Actually, the mechanism for vetoing Bush is EMPEACHMENT . . . unfortunately, the so-called Democratic leadership doesn’t recognize its constituents’ relevance.

What do we have to do Pelosi? We elected you all . . . you know what we want . . . isn’t that a sufficiently relevant mandate for our representatives to fight for?

Bush Jr. hates peace, genetics, and healthy children.

Muckdog are were you as concerned about dealing with fraud in iraq before we funded the “surge”?

Yours isnt already? Mine is, except they have better magazines in the doctors lobby. Oh, and the phramacutical reps dont get to cut in line at the DMV..

“I am only relevant when I am in the way” -that’s the new motto of his administration.

Comment by muckdog — October 17, 2007 @ 7:44 pm

1998? Oh, that is classic.

I’ve got an update for you, dude. In 2001, months before 9/11, both Powell and Rice said that Iraq had been contained, they were not threat to their neighbors, they were not a threat to the U.S., the sanctions were working, and while Saddam wanted to restart his WMD program, he did not have the capability. Powell declared the sanctions a success, and even said that they were being adjusted so that they would remain effective.

Now what was it you were saying about 1998?

Remind us, Muckey, the last time another country attacked us which resulted in us declaring war on that country.

Oh, and I’ll give you your lie.

Don Rumsfeld, 2003: “We know where the WMDs are.”

Don Rumsfeld, 2006: “I didn’t say that. I said we knew where the SUSPECTED sites were.”

Not only that, if we knew where the WMDs were, why didn’t the administration direct the weapons inspectors to those sites? Oh, that’s right. Bush had a date with destiny in the form of invading a country that was of no threat to us. The inspectors would have ruined his plans.

Cheers.

Comment by Picklee — October 17, 2007 @ 9:25 pm

What are you, masochistic? I’d have more fun banging my head against a wall.

But what you’re failing to factor in is that you don’t have to pay for medical costs OUT OF YOUR POCKET. You make it sound like we weill have to pay taxes AND medical bills; no. Just taxes. And as we’ve discussed, the government overhead is lower than private anyway.

We are all in this together and just believe that there are different ways of getting there.

Cheers.

There may, yet, be hope for you. A great discourse, hope to hear from you more.

Cheers.

Clinton only raised taxes on singles with $150,000 per year or more and the largest corporations. He took us from record deficits to record surpluses.

When I tell French people that some Americans are working for $6 per hour and zero benefits—they think I cannot possibly know what I am talking about.

Recently I saw a study of the cities around the world with the highest standard of living. Of the top 36 cities, only 2 came from US: #28 Honolulu and #29 San Francisco (Holy left-wingers, Batman). All the others came from countries most definitely to the left of the US, even when they have a “conservative” leader.

Caught him/her. Tax rates are higher elsewhere. Try a google search.

Do you know how to use Google, RHF? Are you waiting for a government program to do your Google searches for you?

I don’t want to call you stupid, RHF. I don’t know if your parents had to raise you as a mentally handicapped child or if you had to go to a public school and are just a little behind. Hard to tell. But I wish you well.

LOL. Not a great track record there, my friends.

But the costs go up. If there are 40 million more people making dr appointments, getting treatment for asthma, diabetes, blood pressure, etc etc etc.

So lets assume Consumer Reports knows health care like they know washing machines, and pretend we save $250B in admin, but how much do we spend in doctors fees, buildings (accommodations for more patients), equipment, prescriptions…

Quick math shows that $250B in savings divided by 40 million in new patients leave $6250 per patient per year before the savings runs dry.

Not a big margin of savings, I’d bet. Heck, bet ya a large soda on that.