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		<title>By: JoeySoCal</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/15/the-parents-of-graeme-frost-speak-out/comment-page-2/#comment-4122263</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeySoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scum slurping ThugliCons can rot in Hell, Hell, Hell for their Sins, Sins, Sins against all that is humane and decent in this world. I spit on them, with phlem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scum slurping ThugliCons can rot in Hell, Hell, Hell for their Sins, Sins, Sins against all that is humane and decent in this world. I spit on them, with phlem.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4122263', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/15/the-parents-of-graeme-frost-speak-out/comment-page-2/#comment-4121048</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;In your world, a doctor wouldnâ€™t have to pay for medical school?

I know in Bigfoots world, doctors would get thier advertising paid for by the government, because its PROMOTE, not PROViDE, right bigfoot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;In your world, a doctor wouldnâ€™t have to pay for medical school?</p>
<p>I know in Bigfoots world, doctors would get thier advertising paid for by the government, because its PROMOTE, not PROViDE, right bigfoot?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4121048', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/15/the-parents-of-graeme-frost-speak-out/comment-page-2/#comment-4121033</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>biggie.. still waiting.. whats an example of something you think the government should be able to do that validly &quot;promotes the general welfare&quot;...? and we know you&#039;re a brilliant constitutional scholar so please dont include anything that would fall under the commerce clause, which obviously is something completely different, otherwise they wouldnt have bothered adding the welfare clause at all..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>biggie.. still waiting.. whats an example of something you think the government should be able to do that validly &#8220;promotes the general welfare&#8221;&#8230;? and we know you&#8217;re a brilliant constitutional scholar so please dont include anything that would fall under the commerce clause, which obviously is something completely different, otherwise they wouldnt have bothered adding the welfare clause at all..<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4121033', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ditch Mitch KY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ditch Mitch KY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Newsflash:  McConnell&#039;s office admits that Don Stewart sent Oct. 8th email with lies about the Frost family to GOP and media.&lt;/strong&gt;

Of course, this was followed by Stewart&#039;s quick disclaimer that he sent a second email saying, &quot;My bad.&quot;  

Hey Don, the damage was done.  CNN&#039;s John Roberts quoted your email and started the right wing smear against the Frosts.   Nine days after Stewart&#039;s email, McConnell has a scandal on his hands.  Mitch is used to controlling the media and he usually gets away with lies and slurs to promote the neo-con agenda.

Not this time.  Hold McConnell&#039;s feet to the fire.  For more info: www.ditchmitchky.com.   Call McC&#039;s office in DC, 1-800-828-0498, and in Louisville, 502-582-6304.  Demand the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Newsflash:  McConnell&#8217;s office admits that Don Stewart sent Oct. 8th email with lies about the Frost family to GOP and media.</strong></p>
<p>Of course, this was followed by Stewart&#8217;s quick disclaimer that he sent a second email saying, &#8220;My bad.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Hey Don, the damage was done.  CNN&#8217;s John Roberts quoted your email and started the right wing smear against the Frosts.   Nine days after Stewart&#8217;s email, McConnell has a scandal on his hands.  Mitch is used to controlling the media and he usually gets away with lies and slurs to promote the neo-con agenda.</p>
<p>Not this time.  Hold McConnell&#8217;s feet to the fire.  For more info: <a href="http://www.ditchmitchky.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ditchmitchky.com</a>.   Call McC&#8217;s office in DC, 1-800-828-0498, and in Louisville, 502-582-6304.  Demand the truth.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4121029', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: missmolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>missmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In my world, a doctorâ€™s visit would still be $30 because we wouldnâ€™t be saddling doctors with the burden of hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loans to pay back&quot;

Comment by O. Bigfoot â€” October 16, 2007 @ 2:33 am

In your world, a doctor wouldn&#039;t have to pay for medical school?  This is a new one.  Can you expand on that a little?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In my world, a doctorâ€™s visit would still be $30 because we wouldnâ€™t be saddling doctors with the burden of hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loans to pay back&#8221;</p>
<p>Comment by O. Bigfoot â€” October 16, 2007 @ 2:33 am</p>
<p>In your world, a doctor wouldn&#8217;t have to pay for medical school?  This is a new one.  Can you expand on that a little?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4121026', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason M. Hendler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason M. Hendler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn, exactly the spectacle that the libs wanted to create.  Americans are immune to this tactic, since you overplayed that hand too many times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn, exactly the spectacle that the libs wanted to create.  Americans are immune to this tactic, since you overplayed that hand too many times.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4121012', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: deebaser</title>
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		<dc:creator>deebaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The facts are this: Over 18 and you are considered an adult. If you want those between 18 and 25 to be considered children, then they should be treated as such: None of the priveliges of adulthood should come until 25. I think a lot of 18 to 25 year olds would bristle at the idea, but Iâ€™m sure there are some who would prefer the coddling to go on a little longer.

No family of say, 3 or 4, should get be getting government sponsered health care if they are making 40 grand a year or better. Folks can pay their own, thatâ€™s what the free market is all about. Itâ€™s called personal responsibility. Personal responsibility is something most libs want to take away from people, substituting it with the nanny state.&quot;

In both the SCHIP expansion and pretty much all private medical carriers 18-23 is considered a dependant if you are a full time student. SCHIP would only cover these &quot;phony children&quot; to 25 if they were enrolled in a university full time. I don&#039;t see much problem with college students from lower income families utilizing this program.

As for the oft quoted family making 83,000 dollars. You may not be aware, but the amendment was to allow states such as NY to cover up to 400% the federal poverty level. If you go to salary.com, you can see that the cost of living in New York State doubles most of the country. 83,000 for a family of four here is pretty much working poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The facts are this: Over 18 and you are considered an adult. If you want those between 18 and 25 to be considered children, then they should be treated as such: None of the priveliges of adulthood should come until 25. I think a lot of 18 to 25 year olds would bristle at the idea, but Iâ€™m sure there are some who would prefer the coddling to go on a little longer.</p>
<p>No family of say, 3 or 4, should get be getting government sponsered health care if they are making 40 grand a year or better. Folks can pay their own, thatâ€™s what the free market is all about. Itâ€™s called personal responsibility. Personal responsibility is something most libs want to take away from people, substituting it with the nanny state.&#8221;</p>
<p>In both the SCHIP expansion and pretty much all private medical carriers 18-23 is considered a dependant if you are a full time student. SCHIP would only cover these &#8220;phony children&#8221; to 25 if they were enrolled in a university full time. I don&#8217;t see much problem with college students from lower income families utilizing this program.</p>
<p>As for the oft quoted family making 83,000 dollars. You may not be aware, but the amendment was to allow states such as NY to cover up to 400% the federal poverty level. If you go to salary.com, you can see that the cost of living in New York State doubles most of the country. 83,000 for a family of four here is pretty much working poor.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4120966', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/15/the-parents-of-graeme-frost-speak-out/comment-page-2/#comment-4120965</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;O Bigfascist will probably dump her off with the homeless.

at least he&#039;ll have tatertots and his television set full of free, government funded commericals for health insurance that are helping to PROMOTE the general welfare by informing people insurance is available..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;O Bigfascist will probably dump her off with the homeless.</p>
<p>at least he&#8217;ll have tatertots and his television set full of free, government funded commericals for health insurance that are helping to PROMOTE the general welfare by informing people insurance is available..<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4120965', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Donâ€™t despair, you can still learn, if you are open-minded and remain teachable.
Comment by O. Bigfoot â€” October 16, 2007 @ 3:01 am&lt;/em&gt;

You should get a gold medal for that projection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Donâ€™t despair, you can still learn, if you are open-minded and remain teachable.<br />
Comment by O. Bigfoot â€” October 16, 2007 @ 3:01 am</em></p>
<p>You should get a gold medal for that projection.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4120964', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Apparently Big thinks the Constitution guarantees his wife access to cheap cigarettes, but does not guarantee children the right to affordable health care. Weird.
Comment by Candyce â€” October 16, 2007 @ 8:43 am&lt;/em&gt;

Just wait until she has a stroke, heart attack, or lung cancer, and send the family into financial ruin.  O Bigfascist will probably dump her off with the homeless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Apparently Big thinks the Constitution guarantees his wife access to cheap cigarettes, but does not guarantee children the right to affordable health care. Weird.<br />
Comment by Candyce â€” October 16, 2007 @ 8:43 am</em></p>
<p>Just wait until she has a stroke, heart attack, or lung cancer, and send the family into financial ruin.  O Bigfascist will probably dump her off with the homeless.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4120962', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/15/the-parents-of-graeme-frost-speak-out/comment-page-2/#comment-4120936</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and while your at it bigfoot , please explain how your definition  of &quot;general defense&quot; means &quot;any offensive action anywhere on the globe, no matter how far removed from our homeland&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and while your at it bigfoot , please explain how your definition  of &#8220;general defense&#8221; means &#8220;any offensive action anywhere on the globe, no matter how far removed from our homeland&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4120936', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bigfoot I think I&#039;m getting somewhere by trying to jump into your tiny mind... I&#039;ll bet you believe that &quot;promoting the general welfare&quot; includes things like paying for advertisements for  medical insurance companies, right? hahahahahh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bigfoot I think I&#8217;m getting somewhere by trying to jump into your tiny mind&#8230; I&#8217;ll bet you believe that &#8220;promoting the general welfare&#8221; includes things like paying for advertisements for  medical insurance companies, right? hahahahahh<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4120931', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry meant: bigfoot, what iF what is being promoted is â€œhealthinessâ€ not â€œmedical careâ€,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry meant: bigfoot, what iF what is being promoted is â€œhealthinessâ€ not â€œmedical careâ€,<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4120922', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bigfoot, what is what is being promoted is &quot;healthiness&quot; not &quot;medical care&quot;,

did you ever consider this possibility?

do you think medical care helps promote the general welfare?


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/promote
promote 
1. to help or encourage to exist or flourish; further: to promote world peace.  
2. to advance in rank, dignity, position, etc. (opposed to demote).  
3. Education. to put ahead to the next higher stage or grade of a course or series of classes.  
4. to aid in organizing (business undertakings).  
5. to encourage the sales, acceptance, etc., of (a product), esp. through advertising or other publicity.  
6. Informal. to obtain (something) by cunning or trickery; wangle.  


vs. 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/provide
1. to make available; furnish: to provide employees with various benefits.  
2. to supply or equip: to provide the army with new fighter planes.  
3. to afford or yield.  
4. Law. to arrange for or stipulate beforehand, as by a provision or proviso.  
5. Archaic. to prepare or procure beforehand.  
â€“verb (used without object) 6. to take measures with due foresight (usually fol. by for or against).  
7. to make arrangements for supplying means of support, money, etc. (usually fol. by for): He provided for his children in his will.  
8. to supply means of support (often fol. by for): to provide for oneself.  

arent you the guy thats trying to argue &quot;Accoutant&quot; and &quot;Accountability&quot; are the same thing even though thier dictionary definitions have absolutely nothing in common? please explain the logic you use to determine that &quot;accountant&quot; and &quot;accountability&quot; have interchangeable definitions but &quot;provide&quot; and  &quot;promote&quot; are wholly irreconcilable..?

we[&#039;re waiting... oh, and &quot;they are spelled almost the same&quot; isnt a valid argument.. using that argument I could equate Iraq and Iran.. and .. oh whoops.. i guess you pretty much do equate iraq and iran.. nevermind..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bigfoot, what is what is being promoted is &#8220;healthiness&#8221; not &#8220;medical care&#8221;,</p>
<p>did you ever consider this possibility?</p>
<p>do you think medical care helps promote the general welfare?</p>
<p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/promote" rel="nofollow">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/promote</a><br />
promote<br />
1. to help or encourage to exist or flourish; further: to promote world peace.<br />
2. to advance in rank, dignity, position, etc. (opposed to demote).<br />
3. Education. to put ahead to the next higher stage or grade of a course or series of classes.<br />
4. to aid in organizing (business undertakings).<br />
5. to encourage the sales, acceptance, etc., of (a product), esp. through advertising or other publicity.<br />
6. Informal. to obtain (something) by cunning or trickery; wangle.  </p>
<p>vs. </p>
<p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/provide" rel="nofollow">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/provide</a><br />
1. to make available; furnish: to provide employees with various benefits.<br />
2. to supply or equip: to provide the army with new fighter planes.<br />
3. to afford or yield.<br />
4. Law. to arrange for or stipulate beforehand, as by a provision or proviso.<br />
5. Archaic. to prepare or procure beforehand.<br />
â€“verb (used without object) 6. to take measures with due foresight (usually fol. by for or against).<br />
7. to make arrangements for supplying means of support, money, etc. (usually fol. by for): He provided for his children in his will.<br />
8. to supply means of support (often fol. by for): to provide for oneself.  </p>
<p>arent you the guy thats trying to argue &#8220;Accoutant&#8221; and &#8220;Accountability&#8221; are the same thing even though thier dictionary definitions have absolutely nothing in common? please explain the logic you use to determine that &#8220;accountant&#8221; and &#8220;accountability&#8221; have interchangeable definitions but &#8220;provide&#8221; and  &#8220;promote&#8221; are wholly irreconcilable..?</p>
<p>we[&#8217;re waiting&#8230; oh, and &#8220;they are spelled almost the same&#8221; isnt a valid argument.. using that argument I could equate Iraq and Iran.. and .. oh whoops.. i guess you pretty much do equate iraq and iran.. nevermind..<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4120921', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/15/the-parents-of-graeme-frost-speak-out/comment-page-2/#comment-4120908</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;The Constitution says â€œpromote the general welfareâ€, 
&gt;it does not say â€œprovide the general welfareâ€. For those who are too &gt;dense to understand thisâ€¦â€promoteâ€ means to allow the
&gt; situation to exist for certain actions to occur. â€œProvideâ€ means give.

Oh so now your a constitutional scholar as well? I hate to p1ss on your parade but not only are you incorrect in asserting merely a single defintion for the words &quot;provide&quot; and &quot;promote&quot;, but are you also arguing against years of supreme court precedent which has in fact interpeted those constitutional provisions differently. Of course thank god know you know more than those pesky supreme court justices. Your ignorant white trash with not a day of legal education and your arguments are some of the most inane and legally unsound ive ever heard. 

Also, while your dazzling us with your brillEnt display of constitional knowldge, why dont you give us an example of something that falls under the banner of &quot;promoting the general welfare&quot; if you think healthcare doesnt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;The Constitution says â€œpromote the general welfareâ€,<br />
&gt;it does not say â€œprovide the general welfareâ€. For those who are too &gt;dense to understand thisâ€¦â€promoteâ€ means to allow the<br />
&gt; situation to exist for certain actions to occur. â€œProvideâ€ means give.</p>
<p>Oh so now your a constitutional scholar as well? I hate to p1ss on your parade but not only are you incorrect in asserting merely a single defintion for the words &#8220;provide&#8221; and &#8220;promote&#8221;, but are you also arguing against years of supreme court precedent which has in fact interpeted those constitutional provisions differently. Of course thank god know you know more than those pesky supreme court justices. Your ignorant white trash with not a day of legal education and your arguments are some of the most inane and legally unsound ive ever heard. </p>
<p>Also, while your dazzling us with your brillEnt display of constitional knowldge, why dont you give us an example of something that falls under the banner of &#8220;promoting the general welfare&#8221; if you think healthcare doesnt.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4120908', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/15/the-parents-of-graeme-frost-speak-out/comment-page-2/#comment-4120835</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;especially given our experience with how the government runs its VA &gt;medical program.

YOUR government not mine pal. I don&#039;t recognize this government&#039;s legitimacy.

 classic republican tactic.. screw things up then use those screw ups as examples of why we shouldnt get government involved. id rather have government involved in healthcare than leaving the decisions up to some corporate CEO who makes more money the less people his company covers.

ps.. i cant speak for everyone but some don&#039;t sign thier real names because we don&#039;t want to have to deal with psychopaths like the Malkin Mafia..although even calling them mafia is ascribing them more panache and mystique than they deserve.. maybe Mallkin Mauveshirts is a better title...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;especially given our experience with how the government runs its VA &gt;medical program.</p>
<p>YOUR government not mine pal. I don&#8217;t recognize this government&#8217;s legitimacy.</p>
<p> classic republican tactic.. screw things up then use those screw ups as examples of why we shouldnt get government involved. id rather have government involved in healthcare than leaving the decisions up to some corporate CEO who makes more money the less people his company covers.</p>
<p>ps.. i cant speak for everyone but some don&#8217;t sign thier real names because we don&#8217;t want to have to deal with psychopaths like the Malkin Mafia..although even calling them mafia is ascribing them more panache and mystique than they deserve.. maybe Mallkin Mauveshirts is a better title&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4120835', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hterrya</title>
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		<dc:creator>hterrya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Frosts didn&#039;t seem like people being &quot;used&quot; by the Democrats as the &quot;conservatives&quot; claim.  Instead, they seemed like a family who benefitted greatly from the SCHIP program, and wanted many other families in their situation to benefit, as well.  It seemed to me, from watching them on Countdown that they were using a platform the Democrats (and, now, Olbermann) are providing to get the word out.

The question of the constitutionality of the SCHIP program is a &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;digression&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; from the topic: the Frosts think the program should be expanded, and have used their own personal experience with the program to come to that conclusion.  

Unless you are a troll, it doesn&#039;t take half the thread to agree with them, or agree with the current corrupt, crooked, warmongering president -- who only has 462 days left, if impeachment and removal doesn&#039;t come sooner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Frosts didn&#8217;t seem like people being &#8220;used&#8221; by the Democrats as the &#8220;conservatives&#8221; claim.  Instead, they seemed like a family who benefitted greatly from the SCHIP program, and wanted many other families in their situation to benefit, as well.  It seemed to me, from watching them on Countdown that they were using a platform the Democrats (and, now, Olbermann) are providing to get the word out.</p>
<p>The question of the constitutionality of the SCHIP program is a <em><strong>digression</strong></em> from the topic: the Frosts think the program should be expanded, and have used their own personal experience with the program to come to that conclusion.  </p>
<p>Unless you are a troll, it doesn&#8217;t take half the thread to agree with them, or agree with the current corrupt, crooked, warmongering president &#8212; who only has 462 days left, if impeachment and removal doesn&#8217;t come sooner!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4120789', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Roger_Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger_Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The WIlkersons are the people the program was supposed to help.  These rich people were never the scope and shouldn&#039;t be.  We are Americans afterall and we aren&#039;t interested in Socialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The WIlkersons are the people the program was supposed to help.  These rich people were never the scope and shouldn&#8217;t be.  We are Americans afterall and we aren&#8217;t interested in Socialism.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4120784', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/15/the-parents-of-graeme-frost-speak-out/comment-page-2/#comment-4120768</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dump the Blue Dogs.. its people like this that prevent real Dems from getting much done...

http://openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=917</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dump the Blue Dogs.. its people like this that prevent real Dems from getting much done&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=917" rel="nofollow">http://openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=917</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4120768', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Candyce</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/15/the-parents-of-graeme-frost-speak-out/comment-page-2/#comment-4120765</link>
		<dc:creator>Candyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently Big thinks the Constitution guarantees his wife access to cheap cigarettes, but does not guarantee children the right to affordable health care.  Weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Big thinks the Constitution guarantees his wife access to cheap cigarettes, but does not guarantee children the right to affordable health care.  Weird.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4120765', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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