Comments on: U.S. not ‘tactically’ safer as a result of Iraq war. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:57:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Max-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4122408 Max-1 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:57:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4122408 . <i>No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in 6 years. Yes, I feel safer. Comment by TCDon</i> ... And yet the murder rate rises on that same soil... Humm... . .

No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in 6 years. Yes, I feel safer.

Comment by TCDon

… And yet the murder rate rises on that same soil… Humm…

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]]> By: Max-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4122406 Max-1 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:55:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4122406 . What is it called when the Leader of a Nation has left it MORE vulnerable and susceptible to an enemy's attack. What is it called when that Leader savagely rips apart his Nation's Pride and Principles? There is a word for it... But dare we speak it? . .

What is it called when the Leader of a Nation has left it MORE vulnerable and susceptible to an enemy’s attack.

What is it called when that Leader savagely rips apart his Nation’s Pride and Principles?

There is a word for it…

But dare we speak it?

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]]> By: natisman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4121978 natisman Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:14:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4121978 Is it time to say? "No Shit Shirlock" Is it time to say?

“No Shit Shirlock”

]]> By: alphainfinityomega http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4121137 alphainfinityomega Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:28:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4121137 We damn sure have less rights and more debt. <strong>∞</strong> We damn sure have less rights and more debt.

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]]> By: StratRat http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4121129 StratRat Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:23:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4121129 <em>No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in 6 years. Yes, I feel safer. Comment by TCDon</em> What about the 3800+ American soldiers killed and the thousands of better trained terrorists now on the lose. Your little world encompasses about 1 square yard, doesn't it? If the furriners are not under your bed or down the street - we are all safer? I know you don't get out too much, but the world is rather big and complicated. Bankrupting our treasury and sending our brave soldiers to die in an illegal war should be your priorities - not telling educated people that you feel safer. As any good chickenhawk would say: "I had better things to do than help in the war effort". No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in 6 years. Yes, I feel safer.

Comment by TCDon

What about the 3800+ American soldiers killed and the thousands of better trained terrorists now on the lose. Your little world encompasses about 1 square yard, doesn’t it? If the furriners are not under your bed or down the street – we are all safer? I know you don’t get out too much, but the world is rather big and complicated. Bankrupting our treasury and sending our brave soldiers to die in an illegal war should be your priorities – not telling educated people that you feel safer. As any good chickenhawk would say: “I had better things to do than help in the war effort”.

]]> By: VerbalKint http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4121126 VerbalKint Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:22:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4121126 Strategically maybe. Yeah, maybe 50 years from now we'll be safer, because we will have learned to NEVER put an imbecile like Bush in charge of the country again. But oh the price we will pay between now and then. Strategically maybe. Yeah, maybe 50 years from now we’ll be safer, because we will have learned to NEVER put an imbecile like Bush in charge of the country again. But oh the price we will pay between now and then.

]]> By: Loonie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4121096 Loonie Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:11:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4121096 In other news, snow discovered to be cold. In other news, snow discovered to be cold.

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4121057 Chocolate Jesus Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:54:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4121057 >Just a little Anthrax between friends eh? Havent you heard... Rush just described Democratic senators offices and tabloid newspapers as "phony soil".. they dont count! >Just a little Anthrax between friends eh?

Havent you heard… Rush just described Democratic senators offices and tabloid newspapers as “phony soil”.. they dont count!

]]> By: RickS http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4121030 RickS Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:44:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4121030 No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in 6 years. Yes, I feel safer. Comment by TCDon Interestingly, it was six years between the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City and 9/11. Just saying. No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in 6 years. Yes, I feel safer.

Comment by TCDon

Interestingly, it was six years between the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City and 9/11.

Just saying.

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4121022 Chocolate Jesus Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:42:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4121022 >No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in 6 years. Before 9-11 there had been no terrorist attacks attacks on domestic soil for over 6 years. and the only terrorist attack before that was christian terrorist tim mcveigh. whats your point? what exactly did Bush do to prevent Rich Reid from blowing up a plane over the united states? >No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in 6 years.

Before 9-11 there had been no terrorist attacks attacks on domestic soil for over 6 years. and the only terrorist attack before that was christian terrorist tim mcveigh. whats your point?

what exactly did Bush do to prevent Rich Reid from blowing up a plane over the united states?

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4121021 RUCerious Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:42:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4121021 Tactically, not, Strategically not. The failed policies of the Bushits have placed this nation in more peril than we faced prior to 9/11. More Muslims have devoted their lives to our destruction, more people in the world hate us, and we are making enemies faster than we can kill them... Heckuva job, chympie. Tactically, not, Strategically not.

The failed policies of the Bushits have placed this nation in more peril than we faced prior to 9/11.

More Muslims have devoted their lives to our destruction, more people in the world hate us, and we are making enemies faster than we can kill them…

Heckuva job, chympie.

]]> By: Chris L http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4121011 Chris L Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:36:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4121011 No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in 6 years. Yes, I feel safer. Comment by TCDon — October 16, 2007 @ 11:28 am # How many attacks on US soil did we have under Clinton? This is from a previous post: The fact is, America and American interests have been attacked 9 times by terrorists since 9-11 (including the still unsolved Anthrax murders). — 2002 June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb exploded outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda. 2003 May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers killed 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected. 2004 May 29–31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including one American. June 11–19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks. Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security. 2005 Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: Suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility. 2006 Sept. 13, Damascus, Syria: an attack by four gunman on the American embassy was foiled. 2007 Jan. 12, Athens, Greece: the U.S. embassy was fired on by an anti-tank missile causing damage but no injuries. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001454.html No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in 6 years. Yes, I feel safer.

Comment by TCDon — October 16, 2007 @ 11:28 am
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How many attacks on US soil did we have under Clinton?

This is from a previous post:

The fact is, America and American interests have been attacked 9 times by terrorists since 9-11 (including the still unsolved Anthrax murders).
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2002
June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb exploded outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.

2003
May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers killed 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.

2004
May 29–31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including one American.

June 11–19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks.

Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.

2005
Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: Suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility.

2006
Sept. 13, Damascus, Syria: an attack by four gunman on the American embassy was foiled.

2007
Jan. 12, Athens, Greece: the U.S. embassy was fired on by an anti-tank missile causing damage but no injuries.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001454.html

]]> By: Dave C http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4120997 Dave C Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:31:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4120997 <em>No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in 6 years. Yes, I feel safer. Comment by TCDon — October 16, 2007 @ 11:28 am</em> Just a little Anthrax between friends eh? No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in 6 years. Yes, I feel safer.

Comment by TCDon — October 16, 2007 @ 11:28 am

Just a little Anthrax between friends eh?

]]> By: Dave C http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4120975 Dave C Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:19:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4120975 The Republican spin machine will put it differently... you may not be safer as a result of the Iraq war, but you're safer then you would have been if the Iraq war had not happened. Much like the spin on the price of oil (a la Greenspan)... you went to Iraq to keep the price of oil low... sure it's $86 now but it would have been $130 if you had not attacked Iraq. You're not thinking with a post-9/11 mindset. Everything is better because of the Iraq war then it would have been without the Iraq war. And it's exponential. Once Iran is attacked terrorism will increase a ton and the price of oil will double or triple... but they'll still be lower then the would have been had you not attacked Iran. Fun stuff eh? The Republican spin machine will put it differently… you may not be safer as a result of the Iraq war, but you’re safer then you would have been if the Iraq war had not happened. Much like the spin on the price of oil (a la Greenspan)… you went to Iraq to keep the price of oil low… sure it’s $86 now but it would have been $130 if you had not attacked Iraq. You’re not thinking with a post-9/11 mindset. Everything is better because of the Iraq war then it would have been without the Iraq war. And it’s exponential. Once Iran is attacked terrorism will increase a ton and the price of oil will double or triple… but they’ll still be lower then the would have been had you not attacked Iran. Fun stuff eh?

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4120970 Chocolate Jesus Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:16:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4120970 anybody know whether we should bomb these kids now or wait till they hit puberty then bomb them? I guess anytime AFTER birth is ok, right Bigfoot? http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/09/armed-children-.html anybody know whether we should bomb these kids now or wait till they hit puberty then bomb them? I guess anytime AFTER birth is ok, right Bigfoot?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/09/armed-children-.html

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4120967 Chocolate Jesus Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:14:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4120967 but in my "Bigfoot's Unabridged Dictionary" it says "safer" means "in a bigger safe"...and I think america is a bigger safe than we were before 9-11, ergo we must be "safer" but in my “Bigfoot’s Unabridged Dictionary” it says “safer” means “in a bigger safe”…and I think america is a bigger safe than we were before 9-11, ergo we must be “safer”

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4120961 Leftside Annie Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:09:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4120961 Uh-oh!! His Kool-aid IV must have come unhooked!! NEW IV --- STAT!! Uh-oh!! His Kool-aid IV must have come unhooked!!

NEW IV — STAT!!

]]> By: Art http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4120960 Art Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:08:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4120960 Tactically - no Strategically - maybe. Do the terrorists know the difference? Do we? Tactically – no
Strategically – maybe.

Do the terrorists know the difference?

Do we?

]]> By: Doofus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4120945 Doofus Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:59:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4120945 Scott Redd will be revising that statement by lunchtime. He was obviously taken out of context. What he meant to say was "yes yes yes!! We're all safer from everything!!", but somehow that got lost in editing. Or something. Or else Mr. Redd will be unemployed by Monday. Scott Redd will be revising that statement by lunchtime. He was obviously taken out of context. What he meant to say was “yes yes yes!! We’re all safer from everything!!”, but somehow that got lost in editing. Or something.

Or else Mr. Redd will be unemployed by Monday.

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4120935 missmolly Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:50:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/us-not-%e2%80%98tactically%e2%80%99-safer-as-a-result-of-iraq-war/#comment-4120935 ...but...but...but...aren't we fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here? Haven't we been told that our country will be safe as long we we are waging war in Iraq? Haven't we been told that war is peace? …but…but…but…aren’t we fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here? Haven’t we been told that our country will be safe as long we we are waging war in Iraq? Haven’t we been told that war is peace?

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