Comments on: Sam Donaldson blasts George Will’s climate denial. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:23:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: FunMe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4120096 FunMe Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:27:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4120096 The wierdest thing about all this is that EVERYONE is affected by climate change. Money $$$ does not insulate these naysayers from the effects of climate change. But let them continue to have their heads in the sand. The sand will get deeper and bury their bodies. By the time it will be too late to save themselves. The wierdest thing about all this is that EVERYONE is affected by climate change. Money $$$ does not insulate these naysayers from the effects of climate change. But let them continue to have their heads in the sand. The sand will get deeper and bury their bodies. By the time it will be too late to save themselves.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119200 Lefty Patriot Mon, 15 Oct 2007 01:23:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119200 TCDon, you're certainly "no expert", nor is Gray. TCDon, you’re certainly “no expert”, nor is Gray.

]]> By: Brain From Planet Arous http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119191 Brain From Planet Arous Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:55:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119191 <em>I’m certainly no expert, but I’d be willing to bet that Dr. William Gray knows a bit more about climatology than Sam Donaldson. “We’re brainwashing our children,” said Dr Gray, 78, a long-time professor at Colorado State University. “They’re going to the Gore movie [An Inconvenient Truth] and being fed all this. It’s ridiculous.” Comment by TCDon</em> Gray has been thoroughly debunked many times before. There are approximately 70 "scientists" out of 50,000 that believe their own lies. Wow! Amazing what media propaganda can do to teeny minority. Make their insane, Oil and Military minds seem like a majority. <a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/04/gray-on-agw/" rel="nofollow"></a> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/04/gray-on-agw/ I’m certainly no expert, but I’d be willing to bet that Dr. William Gray knows a bit more about climatology than Sam Donaldson. “We’re brainwashing our children,” said Dr Gray, 78, a long-time professor at Colorado State University. “They’re going to the Gore movie [An Inconvenient Truth] and being fed all this. It’s ridiculous.”

Comment by TCDon

Gray has been thoroughly debunked many times before. There are approximately 70 “scientists” out of 50,000 that believe their own lies. Wow! Amazing what media propaganda can do to teeny minority. Make their insane, Oil and Military minds seem like a majority.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/04/gray-on-agw/

]]> By: bob lahblah http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119187 bob lahblah Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:36:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119187 I’m certainly no expert, but I’d be willing to bet that Dr. William Gray knows a bit more about climatology than Sam Donaldson. “We’re brainwashing our children,” said Dr Gray, 78, a long-time professor at Colorado State University. “They’re going to the Gore movie [An Inconvenient Truth] and being fed all this. It’s ridiculous.” Comment by TCDon — October 14, 2007 @ 7:28 pm I'm no expert either, but I'd be willing to bet that Dr. Andrew Dessler, a professor at Texas A & M, knows a bit more about climatology than Dr. William Gray. http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/10/11/9119/4948 I'd also be willing to bet that the Australian Academy of Sciences, Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts, Brazilian Academy of Sciences, Royal Society of Canada, Caribbean Academy of Sciences, Chinese Academy of Sciences, French Academy of Sciences, German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina, Indian National Science Academy, Indonesian Academy of Sciences, Royal Irish Academy, Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei (Italy), Academy of Sciences Malaysia, Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand, Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, and Royal Society (UK), all of whom endorse the IPCC as the most reliable source on global warming, might know a bit more about climate change than Dr. William Gray. I’m certainly no expert, but I’d be willing to bet that Dr. William Gray knows a bit more about climatology than Sam Donaldson. “We’re brainwashing our children,” said Dr Gray, 78, a long-time professor at Colorado State University. “They’re going to the Gore movie [An Inconvenient Truth] and being fed all this. It’s ridiculous.”

Comment by TCDon — October 14, 2007 @ 7:28 pm

I’m no expert either, but I’d be willing to bet that Dr. Andrew Dessler, a professor at Texas A & M, knows a bit more about climatology than Dr. William Gray. http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/10/11/9119/4948

I’d also be willing to bet that the Australian Academy of Sciences, Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts, Brazilian Academy of Sciences, Royal Society of Canada, Caribbean Academy of Sciences, Chinese Academy of Sciences, French Academy of Sciences, German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina, Indian National Science Academy, Indonesian Academy of Sciences, Royal Irish Academy, Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei (Italy), Academy of Sciences Malaysia, Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand, Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, and Royal Society (UK), all of whom endorse the IPCC as the most reliable source on global warming, might know a bit more about climate change than Dr. William Gray.

]]> By: beltman713 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119180 beltman713 Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:20:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119180 I remember when they first started talking about global warming. Most of their predictions were 100 or 200 years into the future. But a lot of the predictions have already happened, far sooner than even the scientists thought. Hell, now a ship can pass between Canada and the North Pole, and this idiot George Will is talking about inconveniencing developing nations. I remember when they first started talking about global warming. Most of their predictions were 100 or 200 years into the future. But a lot of the predictions have already happened, far sooner than even the scientists thought. Hell, now a ship can pass between Canada and the North Pole, and this idiot George Will is talking about inconveniencing developing nations.

]]> By: bob lahblah http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119127 bob lahblah Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:42:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119127 So 1% of Americans consider global warming their top problem. Take a look at Nobel Peace Laureates over the past several years and tell me, how many Americans consider the economic well-being of farmers in Bangladesh their top problem? How about democracy in Africa? The liberation of Tibet? Unexploded land mines? Or even nuclear proliferation? These, along with global warming, are all important problems. My guess is, though, that most Americans consider affordable health care, safe neighborhoods or simply providing for their children their TOP problem. Frame it however you want, George. The fact is, 62% of Americans apparently feel an urgent need to do something about global warming, in spite of the rantings of Fox News and others. And it seems the Nobel Committee is a bit more farsighted than you are. I like the word "asshat" in this instance. George Will is an asshat. So 1% of Americans consider global warming their top problem. Take a look at Nobel Peace Laureates over the past several years and tell me, how many Americans consider the economic well-being of farmers in Bangladesh their top problem? How about democracy in Africa? The liberation of Tibet? Unexploded land mines? Or even nuclear proliferation?
These, along with global warming, are all important problems. My guess is, though, that most Americans consider affordable health care, safe neighborhoods or simply providing for their children their TOP problem.
Frame it however you want, George. The fact is, 62% of Americans apparently feel an urgent need to do something about global warming, in spite of the rantings of Fox News and others. And it seems the Nobel Committee is a bit more farsighted than you are.
I like the word “asshat” in this instance. George Will is an asshat.

]]> By: dixie blood http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119102 dixie blood Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:47:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119102 <em>For his own sake, Will should retire from political commentary and return to writing about baseball. Comment by Marie — October 14, 2007 @ 4:17 pm</em> Please...he should <b>NOT</b> "return to writing about baseball" because he's a <b>baseball nerd</b>, and a <b>pansy-ass stat phreak</b> that <b>never played anything outside of his cave growing up</b> <b>GORGE WILL NEEDS TO GO BACK TO BEING A REAL CONSERVATIVE OR SHUT THE PHUCK UP FOREVER AND FOREVER!! WE DON'T NEED NEOCON A$$WIPES AROUND HERE ANYMORE!!! ABC LOVES THIS A$$HOLE!!!</b> For his own sake, Will should retire from political commentary and return to writing about baseball.

Comment by Marie — October 14, 2007 @ 4:17 pm

Please…he should NOT “return to writing about baseball” because he’s a baseball nerd, and a pansy-ass stat phreak that never played anything outside of his cave growing up

GORGE WILL NEEDS TO GO BACK TO BEING A REAL CONSERVATIVE OR SHUT THE PHUCK UP FOREVER AND FOREVER!! WE DON’T NEED NEOCON A$$WIPES AROUND HERE ANYMORE!!!

ABC LOVES THIS A$$HOLE!!!

]]> By: barfly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119095 barfly Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:37:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119095 ROBERTS: <i>And he won the popular vote.</i> What a pit-stain. This political parakeet's relevance ends at the tip of her Irish-coffee-stained beak... ROBERTS: And he won the popular vote.

What a pit-stain.

This political parakeet’s relevance ends at the tip of her Irish-coffee-stained beak…

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119090 Marie Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:17:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119090 Tucker Carlson is a foolish buffoon with no discernible skill or talent who has somehow landed a "news" show on MSNBC; so, when he displays the ridiculous behavior as he did on Bill Maher's show the other night, it is no surprise - it's what he does. George Will, on the other hand, is a long-time columnist, who commands an audience in readers and viewers; which isn't to say that he doesn't exhibit behavior similar to Carlson. Will may be a pseudo-intellectual, but his blinding fealty to his Republican party has denied him the ability to use his intellect for more positive purposes - he chooses instead to continue to diminish himself to a sycophantic speaker for the rabid right wing who deny the inevitable facts of climate changes. His and the collective hatred of the right-wing for all things Democratic, especially all things related to Al Gore, will be their downfall. Good for Sam Donaldson in calling Will on his foolishness. For his own sake, Will should retire from political commentary and return to writing about baseball. Tucker Carlson is a foolish buffoon with no discernible skill or talent who has somehow landed a “news” show on MSNBC; so, when he displays the ridiculous behavior as he did on Bill Maher’s show the other night, it is no surprise – it’s what he does.
George Will, on the other hand, is a long-time columnist, who commands an audience in readers and viewers; which isn’t to say that he doesn’t exhibit behavior similar to Carlson. Will may be a pseudo-intellectual, but his blinding fealty to his Republican party has denied him the ability to use his intellect for more positive purposes – he chooses instead to continue to diminish himself to a sycophantic speaker for the rabid right wing who deny the inevitable facts of climate changes. His and the collective hatred of the right-wing for all things Democratic, especially all things related to Al Gore, will be their downfall.
Good for Sam Donaldson in calling Will on his foolishness.
For his own sake, Will should retire from political commentary and return to writing about baseball.

]]> By: Jim http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119088 Jim Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:06:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119088 #15: <em>See what I mean about Will, and “conservative” talking points? Talk about bloviating!</em> You obviously don't understand. When people on the Left opine on a particular subject, it's called "bloviating." When people on the Right do it, it's called "commentary." What matters, of course, is not what you call it, but whether or not you're right. Gore has the backing of scientific research; Will has the backing of right-wing ideology. #15: See what I mean about Will, and “conservative” talking points? Talk about bloviating!

You obviously don’t understand. When people on the Left opine on a particular subject, it’s called “bloviating.” When people on the Right do it, it’s called “commentary.”

What matters, of course, is not what you call it, but whether or not you’re right. Gore has the backing of scientific research; Will has the backing of right-wing ideology.

]]> By: dan12992 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119087 dan12992 Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:01:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119087 To those who say global warming is a hoax I submit the following: I drove by your home a few minutes ago, and noticed smoke and flames coming from your roof. I stopped, banged on the door, and told you I though your home was on fire. You said "it's probably not a fire; we should wait a few days to make sure. Besides, if we called the fire department now, they would make us vacate the house, and there's a great football game on TV." To those who say global warming is a hoax I submit the following:

I drove by your home a few minutes ago, and noticed smoke and flames coming from your roof. I stopped, banged on the door, and told you I though your home was on fire.

You said “it’s probably not a fire; we should wait a few days to make sure. Besides, if we called the fire department now, they would make us vacate the house, and there’s a great football game on TV.”

]]> By: Shayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119081 Shayne Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:37:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119081 hterrya, sorry about misspelling your name, I'm losing it. Hearing even second hand what the likes of Will, Carlson and all of Fox News has to say kills brain cells. hterrya, sorry about misspelling your name, I’m losing it. Hearing even second hand what the likes of Will, Carlson and all of Fox News has to say kills brain cells.

]]> By: Shayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119080 Shayne Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:35:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119080 OK hyterra, I didn't know Tuckedin had already won. But I can't believe George Will hasn't already. So much putz competition out there. OK hyterra, I didn’t know Tuckedin had already won. But I can’t believe George Will hasn’t already. So much putz competition out there.

]]> By: joe cantwell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119056 joe cantwell Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:12:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119056 bravo sam! bravo sam!

]]> By: hterrya http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119054 hterrya Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:10:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119054 Comment by hterrya — October 14, 2007 @ 3:07 pm Will has=Will <em>hasn't</em> Sorry Comment by hterrya — October 14, 2007 @ 3:07 pm
Will has=Will hasn’t
Sorry

]]> By: hterrya http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119052 hterrya Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:07:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119052 I’d agree with you hterrya on Will being media putz if I hadn’t see Tucker Carlson on Bill Mahers show Friday night interrupting every topic with his inane, inaccurate blabbering. Thus, I’d say it’s a tie. <em>Comment by Shayne — October 14, 2007 @ 2:57 pm</em> Tucker Carlson has already received the award for July 26, 2007! http://mediaputz.com/07/07/putz0726.html Will has received an award, <strong><em>yet</em>!</strong> I'd say it's Georgie's turn! <strong>{:-)</strong> I’d agree with you hterrya on Will being media putz if I hadn’t see Tucker Carlson on Bill Mahers show Friday night interrupting every topic with his inane, inaccurate blabbering. Thus, I’d say it’s a tie.
Comment by Shayne — October 14, 2007 @ 2:57 pm

Tucker Carlson has already received the award for July 26, 2007!
http://mediaputz.com/07/07/putz0726.html

Will has received an award, yet! I’d say it’s Georgie’s turn! {:-)

]]> By: hterrya http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119051 hterrya Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:00:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119051 Fox All Stars: ‘Anti-American’ Al Gore Shouldn’t Have Won Nobel For ‘Bloviating’ About Warming On Fox News Sunday this morning, Weekly Standard editor William Kristol and conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer attacked former Vice President Al Gore’s Nobel Peace Prize win, calling him “anti-American” and derisively claiming that he got the award for “nothing” but “bloviating about global warming.” Sarcastically calling Gore’s win “deeply moving,” Kristol disparaged Gore and the Nobel prize itself, saying “it’s a prize given by bloviators to a bloviator”: KRISTOL: Friday, I felt a warm glow thinking that this man got the Nobel Peace Prize for bloviating about global warming. I mean, it’s a prize given by bloviators to a bloviator for nothing. What did he — he was Vice President of the United States for eight years. I missed the Clinton administration’s bold initiatives on global warming and carbon caps. Did they enforce the Kyoto Treaty? I don’t think so. You know, so he gets the Nobel Peace Prize for talking. See: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/kristol-krauthammer-gore/#comments See what I mean about Will, and "conservative" talking points? Talk about bloviating! Fox All Stars: ‘Anti-American’ Al Gore Shouldn’t Have Won Nobel For ‘Bloviating’ About Warming
On Fox News Sunday this morning, Weekly Standard editor William Kristol and conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer attacked former Vice President Al Gore’s Nobel Peace Prize win, calling him “anti-American” and derisively claiming that he got the award for “nothing” but “bloviating about global warming.”

Sarcastically calling Gore’s win “deeply moving,” Kristol disparaged Gore and the Nobel prize itself, saying “it’s a prize given by bloviators to a bloviator”:

KRISTOL: Friday, I felt a warm glow thinking that this man got the Nobel Peace Prize for bloviating about global warming. I mean, it’s a prize given by bloviators to a bloviator for nothing. What did he — he was Vice President of the United States for eight years. I missed the Clinton administration’s bold initiatives on global warming and carbon caps. Did they enforce the Kyoto Treaty? I don’t think so. You know, so he gets the Nobel Peace Prize for talking.

See: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/kristol-krauthammer-gore/#comments

See what I mean about Will, and “conservative” talking points? Talk about bloviating!

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119050 RUCerious Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:58:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119050 Wanted: mapmaker to construct map of George Will's burial plot. Descendants will need to locate for urination ritual. Wanted: mapmaker to construct map of George Will’s burial plot.
Descendants will need to locate for urination ritual.

]]> By: Shayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119049 Shayne Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:57:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119049 I'd agree with you hterrya on Will being media putz if I hadn't see Tucker Carlson on Bill Mahers show Friday night interrupting every topic with his inane, inaccurate blabbering. Thus, I'd say it's a tie. I’d agree with you hterrya on Will being media putz if I hadn’t see Tucker Carlson on Bill Mahers show Friday night interrupting every topic with his inane, inaccurate blabbering. Thus, I’d say it’s a tie.

]]> By: hterrya http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-4119046 hterrya Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:54:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/14/sam-donaldson-blasts-george-wills-climate-denial/#comment-4119046 I just nominated George Will for Meia Putz of the Week: http://www.mediaputz.com/nominate.html Here is my "reason for nomination:" "George Will is Rush Limbaugh on a diet. Will's exchange with Sam Donaldson over global climate change is just ONE example of his repeating "conservative" talking points over and over again without the necessity of thinking. In contrast to Limbaugh, George just uses more erudite-sounding words, and looks serious. George Will has been a media putz for YEARS. Now is the time for you to recognize him!" I just nominated George Will for Meia Putz of the Week: http://www.mediaputz.com/nominate.html

Here is my “reason for nomination:”

“George Will is Rush Limbaugh on a diet.

Will’s exchange with Sam Donaldson over global climate change is just ONE example of his repeating “conservative” talking points over and over again without the necessity of thinking.

In contrast to Limbaugh, George just uses more erudite-sounding words, and looks serious.

George Will has been a media putz for YEARS. Now is the time for you to recognize him!”

]]>