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ThinkFast: October 16, 2007

By Think Progress on Oct 16th, 2007 at 9:00 am

ThinkFast: October 16, 2007»


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During his townhall meeting in Arkansas yesterday, “not a single questioner criticized” President Bush. With polls showing Bush’s disapproval at record highs, the White House is staging “let-Bush-be-Bush events” in front of “friendly audiences” with “increasing frequency.”

Verizon Communications told congressional investigators that, from January 2005 to September 2007, the company provided customers’ telephone records to federal authorities on an emergency basis 720 times. “Verizon also disclosed that the FBI, using administrative subpoenas, sought information identifying not just a person making a call, but all the people that customer called, as well as the people those people called.”

Air America radio host Randi Rhodes was mugged not mugged on Sunday night while walking her dog nearby her Manhattan apartment. “According to Air America Radio late night host Jon Elliott, Rhodes was beaten up pretty badly, losing several teeth and will probably be off the air for at least the rest of the week.”

The House Judiciary Committee is holding a hearing today on the Jena Six case, with Rev. Al Sharpton and others testifying. Panelists will urge Congress to “expand hate crime laws to deal more forcefully with noose-hanging incidents like the one in the Jena Six case in order to squelch what he called a sharp rise in racism.”

Fearing his re-election chances are dim, the House GOP leadership “has held private discussions with Rep. John Doolittle (R-CA) in an effort to convince him to retire.” But Doolittle, who is under federal investigation, is “promising to run for re-election.”

“For the first time in more than 100 years, much of the Southeast has reached the most severe category of drought, climatologists said Monday, creating an emergency so serious that some cities are just months away from running out of water.

Oil thundered towards $88 a barrel on Tuesday, hitting a new record and extending a rally that has added eight dollars in a week on tight supplies, strong demand and tension in northern Iraq. Oil is closing in on the inflation-adjusted high of $90.46 seen in 1980, the year after the Iranian revolution and at the start of the Iran-Iraq war.”

$15 billion: Amount seniors and other taxpayers could have saved this year if the government had “slashed administrative costs in the Medicare drug program and negotiated the same kind of discounts it does for poor people under Medicaid.”

And finally: While many Capitol Hill offices “proudly display their home-state” sports teams’ gear, the walls of Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones’s (D-OH) office are blank. They’re hoping for the Cleveland Indians to go all the way, and remember the loss of the Cleveland Cavaliers in last season’s NBA playoffs when their walls were decorated. “In the past it’s been a jinx,” spokeswoman Nicole Williams said. “We are diehard fans. We hope the Indians go all the way, and then we’ll celebrate.”

What did we miss? Let us know in the comments section.




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176 Responses to “ThinkFast: October 16, 2007”

  1. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    During his townhall meeting in Arkansas yesterday, “not a single questioner criticized” President Bush. With polls showing Bush’s disapproval at record highs, the White House is staging “let-Bush-be-Bush events” in front of “friendly audiences” with “increasing frequency.”

    This has always been the modus operandi of the White House Ministry of Truth. Nobody is fooled by these sham “public appearances” anymore.


  2. cavjam Says:

    During his townhall meeting in Arkansas yesterday, “not a single questioner criticized” President Bush.

    Where was this? A coma ward?


  3. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    “For the first time in more than 100 years, much of the Southeast has reached the most severe category of drought, climatologists said Monday, creating an emergency so serious that some cities are just months away from running out of water.”

    If you think the oil wars are scary, wait until you see the water wars…


  4. bilbobaggins Says:

    “Verizon also disclosed that the FBI, using administrative subpoenas, sought information identifying not just a person making a call, but all the people that customer called, as well as the people those people called.”

    The scenario I heard Jonathan Turley give Keith Olberman last night is, you make a phone call and it is a wrong number. But, the number you called is a “person of interest” to our government. Based on that wrong number, our government using the administrative subpoenas, can get our phone records, financial records, medical records, just about anything they want. So, to all the people who say “I’ve done nothing wrong, therefore my government will never spy on me”, you might want to rethink that.


  5. whiteyfresh Says:

    Air America radio host Randi Rhodes was mugged on Sunday night while walking her dog nearby her Manhattan apartment. “According to Air America Radio late night host Jon Elliott, Rhodes was beaten up pretty badly, losing several teeth and will probably be off the air for at least the rest of the week.”

    How much you wanna bet it was an O’Reilly listener(or a deranged idiot-there’s really not much difference..)

    :)


  6. bilbobaggins Says:

    Air America radio host Randi Rhodes was mugged on Sunday night while walking her dog nearby her Manhattan apartment.

    OMG - my best wishes to you Randi. If you have never listened to Randi’s radio program, please do. She is the most intelligent and hard hitting talk show host on progressive radio. She can sometimes be rather shrill, but everything she says makes sense and she generally has the facts to back up what she says.


  7. missmolly Says:

    During his townhall meeting in Arkansas yesterday, “not a single questioner criticized” President Bush. With polls showing Bush’s disapproval at record highs, the White House is staging “let-Bush-be-Bush events” in front of “friendly audiences” with “increasing frequency.”

    ————————–

    More events where you have to sign a loyalty oath to get in, I presume. If Bush really needs a friendly audience to prop him up, can we just send him back to Albania?


  8. Candyce Says:

    Cripes, I wondered why Lionel was covering Randi’s show yesterday. I read the link to the story - very unsettling.

    Jon Elliot: Pointing out that Rhodes was wearing a jogging suit and displayed no purse or jewelry, Elliott speculated that “this does not appear to me to be a standard grab the money and run mugging.”

    Thom Hartmann found bullet holes in his car recently.

    We may have another freeper nut on the loose.


  9. whiteyfresh Says:

    duuuuuuuuuuuuude that really sucks.Randi is awesome, and no one deserved to have that happen

    :(


  10. Dumb_Fox Says:

    Bobo Brooks column today was a tear-jerker:

    http://www.nytimes.com/ 2007/ 10/ 16/ opinion/ 16brooks.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin

    Coup de grace:

    “It’s not as rewarding being in the minority, she [Deborah Pryce] says, and with the new, longer workweek, it’s harder to get home to her adopted daughter.”


  11. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    >If you think the oil wars are scary, wait until you see the water wars…

    Pentagon says climate change more a threat to security than terrorism
    http://observer.guardian.co.uk/ international/ story/ 0,6903,1153513,00.html

    > you make a phone call and it is a wrong number. But, the number you >called is a “person of interest” to our government
    > So, to all the people who say
    > “I’ve done nothing wrong, therefore
    > my government will never spy on me”,

    yikes, if Bigfoot is as bad with numbers as he is with letters, hes in trouble..
    … i’ll bet playing this “6 degrees of accidentally dialing a person of interest” game could get to about every person in this country..


  12. grover nerdkissed Says:

    all my sympathies for Randi Rhodes


  13. Wilco Says:

    If you think the oil wars are scary, wait until you see the water wars…

    Comment by TripMaster Monkey

    I have seen the future, and it is called “Ice Pirates.”


  14. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    bilbobaggins sez:

    So, to all the people who say “I’ve done nothing wrong, therefore my government will never spy on me”, you might want to rethink that.

    Heh…one good point to make to any troll that tries to spout that nonsense is that they are “persons of interest”, merely by posting on a progressive blog, known to be frequented by dirty fscking hippies, malcontents, and other assorted ne’er-do-wells. ^_^


  15. bilbobaggins Says:

    Fearing his re-election chances are dim, the House GOP leadership “has held private discussions with Rep. John Doolittle (R-CA) in an effort to convince him to retire.” But Doolittle, who is under federal investigation, is “promising to run for re-election.”

    Run Doolittle run! He should be very easy to beat. The American public has had it’s fill of corrupt politicians and they have had their fill of Republicans. That’s a double whammy for Doolittle.


  16. whiteyfresh Says:

    Anonamous sure spouts a lot of PURE CRAP in the comments thread of the linked story about Randi. I wonder why anyone would pick anonamous as a handle..

    Oh, wait…


  17. whiteyfresh Says:

    I have seen the future, and it is called “Ice Pirates.”

    wasn’t that a video game?


  18. whiteyfresh Says:

    the Republicans cave a similar movie/vidoe game:”Butt Pirates”


  19. Wilco Says:

    whiteyfresh, I’m referring to the movie starring Robert Urich. It’s a B-movie classic from the eighties, with robots, swashbuckling and headless hilarity!


  20. bilbobaggins Says:

    How much you wanna bet it was an O’Reilly listener(or a deranged idiot-there’s really not much difference..)
    Comment by whiteyfresh

    Considering the fact that she was apparently not mugged for valuables, I think this may just be a possible scenario. If they think this may stop Randi, they have another thought coming. That lady is tough and she’s gonna be really pissed!

    I really fear what is going to happen to our country when the Republicans are finally put in their place. I fear we are going to see a lot of violent incidents because these people are going to be looking for a way to vent their frustrations and with encouragement by the likes of Billo, Hannity and Malkin, it could get ugly.


  21. BearCountry Says:

    I suspect that the Thom Hartman and Randi Rhodes incidents are not unrelated. The wackos realize that they are under pressure and are reacting in the only way they know how. Facts and reality are simply things that need to be beaten out of the way. I suspect and hope that she will recover quickly and not be subjected to PTSD. Maybe some of her listeners who live nearby could be her walking buddies.


  22. Zimzone Says:

    During his townhall meeting in Arkansas yesterday, “not a single questioner criticized” President Bush…

    Ahhhh, VV’s ’super secret selected citizen scenario’. It’s the only way this idiot dares to speak outside the WH anymore.

    Something is drastically wrong with America when a President has to hand pick his audience for a public event. Very wrong. Bush is a wimp; all hat and no horse. (In fact, as Vincente Fox pointed out, Bush is afraid of horses. How about that? A cowboy afraid of horses. Or is it just female horses?)


  23. bilbobaggins Says:

    $15 billion: Amount seniors and other taxpayers could have saved this year if the government had “slashed administrative costs in the Medicare drug program and negotiated the same kind of discounts it does for poor people under Medicaid.”

    But, those poor pharmaceutical companies need that money. If you took the amount of corporate welfare out there and compared it to our social welfare, corporate welfare would win hands down. And then there are all those corporations doing business in the USA but incorporated in the Caymen Islands so they don’t pay US Income taxes. Another form of corporate welfare. This is why we need a president who is not beholden to the corporations.


  24. Kay Says:

    During his townhall meeting in Arkansas yesterday, “not a single questioner criticized” President Bush. With polls showing Bush’s disapproval at record highs, the White House is staging “let-Bush-be-Bush events” in front of “friendly audiences” with “increasing frequency.”

    Oops. Just lost my breakfast.


  25. bilbobaggins Says:

    Stephanie Tubbs Jones’s (R-OH)

    Ok TP, you have done it again. Unless she recently switched parties, Stephanie Tubbs Jones is a Democrat.

    I wonder why TP keeps doing this?


  26. Zimzone Says:

    And then there are all those corporations doing business in the USA but incorporated in the Caymen Islands so they don’t pay US Income taxes. Another form of corporate welfare. -Bilbobaggins

    Amen, Bilbo, amen. I’d like to see a list of all corporations claiming to be American, but using an offshore address to avoid paying taxes.

    THAT IS NOT AMERICAN!

    We need to cut corporate welfare, desist granting no-bids to offshore entities and ignoring corporate tax liabilities as ‘unimportant’. Doesn’t Blackwater now claim Dubai as it’s ‘home’? This would be an example of a company that should not qualify for contracts.

    One more thing. The 9 Billion Bush is pissing & moaning about in regard to SCHIP…isn’t that the same amount lost in Iraq that we don’t even know where it is?!


  27. VerbalKint Says:

    So Bush the little coward needs to be cheered up by the 28%ers. Let him keep living inside the bubble. It is going to burst all the more spectacularly when he leaves office.


  28. Candyce Says:

    Other news: 12 former Army captains write another op-ed.

    While our generals pursue a strategy dependent on peace breaking out, the Iraqis prepare for their war — and our servicemen and women, and their families, continue to suffer.

    America, it has been five years. It’s time to make a choice.


  29. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    Rhodes was probably beaten up by some nutball in the Mallkin Mongoloid Mafia… thats the type of viscous rabid people they are.. Malkin herself has probably violated some RICO statutes with her campaign of stalking and intimidation…

    http://www.latimes.com/ news/ nationworld/ nation/ la-na-blackwater15oct15,1,3807196.story?coll=la-headlines-nation

    more concerns here Blackwater are unlawful combatants. Actually, according the united states own definition of unlawful combatants they ARE without question.


  30. bilbobaggins Says:

    Doesn’t Blackwater now claim Dubai as it’s ‘home’? This would be an example of a company that should not qualify for contracts.

    This is the reason why John Kerry voted against the first funding request for Iraq. He and other Democrats wanted to insert a clause that said no military contract could go to a company that was not incorporated in the United States. Of course the Republicans were against that and got it taken out of the appropriation bill.

    So we have no-bid contractors making billions off of the war, incorporated outside the US and not paying taxes on their profits. This gives the term “war profiteers” a whole new spin.


  31. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    During his townhall meeting in Arkansas yesterday, “not a single questioner criticized” President Bush.

    Hell, the way the Reich-wing went after a 12 year-old and his family, who can blame anybody for keeping silent?

    What the Reich-wing fails to realize is that when you silence the opposition, the opposition does not go away, it goes underground.


  32. Wilco Says:

    bilbo, nice catch!
    I missed that and she’s my rep!


  33. missmolly Says:

    From article: “Apparently, some right-wing critics of lib talk aren’t happy that conservative talk only accounts for 90% of the programming on talk radio. These whack jobs appear determined to whatever it takes to silence the opposing point of view.

    Not surprisingly, the only talk radio host killed for his political views was a liberal. In 1984, two right wing extremists gunned down Denver talk show host Alan Berg. Berg’s tragic murder was memorialized in a chilling movie Talk Radio.”

    —————————————

    What are they saying here? That one of the reasons why conservative talk radio outweighs liberal talk radio in this country is because there are right-wing extremists who won’t hesitate to injure or kill the opposition but there are no left-wing extremists who will do so?

    There’s gotta be a reason why people who say extremely hateful things to a large audience (Limbaugh, Coulter, Malkin, Boorz, Beck, Savage, O’Reilly, Hannity, et al) walk around unmolested by nutcases. And I think it’s that they tend to p!ss off those who believe in non-violence.

    Well — maybe not completely. I think Ann Coulter got a pie in her face once.


  34. bilbobaggins Says:

    So Bush the little coward needs to be cheered up by the 28%ers. Let him keep living inside the bubble. It is going to burst all the more spectacularly when he leaves office.
    Comment by VerbalKint

    Have you heard this man speak lately? I heard Bush on the radio yesterday and he sounded completely drunk. His speech was slurred and his pauses between words was much longer than usual. It made me cringe listening to him not to mention ashamed that this man is the leader of this once proud country.


  35. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    what happened to Hartmann? didnt hear about this..


  36. katy Says:

    oh no! randi!!!
    jeez… i waited for her show yesterday, working outside, and when that jerk lionel came on instead, i hollared loudly, “nooooooooo!”…
    he made no mention of what had happened to her…

    and that link crashed my browser, btw…

    get well soon, randi! will miss you terribly!
    .


  37. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    >During his townhall meeting in Arkansas yesterday, “not a single >questioner criticized” President Bush…

    If anyone wonders why they never put this guy out in a forum with non-softball questions and actual debate, see his performance in his first debate
    with kerry… thats bush, thier “brave” leader, when under real pressure.. stammering, stuttering..sounding like a complete nincompoop..the type of guy Bigfoot can relate to…even the worst of the kool-aid commandos have to admit that bush fell flat on his face in that debate…


  38. Wilco Says:

    What in the flying crap does Al Sharpton have to do with the Jena Six case?


  39. Candyce Says:

    Remember that freeper who sent anthrax threats to Letterman, Olbermann, Pelosi and a few others.

    And this “mugger” went for her mouth, knocking her teeth out. The tool of her trade, so to speak, the sure way to symbolically silence her. I don’t like this at all.


  40. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    yep coulter has been pied before.. not sure if it hit.. dont think it did, sadly..
    im in full support of drive by “pie-ings”. for what its worth, cupcakes with lots of frosting make better aiming…

    http://www.bradblog.com/Images/CoulterPie.jpg


  41. missmolly Says:

    “For the first time in more than 100 years, much of the Southeast has reached the most severe category of drought, climatologists said Monday, creating an emergency so serious that some cities are just months away from running out of water.”

    —————————————-

    So glad some attention is being paid to this. I live in one of the cities that’s “just months away from running out of water.” Taking navy showers, recycling water, and letting lawns and plants die is our way of life now.

    Who would have thought that we’d be PRAYING for tropical storms?

    The climatic changes on this earth are starting to affect us in profound ways. It could be your city next year. It’s something we all need to worry about.


  42. Joneser Says:

    39

    Ahh the conspiracy continues. Let me inject one while we are at it.

    I am sure this person that mugged Rhodes, probably has a a nice wrap sheet but was let loose due to “good behavior” and a liberal judge who claimed his civil rights were violated cause the officer accidently pumped his head putting him in the squad car after being arrested for the same crime a few months prior.


  43. bilbobaggins Says:

    I read some of the comments about Randi on the linked article. Boy those people are hateful. Sure there are muggings in NY every day, but I bet there aren’t any that are for no apparent reason, which seems to be the case with Randi. This is unrelated, but I wonder what kind of a dog she has since it doesn’t sound like the dog did much to protect her. Maybe she needs to trade that dog in for a Rotweiller. My daughter recently got a Great Dane. I asked her why in the world she wanted a dog that big. Her answer was, when I walk with him, no one looks twice at me thinking they can mug me. The funny thing is, her dog is the biggest wimp in the world!


  44. bilbobaggins Says:

    Comment by Joneser

    Go away loon, no one here is interested in anything you have to say.


  45. Joneser Says:

    38

    Don’t you know? Al Sharpton has everything to do with the Jena 6, lol. You can’t have a bon fire without more gasoline! Stepping back, Al Sharpton has to be one of the greatest of all time, a role model of sorts. He is absolutely amazing and talented.


  46. APEC not OPEC Says:

    What are those sheeple behind Bush smiling about?


  47. celtic cynic Says:

    Does the top line of the banner behind Dear Leader read “AVOID”?


  48. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    Joneser sez:

    Ahh the conspiracy continues. Let me inject one while we are at it.

    Given the fact that Randi was wearing a jogging suit at the time of the attack, was carrying no purse, and had no jewelry showing, how do you explain this violent assault? Perhaps the assailant just doesn’t like dog owners?

    It’s not like liberal talk show hosts have never been targeted by violent right-wing nutballs in the past…it’s actually all too common.


  49. Candyce Says:

    yeah, cuz it’s not like some right wing loon hasn’t targeted progressive or liberal media types in the past.


  50. Exley Says:

    “What did we miss? Let us know in the comments section.”

    Some more reasons to be optimistic:

    Al Qaeda in Iraq terror group is on the wane, say experts

    BY JAMES GORDON MEEK
    DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

    Tuesday, October 16th 2007, 4:00 AM

    WASHINGTON - Al Qaeda in Iraq, once the war’s most bloodthirsty and lethal insurgent group, is badly damaged and being forced to fend off both the U.S. and former Sunni allies, intelligence experts said Monday.

    But military and counterterror officials say it’s premature to declare victory over the group that pledged loyalty to Osama Bin Laden long after its murder spree began in the summer of 2003.

    “Al Qaeda in Iraq has been dealt harsh blows in the past and bounced back,” a defense intelligence official warned. “Don’t count them out.” …

    Evan Kohlmann, a government consultant who painstakingly tracks Iraq’s diverse insurgency, said the Al Qaeda franchise there - now led by an Egyptian - has indeed “reached a crisis point.”

    “To say their backs are broken is not right. They do have their backs against the wall,” Kohlmann said.

    “Clearly there are some positive trends,” agreed a U.S. counterterrorism official.

    FULL ARTICLE:
    http://www.nydailynews.com/ news/ wn_report/ 2007/ 10/ 16/ 2007-10-16_al_qaeda_in_iraq_terror_group_is_on_the_.html


  51. Joneser Says:

    43,

    I do beleive she has a Shitzu. She had it on that Showtime documentary about snAIR America.

    Did you say muggings don’t happen for no apparent reason? Ask those two old women in New York earlier this year, who were beaten up, and I’m the loon?

    45,

    No they wouldn’t, they would be applauding. Civility was replaced with conspiracy.


  52. bilbobaggins Says:

    It’s not like non-politically motivated muggings don’t happen in New York, is it? If Hanity were mugged while out jogging, would you assume it was a TP blogger, or a member of MoveOn?
    Comment by TCDon

    Yes, muggings often happen in NY. But how many of them are people with no apparent valuables? And why did they bash her in the face, specifically in the mouth. I don’t know if her mugging was politically motivated or not, but I do believe it’s quite likely. With the likes of the hate mongers Billo, Malkin and Hannity inciting their rabid crowd, it’s just a matter of time before these kind of things start to happen more frequently. Also, explain the bullet holes in Thom Hartmann’s car. He lives in Portland, not exactly the violent crime capital of the world.


  53. Wayne Says:

    Comment by Exley — October 16, 2007 @ 10:03 am

    While the original Al Qaeda that existed before the idiotic invasion of Iraq is still in Afghanistan and raising hell.

    Exley, wake up to the fact that Al Qaeda in Iraq was less than 3% of the resistance the US has been fighting and Al Qaeda was not in Iraq before we invaded.


  54. Marie Says:

    Ah, yes, the boy-king must be protected from all unpleasantries. His minions provide him with props in the form of supporters, their children, uniformed military, whatever is called for — all so his speaking engagements keep up the facade of an “adoring public” which his ego so dearly requires in daily doses. The boy-king cannot and should not have to tolerate challenging questions from his public; such questions put him in a negative frame of mind - unbecoming an emperor — even an emperor who has no clothes.


  55. pbg Says:

    Jonesy, isn’t this in the town Giuliani tamed?


  56. Zimzone Says:

    The funny thing is, her dog is the biggest wimp in the world!

    Bilbo, shhhh! People aren’t supposed to know that about Great Danes. I’ve raised them myself; they’re actually big babies that love people and affection. But your daughter’s right; no one messes with you when you’re walking a Dane.


  57. bilbobaggins Says:

    Comment by Exley — October 16, 2007 @ 10:03 am

    Why don’t you go post on redstate Right Wing Loon Exley. We are not interested in what you post. We use our brains and we all know that AQI is a product of our military’s branding. They decided to start calling insurgents AQI and the insurgents were only too happy to adopt that label since they thought it made them bigger and badder. Also, since our military has estimated AQI is only about 5% of the fighters in Iraq, even if they all went away, we would still have 95% of the fighters left intact and ready for a new day. I fail to see how that is good news.


  58. jgrant@goldfeinlaw.com Says:

    Why does Bush continue to be seen only in the presents of other white people . I look for black people who are never there. Dosent this distrurb
    anyone. Cant they find some minority toattend these Bush Lover ’s only diatribes.
    We know he republicans are more and more the party of only one race.

    This bodes well for big tent democrats .


  59. Squegeeboo Says:

    Air America radio host Randi Rhodes was mugged on Sunday night while walking her dog nearby her Manhattan apartment.

    That sucks, I hope she heals quick.

    much of the Southeast has reached the most severe category of drought
    The town in south-west TN my father moved to is one of those screwed places. Yet the town can’t account for over 1/2 a million gallons of water a day.


  60. Marie Says:

    The news report about Randi Rhodes meing mugged, with no evidence of this being a robbery — and that the mechanic found bullet holes in the car of Thom Hartmenn — are horrifying.
    Are those who speak truth to power endangering their lives?
    Are we going back to the 1950’s and 1960’s when civil rights proponents were killed?
    Are people who speak out to protect and defend the Constitution to be in fear for their lives?
    Will we ever learn if these attacks were committed by any of the rabid right-wingers who believe the lies fed to them by their conservative talk show hosts at whose feet they worship?


  61. katy Says:

    The Next Right Wing Lie: FISA
    By Sam Seder on October 15, 2007 - 4:31pm

    Be prepared, with the FISA fight coming you will see and hear this lie:

    October 15, 2007 — WASHINGTON - U.S. intelligence officials got mired for nearly 10 hours seeking approval to use wiretaps against al Qaeda terrorists suspected of kidnapping Queens soldier Alex Jimenez in Iraq earlier this year, The Post has learned.

    This week, Congress plans to vote on a bill that leaves in place the legal hurdles in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act - problems that were highlighted during the May search for a group of kidnapped U.S. soldiers.
    When you do, remember that:
    a) no warrant is needed for foreign to foreign calls
    b) this was simply another Bush “administration” screw up….

    McConnell told the committee today that restrictions derived by the FISA Court this year on wiretapping foreign-to-foreign communications that pass through the U.S. prevented the NSA from surveilling Iraqi insurgents who had kidnapped U.S. soldiers for 12 hours. But the source, who is privvy to the timeline of the incident, says “internal bureaucratic wrangling,” and not court-based restrictions, were responsible for the lag time. “To get an emergency warrant, you just have to believe the facts support the application that someone is an agent of a foreign power,” the source says. “That takes approximately five seconds to establish if you’re going after an Iraqi insurgent.”

    for links:
    http://www.airamerica.com/node/5515#comment

    .


  62. billgrok Says:

    Responsibility!!!???
    There is rampant, outright fraud in our financial system because of this man!

    Please help fight it!
    http://www.financialpetition.org/

    Bill Grok


  63. katy Says:

    i can’t find a story about randi rhodes on either the
    google news or even airamerica’s site…

    wtf???


  64. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    What’s truly interesting about the Randi Rhodes discussion on this thread is that although no poster had definitively asserted that the assault was politically motivated, the trolls du jour (Joneser and TCDon) are going out of their way to maintain that it was not.

    Absent more evidence, it’s premature to declare that the assault was politically motivated, but it’s every bit as premature to declare that it was not. Given the facts known at this time, there’s ample reason to suspect political motivations, and no reason whatsoever to simply dismiss them out of hand.


  65. Juan C. Says:

    From Exley´s link:

    “To say their backs are broken is not right. They do have their backs against the wall,” Kohlmann said.

    Hahahaha… deep analysis there.

    Whatever.


  66. EvilPoet Says:

    During his townhall meeting in Arkansas yesterday, “not a single questioner criticized” President Bush. With polls showing Bush’s disapproval at record highs, the White House is staging “let-Bush-be-Bush events” in front of “friendly audiences” with “increasing frequency.”

    …and all of it paid for by we the taxpayers. The arrogance is breathtaking, isn’t it?

    He can try and catapult the propaganda all he likes, it changes nothing. The almighty Commander Guy is standing on a foundation made of lying and deceit. A foundation built on lies and deception crumbles under the weight of the truth. He can try and outrun the truth, but eventually it will catch up with him. We all reap what we sow.


  67. Squegeeboo Says:

    katy
    i can’t find a story about randi rhodes on either the
    google news or even airamerica’s site…

    Nor can I.


  68. cbarbour Says:

    Does that sign really say Fiscal Responsibility? Tell me I’m not seeing an “Ir” before the bottom word.


  69. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    >Ahh the conspiracy continues.

    Arent you the one who beleives in a massive conspiracy of Arabs?

    Yeah and Exlexia, thats a nice article about AQI there, now that you’ve given multi-million dollar bribes to saddams goons who used to be fighting us, I guess now all you have to worry about is your original problem that led your heroes to arm saddam in the first place, which is the fact that Iraqi democracy means a pro-iranian, pro-islamic, anti-western agenda…
    Iran and shia islam doesnt need to wait for us to leave to take over, they are already doing it “democratically” with the freedom your hero gave them..

    how about this one:
    http://www.cnn.com/ 2007/ US/ 10/ 15/ terror.study/ index.html?iref=topnews

    4 whole terrorist guys convicted for Us plots since 9-11, including the alleged bumbling 20th hijacker, the shoe bomber who didnt make it on george bush;s “no fly” list, and lets not forget a trucker who plottted to cut down the brooklyn bridge with a welding torch…


  70. Wilco Says:

    cbarbour, you’re taking it too seriously. Look at Bush. He’s laughing. The sign is a joke. Because of course he knows nothing of fiscal responsibility.
    He’s having a little fun with his audience!


  71. katy Says:

    well… at least, according to randi’s site, SAM SEDER
    is the guest host today… ahhhh… love the sam…

    it is weird that there are no other stories on this incident…

    i’d tune in to hear if lionul says anything, but i just can’t stand him…
    if i weren’t too busy to bother yesterday, i would’ve turned him off…

    damn, and randi just had dental work done…
    she is gonna be pissed…


  72. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    and dont even think twice about those people arrested for plots overseas….those aren’t “american interests” and arent important in the calculus as your hero ms. Cheney so recently pointed out..


  73. Joneser Says:

    49,

    People don’t need a reason to be violent. Ish happens. Evil is evil it doesn’t need a reason, no different than good. it just is.


  74. upside99 Says:

    the White House is staging “let-Bush-be-Bush events” in front of “friendly audiences” with “increasing frequency.”

    We have let “Bush be Bush” for 6 1/2 years and that has been the biggest threat to this world in that time!


  75. Bluedahlia Says:

    katy
    i can’t find a story about randi rhodes on either the
    google news or even airamerica’s site…

    Nor can I.

    Comment by Squegeeboo — October

    Google is not the best place to find answers. Check this out.


  76. Bluedahlia Says:

    People don’t need a reason to be violent. Ish happens. Evil is evil it doesn’t need a reason, no different than good. it just is.

    Comment by Joneser — October 16, 2007 @ 10:33 am

    There is no evil. That is just for people who want an excuse for the choices they make. Grow up.


  77. Squegeeboo Says:

    Bluedahlia
    Google is not the best place to find answers. Check this out.

    There needs to be a term, like goodwining, for whenever people go back to 9/11 conspiracy stuff.


  78. Joneser Says:

    56…

    “Jonsey” I like that… should have used that one instead. Condescending flattery wil get you nowhere…

    Yes “tamed”, you can’t completly tame a wild beast like New York, but you can try to control it
    ;)


  79. Squegeeboo Says:

    Also, when I search for 911truth they are the top hit.

    So this bit
    Has readership at 911truth.org waned to the point that we don’t have enough traffic to even show up in a search on our own name?

    Is either a blatant lie, or has been fixed.


  80. Bluedahlia Says:

    Troll’s squeeze, did you even read the article or did you just ignore it because it came from 911truth?


  81. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    the officer accidently pumped his head putting him in the squad car after being arrested for the same crime a few months prior.

    Comment by Joneser — October 16, 2007 @ 9:55 am

    Sounds like an accurate description of a “Republican legislator” to me…

    Perhaps the police should be looking for over-weight, middle-aged white males wearing flag pins on their lapels…


  82. Zimzone Says:

    Perhaps the police should be looking for over-weight, middle-aged white males wearing flag pins on their lapels…-The Republic of Stupidity

    And then ‘pump their heads’. But, what would we do with the sewage?


  83. Squegeeboo Says:

    Bluedahlia
    Troll’s squeeze, did you even read the article or did you just ignore it because it came from 911truth?

    Yes I read it, I even quoted part of it, so allow me to re-iterate my point:
    It Is either a blatant lie, or has been fixed.


  84. Uncle Ho Says:

    Bush-friendly audiences.

    Hitler had his loyal party members right to the bitter end too.


  85. Uncle Ho Says:

    Get well soon Randi


  86. Bluedahlia Says:

    Troll’s sqeeze,
    Are you saying it never happened? The day I read that article, it was indeed the truth. Everything in the article was true. So, it is possible that google fixed it. Why? We will probably never know. Does that change the message? Or are you going to go on attacking the messanger like a con?


  87. moondancer Says:

    Re: townhall type meeting…staging…with increasing frequency…

    As if he was EVER let in front of a true open audience. Do you think Herr Rove (minister of message) would let that nitwit in front of real people?

    It’s just getting a little harder to find cooperative citizens. He’s left with rural communities and military bases. Probably by the end of his travesty, he’ll be reduced to making “important” speeches to mannequin conventions…and that might be risky.


  88. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    Squegeeboo sez:

    It Is either a blatant lie, or has been fixed.

    There’s plenty of evidence available regarding Google’s censorship of 9/11 Truth topics, squegee.


  89. Joneser Says:

    81

    yeah fortunatley most of the time they resign under scrutiny unlike some mayors and govenors i know of on the otherside… but you can’t get a pass today if you are male, hetero, white, christain, and conservative. Its the only group that can be persecuted and insulted with impunity it seems. BUt what do I know I’m a black male.

    Almost similar to Hegel’s master slave with the poles flipped.


  90. Joneser Says:

    84

    Hitler was also anti-smoking zealot, took away the right to bear arms in germany, hated animal abuse, and was an athiets.

    Your point?


  91. Art Says:

    “About 300 people attended the session, for which the local chamber of commerce and the Arkansas Republican Party distributed tickets. The chamber’s president, Raymond Burns, said he had hoped to draw an audience that represented “a diversity of businesses,” not a diversity of political points of view, and that had “people who are respectful.”

    “A diversity of businesses”??? Soooo GOP!!

    Also, at least they acknowlege that there is a “diversity of political points of view” out there. They just don’t want to hear it.

    And another thing, Just because they are Republican, doesn’t necessarily mean they are “respectful”.


  92. Squegeeboo Says:

    Bluedahlia
    Are you saying it never happened?
    I am saying it either never happened, or is now fixed. You claim that it did happen, and a simple Google search turned up more info on it, so it looks like it did happen, and is now fixed.

    So, it is possible that google fixed it. Why? We will probably never know.
    Well I doubt Google would be dumb enough to change the link to go to Nauru as the primary hit, so Google either got Google bombed by some right wing sites, or, less likely, Google got hacked, or possible, but extremely doubtful, they did it themselves.

    Does that change the message?

    Yes. If they didn’t fix it, then it would be a different message.

    Or are you going to go on attacking the messanger like a con?
    No, I’m going to look at it from a logical standpoint instead of from under my tin-foil hat like a 911 conspiracy nut.


  93. Buckie Boy Says:

    radio host Randi Rhodes was mugged

    This is what kind of cowards on the right are, mugging a woman, Roger Roger Ron Rory BigIdiot this is your type, this is YOUR SIDE, this is something that YOU WOULD DO AND APPROVE OF. You are scum.

    My sympathy and hope that you recover Randi and really hope the Police (ha, the probably approve of it) catch this scum and expose the ReighWingers for what they are.

    Buck Fush


  94. katy Says:

    Bob Jones Dean Endorses … Romney!

    A top official at Bob Jones University, the Evangelical Christian school with a history of anti-Mormon rhetoric, plans to throw his weight behind Mormon presidential hopeful Mitt Romney.
    […]
    http://blogs.wsj.com/ washwire/ 2007/ 10/ 15/ bob-jones-dean-endorses-romney/ ?mod=blogs

    ah hahaha! … imagine that…
    .


  95. Bluedahlia Says:

    For an atheist, Hitler sure used the word of God to move his people….


  96. Buckie Boy Says:

    was an athiets.

    Comment by Joneser

    You’re an idiot - he was a CHRISTIAN

    Buck Fush


  97. Bluedahlia Says:

    Or are you going to go on attacking the messanger like a con?
    No, I’m going to look at it from a logical standpoint instead of from under my tin-foil hat like a 911 conspiracy nut.

    Comment by Squegeeboo — October 16, 2007 @ 11:02 am
    Whatever, seems to me you are jsut a switch hitter trying to stir the pot. But of course, that conspiracy is just too darn big to prove.


  98. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    Squegeeboo sez:

    No, I’m going to look at it from a logical standpoint instead of from under my tin-foil hat like a 911 conspiracy nut.

    As I said before, squegee, plenty of evidence.


  99. Leftside Annie Says:

    The reichwing freaknuts have absolutely no compunction about beating up a 12 year old kid — -why would they hesitate to attack a woman…?


  100. Bluedahlia Says:

    So Troll’s squeeze, if I had stated “The stuff in the article is fixed now, but if you read the article, you can see what has happened and links to back up other abuses.” back in my original post, where would your argument be? No, attack the messange is all you have.


  101. Bluedahlia Says:

    Should be “messanger”.


  102. Squegeeboo Says:

    Bluedahlia
    ” back in my original post, where would your argument be?

    Right about here:

    Well I doubt Google would be dumb enough to change the link to go to Nauru as the primary hit, so Google either got Google bombed by some right wing sites, or, less likely, Google got hacked, or possible, but extremely doubtful, they did it themselves.

    TripMaster Monkey
    As I said before, squegee, plenty of evidence.
    Evidence of lowering the ranking of 911 stuff yes, not of completely removing it from search results. They have done similar things with some right wing stuff, most notable in regards to right wing news sources.


  103. Bluedahlia Says:

    So how does what you are saying invalidate my assertion that google may not be the best place to search for information?


  104. Joneser Says:

    In the news…

    October 9th

    Anti-Muslim posters go up at George Washington University

    * Students plan awareness week to counter anti-Islam attitude

    By Khalid Hasan

    WASHINGTON: Another sign of the general feeling against growing Islamist radicalism came to light on Monday here when anti-Muslim posters were found plastered on the walls of George Washington University, widely known as a liberal campus.

    Campus police removed the posters and fliers as student bodies met to deplore the incident. One poster carried the photo of an Arab with a description of a “typical Muslim” as one who wears a “suicide vest,” carries a “hidden AK-47” and bears a “peg-leg for smuggling children and heroin”. According to press reports, the posters have upset the student body, which is hosting an “Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week” later this month. Some students thought the posters might be a joke at the expense of the conservatives, as fine print at the bottom of one said: “Brought to you by Students for Conservativo-Fascism Awareness” — and a postscript recommending a BBC video on the politics of fear. The Washington Post quoted a New York Muslim student Najah El Bash, a leader of the conservative Muslim Students Association, who said, “I was just really shocked that this sort of hatred exists on our campus. You never think this would come so close to home, from people youu’re in classes with. It’s scary.”

    University President Steven Knapp said in a statement, “There is no place for expressions of hatred on our campus.” He called the fliers reprehensible and said students of different faiths would be gathering this week for a community meal with Muslims during Ramazan. “This event speaks of our university’s commitment to global cultural understanding and respect,” he added. The Young America’s Foundation, a group of the university’s conservative students, whose name appeared under the fliers, denied any linkage. Sergio Gor, president of the group, said he was horrified when he heard about the fliers. “We did not put up those posters,” he said. “Someone took our name and used it. It was hateful. We’re a conservative group on campus. We promote liberty and freedom, not bigotry and hatred.” One former president of the group blamed the Left for the outrage.

    http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/ default.asp?page=2007%5C10%5C10%5Cstory_10-10-2007_pg7_8


  105. Squegeeboo Says:

    Bluedahlia
    So how does what you are saying invalidate my assertion that google may not be the best place to search for information?

    I would think this would be enough to invalidate your assertion
    Google 43.7%
    Yahoo 28.8%

    If they aren’t the best place, then I doubt they would be leading the nearest competition by 15% market share.

    Now if all you care about searching is conspiracy theories, and it is in the 1 week period when your favorite site stops being the top hit, you may have to try someone else in the short term.


  106. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    Squegeeboo sez:

    Evidence of lowering the ranking of 911 stuff yes, not of completely removing it from search results.

    Actually, squegee, evidence of both. You need to peruse the link a provided a little more diligently. If you don’t have the time for that , just look up “google charlie sheen” for one example.

    They have done similar things with some right wing stuff, most notable in regards to right wing news sources.

    And does that make it right?


  107. Bluedahlia Says:

    Joneser,
    Since when is pointing out hatred considered being hateful? Circular much?


  108. Joneser Says:

    But then again

    Hatred’s Ricochet
    By Ben Johnson
    FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 16, 2007

    “A lie can get halfway around the world before the truth can even get its boots on.” – Mark Twain.

    Word of the mock “Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week” posters – more than 100 of which left-wing students posted on the campus of George Washington University last week – has reached Osama bin Laden’s backyard.

    A recent news blurb about the hate fliers, entitled merely “Anti-Muslim posters go up at George Washington University,” appeared in the most recent edition of The Daily Times…of Pakistan.

    As with all other media coverage, the bold print ignored that a group of leftist students – including a Muslim – planted the fliers, misappropriating the student organization’s name, Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week’s name and website, and the logo of George Washington University; the Pakistani story’s sub-headline read: “Students plan awareness week to counter anti-Islam attitude.” While recounting the deep pain these fliers alleged caused GWU’s Muslims, the story stated, “Some students thought the posters might be a joke at the expense of the conservatives.” (Emphasis added. The story also called the Muslim Students Association “conservative.”)

    The words of the story ignore the context: this is the region of the world is a seething cauldron of anti-American hatred believed to be sheltering the men who perpetrated 9/11. Some have said in a free election Pakistanis would elected Osama bin Laden president by a comfortable margin. Its tribal citizenry already believes the American heart is an abyss of decadence and anti-Muslim hatred. The story’s ambiguities reinforce those prejudices in a country even left-wing Democrats agree is vital to American soldiers currently fighting the War on Terrorism.

    These are the serious consequences of sophomoric behavior. This left-wing “satire” has now ricocheted around the world, from a boiling P.C. campus to the nerve center of worldwide jihad. Two years ago, another hoax that attributed anti-Muslim behavior to American patriots touched off a sting of riots throughout the Muslim world, claiming 16 lives. Islamo-fascists do not care if the creators of the fliers were conservative American or left-wing (anti-)Americans; they care only that such posters exist – and in an honor-based culture, the blowback may yet be unbearable.

    These infractions should move GWU administrators to throw the book at the gang of seven students who posted these hate-fliers. If George Washington University administrators could not be moved by the fliers’ dishonesty, the needless suffering and humiliation heaped upon members of GWU’s Young America’s Foundation, or the misuse of its own logo, perhaps it take note of the international scope this incident has taken on – and the accompanying embarrassment these left-wingers have caused GWU.

    Case Closed

    Instead, the university announced Friday it has closed its investigation – and has said nothing of pending charges against the students. “Following University policy, any violations of the Code of Student Conduct that occurred in connection with this activity will be handled through the Student Judicial Services process, without regard to the political views or affiliations of those found to have been involved,” wrote Director of Media Relations Tracy Schario in an e-mail to the official student newspaper, The Daily Colonial. The paper also notes none of the leftist students is speaking to the media about the process.

    Since “Students for Conserativo-Fascism Awareness” is not an official university student organization, it had no business hanging fliers anywhere in the first place, nor using the GWU logo, nor sitting back while another group was publicly flailed for its handiwork. Nor have these seven students shown a hint of remorse. The group wrote in letter confessing to the action, “It was inspiring to see that students directed their attention to the real threat.” That is, their posters had the intended consequence of branding all dissent from radical orthodoxy as “hate.” No one currently knows whether there are any charges to investigate, or if there will ever be consequences for this hate screed that has now been reported in Islamabad.

    The attitude of GWU administrators do not hold out cause for hope. When the posters appeared to be the work of campus conservatives, university president Steven Knapp immediately reacted, “There is no place for expressions of hatred on our campus.” The administration sent an e-mail to YAF leaders, demanding they draft “a statement which states that you will not allow hate speech to be a part of any of YAF’s events, literature, written or verbal communication planned for Islamofacism Week.”


  109. Squegeeboo Says:

    Oops, old link, shouldn’t have been using Google apparently, or should just remeber to build a better query. However, current % are roughly the same for Google and Yahoo.


  110. katy Says:

    some stories beginning to get posted on the google news…

    this snippet answers some questions:

    Rhodes, 48, was walking Simon, her Yorkshire terrier, when someone attacked her. She reportedly lost at least two teeth. It was unclear if Simon was injured.
    http://www.miamiherald.com/ news/ breaking_news/ story/ 273295.html

    .


  111. Joneser Says:

    Projection and conspiracy….

    and then there is the truth.

    Nonetheless I hope Randi Rhodes recovers. No ill will here.


  112. Jason M. Hendler Says:

    Karma strikes again!

    Randi Rhodes gets her ass kicked trying to live the good life, while she promotes a liberal agenda that creates, then protects criminals.

    Screaming banshee lib gets her mouth shut by one of her constituents - there is a God.


  113. Bluedahlia Says:

    Troll’s sqeeze,
    You know, your desperation has turned me off of debating with you. You employed smear tactics instead of looking at the message and now you are backpedaling. I have more important things to do than argue with you all day and frankly people here don’t want to read it. Rethink your priorities and see if causing arguments is really more important than standing up for a cause.


  114. upside99 Says:

    Comment by Joneser — October 16, 2007 @ 11:34 am

    UHHH, Jonesy, you might want to be careful what source you quote from.

    Front Page Rag is published by David Whorewitz, and both are the most scumbag NeoCon sources of info you can find. They make Drudge look like a Progressive!

    Guess it shows where your loyalties lie.


  115. Keltoi Says:

    Given the fact that Randi was wearing a jogging suit at the time of the attack, was carrying no purse, and had no jewelry showing, how do you explain this violent assault?
    Comment by TripMaster Monkey — October 16, 2007 @ 10:01 am

    It could have been a botched rape attempt, it COULD have been anything, maybe we should let a whole 48 hours pass and let the investigation occur before we start using this as an excuse to call each other scum (#93) and suggesting anyone approves of this. Just a thought.


  116. RUCerious Says:

    in front of “friendly audiences” with “increasing frequency.”

    They’re gonna have a harder and harder time finding contestants to play this game show as the chymp’s ratings go into single digits.


  117. Joneser Says:

    113

    the news that it was a lie is just breaking… and the left wingers confessed to it…

    112
    Purple/Blue Dahlia

    do you have anything to say that isn’t cliche? Dahlia? Its like the school yard bully, I bring a topic that cuts both ways as people talk about this conspiracy that Randi Rhodes was attacked but a right winger… I mean how do you wake up at night thinking the right is out to get you. Its hackneyed and tired. At least put some of your “blue” food coloring in the puddle that is you cliche and make it at least look a little deeper than it is.


  118. Squegeeboo Says:

    TripMaster Monkey
    And does that make it right?

    If they want to try and make non-far left/right sites be higher up than the crazy stuff, then yes, it helps out everyone looking for actual information as opposed to people just going to re-enforce they’re pre-conceived views.

    Additionally, 9/11 of the articles in your link happened before April of this year, with the majority of those happening pre-2007. It sounds like Google has stopped (for the most part) their censorship issues.

    Bluedahlia
    You employed smear tactics
    Really? From the guy who calls me Troll’s squeeze?

    I have more important things to do than argue with you all day and frankly people here don’t want to read it.

    Making sure you can catch up on all the 911truth articles you missed from when Google was ‘censoring’ them?


  119. RUCerious Says:

    House GOP leadership “has held private discussions with Rep. John Doolittle (R-CA) in an effort to convince him to retire.” But Doolittle, who is under federal investigation, is “promising to run for re-election.”

    DooNothing is so damn dumb he can’t read the handwriting on the wall in a size 12,000 Arial font.


  120. Joneser Says:

    114

    A toast to you Keltoi.


  121. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    yep coulter has been pied before.. not sure if it hit.. dont think it did, sadly..

    About as close to “sweet” that coultergeist ever has gotten.


  122. Squegeeboo Says:

    RUCerious
    DooNothing is so damn dumb he can’t read the handwriting on the wall in a size 12,000 Arial font.

    To be far, you’d have to back up pretty far to read that.


  123. upside99 Says:

    Comment by Joneser — October 16, 2007 @ 11:49 am

    And I am sure you googled that story as you don’t read Front page Rag, right?

    And I am sure Whorowitz reports all the news, like the McConnell story, and the 8 Captains article and Gen. Abizaid’s comments? Didn’t think so.

    Always know your sources …. and your limitations.


  124. RUCerious Says:

    To be fair, you’d have to have your reading glasses on and look from ceiling to floor!


  125. Wilco Says:

    Squeege, I don’t think I’ve seen you this upset before


  126. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    Squegeeboo sez:

    If they want to try and make non-far left/right sites be higher up than the crazy stuff, then yes, it helps out everyone looking for actual information as opposed to people just going to re-enforce they’re pre-conceived views.

    Not even worth responding to.


  127. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    >Hitler was also anti-smoking zealot,
    >took away the right to bear arms in
    > germany, hated animal abuse, and was an athietst
    > your point?

    HItler was also insisting that his offensive invasions were merely protecting the homeland, that his country was blessed by god, and that there was a conspiracy of foreigners against his people.

    Your point?

    I think you probably agree with Bin Laden’s assertion that taxes in this country are too high, right? What should we infer from the fact you and Bin Laden agree about something?


  128. Joneser Says:

    Again it is breaking news in the last few hours, mainstream will comment soon too


  129. Zooey Says:

    Comment by Exley — October 16, 2007 @ 10:03 am

    Don’t give up the dream, babe!

    Geez…


  130. Squegeeboo Says:

    Wilco
    Squeege, I don’t think I’ve seen you this upset before

    Well it’s not that often that I lose so badly to a guy who doesn’t even have the common courtesy to ctrl-C my handle properly. I guess that’s what I get for not bothering to do more research ahead of time.

    TripMaster Monkey
    Not even worth responding to.

    Yet you did. :) Sorry, I was a bit frustrated at painting myself into a corner.


  131. katy Says:

    “Students for Conserativo-Fascism Awareness”

    that’s kinda funny…


  132. Joneser Says:

    126

    my point was about picking and choosing it had nothing to do with comparing the left to hitler (sigh) i assumed you went back to the original post i commented on…


  133. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    >I mean how do you wake up at night thinking the right is out to get you.

    When Mallkin starts posting peoples home addresses on her website thats not “out to get” someone? You think shes really so stupid as to not realize some of her more rabid fans are going to take this as an implicit command to go hide in thier bushes like she did?


  134. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    Keltoi sez:

    It could have been a botched rape attempt, it COULD have been anything,

    Anything including a politically motivated assault. It’s interesting how the trolls here will lend credence to just about any explanation but that one, which they immediately and hurriedly dismiss out of hand.

    maybe we should let a whole 48 hours pass and let the investigation occur before we start using this as an excuse to call each other scum (#93) and suggesting anyone approves of this. Just a thought.

    Maybe, if “we” want to respond to a particular poster, “we” should respond directly to that poster, instead of referencing his viewpoint and attempting to ascribe it to another poster who said no such thing.

    Just a thought.


  135. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    >i assumed you went back to the original post i commented on…

    i accept your apology.


  136. katy Says:

    spelled wrong though… should be “conservito-fascism”…
    … not?

    at least that term is not an oxymoron…


  137. Zooey Says:

    i accept your apology.
    Comment by Chocolate Jesus — October 16, 2007 @ 12:05 pm

    Such a generous delicious chocolate jesus. :)


  138. upside99 Says:

    Comment by Joneser — October 16, 2007 @ 12:01 pm

    But, do you read Whorowitz’ Front Page Rag? All the Inquiring minds here want to know?


  139. Joneser Says:

    134

    LOL


  140. katy Says:

    wow… ed schultz just sent well wishes to randi, via his show…

    randi and he are not exactly friends… she’s not “fond” of him…

    good on ya, ed…


  141. Keltoi Says:

    Maybe, if “we” want to respond to a particular poster, “we” should respond directly to that poster, instead of referencing his viewpoint and attempting to ascribe it to another poster who said no such thing.

    Just a thought.
    Comment by TripMaster Monkey — October 16, 2007 @ 12:05 pm

    Weren’t you accusing me of being overly sensitive yesterday? I am not conflating you and 93, everyone here is smart enough to get that.

    And yeah, it COULD have been a politically motivated attack, never said otherwise, I just think assuming - or even inferring - any such motivation at this point is premature.


  142. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    Keltoi sez:

    I am not conflating you and 93, everyone here is smart enough to get that.

    That’s exactly what you are trying to do. If you have a beef with Buckie Boy’s post, then reply to him about it, not me.

    And yeah, it COULD have been a politically motivated attack, never said otherwise, I just think assuming - or even inferring - any such motivation at this point is premature.

    As I had already said as much back in post #65, your characterization of me as a person who has already made up their mind about the matter is inaccurate.


  143. Keltoi Says:

    That’s exactly what you are trying to do.

    Comment by TripMaster Monkey — October 16, 2007 @ 12:32 pm

    No, I am NOT. I read you first post, copied it, scrolled down, noted your post in 65, tsked at the post in 93, then pasted and replied.

    Half the time we disagree, Trip, I think it is because you ascribe the worst motives to my words. That is often the case with some of the folks you tangle with here, but it really isn’t my deal.


  144. Buckie Boy Says:

    If you read into the Rhodes attack, the Police are treating it as a HATE CRIME, they are not releasing details yet, in other words, they were spewing RiechWing Hate at her while they beat her. 99% sure that this is the Repukian Scum at work here.

    Buck Fush


  145. Joneser Says:

    143

    you got to love this guy! He has to be wearing black all day with a pair of Nike Cortez’s, a shaved head and looking to the sky for a comet with a cup of kool aid in hand… he must.


  146. Uncle Ho Says:

    comment by Joneser @ 10:58 am

    the point is that there are always some fanatics who are true believers and blindly follow their evil leader no matter what, always rationalizing their beliefs.


  147. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    Buckie Boy sez:

    If you read into the Rhodes attack, the Police are treating it as a HATE CRIME, they are not releasing details yet, in other words, they were spewing RiechWing Hate at her while they beat her.

    If the police aren’t releasing details, how do you know they were spewing ReichWing Hate at her during the assault?

    Not trying to be argumentative, or question your sincerity or honesty. I’d just like to see some evidence of this, so we can stop speculating wildly and discuss this issue from a better-informed standing.


  148. Keltoi Says:

    AAR’s official blogger, Nancy Scola, posted the following message on the lib network’s website this morning:

    “Air America host Randi Rhodes experienced an unfortunate incident hindering her from hosting her show. The reports of a presumed hate crime are unfounded. Ms. Rhodes looks forward to being back on the air on Thursday.”


  149. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    >Such a generous delicious chocolate jesus. :)

    I’m the mocha messiah that melts in your mouth, not in your stigmata, and im infinity percent darker and more righteous than daryll. amen.


  150. Witch1 Says:

    OT sorry, Am I the only person on the face of the earth that (did not know) Nancy Palosi knew about the bush wiretpping when cheney and bush took office in 2000.?……Damn, it just keep’s getting dirtier all the time…Just read this bit of ugly on Tom Panes site…Stupid me, I thought all this time she was on our side…I guess it just proves if they are in office more than one term they are bound to be corrupt…..Blessings all, we realy need them.



  151. Squegeeboo Says:

    Chocolate Jesus
    I’m the mocha messiah that melts in your mouth, not in your stigmata, and im infinity percent darker and more righteous than daryll. amen.

    Wow. You should be in every kids Easter basket.


  152. Keltoi Says:

    Uh-oh, Buckie Boy, looks like that one percent chance that is isn’t a vast right wing conspiracy came true….

    http://www.nydailynews.com/ news/ 2007/ 10/ 16/ 2007-10-16_air_america_host_randi_rhodes_wasnt_mugg.html


  153. FunMe Says:

    katy
    i can’t find a story about randi rhodes on either the
    google news or even airamerica’s site…

    Nor can I.

    Comment by Squegeeboo — October 16, 2007 @ 10:22 am

    HERE ARE 2 ARTICLES:

    http://www.miamiherald.com/ news/ breaking_news/ story/ 273295.html

    http://www.amny.com/ news/ local/ am-randirhodes1016,0,2190317.story?track=rss


  154. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    Keltoi sez:

    Uh-oh, Buckie Boy, looks like that one percent chance that is isn’t a vast right wing conspiracy came true….

    http://www.nydailynews.com/ news/ 2007/ 10/ 16/ 2007-10-16_air_america_host_randi_rhodes_wasnt_mugg.html

    Actually, this passage from this article on amNY.com seems to leave the question open:

    Gaulin confirmed that Rhodes was injured after she was floored by someone _ or something _ as she strolled the streets of Manhattan’s Murray Hill district around 8 p.m., but wasn’t sure herself what sent her tumbling to the pavement.

    “She hit her head on the street