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McConnell caught in a lie about SCHIP smear campaign.

On Thursday, ThinkProgress reported that Don Stewart, the communications director for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), had sent an e-mail encouraging reporters to cover the right-wing smear campaign of 12-year old Graeme Frost. But on Friday, McConnell claimed his office was not involved:

Q: Was there an indication that your office was trying to push reporters to dig into this 12-year old’s background?

McCONNELL: No

Q: Then what was the deal with the e-mail from your staffer?

McCONNELL:There was no involvement whatsoever.

Q: From your staff.

McCONNELL: None.

Watch it:

Yesterday, Stewart admitted that he helped launch the smear campaign.

(HT: Page One Kentucky)



59 Responses to “McConnell caught in a lie about SCHIP smear campaign.”

  1. Your Conscience says:

    OK WHAS, ball is in your court. You HAVE been lied to lets see if you can do your job.


  2. upside99 says:

    It is HILARIOUS that all the Repugs were up in arms about Billy C lying about his blow job but have no compunction about lying their collective asses off when the mood hits them if it fits their agendas.

    I also wonder if McConnell will send a X-mas card to the Frosts this year? My guess is, he won’t get one from them.


  3. Veritas says:

    McConnell, the baglady, lying again? Amazing what he’s hiding underneath that chin of his!


  4. StratRat says:

    Another Christian lair.


  5. Jackie says:

    Well don’t look for Larry Craig to support him in his lie.
    McConnell another tip tip member of the men’s room Club is another closet gay. He was really fast in turning his back on a 27 year friendship with Craig. Now the public see the liar McConnell really is.


  6. Xisithrus says:

    Time to throw the staff under the bus…..


  7. scytherius says:

    If you are a Republican . . . you aren’t human.


  8. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    This is the consequence of the right-wing’s successful efforts to bring “balance” into a field where it is not necessary – journalism. Journalism is about finding and reporting the objective facts. Sure, a reporter might characterize the weather in a personal way (say, if he’s susceptible to the cold, he might give the impression that it’s colder than it really is, or would be to you and me), but that’s more of an adjective choice, not one of facts. But the right wing complained all the time that their “message” wasn’t getting out, so they started buying up media and presenting a heavily-slanted view of the news (to bring it into “balance”.) For example, you’ve probably heasrd of some news networks that feel if you aren’t getting both sides of the story, you’re not getting a “fair and balanced” view of the news. They feel you should present both sides of any dispute and give then equal validity. Then you’re supposed to let the viewers (or readers) decide. The problem is, when you don’t report the objective facts, the audience doesn’t know who is being truthful and who isn’t. So McConnell’s attitude is to deny that anyone on his staff was involved, and let the audience at home decide for themselves who’s telling the truth. A good reporter would follow up McConnell’s false denial with the fact that the staffer confessed to doing it. If that makes McConnell look bad, so what? He’s lying. Why should anyone go to the trouble of making him look good? That would not be in the nation’s best interests.


  9. Badmoodman says:

    McConnell did not lie. He was merely “in character” for the traveling Monty Python Show that’s coming to Kentucky, where he will audition for the Pet Store Owner in “The Dead Parrot” sketch.


  10. pluege says:

    a leading republican lied…oh…shock of shocks…
    .


  11. helenahandbasket says:

    Turtleboy is up in 2008. Maybe the good folks in the Bluegrass state can turn the turf there a nice aquamarine.


  12. Marcus Aurelius says:

    In addition to being a pasty-faced doughboy, McConnell is apparently a god-damned liar. And a Republican, no less. Surprise, surprise.


  13. joe cantwell says:

    he told the truth yesterday. then he lied today. amazing!


  14. theswan says:

    It’s tough going when all your collegues are so prone to lying or washroom adventure. And are sooo Christian to boot.


  15. Buckie Boy says:

    Repukian Fascist Brownshirt Lockstep Lemming Pigs Lie, DO TELL !!!
    Of course they lie, you can tell because their LIPS are MOVING.

    Buck Fush


  16. Zooey says:

    Now that was predictable.


  17. bilbobaggins says:

    Do you think that the press is ever going to go back to really reporting the news and even doing some investigating? I fear that we have lost our news forever to infotainment. All I can say is “thank god for the internet”.


  18. bilbobaggins says:

    And what’s with the reporter saying in the end “There’s no story in defending the Frost family”? So, there’s a story in sliming them, but no story in defending them? These people are truly sick and twisted. I would hate to be part of their extended family.


  19. Xisithrus says:

    What makes this story even better is that after McConnell’s aide tried to get reporters to push the story, he quickly realized a few hours later that the whole thing was a big sham and tried to call reporters off.

    They lie for the lie, they live for the lie, they lie for the sake of lying.

    And nearly all of them practice this art of lying. Coulter, Rove, Dick. Rush, Oreilly, Hannity, Morgan, Reed, Abramoff, Cunningham, Haggard, Craig, Allen, Murphy, Libby, Rice, Wolfowitz, Taylor, Doan, Malkin, Geraldo.

    God is not happy with liars.


  20. grover nerdkissed says:

    they lie for the sake of lying

    that is part of Leo Strauss’ philosophy.


  21. plunger says:

    Ron Suskind speaking to Karl Rove – the “Reality Creation Architect”:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?ex=1151899200&en=079d03a2a9db7c23&ei=5070

    It was during a press conference on Sept. 16, 2001, in response to a question about homeland security efforts infringing on civil rights, that Bush first used the telltale word ”crusade” in public. ”This is a new kind of — a new kind of evil,” he said. ”And we understand. And the American people are beginning to understand. This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while.”

    In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn’t like about Bush’s former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House’s displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn’t fully comprehend — but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.

    The aide said that guys like me were ”in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”


  22. plunger says:

    http://www.catalystmagazine.net/issues/story.cfm?story=475

    The Cult of Leo Strauss: Leo Strauss

    excerpt:

    Strauss’ ideas emerge from his life experience. Strauss fled Nazi Germany for the safety of America in 1937, and blamed not fascism but the Weimar Republic’s liberal democratic ideals for permitting the rise of Nazism. A classicist, he taught the works of Plato, Machiavelli, Nietzsche and Hobbes, instructing his students to look for secret “codes” in the texts. Truth, he believed, was the preserve of an elite few who might have to tell “noble lies” – an idea he lifted from Plato – to the uncomprehending masses. Are political entities, asked the charismatic Strauss, “not compelled to use force and fraud… if they are to prosper?”

    “‘Weapons of mass destruction’ would be a noble lie,” says Shadia Drury, a scholar who has written two books on Strauss, “because you’re convinced this [war on Iraq] is the right thing to do and you are the wise few, the elite, who are leading the stupid masses, and the stupid masses aren’t going to agree to sacrifice their lives for nothing – for the glory of the nation – unless their own survival is at stake.” So you tell them their own survival is at stake.

    Strauss believed that democracy, however flawed, was best defended by an ignorant public pumped up on nationalism and religion. Only a militantly nationalist state could deter human aggression, and since most people were naturally self-absorbed and hedonistic, Strauss believed that the only way to transform them was to make them love their nation enough to die for it. Such nationalism requires an external threat – and if one cannot be found, it must be manufactured.

    ROVE STUDIED STRAUSS


  23. plunger says:

    If you want to understand the NeoCons, you have to go to the source, Leo Strauss. He believed in lying to the people, to control them. He taught Wolfowitz and had secret society of how to manipulate politically through lies, and religion. Welcome to the NeoCon reality, where your constitution means nothing, but the politicians create the reality. Strauss is best written about by Shadia Drury.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadia_Drury

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Leo_Strauss

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Strauss

    Critics of Strauss also accuse him of elitism and anti-democratic sentiment. Shadia Drury, author of 1999’s Leo Strauss and the American Right, argues that Strauss taught different things to different students, and inculcated an elitist strain in American political leaders that is linked to imperialist militarism and Christian fundamentalism. Drury accuses Strauss of teaching that “perpetual deception of the citizens by those in power is critical because they need to be led, and they need strong rulers to tell them what’s good for them.” Drury adds, “The Weimar Republic was his model of liberal democracy… liberalism in Weimar, in Strauss’s view, led ultimately to the Nazi Holocaust against the Jews.”

    Leo Strauss’ Philosophy of Deception

    By Jim Lobe, AlterNet. Posted May 19, 2003.

    Many neoconservatives like Paul Wolfowitz are disciples of a philosopher who believed that the elite should use deception, religious fervor and perpetual war to control the ignorant masses.

    http://www.alternet.org/story/15935/


  24. plunger says:

    According to ABCNEWS sources, Israeli and U.S. government officials worked out a deal — and after 71 days, the five Israelis were taken out of jail, put on a plane, and deported back home.

    The men all underwent at least two polygraph tests each, the lawyer added. He said one of the Israelis took the test seven times, a very unusual total according to several polygraph experts interviewed by the Forward. All failed their tests.

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

    http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm

    http://killtown.blogspot.com/2005/11/dancing-israelis-on-911.html

    What did Ken Lay know and when did he know it?

    When Lay was on the stand and under oath, wouldn’t it have been great fun to ask him all about his meetings with George Bush Sr. and Dick Cheney prior to 9/11?

    Wouldn’t it be great to ask him if the faux California Energy Crisis which his company manufactured just prior to the 2000 elections was actually a scheme cooked up by he and Poppie Bush to compel Americans to install some oil experts in the White House? But what was to be Lay’s reward? After all, he was GW’s largest contributor and best friend of Poppie Bush. Poppie never planned on Enron going bust, and that’s when things started to fall apart.

    Wouldn’t if be nice to learn the details of how Lay and Cheney were divvying up the oil fields in Iraq on a big map, even before 9/11?

    Wouldn’t it be enlightening to hear that Lay knew for a fact that 9/11 was going to happen as the pretext for the war plan which he clearly had knowledge of prior to 9/11?

    Why would you sit around countless energy planning meetings dividing up the oil fields of Iraq in advance of 9/11 unless there were a plan in place to make it possible?

    Such a plan would by necessity be a war plan, and this war plan was actually in place prior to 9/11.

    Surely any good war plan requires at its core a starting point, a trigger if you will that provides a good “cover story” to implement it. Clearly you can’t just go around invading countries without a good reason…you need to be attacked first, then retaliate.

    Was 9/11 simply part of the war plan?

    Why wouldn’t it have been?

    You can’t hit the “GO” button without a pretext.

    9/11 was the pretext for the invasion of the Middle East – all by design.

    CAN YOU SAY COVERUP?


  25. plunger says:

    Remember that ALL of the evidence related to the Enron case was held in WTC 7, the building that magically fell into its own footprint on mere voice command (if you ignore all of the explosions and warnings that “this building is coming down”) on the afternoon of 9/11.

    CHENEY, HALLIBURTON, THE BUSH FAMILY, AND ASBESTOS

    Dick Cheney, Halliburton, Inc., and, reportedly, the Bush family are surprisingly well acquainted with asbestos-related concerns. [7]

    On December 18, 2002, CBS News reported that Halliburton “has agreed to pay about $4 billion in cash and stock to settle hundreds of thousands of asbestos claims against it.” Reportedly, Halliburton inherited its asbestos liability from Harbison-Walker, a unit of Halliburton’s subsidiary Dresser Industries, and from Halliburton’s Kellog Brown & Root subsidiary.

    “Dresser had close ties to a family Cheney knew well: the Bushes. Cheney’s boss while he served as Secretary of Defense, President George H.W. Bush, was once being groomed to run Dresser, a company that Bush’s father and grandfather had reshaped decades earlier.

    The WTC was a $15 billion HALLIBURTON liability.

    It was well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos bombshell. For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an aging dinosaur, attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish the building for liability reasons, but being turned down due the known asbestos problem. Further, it was well-known the only reason the building was still standing until 9/11 was because it was too costly to disassemble the twin towers floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited legally from demolishing the buildings.

    The projected cost to disassemble the towers: $15 Billion. Just the scaffolding for the operation was estimated at $2.4 Billion!

    In other words, the Twin Towers were condemned structures. How convenient that an unexpected “terrorist” attack demolished the buildings completely.

    WTC Building 7 was a part of the WTC complex, and covered under the same insurance policy. This 47-story steel-framed structure, which was NOT struck by an aircraft, mysteriously collapsed 8 hours later that same day into its own footprint at freefall speed – exactly in the manner of the Twin Towers.

    While Cheney was CEO of Halliburton, he CLAIMED he saw sound business reasons for acquiring Dresser, but there was a problem in its past — the use of asbestos in Harbison-Walker division products.”

    GW included the issue in his State of the Union speech in 2005.

    “To make our economy stronger and more competitive, America must reward, not punish, the efforts and dreams of entrepreneurs. Small business is the path of advancement, especially for women and minorities, so we must free small businesses from needless regulation and protect honest job-creators from junk lawsuits. (Applause.) Justice is distorted, and our economy is held back by irresponsible class-actions and frivolous asbestos claims — and I urge Congress to pass legal reforms this year.”


  26. plunger says:

    DOV ZAKHEIM:

    The CEO of Systems Planning’s international division, Dov Zakheim, is a long-time DoD and Republican Party insider, and a founding member of the Neoconservative cult. While Bush was still Governor of Texas, Zakheim became one of his closest advisers, counseling him on defense technology and strategic aspects of Middle Eastern affairs. After the 2000 “election,” Rummy rewarded Zakheim with a low-profile but strategically important position — Comptroller, i.e. head money man, of the Defense Department.

    Zakheim also co-authored the Heritage Foundation’s infamous tract, “Rebuilding America’s Defenses,” in which the Bush Administration’s entire design for renewed global conquest was laid down a full year prior to 9-11. On page 63, the authors note that timely implementation of their ideas would require “some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor.”

    see for yourself:

    http://www.newamericancentury.org/ RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

    Dov S. Zakheim was sworn in as the Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) and Chief Financial Officer for the Department of Defense on May 4, 2001.

    Left the Bush Administration in mid-2004 for Booz Allen.

    How Does Zakheim Fit In ?

    He helped mold the Mid-East policy, and controlled the Pentagon purse strings.

    Thanks to him, Israel, and their militia (Turkey), are awash in F-15’s, F-16’s, and the latest in offensive and defensive missile systems. Israel has a space program, ICBM’s, nukes, and lots more.

    Zakheim, who is a dual Israeli/American citizen and a Shul Rabbi, has stalked the halls of US government for 25 yrs. He has set defense policy which influenced Presidents Reagan, Clinton and Bush Sr. and Jr. This rabid Zionist was the controller of the Pentagon when an audit discovered over a trillion dollars was missing.

    Most of Israel’s armament was obtained thanks to him. Squads of US F-16 and F-15 were classified as military surplus and sold to Israel at a fraction of their value.

    Zakheim is a rabid Zionist, who carries an Israel passport and is considered to be one of the top members of the secretive Illuminati . He predicts 9/11 and by sheer coincidence the Pentagon is hit by a remote controlled jet (Zakheim’s ‘ SPC ‘ corporation is the premier company in the field).

    http://www.sysplan.com/Radar/FTS

    During his tenure as controller at the Pentagon from May 4, 2001 to March 10, 2004, over one trillion dollars was unaccounted for.

    Military information is jeopardized, military contractors billed the US for Israeli items, $50 million fighter jets are classified as surplus and the list goes on and on. As the scandal of the missing 3 trillion dollars surfaces the Rabbi quickly resigns.

    Here’s how it all came together:

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11385.htm

    Here’s why:

    On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attack would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was: “It’s very good…….Well, it’s not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)”


  27. plunger says:

    Conspiracy to Defraud the United States
    923 18 U.S.C. § 371

    Hass, 216 U.S. at 479-480. In Hammerschmidt, Chief Justice Taft, defined “defraud” as follows:

    To conspire to defraud the United States means primarily to cheat the Government out of property or money, but it also means to interfere with or obstruct one of its lawful governmental functions by deceit, craft or trickery, or at least by means that are dishonest. It is not necessary that the Government shall be subjected to property or pecuniary loss by the fraud, but only that its legitimate official action and purpose shall be defeated by misrepresentation, chicane or the overreaching of those charged with carrying out the governmental intention.

    http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room usam/ title9/crm00923.htm


  28. barfly says:

    Comments by plunger

    I hope you don’t mind me reporting you for spamming, but you’re over-the-top, and horribly off-topic.


  29. plunger says:

    Barfly:

    You’re welcome to do whatever you think important.

    As to the topic…it’s Fascism.

    Revealing how it works – including the Strausian components – is all part of the topic.

    If we are all encourage to focus only one small piece at a time – stay in line – remain “on topic,” the entire truth will never become evident.

    Connecting the dots is what I do.

    The actions of McConnell are learned behavior…all part of the broader CONSPIRACY – which you all see before you – but feel compelled to deny.

    The TOPIC is Fascism.

    Every Day.


  30. barfly says:

    If you read the thread title, it says nothing of fascism.


  31. plunger says:

    If you read the thread title, it says nothing of fascism.

    Comment by barfly — October 16, 2007 @ 9:13 pm

    An elected official involved in a smear campaign against a 12 year old boy to the sole benefit of the insurance companies at the expense of the people?

    It speaks ONLY of Fascism.

    Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers individual and other societal interests subordinate to the interests of the state. Fascists seek to forge a type of national unity, usually based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, or racial attributes. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, and opposition to economic and political liberalism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism


  32. barfly says:

    “The actions of McConnell are learned behavior…all part of the broader CONSPIRACY – which you all see before you – but feel compelled to deny.”

    I’m not denying anything. But if you think people don’t ignore long, consecutive posts, you have a higher regard for others’ attention spans – and patience – than I.


  33. plunger says:

    Attention spans and patience?

    As our soldiers are dying daily and our Constitution is being ripped to shreds?

    Excuse me for caring more about revealing the entire truth than being well liked.

    Thousands of hours of research is made available at no cost. If people don’t want to know the entire truth, because they have no patience to read it and absorb it – they get the country they deserve – while the world moves closer to its demise.


  34. barfly says:

    “An elected official involved in a smear campaign against a 12 year old boy to the sole benefit of the insurance companies at the expense of the people?

    It speaks ONLY of Fascism.”

    I have trouble with your “to the sole benefit of the insurance companies” assertion. This bogus attack benefits more than simply “insurance companies,” and you know it. It also gives rhetorical cover to those whose political agenda involves discrediting social services in general.


  35. plunger says:

    Thank you for confirming that this thread is about Fascism – precisely.


  36. barfly says:

    “If people don’t want to know the entire truth, because they have no patience to read it and absorb it – they get the country they deserve – while the world moves closer to its demise.”

    Comment by plunger

    Another false assertion. Working people have a limited amount of time to research such things, and it has little to do with their “patience,” so much as with their busy lives. You can stand on your virtual TP streetcorner posting “the end is near” as much as you like, but after a while, people will tune you out if all you’re doing is pontificating.


  37. barfly says:

    “Thank you for confirming that this thread is about Fascism – precisely.”

    Comment by plunger

    Who are you talking to? Not me, if you think anything I’ve typed agrees with your fascism assertion.


  38. kasinca says:

    If he was caught lying, he must have been caught with his mouth open. When has he not lied? When has Mitch Mconnell and the GOP ever told the truth? If the fascist pigs told the truth, they would never have been elected. Not ever the numbnuts in the 28% would vote for these fascists if they weren’t lied to.


  39. plunger says:

    Excuse me while I “tune you out” without critiquing your particular style, as you have felt the need to do with mine – up to and including reporting my posts as somehow abusive.

    If it is your goal to limit the quantity of truth that is revealed to the citizens of America, who do you suppose that benefits?

    Good evening.


  40. plunger says:

    I have trouble with your “to the sole benefit of the insurance companies” assertion. This bogus attack benefits more than simply “insurance companies,” and you know it. It also gives rhetorical cover to those whose political agenda involves discrediting social services in general.

    Comment by barfly — October 16, 2007 @ 9:24 pm

    This is the very definition of Fascism.


  41. Bob says:

    The United States of Fascist America?
    I don’t think the masses can keep up with an extra letter in the chant: it throws off the whole rhythm.


  42. Veritas says:

    Are Mitch’s lips moving? If so, then he’s lying.


  43. barfly says:

    Excuse me while I “tune you out” without critiquing your particular style, as you have felt the need to do with mine”

    Comment by plunger — October 16, 2007 @ 9:34 pm

    Comment by barfly — October 16, 2007 @ 9:24 pm

    This is the very definition of Fascism.

    Comment by plunger — October 16, 2007 @ 9:36 pm

    I thought you were going to tune me out…


  44. Bobby Brown says:

    Plunger,
    you’re Ace and I know there is room for your commentaries, tis a far stranger world out there than anyone can know. TP has had it’s fair share of crackpots in the past but I buy some of your insights, just tell me you’re not Santos!


  45. Ditch Mitch KY says:

    Introducing . . . Sen. Mitch McCacca!

    He was caught on WHAS tape, lying to Mark Hebert about the cover-up in his office regarding Don Stewart’s Oct. 8th email, which was the go ahead for the media to smear Graeme Frost and family. McCacca earned his new name.

    We are grateful that this is finally — after 8 days — a national story. McCacca is coming unraveled. He usually gets away with his slander smear hit jobs because he is a pathological liar who says, “I was not involved.” You were caught this time, McCacca, and it is about time.


  46. Xisithrus says:

    “An elected official involved in a smear campaign against a 12 year old boy to the sole benefit of the insurance companies at the expense of the people?

    I agree we are in a sad way when smearing children has become the fulcrum in fight over OUR money. Wheres the debate in that?

    I somewhat disagree with the term fascism as well. Corporations will surely use whatever means to make a profit but the government is not under the control of single corporate ideology that I know of so I withdraw from the term fascism, though we have alot of political hatred, for no good reason, other than idiot TV and those self-serving controversialists $$, note I didnt say conversationalists.

    Whereas many corporations do find favor with lobbyists and profiting thur earmarks and accepting government welfare, the Republican party, as late as 1994 was against such corporate welfare, such as John Reich, the labor of secretary.

    America was founded, funded I should say, by oligarchial thinking and thru the revolution and our constitution, we said, no thanks.

    Many of the Republicans fail to see that by reducing social systems for Americans by Americans, has the opposite effect of what was intended, it breaks apart our republic and does not strengthen it, We need only to look at the disparity charts to see that education is simply not the answer to the problem of the inherent problems with ‘bottom line’ economism which, by its unintended nature, creates disparity. America exploded unto the scene saving the oligarchy from collapse and now America is falling prey to what made it great, and the only way to keep growing is to keep finding cheaper sources and cheaper sources of labor.

    I hear the phrase “Liberals are communists living in America” which is of course just silly euphemism because its over exploitative capitalism that stagnates the pond. Look at what happened with the age of the robber barons, industrialism was great, at first, for America, no doubt, but the need for cheap labor soon created poverty, child labor, crime and wretched living conditions. Fat lotta good that did for humanty as a whole.

    Liberals will not destroy America nor will capitalism destroy America because they require one another to exist. Capitalism, be the CEO Atheist, Christian, Jewish or whatever creates liberalism. Liberalism, in reality, is being free to persue one own ideas and when that occurs Capitalism thrives. Just look around, people of all religions, or not, own bars, or sell beer, or make pornographic films, or become gay, or do drugs, or sell sex toys, make liberal movies, theme parks, technology, good and bad.

    Liberalism and Capitalism go hand in hand. So what is a liberal? Someone who gives more than they recieve. And what is its opposite? Usury, or someone who takes more than they give.

    America is the Santas versus the Grinches. Moderation is the Christmas tree the Grinch stole and then gave back.


  47. Ditch Mitch KY says:

    Bartlebee is right. McConnell was caught lying. He is trying to cover-up his role in the smear job of Graeme Frost. He lied on camera. Case closed.

    Call McConnell tomorrow and demand his resignation:
    Louisville: 502-582-6304
    DC: 1-800-828-0498


  48. foreyes says:

    Q: Then what was the deal with the e-mail from your staffer?
    McCONNELL:There was no involvement whatsoever.
    Q: From your staff.
    McCONNELL: None.

    Yesterday, Stewart admitted that he helped launch the smear campaign.

    Liar! Liar! Pants on fire!


  49. Wayne says:

    Being caught in a baldfaced lie, on TV no less….

    Isn’t that conduct unbecoming a Senator?

    Plus he broke the Mafia Republican’s number one rule.
    Don’t get caught.

    The Republicans should be hollering for him to resign.

    hehe


  50. rockyroad says:

    Plunger, I finally found you. You said:

    Excuse me while I “tune you out” without critiquing your particular style, as you have felt the need to do with mine – up to and including reporting my posts as somehow abusive.

    If it is your goal to limit the quantity of truth that is revealed to the citizens of America, who do you suppose that benefits?

    Good evening.

    Comment by plunger — October 16, 2007 @ 9:34 pm
    Recommend (1) | Report Abuse

    Good evenining. It is not the “quantity” but the “Quality” of truth that is sought. Ten pounds of your BS does not amount to a quantum of truth.


  51. rockyroad says:

    PS

    While your posts may not rise to the level of “abuse” in a clinical sense, they do amount to brain damage, a trying offense.

    Put the plunger to good use. . . . Plug it.


  52. hterrya says:

    I have reported plunger for abuse. He is a troll. He needs to be removed from the TP site permanently.

    Please join me in reporting him for abuse, and an attempt to dominate and distract this thread. Thank you.


  53. hterrya says:

    McConnell’s staff has rung the death knell of this useless senator’s career.

    Say good-bye, Mitch!


  54. rockyroad says:

    Plunger/Ace,

    You just messed with the wrong blogger.


  55. rockyroad says:

    Ace,

    I am patient. I have time.


  56. rockyroad says:

    I heard McConnell plans to retire.

    Any truth to that?


  57. Chocolate Jesus says:

    >I am patient. I have time.

    are you going to eat that skin?


  58. thelonegunman says:

    you can tell a Repig is lying when their lips move.


  59. williamf says:

    Same ol’ stuff. What I can’t understand is how these people who smear sleep at night. They put the smear out there on kids and anyone else that disagrees with them rather than having a good honest nose to nose debate. A healthy process not the childish shit they put out. These smear campaigns are worse than high school kids, in fact elementary school kids, sniping at each other. This is not what will move this country forward in a positive and effective manner. It’s one upmanship in rhetorical horseshit and that is as kind as I can be. Grow up McConnell and oh…you might want to check with your staff before you open your noise hole.



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