Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), who coined the label “hate radio” to refer to the virulent commentary on right-wing radio, again reiterated her point today in the context of the right-wing smears against Graeme Frost:
Hate radio has made a vicious attack on the Frost family, a family that was involved in a very serious automobile accident injuring two of its children who are SCHIP recipients. … Again, beneath the dignity of the debate but of course I would fight to the death for their right to say whatever they say in our great country.
Just as long as they do not say “Impeachement”. With all do respect sart doing something and stop talking.
October 16th, 2007 at 4:55 pmAll right, Nancy – if we can talk about anything, how about IMPEACHMENT???
October 16th, 2007 at 4:55 pmI like her coining ‘hate radio’.
I DO NOT like her table setting.
Rush calls her ‘Nazi Pelosi’…truly hate radio.
Nancy, we’re all waiting for you to do something you promised.
Drain the Swamp. Start with impeachment or inherent contempt.
Start anywhere. Just START!
October 16th, 2007 at 5:00 pmOctober 16th, 2007 at 5:01 pm
Ann gets hacked.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:02 pmHate Radio. Now that will get a LOT of attention, from all the Hate Radio jocks and jockettes.
But let’s do something really important and get on with the real issues here; stop the f’ing Iraq Clusterfu(k ….. N O W !!!
October 16th, 2007 at 5:04 pmDeferring to an impotent, incompetent, lameduck, dry-drunk AWOL in chief speaks volumes about her lack of leadership and cowardice. She sits on her hands biding her time too cowardly to make a stance expecting the throne to be brought to her and a Dem President.
You do not deserve it nor have you EARNED it.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:04 pm“Again, beneath the dignity of the debate but of course I would fight to the death for their right to say whatever they say in our great country.”
Pelosi continues, ” But I won’t fight for the Constitution and to keep my Oath of Office….. and oh, yeah, Impeachment is still off the table, George is not worth it.” =P
October 16th, 2007 at 5:05 pmAs crazy as it may sound we have more in common with the republican voters than we do our ‘leaders’ in DC. These beltway’leaders’ of both parties are corporate shills taking turns to whore for their respected masters and pimps.
Imagine if we could talk with republicans and get ALL of these bums thrown out.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:07 pmhey pelosi, shut the fu*k up.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:08 pmHate Radio, Hate Blogs, Hate Speech, Hate Thought, that’s what we expect from the ReighWingers, that is all they know, the 29%ers are wrong and they Hate the 71% of Americans that are right.
Now Nancy you can do what you need to do and Impeach the Divider and Darth Dick, the leaders of the Hate America Fascist Brownshirt Lockstep Lemming Pigs.
Buck Fush
October 16th, 2007 at 5:08 pmSpeaker Pelosi, the time for talk has ended. It is now time to act. If the Republicans wish to obstruct SCHIP, they do so at their own peril.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:09 pmEnding the war is my #1 priority. Impeachment won’t stop the war, won’t result in a conviction of Bush, and would only strengthen the GOP in upcoming elections. That’s why I think Pelosi and Reid are doing the right thing, smacking the GOP around on health care. It’s an issue most Americans care deeply about, and GOP members of Congress, if they want to keep their jobs, are gonna have to split with the White House on this. That’s a first, and it bodes well for the Dems’ effort to reign in Bush’s Iraq fiasco.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:09 pmYes, we know the righties don’t like Pelosi. Can we go back to talking about SCHIP now?
October 16th, 2007 at 5:11 pmKoko – impeachment may not stop the war, but it would certainly slow it down.
Bush, Cheney and their neocon crew are driving the ship of state directly onto the rocks, and it’s time for another captain to take the wheel. We may yet founder – but at least we’d have a fighting chance to avoid the crash.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:13 pmPolitically, opposing universal health care is a very stupid move on the part of the White House. I have to wonder why the rightwing demonizes universal health care when its favored by 60-70% of Americans.
Watching the GOP noise machine attack CHIP is like watching a zombie walk into a buzz saw.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:14 pmThat’s why I think Pelosi and Reid are doing the right thing
Comment by koko the talking gorilla — October 16, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
If they are not protecting the Constitution, upholding their Oaths of Office and enforcing Rule of Law, they are NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING.
PERIOD!!!
October 16th, 2007 at 5:16 pmThank You Nancy. Dealing firmly with right wing hate radio and their partners in the administration is a winning hand. Please DO IT MORE. They are on the ropes and you’d have the American people with you if you took on this administration more.
Thanks for standing up for Health Care. Keep going!
October 16th, 2007 at 5:21 pmLeftside Annie, I hope you know that I’d like to see Bush and Cheney tried for war crimes at The Hague. But I also think impeachment hearings would play to the GOP’s strengths, which are obstruction and diversion, and would unite the GOP when what we need to do to stop the war is divide the GOP.
1. Impeachment hearings won’t stop the war.
2. If the Dems impeach, they don’t have the votes to convict.
3. The strength of the Senate GOP is obstruction & diversion: hearings will degenerate into a sideshow.
4. American media will wallow in the sideshows, transforming the subject of the hearings from White House treason to trivialities: Hilllary’s haircut, Kennedy’s nose hairs, etc.
5. All other legislation would grind to a halt, including issues that Americans care deeply about: health care, environment, education.
6. Dems would be preoccupied with laying blame, instead of governing, which is what citizens want.
Impeachment will not succeed unless 17 Republican Senators support it. And so far the White House-GOP Senate bond has been unbreakable. That’s why I say Pelosi and Reid are doing a good thing, smacking the GOP around on health care: about 70% all Americans support universal health care, and it’s certain to force a split with the White House. That would be a first, and it would bode well for efforts to reign in Bush’s Iraq nightmare.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:22 pmThe point with impeachment is to put elected people on notice that we will watch their actions and deeds and remove them from office if necessary. As it is now, pelosi has created a situation where wrongdoing has no consequence, no penalty. Are we just waiting out the last months of W’s presidency? What about the next nutjob who steals an election? Are they going to stretch the boundaries of power too? Why would they hold back? History teaches them that there is no problem with breaking the law.
We were all brought up to honor boundaries and expected discipline if we crossed the line. Impeachment must be an option at any time for any politician who deserves it. America wants Congress to provide oversight. It is Pelosi and her fellow fraidy cats who don’t have the brains or stomach to stand up to bush and his henchmen. If there is no consequence for bad governance, then the bad governance will slowly become the norm.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:25 pmI think most of America understands that this is an incrimental attempt at socialized medicne
We already have functioning government mandated and funded health care members of Congress, for veterans, for the poor and the elderly, so all the screeching about “socialistic†medicine is just noise that serves only interests of the for-profit health insurance business.
Walter Reed being a good example of why we should not rely on the goverment for goverment health care.
Walter Reed was privatized, doughbrain. Democrats fought the privatization of Walter Reed, to no avail.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:25 pmWalter Reed being a good example of why we should not rely on the goverment for goverment health care.
NO! Walter Reed was (and is) a good example of the bush administrations incomentence and lack of support for the troops. Mr bush has literally screwed up everything he has touched while in office. It will not stop until he is gone to paraguay.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:27 pmUh, Southern man (sounds like a woman, but oh well) the problem was not Walter Reed Hospital, it was the PRIVATIZED rehab facilities that was the problem…GW666 PRIVATIZED IT and there by destroyed it. It is the FOR PROFIT MEDICAL CARE that is the problem.
Just thought you would like to know.
As much as I would like Nancy to Impeach GW666 and Darth Dick, she is doing the right thing for the country by outing the Repukian Scum for what they truely are.
Buck Fush
October 16th, 2007 at 5:31 pmComment by Southern Man
I think most of America understands that this is an incrimental attempt at socialized medicne.
And most of America is in favor of it.
Walter Reed being a good example of why we should not rely on the goverment for goverment health care.
Wrong conclusion. Walter Read is a good example of why we should not rely on REPUBLICAN government for good healthcare.
I love how conservatives claim that “government doesn’t work” and then they get into office and prove it. Isn’t putting the people who believe “government doesn’t work” in charge of the government a recipe for disaster?
Oops — Mission Accomplished!
October 16th, 2007 at 5:31 pmIf I remember right, a bunch of Deomocratic Senators voted for this war, as well as former Presdident Clinton clammoring for it.
Comment by Southern Man
Excuse me….Clinton was clamoring for invading Iraq. You, Loon, are truly delusional. Also, you might be taken a little more seriously if you didn’t have three spelling errors in one sentence.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:33 pmIf I remember right, a bunch of Deomocratic Senators voted for this war, as well as former Presdident Clinton clammoring for it.
Comment by Southern Man — October 16, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
Under false pretenses, and, all but Hil have admitted it was a mistake, something your shining leader, Codpiece Commander Guy, never will.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:33 pmWalter Reed was a mess years before Bush was in office. You can’t blame everything on Bush.
Comment by Southern Man
Prove it or STFU!
October 16th, 2007 at 5:33 pmIf I remember right, a bunch of Deomocratic Senators voted for this war, as well as former Presdident Clinton clammoring for it.
Comment by Southern Man — October 16, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
At least as far as former President Clinton goes, you remember wrongly.
Unless, that is, you have a different definition of “clammoring” than I.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:34 pmWalter Reed was a mess years before Bush was in office. You can’t blame everything on Bush.
Comment by Southern Man
When Mr Bush invaded the soverign nation of Iraq he pushed an already overburdened system to the brink of collapse. If he had thought out his invasion follies, he would have known that casualties needed to be treated and taken care of. because he did the whole thing “on the cheap”, the system failed. Who could have anticipated the need for more medical facilities? Anybody with a functioning brain – that’s who, and that of course leaves out the bush administration.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:37 pmBut I also think impeachment hearings would play to the GOP’s strengths, which are obstruction and diversion, and would unite the GOP when what we need to do to stop the war is divide the GOP.
I totally disagree with you. The only way we can stop the obstruction is by impeaching. Once Bush is under Articles of Impeachment he will no longer be able to use Executive Privilege to refuse to cooperate and he will not be able to tell his minions to ignore subpoenas. The only way we will ever get to the core of all the crimes this man has committed will be through impeachment.
Not to mention the fact that if we don’t impeach, we are telling the people in our country and around the world that we no longer care about the rule of law. That is not a country I want to live in, a country that no longer cares about the rule of law.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:37 pmWalter Reed was a mess years before Bush was in office. You can’t blame everything on Bush.
Comment by Southern Man
Even if this were true, how many years does Bush have to be in office before he can be fairly blamed for not seeing that the soldiers who fight his war-of-choice are well taken care of after they’ve been wounded?
October 16th, 2007 at 5:37 pmHow are we going to pay for this new goverment health care? Smokers?
Comment by Southern Man
By not spending a billion or so a week in Iraq; and not lowering the tax rates of millionaires. Another simple answer to a simple question.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:39 pmbecause he did the whole thing “on the cheapâ€, the system failed. Who could have anticipated the need for more medical facilities? Anybody with a functioning brain – that’s who, and that of course leaves out the bush administration.
Comment by StratRat
That’s part of the problem. But the main problem at Walter Reed was that they privatized the maintenance of the buildings, which was NOT cheaper than maintaining them with government workers. Because the private business was trying to increase their profit margin, they cut corners on their maintenance and that led to the deplorable conditions at Walter Reed.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:40 pmThe postal service is a good example of not relying on the goverment for the best service. UPS and Federal Express are good examples of private companies giving the best service at affordable prices.
How are we going to pay for this new goverment health care? Smokers?
Comment by Southern Man — October 16, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
Nice try, but neither FedEx nor UPS can deliver a standard letter for anything near 41 cents.
And why are righties so concerned about how we’re going to pay for healthcare? You weren’t so concerned about how we’re going to pay for Bush’s War. — Oh, that’s right — I keep fporgetting — Our grandkids have offered to pick up the tab for the war.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:40 pmThey voted for the war because they thought they could TRUST the President, that his word was WORTHWHILE, that he was telling the nation the TRUTH.
I was first in favor of the war, too, based on the info I was given. Just to later figure out that it was all lies? How could we conceive that the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES was telling lies to his people, manipulating the system, and starting a war that only a few were interested in (because they would make money – as they are still making).
Pointing fingers to those who voted for the war is just stupid. They did RIGHT based on the info to given to the nation by the Administration. They ARE NOT at fault. The ADMINISTRATION IS!!!
October 16th, 2007 at 5:42 pmPublic school education I’m afraid to admit. I guess you have to be able to spell in order to think. Another reason to not trust the goverment: I can’t spell with my public school education. FU
Comment by Southern Man — October 16, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
Another reason not to trust right-wingers. I went to public school, too. And I know how to spell, punctuate and proofread before posting. Just like a righty to blame his own shortcomings on someone else.
No one said you have to be able to spell in order to think. It just reflects better on you in the eyes of others if you can express yourself with clarity and precision.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:44 pmBecause the private business was trying to increase their profit margin, they cut corners on their maintenance and that led to the deplorable conditions at Walter Reed.
Comment by bilbobaggins
Agreed. Some things should remain sacred, like the care and treatment of our brave soldiers. Profits should not be allowed in the equation when it comes to healthcare for the armed forces. Mr Bush does like to outsource vital services – like torture.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:45 pmAnother reason to not trust the goverment: I can’t spell with my public school education.
So did I. When I make spelling errors, I don’t blame the government. I take personal responsibilty for my mistakes. Not like you.
GOP= “party of personal responsibility”? I don’t think so. More like the party of “waaaah not my fault! I blame the government for everything under the sun!”
October 16th, 2007 at 5:48 pmHow are we going to pay for this new goverment health care? Smokers?
Comment by Southern Man
By extending Medicare to all Americans. Dennis Kucinich hired experts who have shown that we can insure all the people in the US for approximately 1/3 what it costs to insure the people who have insurance through private carriers. So we will be paying less for our health insurance and be getting better benefits because Medicare doesn’t have a “for profit” employee sitting there making life and death decisions as to what health care you can have. And, Kucinich’s numbers factor in raising the amount doctors and hospitals are paid. Bush has been starving the doctors and hospitals trying to kill Medicare. There are very few doctors today who will take Medicare patients because Bush has cut their fees to practically nothing.
And, you know, I won’t mind having to wait a few months for elective surgery if it means that every man, woman and child in this country gets their basic right to be healthy.
I am ashamed to live in a country that considers health care to be a privilege and not a right.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:49 pmWhen you admit that Bill Clinton did not adhere to the rule of law, I will take you seriously.
Comment by Southern Man
Any, and I mean any, challenge comparing Clintons issues with the abject failures of the Bush administration is laughable at best. Insanely delusional at worst. A BJ brought impeachment, but lying to the planet about the war, WMD’s, torture, spying, corruption, secrecy, Katrina, etc…should be out of reach? Is that what you are telling us here at TP?
October 16th, 2007 at 5:50 pmThe exact same inteligence was given to Bill Clinton before Bush was in office. You people have selective memories.
Comment by Southern Man — October 16, 2007 @ 5:46 pm
And based on that intelligence, who decided to invade Iraq and who decided against it?
October 16th, 2007 at 5:53 pmThe exact same inteligence was given to Bill Clinton before Bush was in office. You people have selective memories.
Comment by Southern Man
And you know this? No you don’t. Limbaugh said so and you believe him. coulter says so and you believe him/her/whatever. hannity says this and you believe him. Typing words into a computer keyboard is rather simple, expressing your views with clarity and facts is difficult. You need to look elsewhere for those who believe your words – it is not at TP. maybe powerline or hot air will work as they don’t need any facts – just somebody to hate. Please stop trying to blame things on a president who hasn’t been in office for over 6 years. You are making yourself appear foolish.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:56 pmDemocrats were in charge of our education system when I was going to school. Not blaming anyone, just saying. It is what it is. And I could care less about “the eyes of othersâ€. I’m glad your perfect! If we could all be like you, the world would truly be a better place!
Comment by Southern Man — October 16, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
“Not blaming anyone”? Whose fault is it that you spell poorly?
The fact that you “could care less about the eyes of others” in one statement sums up the futility you face when trying to communicate effectively here, and the philosophy of the conservative movement at the same time.
And I never said I was “perfect”. I said I can spell and proofread. Jeez, you can’t even build a straw man worth crap.
October 16th, 2007 at 5:56 pmYou still don’t admit that Bill did not adhere to the rule of law! Come on now. Why didn’t ALL Supreme Court Justices attend his last State of the Union Address? Because he lied to congress and did not obey the rule of law. Forget Bush! I’m talking Clinton. Answer please.
Comment by Southern Man — October 16, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
Wow. A “Rule of Law” conservative! This is a rare sighting these days. I thought those critters had become extinct once Scooter Libby got convicted!
What do you make of Bush following the “Rule of Law” when he authorized the wiretapping of Americans without warrants? Is that as big a transgression of the “Rule of Law” as Clinton lying about a blowjob?
It’s clear that you don’t want to talk about Bush — what right-winger does, these days? You’d rather live in the past and go as far off-topic as you can.
October 16th, 2007 at 6:03 pmThe exact same inteligence was given to Bill Clinton before Bush was in office. You people have selective memories.
Comment by Southern Man
No, you make things up. Curveball was not being paid for by Clinton. He was Bush’s personal liar. And much of what the Bushies used to justify going to war came from the lying drunk Curveball.
October 16th, 2007 at 6:06 pmThe exact same inteligence was given to Bill Clinton before Bush was in office.
Liar. It wasn’t Clinton who received an August 6, 2001 memo entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.†which mentioned OBL’s desire and capability to strike the US using hijacked airplanes, and cavalierly dismissed his briefer with the words “All right, you’ve covered your ass now.â€
October 16th, 2007 at 6:15 pmsouthern man, honestly get a grip. You want to debate what intelligence before going into Iraq? How about the complete cluster since then? Too few troops, no plan, being loyal to Bush was the priority and not experience, no proper funding, insufficient armor, no bid contracts that have run amok, Mercs getting paid 3 times the amount of our troops.
All on Bush’ head.
You are following a fool. and it shows.
October 16th, 2007 at 6:17 pmGod it must be difficult to hang onto ‘dear leaders’ ever vanishing clothing. Mark my words: As mr bush’s rating go to the 10-15% range in 6-10 months, the right side will get even more shrill and nasty for they have nothing else to work with. When they speak, people know they are lying. When they state a fact, people know it is not true. How pathetic does a person have to be to continue to support this administration? Just what would it take for them to finally realize thay have been had? After a while you would think even the most stubborn and desperate followers have to know they are being played for fools. How out of touch does a person have to be to not realize this? It boggles the mind.
October 16th, 2007 at 6:24 pmHow pathetic does a person have to be to continue to support this administration? Just what would it take for them to finally realize thay have been had? After a while you would think even the most stubborn and desperate followers have to know they are being played for fools. How out of touch does a person have to be to not realize this? It boggles the mind.
Comment by StratRat — October 16, 2007 @ 6:24 pm
My sentiments exactly! I have a few Repug friends and when ANY political discussion comes up, they just circle their wagons tighter and spew a few of the latest talking points but will never look me in the eye and tell me what it is they are still defending in the Codpiece Commander guy.
Southern Man must be in the same stage of denial.
October 16th, 2007 at 6:31 pmSouthern Man: Never let cousins marry.
October 16th, 2007 at 6:45 pmSouthern Manchild: So bush is only loved by 30 per cent of Americans and Bill Clinton is loved by 65 per cent. Frustrated much?
October 16th, 2007 at 6:46 pmPublic school education I’m afraid to admit. I guess you have to be able to spell in order to think. Another reason to not trust the goverment: I can’t spell with my public school education. FU
Comment by Southern Man — October 16, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
As with all righties, it’s always someone else’s fault.
October 16th, 2007 at 6:51 pmProfits should not be allowed in the equation when it comes to healthcare for the armed forces.
Comment by StratRat
Profits should not be allowed in the equation when it comes to health care for anyone. Health care should be a right and not a privilege. It does not speak well of our country that we think it is OK for people to not have health care coverage.
October 16th, 2007 at 6:52 pmHealth care should be a right and not a privilege. It does not speak well of our country that we think it is OK for people to not have health care coverage.
Comment by bilbobaggins — October 16, 2007 @ 6:52 pm
And, we are the last of the Industrialized nations without some sort of universal program in place.
October 16th, 2007 at 6:57 pmMe thinks Southern boy took his bloodied ego and slithered back home.
October 16th, 2007 at 6:58 pmI can’t spell with my public school education. FU
Comment by Southern Man — October 16, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
No, you cannot spell because you were too lazy to learn how.
October 16th, 2007 at 7:02 pmProfits should not be allowed in the equation when it comes to health care for anyone. Health care should be a right and not a privilege. It does not speak well of our country that we think it is OK for people to not have health care coverage.
Comment by bilbobaggins — October 16, 2007 @ 6:52 pm
bilbobaggins, I agree with you, and here’s why: the key controlling element in the free market is consumer choice. The market is free to purchase one product or a similar product from a competing provider. The portability of the consumer’s ability to choose is theoretically what keeps goods providers sriving to produce the best product at the most appealing price.
This dynamic completely falls apart when it comes to insuring health care. An insurance company sees more profit when they provide less service. The force that would otherwise hold this dynamic in check — customer choice — does not exist. One cannot simply drop one insurance provider and pick up another if the first is unsatisfactory. For one thing, it takes months for new coverage to be activated. For another, if the first company has failed to cover an illness or ailment, then getting replacement coverage is likely to be very difficult and very expensive due to the “pre-existing conditions” concept.
Add to that the incentive for pharmaceutical companies to sell drugs and of clinics and hospitals to bill for services, and there is virtually no incentive for insurance companies to keep costs down, except for when it comes to paying out benefits.
It’s a rigged game.
October 16th, 2007 at 7:04 pmFrom what I understand, much was said about the parents and their ability to pay for health insurance had they chosen to do so. The expansion of the SCHIP program was also attacked specially the provisions that would cover 25 year olds and those whose income is 3 times the poverty level.
October 16th, 2007 at 7:06 pmWhat exactly did was said about the boy? Can anyone show a link to a direct quote from any of the conservative radio programs that attacks the boy?
From what I understand, much was said about the parents and their ability to pay for health insurance had they chosen to do so. The expansion of the SCHIP program was also attacked specially the provisions that would cover 25 year olds and those whose income is 3 times the poverty level.
What exactly did was said about the boy? Can anyone show a link to a direct quote from any of the conservative radio programs that attacks the boy?
Comment by RightOfAttila
They attacked him indirectly through his family. Most of what the right was saying about the Frost family was simply untrue. They were distorting the facts to suit their purposes. And the 25 year age was for college students living at home. Since states bring people into the program from the bottom up, there is very little chance that any 25 year old would ever get insured much less a family making 83,000 a year (which only applies to states like New York and New Jersey with very high cost of living). Also, you make it sound like any 25 year old who makes 3 times the poverty level would qualify and that’s a lie. It is the family that is supporting the 25 year old student who’s income is judged, not the student.
October 16th, 2007 at 8:35 pmTwo days late and a dollar short, Nancy.
October 16th, 2007 at 10:32 pmHate radio or the drive-by media, take your pick people. I prefer the drive-bies. Hehehe.
October 17th, 2007 at 5:03 amI’ve been calling it hate radio for years…
October 17th, 2007 at 8:57 ami kind of like her in this showing. first time i havnt yelled at my monitor with her face on it in awhile
October 17th, 2007 at 11:19 amHate radio, Nancy? Why not call a spade a spade and quit dancing around the problem. It is republicans who are responsible. Republicans, not hate radio. Republicans.
October 17th, 2007 at 6:09 pm