the ones making the claims in the article were unable to explain why they waited to get permission to tap when the law clearly states they can tap for 72 hours BEFORE needing a warrant.

also

they were unable to explain why these warrant laws, which relate ONLY to communications that somehow involved the domestic united states, were needed for tapping phone calls IN IRAQ. I fail to see any evidence put on by anyone.. them..you.. anyone.. that calls made and received in the middle east somehow pass through united states territory on thier way to and fro. If they did, it would seem highly inefficient…

reasons such as these is why we discounted the soldier story, not because it was from the NY post…

Someone get bigfoot some documents from Niger provided by British Intelligence.. he needs some real solid proof before he beleives things..

In all that time, you’d think that he might have tried to distinguish himself by writing an opinion every now and then, instead of serving as Scalia’s rubber stamp. Instead, he wants to complain about the racist treatment he endured while denying that racism has put any other blacks at a serious disadvantage.

Holy shit, Clarence. A highly qualified black man did serve on the Supreme Court, was much admired and had a sterling career. You might have heard of him. You took his slot on the bench. Grab an encyclopedia and look up “Thurgood Marshall”.

And then go do something with your life besides piss and moan.

Keep trying, Sport. It is a pleasure watching you struggle to defend ThinkProgress’ inconsistency.

Heh! So, you are saying that a gossip columnist in a newspaper does not have an obligation to be factually accurate??? Heh! Well, then you just made the argument that the Cindy Adams piece is not accurate….

You really stumbled over yourself there, didn’t you?

Setting aside your rhetorical ineptitude and lapses in logic, the fact remains that ThinkProgress dismissed one article on the grounds it appeared in The New York Post and then IN THE VERY NEXT thread vouched for The New York Post’s credibility by posting an article from Cindy Adams….

It is MOST amusing to see some of you folks tying yourself in knots trying to reconcile this embarassing inconsistency on the part of TP.

Comment by pbg — October 15, 2007 @ 4:52 pm

That’s why conservatives are so harmful to the country. They live in a world that never existed, a world where things were “better”, but only for people that looked and thought like them. the whole wingnut phiolosphy is based on a lie called “the good old days”. Exley and his ilk want a return to slavery, child labor, robber barons, second-class citizenship for all but white males, poll taxes, segregation, and all of the other shameful things progressives fought and died to eliminate, to make this nation into a reflection of its ideals, rather than a coverup of same. Not all conservatives are nazis, but all nazis are conservatives.

Comment by Exley — October 15, 2007 @ 4:38 pm

And you still don’t understand the difference between a columnist and a news reporter. Your old framing tricks don’t work any more, Exlax, we are smarter than you. Facts favor the left.

Comment by Keltoi — October 15, 2007 @ 4:26 pm

Well Keltoi, maybe you need to be posting on an etiquette site. Interesting you don’t have trouble with the lies and dirty tricks that come out of the right wing, you have trouble with the lack of civility around here when we talk about the lies they have started.

Comment by republicans hate facts — October 15, 2007 @ 4:17 pm

Pointing out right wing dirty tricks on TP would be a bit redundant, considering that is the rationale for the entire site. I have never defended Rush, in fact I have criticized him for his phony soldier comment.

Please hear me: I think American culture in general has a lack of civility and I think that is a shame. It is not the purview of any one political philosophy.

No…there are some folks I just don’t respond to.

Comment by Keltoi — October 15, 2007 @ 3:51 pm

Hey Keltoi, do you have an ignore list?

Comment by Bobwurst — October 15, 2007 @ 3:45 pm

Dick Durbin comparing US soldiers to Nazis? John Kerry accusing our soldiers of terrorizing women and children? Cindy Sheehan saying the suicide bombers in Iraq are freedom fighters? Tune in to the Randy Rhodes show for 10 minutes?

We should all be condemning ALL political discourse that is based on personal attacks, not just those emanating from people we disagree with. That was the original point I was trying to make.

Comment by Exley — October 15, 2007 @ 3:42 pm

Sure Exley, and you might want to read the paragraph at the top of the page so you understand the topic of the thread. Maybe you’re mommy can read it to you since you seem unable to understand. Or does she refuse to come down to the basement anymore?

So, it is Bush’s fault, I assume? Bush and his admin are on “the right”, I believe.

It’s this administration’s fault…as it is the fault of Congress for initially rubber-stamping his every whim, and then failing to stop him as he continued his campaign of fascism.

And among those people in Congress are those on the “left, just as there are those on the “right”.

In fact, Congress is (nominally) controlled by the “left”, but you don’t hear me exonerating them, do you?

In fact, if you were serious about ascertaining my views, you’d do a search of this site, to find that on multiple occasions, I have roundly condemned the “left”, for aiding and abetting this corrupt and criminal administration. But you’re not serious, are you? You’re just serious about attempting to obscure the issue with the tired “Repub vs. Dem” dichotomy. Pity it’s not working for you…

Comment by republicans hate facts — October 15, 2007 @ 3:35 pm

I never accused anyone of anything, I made a general assessment on the state of political discourse and observed it lacked in traditional respect for the loyal opposition. I think both sides of the spectrum are guilty. I try reeaalllly hard to be respectful to people I disagree with, and often I get personal attacks in response. That is okay, it reflects more on the person doing the name calling than me.

As far as my words being the words of a Fascist, well sir, your understanding of what a Fascist is must be wildly different from my own. It is possible to be conservative without being a Nazi. If you don’t grasp that basic fact then I guess we have nothing to discuss and should drop it.

You, who have never met me, call me a Fascist, then you say I am projecting a lack of decorum and gentility on you?

If the shoe fits…

Why is a face-to face meeting now necessary? Your words here spell it out clearly enough.

Doesn’t that seem a tad ironic? Name calling IN ALL CAPITALS is precisely the type of behavior I refer to.

Oh yes…positively frightful! The United States is practicing TORTURE, but never mind that….some one typed a harsh message in ALL CAPS! The horror!