’t understand how the atmosphere works”.
Dr William Gray, a pioneer in the science of seasonal hurricane forecasts, told a packed lecture hall at the University of North Carolina that humans were not responsible for the warming of the earth
TOTAL LIB BULLSHIT!
October 14th, 2007 at 11:27 pmONE of the world’s foremost meteorologists has called the theory that helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize “ridiculous” and the product of “people who don’t understand how the atmosphere works”.
Dr William Gray, a pioneer in the science of seasonal hurricane forecasts, told a packed lecture hall at the University of North Carolina that humans were not responsible for the warming of the earth
October 14th, 2007 at 11:29 pmKristol forgot to mention that the real father of modern terrorism, fascist Menachem Begin, was awarded the Peace Prize too. As were two other war criminals, Rabin and Peres.
Gore is much more deserving that any of those three, not to mention the despicable Kissinger.
October 15th, 2007 at 9:23 amI’m glad we have a great American hero like Bill Kristol hunting down anti-Americans in our midst. Senator Mccarthy would be proud. Bin Laden is still out there Bill, go get ‘em chicken hawk.
October 15th, 2007 at 2:40 pmIf anyone would know a thing or two about being an “anti-American bloviator” it would be Kristol and Krauthammer.
October 15th, 2007 at 3:29 pmThe Flat Earth Society has nominated Bill Kristol as it’s international spokesman. Way to go Mr. Kristol, You’ve finally found an audience outside the GOP.
October 15th, 2007 at 5:24 pmGlobal Warming is a lie. Al Gore is just taking shots in the dark. He makes claim after claim, but without any warrants. He ignored the Kyoto Treaty as vice president, and he continues to complain about the U.S.’s carbon emissions. News flash! Carbon emissions are down in the U.S. Global Warming is countered by scientific fact again and again, and Gore’s response, Global Warming. There is no scientific fact to support Global Warming, only rhetoric. Has anyone seen Gore’s statistics? He shows how temperature matches carbon in the atmosphere, and how it has done so through history. That is all well and fine, unless you look at his numbers for current carbon emissions. On his graph he shows in his power point, carbon emissions have been skyrocketing over the past century and will continue to do so, but he conveniently leaves out the temperature. If you continue the temperature climb at a rate equal to carbon emissions according to the graph, it is currently far hotter than it really is, and in about a decade, we’ll be facing record temperatures of 250°-300°F. This is both unlikely and not very logical. If even Al Gore himself shows that Global Warming is a joke, then everyone should do what they did in the past when he was talking. Believe his statistics everyone! Is it not obvious that you can step outside and experience 150°F temperatures? Make your own choice, but please, for the sake of the world, take this into account.
October 18th, 2007 at 8:57 pmWow - didn’t know I was Unamerican - http://www.sharedvoice.org/unamerican/
October 26th, 2007 at 8:58 pm